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mobility-digest        Wednesday, May 20 1998        Volume 01 : Number 162



(mobility) JBT at White Sox game
(mobility) christianity
(mobility) Saturday Chicago show
Re: (mobility) Is Moby a Christian?
(mobility) Basement Rock? / Shirts /More Concert info
(mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #161
Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #161
(mobility) Moby News
(mobility) Mime-Version: 1.0
(mobility) moby's home

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Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 23:57:21 -0500
From: "Rasidel Jedro Slika" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) JBT at White Sox game

Helloo....  one thing I forgot to mention - I went to the White Sox game on
Tuesday night, and at the end of the first inning, they played James Bond
theme!  I was very surprised.  And the break was long enough that they
played almost the whole song.  RRR aka delobbo
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 when I arrive has the discotheque, have, it is very smokes, and I am
espere that I slept but I realise that each time I would like small mask
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|| R| Erasure Remixes: http://members.xoom.com/delobbo/index.html
|| P| 242.cure.depeche_MODE.erasure.megadeth.moby.|\|||/|.nitzer_ebb.U2.
|| D| alice_in_chains.kmfdm.marilyn_manson.ministry.new_order.pet_shop_boys


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Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 20:48:03 -0500 (CDT)
From: Daniel Gregory Wilson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) christianity

i hope this discussion doesn't just piss people off and make everyone
polarize their views and go off into opposing corners.  i am not totally
sure what i think of christianity but i definitely don't like being out
in the same camp as Pat Robertson, or Buchanan, Jerry Falwell, the
"Christian" Coalition, or any of this religious politics bullshit.

also about the bible and living out the lists in the bible that is not
what faith is about.  Christ did not preach a religion of do's and
don'ts.  love, tolerance, compassion, and mercy seemed to be at the
forefront of this carpenter that allegedly lived in the first century.  i
have read enough of what moby says that he believes to think that he is
more of a follower of Christ than most people I know and I go to a
supposed "christian" college.  i refuse to associate myself with
Christianity as an institution, I am only at school for an education(and
my parents wanted me here).  I would appreciate any comments, especially
from people who disagree with me.

dan

ps-as for truth there is objective and universal truth with is total
horseshit and then there is existential subjective truth which is what i
strive for

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Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 09:50:04 -0400
From: Steve Giles <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Saturday Chicago show

Here's an approximate set list:

Ah-Ah
Bring Back (tribal / bongos)
Move (Disco Threat)
Paranoid (Black Sabbath)
Wonderbread
Go (?)
Pablo's percussion solo
- -?-
?something from self-titled
Why Can't It Stop?
Stairway To Heaven (jazz / swing)
James Bond Theme  (extended, Moby on guitar)
Next is the E (I Feel It)
Feeling So Real

I'm missing something here, but I'm not sure what. Somebody threw a taco on
stage and Moby gave it back saying, "Thank you very much but I've been a
vegan for 12 years and I can't eat this."  He also said "Here's a nice, slow
quiet love song, so if you're he re with someone special to you or maybe
just someone you've just met get together and dance to this one and tell
your loved one how much you'd love to have anal sex with them." Or something
very similar to that, anyway. It was a great show, the weather was
beautiful, and I had lots of fun. I got lucky getting in, lots of
non-University people were watching from outside the fence. I pretty much
just took a train downtown and asked for directions several times. I left
late so I missed Sonic Youth (who later played at the Riviera for a open to
public show) I had to got early to get my train but I saw the beginning
portion of Busta Rhymes, a very entertaining goofball.

    On a side note, my record store pulled a copy of Next Is The E out
of nowhere, which just very recently made it to the shelf. It was kind of
battered, and looked like it had seen many stockroom days. I wonder what
else they got hiding in the back room? I had everything except for the
Victory mix, which is quite nifty.
    I gotta stop now, Steve Giles

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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 17:51:22 +0100
From: "Mark Reed," <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Is Moby a Christian?

In message <[e-mail]>, Chilidiba9 <[e-mail]>
writes
>READ THE BIBLE.....ONE MUST NOT IGNORE ANYTHING FROM THE BIBLE...THE BIBLE IS
>THE BASIS OF TRUTH AND IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH ONE THING, YOU ARE NOT A
>CHRISTIAN....IF YOU TAKE SERIOUSLY THE NEW TESTAMENT BUT NOT THE OLD
>TESTAMENT, YOU ARE NOT A TRUE CHRISTIAN...IT IS BASIC COMMON SENSE...I HATE
>GETTING INTO RELIGIOUS DISCUSSIONS BECAUSE IT IS SO BROAD AND IS SO OPEN TO SO
>MANY PEOPLE'S OPINIONS AND BELIEFS...THIS IS MINE..LOVE..ELIE

I think Moby's position on the bible and organised religion are totally
clear. he is religious but anyone who reads the sleevenotes to AR should
know he detests organised religion in teh same manner as I do. The bible
was written over 200 years after the events depicted within - there is
bound to be a distortion of events. interetsingly enough, a Papal
commision also stated that it rewrote the bible entirely to 'pull the
paty line' (possibly up to)  a few hundred years ago in fact.

My opinion is that the general spiritual beliefs of Christianity are
sound but that the Bible and Organsied Religion are evil methods of
thought and power control.. teaching us to accept a substandard and
unfair world in the promise of a better paradise after we die... not a
fair trade, especially as there is no proof that this promised land in
fact exists.
- --
Mark Reed,

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Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 15:43:04 -0400
From: Steve Giles <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Basement Rock? / Shirts /More Concert info

    At, the concert there were shirts for sale, as delobbo mentioned. I
wanted the white t-shirt with blue old logo and blue collor / blue sleeve
trim, but they only had medium, and I like big. I got the same one as RRR,
with the Red 'n' Blue. I don't know yet what I'll do w/ the free tank top,
it's too small for me. Maybe put it on my sparsely decorated walls.  :)  I
hadn't noticed, but my friend John said that more people came down to the
floor area w/ the fountain (closest to the stage) when Moby had his guitar
in hand. Personally, I would've liked to hear more AR material. Moby didn't
have any walls or speaker tower to bouce off of, so he had to settle for
jumping on his keyboard until it collapsed.  :) He repeated his love
refrains, especially "Love lets you feel it".  He lipsynced to the ETYTM
lyrics when he was playing keyboard. (they aren't the EIW lyrics, they're
the EeeeeeevertIiiiime you TOUCH... ME! ones) What mix is this? I have it
somewhere on CD, just haven't had a chance to find it. Maybe EIWRMX2CD? As
delobbo said, it was simalar to the House Of Blues show, just outside, and
no Thousand at the end. (was still light out) Oh yeah, and in case you care,
they were playing Oil 1 quietly before Moby's set began.

    I realize this question has been asked, but has it been answered?
What is Basement Rock? I saw it at Rockhouse, an on-line music
catalogue/store. I haven't seen EIW w/ UW on-line, or the COB ltd. 2cd. 'tis
a shame for me. The very same store that had Basement Rock also listed a
BBMH w/ only 4 tracks, but that may be vinyl. To my knowledge there is  no
CD like that, and it's not in the discog.

If anyone wants to trade the medium tank top w/ old Moby logo (blue) for a
CD, or something, let me know and we'll talk. (private e-mail, plz)

I don't have sound capability on my CPU, could someone tell me about
Graciosa and the Senseless sndtrk? I saw the Species II original score
soundtrack, but not the cool one with Oil 1. Are other Moby songs going to
be on that sndtrk?

Enough mumbo-jumbo hoodoo nonsense from my wacky silly self for now. -Steve

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Date: 18 May 1998 17:06:43 -0500
From: "April Kilduff" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #161

                                                                   5/18/98
              RE>mobility-digest V1 #161                            5:00 PM



I dont like the "rebel youth" cliche that clothes tm/records companies
sell us everywhere you look at.


i'm curious about this statement. do you really think that it's companies who
are fueling this so-called cliche or actually a valid lifestage that a large
number of people a certain age tend to go through on the way to adulthood.
rebellion seems pretty natural and not an artificial corporate creation...


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Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 16:19:14 +0000
From: Your Name <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #161

> i'm curious about this statement. do you really think that it's companies who
> are fueling this so-called cliche or actually a valid lifestage that a large
> number of people a certain age tend to go through on the way to adulthood.
> rebellion seems pretty natural and not an artificial corporate creation...
>

I would definitely say it's both>>>>>
some blunted young men with a silk-screen machine wanting to make money
so they can chill and
have the phat shit
and be valid and all that is really more of the same.......
but at least it looks cool and some good ideas come out of it and
well......
as politicians and yuppie bankers try to waer casualk surf skate threads
and shit
it'll be the truly rad that take to clothes that are fashionable in a
very different way
ONCE AGAIN
round and round we go!!!!!!!!!!


PLOV......thanks for my bracelets

i love them !!!!!!!


everybody..........stay tight and stay cool
whatever that means


and hi damian
:  )


clay

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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 13:47:25 -0400
From: Steve Giles <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Moby News

    Moby will be remixing "Umbabarauma" for Soulfly, a new band of Max
Cavalera's, formerly of Sepultura. He is doing it for free and hopes the
favor will be returned. Moby had mentioned a desire to remix Sepultura
during his CMJ speech last year.
    There's a nice big cache of Moby news dating from late '96 to
present on this site, if you're interested. There are stories about the
indie film Porno, Moby on stage w/ the M.M. Bosstones, CMJ speech, big top
festival, Clash tribute cover, and some other stuff including a negative
review of ILTS. Just use search and enter Moby.


www1.rocktropolis.com

- -Steve Giles

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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 14:42:29 -0500
From: Ade <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Mime-Version: 1.0

About 4 years ago I bought a compilation cassette of techno/rave music
called "Motion Factory".  I listened to it intermittently for the first few
months, but since then it had been long forgotten.  I was looking in the
back of my car today, which is a formidable pit of cluttered junk, and saw
the cassette once again.  And to my awe I noticed that the second track was
"Electricity", a song by Moby himself.  I didn't think I'd ever heard
anything by Moby until 2 years ago, but all along I had an album with a
song of his on it!  The song isn't one of the best I've heard, but I was
happy to rediscover it.  I just thought I'd share this experience with all
of you.

The album also has songs by Zero, Brand New Language, Eric Champion, Jet
Circus, Under Midnight and Code of Ethics.

Have a good day.

np: Dr. Onionskin, "Split Pea Soup".  (It's jazz w/ a techno/hip hop twist).


.oooO  Oooo.   --Ade.
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  \_)  (_/     http://picard.anderson.edu/~adekunle

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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 17:06:48 -0400
From: Ryu <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) moby's home

hello all,
   i'm going to nyc for the next two days,
and would like to perhaps run into moby somehow.
does anyone know the general part of the city
that he lives in?  i heard he lived in grenwhich village,
but am not certain.

thanks in advance,

ryu

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