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mobility-digest       Thursday, February 4 1999       Volume 01 : Number 326



(mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #325
(mobility) UGH.  ...and a survey.
Re: (mobility) boring
Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #325
Re: (mobility) Goldie
Re: (mobility) boring
Re: (mobility) breath of fresh air
Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #325
Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #325
Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #325

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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 23:02:58 PST
From: "Android M" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #325

>    So. I got a question.  I was wondering if
>there are like 35 Slovakian lurkers or something. Or maybe another Moby
fan in
>Japan? Or Australia? They speak English there. Anyone? Later.
>AJ

Well, my girlfriend, also a Moby fan, is from Miyazaki. Maybe you've
heard of it?  On kyuushu.  Mellow town, relatively speaking.  In fact,
she's flying home for a one month vacation as I write this.  Are you in
Tokyo (I thought I remember you saying you were living there now)?

QUESTION FOR THE LIST: how many times have you seen Moby live?  What was
your favorite incarnation? (ie: disco phase or guitar phase...)

I must say seeing Moby for the first time in 1994 was amazing.
"Thousand" at the end of the set was stunning, to say the least.

See ya...

- --a

np: negativland: a big 10-8 place


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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 01:47:17 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) UGH.  ...and a survey.

Holly SHIT,

I'm worn out from trying to catch up with all of the posts that have
come through as of late.  And no, I don't have the choice of deleting
everything with an "@" sign.  It's good to see that the history thread
is over.  I would have acted more quickly had it not been for other
responsibilities (sorry).  Sadly, I don't think people realize how many
members have *unsubscribed* today because of that discussion and the
hard feelings that came with it.  =(

But it's over, so I expect the bitterness to be over too.

And moving on...


> 1)  Do you like Moby?
  Yeppers.  But some of his views/statements have upset me at times.
> 2)  Which album is your favourite?
  "Everything Is Wrong" (then The End Of Everything)
> 3)  Which single is your favourite?
  Ooh that's a hard choice... Hymn, Why Can't It Stop, Move, Honey.
> 4)  Which song is your favourite?
  "First Cool Hive" comes to mind and "Drug Fits The Face"
> 5)  If you could be anyone, who would it be?
  Other than the "me" thing... Moby, Andy Bell, Vincent Clark, Peter
  Rauhofer... and as for a woman?  How about Bjork or Sinead O'Conner
  (though her life's turmoil would be hard to handle, crazy choices ay!)
> 6)  Which hairdoo looks best on Moby?
  Shaved bald
> 7)  When do you predict Moby will next tour?
  Hopefully this summer.
> 8)  What type of pet(s), if you have/had?
  Just one, Kizzey (female black lab), but that was years ago.  =(
> 9)  Where would you go if you could go anywhere in the world?
  England! (and it's gonna happen on day, it must)
> 10)  What is your favourite colour of socks and why?
   Black as of late.
> 11)  What do you think will happen in the year 2000?
  I'm gonna play 2K/KLF's "F**K the millennium" just like Jake and
  I'm going to continue to party like it's 1999.  No stopping here!
> 12)  Where do you think you will be in 10 years?
  Back in Utah, but who knows where between that time.  =)
> 13)  What's your favourite colour of toothbrush?
  No need to get cranky over a question guys, but sumpin clear is nice.
> 14)  What's your biggest pet peeve?
  Talking during movies is a good one & negativity.
> 15)  Do you want to be buried or cremated?
  I thought buried but maybe cremation is a good idea?
> 16)  What's your favourite type of cookie?
  Whatever my mom cooks, she's great at that stuff.

thanks for the survey Jen!


Damian
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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 10:51:14 +0200
From: Samu Heinonen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) boring

At 14:55 3.2.1999 -0800, you wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>---"M. Rice" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> >this list has gone far too boring, and i am too bored to read it
>anymore..
>>
>>
>> Then don't.  No one forces anyone to read anything.  Unsubscribe.
>It's not
>> hard.
>
>Your wrong there I am forced to read and recieve a boat load of non
>moby shit on a daily basis and could care less to read it its like
>getting the Globe when I have the Times!!!!!
>
>
>> >i don't really wanna even know your personal moby favourites or
>something
>> >like that. some point for the mails , please.
>>
>> This is a Moby list.  In spite of arguments on the list about what
>is 'on
>> topic,' certainly no one can doubt that personal Moby favorites are on
>> topic.  This is a list of Moby fans talking about Moby and his music.
>
>
>This point I tend to agree with if its moby its here if ya dont want
>to know about moby then i would agree with leaving the list.
>
>> >and other thing is that moby's music is ain't as good anymore as it
>was
>> >back in 92-95.. almost every new produtions are quite awful, i hate
>to say
>> >that, but i think so.
>>
>> Good, think it.  Not everyone will agree.
>
>Now that was a stupid comment <think it....>, its people like you that
>try to silence people not to hear a point of view. Show some maturity
>please unless your 12!!!!
>
>> >personally i have gone more for deep house and stuff like that. I
>just love
>> >that deep & mood chicago house, that is what good music should be.
>i love
>> >kevin yost, mood ii swing, wamdue kids, jori hulkkonen , glenn
>underground
>> >and artists like that. anyone else here who likes too?
>>
>>
>> There is nothing that 'good' music should be.  What defines 'good'
>music is
>> a person's taste.  I think all of your favorite artists are
>worthless shits.
>> Besides, this is a Moby list, not a jori hilkkonen list, not even a
>deep
>> house list.  M-O-B-Y
>
>
>One again we have an opion the doent compute with the shit bird
>attituide of Mr. Fucking Rice, I have a suggestion why not let this
>gentleman express his views with out telling him that every word he
>writes is shit!
>I think the the point that he might be trying to get across is that
>this list has been lacking in content and filled with other mindless
>shit!
>I can now say this because i have tryed and gotten nowhere, so i wait
>for good content.
>
>> >moby's music is too "pop" for me nowdays.
>>
>>
>> You sound like an underground kiddie that bitches whenever someone
>else
>> discovers an "underground" artist, or when an "underground" artist
>gets a
>> little radio play.
>>
>again you tell this kid to fuck off. I dont know why you cant take
>your own good advice.
>
>Because of shit like this people will start to jump ship and this list
>will self destruct.
>I would rather not see this happen.
>Please show some love!
>Peace
>Bri
>
i just like to say that i am underground kid and i prefer underground deep
house and jungle music.. i just said what i liked to say about Moby's new
productions..
Moby is still one of my favourite artists, but i don't like those
directions where he is moving his music. i didn't like animal rights and i
like to score... i am expecting more from his new album "play"   and i hope
that is better than 2 last albums.
i just like to say that you .. that guy who claimed me that i am
"underground kiddie" .. or something like that. you are little bit stupid
when you get angry when i say something about Moby's new directions, that
was just my own opinion. i hope you dont get pissed off..
i like also lot of pop music.. i like artists like dubstar , beastie boys,
pet shop boys and that. but mainly my interrestes are on deep house and
jungle music..
Moby's new production's just sound like "kiddie rave pop" to my ear, it's
kind of awful listen those Moby's new stuff after you have chilled out with
new kevin yost production..
and.. there are no good and no bad music. there are just music.
     -Samu Heinonen-
     [e-mail]-

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Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 18:00:56 +0900
From: AJ Brustein <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #325

Yea, I am in Tokyo now. And I don't know about the techno "scene" but the
music here is much more avaiable than in America. I have picked up so much
stuff that I would have only been able to find on the internet for 5 times the
price. And I am in the process of giving all of my japanese friends Moby so
that I can come back for my junior year in colleg in 2.5 years and have
everyone talking about Moby.... Maybe. But, I don't know Miyazaki, but of
course I know Kyushu. Anyway, you are lucky to have a japanese girlfriend.
    So, is there anyoe actually on thise list from somewhere more exotic than say
Vancouver? Later.
AJ

Android M wrote:
>
> >       So. I got a question.  I was wondering if
> >there are like 35 Slovakian lurkers or something. Or maybe another Moby
> fan in
> >Japan? Or Australia? They speak English there. Anyone? Later.
> >AJ
>
> Well, my girlfriend, also a Moby fan, is from Miyazaki. Maybe you've
> heard of it?  On kyuushu.  Mellow town, relatively speaking.  In fact,
> she's flying home for a one month vacation as I write this.  Are you in
> Tokyo (I thought I remember you saying you were living there now)?
>
> QUESTION FOR THE LIST: how many times have you seen Moby live?  What was
> your favorite incarnation? (ie: disco phase or guitar phase...)
>
> I must say seeing Moby for the first time in 1994 was amazing.
> "Thousand" at the end of the set was stunning, to say the least.
>
> See ya...
>
> --a
>
> np: negativland: a big 10-8 place
>
> ______________________________________________________
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 13:16:24 +0000 (GMT)
From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Goldie

Okay Moby militia, how about Goldie?

TMB

On 3 Feb 99 15:40:56 CST **** <[e-mail]> wrote:

> >>goldie"s saturnz return, a double cd. i guess i'm lucky enough to work
> >>  for
> >>best buy and have friends at rolling stones and tower.
> >>andrew
>
> >  I paid 7 bucks for it used. Despite the media wrestling with it, I
> > thought it was fabulous. Made me even more of a fan. Saying it wasn't
> >DnB is a total piece of crap, seeing as how it sounded enough like it
> >for me.
>
> >  d...
>
> i agree....  Goldie got such a bum rap after this album... in my opinion, it
> was the best album of the year.   (of ANY style of music). i can't believe the
> bad reaction that "digital" got when it was released.  that song is so
> great... not to mention a daring fusion of 2 different styles of music:  rap &
> drum n bass.
>
> Goldie has guts...  one thing that i really admire about him and Metalheadz is
> their refusal to get locked in and held down by trying to fit into the drum n
> bass "scene."  they don't care what everyone else is doing; if they want to
> make a drum n bass song then they will, but if they don't, then they don't.
> they have the courage to do this.
>
> here's a page with all my favorite albums from 1998:  (please excuse the
> non-loading images... my webspace crashed.)
> [ http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~jwsingle/98.htm ]   :)
>
> ____________________________________________________________
>
> Jon
>
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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 13:51:56 +0000 (GMT)
From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) boring

Yes Bri let's have some love and understanding and a bit of
forgiveness and all that shit! Alright I think the
so-called 'history lesson' is over and everyone still wants
to bitch about it and each other. We're all ending up being
hypocrites - so let's just shut-up and try and be nice
(God I hate that word, fucking NICE!).

Let's forget it and start again and try to live in a
peaceful, caring and considerate community, shall we?

Peace,

T.


On Wed, 3 Feb 1999 14:55:16 -0800 (PST) BRIAN HOVEY
<[e-mail]> wrote:

>
>
>
>
>
> ---"M. Rice" <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > >this list has gone far too boring, and i am too bored to read it
> anymore..
> >
> >
> > Then don't.  No one forces anyone to read anything.  Unsubscribe.
> It's not
> > hard.
>
> Your wrong there I am forced to read and recieve a boat load of non
> moby shit on a daily basis and could care less to read it its like
> getting the Globe when I have the Times!!!!!
>
>
> > >i don't really wanna even know your personal moby favourites or
> something
> > >like that. some point for the mails , please.
> >
> > This is a Moby list.  In spite of arguments on the list about what
> is 'on
> > topic,' certainly no one can doubt that personal Moby favorites are on
> > topic.  This is a list of Moby fans talking about Moby and his music.
>
>
> This point I tend to agree with if its moby its here if ya dont want
> to know about moby then i would agree with leaving the list.
>
> > >and other thing is that moby's music is ain't as good anymore as it
> was
> > >back in 92-95.. almost every new produtions are quite awful, i hate
> to say
> > >that, but i think so.
> >
> > Good, think it.  Not everyone will agree.
>
> Now that was a stupid comment <think it....>, its people like you that
> try to silence people not to hear a point of view. Show some maturity
> please unless your 12!!!!
>
> > >personally i have gone more for deep house and stuff like that. I
> just love
> > >that deep & mood chicago house, that is what good music should be.
> i love
> > >kevin yost, mood ii swing, wamdue kids, jori hulkkonen , glenn
> underground
> > >and artists like that. anyone else here who likes too?
> >
> >
> > There is nothing that 'good' music should be.  What defines 'good'
> music is
> > a person's taste.  I think all of your favorite artists are
> worthless shits.
> > Besides, this is a Moby list, not a jori hilkkonen list, not even a
> deep
> > house list.  M-O-B-Y
>
>
> One again we have an opion the doent compute with the shit bird
> attituide of Mr. Fucking Rice, I have a suggestion why not let this
> gentleman express his views with out telling him that every word he
> writes is shit!
> I think the the point that he might be trying to get across is that
> this list has been lacking in content and filled with other mindless
> shit!
> I can now say this because i have tryed and gotten nowhere, so i wait
> for good content.
>
> > >moby's music is too "pop" for me nowdays.
> >
> >
> > You sound like an underground kiddie that bitches whenever someone
> else
> > discovers an "underground" artist, or when an "underground" artist
> gets a
> > little radio play.
> >
> again you tell this kid to fuck off. I dont know why you cant take
> your own good advice.
>
> Because of shit like this people will start to jump ship and this list
> will self destruct.
> I would rather not see this happen.
> Please show some love!
> Peace
> Bri
>
> ==
> "How can I save you, I cant even save myself,
>  ....so just save yourself!!!"
>
>
> _________________________________________________________
> DO YOU YAHOO!?
> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>
>

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Cranfield University
[e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 09:39:39 -0700
From: Damian <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) breath of fresh air

Steve Giles wrote:
>
> One of my sister's friends claims that he has a sampler disc with a 1:30
> snippet of a remix of NIN's Hurt which is credited to Reznor/Bowie/Moby.
> I won't beleive it until I see it. Can anybody shed some light?
> Production credit, maybe, not remix? I've never heard anything about
> this before, but he says the sampler was made to test remix ideas and
> see if they should go ahead and purchase/produce them. He used to work
> for Sony/Jam!.

I haven't heard anything of this, but it would be nice to know if it's
true or not.  The Sony/Jam! (Germany) label is what Jam & Spoon normally
release their material on.  I think it's partly owned by one of them.
Great review of the "Stella" single and Moby's remixes Steve!  Here are
the releases I own:


"Tales From A Danceographic Ocean Remixes":

All tracks written & produced by Jam El Mar & Mark Spoon.

CDS: 1992 BE (R&S: RS 9208CD) [Plain yellow cover with thin stencil
artwork of flowers and butterflies centered on the sleeve]

  06:37  Stella (Barracuda Mix)
  06:22  Stella (Original Mix)
  05:44  Stella (Electro Mix)
  10:47  Stella (Jam & Spoon Mix)
  07:52  Stella (The Lost Bet Mix)
  07:23  My First Fantastic Fist F...
  06:00  Keep on Movin'

 Tracks 1+3 remixed by Moby
 Track 5 remixed by Frank De Wulf


"Stella":

CDS: 1996 BE/AT (R&S: RS 9203CD) [new artwork]

  06:21  Stella (Original Mix)
  06:37  Stella (Barracuda Mix)
  05:43  Stella (Electro Mix)

 Tracks 2+3 remixed by Moby

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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 09:04:08 -0800 (PST)
From: BRIAN HOVEY <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #325

- ---Android M <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> QUESTION FOR THE LIST: how many times have you seen Moby live?  What
was
> your favorite incarnation? (ie: disco phase or guitar phase...)
>

I have seen Moby 6 times. I cant really say which one was my fav. I
love the disco stuff and you can rage to the rock stuff. I have seen
him dj 2 times also and that was cool and all but seeing him perform
and being in a sea of people that love this man and his music is
amazing!!!!
If you get the chance to meet the little guy he is very hummble and
quiet.
till then.......
Peace
Bri
==
"How can I save you, I cant even save myself,
 ....so just save yourself!!!"


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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:27:36 +0000 (GMT)
From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #325

On
>
> ---Android M <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >
> > QUESTION FOR THE LIST: how many times have you seen Moby live?  What
> was
> > your favorite incarnation? (ie: disco phase or guitar phase...)
> >
>
> I've seen him once and preferred his guitar-based stuff.

I also like his ambient from Little Idiot, but not that
keen on THE 'Ambient' album or on all his piano stuff
(piano overkill and done to death before) on EIW evil ninja
remixes. Prefer the red disc to the blue (and that's not
because of political bias!).

I've been spayed, if you haven't noticed, by the way.

T.
>
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Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
[e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:06:12 +0000
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #325

> QUESTION FOR THE LIST: how many times have you seen Moby live?  What was
> your favorite incarnation? (ie: disco phase or guitar phase...)
>
> I must say seeing Moby for the first time in 1994 was amazing.
> "Thousand" at the end of the set was stunning, to say the least.
>


Thousand was the highlight the 1st time I saw him.  Then I saw him in
an inbetween stage and 1st heard 'That when I reach for my Revolver'
Then I saw him in complete guitar mode and I think either 'Come on
Baby' or his kind of country version of 'When it's cold I'd like to
die.'

Ed

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