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mobility-digest          Sunday, May 31 1998          Volume 01 : Number 171



(mobility) Moby: European dates
(mobility) samples
(mobility) Hi there...
Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #163
(mobility) samples, cover art, etc.
Re: (mobility) samples, cover art, etc.
Re: (mobility) samples, cover art, etc.
Re: (mobility) samples, cover art, etc.
(mobility) Re: paul simpson.
Re: (mobility) Re: paul simpson.
Re: (mobility) Re: paul simpson.
Re: (mobility) Re: paul simpson. | PLEASE DON'T REPLY TO THE
(mobility) First Cool Hive Vs. Grasciosa
(mobility) AC Superstar, sampling...
Re: (mobility) AC Superstar, sampling...

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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 11:32:48 +0100
From: [e-mail] (DEF)
Subject: (mobility) Moby: European dates

Moby will be playing the following European dates:

May 29  Rock Im Park            Germany
May 30  Rock Am Ring            Germany
May 31  Pinkpop                     Holland
June 26 Glastonbury             UK
June 27 Nottingham Rock City     UK
June 28 Leeds Breeze '98    UK
July 1  Oporto                      Portugal
July 3  Torhout                    Belgium
July 4  Werchter                  Belgium
July 5  Midtfyns                   Denmark
July 8  Bucharest                 Rumania
July 10 Oslo                         Norway
July 11 Arvika                    Sweden
July 14 Athens                     Rockwave Greece
July 17 Gurten                    Switzerland
July 19 Phoenix                  UK

For the latest European tour news check out www.fwwt.com

Moby will release a new single, "Honey", in August. More details soon.

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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 00:59:00 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) samples

stu ---> good call !  though i've told people about liam's claim before, i had
never actually tried to find it myself -- i usually go sample-hunting, but i
just never did with the Star Wars sample ... sure enough, i just grabbed my
copy of Jilted Generation (still their best), cued up that reverse sample in
"full throttle," put it through my onboard sampler, ran it backwards, and
bingo -- "we're going at full throttle."  my utmost respect goes out to you
... later !      <adam>

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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 17:52:39 +-200
From: Patrik Sahlin <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Hi there...

Ok, I have been on this list for some weeks now, but I thinks it's time for
me to introduce myself for you...

My name is Patrik Sahlin, i'm 17 years old and lives in Falun, Sweden.
When I was in London for some years ago, I bought the "Feeling so real" cd
single. I thought it was a great song, but didn't care much. Then I read
about Moby in a christian magazine. I thought Moby was a really cool guy so
I went down to my record store and bought two cheap promotional records:

Animal Rights and
I like to score

I love both the records (especially AR) and I will buy more albums when I
get the money.

Other music that I really like to listen to: Laibach, KLF, Dance or Die,
Utah Saints, My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult, Leaetherstrip/Klute,
Sisters of Mercy..........

That's me :)

Message to 'Pedersen, Trond Erik' about Moby tour in Europe:
Moby will play at 'Arvika Festivalen' here in Sweden and it sounds like
your are from Norway, so....
Visit http://www.galaxen.se for more information.

parik sahlin - [e-mail]


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Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 09:44:42 -0700
From: Bonnie Williams <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #163

>
> >
> > Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 14:50:04 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
> > Subject: (mobility) go/basement rock/chems
> >
> > hey i was wondering, who here has heard go for the first time the
> > earliest and latest here? i mean, the first time i ever heard go was
> > summer 97 on college radio (really) so i'm probably the one who first
> > heard it latest. if anyone heard it for the first time later than that
> > let us know.
> > but who has heard it the earliest? has anyone heard it in 1990?

i have!!!! sorry so late, i haven't checked my e-mails in years....but,
anyway- that's funny that you should mention that.....
i heard it in 91? 92?.....i was in 6th grade, and my friends brother
had the single.....and my friend and i ALWAYS were making dances up,
and we came across the single and loved it, so we made up our little
dance....and there you go.....
oh, another little thing:
later that year, because we were getting so into dancing and stuff and
never had the music, i went out and bought Best of Techno vol.1, and
made up some dances....but
when i got into moby again (when i was older) i looked back and i found
that
moby was on that all along.....as voodoo child....
so even as a young'in i've had some crazy ties with moby.....el fin

- -kc

"i build each one of my songs out of glass, so you can see me inside
them, i suppose. but you can just leave the image of me in the
background, i guess...and see yr own reflection superimposed"      -ani
>

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Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 18:44:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) samples, cover art, etc.

damn, this is the second time writing this, there was a black out this
morning! technology, tool of the devil...

anyway, i got back from a yankees game. and guess what, they didn't
play moby, they did better! they played Aphex Twin, Mu-Ziq, and Spring
Heel Jack! Yeah! Really! Not! They played the usual crap, Wallflowers,
Puff Daddy, Marky MArk, 2 unlimited. but they did play Soundgarden and
Sublime which was cool. (actually boston is worse...they play "Hangin
Tough" by NKOTB during breaks! and they play like the macarena 7
times! but they didnt play that evil song at yankees game today...)

anyway red sox beat the yankess...HAA-HA! i was rooting for the sox
all along, my dad was like the yanks will win, and i was like what if
they don't? but they will....but they didn't...

anyway i did hear moby! on the way there, through my headphones,
connected to my tape player, in the car!

ok, about samples....like, if you look in billboard magazine, in the
singles charts, like look under any rap song (they all sample
something nowadays) and it lists the people who wrote the song they
sampled under writer credits....that reminds me, like a year ago i
overheard some kids talking to each other, like "NAS has no talent,
look in the cd, like 6 people make up his rhymes! Rakim has talent, he
can freestyle!" of course, NAS samples a lot, and this kid didnt
realize that.

what was the url of that sample page again? i was gonna bookmark it
but the power ran out...

i listened to that prodigy song, "Full Throttle" and yeah that is luke
skywalker backwards i guess. i didnt have time to bring the cd to the
downstairs computer and record the sample on the computer and play it
backwards, but i guess i could do thatlater. anyway, i heard some
rumor somewhere, on this page that lists evry sample orbital used,
that on "Out there Somewhere?" on _In Sides_ that they sample princess
leia saying something. i'm not sure if it's the "What's Wrong?"s or
the "I'll remember if its the last thing i do" or whatever. does
anyone know?
back to prod, btw, on that same album _Music for the jilted gen._, on
"Voodoo People", the opening guitar riff is sampled from the opening
guitar riff in "Very Ape" from Nirvana's _In Utero_. it's true i tell
ya! i also noticed that prodigy only credits like 1 or 2 samples in
their first two cds, but like 20 in FOTL. and they still managed to
get sued by someone over a sample.
anyway, in Jilted Gen, in the liners, it says "thanks to (so and so)
for help with the cinematic samples." it also thanks "Paul Simpson",
really! just look. i told that to Ryu once, he replied "Damn youre
smooth! How'd you manage that, eh?" well if it sez that in my copy and
ryu's copy i bet it would say it in your copy.

speaking of prodigy, does anyone know if prodigy's "Wind It Up!"
single is still available? particularly the American Version, which
has 7 trax? if someone has this i'll send a blank tape for a dub!

okay, now to moby....
well about the ILTS cover art, at first i thought it was terrible and
stupid and pointless and killed the album completely. i didn't like
the album (music included) at all first time i listened to it.

but then, i looked at it again, and i realized, oh my god this is an
enlightenment! a bunch of dots against a white nothingness!
enlightenment!!! this is pure heaven!!!
so i copied the ILTS cover, blew it up 1000times, and put posters up
all over my house. ILTS is the most spiritually uplifting modern art
ever.

"In case you didn't know, I was being sarcastic."-homer
"Well, duh."-Marge

Actually, i really dont care about the ILTS cover art. its not bad, or
good, just is. i guess the theme was, the music will sell itself. or
something. whatever.

i organize my cds alphabetically in a 48-cd rack. of course i have
more than 48 cds so i need a new rack. i'm like halfway to a third
rack even. and i have a little drawer (about 2 shoeboxes size) that
holds tapes, which is overflowing. oh well. but i keep like entire
track listings n stuff on my computer in my room (not this one) cuz
i'm like a perfectionist. i always tell my friends when they make
mixtapes to write down absolutely every song n stuff. i wanna know
what i'm listening to at all times!

and for some unknown reason i'm gonna try to listen to my whole
collection alphabetically, every february. i ended like middle of
March this year.

ok bye i guess.

np:dead silence.
==
"Roly poly fish heads are never seen drinking Capuccinos in
Italian restaurants with Oriental women."
>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<




_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 19:19:58 -0700
From: "Dr. Killpatient" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) samples, cover art, etc.

>
> what was the url of that sample page again? i was gonna bookmark it
> but the power ran out...

http://phobos.astro.uwo.ca/~etittley/top_samples/grouplist.html
>
 on _In Sides_ that they sample princess
> leia saying something. i'm not sure if it's the "What's Wrong?"s or
> the "I'll remember if its the last thing i do" or whatever. does
> anyone know?

It's not princess leia, it was disscused once on the orbital
mailing list- I don't remember what it was, but it was from some
documentary or talk show in the UK.


> okay, now to moby....
> well about the ILTS cover art, at first i thought it was terrible and
> stupid and pointless and killed the album completely. i didn't like
> the album (music included) at all first time i listened to it.
>
> but then, i looked at it again, and i realized, oh my god this is an
> enlightenment! a bunch of dots against a white nothingness!
> enlightenment!!! this is pure heaven!!!

I love it too, I have been a big fan of minimalism since I
grew up with Joy Division and New Order being my favorite groups.
I used to actually buy records that I wasn't sure if they were
New Order or not, except that there was no writing on the covers
and very minimalistic art- and lo and behold they usually were
New Order. Must have driven people crazy not putting any pictures
of themselves or even their name on many early releases like the
Temptation single, Murder, even the first Power, Corruption & lies.
I love their artwrok!!!


> i organize my cds alphabetically in a 48-cd rack. of course i have
> more than 48 cds so i need a new rack. i'm like halfway to a third
> rack even. and i have a little drawer (about 2 shoeboxes size) that
> holds tapes, which is overflowing. oh well. but i keep like entire
> track listings n stuff on my computer in my room (not this one) cuz
> i'm like a perfectionist. i always tell my friends when they make
> mixtapes to write down absolutely every song n stuff. i wanna know
> what i'm listening to at all times!
>
> and for some unknown reason i'm gonna try to listen to my whole
> collection alphabetically, every february. i ended like middle of
> March this year.

I could never do that, it would take me all year!
I used to organize aphabetically, but my CDs always ended up
in little piles all mixed up anyway.
So I have three huge 150 CD racks, organized by artist for all
the artists I have over 5 CDs or so, and the rest is organized
in genre sections (techno, trance, ambient, synth pop, brit rock,
US rock, 80s stuff, gothic, industrial, etc.)
I still have piles of CDs left over that are kind of misc. stuff.
Like 600 CDs or so...ahhhh!
paul

>
> ok bye i guess.
>
> np:dead silence.
> ==
> "Roly poly fish heads are never seen drinking Capuccinos in
> Italian restaurants with Oriental women."
> >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<
>
> _________________________________________________________
> DO YOU YAHOO!?
> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 19:28:06 +0000
From: Your Name <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) samples, cover art, etc.

> but then, i looked at it again, and i realized, oh my god this is an
> enlightenment! a bunch of dots against a white nothingness!
> enlightenment!!! this is pure heaven!!!
> so i copied the ILTS cover, blew it up 1000times, and put posters up
> all over my house. ILTS is the most spiritually uplifting modern art
> ever.

paul.....seriously....gimme some of that whatever-it-is you're on man
cause i do feel i wanna be so cool.....so happy......and your posters
are pretty far out too........!!!!!!!!!
was it something they give out at those ball games?
so once again......who is moby?



clay

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Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 22:42:43 -0500
From: Ade <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) samples, cover art, etc.

>that on "Out there Somewhere?" on _In Sides_ that they sample princess
>leia saying something. i'm not sure if it's the "What's Wrong?"s or
>the "I'll remember if its the last thing i do" or whatever. does
>anyone know?

I was poking around and listening to some stuff on
http://www.netradio.net/clubgroove.  I think it was something by DJ Jezus
Juice (whatever you want to call yourself).  The piece/song/whatever was I
guess a big long sample set to techno background music.  I don't know what
the sample was from but it was all about alien abduction or something.
Anyway, at the end some woman says the "I'll remember if its the last thing
i do" line.  It referred to how she was abducted and people were asking her
a whole lot of questions.  It was very weird.

So clay...where'd you go?  It seems like it had been a long time since
we've heard from you.



.oooO  Oooo.   --Ade.
(   )  (   )
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  \_)  (_/     http://picard.anderson.edu/~adekunle

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Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 23:22:50 +0000
From: Your Name <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: paul simpson.

> So clay...where'd you go?  It seems like it had been a long time since
> we've heard from you.
>

ade!

wellll........I'VE BEEN WATCHING.............and working and things

lotsa newcomers and that makes me glad
and some good discussions it seems without me having to start
the occasional rout>
heh hehe

(we'll just leave that to paul simpson)

:  )

so.....here's to our new roomies
and well
of course hats off to moby
our little idiot genius
wandering in limbo land.........

any word? has he finally got the much-deserved new label deal yet?
it's a pity so much of the world can't know what it's missing......
but screw them....no?
they'd probably want him to do even more spice girls commercials
and ya know what friends.........?
he'd probably do it......love it.......
and laugh.......
and we'd be going duh........
so
what's all this about this group prodigy?
are they moby? or paul are you just a bad boy still????????
not to be confused with bad boy bill!

i guess some things never change.......thank
buddha christ
and
bart



clay
evolution2000


np: massive attack

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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 03:10:42 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: paul simpson.

fuck you all, i hate christians, i hate moby, i hate everything and i want to
be off this fucking e mail list take me the hell off please

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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 00:22:02 -0700
From: "Dr. Killpatient" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: paul simpson.

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> fuck you all, i hate christians, i hate moby, i hate everything and i want to
> be off this fucking e mail list take me the hell off please

you are tempting me....don't tempt me....oh no....
I must see my counselor, before....oh no....
i only wish i had your phone number.....
(beeper reaper)
ok, wait it's fading...OH NO!....ok , ask me in six hours
paul

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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 04:52:35 -0600
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> bla... bla... bla.

This stellar human being has been unsubscribed as requested (please note
the sarcasm).  There is no need to respond or continue this thread...
not on the list anyway.  <grin>

Damian
mailto:[e-mail]
http://www.xmission.com/~damian/mobility.html

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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 05:07:17 -0700
From: "Dr. Killpatient" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) First Cool Hive Vs. Grasciosa

Hmmm....

Listening to EIW for the first time in a year....

Anyone else notice the HUGE similarity between
First Cool Hive and Grasciosa????

First time I noticed it....

paul

p.s. why didn't he put the full version of Let's Go Free???

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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 11:35:07 -0500
From: "Dennis Daniels" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) AC Superstar, sampling...

        It's sad when some no-name worthless Marilyn Manson follower has to
downgrade our wonderful mailing list, isn' it? Just wondering, is there any
MM site on the web that isn't satanic? Satanism is a joke anyway, and ol'
LaVey was a known fraud also. Not to get in a religious discussion, though.
        Speaking of samples, I was thinking, we talked about Puff Daddy a
little while back (remember?) and I don't want to resume it, but even
though Puff samples A LOT, he still is one of the hardest working men in
the music business. He's everywhere, notice that? Produces everything,
remixes ####loads of songs (try to find them). Who is the hardest working
man in music?
        Last question, why has Moby been appearing on all these soundtracks
lately? He's on, like, 107 of them. I got the Senseless soundtrack and I
haven't listened to it all, but that Moby song does sound like "Oil 1".
Wonder what "Oil 2" sounds like? Another observation, The Crystal method is
on a few compilations, and the only song I see is "Busy Child", and it's
the short version. Gets me thinking, really.

     d.
  "Answering the call of all nice, nice clean-cut MM conformists who don't
belong on Moby mailing lists."
      :-)-


- ----------
fuck you all, i hate christians, i hate moby, i hate everything and i want
to
be off this fucking e mail list take me the hell off please

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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 14:11:11 -0400
From: Ryu <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) AC Superstar, sampling...

>Who is the hardest working
>man in music?

not a doubt in my mind that it is O(+>  (aka prince).

shin,
ryu

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