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mobility-digest        Tuesday, April 28 1998        Volume 01 : Number 148



Re: (mobility) Techno (really long rant so get comfy)
Re: (mobility) Techno (really long rant so get comfy)
Re: (mobility) Techno (really long rant so get comfy)
Re: (mobility) Moby info(new album new record deal)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: (mobility) Moby info(new album new record deal)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: (mobility) Techno
Re: (mobility) Techno
Re: (mobility) syracuse
Re: (mobility) Techno (really long rant so get comfy)
Re: (mobility) Techno
(mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #147
(mobility) Stella / Monday
Re: (mobility) Techno
(mobility) mobility community
RE: (mobility) mobility community

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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 1956 08:39:34 +0000
From: Your Name <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Techno (really long rant so get comfy)

> however! i've stopped looking at mags like mixmag. i used to think that
> the club scene was ok and would be fun to experiance, but i've since
> changed my mind. mixmag makes me vomit. trendy wankers flouncing around
> in cock socks or see-though shirts 15 sizes to small is not something i
> want to look at, much less dance next to...

XAQ!

i'm surprised you won't even look at a mix-mag!
i mean i could do without the fashion spreads of spaced-out neutered
kids and all the tongue-wavers
and shit but
where else ya gonna get a decent review on lunatic calm, terry francis,
mocean worker and a million other music makers
besides mix-mag  urb  dj and a dozen other indie zines>>>>>>>>

i know how it is to feel we are up against incredible odds as we spin
our wheels putting out what love
we can through our meager means
small parties raves cds tapes>>>>>>>>>>
and half the time most people respond with a huh?
are you moby?
hey man....i'm into crystal method.....they rock!!!!!

and i know what it means to rage
rave rant
and generally go ballistic>

but all we can do is spread love
give love
and when we're real lucky
even make a little.............

btw
i got your tape today
and it IS mobyish in places
and after just hearing side one
i'd have to say it was pretty damned good!!!!!!!

some of the stuff just creeps up on you>>>>>>>


but hey.....
it's okay
and if it ain't
well....it's still okay


can't wait to hear side 2

clay
evolution2000

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Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 23:19:08 -0500
From: Ade <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Techno (really long rant so get comfy)

>listen to music, loudly, too loud to talk over, just dance. dance
>alone in your room. no one is looking...

Amen.  It's one of my favorite pasttimes.  On special days I dance naked,
but I'm sure noone wanted to hear that.

Speaking of underground raves and all that...I don't know where any of you
are from, but if you have the scoop on underground rave scenes in the
Indianapolis area can you e-mail you email me privately?  Thanks.

np: Everytime You Touch Me Single, EYTM - NYC Jungle Mix


.oooO  Oooo.   --Ade.
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 1956 08:54:42 +0000
From: Your Name <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Techno (really long rant so get comfy)

>
> Amen.  It's one of my favorite pasttimes.  On special days I dance naked,
> but I'm sure noone wanted to hear that.

and what special days might those be ade?  :  )
are thursdays special?

>
> but hey.....
> it's okay
> and if it ain't
> well....it's still okay
>
xaq>>>>>
by this i was talking about reality techno life corporate uniforms
and mindnumb........

it all sucks
and it's all good
:  )


clay

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Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 22:34:03 -0600
From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby info(new album new record deal)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anthony Colorez wrote:
> Just out of curiosity, do you or anyone else know why Moby is
> looking for a new record label? Have Moby and Elektra had strained
> relations in the past? Pesonally, I think Elektra sort of kicks ass
> since they have both Moby and Bjork.

I don't know for sure, but I can venture a guess.  Elektra "had" Moby,
but what did they do for him?  They failed to release a number of his
singles.  After delaying _Animal Rights_ for almost five months, they
didn't promote it with any singles.  Though Revolver and the Bond
Theme had videos shown a little bit on MTV, neither was released as a
single by Elektra.  The latter in particular could have been a hit in
the US, but Elektra bungled it by putting out only a 12" (and we know
that only diehards (DJs and fans/collectors) seek out and buy 12"s.

Though they've done some good things too (such as the US Move EP, FSR
maxi-CD, and BBMH), overall I would have to say that Elektra's
promotion and releasing of Moby's music has been poor.  They should
look to Mute as an example if they want to clean up their act.

Daniel Cerman
http://www.moby.org/
NP:  Mozart, Symphony No. 41 "Jupiter" in C major [K 551] (Molto Allegro)

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Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 22:09:36 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby info(new album new record deal)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

> I don't know for sure, but I can venture a guess.  Elektra "had" Moby,
> but what did they do for him?  They failed to release a number of his
> singles.  After delaying _Animal Rights_ for almost five months, they
> didn't promote it with any singles.

I fully agree with you there, it's so obvious that Moby was not
their priority over the last few years. It's a common problem
for artists who border on mainstream, yet never become cash cows.
And if the national radio promotion team had been on top of it,
I think they could have easily taken the James Bond Theme into the
top 10 in gavin and cmj.

Does anyone know where that peaked on the US college charts?

paul

 Though Revolver and the Bond
> Theme had videos shown a little bit on MTV, neither was released as a
> single by Elektra.  The latter in particular could have been a hit in
> the US, but Elektra bungled it by putting out only a 12" (and we know
> that only diehards (DJs and fans/collectors) seek out and buy 12"s.
>
> Though they've done some good things too (such as the US Move EP, FSR
> maxi-CD, and BBMH), overall I would have to say that Elektra's
> promotion and releasing of Moby's music has been poor.  They should
> look to Mute as an example if they want to clean up their act.
>
> Daniel Cerman
> http://www.moby.org/
> NP:  Mozart, Symphony No. 41 "Jupiter" in C major [K 551] (Molto Allegro)
>
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 01:15:20 EDT
From: Kingmob83 <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Techno

In a message dated 98-04-27 19:40:45 EDT, you write:

<< How do you all feel about the way that techno
 music sort of fits into that Jolt Cola, World Wide Web, Hacker field. I have
 noticed frequently that techno music always seems to fit into that hacker/
 computer nerd idea, even though it is really, as far as I can see, as far
away
 from that as possible? Other then the fact that much of this music is made on
 synthesizers or computers, I see no connection between Moby and Bill Gates.
>>

i don't think the music has much to do with the lifestyle as the media would
like to sell the lifestyle useing the music.  Example: techno music and being
a hacker aren't very related, but techno suits the soundtrack to the movie
Hackers very well.
As does the moby mix of speed freak(this part added to make it a moby related
post)

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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 00:02:18 -0600
From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Techno

[e-mail] wrote:
> How do you all feel about the way that techno
> music sort of fits into that Jolt Cola, World Wide Web, Hacker field. I have
> noticed frequently that techno music always seems to fit into that hacker/
> computer nerd idea, even though it is really, as far as I can see, as far
> away from that as possible? Other then the fact that much of this music is

Why should it be so far away?  As far as I know, techno is the most popular
form of music among hacker types.  Of course, they listen to other things
too, and I don't think there's anything inherently "nerdy" about electronic
music, but doesn't it seem that techno's electronic origin, precise timing,
and computer-generated special effects might appeal more to programmers and
other computer enthusiasts than the general populace?  Seems logical to me.

> made on synthesizers or computers, I see no connection between Moby and Bill
> Gates. Do you?

No.  Bill Gates is considered neither a hacker nor a musician.

Daniel Cerman
http://www.moby.org/
NP:  Think Tank, "Baphomet"

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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 09:44:09 +0200
From: Jonathan Ruano <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) syracuse

On Mon, Apr 27, 1998 at 04:46:30PM -0400, James Raiswell wrote:

> > that's all i can seem to remember, i think i was sun-baked, im definitly sun-
> > burned..
> > ,sarah
>
> can we *please* try to keep conversations regarding this concert to minimum?
> i'm a little bitter that i had to work that day.
I like these "how it was" messages, as I definitively cant attend those
concerts.

I suggest a Subject starting with [James, dont read!]: :)

More seriously, I think it's a great way to share things about Moby.

Jonathan.

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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 01:52:36 -0700
From: Daniel Lee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Techno (really long rant so get comfy)

 Ade wrote:

> Speaking of underground raves and all that...I don't know where any of you
> are from, but if you have the scoop on underground rave scenes in the
> Indianapolis area can you e-mail you email me privately?  Thanks.

HEY, you know what would be dope?
If all of us on the Mobility list got together and threw a party (rave)!

We'd have to pick some neutral location, but that would be AWESOME!!!

And we wouldn't have to worry about what music to play!

Peace,

Dan #2


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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 13:30:43 +0200
From: Jonathan Ruano <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Techno

On Tue, Apr 28, 1998 at 12:02:18AM -0600, Daniel Cerman wrote:

> [e-mail] wrote:
> > How do you all feel about the way that techno
> > music sort of fits into that Jolt Cola, World Wide Web, Hacker field. I have
> > noticed frequently that techno music always seems to fit into that hacker/
> > computer nerd idea, even though it is really, as far as I can see, as far
> > away from that as possible? Other then the fact that much of this music is

> Why should it be so far away?  As far as I know, techno is the most popular
> form of music among hacker types.
I dont consider myself a hacker of those who spend their spare time attacking
others machines, but more a computer nerd, who sometimes has to do tricks to
fix something, or to make it work like I want.

> Of course, they listen to other things too,
> and I don't think there's anything inherently "nerdy" about electronic
> music,
I think there're different ways to approach eletronic music. I would call one
of them, 'user-level' approach: they dont know anything about electronics,
but know how to push buttons, and move controls... The other one would be
an eletronic-aware person who also likes (composing) electronic music.

> but doesn't it seem that techno's electronic origin, precise timing,
> and computer-generated special effects might appeal more to programmers and
> other computer enthusiasts than the general populace?  Seems logical to me.
I agree with you to some extent. The knowledge on how much it takes to do
something, makes you notice more about it. As you learn, you find more details
in what you do/are. I dont know if I make sense, but if you're into it, you
live it in other/better(?) way.

> No.  Bill Gates is considered neither a hacker nor a musician.
He's just a damn good business man.

Jonathan.

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Date: 28 Apr 1998 08:46:22 -0500
From: "April Kilduff" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #147

                                    RE>mobility-digest V1 #147
4/28/98
 We be Jammin! Hey Mon!                                                  8:39
AM

 I was wondering... (I am about to hop into an oven)...what if all of Moby's
eco-friendliness, vegetarianism, etc. is just a show? Maybe he's just putting
on this fake face just to attract listeners, just to seem more interesting.

interesting thought, but my experience as a vegetarian says that it isn't the
sort of thing that "attracts" people, in fact, most people are ready to
heartily debate your choice and make it their personal mission to get a piece
of meat in you. sure he might attract a minority of people doing that, but if
you're going to be fake to be popular, wouldn't you fake something that would
attract a lot of people rather than a few? just a thought. i'm glad you don't
really believe that is the case with moby.

btw, i'm new to the list, so hello all. i've been listening to moby for about
five or six years now and have the basics - moby, rare/go, i like to score,
some domestic cd singles, and the voodoo child ambient cd that recently came
out (the title escapes me at the moment). i saw him twice in dallas and those
were some of the best shows i've been to. any more american dates coming up?


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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 10:16:44 -0400
From: Steve Giles <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Stella / Monday

Welcome Victor & April !!! I hope you both enjoy us and I hope you won't
hesitate to chime in whenever the urge strikes you.

Yesterday I was browsing at the reccid stor. I saw the Jam & Spoon's
"Stella" Cd from Austria on the discount import rack. I recognized the name
from the Go remix talk hereabouts,  and saw Barracuda on the back. I bought
it, and Moby's mixes are good! Not his best, but good. My preference is the
Electro mix. I'm figuring they traded two mixes? I know Moby likes to do
that. Stella has a very cool cover. I like J&S, I'll be keeping my eyes open
for them.

Regarding: Is Moby for real? I agree with the group here, of course he is.
You don't see someone maintaining a false front put out such honest,
powerful, heartfelt music. He could've gained much more by not being how he
is, although I believe this was already pointed out.

Regarding: Techno I agree with both sides here. There is a media bred image
that is skewed and misleading, but coincidentally, it does fit in some ways.
(the creation of techno often involves computers / higher appeal of techno
to a video-game generation)

I would've been involved in the above conversations but my mailbox program
is taking a crap and I got all of yesterday's mail all at once this morn.
        -Steve Giles

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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 10:11:09 -0600
From: Ade <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Techno

>Bill Gates is considered neither a hacker nor a musician.

Actually, if you read up on his history you'll find out that Bill Gates was
an origional hacker (not necessarily malicious).   He's more than a
business man - he's actually got some brains too.

Maybe interest in techno and interest in computers don't have a direct
correlation, but there's some quality in each that makes them appealing in
similar ways.  I'm very interested in both, but I don't think I'm
interested in one because of the other.  I rarely associate the two.



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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 08:59:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dan Venema <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) mobility community

Hi...Dan number..uhhhh...just call me quiet moby:)
anyways..I know I don't write alot..mainly because everytime i think
of something some brilliant dodger writes it down before
me:)(yah..that's it;)
anyways..over the time I've been on this list, I've felt a real
community..like you people are real people like we should be sitting
around a big table having coffee and chatting......just thought I'd
share something.........
 so many really cool people on here, i love reading all your trains of
thoughts...
anyways..have a great one
 quiet moby(dan#43754304389752430)

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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 12:17:27 -0400
From: Steve Giles <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) mobility community

>I know I don't write alot..mainly because everytime i think
>of something some brilliant dodger writes it down before
>me:)(yah..that's it;)
>quiet moby(dan#43754304389752430)

Hey dan, if someone else wrote, make something up! Write a poem, or start a
new subject by playing devil's advocate (like someone did w/ is moby real?)
or think of a question. Once you start, it's easy.
    -Steve Giles.
BTW, you're wrong. You are dan#43754304389752431.

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