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mobility-digest       Tuesday, December 1 1998       Volume 01 : Number 283



RE: (mobility) Moby News.
Re: (mobility) Moby News.
Re: (mobility) Used Moby
(mobility) Where did I get the Moby news
(mobility) Turkey sales,business only,hip hop????
Re: (mobility) Where did I get the Moby news
(mobility) used tofu rap nuns
Re: (mobility) Moby News.
Re: (mobility) Moby News.
(mobility) Hip Hop Producers
Re: (mobility) Moby News.
Re: (mobility) Used Moby
(mobility) puffy no-no, honey ag'in
(mobility) Poby Dall and light bulbs
@ Re: (mobility) Comin atcha
Re: (mobility) Poby Dall and light bulbs

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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 22:35:09 -0600
From: "Andrew J. Davies" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby News.

> > am so distrot and furious that that moron "Puffy" will be involved (to
what
> > appears as a great degree) in the new album.  What the hell was Moby
> > thinking?!?!?!
>

I don't think Puffy has ANYTHING to do with Moby's album.  I think the
person who MIXES FOR Puffy is working on Moby's album, not Puffy himself.
(Thank our lucky stars...)

andy
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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 22:10:07 -0700
From: "Emperor Reagan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby News.

>>Moby may not have a U.S. record label at the moment,
>>but his next album is nearing the finish line
>>nonetheless. And surprisingly, he has turned to the
>>hip-hop and R&B community for mixing duties.
>>
>>Michael Patterson (Puff Daddy) and Dallas Austin (TLC)
>>began mixing the not- yet- titled disc on Monday (Nov.
>>9) at Philip Glass' Looking Glass studios in New York.



Isn't Puffy's real name Sean Combs anyway?  I think Michael Patterson just
mixed Puffy's album.  I looked on a fan site and saw no reference to the
name Michael Patterson in the biography.

Either way, I think I'd probably trust Moby's decisions on his music.
Though I don't care for Puffy's rapping, he's proven to be very good on the
producing/marketing end...

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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 21:41:49 -0800
From: "jeff.summers" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Used Moby

Everything and Animal Rights turn up frequently.
Ambient and Score are not too hard either.
Spotted at several locations in the SFV.
At one Wherehouse location, I spotted Everything, Ambient, Animal, Score,
and even the 2cd collected B-sides.

- -----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Monday, November 30, 1998 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: (mobility) Used Moby


>In a message dated 11/30/98 1:10:05 PM Central Standard Time,
>[e-mail] writes:
>
><< I was just curious, has anyone ever
> seen a moby CD album ,single, Vinyl, etc in used sections?  If so, what
> and where? >>
>my local disco go round has two rares, a ar, and i like to score. oh yeah,
and
>everything is wrong.
>

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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 01:28:05 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Where did I get the Moby news

Hi Everyone/Eric.

I got the news from Alt.Music.Moby.

It was posted by the following organisation:

allstar Daily News brought to you by My Music Boulevard for
Tuesday, November 10, 1998

Cheers.

Martin.

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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 03:33:18 -0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Turkey sales,business only,hip hop????

>
> ps-i read an article that said only 1,200 tofurkeys were sold in the us in
> 1995, but 35,000 we sold this time around!

Here a great off topic for all you who hate them and whoever else...
That first figure of 1,200 is ridiculous (so is the 35,000 for that matter)
1,200 turkeys in the whole USA in 1994 would leave 24 turkeys per state for the
whole year. Wow, I guess I knew everyone in my state that bought a turkey that
year!
That figure was not for the USA but more likely for one single grocery store.
And to all you vegans: I'm eating turkey right now....sorry
I'm feeling like provoking you all tonight obviously. Honestly, I'm bored with
the list.
All the off topic stuff is what mailing lists are about, this isn't a business
meeting-
it's a social event....But I get a strong feeling of let's talk business only,
so I
guess I'll just have to keep to myself and save reading posts for when I'm truly
bored
to death.

And now about Moby, I must admit I'm very dissappointed to hear about the hip
hop
producers because I despise hip hop/trip hop/rap/whatever, I'm just not
interested.
I guess Moby is famous for switching genres but until now I liked them all and I
am truly apprehensive to hear this new stuff now. Basically, I'm sad there won't
be
a face shredding new techno album, that's what I would like after all this rock
and
various ambient stuff- some upbeat thumpin techno tracks. Oh well, I'll sit in
the corner.
paul

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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 07:44:21 -0700
From: "Emperor Reagan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Where did I get the Moby news

Just a note - I got a hold of Puffy's cd from a friend and Michael Patterson
is listed as the mixer on several songs and mentioned in the thank you's,
nothing more.


>Hi Everyone/Eric.
>
>I got the news from Alt.Music.Moby.
>
>It was posted by the following organisation:
>
>allstar Daily News brought to you by My Music Boulevard for
>Tuesday, November 10, 1998
>
>Cheers.
>
>Martin.
>

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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 10:05:45 -0500
From: Steve Giles <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) used tofu rap nuns

rfu/paul wrote
>>1,200 turkeys in the whole USA in 1994 would leave 24
>>turkeys per state for the whole year.

These are figures for tofu turkey sales. I read the article, too. I've also
read recently about Amish kids arrested for selling cocaine, and a
neighborhood that's fighting to make sure a nuns' convent doesn't get built
at the end of their block. They say the organ music will lower the property
values.

Regarding those producers, they only produce, they aren't artists. This
won't be Moby's monotonous tribute to a dead rap star. They're just tweaking
sounds for him. Wait until you hear the music to decide on it. The Patterson
guy probably had minimal involvement w/ Puffy and the news/promo people
latched onto that to hype every angle they can.

I picked up the single 12" for Honey yesterday. I was at a rock store
(mostly metal, punk, and hippie music) and they had it priced domestically,
5.99. Nice. It's worth noting that the commercial release opens on the right
side but the promo opens on top. Hopefully I can listen to the Sweet Honey
mix properly now. Oh yeah, somebody bought that AR used and now ILTS is
there.

- -S

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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 10:12:54 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby News.

i have a feeling that the producers were people that worked with puff daddy
and TLC and not puffy and and a membe of TLC..if i do recall, TLC is made up
of three girls and on the post, it had the name of the guy..love.elie

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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 09:24:07 -0600
From: "Brad Caviness" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby News.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Michael Bourke
>I cannot discribe my disconent with Puff Daddy.  Is this the end of Moby?
I
>am so distrot and furious that that moron "Puffy" will be involved (to what
>appears as a great degree) in the new album.  What the hell was Moby
>thinking?!?!?!
>
Sean "Puffy" Combs is having nothing to do with Moby's record. But the guy
who *mixed* puffy's record (and made it all radio friendly and appealing to
the ear) is mixing Moby's new record. This is not all that unusual. If
you'll notice, the single mix of Honey was not done by Moby. It was done by
a Mario Caldato Jr. So, the fact that Mute (or Moby) is forking over the
cash to have this other guy mix the record speaks a fair deal towards their
plans for the record. And it looks like a Top40/Mtv push is in the master
plan.

BSC

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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 09:46:04 PST
From: "Jake M." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Hip Hop Producers

I don't know about you all, but I kind of like the idea of moby being
produced (to some extent) by hip hop/rap producers. He has branched out
to many different genres etc...why not be produced by a hip hop
producer...I think that many of them come up with very good beats...and
ones that are not necessarily what you would think of "hip-hop" beats.
And I think that Moby should collaberate with Chuck D of public
enemy...but that may mean I am bias to some extent. Oh well. I think he
will do what he feels is best.

I wish I could have seen moby's video...I still have not seen one. I've
seen more KLF videos...and they "retired" in '92. Of course here at
school we don't have cable, let alone more than 3 stations.

As for used CD's. I've not seen any moby here in the town I go to school
in, but this town is pretty small 20,000...and the majority of people
listen to World Music or Hippie stuff (i.e. Phish, Greatful Dead). My
home town music stores have quite a bit of used moby...I first
discovered the self-titled at a used store...that was my first moby
album...but that was back when moby only had a few releases (EU, ST, and
Ambient etc).

Anyway, I've written more than I have in probably 6 months and thats not
much...I will try to write more now that school is winding down...

Oh yeah, speaking of the Mobyfication (new word) of the masses, I try to
play as much moby as I can get away with on my radio show...i've
converted a few to moby...its nice to hear others playing moby in their
cars and rooms.

np: Xzibit "40 dayz and 40 nitez" (yeah thats rap).

Jake
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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 12:20:05 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Daniel Redmond)
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby News.

Just as a thought, puff daddy's real name is Sean Combs, not Michael
Patterson.  puffy shouldn't be involved with the new album at
all...<sarcasm>apart from swiping bits and pieces of it to record "his" next
album</sarcasm>

seriously tho...it should be interesting to hear the new album.  Any word on
a release date, or is that still up in the air?

gangsta's left dead roses at his storefront
daniel

np:Pilfers - Yakuza (no, that's a ska band)

>I cannot discribe my disconent with Puff Daddy.  Is this the end of Moby?  I
>am so distrot and furious that that moron "Puffy" will be involved (to what
>appears as a great degree) in the new album.  What the hell was Moby
>thinking?!?!?!

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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 12:20:04 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Daniel Redmond)
Subject: Re: (mobility) Used Moby

>Urrggg.  I saw the AR w/ little idiot cd used for $20 over the summer.
>I didn't buy it though.  I feel dumb.  Is it really worth it? cause I know
>where I
>can get it for about $27 new... should i?

I'd say yes.  AR has a different track format which (i think) works better
than the mainstream AR (less songs tho...more of the harder, faster stuff).
Haven't had much of a chance to listen to Little idiot, tho.(praps on my way
to work?)

cheers
daniel

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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:57:02 -0800 (PST)
From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) puffy no-no, honey ag'in

um, puffy is not producing it. someone who works with him is i guess.

please, no more puffy spams. we all remember that shit. if not, check
the archives. (actually i think it was me who originally brought it up
by saying in my bio that i hated puffy.)

at least, i hope puffy isnt involved.

hey heres a question (oh boy!):
if you could chose any mc in the world to rap on a moby track, who
would it be?

chuck d, kool keith, cypress hill, and, um, da moby boiiizzzzzzzz
(moby in disguise...hee hee i made that one up) are my choices.
and vanilla ice of course.

oh, but i hope he doesnt do this. then he'll get a bad review in
spin!!! (sarcastic dammit!)

aaanyway, um, anyone know where honey was shot? the video i mean?



and like, um, i bought EIW used. at the goodwill stor. on a tape. the
first 45 minutes of EU are on the other side. and i also bought ILTS
used the first week it was out. it has a "promo only return to label"
thing on it (yeah, fat chance...)

i know i asked this before, but does anyone have any old SPINs lying
around? yes, i know they suck, but its research. i guess i could try
and explain but 99.99999% of you at bare minumum care, so im not gonna
waste your tyme or mine.

but if you have any lying around, email me PRIVATELY.

i got the new issue in the mail yesterday. it has the
top cds of the year list. PLASTIKMAN is number 14 or so with
"Consumed". cool, eh? lauryn hill is number 1, massiv attack is 6, air
is 5, etc.

bye!

np:eclectica 2 sampler on the nsoul website, in realaudio (which is
the cottier/ryu track?)
==
"you know how einstein got bad grades as a kid? well mine are
even worse!!!"-late, great calvin (from calvin and hobbes)
>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<




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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 18:23:24 -0500
From: Steve Giles <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Poby Dall and light bulbs

>><sarcasm>apart from swiping bits and pieces of it to
>>record "his" next album</sarcasm>

Sure, he could talk monotone (mysteriously referred to as 'rapping' by his
fans) over 'Honey', and call it 'Money'. Three years from now when he's all
but forgotten he'll be singing, "when my benjamins come back, sometime, I
wish I rapped like that, sometime, ...."

It wasn't supposed to fit the timing, btw. Ok, shoot me, so that wasn't
funny. This is. I read it elsewhere and thought it would be appreciated
here. -S

Q: How many internet mail list subscribers does it take
to change a light bulb?

A: 1,331:
1 to change the light bulb and to post to the mail
list that the light bulb has been changed
14 to share similar experiences of changing light
bulbs and how the light bulb could have been
changed differently.
7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs.
27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about
changing light bulbs.
53 to flame the spell checkers
156 to write to the list administrator complaining about
the light bulb discussion and its inappropriateness
to this mail list.
41 to correct spelling in the spelling/grammar flames.
109 to post that this list is not about light bulbs and
to please take this email exchange to alt.lite.bulb
203 to demand that cross posting to alt.grammar,
alt.spelling and alt.punctuation about changing
light bulbs be stopped.
111 to defend the posting to this list saying that we
are all use light bulbs and therefore the posts
**are** relevant to this mail list.
306 to debate which method of changing light
bulbs is superior, where to buy the best light bulbs,
what brand of light bulbs work best for this
technique, and what brands are faulty.
27 to post URLs where one can see examples of
different light bulbs
14 to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly, and
to post corrected URLs.
3 to post about links they found from the URLs that
are relevant to this list which makes light bulbs
relevant to this list.
33 to concatenate all posts to date, then quote
them including all headers and footers, and then
add "Me Too."
12 to post to the list that they are unsubscribing
because they cannot handle the light bulb controversey.
19 to quote the "Me Too's" to say, "Me Three."
4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ.
1 to propose new alt.change.lite.bulb newsgroup.
47 to say this is just what alt.physic.cold_fusion
was meant for, leave it here.
143 votes for alt.lite.bulb.

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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 18:36:24 -0500
From: n <[e-mail]>
Subject: @ Re: (mobility) Comin atcha

hello aj

AJ Brustein wrote:
>
> Here is some more non Moby, and I would have rather sent it to the Orbital
> list, but since my email sucks and I can't get on it anymore, you guys win.
> Anyway, This Saturday, I have a ticket to go see the Rephlex Allstars. IT says
> that APhex Twin may only be DJing, and tha DMX Crew, Cyclob, and Agent 30 will
> have their own sets, and that RDJ, DJ Grant, and DJ Mike Dred will be DJing
> throuhgout the night. I have never heard any of these people except AFX of
> course, and if anyone could tell me anything about them, that would be great.
> Thanks. Later.
> AJ

Well that's a very nice lineup.  If your music tastes lean at all toward
experimental techno/electronic/whatever, or IDM, and if you have a good
sense of humour(i.e. α la Richard D. James), most of the PA's will
appeal to you.  Can't speak for the DJ's except the Twin.  He's pretty
sick. :)  Where's this event supposed to take place?  Are you somewhere
in the uk?

Is that "@" thing in effect?  I hope so or i wouldna sent this to the
list.  sorry.

    (n)

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Words fail.

    n.

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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 18:49:43 -0500
From: "Joakim" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Poby Dall and light bulbs

>

>Q: How many internet mail list subscribers does it take
>to change a light bulb?
>
>A: 1,331:
>1 to change the light bulb and to post to the mail
>list that the light bulb has been changed
>14 to share similar experiences of changing light
>bulbs and how the light bulb could have been
>changed differently.
>7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs.
>27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about
>changing light bulbs.
>53 to flame the spell checkers
>156 to write to the list administrator complaining about
>the light bulb discussion and its inappropriateness
>to this mail list.
>41 to correct spelling in the spelling/grammar flames.
>109 to post that this list is not about light bulbs and
>to please take this email exchange to alt.lite.bulb
>203 to demand that cross posting to alt.grammar,
>alt.spelling and alt.punctuation about changing
>light bulbs be stopped.
>111 to defend the posting to this list saying that we
>are all use light bulbs and therefore the posts
>**are** relevant to this mail list.
>306 to debate which method of changing light
>bulbs is superior, where to buy the best light bulbs,
>what brand of light bulbs work best for this
>technique, and what brands are faulty.
>27 to post URLs where one can see examples of
>different light bulbs
>14 to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly, and
>to post corrected URLs.
>3 to post about links they found from the URLs that
>are relevant to this list which makes light bulbs
>relevant to this list.
>33 to concatenate all posts to date, then quote
>them including all headers and footers, and then
>add "Me Too."
>12 to post to the list that they are unsubscribing
>because they cannot handle the light bulb controversey.
>19 to quote the "Me Too's" to say, "Me Three."
>4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ.
>1 to propose new alt.change.lite.bulb newsgroup.
>47 to say this is just what alt.physic.cold_fusion
>was meant for, leave it here.
>143 votes for alt.lite.bulb.


pretty damn funny,  quite appropriate for this mailing list too! =)  by the
way, did you make that up or is that from somewhere else?

~niels~

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