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- mobility-digest Sunday, July 18 1999 Volume 02 : Number 043
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- Re: (mobility) Moby on Hypeless.com
- (mobility) the mysterious Move 2x12" + Mobility 12"
- Re: (mobility) the mysterious Move 2x12" + Mobility 12"
- Re: (mobility) Moby on Hypeless.com
- Re: (mobility) Meeting Moby and other stuff
- (mobility) Moby in Future Music Magazine, July 1999
-
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 14:58:13 -0700
- From: "kelbert" <bergstrom@globalserve.net>
- Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby on Hypeless.com
-
- Anthony Gall wrote:
- > hmm, interesting message here...noticed that it contains absolutely NO
- > reference to moby...there should be a filter for these sort of things! :P
- >
-
- the exact same message showed up on the orbital list.
-
- *cough* spam *cough*
-
- well, at least it was music related... and not just useless crap. then
- again,
- i never went the url (because thats what they WANT you to do) so i can't
- really comment on what the content of the site was like.
-
- but still... it smells like spam....
-
- - -kelly
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 23:08:44 +0200
- From: "Bart van Eijck" <eijck@IAE.nl>
- Subject: (mobility) the mysterious Move 2x12" + Mobility 12"
-
- A while ago I talked about this Move 2x12" I had ordered.
- I got it today! (together with the Mobility 12" !!!)
-
- The Move 2x12" turned out to be the regular US Move 12"
- and the US promo 12" put together in the regular Move's
- sleeve. Nice, considering the fact I only paid $10 for them.
-
- The Mobility 12" sure is an obscure release!
- The record comes in a plain black sleeve and the label
- (silver) says MOBY in some 3D version of the European
- 'Go' single font. There also are track titles, a little Instinct
- logo, credits, speed (33RPM) and the cat.# EX-226.
-
- Bart
- np: Miss Jane - It's a fine day (ATB radio mix)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 17:16:45 -0400 (EDT)
- From: wext phain <cerebusluvsjaka@yahoo.com>
- Subject: Re: (mobility) the mysterious Move 2x12" + Mobility 12"
-
- HI BART(ANE EVERY ONE). ISN'T IT COOL TO PLUNK THAT
- MOBLILTY 12" DOWN AND DROP THE NEEDLE. IT'S ONE OF MY
- FAVORITES(EVEN IF ALL THE SONGS ARE AVAILABLE
- ELSEWHERE). I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR THE HEADS UP ON
- THE MYMN 12" ON EBAY. I WON! SO I WILL SOON BE ABLE TO
- HEAR THE UPRIVER MIX. I'M TOTALLY EXCITED!
-
- PEACE-CHRISTIAN
-
-
-
- - --- Bart van Eijck <eijck@IAE.nl> wrote:
- > A while ago I talked about this Move 2x12" I had
- > ordered.
- > I got it today! (together with the Mobility 12" !!!)
- >
- > The Move 2x12" turned out to be the regular US Move
- > 12"
- > and the US promo 12" put together in the regular
- > Move's
- > sleeve. Nice, considering the fact I only paid $10
- > for them.
- >
- > The Mobility 12" sure is an obscure release!
- > The record comes in a plain black sleeve and the
- > label
- > (silver) says MOBY in some 3D version of the
- > European
- > 'Go' single font. There also are track titles, a
- > little Instinct
- > logo, credits, speed (33RPM) and the cat.# EX-226.
- >
- > Bart
- > np: Miss Jane - It's a fine day (ATB radio mix)
- >
- >
- >
- >
-
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- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 23:33:08 -0400 (EDT)
- From: Mandi Maycumber <candymango@yahoo.com>
- Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby on Hypeless.com
-
- > wait a second....aren't you hyping the site right
- > now?? eh well....
- >
- > -Anthony
-
-
- LOL... That's EXACTLY what I wuz thinking...
-
- _________________________________________________________
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-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 00:59:43 EDT
- From: PuffDanny2@aol.com
- Subject: Re: (mobility) Meeting Moby and other stuff
-
- AJ, Moby is playing at the 930 club? Do you know which one and when? thanks.
- Danny
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 22:22:57 -0400
- From: "Eric M. Goldberg" <gold@netrox.net>
- Subject: (mobility) Moby in Future Music Magazine, July 1999
-
- Here's the full article from Future Music's July 1999 issue. Read on!
- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------
- Having already explored the worlds of house, techno, ambient, punk rock
- and soundtrack music, Moby is back with an album of breakbeat-soaked
- swamp blues. Martin James went to meet the man known to his mum as
- Richard Hall in his Manhattan home
-
- Richard Hall opens the door on his spacious loft conversion. Its
- situated on a the top floor of a ex-psychiatric hospital in the Soho
- district of New York. Trendy boutiques line the sidewalks once littered
- with junkies. Down in the basement is the studio where the Beastie Boys
- last recorded their last album and filmed the video for Three MCs and
- One DJ. You say its a building of some history.
-
- Not unlike one of the top floor residents, Mr. Hall, in fact. The
- slight, shaven-headed musician has delivered some of the finest rave
- tunes, punk songs, ambient epics and techno workouts of the last ten
- years. And this month sees the release of his eighth album. It's
- called Play, its creator is better known as Moby and were sitting in his
- sparsely decorated apartment-cum-studio with the sun beating down
- through the huge windows discussing life, the universe, music and the
- man's own working methods.
-
- A bit of this, a bit of that As someone not afraid to explore the
- elasticity of genre, Mobys recorded output has been nothing if not
- eclectic. Whether intentionally so on his debut album for Mute
- Everything is Wrong where he pursued a melting pot of styles with an
- almost perverse sense of mischief or as a way of recapturing the energy
- of youth as on the belligerent garage punk collection Animal Rights, he
- has always eschewed the externally imposed boundaries of style and
- genre. For Moby it's a simple act of anti-fundamentalism. For much of
- the media such shifts of direction have been viewed with suspicion.
-
- Hes therefore become the dance musician dance mags love to hate, the
- rock the rock press don't understand and the soundtracker the film world
- wont acknowledge. For the man once called the "Iggy Pop of techno",
- fitting into someone elses tight genres is simply not an option. Even
- if it would make life a little easier for the world to compartmentalise
- him.
-
- Against the grain For his latest album, New York Citys favourite
- maverick has once again defied the style police and come up with an
- album of down-temp, swamp blues thats inspired as much by indigenous
- field recordings of black American folk music as it is by hip hop. Not
- only his most commercial venture for quite some time, Play is also his
- finest album yet.
-
- This mans musical adventures, it would seem, know no bounds. Its an
- approach which points an accusatory finger at the anti-evolution purism
- of dance culture and Play provides a one-finger salute to the purists
- who have written him off since he first deserted the dancefloor a few
- years back.
-
- "Fundamentalism exists in all areas of life. Ive simply found myself
- criticized by music fundamentalists", explains Moby. "Fundamentalism
- whether its religious or with dance music or whatever, is so attractive
- to people because it provides you with a rigid, unchanging lens through
- which to see the world," he argues.
-
- "Everything is neatly compartmentalized and easily slotted. If you're a
- drum n bass fundamentalist, either it fits in your slot as acceptable or
- unacceptable. Its so clear. It has to be to because the world is
- complicated and confusing that people love belief systems that are
- reductionist. This is how they make sense of all of the ambiguity in
- the world.
-
- Compare and contrast Moby has made sense of all of the ambiguity in the
- world by trying to adapt to all of its complexities. As a result, the
- key words that crop up in Mobys conversation are tolerance and
- flexibility. Words which are borne out in his lifestyle. He is still a
- Christian, although he doesnt believe in any organized religion, and he
- still chooses to be a vegan although, as he points out on one of his
- infamous inner sleeve essays (this time from Play) "I dont judge people
- who choose to eat meat."
-
- These days Moby is indeed a far more tolerant man than the one who first
- launched his dance music career through seminal rave tracks life I Feel
- It and the Twin Peaks sampling Go. "I just figure the world is
- complicated enough," he laughs. "And to be honest, Ive been wrong so
- many times in the things Ive said. When I was younger I was a lot more
- narrow in my beliefs, in some ways I couldnt accept another view to have
- the same validity as mine. But Ive been proved to be so spectacularly,
- idiotically wrong on so many occasions that Ive come to accept that
- theres room for many views. Its all about a balance."
-
- "Its like with the millennium, he continues. "The worrying thing about
- the millennium is that its going to be followed by a world malaise
- because of the depression at nothing happening. Its like in wartime
- when people prayed for peace but once it came they found out that,
- actually peace is pretty dull.
-
- "Im not advocating war but, for example, when I first moved to New York
- I lived with three other guys. One of them ended up being a
- psychopath. I mean he was really crazy, he tried to kill us and to burn
- down the apartment. We tried so hard to get rid of him and then finally
- he left. We cleaned up the apartment and thought, Wow, life is going to
- be great now, but actually it was kind of boring.
-
- "As I said, I'm not advocating war, or living with psychopaths or the
- millennium bug or anything. I'm just saying that somewhere between war
- and peace, life is interesting. And there are a lot of different ways
- of living between war and peace. No one way is fundamentally better
- than the other.
-
- Staring me out. When Moby talks he fixes you with a captivating stare.
- Not a threatening,
- testosterone-induced stare but one, which both puts you at your ease and
- makes you feel like he's completely captivated by your conversation.
- It's the kind of skill a politician spends years learning. With Moby
- however, you always get the feeling that he is totally sincere in his
- actions.
-
- It's this sincerity that he admires in others. Especially when it comes
- to music with the man who has occasionally been known as the Little
- Idiot, Evil Ninja or even DJ Cake, giving huge props to the current Blur
- output as sounding "honest, in some way true to themselves."
-
- This honesty is something, which Moby has striven for in his music. And
- where it can be contest that both Everything is Wrong and Animal Rights
- were contrived in their execution, with Play Moby seems to have made a
- record that has no need to make any statement beyond its own music. No
- deliberate eclecticism in order to shake up the dance fascists of the
- electronic music
- purists.
-
- "I have been told that this is a wildly eclectic album," he says with a
- look of amazement, "but really I think I've tried to make something,
- which hangs together as a whole. For this record I probably made about
- 200 songs. Out of these about 40 were punk rock songs, 30 were faster
- techno-y house things and I also made about 20 straight forward pop
- songs because I have in the
- back of my mind this anonymous pop project.
-
- "I knew that I didn't want to make an album from any of these styles
- this time. After the last album, Animal Rights which was very
- aggressive I wanted this album to be more inviting. Still very personal
- and emotional but a little bit warmer and less self indulgent."
-
- Play away In many ways Play can be split into three separate, yet
- intrinsically linked, sections. Firstly there are the tracks like the
- singles Honey and Run On which were formed around field recordings made
- by a folk historian called Alan Lennox who, along with his father,
- amassed a huge catalogue of black music in the early 20th century. Next
- up are the tracks featuring Moby himself on vocal duties like Porcelain
- and South Side. Finally come the quiet instrumental tracks like
- Rushing. The whole thing is then held together by the down temp,
- commercial hip hop breaks as inspired by Busta Rhymes and Puff Daddy.
-
- Despite the apparent change in direction, the whole thing still sounds
- typically Moby. Why? "I have a sort of like stereotypical string sound
- from the (Yamaha) SY22 which you hear on almost everything. I use the
- same two patches for everything," he says as we walk into his studio
- which he declares has been "tidied up for the benefit of this
- interview."
-
- "Every record I've ever made, I've done everything myself," he continues
- while stepping over Roxy Music CDs and Joe Jackson album, "mainly
- because whenever I work with other people in other studios I get kind of
- nervous.
-
- "This is because I've been working by myself since 1983 when I had a
- little Mattel drum machine and Task M four-track which set up my basic
- methodology of working. And when I go into outside studio I have that
- added pressure of having to do something good because I've just spent
- $2,000 a day on it. At home I can spend a week and get garbage and not
- feel bad about it."
-
- Moby's studio is swamped by two things: fly posters advertising all of
- his albums and his Soundcraft desk. Along one wall sits a rack of
- keyboards while his samplers and effects stand in a single tower. Next
- to the desk sit two Apple Macs. However it's the older model he reaches
- to in order to demonstrate the tools of his trade.
-
- "Isn't it pathetic I have this brand new Macintosh G3 and I'm still
- using my old 2CI," he laughs. "My friends think I'm a retard. I bought
- the brand new version of Cubase VST for the G3 but I don't like the way
- it quantisizes. This old version from about 1993 on my 2CI has, like,
- these four different built-in shuffle parameters and it just feels
- livelier.
-
- "In 1987 when I was messing around with my (Roland) TR-606 and my Casio
- CZ-101, all I wanted was more equipment," he continues as the Apple Mac
- loads the software. "I would read magazines and look in stores and
- drool over things. I'd be, like, If I only could afford a MidiVerb
- everything be fine'. I used to know my equipment inside out. But now
- that I've got loads of gear, I'm not so into pulling stuff apart. I'll
- even stick with the factory preset on the synths."
-
- With (Digidesign) Pro Tools up and running, Moby points to his four
- separate samplers, all of which he used in tandem in order to create as
- much sampling time as possible to record this album. On Everything Is
- Wrong, each track required a completely different set using separate
- sample disks and so on. The process of loading each track took at least
- 25 minutes. For Play Moby created a huge palette of sounds to choose
- from so he could just load and start playing as the mood took him.
-
- "I have this Akai museum here," he says. "I bought the S950 in 1990.
- In 1993 I bought the S1000 and then two years ago I bought the S3200.
- For this album I decided I wanted to create as much sample space as
- possible so I bought S3000. So I've got pretty much every Akai sampler
- they made between 1989 and 1998. Now they have all these big huge crazy
- ones with the removable faceplate but I don't have any of those.
-
- "To me the 1000, 3000, and the 3200 are pretty much the same machine.
- Thereæs a world of difference between them and the S950 but those three
- are pretty much the same. The differences are subtle. I mean the 3200
- is a waste of time for me. It does all of these things that I'll never
- do like read and write SMPTE. I use my Studio 4 for doing that. The
- S950 is a wonderful machine. It's really special for looping and
- rimming samples. For some reason it's just more intuitive."
-
- Learning leap For Moby sampling has a lot to do with intuition. Not for
- him the laborious task of learning to use the equipment inside out,
- upside down and in another dimension. "I've read an interview with DJ
- Shadow where he's said that he wants to master every single thing about
- the sampler and be like the sample king," he grins. "I'm not at all
- like him. My approach is pretty rudimentary. I sample things and then
- I use that sample.
-
- "The only thing I do tend to do is play with the filters. The S3200 has
- two filter banks which I really like. You can send things like LFO to
- the filters. On the track My Weakness from the latest album, I have
- this African choral vocal which has just been filtered to death. Now it
- has no bearing on the original. And there's a song called Down Slow,
- and it's got this drum loop which has been really manipulated through
- the filter banks. But that's about as far as I go into the trickery."
-
- Running the whole show is the trusty Cubase. Moby may not like the Mac
- version but it's a system he can't see himself changing in the near
- future. "When I bought my first Mac, the guy that sold it to me
- recommended Cubase so I went with that. Basically I've never used
- anything else since," he considers, as he absent-mindedly plays the Twin
- Peaks keyboard refrain from Go on his SY22, as if to make his earlier
- point about the stereotypical Moby string sound.
-
- "Until 1991, I used an Alesis MMT8, a potato chip sequencer that I
- loved. It's a wonderful piece of equipment but so limited. I loved the
- way it was part based rather than being linear like Cubase. It's really
- easy to make monotonous music on modern sequencers like Cubase as
- opposed to thinking about linear blocks and segments which helped avoid
- making monotonous
- music."
-
- "Sometimes, for me, it's the limitations of a piece of equipment that
- make a composition so special. The piano will always sound just like a
- piano but that limitation makes a piano wonderful. The only piece of
- equipment that comes close to being limitless is the sampler. The only
- real limitations are what we as humans bring to it."
-
- Magical Mystery Man
- A sentiment echoed time and time again on these very pages. However
- rarely do artists live up to their grandiose claims with record after
- record keeping to similar structures and frameworks. The magic of
- Moby's music is that it manages to tap into the energies of the source
- and marry them to the limitless imaginations of the true sonic surfer.
- His music may be commercial, but in his career he has explored more
- musical terrain than a thousand worthy underground artists.
-
- "These days there's so much to know about engineering in a studio," he
- concludes as we walk back into the white washed calm of his living
- room. "One of the album tracks, South Side, was mixed on an SSL. I'd
- always found them quite daunting but I succeeded and just thought to
- myself, "Wow, Iæm like a real engineer now'. It'll be interesting in 20
- or 30 years to autopsy the brains of sound engineers from the late 20th
- century."
-
- Doubtless, it would be just as interesting to autopsy the brain of one
- Richard æMoby' Hall as well. But let's hope it never comes to that.
-
- [Future Music Magazine, July 1999]
-
- (This was also included)
- Kit List:
- Akai S950, Akai S1000, Akai S3000, Akai 3200, Alesis ADAT, Apple Mac
- running Cubase, Casio CZ-101, dbx 160XT compressor, E-mu Pro Piano,
- Eventide DSP4000, Hafler power amp, Oberheim Matrix 1000, Roland
- Juno106, Roland Jupiter 6, Roland TB-303, Roland TR-606, Roland TR-909,
- Sans Amp footswitch, Serge modular synth, Soundlab vocoder, Spirit by
- Soundcraft 24:8:2 desk, Technics 1200 turntables, Waldorf Pulse Plus,
- Yamaha SPX900, Yamaha SY22, Yamaha SY35, Yamaha SY85 plus guitars and
- basses.
-
- Sidebar: "Moby's Graveyard"
- "I have a gear graveyard which I haven't looked at in a long time
- because itæs so depressing. The Roland GP-100 guitar preamp processor
- entered the graveyard really quickly because its got unusable sounds.
- It was cool in the show room but when I got it home it sounded too
- Japanese. Not that Iæm anti Japanese. "Another mistake was this
- Drawmer EQ. I got the idea that I needed a valve EQ so I bought this.
- It's really expensive, and it's good but I never use it. I also have a
- Yamaha TX16W. It's the least user-friendly operating system I've ever
- encountered in my life, it's just awful. I use it for strings very
- occasionally because it's got nice a nice organic string sound, like a
- solo violin. That was the first sampler I ever bought and I saved up my
- money for months to buy this thing. And it took me like forever just to
- do anything. I spent so many nights just going to be panicking because
- I'd just spent all this money on a sampler and I couldn't even get it to
- work".
-
- Sidebar: "Working Solo"
- "When you're working by yourself you can lose objectivity so quickly and
- molehills become mountains. I'll be working on a song and if I can't
- get the kick drum to sound right I'll think I'm a failure and walk
- around Manhattan, mourning my fate. It doesn't matter that I've made
- lots of records in the past. All that matters is I can't get one kick
- drum right. And all I can thinks is my careers over and I'm going to
- have to become a fries chef at Macdonalds.
-
- "I wasn't happy with the mixes other people did for me so I went back to
- my own mixes that I did at home. Then I asked Liam from The Prodigy to
- mix something because I loved the sound he got on The Fat Of The Land.
- It's just a remarkable sounding record. One of those nights last year
- when I was walking around Manhattan feelings like a failure, I'd done a
- mix here and I put in on headphones. Then I thought, just for fun I'd
- put on the The Fat Of The Land. It sounded a million times better so I
- got very depressed. So I asked Liam if he'd be interested in mixing
- some or all of the album but he was too busy. It was a fortunate thing
- in the end because I'm really happy with the way that the album turned
- out.
-
- "In the end I simply couldn't collaborate with someone else. The only
- time I've tried it was in 1991 with Westbam. We were hanging out
- together and decided it would be fun to try and make a track. In the
- end we just brought the worst out in each other. I've been making music
- for 25 years now so I don't think about the process that much. It's got
- to the point where it's neither an intellectual nor a visceral process.
- It's just something immediate and almost automatic. And working with
- another person simply affects that feeling."
-
- Pictures:
- - - Moby inside a grocery store, sitting on the ground, resting himself
- against a beverage cooler.
- - - Moby in a plain white T-shirt, with his hands folded covering his
- face. Almost as if he were going to take a nap during class, but
- instead takes a peak at you. The quotation around it is "Moby thinking
- hard about what style he's going to adopt for the next album."
- - - Moby playing a guitar and somewhat headbanging along.
- - - Another shot of Moby resting himself on those refrigerator doors in
- the grocery store. The quotation around it is "No one ever goes thirsty
- in Mobyæs well-equipped studio." I think it was just a little joke,
- because Moby's studio isn't in a supermarket!
-
- - ------------------------------------------------------------
- There's also a discography and a weird note when a paragraph on the
- magazine was to be continued on the next page they used a little
- triangle very similar to the Play button on the cover of "Play". Though
- it was just a coincidence because they used it on other interview
- articles.
-
- One last thing, the CD that comes bound with the magazine (Future Music)
- has the album version of "Natural Blues". The length is only different
- by one second. I'd comment on the rest of the disc but I haven't
- listened to it all yet, but I definitely recommend this magazine to
- Electronic Musicians. It is a bit expensive since its from the UK
- (lucky UK people!) but its got tons of info, plus the CD has music
- tracks usually from bands like Moby (electronic that is) and even
- unsigned artists that compete in contests, and demos and tools for
- making music. I may subscribe to it even though it will cost an arm and
- a leg. I hope you enjoyed this article, I enjoyed reading as I typed
- it, I just hope somebody hasn't already done the same or Future Music
- doesn't have it online. If you'd like to humor me, visit my website
- (located below), I have a couple of remixes I did for the Thanks 1 and
- (upcoming) 2 compilations. Plus my own music, where you can download
- mp3s at the mp3.com site. Thanks!
-
- Over and out.
- Eric
- http://www.tonematrix.com
- http://www.mp3.com/tonematrix
-
-
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