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mobility-digest       Friday, February 26 1999       Volume 01 : Number 342



Re: (mobility) Run On and Play
(mobility) The sickness of Swans & Thanks II
(mobility) Cc: [e-mail]
(mobility) [Fwd: Run On]
(mobility) UK release of PLAY?
Re: (mobility) move
Re: (mobility) move
(mobility) dj cake...
Re: (mobility) Run On and Play
(mobility) Moby's Summer 1999 Tour
Re: (mobility) Moby's Summer 1999 Tour
(mobility) Greg Shipley
Re: (mobility) Greg Shipley
Re: (mobility) Greg Shipley
Re: (mobility) new thread
(mobility) various subjects
(mobility) various subjects
(mobility) Best Moby Singles?
Re: (mobility) Best Moby Singles?
Re: (mobility) new thread
Re: (mobility) Best Moby Singles?

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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 18:58:46 -0600
From: "Brad Caviness" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Run On and Play

- -----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Cerman
>The new single _Run On_ will be released in Europe (and of course
>the UK) in mid-April.
[snip]
>"Running"
>Moby's new album _Play_ has 18 songs!  The track listing,
[snip]
>  WHY DOES MY HEART FEEL SO BAD?

Hmm, could these be "Running Black Woman" and "Why You Hurt Me So" from the
infamous bootleg Outtakes cassette cleverly retitled? I hope so. Those are
the two best original songs in the collection. At least my two favorites.

BSC

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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 19:55:41 PST
From: "Android M" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) The sickness of Swans & Thanks II

>From: "Dr. Killpatient" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: (mobility) Swans
>
>You are going to knock Underworld as well as promote Swans info, huh?
>Well if you want to talk about complete and utter crap
>then let me know if you have heard the latest CD from Jarboe!!!!
>I got a promo for it months ago and I must say it's probably
>the most disgusting, sick demented shit you could ever hope to hear.
>And to think I used to like the Swans...she's a fucking freak
>paul
>

I don't know if my last message got through or not but I'll try again...

I'm not going to rag on you, personally, or your opinion but I would
like to ask you one question:

WHEN did you like the Swans?  They've ALWAYS been twisted.  Have you
read Michael Gira's poetry?  It's about getting fucked in the ass by
wealthy businessmen, stabbing and raping a homeless man, etc.  (All
highly symbolic of the society in which we live, mind you)  I'm assuming
(and am open to being wrong) that you heard 'The Burning World' and
liked it and then heard some of their 15 other albums and were appalled.
'The Burning World' was to the Swans what 'Animal Rights' was to Moby --
off the beaten path.  (coincidentally, some of the songs on AR sound
similar to The Burning World--acoustic guitar, violin, drum machine,
etc.)  The swans lyrics are nothing more than highly symbolic mind
stories.  I'm sorry you don't have the stomach for it.  Not everyone on
this list continually gets off on giddy-kiddy-techno (only the
closed-minded ravers).  I want to hear Moby's fun, enlightened, peaceful
craziness just as much as Michael Gira's acoustic guitar & violent
poetry.  I happen to own a couple Underworld singles which are fucking
great.  I disregard your & Matos' 'underworld vs. Swans' competition.
Both are great bands but for different reasons.  Apples & oranges,
guys...

which Jarboe promo CD is it?  since you hate it, would you like to sell
it to me?  : {]>

If you (or anyone) want to respond, do so but please refrain from
FLAMING.  I'm allergic to it...

ok, remotely Moby related...

Any news on 'Thanks II'?

- --a

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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 21:37:43 -0700
From: Chris <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Cc: [e-mail]

could someobody please tell me where i can find a good site with lots of
goa/progressive trance/house/acid/techno/etc mp3s?  i've spent the past hour
looking and can't find a single functioning site.  any help is much appreciated.


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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 00:34:38 -0500
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Subject: (mobility) [Fwd: Run On]

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>The new single _Run On_ will be released in Europe (and of course
the UK) in mid-April.  It has *four* B-sides!  They are:  "Spirit",
"Running", "Sunday", and "Down Slow".

As I mentioned earlier, the themesong to Oprah is also named "Run On".
After reading the lyrics of the song (which I have included for you) I
find it amusing that Moby's b-sides are called "spirit" (just so happens
that this is a segment now on the revamped Oprah show), "Running",
"Sunday"
and "Down Slow".  Perhaps Moby had a similar idea behind his single, as
both he and Oprah are christian? What do you all think?

I believe I'll run on,
see what the end will be
I believe I'll work on
find out what waits for
I see ten thousand stories and glories and
dreams
I see angels right here on earth
I see laughing and growing and loving
and knowing what life is worth
so I'll run on and see what tomorrow will be
cause I like what I see
there's a new road to walk, a new song to
sing
a miracle in what a small change can bring
our hearts are open wide
got a new light shining inside
and it makes me wanna run on, see what
tomorrow will be
cause I like what I see
come on and run with me.

Well.. the lyrics are sort of idealistic, however, if
they help anyone out of a tough time... I dunno!
If I saw "angels right here on earth" I'd probably
not believe my eyes, or would see them as something else!
I'm sure other people would hand out pamphlets about them
coinciding to the world ending in the next 6 years.. 6
months, 6 days, 6 minutes.. and 66 seconds..
Others might claim that they are actually aliens.. and
(according to stereotypes from multiple movies) the United
States would solve the problem by dropping and atom bomb on
them!

Hee hee hee.....

Flame me if you will!

Laterz my cronies!

- -Jennafur!

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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 23:48:06 -0600
From: Christopher Michael Bourke <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) UK release of PLAY?

Thanks for the info on play.  Do you know the exact date of it's UK release?
We should all start scouting online CD vendors to find out when we can
order/preorder the UK release here in the US.  I remember getting the Honey
CDs from Replay Records...

Does anyone know of anyother good UK distro sites that would offer shipping
to the US when PLAY comes out?  better yet, one that offers preorders?

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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 08:23:30 +0100
From: "Johan Jaatinen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) move

>While on the subject of Move, I wonder why no UK release contains
>the excellent "Disco Threat" mix.  The EIW remix 2CD doesn't count.

I once owned a UK 2-track CD, containing "Move (You Make Me Feel So Good)
[radio edit]" and "Move (Disco Threat Mix)". (I then got the US CD and sold
it.) So for once you're wrong Dan...

Cheers,
Johan.

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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 01:32:47 -0700
From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) move

Johan Jaatinen wrote:
> >While on the subject of Move, I wonder why no UK release contains
> >the excellent "Disco Threat" mix.  The EIW remix 2CD doesn't count.
>
> I once owned a UK 2-track CD, containing "Move (You Make Me Feel So Good)
> [radio edit]" and "Move (Disco Threat Mix)". (I then got the US CD and sold
> it.) So for once you're wrong Dan...

OK, you got me.  Except for one thing...  Moby's UK folks don't seem
to think that these 2-track releases originate in the UK.  So either
they're licensed by Mute and produced outside of the UK, or they're
really made in the UK but officially disavowed for British chart
rules compliance reasons.  If there is another explanation, please
let me know.  I'm in the dark on this subject, and you live a lot
closer to the source.

I don't know what I'm talking about.  Time to go to bed... ;)

Dan

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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 09:05:38 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) dj cake...

i was looking at amazon.com and tried the search engine..when i typed dj cake,
it came up showing a dj steve and cake...is this the one or something
else..elie

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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 09:28:41 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Daniel Redmond)
Subject: Re: (mobility) Run On and Play

>Moby will tour Europe and North America starting in June.

Any word on venues and dates?  Or am i just a tad bit too early on this one?

daniel

"Even sitting in the garden one can still get stung" - Faithless

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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 09:58:50 -0700
From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Moby's Summer 1999 Tour

Daniel Redmond wrote:
>>Moby will tour Europe and North America starting in June.
>
>Any word on venues and dates?  Or am i just a tad bit too early on this one?

I don't know any venues and dates.  I think that http://www.fwwt.com/
will post the European ones when they become available, and there's
an outside chance that Mute will post the US dates on its website.
I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Dan

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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 14:56:48 -0500
From: Brett McSherry <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby's Summer 1999 Tour

>Daniel Redmond wrote:
>>>Moby will tour Europe and North America starting in June.
>>
>>Any word on venues and dates?  Or am i just a tad bit too early on this one?
>
>I don't know any venues and dates.  I think that http://www.fwwt.com/
>will post the European ones when they become available, and there's
>an outside chance that Mute will post the US dates on its website.
>I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
>
>Dan



I have to say I really hope there is a NORTH in his North America tour
dates. That would suck if he didn't come to Canada to showcase his new
album. Oh well, if I had to drive by myself down to the US for a couple of
days to see a show I  would do it anyways. This should be a good summer for
album's though. After Moby's, the Machines of Loving Grace have a new one
coming out, the Tea Party should have one out in 2 or 3 months (I hear it's
better then the last), and hey now the Orb, kick ass I did not know that!
Looks like I just might have to spend my summer in front of my stereo.



Again about the move single that is terrible that a version to the song
that good would not see a cd single. However, I am pretty sure that if the
radio had at one point been playing the full version, there must be a
complilation of it somewhere up here. Seeing as a lot of radio jockey's now
just play cd's in their booth. I can't see how that song wouldn't have made
at least one complilation!


Brett McSherry

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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:10:29 -0600
From: Robert Taylor <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Greg Shipley

Greg.
I sent you some tracks I did for the Mobility Thanks 2 compilation.
I've never heard from you. Did you recieve it?
Please let me know.
RT

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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 17:06:38 -0600 (CST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Greg Shipley

On Wed, 24 Feb 1999, Robert Taylor wrote:

> I sent you some tracks I did for the Mobility Thanks 2 compilation.
> I've never heard from you. Did you recieve it?
> Please let me know.

Yup.  Got it.  Thanks! (and its pretty good, too!)

More coming....

- -G

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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 08:12:50 -0600
From: Robert Taylor <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Greg Shipley

Hey that's great! Can you maybe review some of the tracks to
let people know what to expect when Thanks 2 finally is released.

RT


[e-mail] wrote:

> On Wed, 24 Feb 1999, Robert Taylor wrote:
>
> > I sent you some tracks I did for the Mobility Thanks 2 compilation.
> > I've never heard from you. Did you recieve it?
> > Please let me know.
>
> Yup.  Got it.  Thanks! (and its pretty good, too!)
>
> More coming....
>
> -G

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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 13:19:38 CST
From: "Derek Goodwrench" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) new thread

 Pink Floyd are pompous


   David Gilmour is one of the most modest people in music. Because they
(PF) spent something like 15 years on the charts with one album and have
sold millions of them, I'd say they're pretty decent. :-)


     d...

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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 12:29:07 PST
From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) various subjects

Elie, that is not the Dj Cake CD. Moby's Dj Cake CD is called Sugar Baby
and is on Trophy Records. I've never heard of Dj Steve & Cake,
personally. Does anybody know what they sound like?

AJ, I'll stop 'glorifying' ebay since you're doing quite a good job on
your own.

Chris B., you were asking about preorders for Run On & Play. I'd advise
you to wait and see what the release conditions are. For instance, if
you preordered Honey back in July/August 97 you were buying the UK
release. However, if you waited until after the release you had the
opportunity to buy the singles at a domestic price. (I think it was
$6.49 vs. $10.49 at CDNow) This all depends on whether Play is released
by a US label at the same time or later on. (like with AR) When the time
comes I'm sure I'll have links to post to help you out.

The Move 12" that's been discussed recently is really a very nice record
to own. In addition to the full Move (YMMFSG), there's also the full
version of ATINITBL (MV), which is called ATINITBL (Vocal Dance). Apart
from being longer, there's some extra ear candy and effects thrown in
which really complement the song. If I remember correctly, the buildups
are longer, also.

The Price Is Right

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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 12:29:06 PST
From: "Steve Giles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) various subjects

Elie, that is not the Dj Cake CD. Moby's Dj Cake CD is called Sugar Baby
and is on Trophy Records. I've never heard of Dj Steve & Cake,
personally. Does anybody know what they sound like?

AJ, I'll stop 'glorifying' ebay since you're doing quite a good job on
your own.

Chris B., you were asking about preorders for Run On & Play. I'd advise
you to wait and see what the release conditions are. For instance, if
you preordered Honey back in July/August 97 you were buying the UK
release. However, if you waited until after the release you had the
opportunity to buy the singles at a domestic price. (I think it was
$6.49 vs. $10.49 at CDNow) This all depends on whether Play is released
by a US label at the same time or later on. (like with AR) When the time
comes I'm sure I'll have links to post to help you out.

The Move 12" that's been discussed recently is really a very nice record
to own. In addition to the full Move (YMMFSG), there's also the full
version of ATINITBL (MV), which is called ATINITBL (Vocal Dance). Apart
from being longer, there's some extra ear candy and effects thrown in
which really complement the song. If I remember correctly, the buildups
are longer, also.

The Price Is Right

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Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 10:54:16 -0700 (MST)
From: Ruben A Blanco <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Best Moby Singles?

Hello Folks,

I know this has been asked and answered many times before, however
what (and why) is the Best Moby Single(s)? Besides the Honey and Move
releases. How do the singles: Into the Blue, and When I reach for my
revolver rank?

Thanks.

Ruben A. Blanco
[e-mail]
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Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 17:57:16 +0000
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Best Moby Singles?

> D
> I know this has been asked and answered many times before, however
> what (and why) is the Best Moby Single(s)? Besides the Honey and Move
> releases. How do the singles: Into the Blue, and When I reach for my
> revolver rank?
>





That's when I reach for my Revolver is my favourite and the only
actual single I have brought.  I also love 'Into the Blue' it is one
of my all time favourite songs.

Ed

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Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 18:01:25 +0000
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) new thread

>  Pink Floyd are pompous






What I've heard of them, I think is rather classy actually.  I love
the album 'The Division Bell.'  Very memorable lyrics and imaginative
music.  Also 'Another Brick in the Wall' (I think that's the name of
their live album) is fantastic.  I like it anyway, it hits the spot
for me.  If people don't like them then that's fine it is all very
subjective.

Ed

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Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 15:53:58 -0700
From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Best Moby Singles?

I sent this message earlier, but it seems that a mail snafu prevented
it from making it out.  So here's my second attempt...

Ruben A Blanco wrote:
> I know this has been asked and answered many times before, however
> what (and why) is the Best Moby Single(s)? Besides the Honey and Move
> releases. How do the singles: Into the Blue, and When I reach for my
> revolver rank?

Even though I like it, I don't consider "Honey" to be one of Moby's
best singles.  My favorite single after "Move" is "Hymn", followed by
"Next Is The E".  Then I think I'd say "Go", but since it's been so
overplayed, it gets demoted.  You should definitely check out Instinct
Records' _Go Remixes_ CD, though.  An alternate for fourth place would
be "All That I Need Is To Be Loved".  But since it was barely a single
(just a 12" in the US and Czech Republic), it doesn't count.

"Into The Blue" is my fourth-favorite Moby single, I guess.  I love
it.  The remixes, several of which Moby did himself, are top notch.
There hasn't been a better single since "Into The Blue" came out.

After that, it becomes really hard for me to rank Moby's other
singles.  They are basically good -- you can hardly go wrong with
Moby.  But I don't want to put them in any order of goodness.  "That's
When I Reach For My Revolver" is a good single because of its B-sides
"Sway", "Every One Of My Problems", and "God Moving Over The Face Of
The Waters (Heat Mix)".  Very nice tracks.  The remix and other
B-sides are alright.

"Everytime You Touch Me" has some remixes that are very good, and
some that are among the most annoying things released by Moby.  It
also has a B-side that I like a lot called "The Blue Light Of The
Underwater Sun".

The "Feeling So Real" single is worth picking up for its 'Unashamed
Ecstatic Piano Mix', which is just wonderful.  You can also find this
remix on the _Disk_ enhanced CD, which also includes "Shining" and
some interesting computer stuff that most Windows 9x users can't see.

Moby's old Instinct 12" singles are nice, but very hard to find.
Get them if you can, because it'll be worth it.


BTW, I have track listings for the upcoming UK "Run On" single at
http://www.moby.org/reviews/runon.html

The single "Run On" will be released on 26 April.
The album _Play_ will be released worldwide on 17 May, except for
the USA and Canada, which will probably release it in mid-June.

- ---
Daniel Cerman
http://www.moby.org/

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