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mobility-digest          Friday, May 22 1998          Volume 01 : Number 163



(mobility) go/basement rock/chems
(mobility) Moby's home, Basement Rock, Chembros.
Re: (mobility) go/basement rock/chems
Re: (mobility) go/basement rock/chems
Re: (mobility) go/basement rock/chems
(mobility) Go! - Twin Peaks
Re: (mobility) Is Moby a Christian?
(mobility) Now I Let Go Of Random Thoughts
Re: (mobility) Now I Let Go Of Random Thoughts
Re: (mobility) Now I Let Go Of Random Thoughts
Re: (mobility) Now I Let Go Of Random Thoughts
Re: (mobility) Now I Let Go Of Random Thoughts
RE: (mobility) Now I Let Go Of Random Thoughts
RE: (mobility) Now I Let Go Of Random Thoughts

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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 14:50:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) go/basement rock/chems

hey i was wondering, who here has heard go for the first time the
earliest and latest here? i mean, the first time i ever heard go was
summer 97 on college radio (really) so i'm probably the one who first
heard it latest. if anyone heard it for the first time later than that
let us know.
but who has heard it the earliest? has anyone heard it in 1990?

i think that someone should buy this "basement rock" thing, just so we
can know what it is. i know people have come across this online a few
times before and wondered "what is this!?!?!?!" but i think someone
should just buy it. maybe its a rare out o print import of unreleased
stuff or something. whatever. we wont know till we find out! with a
name like basement rock, i'd think it would be early recordings or a
bootleg or somehting.

offtopic, but.....
straight from the astralwerks website, it says that the chemical
brothers are planning the release of a mix-cd called "Brothers Gonna
Work It Out" and they are planning a dj tour in america soon. cool.

bye............
np: Fatboy Slim, "rockafeller skank" ( not yet released...to be
released on amp2 cd and fbslim's next cd and a  single....but they
have the song online at astralwerks website now!!)
==
"great, I get to spend a summer with my brain."-bart simpson
>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<



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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 18:17:34 -0400
From: Steve Giles <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Moby's home, Basement Rock, Chembros.

    Hey Ryu, I looked thru the Sonicnet transcript and he says he bought
a loft on Mott street. He also said his mailing address is 333 W. 52nd suite
1003 in nyc/ny. That's probably the record co., tho. Sorry I couldn't help
more. The MAB at univ. of chi said one of the reasons they got him was cuz
the transport was cheap due to small amounts of equip. & people, and only
from NY. So he might be home. The show was last Saturday,  BTW.

    I am leery of online shopping and won't risk wasting money on
Basement Rock. Might be missing out, might be saving time/money.

    The upcoming Chembros album is a DJ mix album featuring their own
music and others. Be interesting to learn their tastes. The title is from a
sample in earlier song from Exit Planet Dust. Brother Gonna Work It Out.
TTYL!

    -Steve Giles


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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 18:09:30 -0700
From: "Dr. Killpatient" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) go/basement rock/chems

Paul Simpson wrote:
>
> hey i was wondering, who here has heard go for the first time the
> earliest and latest here? i mean, the first time i ever heard go was
> summer 97 on college radio (really) so i'm probably the one who first
> heard it latest. if anyone heard it for the first time later than that
> let us know.
> but who has heard it the earliest? has anyone heard it in 1990?

Yeah, I remember hearing it on the radio all the time in 1990,
it was my first Moby experience. My friend's and I all refered
to it at the 'techno Twin Peaks' and it came at a time when
Twin Peaks was at an all time high in popularity.
I never imagined at that time that he was anything but a one
hit wonder who was riding high on Twin Peak's success,
but after 'Cool World' he became my #1 favorite electronic
artist.

I love thinking about old times!!!
paul

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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 22:49:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: Little Drummer Boy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) go/basement rock/chems

On Wed, 20 May 1998, Paul Simpson wrote:

> heard it latest. if anyone heard it for the first time later than that
> let us know.
> but who has heard it the earliest? has anyone heard it in 1990?
>


I don't know about earliest but I first heard go sometime around early
october of 1997, so I think Ive got you beat by a (very) short margin.


            Little Drummer Boy
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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 20:39:04 -0700
From: "Michaela Gerstner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) go/basement rock/chems

hmm... when did i first hear "go".  well, which mix?  i don't think i've
heard the twin peaks one... then again, i may have.  i think i first heard
go late last yr or early this yr.  i'm bad w/ dates, especially when i have
to think back.  :)  so, i guess i'm in the same area as u.. maybe even
behind it.  i really can't say because that requires me to do thinking...
Blessed Be,
Plovious
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From: Little Drummer Boy <[e-mail]>
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Date: Wednesday, May 20, 1998 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: (mobility) go/basement rock/chems


>On Wed, 20 May 1998, Paul Simpson wrote:
>
>> heard it latest. if anyone heard it for the first time later than that
>> let us know.
>> but who has heard it the earliest? has anyone heard it in 1990?
>>
>
>
>I don't know about earliest but I first heard go sometime around early
>october of 1997, so I think Ive got you beat by a (very) short margin.
>
>
> Little Drummer Boy
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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 20:59:13 -0700
From: "Dr. Killpatient" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Go! - Twin Peaks

Michaela Gerstner wrote:
>
> hmm... when did i first hear "go".  well, which mix?  i don't think i've
> heard the twin peaks one... then again, i may have.  i think i first heard
> go late last yr or early this yr.  i'm bad w/ dates, especially when i have
> to think back.  :)  so, i guess i'm in the same area as u.. maybe even
> behind it.  i really can't say because that requires me to do thinking...
> Blessed Be,
> Plovious

There isn't a specific 'twin peaks' version...it's in most of the
versions...it's the slow high-string melody that Moby 'borrowed'
from the Twin Peaks Theme song. It is absent from the version on
"Early Underground", he actually wrote the song first- then later
decided that the Twin Peaks theme fit over it quite well.
It was a club phenomenon comparable in size to the Macarena!
I heard it in every club I went to for a year, and at raves...
paul



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> From: Little Drummer Boy <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
> Date: Wednesday, May 20, 1998 7:50 PM
> Subject: Re: (mobility) go/basement rock/chems
>
> >On Wed, 20 May 1998, Paul Simpson wrote:
> >
> >> heard it latest. if anyone heard it for the first time later than that
> >> let us know.
> >> but who has heard it the earliest? has anyone heard it in 1990?
> >>
> >
> >
> >I don't know about earliest but I first heard go sometime around early
> >october of 1997, so I think Ive got you beat by a (very) short margin.
> >
> >
> > Little Drummer Boy
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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 05:42:27 PDT
From: "Robert Traylor" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Is Moby a Christian?

In message <[e-mail]>,Chilidiba9 <[e-mail]>
writes
>READ THE BIBLE.....ONE MUST NOT IGNORE ANYTHING FROM THE BIBLE...THE
BIBLE IS
>THE BASIS OF TRUTH AND IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH ONE THING, YOU ARE NOT A
>CHRISTIAN....IF YOU TAKE SERIOUSLY THE NEW TESTAMENT BUT NOT THE OLD
>TESTAMENT, YOU ARE NOT A TRUE CHRISTIAN...IT IS BASIC COMMON SENSE...I
HATE
>GETTING INTO RELIGIOUS DISCUSSIONS BECAUSE IT IS SO BROAD AND IS SO
OPEN TO SO
>MANY PEOPLE'S OPINIONS AND BELIEFS...THIS IS MINE..LOVE..ELIE

I'm not even going to attempt to tell anyone what to believe, and if you
want to believe the King James version of the bible over what the Bible
originally said, then that's OK for you.  e.g.: "Thou shalt not suffer a
witch to live" the way that should have been translated from the Hebrew
is "thou shalt not suffer a sorceress to live".  Sound the same?  Well,
what "sorceress" meant back then was "one who poisons" (that's not the
complete definition, but that's the gist of it.  "Magic" had nothing to
do with it.  Back then, magic was called "miracles", and people weren't
killed and persecuted for it, but revered).  Therefore, you can see that
the political atmosphere at the time of the Bible's translation into
English affected the words that were used.  Millions were killed by the
church over just such mis-translations.  I've seen someone who's e-mail
signature contains two quotes from Proverbs, and the second is the
converse of the first! The thing to remember is that the Bible was
written by MEN (not stressing their sex, but their species) not God.  It
was then revised by more.  If you think you're going down to
Waldenbooks, and picking up the word of God as it was handed down to the
disciples, you're wrong.  Believe it if you want, but you're wrong.
Example:  The Hebrews most likely practiced human sacrifice.  Check out
Genesis, when they had to build an altar after crossing a river to help
God pass into new territiory (yet he created the universe?!), there were
twelve stones, one from each tribe.  Most likely each was covered in
blood of one member of the tribes for their spirit to inhabit the stone
and serve as a sentinel.  Don't like that?  Neither did any of the
people who translated the Bible into Latin (possibly these passages
disappeared before that), didn't sound Christian enough.  "Let's chop
'em out!"
My purpose here isn't to tell anyone what to believe, but it is good to
know the truth of the matter.  My main point here is that one can
disagree with "ONE THING" and still be a Christian.  I know I am.
Thanks for listening,

Bob

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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 11:51:54 -0400
From: Steve Giles <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Now I Let Go Of Random Thoughts

    So anyway, I picked up the Move cassette yesterday, now I have
convenient car listening. I'd gotten fed up w/ my friend Tim's poor
selection, which consisted primarily of Happy Hardcore and Euro-NRG type
stuff. It's OK, but the mood is so unchanging in so much of the above
genres. So I broke up the monotony with Move, which conveniently has the
full program on both sides. Tim's friend Tom, who is from Poland (lived in
US for 3 yrs. now) absolutely loved it, every song. I didn't think that The
Rain Falls & The Sky Shudders would be appreciated on clear cool summer
night during a car ride, but he loved it!

    As it turned out Tom is a big fan of Westbam, who did the well-known
FSR mix. I informed him of the Bam Bam Bam! single w/ the Moby remix, which
Damian tells me is mediocre. I may get to hear it w/o buying the single,
I'll offer a  potentially contrasting opinion if this happens.

    Nobody has responded to my questions about the soundtrack songs! I
have no sound on my CPU, so someone tell me about Graciosa! And does anyone
know if other songs besides Oil 1 are on the Species II sndtrk?

    Finally, I'd like some opinions or suggestions on what I should
acquire next: End Of Everything UK, US, Ambient, or Disk? Does anyone want
me to get the Go single with Analog, Nighttime, & Rainforest? It's black w/
white and pink stripe letters on the front that say GO. It's UK/EU. I can
also get BBMH CD or ETYTM US CD for anyone who needs. Or either ITB UK
single. OR the green FSR. Just tryin' to help.

- -Steve

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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 18:01:58 -0700
From: "Dr. Killpatient" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Now I Let Go Of Random Thoughts

>         Nobody has responded to my questions about the soundtrack songs! I
> have no sound on my CPU, so someone tell me about Graciosa!


OK, but it's so hard to use words to describe music, since everyone
sees it a bit differently and feel differently about what it
reminds you of.
But here goes- I think the best way to describe Graciosa is it's
a slower, more electric than electronic Oil 1. I say that because
it seems to have the same sort of moaning female vocal sample over
the song. It lies somewhere between his ambient stuff and his
mellow style rock stuff, it's very soothing.


 And does anyone
> know if other songs besides Oil 1 are on the Species II sndtrk?
>
>         Finally, I'd like some opinions or suggestions on what I should
> acquire next: End Of Everything UK, US, Ambient, or Disk?

I would say EOE UK version!!!!
paul

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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 00:57:54 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Now I Let Go Of Random Thoughts

Is there any difference between the End Of Everything US and UK versions besides
their insert? I noticed different track listings, but they may have only been
in different order. I have the US one, but I wanted to know if there is any
reason to get the UK one as well. Later.
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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 18:08:20 -0700
From: "Dr. Killpatient" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Now I Let Go Of Random Thoughts

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> Is there any difference between the End Of Everything US and UK versions besides
> their insert? I noticed different track listings, but they may have only been
> in different order. I have the US one, but I wanted to know if there is any
> reason to get the UK one as well. Later.
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I beleive DOG HEAVEN (the best song on it) is missing from
the US version...I could be wrong.
I know there is something missing...check the Moby discog!!!
paul

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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 18:12:13 +0000
From: Your Name <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Now I Let Go Of Random Thoughts

>   Finally, I'd like some opinions or suggestions on what I should
> acquire next: End Of Everything UK, US, Ambient, or Disk?

end of everything
uk version
without a doubt
probably moby's most perfect piece
beautiful
deep
everlasting



clay

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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 09:42:42 -0400
From: Steve Giles <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Now I Let Go Of Random Thoughts

EOE UK has Animal Sight, a 7:00 song, while EOE US has Reject, a 18:00 song,
which, I beleive, was also on Little Idiot. Dog Heaven is on both versions.

So are you going to conduct a poll, Paul? Maybe by getting some lurkers to
respond just once will wake them up and show them the joys of mailing list
ACTIVITY. Come on, people. (yes, this means YOU, sitting there reading this
right now.)

I'll resurrect two polls that I received little response for, plus add one
more:

What is your favorite track on Move? (my vote goes to ATINITBL)

What is your favorite mix of Into The Blue? (mine is Spiritual)

What is your favorite era/genre of Moby's work and why?

(I like the Elektra years best so far. Not only has Moby constantly
surprised me, but the sheer emotional power of his later songs strike a
chord deep somewhere in me. Songs like All That I Need Is To Be Loved and
God Moving Over The Face Of The Waters are so very powerful. I like his
earlier work a lot also, but as his skills have matured, his blade has
become sharper. Even when a track is heavy on danceability the sound crashes
through my head like a wave of ecstatic energy, and nobody else I've
listened to can put that much emotion in a dance song. The quiet stuff takes
me somewhere I've never been, and before Elektra his released output was
limited to one genre of music, so we couldn't hear Alone or Novio, or hear
an album called Everything Is Wrong. While I can't pick a specific album or
year as my favorite, I can say that most of the recent music I've enjoyed
immensely, with the exception of James Bond Theme, which I didn't like in
the first place.)

That's my mini-essay for today, now it's your turn to entertain me.
- -Steve

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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 08:58:22 PDT
From: "Robert Traylor" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Now I Let Go Of Random Thoughts

>What is your favorite era/genre of Moby's work and why?

I'd have to say "Animal Rights".  There's still some easy-going type
melody to it, like "Alone", but I love "Heavy Flow" and such.  I love
Moby's music and all, but with the exception of him, I don't really
listen to much ambient-type stuff.  I've never listened to anything as
smooth as "Everything is Wrong" and actually enjoyed it.  So I guess I
dig this new stuff because it's swinging more to my tastes, and yet it's
still Moby, and, "with a name like Moby, it has to be good!"
Now excuse me while I get sued for copyright infringement,

Bob

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