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Re: (mobility) moby - conan --
Re: (mobility) MOBY REMIXERS
RE: (mobility) ARP - from Bodyrock
Re: (mobility) Damian  re: discography w/ Bodyrock
RE: (mobility) ARP - from Bodyrock
Re: (mobility) Moby on conan(tape)
(mobility) A Kerouac'ish rant (Bodyrock, Conan and the media)
RE: (mobility) moby - conan --
(mobility) chartz
Re: (mobility) Moby on conan(tape)
Re: (mobility) moby - conan --
RE: (mobility) Moby on conan (tape)
Re: (mobility) moby - conan --
RE: (mobility) moby - conan --
Re: (mobility) BODYROCK ON CONAN
Re: (mobility) Moby on conan(tape)
(mobility) intro
Re: (mobility) MOBY REMIXERS

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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 07:23:26 -0500
From: "Brad Caviness" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby - conan --

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Eric M. Goldberg
> anyone know who the particular bandmembers were?
> and i think thats the first time ive seen moby have two
> women in the band?
>
That's what I thought too, and then I got to looking, and I'm not so sure
the keyboard player was a girl.

> and at the end Moby looked to have talked with Conan as the show was
rolling
> credits. hmmm what could they have been talking about?
>
I'm fairly certain it wasn't, "Hey, may I have a piece of Tony Randall's
chicken?"

The contingent of Moby fans in the audience rocked, though. You know that
had to make him feel good. I wonder if, since Conan was a "hometown" show
for Moby, if he hung out with them after the gig? Maybe he invited them all
back to his place to party afterwards! Rock!!

BSC

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 15:01:36 +0200
From: but not _the_ frankz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) MOBY REMIXERS

Bart van Eijck wrote:
>> 5- Junior Vasquez (remixed Into The Blue)
>
> I must admit that these 2 lists probably say more about my musical
> taste than the remixer's quality, so no flaming please...
>
> Bart
> np: Moby - James Bond Theme (Dub Pistols Remix)

EVERYBODY WROTE!
yeah, it's a mess here i know, the only
thing on order here is my harddisk,
but i KNEW i had that jrvasquez mix somewhere,
well now that i'm packing and moving everything, i found it back,
in my memory! [now playing]
I thiink the beat is good, and the piano too, i like
that,
maybe the vocals a bit too many...
...i dont know i'm not a musician,
but i think the vocals into the blue SO beautiful,
that the perfect mix should have the text only ONCE,
but then stretched out over the whole mix...
can anybody picture that?

have a great day
n.b. and don't forget yo' coat, when you go outside

question: how can i be a S&O fan, when i've never even seen it?
kz
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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:40:00 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: (mobility) ARP - from Bodyrock

     What mixes of Voodoo Child?? All I have is the DOG HEAVEN remixes.

     - Jayson

- -----Original Message-----

Well, the coolest mixes of "Voodoo Child" have Slight Return almost in it's
entirety (lacks some repeats) inside of it, during a long breakdown.
Definately in my top 5 - it's either called the "contracted" or "expanded"
mix. I love it when Moby integrates things - and I'll bet there's some
interesting experiments sitting in Moby's studio that are song combinations.

Best non Moby remix - Westbam, Feeling So Real
Worst nM remix - Revolver (Psychotic VE-GUN Mix) Phillip Steir?

- -Steve

>From: [e-mail]
>Yes! I believe I mean "Every One of My Problems". Why is this track
>connected to "ARP"?? Kinda weird huh? And it cuts out kind of >abruptly.


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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:44:25 +0200
From: "Bart van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Damian  re: discography w/ Bodyrock

Damian wrote:
>Actually, Daniel Cerman maintains the spectacular discography and yes
>it's out of date ...BUT... you can find the info you need under the
>"reviews" section until the discography as a whole is updated.


Hey Jayson (and others) if you want an updated discography NOW, mail
me privately at [e-mail] and I'll mail you the updated version back.
It includes the UK FSR promo CD and all the latest singles...
It doesn't have the remix section, soundtracks and the Trophy section and it
also doesn't have PLAY in it... (remix section is still under
construction..)

Could anybody give me the catalog numbers of the US Play CD and the
US Play promo CD? Then I can also include Play.

Bart
np: The Other Two - Moving On (Waterfront Mix) (by Moby)

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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 08:05:34 PDT
From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) ARP - from Bodyrock

I'm talking about the song "Voodoo Child", which there are edited mixes of
on Rare and Early Underground. The mixes I referred to are only on the vinyl
releases, unfortunately. Get them if you can!!!

- -Steve

>From: [e-mail]
>
>What mixes of Voodoo Child?? All I have is the DOG HEAVEN remixes.
>      - Jayson
>
>-----Original Message-----
>
>Well, the coolest mixes of "Voodoo Child" have Slight Return almost >in
>it's entirety...... (edited)
>-Steve


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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:29:30 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby on conan(tape)

i got the whole show on tape. the performance was kick ass imo, and the dj
did have a cool shirt on. i do wish he would have done another song, maybe
why does my heart feel so bad? or maybe run on, or even southside. anyone
know that if he is going to have a live drummer for alll his shows like he
did for this appearence?
andrew

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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:19:25 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Chris Stepanek)
Subject: (mobility) A Kerouac'ish rant (Bodyrock, Conan and the media)

Well well...
Here I sit (in Soho, NYC) listening to ETIW, the first time I have listened
to it in about 16 months or so (honestly, it was never a favorite album of
mine by Moby)...but for some reason happy hardcore really appeals to me
right now (today)... I have been on a huge Moby kick lately and have been
wearing grooves into my animal rights CD and other MP3s of Mr. Hall's.

Ahhh..."All that I need is to be loved" just came one... (still my favorite
Moby track of all time. "ALL...THAT...I....NEED...." , oh and the speed
version of it on ETIW is just so wonderful.

Anyway...

"Play" in my opinion is Moby's strongest, most rounded work to date.  It
isn't the emotional whole that AR is, or the celebration that ETIW is but it
is a solid and deep exploration of a few themes I think (emotional,
political and social). All in all it is a very deep rich album.

However...

Immediately upon listening to "Play" for the first time I found one specific
track I just could not stand nor thought it had a place on the album.
"Bodyrock"!

But...

I bought the "Bodyrock" single a few weeks ago and I must say the song is
growing on me. But then I saw Moby perform it on Conan last night and it all
made sense why it is where it is on the album. Seeing it done live I think i
get it now.  I do think it would have been so much cooler if Moby performed
"Southside" or "My Weakness" (but is late night TV ready for a small bald
white guy and a bunch of synths...even Conan (read NBC) has his limits as to
what a musical guest should be on a late night TV show). At least one did
not need to be insulted by another cookie cutter singer (Leno with Tatyana
Ali) singing the same disposable blah blah blah pop sing. I applaud Conan
for that. I would love for him to drop Tony Randall (how many times do we
need to see Tony do that same old schtick with Conan and Andy) and have Moby
talk, an actual interesting guest with ideas and things to say (I am asking
to much, this is network TV...interesting and provacative is not them..I
mean look at the SICK! coverage of the Kennedy deaths over the past few
days, can you say VULTURES! I even heard one of the talking heads saying
something about the media and how annoying it must be and hard on the
families as the idiot was standing in the middle of the road infront of the
Kennedy home blabbering, let them mourn in peace, it is a private matter,
not a public one)...Moby would have been a very interesting guest to hear
talk, and of them all Conan I think has to most non mainstream guests time
to time.

Anyway back to the music...

Bodyrock fits in the album for me now, I also think it is a strong single
and marketed right (can you say james bond theme..hahahahah!) it can bring
Moby's music really into the mainstream. it already is, but it is rather
blank faced.

While bodyrock isn't on my all time top Moby list it isn't at my bottom
anymore...it is just a simple happy song. Which brings me to why I am
listening to ETIW now.

Happy happy joy joy....


PS= A DJ (Evil Ninja) mix album of Play would be DIVINE, one like the 2 disc
mix of ETIW...oh my.


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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:26:11 -0400
From: "Eric M. Goldberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) moby - conan --

> When they first started playing Bodyrock, I was wondering what Moby
> would do with the mic that was in front of him.  It was great when he

me too, but was he really singing with it? i couldnt really hear his
voice over the actual sample.
I dont know what the keyboardist was really doing either, i thought she/he?
was doing the string part, but it didnt look right.

whatever though i was just happy to see him on the show.

> And why did he lean over to talk?  Too shy?  Was Conan's band too loud?

thats something all the guests at the end always do really.  The band is
too loud, along with the clapping of the audience.
It looked like Moby wanted to initiate the conversation, but Conan wasnt
looking at first, but then Conan finally looked :)
I wonder if Moby was nervous.
Was this his actual first late night performance?

maybe letterman next?


eric

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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:19:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) chartz

hey guess what? PLAY increased in sales last week! its
back in the top 10 on the heatseakers chart!!!


my sister broke my slinky i am pissed!!!

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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:19:52 -0500 (CDT)
From: Chris Bourke <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby on conan(tape)

> did anyone happen to tape moby on conan? i tried to stay up but i just
> couldn't do it knowing i would have to get up at 5:30 the next
> morning..err
> if anyone taped it or knows if they even syndicate shit like this,
> please lemme know!
>
> Thanks,
> -Dan
>

Guess what?  My affiliate decided to shut down for some upgrades or
somenthing and not carry conan last night.  Fuckers; anyway, I would
really like to see it vid caped and put on the net I can do it if someone
has the tape.  BTW it is not syndicated, it is a network tv show, NBC
only.  They used to play classic conan shows on cnbc but not anymore.

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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:29:26 -0400
From: david chamberlain <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby - conan --

It looked to me like pretty much all of it was on tape, Moby was just
playing shaft guitar over the main guitar riff which was on tape, the
DJ  was the onyl one who seemed to be doing anything, although I thought
he was overdoing the scratching.  The drummer was live but there were
obvious fills that were on tape(you could tell by the difference in
sound between the live and the tape.  I only saw one woman and she
wasn't playing anything to my knowledge, I'dhave to look at the tape
again.  And if moby was singing along his mic was off.  He was lip
synching more likely and not doing that great a job at it.  I had a
great time seeing the performance, but i wasn't satisfied with the
concept.  But i guess the point is to play it as close to the album as
possible.  which means DAT.

dave


Eric M. Goldberg wrote:
>
> > When they first started playing Bodyrock, I was wondering what Moby
> > would do with the mic that was in front of him.  It was great when he
>
> me too, but was he really singing with it? i couldnt really hear his
> voice over the actual sample.
> I dont know what the keyboardist was really doing either, i thought she/he?
> was doing the string part, but it didnt look right.
>

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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:19:00 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby on conan (tape)

     Can I borrow that tape? I missed the show

     - Jayson

- -----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail] at INTERNET
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 1999 11:29 AM
To: [e-mail] at INTERNET
Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby on conan(tape)


i got the whole show on tape. the performance was kick ass imo, and the dj
did have a cool shirt on. i do wish he would have done another song, maybe
why does my heart feel so bad? or maybe run on, or even southside. anyone
know that if he is going to have a live drummer for alll his shows like he
did for this appearence?
andrew

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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:42:11 PDT
From: "Casey Pentz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby - conan --

     I agree.  I was dissapointed with the performance.  Moby was lipping
the song.  I don't think the keyboard player was even playing.
I hope the instruments are mostly live when I see him this Monday at the
Chameleon in Lancaster, (also Wed. in Philly).
- - Casey

>From: david chamberlain <[e-mail]>
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: Re: (mobility) moby - conan --
>Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:29:26 -0400
>
I had a great time seeing the performance, but i wasn't satisfied with the
concept.  But i guess the point is to play it as close to the album as
possible.  which means DAT.
>
>dave
>
>

> >
>


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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:53:00 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: (mobility) moby - conan --

     ACTUALLY, I saw MOBY on VIVA VARIETY (a show on the comedy channel here in
the USA) way back when AR came out.
He was performing "Revolver". I was actually in shock because I hardly ever
watch the show (probably not on anymore)  and I was
just channel-surfing. What a nice surprise huh??

     - Jayson

- -----Original Message-----
FI wonder if Moby was nervous.
Was this his actual first late night performance?

maybe letterman next?


eric

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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:28:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: BRIAN HOVEY <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) BODYROCK ON CONAN

- -Now on to Moby, we are going to see his this sunday,
and I know that he will be great, BUT what I want to
know is WHY  WHY WHY did he do a Millie Vanille on
Conan????
He Totaly Lipsynced the song, if any one would like to
debate this I have it on video and it is pretty
evedent.
Thats it I guess.
Bri
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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:29:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: BRIAN HOVEY <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby on conan(tape)

I have a very good copy of it and can edit it for you
if ya want.

Bri

- --- Daniel Blackwell <[e-mail]> wrote:
> did anyone happen to tape moby on conan? i tried to
> stay up but i just
> couldn't do it knowing i would have to get up at
> 5:30 the next
> morning..err
> if anyone taped it or knows if they even syndicate
> shit like this,
> please lemme know!
>
> Thanks,
> -Dan
>
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:28:22 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) intro

rejoining list after 1 1/2 year hiatus...
*  Name: Tony
*  Age: 20
*  Moby collection: 56 cd's, 1  7" single (i'm sure nobody wants a list)
*  first heard/how much of a fan: first heard Electricity on the Motion
Factory compilation.. bought EIW in april 95, immediately in love, now
completely obsessed
*  Other artists: aphex twin, fsol, built to spill, pedro the lion, sloan,
mineral, damien jurado, michael jackson, joy electric, neutral milk hotel,
kraftwerk, sinead o'connor, etc...
 going to the show at the metro in chicago aug 25.. seen moby twice, amazing
amazing...

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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:03:22 GMT
From: "Keith Collantine" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) MOBY REMIXERS

Okay... my top 5s are:

Best 5 Moby Remixers:
1. The Crystal Method (for Come On Baby - also their album is incredible)
2. Piet Blank & Jaspa Jones (for James Bond Theme - as "Da Bomb")
3. CJ Bolland (for James Bond Theme)
4. Olav Basoski (for Bodyrock)
=5. Plastic Angel (for Run On, German-Only release)
=5. Beatmasters (for Everytime You Touch Me)

Worst 5 Moby remixers:
1. Dani Konig (for the unimaginative & uninspired (my opinion) Run On and
Bodyrock remixes
2. Ray Keith (for the repetitive Feeling So Real remix)
3. John Blackford (US Contest winner for Everytime You Touch Me remix
competition.)
4. Danny Tenaglia (for the goes-nowhere James Bond Theme remix)
%. Rae & Christian (for the waste-of-space Bodyrock remix)

I think this conflicts heavily with an earlier one...
LatexFanClub

>From: "Bart van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>To: <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: (mobility) MOBY REMIXERS
>Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 21:34:26 +0200
>
>dj AHIMSA wrote:
> >...last night i was listening to the university station in Waterloo, of
> >which i have a show with my friend, and i heard a remix of "Run On" i
> >haven't heard, but it was so very boring, a little sample from "Run On"
>and
> >then like 5 minutes of kick drum, no pads no nothing, then the sample
>came
> >back and ended with typical Moby ambient synth, nice ended , but very
> >uncreative, who's mix is that.
>
>This probably is the Dani K÷nig remix, AND I HAPPEN TO LIKE IT!
>I've only heard bad things about it from the ones who have heard it,
>isn't there anybody besides me who also likes it?
>
> >maybe we should list our top 5 Moby remixers, and the Worst Moby
>remixers,
> >and compare with one another, there are still some i have never heard, so
>it
> >would be interesting to see what people think...
>
>
>Cool, I like these kind of lists!
>
>Best remixers:
>1- Rollo & Sister Bliss (remixed Revolver & Honey)
>2- Beatmasters (remixed Everytime You Touch Me & Into The Blue)
>3- Plastic Angel (from the German Run On 12")
>4- Jam & Spoon (remixed Go)
>5- Dani K÷nig (remixed Run On & Bodyrock)
>
>Worst remixers
>1- Jon Spencer (he tried to remix Into The Blue)
>2- Sharam Jey (remixed Honey & Run On)
>3- Crystal Method (remixed Come On Baby)
>4- Piet Blank & Jaspa Jones (James Bond Theme (Da Bomb Remix))
>5- Junior Vasquez (remixed Into The Blue)
>
>I must admit that these 2 lists probably say more about my musical
>taste than the remixer's quality, so no flaming please...
>
>Bart
>np: Moby - James Bond Theme (Dub Pistols Remix)
>
>
>


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