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(mobility) MP3 trading
(mobility) Thanks 2 again
Re: (mobility) underwater..
(mobility) Thanks 2 Again...
(mobility) @@@Swans...paul
Re: (mobility) Hi Damian!
(mobility) Move
Re: (mobility) Hi Damian! / Lopez
Re: (mobility) Move
Re: (mobility) Move
Re: (mobility) Move
(mobility) Fatboy Slim?
(mobility) Moby stuff on eBay
Re: (mobility) Hi Damian! / Lopez
(mobility) mixed and remixed
Re: (mobility) mixed and remixed
Re: (mobility) mp3list
(mobility) Moby discography
Re: (mobility) Fatboy Slim?
Re: (mobility) mixed and remixed
Re: (mobility)Lopez
Re: (mobility) Moby stuff on eBay
Re: (mobility) Moby stuff on eBay
(mobility) Redundant in a better world

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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 15:22:43 -0600
From: Rob Skipworth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) MP3 trading

Hi everyone,

I got a cd burner for christmas and i've been having the time of my life burning
mp3's.  (just to set the record straight, I collect LIVE songs and don't have
but a few copyrighted files)  I've found a lot of sites where people want to
trade cdr's of live shows in mp3 format.

I remember a LONG time ago, someone was talking about some moby bootlegs that
were floating around.  If anyone would like to hook me up with some of these, i
have lots i could send back to you.
ALSO, once i got some live mp3s of moby, i would be more than happy to help
distribute them to others who wanted to hear them...


I'm mainly interested in live electronic music, so if anyone has any on cd or
cdr, let me know PLEASE!

thanks
rob

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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 01:26:33 +0100
From: "Johan Jaatinen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Thanks 2 again

Hi!

I asked this question a few days ago but nobody answered. So here it is again:

Who is in charge for Thanks 2? Is it too late to come with contributions? I
have a remix of ATINITBL that I'd like to have included.

Cheers,
Johan.

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Johan Jaatinen                                         [e-mail]
Gothenburg, Sweden                                   [e-mail]

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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 21:38:55 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) underwater..

would anyone happen to know where i can get a copy of moby' s underwater 2cd
thing..i'm desperately looking for it just to hear what is sounds
like..perhaps someone even could make a copy for me and that would be
sufficient enough..another thing...how does the story so far cd differ from
its other version....love..elie

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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 21:50:45 -0600 (CST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Thanks 2 Again...

>Who is in charge for Thanks 2? Is it too late to come with contributions? I
>have a remix of ATINITBL that I'd like to have included.

>Cheers,
>Johan.


Johan,
Greg Shipley ([e-mail]) is heading the Thanks 2 project.  Talk to
him about submissions.

Andy
gingerbread man

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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 23:18:31 PST
From: "Android M" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) @@@Swans...paul

well, thanks for your thoughts.  and the link too.  If you like their
version of 'Love will tear us apart' you'll probably like 'The Burning
World'.  Like I said, it's completely off the beaten path for them.
It's actually very uplifting sounding.  Especially the song, 'Saved'...
they also do a fantastic cover of 'can't find my way home'. It's out of
print, but if you happen to get the chance I would recommend buying it.
you know, funny about Jarboe.  they write the equivalent of
'audio-snuff' but when you talk to her she's a very kind and hospitable
person.  but, I guess that's always been the case with shock-rock?

do you have any Diamanda Galas records?

- --a


>You have to believe me that this album is not even to be compared to
>the Swans really...
>here's a quote from a review:
>"Jarboe initially demonstrated her songwriting talents on her
>folk-based 1996 solo album Sacrificial Cake and on three
>albums for the Swans side project the World of Skin.
>However, Anhedoniac is the first work to strongly distance
>itself from Swans=92 influence."
>http://www.sfweekly.com/archives/1998/082698/record1.html?cat=3Dma&query=3D=
>jarboe
>The whole review is there...
>
>Everything I've heard from the Swans has been what I would consider
>music- but most of what is on the Jarboe album is non-melodic noise.


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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 10:55:35 +0000 (GMT)
From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Hi Damian!

On Sun, 28 Feb 1999 21:29:36 +0100 Van Eijck
<[e-mail]> wrote:


> I first heard of Moby when heard the song MOVE on the radio in 1993.
> In 1995 I bought the 2CD Everything is wrong, because the store I bought
> it in gave a huge discount. (because the store bought too much of them)
> I listened to it and I was pleasantly surprised by it's diversity, but I didn't
> start to collect Moby's records until 1996.
>

Hello,

Sounds uncannily similar to how I got into Moby.

Can anyone recommend the best Lopez release - album or
single? Not heard any yet.

TMB


- ----------------------
Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 23:03:59 +0900
From: AJ Brustein <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Move

One quick question about that Move remix that can't be found. What is it
called again? And Dan, how many tracks did you say that you think the Jap
release has? I'll tell you when I get it. Later.
AJ

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Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 07:42:57 -0700
From: Damian <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Hi Damian! / Lopez

Tim Beecher wrote:
>
> Can anyone recommend the best Lopez release - album or
> single? Not heard any yet.

IMO, the best Lopez single is: Why Can't It Stop?  Killer stuff!!!
And the only album is THE END OF EVERYTHING, very different from WCIS.
WCIS being very up tempo rather than down tempo.  Both are essential
releases in my book.  :)

Damian.

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Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 08:36:35 -0700
From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Move

AJ Brustein wrote:
> One quick question about that Move remix that can't be found. What is it
> called again?

"Move (You Make Me Feel So Good)".  That doesn't make it very easy
to spot, because all the releases that only have the radio edit of
this track call it the same thing (except for the US 12", which
labels it correctly).

I was thinking, though, that you or whoever it was that was trying
to identify this elusive Move mix might be referring instead to the
'Sub Version' or 'Xtra Mix', both of which have notable basslines.
The 'Sub Version' is a great, hard, electronic dance track that has
a deep bassline that revs up and down similar to "Feeling So Real".
The 'Xtra Mix' is a funky track with something like a guitar making
the bassline, which is looped.  This mix can only be found on 12".

> And Dan, how many tracks did you say that you think the Jap release has?

7.

BTW, I heard that Moby DJed in Austin on Saturday night.  I don't
know where.  Did anyone get to see him?

Dan

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Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 00:55:07 +0900
From: AJ Brustein <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Move

Well, it wasn't me who was trying to identify the track, it was me who was
looking for it. And if it is called, Move (You make me feel so good), well
then today I found it! Whoever it was, please speak up and I will go check it
out tomorrow. If it isn't that, well, then which version is it? I really want
the move sticker anyone, so I am looking to buy one. But, the thing is, this
CD has only 6  tracks:
Move (You make me feel so good)
All I want it to be loved (MV)
Morning dove
Move (Disco ...(can't read my own handwriting))
Unloved Symphany
The rain falls and the sky shudders
Could this be it? Later.
AJ

Daniel Cerman wrote:
>
> AJ Brustein wrote:
> > One quick question about that Move remix that can't be found. What is it
> > called again?
>
> "Move (You Make Me Feel So Good)".  That doesn't make it very easy
> to spot, because all the releases that only have the radio edit of
> this track call it the same thing (except for the US 12", which
> labels it correctly).
>
> I was thinking, though, that you or whoever it was that was trying
> to identify this elusive Move mix might be referring instead to the
> 'Sub Version' or 'Xtra Mix', both of which have notable basslines.
> The 'Sub Version' is a great, hard, electronic dance track that has
> a deep bassline that revs up and down similar to "Feeling So Real".
> The 'Xtra Mix' is a funky track with something like a guitar making
> the bassline, which is looped.  This mix can only be found on 12".
>
> > And Dan, how many tracks did you say that you think the Jap release has?
>
> 7.
>
> BTW, I heard that Moby DJed in Austin on Saturday night.  I don't
> know where.  Did anyone get to see him?
>
> Dan

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Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 09:00:59 -0700
From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Move

AJ Brustein wrote:
> And if it is called, Move (You make me feel so good), well
> then today I found it! Whoever it was, please speak up and I will go check it
> out tomorrow. If it isn't that, well, then which version is it? I really want
> the move sticker anyone, so I am looking to buy one. But, the thing is, this
> CD has only 6  tracks:
> Move (You make me feel so good)
> All I want it to be loved (MV)
> Morning dove
> Move (Disco ...(can't read my own handwriting))
> Unloved Symphany
> The rain falls and the sky shudders
> Could this be it? Later.

I don't think so.  That looks like the regular US Move EP, which should
include the sticker, but as with all other known CD releases of Move,
"Move (You Make Me Feel So Good)" is actually the radio edit of "Move
(You Make Me Feel So Good)".

Track 4 is "Move (Disco Threat)", which is another excellent version.

Don't get me wrong -- the above EP is great.  In fact, I think it is
Moby's best release ever.  All the tracks are top-notch.  But the
first track is a radio edit of the real mix, and unlike other radio
edits, this one fails completely to retain the wonderful buildups of
the full mix.

That's why I'm so eager to find a CD with the full 6'24" version of
"Move (You Make Me Feel So Good)".  I don't think such a thing exists,
and my only hope is in this mythical 7-track Move EP from Japan or
Canada that nobody has ever actually seen.

- ---
Daniel Cerman
http://www.moby.org/

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Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 09:16:36 PST
From: "Michael Matos" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Fatboy Slim?

Wondered if anyone out there was in possession of a copy of the webcast
of Fatboy Slim's live Boston set? It was 'cast about a week ago; info at
the Skint site--www.skint.net.

If you do have a copy (burned or taped or whatever) that I could trade
for (blank tapes if nothing else) I'd really appreciate it. And if you
haven't heard his import-only On the Floor at the Boutique, you don't
know what you're missing. The best DJ-mix CD ever. Really. (It comes out
in the US in June, tentatively.)

Thanks to all who can help; and email your reply privately, natch.

Matos

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Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 10:32:51 -0700
From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Moby stuff on eBay

There are some nice Moby items up for auction on eBay.  I would
include a link directly to them, but it won't fit within 80 columns,
so go to http://www.moby.org/merc.html and click on the "search for
Moby stuff" link under the "Auction sites" heading.

Some of the things available for auction now include:

  71407314   Animal Rights promo postcard (Elektra)
  72279717   Animal Rights: Live at the Splash Club promo CD
  72280698   Honey UK promo CD with 6 mixes
  72722331   Revolver (Australian CD with techno remixes)

None of the above listed items have any bids on them yet!  And they
are starting at $2 for the postcard and $3 for each CD.  The "Honey"
promo CD includes three mixes you won't find on CD anywhere else:
RJ's Mix, Bammer's Mix, and the 118 Mix by Moby (not the edited
version on the UK#2 "Honey" single).

I already have those CDs, but figured that maybe someone on this
list might be interested in them.  If you're in search of things
like promo CDs, eBay is a good place to look.

I am not an employee of eBay or Moby. :)

BTW, http://www.moby.org/info/moby19990226.html

- ---
Daniel Cerman
http://www.moby.org/

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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 17:38:59 +0000 (GMT)
From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Hi Damian! / Lopez

Thanks Damian. I have Voodoo Child - EOE, which I love.
Will have to check with Mute if they have anything under
Lopez, as I got EOE from them.

Tim.

On Mon, 01 Mar 1999 07:42:57 -0700 Damian
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> Tim Beecher wrote:
> >
> > Can anyone recommend the best Lopez release - album or
> > single? Not heard any yet.
>
> IMO, the best Lopez single is: Why Can't It Stop?  Killer stuff!!!
> And the only album is THE END OF EVERYTHING, very different from WCIS.
> WCIS being very up tempo rather than down tempo.  Both are essential
> releases in my book.  :)
>
> Damian.
>

- ----------------------
Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 13:21:26 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) mixed and remixed

i was shopping online for everything is wrong mixed and remixed and came
across an import for $33 and then a us release for $19. both have 26 tracks
and are the same length, and it says the import is a collectors addition. i
bought the us version, but is there another one?
andrew

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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 14:42:29 -0500
From: Brett McSherry <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) mixed and remixed

>i was shopping online for everything is wrong mixed and remixed and came
>across an import for $33 and then a us release for $19. both have 26 tracks
>and are the same length, and it says the import is a collectors addition. i
>bought the us version, but is there another one?
>andrew

Mine is from mute, which would make it an import, but I don't know anything
about it being any different from an american release. Even the packaging
as far as I can tell is the same. I don't know I have never looked at the
Elektra (if it is on Elektra) release closely enough to relate the two.

Brett McSherry

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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 19:46:30 +0000
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) mp3list

> From:          "Geoffrey Sproule" <[e-mail]>
> To:            <[e-mail]>
> Subject:       (mobility) mp3list
> Date:          Tue, 23 Feb 1999 22:59:34 +0000
> Reply-to:      [e-mail]

>
> >
> >p.s.  To make this Moby related, I own 74 Moby CD's so if you are aching to
> >hear a certain version of a Moby remix, I most likely have it.


Has he really done that many.


Could you possibly list them or point me in the direction of a good
discography which might give me some idea of which ones I'd like.


Ed

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Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 13:13:59 -0700
From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Moby discography

[e-mail] wrote:
> Could you possibly list them or point me in the direction of a good
> discography which might give me some idea of which ones I'd like.

http://www.moby.org/discog.html

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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 15:20:06 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Fatboy Slim?

I would also love to get a copy of the LIVE FBS set in boston ... i will send
a blank CD to anyone who can burn me a copy ...

- -Qggo

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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 15:27:03 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) mixed and remixed

both are actually from mute. the place is www.ab-cd.com. they have a lot of
lopez stuff if anyone wants to look at them.

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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 21:53:08 +0100
From: "Van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility)Lopez

>Tim Beecher wrote:
>>
>> Can anyone recommend the best Lopez release - album or
>> single? Not heard any yet.
>
>Well I think the song "fucked up" from the emptiness/fucked up
single is the best. Great samples and synth. and a nice rolling
beat. Best played at high volume!


Bart van Eijck       [e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 21:53:15 +0100
From: "Van Eijck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby stuff on eBay

Daniel Cerman wrote: >There are some nice Moby items up for auction on eBay.

Could anybody tell me how such an auction works?
I live in Holland, so won't the payment and delivery be a problem?

Bart van Eijck
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 14:55:03 -0600
From: Christopher Michael Bourke <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby stuff on eBay

>Daniel Cerman wrote: >There are some nice Moby items up for auction on
eBay.
>
>Could anybody tell me how such an auction works?
>I live in Holland, so won't the payment and delivery be a problem?
>
>Bart van Eijck
>[e-mail]


Yes, Ebay(www.ebay.com) does present a problem for people outside the U.S.
First you need to register, it's free, so no problem there.  When you find
an item you are willing to bid on, besure to email the seller first to find
out if they are even willing to send it outside the US.  Then bid wisely, as
someone who lives outside the US you can expect to pay more than others, so
you may be willing to pay less overall.

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Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 14:22:50 PST
From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Redundant in a better world

Many (most) of you are already aware of the Ultimate Moby Page.
http://www.moby.org

You can read reviews, look at pictures, get miscellaneous info, browse
the discography, or read the mobility archives there. This site is a
useful tool for finding information related to Moby. In fact, I have the
discography page bookmarked. Instead of asking the list what the Story
So Far is ten times (and getting no answer), you can look for yourself.
It's as easy as 1-2-3. Here's a track comparison of Moby (self-titled)
and Story So Far, which serves as a good example.

FYI: Both CDs have the same cover art.

Both albums have these songs: Ah-Ah, Everything, Yeah, Slight Return,
Stream, Help Me To Beleive, Mercy

Moby has: Electricity, Drop A Beat, Next Is The E, Go, Have You Seen My
Baby

The Story So Far has: I Feel It (I Feel It Mix), Drop A Beat (The New
Version), Thousand, Go (Subliminal Mix Unedited Version), Go (Woodtick
Mix)

The Story So Far vinyl is lacking "Mercy".
The Moby vinyl is lacking "Mercy" & "Stream".

Other items:

There are two releases of the EIW MIXED! REMIXED! 2CD set, but neither
is from the US. The cheaper one is most likely from the UK (Mute), and
the expensive one is probably from Germany (Mute / Intercord)I don't
know if they would look identical of not. They should on the outside, at
least. I have the German EIW/Underwater and the liner notes are arranged
differently and the CD itself has only blue & red inks on silver. I
remember my friends US EIW being flat red w/ colored letters, I think.
Also, on the German version, the essays & header bars for the essays are
black & white pages, no color. The photo pages are in full color,
however. (unlike the US EIW which has colored headers)

I might be the only one who prefers the other Lopez release over Why
Can't It Stop?. That would be Emptiness/Fucked Up. That CD is just add
water instant zombie mix.

I got the Winter 95 Reockvideo Monthly, (for $1) which has the full
videos for Hymn (This Is My Dream), Everytime You Touch Me, and Feeling
So Real. It also has a video profile, which is essentially an expanded
version of that which is found on the multimedia portion of Disk. The
other videos on there rule, too, especially the EBN. (KMFDM, Towa Tei,
EBN, & Prodigy)

Yes, Ed, Moby has 74+ CDs. There are usually 2 UK releases for each
single that are different from the 2 Europe singles which are different
from the 1 US single. With all of Moby's singles you get many, many
variations. Some only differ by one mix. Think of 'Go!' and you'll
understand.

- -Steve

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