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mobility-digest         Thursday, May 14 1998         Volume 01 : Number 160



RE: (mobility) Is Moby a Christian?
Re: (mobility) Is Moby a Christian?
(mobility) moby, the musician
RE: (mobility) moby, the musician
Re: (mobility) Re: mobility t-shirts
Re: (mobility) Re: mobility t-shirts
Re: (mobility) Re: mobility t-shirts
RE: (mobility) Is Moby a Christian?
Re: (mobility) Re: mobility t-shirts
RE: (mobility) Is Moby a Christian?
(mobility) eco-covers
Re: (mobility) moby, the musician
Re: (mobility) Re: mobility t-shirts
Re: (mobility) Is Moby a Christian?
Re: (mobility) moby, the musician
Re: (mobility) Is Moby a Christian?
Re: (mobility) Is Moby a Christian?

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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 13:28:11 -0400
From: Steve Giles <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Is Moby a Christian?

>yes, that is what it says IN THE BIBLE.  it says that it was written
>by those inspired by god.  but remember...david koresh was inspired
>by god.  jim jones was inspired by god.  adolf hitler was inspired by
god
>etc etc etc.

I like this point quite a bit, well spoken.

>this list is jumpin'!  i love it!!!!

Yeah, it's nice to see this place alive after that slump. Thanks for
getting us started, Tim Beecher. I've tried to do this myself, but
sometimes it takes a debate everyone can sink their teeth into to make
it work.

Ryu, please send the address and total cost for Power Made Flesh to my
e-mail. When you get the check (who should I make it out to?) send it
along. If it isn't the one with your Unloved Symphony, cover, which is?
I'll check your page if I get time, but it's been hectic here at work.

Later! Steve

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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 18:59:03 +0100 (British Summer Time)
From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Is Moby a Christian?

yes, that is what it says IN THE BIBLE.  it says that it was written
by those inspired by god.  but remember...david koresh was inspired
by god.  jim jones was inspired by god.  adolf hitler was inspired by god
etc etc etc.  it is easy to

I'm not sure where the Bible says it's inspired by God -
I've just 'heard' it is, through those who claim to study
it and live by it. Well, the above mentioned were obviously
complete nutters, they had different views from each other,
their philosophies didn't really stand the test of time and
I don't think they wrote anything quite like any books of
the Bible. I suppose these Biblical prophets and 'God
inpired' people must have been pretty 'Godly' so what they
wrote couldn't really be made up by humans and what they
said wouldn't have borne 'bad fruit'?

But it's easy for nutters today to take phrases from the
'good book', out of context and apply it to their own crazy
agenda. Maybe it's worth looking into/studying certain
scriptures in context and testing it to see whether there's
any truth in it? Difficult.

Unfortunately, those who claim to follow 'the word' tend
not to be good examples - maybe that's the human
imperfection? Although I have met some Christians who
really do live it and they seem to encounter God in a very
deep and special way through these scriptures, aswell as
affecting those around them in a positive way. So maybe
there is something in it? I think it's probably more of a
subjective experience for some, rather than objective.
Probably that personal experience of God is what counts
more than anything?

Heavy handed
tactics have not succeeded and will not, nor are they the method of
Christ. Education, and strong family relations may help a parent teach

Too right, Steve mate! No one likes to be told what to do,
or else... especially if you're already grown up and free
from parental guidance. So naturally you tell that person
to piss off! I certainly don't think it's the way to win
converts and yet these blind bigots still go out with the
same tactics! The attitude of the religious, in general to
gays, etc are well out of order and hypocritical. I don't
think they would 'choose to be gay'(as so many ignorant
people say)judging by the way they've been persecuted! As
if they could suddenly choose to start fancying the
opposite sex!

If we keep going on like this we might even get an angelic
visitation!? (half joking, of course!) The word, according
to mobility......



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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 12:19:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) moby, the musician

personally, i dont care too much about mobys' religiona nd stuff like
that. the main reason i like him is his music. so i really dont care
about all this discussion, unfortuantely.

i mean, talk about all this all you want, its not off-topic, chances
are ill just ignore you. sorry.
theres my 1.98623759 cents (my pennys are a little chipped!! i always
wanted to say that...)

AAAAAnyway, so what do you all think about that mimi stuff i said?
isn't anyone interested in mimi goese anymore, or did her album come
out 2 years too late?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAnyway, does anybody know anything about moby's
pseudonyms "Mario Sorrenti" or "Roberto Sorrenti"? what kind of music
does he do under these names? and i also heard hes recorded country
music (yukk!) he recorded an EP of country and it SUCKED, the rawk
station djs said. well moby doing country probly would suck. of course
i h8 all country so who cares.

or is sorrenti his country name? or maybe his speed polka name????????
nahhhhhh.......

okay bye peeps.

np:Bleeding Gums Murphy, "Sax At The Beach" (i got my copy before he
died, and before Bart did, so i didn't have to pay $500! i had to pay
$0.50 cuz i found it at the Goodwill store, where i found EIW!!!)
==
The hills are alive with the sound of...MU-ZIQ!!!!
BRACE YOURSELF
>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<


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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 15:40:53 -0400
From: Steve Giles <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) moby, the musician

>AAAAAnyway, so what do you all think about that mimi stuff i said?
>isn't anyone interested in mimi goese anymore, or did her album come
>out 2 years too late?

I don't think anyone had anything to say about Mimi except Hmmm.... You
said she had a Bjork -like sound to here tunes? I am interested, but I
really don't have comments until I hear something....

>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAnyway, does anybody know anything about moby's
>pseudonyms "Mario Sorrenti" or "Roberto Sorrenti"? what kind of music

He also uses 'Julie Sorrenti'.

Why don't we start a thread you like? Got any ideas? If you don't do a
poll. I ried to t a what's your favorite mix of this song type thing,
but the response was low. Yes, I talking to all you lurkers out there?
See this? Respond to our polls, if nothing else. Thanks? So whatcha say,
Paul?

- -Steve


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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 10:09:00 +0200
From: "Pedersen, Trond Erik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility t-shirts

Let's forget about the MacDonalds logo, personallt I hate them.

Let's try to make a Mobility logo just like the moby or mute logo.
Like the one with all the letters looking like one.
That had been cool.

bye

T.

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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 01:35:08 -0700
From: "Dr.Killpatient" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility t-shirts

Pedersen, Trond Erik wrote:
>
> Let's forget about the MacDonalds logo, personallt I hate them.
>
> Let's try to make a Mobility logo just like the moby or mute logo.
> Like the one with all the letters looking like one.
> That had been cool.
>
> bye
>
> T.

I agree, especially with Moby being vegan and all...
and how about STAFF on the back!
paul

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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 07:21:49 +0000
From: Your Name <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility t-shirts

WELL........
it was kind of a joke
anyway

like over 200 served!
tisk tisk


just make a shirt
but i wouldn't copy
moby's logo as that would be a bit
cheesy as well......
no?


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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 15:24:47 +0100 (British Summer Time)
From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Is Moby a Christian?

If people choose to ignore this topic, then it doesn't
bother me - as long as the topic doesn't bother too many
others? Personally, I'd much rather discuss God and the
meaning of life than the limited subject on who's released
what track on what label, all the time. Moby's music is
great and everything, but there's more to Moby than his
music and more to life than just....dare I say it!?....
Moby. This is all about Moby, so I suppose we should stick
to issues related to him and his beliefs are obviously
an integral part of what he and his music is about!? But no
one should be forced to accept or discuss his beliefs and
likewise with his or other people's music.

Cheers people!

TiM B.




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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 15:37:36 +0100 (British Summer Time)
From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility t-shirts

WELL........
it was kind of a joke
anyway

like over 200 served!
tisk tisk

i KIND OF THOUGHT SO, BUT i WAS JUST CHECKING.....

just make a shirt
but i wouldn't copy
moby's logo as that would be a bit
cheesy as well......
no?

I suppose it would be better to have a more original
design. The Moby logo can be seen on some of the Moby
t-shirts got through mail order anyway.

- -TiM B.


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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 13:04:23 -0500
From: Ade <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Is Moby a Christian?

>If people choose to ignore this topic, then it doesn't
>bother me - as long as the topic doesn't bother too many
>others? Personally, I'd much rather discuss God and the
>meaning of life than the limited subject on who's released
>what track on what label, all the time. Moby's music is
>great and everything, but there's more to Moby than his
>music and more to life than just....dare I say it!?....
>Moby. This is all about Moby, so I suppose we should stick
>to issues related to him and his beliefs are obviously
>an integral part of what he and his music is about!?

I don't mind the conversation either.  I like it when we get "off topic".
Actually, what intrigues me a lot about Moby is his beliefs.  Those beliefs
have had a lot of influence on me, and that's why I respect Moby so much.
I love his music too, but there's a lot of other great music out there.
Moby is pretty unique because of who Moby is.  (I don't know if this had
any relevance, but...)


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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 18:28:50 -0400
From: John Tice <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) eco-covers

Did anyone else ever wonder why Moby doesn't put his cds out in paper
covers, like Pearl Jam, for example?  I mean, I know Move and things like
the Feeling So Real Mixes have covers made of paper, but EIW, AR, ILTS, and
most of the rest all come in plastic sleeves.  I don't know, I'd just expect
Moby to go paper, since that's supposed to be better ecologically, right?
Or does someone know something I don't?
                                                                Just wondering,
                                                                Andrew



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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 16:33:16 +0000
From: Your Name <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby, the musician

> AAAAAnyway, so what do you all think about that mimi stuff i said?
> isn't anyone interested in mimi goese anymore, or did her album come
> out 2 years too late?
>

PAUL!!!!!

thanks for the mimi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! stuff as your research
dedication nuttiness and uncaring attitudes towards our banal
discussions of the
blah blah of
blah>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
HOweveR
i Do
believe THinK in god........
(but that is not why i listen to moby.........FOR SUUUUUURE)
i'm not sure god is to be found in the bible...reader's digest
or the bank of god
but he is in all of us as we ask
what does god say?

anarchy
can never work as a system nor was it defined to>>>>>>

someone has to deliver the milk...the babies.....
and the moby cd's
that takes cooperation and POSTIVE narchists will cooperate
not for money but just because it works
but really i am not an anarchist more than i am a taxpayer

but anarchy MUST exist as a personal way of viewing things>>>>>>>
let each person decide for themselves what they believe
without the encouragement of a gun or jail-time or loss of job.......

anarchy is not anarchy
if it is imposed upon somebody
AND
anarchy has NEVER resulted in a totalitarian regime

chaos disorder greed hate and religious bigotry have
created
many totalitarian human disaters in our time

and i will ALWAYS defend my right AGAINST those who say it is time
for
god or methuslah
or
godzilla
to clean up this damned fine mess we created
(with a lil help from pops)


ain't we all just a little nutty?
but alas......
let us bow our heads
shut up
AND
put some music on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
we are alive

clay
ev2k

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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 19:41:34 -0400
From: jesse hill <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility t-shirts

At 03:37 PM 5/14/98 +0100, you wrote:
>
>WELL........
>it was kind of a joke
>anyway
>
>like over 200 served!
>tisk tisk
>
>i KIND OF THOUGHT SO, BUT i WAS JUST CHECKING.....
>
>just make a shirt
>but i wouldn't copy
>moby's logo as that would be a bit
>cheesy as well......
>no?
>
>I suppose it would be better to have a more original
>design. The Moby logo can be seen on some of the Moby
>t-shirts got through mail order anyway.
>
>-TiM B.
>

If anyone is interested i would be willing to make the shirts.  of course
they would cost around $10.00
if you are interested email me at [e-mail]

                Thanks,
                Boy Faley


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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 18:09:24 +0000
From: Your Name <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Is Moby a Christian?

> I don't mind the conversation either.  I like it when we get "off topic".

I LIKE STAYING ON THE TOPIC>>>>>>>>
Of moby and god



yah buddy



cheers and jeers
and maybe a beer


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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 16:41:02 -0700
From: "Michaela Gerstner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby, the musician

>but he is in all of us as we ask
>what does god say?
>
this reminds me of the common practice among native americans with their art
work.  most tribes do not draw a face on a person in their artwork,
especially w/ their god figures, because the Creator is in you.  there's the
belief among many Pagan peoples that when we were created, the God/dess put
a little bit of themselves in us.  so, we speak for God/dess.  i think this
is extremely beautiful and true.
Blessed Be,
Plovious
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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 16:37:13 -0700
From: "Michaela Gerstner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Is Moby a Christian?

well.. i also have no problem with this topic.  actually, i love talking
about this stuff, but i've been too swamped in my mind to even think of
anything to say!  my mind is constantly cluttered.. and i'm afraid it will
always be.  i've been enjoying reading the posts lately, though.. nice to
see intellectual minds out there.  and yes, there is more to life than moby.
moby just brightens it up a little more... for me, at least.  anyways,
that's the end of my rant.
Blessed Be,
Plovious
http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Vines/3589/

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From: Tim Beecher <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Thursday, May 14, 1998 7:27 AM
Subject: RE: (mobility) Is Moby a Christian?


>If people choose to ignore this topic, then it doesn't
>bother me - as long as the topic doesn't bother too many
>others? Personally, I'd much rather discuss God and the
>meaning of life than the limited subject on who's released
>what track on what label, all the time. Moby's music is
>great and everything, but there's more to Moby than his
>music and more to life than just....dare I say it!?....
>Moby. This is all about Moby, so I suppose we should stick
>to issues related to him and his beliefs are obviously
>an integral part of what he and his music is about!? But no
>one should be forced to accept or discuss his beliefs and
>likewise with his or other people's music.
>
>Cheers people!
>
>TiM B.
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 21:26:43 +0000
From: Your Name <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Is Moby a Christian?

>  nice to
> see intellectual minds out there.

WHERE?

and yes, there is more to life than moby.
LIKEWHAT?

> moby just brightens it up a little more... for me, at least.

AND          HOW?

anyways,
> that's the end of my rant.
BUT WHY?

> Blessed Be,
> Plovious


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