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mobility-digest        Wednesday, June 10 1998        Volume 01 : Number 177



(mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #176
(mobility) let's clear this up
Re: (mobility) let's clear this up
Re: (mobility) mimi "soak"
Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #175
Re: (mobility) mimi "soak"
Re: (mobility) mimi "soak"
Re: (mobility) mimi
(mobility) Moby cd's FS
(mobility) Oops(in reference to my last post)
(mobility) Lamentations from the Carrot Boy
Re: (mobility) Lamentations from the Carrot Boy
(mobility) curse
(mobility) wuz up!!
(mobility) curse
(mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #175

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Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 18:59:25 -0700 (MST)
From: kimberly <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #176

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> From: michael boudreau <[e-mail]>
> Subject: (mobility) love theme
>
> is it me, or does 'love theme' bear quite a resemblance to 'when it's
> cold i'd like to die'?
> listen to that chord progression!
> just thought i'd share that...


> yes, i agree. Also I find that 'Alone' seems to have been the basis
> for a couple of the songs on 'End Of Everything'-
> anyone else see that?
> paul


For a while, my bf though that it was 'Alone'.  He was kind confused when
I told him it was from a disk released like, a year earlier.  :-)
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> This song took me by surprise, too. The same things happened when the
> narration took that twist to me as did to all of you. And then the agitated
> dolphins as part of the music, it was a rough expirience the first time.
> Very powerful.

I too think it's MOBY.  I think he has quite a distinct voice.  I've
never the other people mentioned, but I can say I honestly belive it's
MOBY.  :-)
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> you know, when wyclef jean does a song like that at least he calls it
> a cover. cuz he's not a greedy asswipe like puffy who wants all the
> money, and tries to get as absolute much credit as possible. clef's in
> it for the music, not the money, just like us free music supporters
> are!!! okay maybe not to that extent. well big up to clef cuz he rocks.

Well, not like it matters, but I like PUFFY and Wyclif.  I'm just odd I
guess.  I don't really care what PUFFY's in it for.  If you can dance to
it, isn't that what matters?  I could just be on crack though. :-P


Okay, well, that's about all I have to say about that.  *heh* *heh*

have fun,

kimberly

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Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 23:54:11 -0500 (CDT)
From: Christopher Michael Bourke <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) let's clear this up

On Sun, 24 May 1998, kimberly wrote:

> > Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 18:16:22 -0700
> > From: Dan Legare <[e-mail]>
> > Subject: (mobility) twin freak
> >
> > actually, go was inspired or inspired 'laura palmer's theme'. i think doing
> > anything to the beautiful yet haunting twin peaks theme (with vocals by
> > julee cruise makes it 'falling') would be sacriledge. some things are just
> > meant to be left alone.
>
> Yeah, I've read that before.  I hear that he colaborated with the producer
> of Twin Peaks or something to that effect.  I think it ended up as great
> work on Moby's part though.  It's a very interpretation I think.
>
This is the original thread kim, in it it seems don is onfused about which
inspired which.  And you write that there was some sort of colaboration.
I responded that there was never such colaboration and that Go! was infact
inspired BY Angelo Badalamenti's score, setting Don straight.  Perhaps you
are refering to some on else's response also clearing the matter up, there
was another one.

Everything crystal?

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Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 22:04:41 -0700
From: "Dr. Killpatient" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) let's clear this up

Christopher Michael Bourke wrote:
>
> On Sun, 24 May 1998, kimberly wrote:
>
> > > Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 18:16:22 -0700
> > > From: Dan Legare <[e-mail]>
> > > Subject: (mobility) twin freak
> > >
> > > actually, go was inspired or inspired 'laura palmer's theme'. i think doing
> > > anything to the beautiful yet haunting twin peaks theme (with vocals by
> > > julee cruise makes it 'falling') would be sacriledge. some things are just
> > > meant to be left alone.
> >
> > Yeah, I've read that before.  I hear that he colaborated with the producer
> > of Twin Peaks or something to that effect.  I think it ended up as great
> > work on Moby's part though.  It's a very interpretation I think.
> >
> This is the original thread kim, in it it seems don is onfused about which
> inspired which.  And you write that there was some sort of colaboration.
> I responded that there was never such colaboration and that Go! was infact
> inspired BY Angelo Badalamenti's score, setting Don straight.  Perhaps you
> are refering to some on else's response also clearing the matter up, there
> was another one.
>
> Everything crystal?

Almost. Except that Go! (original version) was written entirely
by Moby with no hint of 'Laura Palmers Theme'. Later, he discovered
that LPT fit quite well mixed with Go! and he added it to the song.
Both were completely original, but separate. Moby takes the credit
for finding that they fit together well though...right???
It's the Evil Ninja Moby....the DJ in him no doubt that realized it.
paul

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Date: Thu, 30 Apr 98 08:39:35 PDT
From: "john-->" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) mimi "soak"

> i just got done listening to the new album from mimi goese called "soak=
."
> it's a bit strange, but definatly good.
> definatly check it out. not techno in any way though...i just love her =

> voice!

 hey there- i just thought i'd add my two cents- i would definitely agree=
 with you xaq- don't mind the date, my comp's screwed up- anyway-  i got =
the album about three weeks ago and i've been listening to it non stop- =
 i know the album was brought up weeks ago on list and that's what made =
me run out and get it- but... the album kicks butt hard core-  all the =
tracks on the album are great- there is a wonderful mix of sounds and sty=
le on the cd-  if you enjoy 'when it's cold i'd like to die' and ' into =
the blue' from "everything is wrong" than you'll really enjoy this album-=
 i love the second track - 'fire and roses'-  by all means if you haven't=
 picked up this album -go out and buy it-  her voice is so beautiful and =
emotional and moving!- get it -> talk to you all soon-

        john--:)
> [xaq]
> "i think a lot, but it never helps me, so i stop.
>             but i really enjoy thinking."
>               Masafumi Sanai-photographer
>
>
>
>

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Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 22:54:52 +1000
From: [e-mail] (RoD)
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #175

"Dr. Killpatient" <[e-mail]>
>> I don't know who it was that said Laura Palmer's theme was inspired
>> by Go!- but I never remember hearing that.

>From: kimberly <[e-mail]>
>I agree.  I don't remember any one saying that 'L.P's theme' was MOBY
>inspired.  I think maybe some misreading happened. As I said, I heard
>something to the effect of what Dr. Killpatient said. :-P
>
>Anyhoo......"Go" is a great song.

BTW 'Go' isnt the only song to sample Laura Palmer's Theme. Its popped up a
few times - usually pretty interesting and stirring (like Go's use of it).

Latest is "Its There in Your Eyes" off 'Hello Bellybutton' by Friendly (a
Sydney project by Andrew Kornweibel). Anyone who sees this CD or the
sampler 'Elements' (mds H2SO4) which also features it - should give it a
listen.

On the whole sampling argument - I get worried by the young idiots who dont
realise the unimaginative sampling (over-sampling) by your Puff Whatsits
and DNA (remember Toms Diner?) is even sampling. They've never heard the
original!

So is the secret of good sampling:
i) finding stuff no-ones ever heard of to loop?
ii) using recognisable stuff sparingly?
or
iii) turning something familiar into something totally new?

I reckon one of the obvious legends of the sample have gone unmentioned
thus far:
Pop Will Eat Itself.
PWEI did all three of the above - though sometimes without great success.

My $0.02

RoD

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Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 11:06:41 -0700
From: Anthony Colorez <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) mimi "soak"

>
>  hey there- i just thought i'd add my two cents- i would definitely agree with you xaq- don't mind the date, my comp's screwed up- anyway-  i
got the album abo

I managed to track down her album too(it wasn't easy), I think it's
*ok*. I was hoping that there would be some type of a collaboration with
Moby, but there isn't. I don't think he's mentioned in the "thank yous"
in the cd jacket either, but the writing is kind of hard to read(those
with the album know what I mean).
Anyway, she does have a beautiful voice. it's rather soothing.
btw, for those interested- the album has a cover of "black hole sun".
- -Anthony

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Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 22:06:28 -0700
From: Rekkit <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) mimi "soak"

At 11:06 AM 6/9/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Anyway, she does have a beautiful voice. it's rather soothing.
>btw, for those interested- the album has a cover of "black hole sun".

Just a couple of useless HMV facts about the album...

- -In the computer she just goes by the name Mimi
- -It says she's the vocalist for Hugo Largo

Anybody heard of these guys?

np: Tribute to Spacemen 3 (and it rocks)

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:35:45 PDT
From: "puRe eNergy" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) mimi

:M

:)h!
Think I may have been lost in the thread there.
What album is being discussed as to the cover of Black Hole Sun,
and who is Mimi?
Is this version accompanied by a string section?
Or is it a bit faster, more tekno?

:P

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:25:46 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Ryan Taylor)
Subject: (mobility) Moby cd's FS

The following person(Mark Weddle, [e-mail]) is selling the
following Moby cd's..Contact him for info:

Moby: Bring Back My Happiness
Moby: That's When I Reach for My Revolver
Moby: Move

Ryan
np:  nothing(JBT single review to come soon)

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:29:42 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Ryan Taylor)
Subject: (mobility) Oops(in reference to my last post)

Just a little side note...I just realized the name of the guy who's selling
the Moby cd's is NOT Mark Weddle..My bad :)

Ryan

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:24:31 -0500
From: Scott Stegenga <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Lamentations from the Carrot Boy

I have a sad announcement to make regarding news that I just received over
lunch today. I'll get over the current state of depression I am in at the
moment, but let me tell you why I'm in this current condition which has left
me in awe.

The Phoenix Festival which was to have happened at Stratford-Upon Avon, has
been cancelled due to poor ticket sales. I was to have attended this
festival during my first trip to the UK this July. No Moby, and about 100+
other bands.

Does this shatter my entire plans for the trip, oh please no. I had
discovered the concert was happening after I had made my plans...now I have
lost something I was looking forward to ALOT.

I'll find something else to do now, but hopefully something musical will
occur in its place.

Thanks to all from thelist who have given me advice on attending festivals,
I guess I'll try next time.
- ---
Scott Steg
"...impeccably bred..."

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 19:46:04 +0000
From: clayEV2k <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Lamentations from the Carrot Boy

SCOTT>

england has clubs up the ying yang and serious ones too>
with true undergound dj's and classics like at renaissance
and ministry of sound so just get out there and have fun>>>>>>>

for all of us!


clay

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 22:58:05 -0400
From: michael boudreau <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) curse

i don't know about any of you, but moby really ought to rap more often.
the rap on recoil's "curse" has got mad flavor.  granted, i wouldn't
want him to do a whole album of it, but he should bust the fresh def
rhymes more often.
i'm wondering. does anyone have the 'underwater' disk that came with
limited versions of EOE? if so, is it good, and worth searching for? i
think i need it.  i hooked up with a used copy of the 'drop a beat'
single. i think i have all the songs, but hey, it's a collector! i also
got lopez's 'emptiness' single.
i also wonder...is dj cake moby or just someone on his trophy label? can
trophy records stuff be ordered?
that is all.
mike (no elaborate signature as of yet)

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 20:13:13 PDT
From: "ron nessel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) wuz up!!

hey wuz up, everybody!!

i am new here, or i have returnedfrom a while ago...call me fruiti
kix...i have been a moby fan for years and i can't wait till the new
album comes out...my most recent pick up has been the soundtrack to
Senseless, with a the blilliant track "graciaso"?!?...i have a list of
moby stuff i need, but i will post it later...any info on when he's
comin' to toronto???

check u all later...

"i am feeling so real"

shout out to dan venema!!email me, dude.

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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 04:41:35 +0100
From: Stuart Adair <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) curse

>i'm wondering. does anyone have the 'underwater' disk that came with
>limited versions of EOE?

i have :)

>if so, is it good, and worth searching for? i
>think i need it.

um, well it's good, but... well put it this way, i prefer hymn
alt.quiet.version to underwater, so if you haven't got it i'd recommend you
look for it over underwater... having said that, that's my (drunken ;)
opinion, so i'd get a few different views on the subject first ;)

~~stu

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 20:49:11 -0700 (MST)
From: kimberly <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #175

> There is a big difference between using loops of sampled music
> and using samples in your music, I think sampling music to use
> in your own music is very un-original, but I love all other types
> of samples. Moby seems to be very fond of diva samples, but I would
> guess that he makes new samples in the studio, instead of ripping
> them off other releases. What would the Orb sound like without any
> samples? Not quite the same thing anymore- samples are fun when they
> are used in a different way than they origianlly were used for.
> But things like Vanilla Ice and MC Hammer, where the loop is actually
> the main melody of the song...they should be considered cover songs
> rather than originals, even with the new lyrics they really owe it
> all the the original song.

I agree.  I once read an article about Trent Reznor (laugh if you will :)
and he was talking about the importance of samples and mainly obscure
ones.  For instance: he was working with Flood and he (Flood) came to him
with a sample of something Trent discribed as 'someone tapping a pie pan'.
Upon listening again and being told what it was (it was a large group of
African kids running), Trent loved it and was taken aback.  He's used
things such as the sounds of cars crashing, toliets flushing, etc as a
(silly anaology coming up folks...:) brush like one of many used in
painting a musical picture.  I think he does very well on 'Broken' with
the samples of toliets and crashing cars.  It's really a pretty damn good
EP, at least I've always though.  :-)

I think MOBY does an equally good, yet very different job.  His use of
vocal samples is original and is almost not like a vocal bit, but like
another brush, if you will, to paint his picture.  And damn, the picture
always speaks for itself and has it's message as well as being beautiful.
:-)




> From: "Brad Caviness" <[e-mail]>
> Subject: RE: Small Word (was: (mobility) Stinkweeds )
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: kimberly
> > I went to Stinkweeds last night for a small show.  The bands were
> > 'Frodus' and 'BlueBird'.
> >
> Sorry for the non-Moby bandwidth, but I have to say, What a small world we
> live in. I just saw Frodus, Bluebird and Bark last sunday night at a "free"
> show in Riverfront Park in Little Rock, Ark. Did they do the thing where
> they both set up to play at once and then traded off playing songs?

Not when I was there. :-)


> I loved
> it when the guy from Bluebird went running around the place with a bullhorn
> screaming: "Frodus Conglomerate International!!" For those of you who don't
> know, those bands are a bunch of emo kids, bands that marry freeform
> melodies, extreme grunge dynamics (alternating soft and loud passages in a
> song) and hardcore intensity.

That's a much more eloquant way of putting that I would have.  :-)

I am totally in love with the singer from Blue Bird!!!!  He is just about
the most gorgeous creature I have laid eyes upon.  And, if I'm not
mistaken, he lives some where here in AZ (where I'm at!!! :).  He gave me
his email!!!  OH well, too bad I can't obsess over him....my boyfriend
would get jealous.  :-P


> I wasn't scared. Agitated, excited, moved beyond words. Seriously, I tracked
> down the import ETYTM single last year when the last round of raves about
> "Blue Light" went through the list, and it instantly became one of my
> favorite cuts. It is a quitessential Moby cut. The spiritual/ecological
> center the techno/rock combo (that has since become one of Moby's
> trademarks) and the perfect balance of the song makes me wonder why he used
> it just for a bside when it probably would have made EIW a better record
> than it already was.


Yeah, it is a fabulous song, but I think it has this misc. feel to it.
There's something about it that just doesn't fit into the mood of
'Everything is Wrong'.  Dunno why, I just feel that way. :-P

thanks for bearing with on the long post....:),

kimberly

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