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From: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com (mobility-digest)
To: mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com
Subject: mobility-digest V2 #59
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mobility-digest Wednesday, July 28 1999 Volume 02 : Number 059
RE: (mobility) My Top 10 albums of the 90s..
(mobility) Worst "Good" Bands of The 90's
(mobility) Re:thousand V2 #58
RE: (mobility) Worst "Good" Bands of The 90's
(mobility) go demixes
Re: (mobility) Top ten of the 90s
Re: (mobility) t h o u s a n d
Re: (mobility) Moby Nile
(mobility) SPIN Magazine
RE: (mobility) Worst "Good" Bands of The 90's
Re: (mobility) Top ten of the 90s
RE: (mobility) Top ten of the 90s
Re: (mobility) Top ten of the 90s
(mobility) charts!!!!/esenchul
(mobility) amp
(mobility) amp
(mobility) nonrelated
Re: (mobility) Spin's top 90 of the 90's
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:11:00 -0400
From: jgmagnus@bkb.com
Subject: RE: (mobility) My Top 10 albums of the 90s..
I hate to be so picky but ...
Are we doing the best albums EVER? or JUST the 90s?
This is important because there are some AWESOME albums that came out in
the 80's that I might include such as:
- - Jane's Addiction: NOthing's Shocking
- - Stone Roses: self tittled
and some others but I thought this specific request was for just 90s
albums. It doesn't really matter I guess.
- Jayson
- -----Original Message-----
From: mobility@lists.xmission.com at INTERNET
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 12:24 PM
To: mobility@lists.xmission.com at INTERNET
Subject: (mobility) My Top 10 albums of the 90s..
How about we just say top 10 (or so) albums period!...and I will add Moby
because he is important. i have thought about this list for a few days now
so here it is.
Mind you these are in no particular order...they are just the top of my
list...
SISTERS OF MERCY/FIRST LAST AND ALWAYS
followed closely by "some girls wander...", nothing like smooth baselines,
early syth, and aldrich's voice...the rhythmic din of the sister's baselines
and tone..., there are very very few bands I will see live now a days but
the sisters are one of them.
MINISTRY/THE MIND IS A TERRIBLE THING TO TASTE
great songs, ground breaking ways, this album is supplemented by ministry's
live album..."In case you didn't feel like showing up..." for the real raw
emotion in the songs. "thieves" alone is an anthem for industrial music.
MOBY/MOVE
The first moby album I bought and still my favorite, not only does it have
those wonderful ambient songs it has the best version of the best moby
track"all that i need is to be loved", but honestly it is hard to pick just
one moby album/single/song.
JANE'S ADDICTION/NOTHINGS SHOCKING
I am a heavy electronic music fan but jane's is amazing and this album, even
though most of the material was written years before it was recorded
captures the band at their best, if you own one jane's record this is it,
but any of them you can't go wrong with, "Kettle wistle" is a good one for
an overview of the band.
EARTHCRISIS/FIRESTORM
The hardest most militant vegan straightedge hardcore record ever made and
still the best, even though the straightedge hardcore scene is nothing like
it was in it's hayday (1991-early 1995) this record still holds true. Plus I
am from syracuse so I am a bit biased.
SKINNY PUPPY/TOO DARK PARK
Ok, I know alot of puppy fans think this record is a bit weak compared to
their earlier stuff but I think it is the best, such industrial strength and
dark solid emotions in the songs.
NINE INCH NAILS/PRETTY HATE MACHINE
I have always had a love/hate relationship with NIN...between the chessy
teeny bopping "hate your parents/my life is pain " cliches trent seems to
dig, to the pure style and layers of some of the more avant garde NIN
tracks. "pretty hate machine' was i think one of the first industrial(ish)
records that brought industrial and really electronic music into the
mainstream. Broken and fixed are also good to see the progression of NIN,
and the downward spiral is the only true industrial/alternative/pop/top 40
record of an value, the record is worth itself if only for the track(s) "a
warm place" and "hurt", the new stuff "the day the world went away" is just
amazing and I can not wait for "the fragile" to come out. All in all if you
look past the sideshow and fashion victims of NIN you see musical perfection
(at times). NIN is the only other band i seriously collect besides moby.
MINOR THREAT/FUGAZI and YOUTH OF TODAY/SHELTER
all four of those bands are amazing in their own rights, but the period of
minor threat's transition into fugazi and vis-versa for youth of today into
shelter are some great early hardcore. Minor threat's salad days and
fugazi's song number one 7inches are amazing, Youth of today's last single
into Shelter's "quest for certianty"...oh my god!
THE CURE/DISINTEGRATION
oh my! big long deep symphonic masterpieces. I am not a huge cure fan but
this record is amazing and breathtaking.
BEASTIE BOYS/LICENSED TO ILL
we all know it, we all love it and I bet we all can sing/rap (whatever) at
least one track from this album. Phat baselines, oldskool feel and the
groundwork the the b-boy's musical journeys.
THE PRODIGY/EXPERIENCE
I know many consider "music for a jilted generation" the quintesential
prodigy album but i always have leaned towards this one. It feels better to
me and is probably has one of the best song orders of any album.
PORTISHEAD/LIVE IN NYC
I like all of this bands music for the most part, but this record combines
so many elements into such a great whole.
TRICKY/PRE-MILLENNIUM TENSION
I like this album so much for it's complexity it is hard to talk about it.
"christiansands" is am amazing track
VELVET UNDERGROUND & NICO (the one with Warhol's banana on it)
This album is from the late 60s, but sounds like it was recorded (musically)
from last year...point is it always sounds current. EVERY
electronic/goth/pop/rock band owes it's roots to this record and band. They
really set the stage for modern underground music. They did for
"alternative" what the beatles did for pop/mainstream.
Sorry to ramble on so long but I had to expand my reasons.
- ---
Chris Stepanek - Designer - Nicholson | NY
cstepanek@nny.com - ICQ# 25163388
- ---
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:00:42 -0700
From: michael.demattei@milliman.com
Subject: (mobility) Worst "Good" Bands of The 90's
In no order:
Bush
Smashing Pumpkins (after Gish)
MxPx/NoFX and all the other pop-punk bands
Alice In Chains
Pearl Jam
Jewel
No Limit/Bad Boy stuff
Slow art rock (Tortoise, et al)
I hope they all have Y2K problems and disappear!
Thank god for the likes of Moby, Stereolab,=20=
PSB, Julian Cope, Sepultura,=20=
Sub Pop, and Am Rep=2E
Deemo
np: Robyn Hitchcock - Jewels For Sophia
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 21:04:33 +0300 (EET DST)
From: Heidi Gronman <heidig@uiah.fi>
Subject: (mobility) Re:thousand V2 #58
> From: Bjorkdoll <slurb@scn.org>
> Subject: (mobility) t h o u s a n d
> Okay, I was listening to "Rare" today and 'Thousand' came on and I got to
> thinking, did Moby write 'Thousand' because he was honestly inspired and
> had a vision to write this song exactly as it was or do you think he just
> had an urge to do sort of a "gimmick" type song with a hook, what with the
> guiness record for fastest song and all?
this is sigmund freud, hi! i guess moby made thousand with amusement
of 'why not?' but as uncoscious levels of mind it also pretty nicely shows
some sort of a flexibility or diversity or what fuck is he having in his
mind anyway, that there's not much point to value things. no wrong nor
right speeds, just different types of moving.
or something. i love it.
deine sauerkraut, heidi
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:10:32 -0400
From: "Novotny, Joe" <Joe.Novotny@mail.house.gov>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Worst "Good" Bands of The 90's
Siamese Dream by Smashing Pumpkins was one of the best albums of the 1990's,
and I thought that "Ten" by Pearl Jam was actually a great debut. The rest
of their stuff never caught me. Alice in Chains had exactly 5 good songs
(Would, Got Me Wrong, Rooster, Them Bones, Over Now). Jewel (or Spewel as I
call her) really does suck. So does Limp Bizkit, Korn, etc. HELLO?? Ever
hear of Helmet or Faith No More? They did that stuff better. And the
Beasties mix rock and rap better than anyone. And what's more is that they
actually grew up and got a brain instead of making sexist and homophobic
remarks. Kudos to them.
As far as most underrated band: by far it is Catherine Wheel. Pick up any of
their 5 LP's, not to mention all the b-sides that never made it onto the
"Like Cats and Dogs" LP and you've got yourself one of the best rock bands
ever. If you don't have "Chrome", go buy it. It is AMAZING.
Joe
- -----Original Message-----
From: michael.demattei@milliman.com
[mailto:michael.demattei@milliman.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 2:01 PM
To: mobility@xmission.com
Subject: (mobility) Worst "Good" Bands of The 90's
In no order:
Bush
Smashing Pumpkins (after Gish)
MxPx/NoFX and all the other pop-punk bands
Alice In Chains
Pearl Jam
Jewel
No Limit/Bad Boy stuff
Slow art rock (Tortoise, et al)
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 21:17:27 +0300
From: Samu Heinonen <samuhei@dlc.fi>
Subject: (mobility) go demixes
somebody is trying to sell me go - demixes (outer rhythm) for about 9$ in
dollars. is it worth it?
-Samu Heinonen-
-samuhei@dlc.fi-
http://www.saunalahti.fi/~samuhei/
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:21:09 MST
From: "Derek ~" <mechanical_roach@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Top ten of the 90s
doesn't that suck though that the movie is coming out in something like 2001
or 2002? man such a long wait
yeah the whole final fantasy series kicks ass!
>i so enjoy and love final fantasy games.
>i would like to let everyone know that there is a final fantasy film coming
>out in a few years
>
>thank you for hearing me, john
>
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:22:52 MST
From: "Derek ~" <mechanical_roach@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: (mobility) t h o u s a n d
so the name of the fastest song is 'thousand'? cool can you tell me where to
get that? i want to hear it! thanks
>On Wed, 28 Jul 1999, alive in the fields wrote:
> > ps. I'm going to see Moby in detroit on aug. 31st with a bunch of
>closet
> > Moby fans. Just look for the group of late teens trying to dance fast
>enough
> > when Moby breaks out Thousand. At least I hope he breaks out Thousand.
>What
> > a challenging song to dance to. I have see nary a man try, and he who I
>did
> > see attempt almost died trying to wiggle it more than just a little bit
>to
> > the ludicrous number of beats per minute. Yeah. Rock.
>
>Speaking of 'Thousand'; I have a query about that song and was wondering
>if maybe some of you more "studied" fans of Moby could answer.
>
>Okay, I was listening to "Rare" today and 'Thousand' came on and I got to
>thinking, did Moby write 'Thousand' because he was honestly inspired and
>had a vision to write this song exactly as it was or do you think he just
>had an urge to do sort of a "gimmick" type song with a hook, what with the
>guiness record for fastest song and all?
>
>What do you think?
>
>(i hope that made sense....it's 2:30 in the morning *hehe*)
>Sarah
>"...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..."
>http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html
>
>:::::::::::::::::::::::::::rescue me::::::::::
>::::::::::::::::from levelheadedness::::::::::
>::::::::::and the unnecessary luxury::::::::::
>:::::::::::::::::::::::of being calm::::::::::
>
>
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:28:07 MST
From: "Derek ~" <mechanical_roach@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby Nile
u know ive heard the same thing. i wish moby would play somewhere else so
then i could go see him play!
what kind of music do u play? i'm assuming techno.
>Niles is just not the best venue, in Tempe I played there last week and it
>is semi small, sound
>depends on what they bring in but it tends to bounce off the walls alot,
>but
>if place is packed the people will stop that.
>Not a good place to watch an artist.
>Darryl Cottier
>
>- -----Original Message-----
>From: mobility@lists.xmission.com at INTERNET
>Sent: Monday, July 26, 1999 10:55 PM
>To: <mobility@lists.xmission.com> at INTERNET
>Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby in Arizona!
>
>
>why.. what's wrong with the niles theatre? i live in tucson, so i don't
>know much about the venues in tucson.
>
>plov
>-
> >
>
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:31:50 -0700
From: michael.demattei@milliman.com
Subject: (mobility) SPIN Magazine
Did anyone get a magazine with this month's issue??
Mine just seems to be filled with ads!
Deemo
np: still Robyn Hitchcock
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:41:53 MST
From: "Derek ~" <mechanical_roach@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Worst "Good" Bands of The 90's
i would have to agree that siamese dream is the pumpkins best cd. that disc
totally rocks. it was the first one i got and is still my favorite. their
new one, adore, man that one i didn't like at all. bush i think sucks even
though they have only 3 good songs (glycerine, machinehead and the mouth
remix). i don't know why so many people like them. they really aren't that
great. pearl jam is ok they have some decent stuff
i also agree that korn sucks. they're stuff is so damn repetitive. same
thing in everysong. they've finally sold out so we probably won't hear much
more of their stuff for a while, or i hope anyway.
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:49:18 -0400
From: david chamberlain <dchamber@chuma.cas.usf.edu>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Top ten of the 90s
Novotny, Joe wrote:
>
> The La's - The La's
who's the band that recently did a cover of "there she goes?"
dave
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:47:13 -0400
From: "Novotny, Joe" <Joe.Novotny@mail.house.gov>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Top ten of the 90s
The Boo Radleys did one in 1993.
- -----Original Message-----
From: david chamberlain [mailto:dchamber@chuma.cas.usf.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 2:49 PM
To: mobility@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: (mobility) Top ten of the 90s
Novotny, Joe wrote:
>
> The La's - The La's
who's the band that recently did a cover of "there she goes?"
dave
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 19:57:30 +0100
From: Justin Cade <justin.cade@virgin.net>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Top ten of the 90s
>
> who's the band that recently did a cover of "there she goes?"
>
> dave
sixpence none the richer i believe
Justin
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 12:11:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Simpson <techno_gpig@yahoo.com>
Subject: (mobility) charts!!!!/esenchul
BODYROCK IS 34 ON MODERN ROCK CHARTS!!!!!
50 ON DANCE CLUB PLAY!!!
28 ON DANCE SALES!!!!!
PLAY IS 196 ON ALBUM CHARTS!!!
10 ON HEATSEEKERS!!!!1
BUG YR LOCAL RADIO STATION TO PLAY MOBY!!!!!!!!
10en random essential albums of the 90ineties' (ill
put a REAL list 2wogether l8ighter)
MOBY:Play, EIW, AR/LI
Dr. Octagon (glad this made it to the SPIN list! this
album rules!!!!)
ATR:Burn Berlin Burn
TMBG:(oh wait thats from the 80'ighties)
Jimi Hendrix:Woodstock (reissued in 90ineties' anyway)
Nirvana:Nevermind (hate to admit it, but this is a
brilliant album and i have to include it)
In Utero (on a lesser scale)
Jilted Gen (this album rules)
FIRST CHEMICAL BROS
Daft Punk
a shitload more who cares
bye!
===
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WHAT WOULD CHESTER DO??????
SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON!
ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT!
feedback@mtv.com
>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 12:46:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Simpson <techno_gpig@yahoo.com>
Subject: (mobility) amp
yes folks AMP will play HONEY next week.... why wont
they show BODYROCK oh well at least they play MOBY we
still dont have our sox back!!!!
also playing: Laurent Garnier (i no u luv that
video!!!) Schneider TM (good thing their paying
atention to this German stuff, sum ov it is good) and
more! bye!
===
W W C D
WHAT WOULD CHESTER DO??????
SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON!
ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT!
feedback@mtv.com
>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 12:47:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Simpson <techno_gpig@yahoo.com>
Subject: (mobility) amp
yes folks AMP will play HONEY next week.... why wont
they show BODYROCK oh well at least they play MOBY we
still dont have our sox back!!!!
also playing: Laurent Garnier (i no u luv that
video!!!) Schneider TM (good thing their paying
atention to this German stuff, sum ov it is good) and
more! bye!
===
W W C D
WHAT WOULD CHESTER DO??????
SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON!
ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT!
feedback@mtv.com
>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 12:54:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Simpson <techno_gpig@yahoo.com>
Subject: (mobility) nonrelated
just in case any1ne cares i saw the video music awards
nominees... all crap, except UNKLE was nominated for
best BREAKTHRU award!!!!!! thats cool but what about
Chems? that isnt too new is it??? that otta win
sumthin!
It would rock if SQUAREPUSHER was nominated but hes
too non0MTV so thats not really a surprise....
there however was a music awards show that gave SQPSH
the best video of the year AND the best alternative,
and maybe another 1ne... that rox tho, "COME ON MY
SeLECTOR" was BY FAR best vid of the year...
bye suckers
===
W W C D
WHAT WOULD CHESTER DO??????
SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON!
ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT!
feedback@mtv.com
>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:25:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: BRIAN HOVEY <bhoveyredfive@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Spin's top 90 of the 90's
- --- BRIAN HOVEY <bhoveyredfive@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> --- TronicaFan@aol.com wrote:
> > Hey there!
> > So "Play" is considered by Spin magazine to be one
> > of the pinacle releases of
> > the last 10 years. Therefore, I put this question
> > to anyone who wishes to
> > answer. Aside from the releases by Moby, what
> would
> > be in your top 10?
> >
> > -Riley
>
> 1)Vast
> 2)The The-empty
> 3)Tribe called Quest- Midnight maurader
> 4)Cirrus-1999
> 5)Cowboy Junkies- Trinity Sessions
>
> Ill finish later.
> Bri
>6)BT- IMA
7) Paul van Dyke- 45 RPM
8) NIN- The Fragile
9)Marillion-misplaced childhood
10)Orbital-orbital
But there are so many more
like
the blue man group
Dogzilla
Blue Oyster Cult- Imangios
anything by Depece Mode
I mean it could go on forever
Bri
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