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Subject: mobility-digest V1 #197
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mobility-digest Tuesday, August 4 1998 Volume 01 : Number 197
Re: (mobility) help!
Beat It Remix was:(mobility) help!
RE: (mobility) new thread
Re: (mobility) new thread
(mobility) moby on amp again!
(mobility) a request...
Re: (mobility) moby on amp again!
Re: Beat It Remix was:(mobility) help!
Re: (mobility) A Wonderful Moby BPM list
(mobility) Animal Rights
Re: (mobility) A Wonderful Moby BPM list
Re: (mobility) Animal Rights
(mobility) Top 50 techno-house in Amazon
(mobility) go vid
(mobility) Honey - record of the week....
(mobility) something
Re: (mobility) moby on amp again!
(mobility) moby and babies
RE: (mobility) Animal Rights
Re: (mobility) Animal Rights
Re: (mobility) Animal Rights
Re: (mobility) Animal Rights
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Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 00:13:42 -0500
From: Rob Skipworth <rskipwo@comp.uark.edu>
Subject: Re: (mobility) help!
Instead of us all sending these mp3s back and forth to each other... does
anyone know of an easily accessible ftp site? or would anyone being willing
to use their own personal space and post them on a web page for those that
don't know how to use ftp????
- -Rob
urreax6c aka yesti wrote:
> yup, in the us, it was on the 1993 "who is it" cd single. you want me to
> mp3 or vqf it for you?
>
> Beat It (Moby's Sub Mix) 6:11
>
> >Hey... didn't Moby do some "beat it" remix for michael jackson a
> >looong
> >time ago???
>
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Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 03:18:54 -0700
From: Anthony Colorez <colorez@execpc.com>
Subject: Beat It Remix was:(mobility) help!
> yup, in the us, it was on the 1993 "who is it" cd single. you want me to
> mp3 or vqf it for you?Thanks, but I'm going to attempt to find the original first.
Is the remix much different from the original?
I used to love that song when i was 5 or 6!
- -Anthony
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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 09:12:40 -0400
From: Steve Giles <Steve.Giles@digital.com>
Subject: RE: (mobility) new thread
>>steve
>>did you say you had a job?
Sure do, clay!
However, 1 hr. & 40 mins. a day are spent answering a slow telephone
(covering reception breaks, another 1 hour is my lunch break, frequently
spent within the confines of our fine building, and also in addition to that
is whatever free time I can wedge in between the various tasks I assign
myself. But yes I really do work, unless I'm in a bad way. Every once in a
while the coffee machine breaks and I spend a little too much time at my
desk.
now stop picking on me.
Steve
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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 1956 21:16:54 +0000
From: clay <ev2k@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: (mobility) new thread
IN REGARDS to the BPM list site>>>>>>>>>
how many agree that it would be impossible for any of the songs listed
as having 0 or 1 beat per minute?
if you watch or listen to the canon in d major....for instance.....
you can see and hear the piano notes roll across time and really much
faster than maybe even 100 beats per minute>
just because there is no drumbeat doesn't mean the piece doesn't consume
it's own space in time.
i've heard that particular theme used in a house piece and
i believe in a blues traveller number and it certainly moves along in
it's own way>>>>>>>>>>
just as a moby ambient piece could maybe not have drums but
moves along at
at the same pace as if it did have drums>>>>>>>>
in other words if a song is at 120 bpm
that is its speed
take away the drums and it is still at 120 bpms
most of you already know this so please excuse me if this seems boring>>
everything else on the list site was very informative though
and thanks again steve
: )
clay
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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 09:26:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Simpson <techno_gpig@yahoo.com>
Subject: (mobility) moby on amp again!
last night, on amp, they played the go video!
YAYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i gotta say, its fukkin weird. mobys dancin around playin piano and
theres all these weird things floating around too.
and he has hair. he kinda looks like a cross between david bowie like
20 years ago and thom yorke from radiohead. also reminds me of mike
stipe when he had hair.
anyway, how many videos does moby have? i've seen 4 of them:go,
revolver (aka "thats when i realize its over"), jbtheme (which amp
played a few weeks ago), and this is my dream (saw it on the internet
last week).
amp is cool again. i used to think it would totally suck because they
show the credits for the ideos like they normally do on mtv. but this
week they played a whole bunch of new stuff and old stuff they never
played before. like they played praga khan "injected with a poison"!
and they also played videos by bands i never heard of (mocean worker,
anyone? how about swayzak?)
and that money mark video they played was just friggin weird. how does
money mark fit in with "electronica"?
anyway, i also heard that moby was once on the show viva variety on
the south park channel...d'i mean comedy central. does anyone know
about this?
i was listening to modern rock live last nite...squirrell nut zippers
was on (woohoo!) and it was awesome, they were talking about
negativland! the host max tolkoff quoted them and the band was like,
oh yeah, negativland, and one guy said "this is the story of a dog!" i
was howling! awesoem. and they made a simpsons reference too! "you're
gonna make kwazy kwown industries the laughing stock of the season!"
or something like that. whatever. anyway it was funny.
ok bye!!!!!!!!!!!!!
==
"have you ever read 'the boy who cried wolf', bart?"
"i'm halfway through it, i swear!"
>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<
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Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 12:11:32 PDT
From: "Welcometo Myworld" <red5five@hotmail.com>
Subject: (mobility) a request...
pardon the content...
but I was hoping for some info...
I'm planning on visiting Toronto at the end of the month - and I was
wondering if anyone knows of any good places to pick up CD's or clubs to
visit or anything else you might consider a must see...
you can reply to me personally...
thanks
red5five
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Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 18:31:12 -0400
From: Ryu <ryu97@psu.edu>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby on amp again!
>anyway, i also heard that moby was once on the show viva variety on
>the south park channel...d'i mean comedy central. does anyone know
>about this?
yes, i have it on tape.
he played revolver. not very outstanding in my opinion.
not like he plays during his shows....
less nrg...
adios,
ryu
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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 07:30:56 -1000
From: urreax6c@juno.com (urreax6c aka yesti)
Subject: Re: Beat It Remix was:(mobility) help!
its pretty funky, and not that different, but it grooves!
>Is the remix much different from the original?
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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 22:08:34 -0500 (CDT)
From: John Turpin <jct1@Ra.MsState.Edu>
Subject: Re: (mobility) A Wonderful Moby BPM list
>I stumbled in here on accident while searching for "Voodoo Child" +mix on
>Altavista. This is a great BPM list, in ascending order. BPMs for Pet
Shop
>Boys, New Order, Nine Inch Nails, Orbital, 808 State, other electronic /
>dance acts.... a chart for someone's private collection....
>http://www2.msstate.edu/~jct1/cod/discogs/BPM/codsbpms.txt
>http://www2.msstate.edu/~jct1/cod/
>
>I beleive he is/was a list member, John Turpin, because I saw a Thanks
song
>listed in the discography of his.
>
>His personal pages are quite opinionated and very interesting. Anyways, I
>pulled 45 BPM for different Moby songs, and I only pulled for those which
I
>have on vinyl. There's got to be around 100 in there of Moby's.
Please keep in mind that these BPMs are based on me banging on my mouse
button in time with the music. Your milage may vary. If you want to
generate a list like this, go to
<http://wwwrzstud.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de/~un0k/Infinity.html> and find a BPM
counter for your platform.
- --
C The C.O.D. John Turpin
| <jct1@
/ \ Ra.MsState.Edu>
O D <http://www2.msstate.edu/~jct1/cod/>
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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 00:02:44 EDT
From: <Spydercorp@aol.com>
Subject: (mobility) Animal Rights
The first two Moby CDs I got were Animal Rights and Everything is wrong. I got
them both from BMG and so I wasn't worried if they sucked. I listen to Animal
Rights, hated it, and almost threw it and ETIW away. But, yesterday, I was in
Las Vegas and went to the Virgin Megastore and finally found the 2CD Animal
rights. The Little Idiot CD is kind of boring actually, but I listened to it
in the car and usually like sometime faster then. But, I put in the Animal
Rights, and damn, it is really good. Is this one different than the regular
AR? I don't know, but it seems to have instantly grown on me. Later.
AJ
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Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 23:45:19 +0000
From: clay <ev2k@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: (mobility) A Wonderful Moby BPM list
NICE work john!
but are you sure you were only able to bang your mouse once a minute to
the canon?
and how hard should one bang one's mouse in such matters?
: )
clay
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Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 23:47:39 +0000
From: clay <ev2k@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal Rights
> Is this one different than the regular
> AR? I don't know, but it seems to have instantly grown on me. Later.
> AJ
>
what a difference a day makes!
eh folks!?
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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 13:50:51 +0200
From: Jonathan Ruano <kobalt@james.encomix.es>
Subject: (mobility) Top 50 techno-house in Amazon
Hi, Mobydicts:
Today, searching for book in Amazon, I tried the new music section, and
checked how many items they had by Moby. After that, I browsed into
categories, and went to TOP50... In Techno-Dance-DJ, found Moby's "Ambient"
in 34th of the list.
It's funny finding CDs released in 1994,1993 and so..
Selected Ambient Workds, Vol II (AFX), Orbital 2, Fiesta Fatal! (B-Tribe)
and other...
- --
Jonathan Ruano <kobalt@james.encomix.es>
Intercomputer soft, s.a.
Dpto. de Tecnologφa
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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 06:31:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Simpson <techno_gpig@yahoo.com>
Subject: (mobility) go vid
yesterday, when AMP finally played "go", they listed the album as his
self-titled cd, the label as Mute/Elektra (hmmm...) and Moby himself
as the vid director. But if you go to mtv's cheesy amp site at
<http://www.amp.mtv.com>
it lists an (incorrect) playlist, which lists the director as N/A and
the label as "Rhythm King". whats up with that?
and i noticed something...the new Sublime single that modern rawk
radio is playing now (forgot what its called...) well it starts with a
bassline that sounds exactly like the beginninng of Moby's remix of
Prodigy's "Everybody In The Place"....i guess thats more of a
prodigy post than a moby post huh? just in case anyone cares....
and, um, I need a homepage. wheres the best place to get one? (gee,
i'm gonna get a billion different responses to this one ;)
and we really should all schedule a chat together sometime. summer is
rapidly ending! (god i hate saying that...)
if we cant have a mobility party at least we can chat together. thats
almost as good. right?
okay bye.
==
"Where's Maggie? Where's Maggie? I'm not kidding, I can't see,
my retinas have detached again!"--Grampa Simpson
>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<
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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 14:47:06 +0100 (British Summer Time)
From: Tim Beecher <T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk>
Subject: (mobility) Honey - record of the week....
Just taking a break from the lab, where I heard the DJs
Mark and Lard, on Radio 1's afternoon session, declare
Moby's 'honey' as 'record of the week'(well one of 3
records of the week). If anyone hasn't heard it and is
really desperate to before the 24th Aug release, then tune
into BBC Radio 1 this week (2 to 4 pm, British summertime)
- - though this may be a bit difficult if you live in the
U.S.!?
I think it's grown on me now - I really like it,
though I can't say it's my favourite Moby tune!
That's all for now folks,
TiM B.
- ----------------------
Tim Beecher
Cranfield University
T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk
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Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 16:00:33 -0400
From: michael boudreau <mrmecca@earthlink.net>
Subject: (mobility) something
hellloooooo,
i got my mutebank order in yesterday (ordered 'demons/horses' by the way
among other things) and with the package, they gave me 2 'honey'
stickers. it's a pumpkin, as has already been discussed here. i'll tell
you what it says in the back of the sticker:
moby
honey
the new single out 24 august
2 x cd & 12"
featuring mixes by
rollo & sister bliss
aphrodite & mickey finn
moby
westbam & hardy hard
mario caldato jnr.
sharam jey
plus new moby tracks
"micronesia" and "memory gospel"
- ------------------------------------
this may be information everybody knows, but i thought i'd tell you
nonetheless, because i care.
that is all.
&&****&&&&****&&&&****&&&&****&&&****&&&***&&&**&&&**&
__)))__)))___)))___)))__)))___)))__)))__)))__))__))__))_)_)_)_)_))))__))__))__))__)_
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Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 16:46:24 -0400
From: n <shadedblue@home.com>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby on amp again!
hi hi...
Ryu wrote:
>
> >anyway, i also heard that moby was once on the show viva variety
> yes, i have it on tape.
> he played revolver. not very outstanding in my opinion.
> not like he plays during his shows....
> less nrg...
moby on Viva Variety? That's hilarious. That show is the bomb. Ryu,
are you sure it's not worth much? I'd like to see that, just for the
novelty. Hey, i'm on your mailing list Ryu, though under my old email
address. Mail me personally and maybe we can work something out. L8R.
n.
==========================================================
Words fail.
n.
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Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 17:44:41 PDT
From: "Robert Traylor" <auslander11@hotmail.com>
Subject: (mobility) moby and babies
Um.
One odd thing I noticed about moby is that his was the only music that
my daughter would listen to for a long time. She'll listen to just
about anything without complaining now, but for her first few months,
all she would listen to without crying was EIW. Rave's crying? Put on
some moby, instant contentment. I'd assume it's because the music's so
soothing, but she liked Heavy Flow and it's ilk as well. Half the time
we could only get her to sleep with some moby in the CD player.
Hmmm...
Well, the point to this little diatribe is, has anyone else noticed
anything even similar to this? Babies, kids, whatever? I guess there's
just some undercurrent that everyone can dig, even if they can't control
their bodily functions yet.
Hmmm...
Just a thought.
Bob
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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 20:32:23 -0500
From: "Brad Caviness" <bigwig@arkansas.net>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Animal Rights
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Spydercorp@aol.com
> The first two Moby CDs I got were Animal Rights and Everything is
> wrong. I listen to Animal Rights, hated it, and almost threw it and EIW
> away. But, yesterday, I was in Las Vegas and went to the Virgin Megastore
> and finally found the 2CD Animal rights. The Little Idiot CD is kind of
> boring actually, but I listened to it in the car and usually like sometime
> faster then. But, I put in the Animal Rights, and damn, it is really good.
> Is this one different than the regular AR? I don't know, but it seems to
> have instantly grown on me. Later.
>
This is what I've been saying for almost two years now. I think Moby messed
up animal rights by mixing all the rock and ambient stuff on the same disc
for the US release. Separated on to two cds, AR/LI is the yen and yang of
Man's dualistic nature. You've got the loud, nasty, "animalistic" side (and
a nearly perfectly symmetrical side that is as well) balanced by the
spiritual, contemplative virtues man can strive for. A stretch? Maybe. But
as good a take on the record as anyone else has come up with.
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 19:52:14 -0600
From: Damian <damian@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal Rights
Brad Caviness wrote:
>
> This is what I've been saying for almost two years now. I think Moby messed
> up animal rights by mixing all the rock and ambient stuff on the same disc
> for the US release. Separated on to two cds, AR/LI is the yen and yang of
> Man's dualistic nature. You've got the loud, nasty, "animalistic" side (and
> a nearly perfectly symmetrical side that is as well) balanced by the
> spiritual, contemplative virtues man can strive for. A stretch? Maybe. But
> as good a take on the record as anyone else has come up with.
Here, here! I have always favored the UK release over the US release.
A lot of us take pride in the extremes found on EIW and how well they
worked. But I couldn't handle them when it came to the US version of
Animal Rights. The presentation of the two styles on two CD's was
great, i.e. the UK release. I find it interesting that Moby decidedly
favors the US version over the UK version.
Damian
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owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com
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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 22:57:01 -0500 (CDT)
From: Christopher Michael Bourke <cbourke1@bigred.unl.edu>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal Rights
> Here, here! I have always favored the UK release over the US release.
>
> A lot of us take pride in the extremes found on EIW and how well they
> worked. But I couldn't handle them when it came to the US version of
> Animal Rights. The presentation of the two styles on two CD's was
> great, i.e. the UK release. I find it interesting that Moby decidedly
> favors the US version over the UK version.
I think this issue has already been brought up, but I prefer the US
version, for what was discribed as a "roller coaster" of music, an ambient
track or two followed by his hard stuff. I find it much more convenient
to have them on one CD instead of messing with two.
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Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 23:44:57 CDT
From: "Derek Goodwrench" <dgoodwrench@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal Rights
I think it's better to have the two separate CD's. I listen to
them depending on my mood, which varies. Lately, though, I've been
listening to the 'Little Idiot' side, as I find it makes great sex
music.
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