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From: rfu@stitch.com Subject: (mobility) Turkey sales,business only,hip hop???? Date: 01 Dec 1998 03:33:18 -0800 > > ps-i read an article that said only 1,200 tofurkeys were sold in the us in > 1995, but 35,000 we sold this time around! Here a great off topic for all you who hate them and whoever else... That first figure of 1,200 is ridiculous (so is the 35,000 for that matter) 1,200 turkeys in the whole USA in 1994 would leave 24 turkeys per state for the whole year. Wow, I guess I knew everyone in my state that bought a turkey that year! That figure was not for the USA but more likely for one single grocery store. And to all you vegans: I'm eating turkey right now....sorry I'm feeling like provoking you all tonight obviously. Honestly, I'm bored with the list. All the off topic stuff is what mailing lists are about, this isn't a business meeting- it's a social event....But I get a strong feeling of let's talk business only, so I guess I'll just have to keep to myself and save reading posts for when I'm truly bored to death. And now about Moby, I must admit I'm very dissappointed to hear about the hip hop producers because I despise hip hop/trip hop/rap/whatever, I'm just not interested. I guess Moby is famous for switching genres but until now I liked them all and I am truly apprehensive to hear this new stuff now. Basically, I'm sad there won't be a face shredding new techno album, that's what I would like after all this rock and various ambient stuff- some upbeat thumpin techno tracks. Oh well, I'll sit in the corner. paul ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Emperor Reagan" <michael_c_rice@email.msn.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Where did I get the Moby news Date: 01 Dec 1998 07:44:21 -0700 Just a note - I got a hold of Puffy's cd from a friend and Michael Patterson is listed as the mixer on several songs and mentioned in the thank you's, nothing more. >Hi Everyone/Eric. > >I got the news from Alt.Music.Moby. > >It was posted by the following organisation: > >allstar Daily News brought to you by My Music Boulevard for >Tuesday, November 10, 1998 > >Cheers. > >Martin. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Giles <Steve.Giles@digital.com> Subject: (mobility) used tofu rap nuns Date: 01 Dec 1998 10:05:45 -0500 rfu/paul wrote >>1,200 turkeys in the whole USA in 1994 would leave 24 >>turkeys per state for the whole year. These are figures for tofu turkey sales. I read the article, too. I've also read recently about Amish kids arrested for selling cocaine, and a neighborhood that's fighting to make sure a nuns' convent doesn't get built at the end of their block. They say the organ music will lower the property values. Regarding those producers, they only produce, they aren't artists. This won't be Moby's monotonous tribute to a dead rap star. They're just tweaking sounds for him. Wait until you hear the music to decide on it. The Patterson guy probably had minimal involvement w/ Puffy and the news/promo people latched onto that to hype every angle they can. I picked up the single 12" for Honey yesterday. I was at a rock store (mostly metal, punk, and hippie music) and they had it priced domestically, 5.99. Nice. It's worth noting that the commercial release opens on the right side but the promo opens on top. Hopefully I can listen to the Sweet Honey mix properly now. Oh yeah, somebody bought that AR used and now ILTS is there. -S ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby News. Date: 01 Dec 1998 10:12:54 EST i have a feeling that the producers were people that worked with puff daddy and TLC and not puffy and and a membe of TLC..if i do recall, TLC is made up of three girls and on the post, it had the name of the guy..love.elie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brad Caviness" <bigwig@arkansas.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby News. Date: 01 Dec 1998 09:24:07 -0600 -----Original Message----- >I cannot discribe my disconent with Puff Daddy. Is this the end of Moby? I >am so distrot and furious that that moron "Puffy" will be involved (to what >appears as a great degree) in the new album. What the hell was Moby >thinking?!?!?! > Sean "Puffy" Combs is having nothing to do with Moby's record. But the guy who *mixed* puffy's record (and made it all radio friendly and appealing to the ear) is mixing Moby's new record. This is not all that unusual. If you'll notice, the single mix of Honey was not done by Moby. It was done by a Mario Caldato Jr. So, the fact that Mute (or Moby) is forking over the cash to have this other guy mix the record speaks a fair deal towards their plans for the record. And it looks like a Top40/Mtv push is in the master plan. BSC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jake M." <rockmanrock@hotmail.com> Subject: (mobility) Hip Hop Producers Date: 01 Dec 1998 09:46:04 PST I don't know about you all, but I kind of like the idea of moby being produced (to some extent) by hip hop/rap producers. He has branched out to many different genres etc...why not be produced by a hip hop producer...I think that many of them come up with very good beats...and ones that are not necessarily what you would think of "hip-hop" beats. And I think that Moby should collaberate with Chuck D of public enemy...but that may mean I am bias to some extent. Oh well. I think he will do what he feels is best. I wish I could have seen moby's video...I still have not seen one. I've seen more KLF videos...and they "retired" in '92. Of course here at school we don't have cable, let alone more than 3 stations. As for used CD's. I've not seen any moby here in the town I go to school in, but this town is pretty small 20,000...and the majority of people listen to World Music or Hippie stuff (i.e. Phish, Greatful Dead). My home town music stores have quite a bit of used moby...I first discovered the self-titled at a used store...that was my first moby album...but that was back when moby only had a few releases (EU, ST, and Ambient etc). Anyway, I've written more than I have in probably 6 months and thats not much...I will try to write more now that school is winding down... Oh yeah, speaking of the Mobyfication (new word) of the masses, I try to play as much moby as I can get away with on my radio show...i've converted a few to moby...its nice to hear others playing moby in their cars and rooms. np: Xzibit "40 dayz and 40 nitez" (yeah thats rap). Jake -- http://www.angelfire.com/co/rockman/index.html -- "The Unexamined life is not worth living"-Plato ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dredmond@bsumail.idbsu.edu (Daniel Redmond) Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby News. Date: 01 Dec 1998 12:20:05 -0500 Just as a thought, puff daddy's real name is Sean Combs, not Michael Patterson. puffy shouldn't be involved with the new album at all...<sarcasm>apart from swiping bits and pieces of it to record "his" next album</sarcasm> seriously tho...it should be interesting to hear the new album. Any word on a release date, or is that still up in the air? gangsta's left dead roses at his storefront daniel np:Pilfers - Yakuza (no, that's a ska band) >I cannot discribe my disconent with Puff Daddy. Is this the end of Moby? I >am so distrot and furious that that moron "Puffy" will be involved (to what >appears as a great degree) in the new album. What the hell was Moby >thinking?!?!?! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dredmond@bsumail.idbsu.edu (Daniel Redmond) Subject: Re: (mobility) Used Moby Date: 01 Dec 1998 12:20:04 -0500 >Urrggg. I saw the AR w/ little idiot cd used for $20 over the summer. >I didn't buy it though. I feel dumb. Is it really worth it? cause I know >where I >can get it for about $27 new... should i? I'd say yes. AR has a different track format which (i think) works better than the mainstream AR (less songs tho...more of the harder, faster stuff). Haven't had much of a chance to listen to Little idiot, tho.(praps on my way to work?) cheers daniel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson <techno_gpig@yahoo.com> Subject: (mobility) puffy no-no, honey ag'in Date: 01 Dec 1998 12:57:02 -0800 (PST) um, puffy is not producing it. someone who works with him is i guess. please, no more puffy spams. we all remember that shit. if not, check the archives. (actually i think it was me who originally brought it up by saying in my bio that i hated puffy.) at least, i hope puffy isnt involved. hey heres a question (oh boy!): if you could chose any mc in the world to rap on a moby track, who would it be? chuck d, kool keith, cypress hill, and, um, da moby boiiizzzzzzzz (moby in disguise...hee hee i made that one up) are my choices. and vanilla ice of course. oh, but i hope he doesnt do this. then he'll get a bad review in spin!!! (sarcastic dammit!) aaanyway, um, anyone know where honey was shot? the video i mean? and like, um, i bought EIW used. at the goodwill stor. on a tape. the first 45 minutes of EU are on the other side. and i also bought ILTS used the first week it was out. it has a "promo only return to label" thing on it (yeah, fat chance...) i know i asked this before, but does anyone have any old SPINs lying around? yes, i know they suck, but its research. i guess i could try and explain but 99.99999% of you at bare minumum care, so im not gonna waste your tyme or mine. but if you have any lying around, email me PRIVATELY. i got the new issue in the mail yesterday. it has the top cds of the year list. PLASTIKMAN is number 14 or so with "Consumed". cool, eh? lauryn hill is number 1, massiv attack is 6, air is 5, etc. bye! np:eclectica 2 sampler on the nsoul website, in realaudio (which is the cottier/ryu track?) == "you know how einstein got bad grades as a kid? well mine are even worse!!!"-late, great calvin (from calvin and hobbes) >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Giles <Steve.Giles@digital.com> Subject: (mobility) Poby Dall and light bulbs Date: 01 Dec 1998 18:23:24 -0500 >><sarcasm>apart from swiping bits and pieces of it to >>record "his" next album</sarcasm> Sure, he could talk monotone (mysteriously referred to as 'rapping' by his fans) over 'Honey', and call it 'Money'. Three years from now when he's all but forgotten he'll be singing, "when my benjamins come back, sometime, I wish I rapped like that, sometime, ...." It wasn't supposed to fit the timing, btw. Ok, shoot me, so that wasn't funny. This is. I read it elsewhere and thought it would be appreciated here. -S Q: How many internet mail list subscribers does it take to change a light bulb? A: 1,331: 1 to change the light bulb and to post to the mail list that the light bulb has been changed 14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the light bulb could have been changed differently. 7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs. 27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light bulbs. 53 to flame the spell checkers 156 to write to the list administrator complaining about the light bulb discussion and its inappropriateness to this mail list. 41 to correct spelling in the spelling/grammar flames. 109 to post that this list is not about light bulbs and to please take this email exchange to alt.lite.bulb 203 to demand that cross posting to alt.grammar, alt.spelling and alt.punctuation about changing light bulbs be stopped. 111 to defend the posting to this list saying that we are all use light bulbs and therefore the posts **are** relevant to this mail list. 306 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this technique, and what brands are faulty. 27 to post URLs where one can see examples of different light bulbs 14 to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly, and to post corrected URLs. 3 to post about links they found from the URLs that are relevant to this list which makes light bulbs relevant to this list. 33 to concatenate all posts to date, then quote them including all headers and footers, and then add "Me Too." 12 to post to the list that they are unsubscribing because they cannot handle the light bulb controversey. 19 to quote the "Me Too's" to say, "Me Three." 4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ. 1 to propose new alt.change.lite.bulb newsgroup. 47 to say this is just what alt.physic.cold_fusion was meant for, leave it here. 143 votes for alt.lite.bulb. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: n <shadedblue@home.com> Subject: @ Re: (mobility) Comin atcha Date: 01 Dec 1998 18:36:24 -0500 hello aj AJ Brustein wrote: > > Here is some more non Moby, and I would have rather sent it to the Orbital > list, but since my email sucks and I can't get on it anymore, you guys win. > Anyway, This Saturday, I have a ticket to go see the Rephlex Allstars. IT says > that APhex Twin may only be DJing, and tha DMX Crew, Cyclob, and Agent 30 will > have their own sets, and that RDJ, DJ Grant, and DJ Mike Dred will be DJing > throuhgout the night. I have never heard any of these people except AFX of > course, and if anyone could tell me anything about them, that would be great. > Thanks. Later. > AJ Well that's a very nice lineup. If your music tastes lean at all toward experimental techno/electronic/whatever, or IDM, and if you have a good sense of humour(i.e. α la Richard D. James), most of the PA's will appeal to you. Can't speak for the DJ's except the Twin. He's pretty sick. :) Where's this event supposed to take place? Are you somewhere in the uk? Is that "@" thing in effect? I hope so or i wouldna sent this to the list. sorry. (n) -- ========================================================== Words fail. n. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Joakim" <joakim@adelphia.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) Poby Dall and light bulbs Date: 01 Dec 1998 18:49:43 -0500 > >Q: How many internet mail list subscribers does it take >to change a light bulb? > >A: 1,331: >1 to change the light bulb and to post to the mail >list that the light bulb has been changed >14 to share similar experiences of changing light >bulbs and how the light bulb could have been >changed differently. >7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs. >27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about >changing light bulbs. >53 to flame the spell checkers >156 to write to the list administrator complaining about >the light bulb discussion and its inappropriateness >to this mail list. >41 to correct spelling in the spelling/grammar flames. >109 to post that this list is not about light bulbs and >to please take this email exchange to alt.lite.bulb >203 to demand that cross posting to alt.grammar, >alt.spelling and alt.punctuation about changing >light bulbs be stopped. >111 to defend the posting to this list saying that we >are all use light bulbs and therefore the posts >**are** relevant to this mail list. >306 to debate which method of changing light >bulbs is superior, where to buy the best light bulbs, >what brand of light bulbs work best for this >technique, and what brands are faulty. >27 to post URLs where one can see examples of >different light bulbs >14 to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly, and >to post corrected URLs. >3 to post about links they found from the URLs that >are relevant to this list which makes light bulbs >relevant to this list. >33 to concatenate all posts to date, then quote >them including all headers and footers, and then >add "Me Too." >12 to post to the list that they are unsubscribing >because they cannot handle the light bulb controversey. >19 to quote the "Me Too's" to say, "Me Three." >4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ. >1 to propose new alt.change.lite.bulb newsgroup. >47 to say this is just what alt.physic.cold_fusion >was meant for, leave it here. >143 votes for alt.lite.bulb. pretty damn funny, quite appropriate for this mailing list too! =) by the way, did you make that up or is that from somewhere else? ~niels~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Colorez <colorez@execpc.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) puffy no-no, honey ag'in Date: 01 Dec 1998 19:01:57 -0800 > hey heres a question (oh boy!): > if you could chose any mc in the world to rap on a moby track, who > would it be? Without a doubt it would be... DMX. other choices: P.M. Dawn., AZ, Jay-Z. or how about Brian Austin Green? heh heh. imo, it's probably not to likely to happen though. Does moby even like rap music? -Anthony ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "krwilson" <krwilson@discover-net.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) Poby Dall and light bulbs Date: 01 Dec 1998 18:31:04 -0600 This should have been posted at alt.jokes! Just kidding! MO ---------- > From: Joakim <joakim@adelphia.net> > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (mobility) Poby Dall and light bulbs > Date: Tuesday, December 01, 1998 5:49 PM > > > > > > >Q: How many internet mail list subscribers does it take > >to change a light bulb? > > > >A: 1,331: > >1 to change the light bulb and to post to the mail > >list that the light bulb has been changed > >14 to share similar experiences of changing light > >bulbs and how the light bulb could have been > >changed differently. > >7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs. > >27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about > >changing light bulbs. > >53 to flame the spell checkers > >156 to write to the list administrator complaining about > >the light bulb discussion and its inappropriateness > >to this mail list. > >41 to correct spelling in the spelling/grammar flames. > >109 to post that this list is not about light bulbs and > >to please take this email exchange to alt.lite.bulb > >203 to demand that cross posting to alt.grammar, > >alt.spelling and alt.punctuation about changing > >light bulbs be stopped. > >111 to defend the posting to this list saying that we > >are all use light bulbs and therefore the posts > >**are** relevant to this mail list. > >306 to debate which method of changing light > >bulbs is superior, where to buy the best light bulbs, > >what brand of light bulbs work best for this > >technique, and what brands are faulty. > >27 to post URLs where one can see examples of > >different light bulbs > >14 to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly, and > >to post corrected URLs. > >3 to post about links they found from the URLs that > >are relevant to this list which makes light bulbs > >relevant to this list. > >33 to concatenate all posts to date, then quote > >them including all headers and footers, and then > >add "Me Too." > >12 to post to the list that they are unsubscribing > >because they cannot handle the light bulb controversey. > >19 to quote the "Me Too's" to say, "Me Three." > >4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ. > >1 to propose new alt.change.lite.bulb newsgroup. > >47 to say this is just what alt.physic.cold_fusion > >was meant for, leave it here. > >143 votes for alt.lite.bulb. > > > pretty damn funny, quite appropriate for this mailing list too! =) by the > way, did you make that up or is that from somewhere else? > > ~niels~ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "krwilson" <krwilson@discover-net.net> Subject: (mobility) Moby w/MC's Date: 01 Dec 1998 18:37:08 -0600 I think Moby would do very well with TC Islam(DJ soulslinger's mate) or MC Conrad. MC Conrad did the freestyle rhyme to "Western"(written by Mike Bolton/produced by PFM) Not many people know about these guys, but they are VERY good. MO ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Turpin <jct1@Ra.MsState.Edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) Hip Hop Producers Date: 01 Dec 1998 18:46:47 -0600 >As for used CD's. I've not seen any moby here in the town I go to school >in, but this town is pretty small 20,000...and the majority of people >listen to World Music or Hippie stuff (i.e. Phish, Greatful Dead). Sounds just like Starkville, MS, except that we do have Moby in the used bins. -- C The C.O.D. John Turpin | <jct1@ / \ Ra.MsState.Edu> O D <http://www2.msstate.edu/~jct1/cod/> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HOVEY <bhoveyredfive@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) used tofu rap nuns Date: 01 Dec 1998 20:19:24 -0800 (PST) Think of it this way.......Moby does many mixes and remixes of different music. (Hell i have a soundgarden mix), And thats all that these rap guys are are knob tweeakers nothing more. I dont think that moby will put something like honey out and then let some one a few months later put out shit for him. Besides when did you hear a bad moby song?????? Peace Bri ---Steve Giles <Steve.Giles@digital.com> wrote: > > > rfu/paul wrote > >>1,200 turkeys in the whole USA in 1994 would leave 24 > >>turkeys per state for the whole year. > > These are figures for tofu turkey sales. I read the article, too. I've also > read recently about Amish kids arrested for selling cocaine, and a > neighborhood that's fighting to make sure a nuns' convent doesn't get built > at the end of their block. They say the organ music will lower the property > values. > > Regarding those producers, they only produce, they aren't artists. This > won't be Moby's monotonous tribute to a dead rap star. They're just tweaking > sounds for him. Wait until you hear the music to decide on it. The Patterson > guy probably had minimal involvement w/ Puffy and the news/promo people > latched onto that to hype every angle they can. > > I picked up the single 12" for Honey yesterday. I was at a rock store > (mostly metal, punk, and hippie music) and they had it priced domestically, > 5.99. Nice. It's worth noting that the commercial release opens on the right > side but the promo opens on top. Hopefully I can listen to the Sweet Honey > mix properly now. Oh yeah, somebody bought that AR used and now ILTS is > there. > > -S > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HOVEY <bhoveyredfive@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Poby Dall and light bulbs Date: 01 Dec 1998 20:23:12 -0800 (PST) WOW you have alot of time on your hands!!!!!!! Bri ---Steve Giles <Steve.Giles@digital.com> wrote: > > >><sarcasm>apart from swiping bits and pieces of it to > >>record "his" next album</sarcasm> > > Sure, he could talk monotone (mysteriously referred to as 'rapping' by his > fans) over 'Honey', and call it 'Money'. Three years from now when he's all > but forgotten he'll be singing, "when my benjamins come back, sometime, I > wish I rapped like that, sometime, ...." > > It wasn't supposed to fit the timing, btw. Ok, shoot me, so that wasn't > funny. This is. I read it elsewhere and thought it would be appreciated > here. -S > > Q: How many internet mail list subscribers does it take > to change a light bulb? > > A: 1,331: > 1 to change the light bulb and to post to the mail > list that the light bulb has been changed > 14 to share similar experiences of changing light > bulbs and how the light bulb could have been > changed differently. > 7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs. > 27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about > changing light bulbs. > 53 to flame the spell checkers > 156 to write to the list administrator complaining about > the light bulb discussion and its inappropriateness > to this mail list. > 41 to correct spelling in the spelling/grammar flames. > 109 to post that this list is not about light bulbs and > to please take this email exchange to alt.lite.bulb > 203 to demand that cross posting to alt.grammar, > alt.spelling and alt.punctuation about changing > light bulbs be stopped. > 111 to defend the posting to this list saying that we > are all use light bulbs and therefore the posts > **are** relevant to this mail list. > 306 to debate which method of changing light > bulbs is superior, where to buy the best light bulbs, > what brand of light bulbs work best for this > technique, and what brands are faulty. > 27 to post URLs where one can see examples of > different light bulbs > 14 to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly, and > to post corrected URLs. > 3 to post about links they found from the URLs that > are relevant to this list which makes light bulbs > relevant to this list. > 33 to concatenate all posts to date, then quote > them including all headers and footers, and then > add "Me Too." > 12 to post to the list that they are unsubscribing > because they cannot handle the light bulb controversey. > 19 to quote the "Me Too's" to say, "Me Three." > 4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ. > 1 to propose new alt.change.lite.bulb newsgroup. > 47 to say this is just what alt.physic.cold_fusion > was meant for, leave it here. > 143 votes for alt.lite.bulb. > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AJ Brustein <miyagi@tke.att.ne.jp> Subject: Re: @ Re: (mobility) Comin atcha Date: 02 Dec 1998 04:16:24 -0500 Sorry I have to send this to the whole list, but I can't get NEtscape to reply to anyone other than mobility... so you all get it. Maybe someone can tell me how to fix that and then I won't need to do that anymore. Anyway, That AFX show is in Tokyo, so Idoubt I will see you there. Later. AJ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Emperor Reagan" <michael_c_rice@email.msn.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby News. Date: 02 Dec 1998 09:39:23 -0700 <sarcasm>apart from swiping bits and pieces of it to record "his" next >album</sarcasm> it seems rather ridiculous to me that fans of techno and dance music would be attacking other people for sampling/remaking other people's songs... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dredmond@bsumail.idbsu.edu (Daniel Redmond) Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby News. Date: 02 Dec 1998 10:04:09 -0500 I wouldn't make such a big deal if he weren't so damn blatant with it. Sure, Moby does do remakes of other people's songs, and I'm sure he samples other songs. The thing with puffy is that he tends not to give credit where credit is due, and besides that, it's all he does. just explaining my .015 daniel 9-and-a-half hours to depeche mode! ps sometimes, things that are said with <sarcasm> tags surrounding them are meant as jokes...or at least spoken tounge in cheek > > > ><sarcasm>apart from swiping bits and pieces of it to record "his" next >>album</sarcasm> > > >it seems rather ridiculous to me that fans of techno and dance music would >be attacking other people for sampling/remaking other people's songs... > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clay <clayev2k@ixpres.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby News. Date: 28 Aug 1998 23:08:48 +0000 it seems it seems it seems it seems rather ridiculous rather ridiculous rather ridiculous to me to me to me it seems it seems it seems it seems rather ridiculous rather ridiculous rather ridiculous to me to me to me it seems it seems it seems it seems rather ridiculous rather ridiculous rather ridiculous to me to me to me that fans of techno techno techno techno techno techno that fans of techno techno techno techno techno techno and dance music would be attacking other people for sampling/remaking other people's songs... would be attacking other people for sampling/remaking other people's songs... would be attacking other people for sampling/remaking other people's songs... would be attacking other people for sampling/remaking other people's songs... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unless the music sucks of course!!!!!!! it's all in the butt of the beholder clay ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Geoffrey Sproule" <gsproule@x-stream.co.uk> Subject: (mobility) mobility videos Date: 02 Dec 1998 17:41:27 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01BE1E1A.FCEB13C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable is moby releasing a collection of videos I have never seen any of them = (or a live video) will his next album be a limited double album (hope so) could someone please send me a copy of underwater (I will make a comp of = tracks on CD to who ever sends me a copy ) or even better the original, = I will pay then of course for the original.) just name the tracks I have = all the singles on CD from I feel it and all the albums plus import ones = plus soundtrack appearances like spawn, jackal, saint, and remixes he = has done for other people like blur, David bowie, OMD, metallica etc=20 I have tried for months now to find a copy of underwater but to no avail email me at gsproule@x-stream.co.uk thank you P.S. I hope I am not insulting anyone but I am desperate ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01BE1E1A.FCEB13C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 5.00.0518.7"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>is moby releasing a collection of = videos I have=20 never seen any of them (or a live video)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>will his next album be a limited = double album=20 (hope so)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>could someone please send me a copy = of=20 underwater (I will make a comp of tracks on CD to who ever sends me a = copy ) or=20 even better the original, I will pay then of course for the original.) = just name=20 the tracks I have all the singles on CD from I feel it and all the = albums plus=20 import ones plus soundtrack appearances like spawn, jackal, saint, = and=20 remixes he has done for other people like blur, David bowie, OMD, = metallica etc=20 </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I have tried for months now to find = a copy of=20 underwater but to no avail</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"" size=3D2>email me at <A=20 href=3D"mailto:gsproule@x-stream.co.uk">gsproule@x-stream.co.uk</A></FONT= ></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"" size=3D2>thank you</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"" size=3D2>P.S. I hope I am not = insulting anyone=20 but I am desperate</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> </BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01BE1E1A.FCEB13C0-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Mullen" <SpaceRock@email.msn.com> Subject: (mobility) imaginary Moby projects Date: 02 Dec 1998 10:00:55 -0800 -----Original Message----- hello again, I somehow always imagined Moby working with Digable Planets. I dunno, that whole NY vibe. If Moby does another punk album, he should do it with the beasties. both have those early hardcore roots. I'd also like to see Moby work with Brian Austin Green (as Anthony said). Maybe they could do a very small number limited edition single so all the fans would be out running around, going crazy trying to get one (or two). >hey heres a question (oh boy!): >if you could chose any mc in the world to rap on a moby track, who >would it be? np: Man...or Astro Man? : {|> --android SpaceRock@email.msn.com does anyone remember an early 90's band from Australia--Third Eye? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Mullen" <SpaceRock@email.msn.com> Subject: (mobility) imaginary Moby projects Date: 02 Dec 1998 10:00:55 -0800 -----Original Message----- hello again, I somehow always imagined Moby working with Digable Planets. I dunno, that whole NY vibe. If Moby does another punk album, he should do it with the beasties. both have those early hardcore roots. I'd also like to see Moby work with Brian Austin Green (as Anthony said). Maybe they could do a very small number limited edition single so all the fans would be out running around, going crazy trying to get one (or two). >hey heres a question (oh boy!): >if you could chose any mc in the world to rap on a moby track, who >would it be? np: Man...or Astro Man? : {|> --android SpaceRock@email.msn.com does anyone remember an early 90's band from Australia--Third Eye? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Bourke <cbourke1@bigred.unl.edu> Subject: (mobility) "techno" samples vs "hip hop" samples was:Moby News. Date: 02 Dec 1998 12:55:21 -0600 (CST) On Wed, 2 Dec 1998, Emperor Reagan wrote: > <sarcasm>apart from swiping bits and pieces of it to record "his" next > >album</sarcasm> > > > it seems rather ridiculous to me that fans of techno and dance music would > be attacking other people for sampling/remaking other people's songs... Don't want to have this debate again, but realize, "techno" and related genre artist's samples are used merely to reenforce an existing tune. They don't (like the so called hip hoppers) sample entire melodies from an already existing track (I haven't heard a Puffy song yet that doesn't include a VERY recognizable sample). Further, "techno" artists usually distort, speed up or down, or loop a SMALL sample so that it is not necessarily recognizable. Puffy merely uses an already existing melody and builds on that which requires no originality, he can simply as for some beat and put his crappy, self-absorbed and violent lyrics to it. That is the difference between good sampling and bad sampling. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric M. Goldberg" <gold@netrox.net> Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby News. Date: 02 Dec 1998 14:11:00 -0500 > I wouldn't make such a big deal if he weren't so damn blatant with it. > Sure, Moby does do remakes of other people's songs, and I'm sure he samples > other songs. The thing with puffy is that he tends not to give credit where > credit is due, and besides that, it's all he does. The thing with mr.poof is he samples stuff and doesnt change it at all.. for instance the sting sample, he samples it puts a beat to it, and boom hes a genius?? At least when Moby samples he either may change it in some way or add his own stuff to it. The idea of using samples is to be able to make any kind of sound, the bad way of using samples is when you just recycle something and call it yours.. just my opin eric gold@netrox.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric M. Goldberg" <gold@netrox.net> Subject: (mobility) Thanks 2? Date: 02 Dec 1998 14:26:16 -0500 Well since I dont know really what is going on with the Thanks 2 compilation, I've decided to upload one of my remixes to my webpage. Its very temporary though so please forgive the mess.. One of the two remixes is there, its Moby's Myopia. Its about 6megs so it may be a long dload for most people, especially if youre like me and have a slow connection. And in case your bored you can listen to a few real audio links of some of my other stuff.. I have mp3s of all of them but i lack storage space to upload them to. Anyways, for those who want to hear one of my remixes for thanks 2 (hopefully) go to http://www.netrox.net/~gold/tm/ and i pasted this from netscape hopefully it will work, its a direct link to the mp3 for the lazy ones out there. http://www.netrox.net/~gold/Moby%20-%20Myopia%20(Tone%20Matrix%20Mix).mp3 Oh and you may need to do SHIFT+CLICK or right click to save the mp3 correctly.. Well hope someone hears it, Eric gold@netrox.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clay <clayev2k@ixpres.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) "techno" samples vs "hip hop" samples was:Moby News. Date: 27 Aug 1998 21:37:58 +0000 > crappy, self-absorbed and violent lyrics is the puff really that violent? well shit i better move on back to compton...then...... where tha word still has meaning> now are the spice girls violent too? damn now...ain't life a bitch. (saying all hip-hop is simply looping something and doing totally unoriginal stuff with it is just plain ignorant)> as there weren't some <god-awful> U N O R I G I N A L TALeNtLesS techno> a sample is a sample is a sample regardless of race color creed style what you do with it is what counts it's like saying all sampled music less than 118 beats per minute sucks! i think if you told moby that all hip-hop sucked he'd (very politely) tell you to clean that egg out of your ears and get with the history of what is truly modern in this world> you don gotta like it but ya gotzta understand where all this shit came from as if orbital never sped up a hip-hop loop nor renegade soundwave nor public enemy beastie boys beck prodigy chem bros on and on and on clay ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Giles <Steve.Giles@digital.com> Subject: (mobility) 12" moby for sale Date: 02 Dec 1998 18:18:07 -0500 There's loads of Moby records that went on auction today at http://www.ebay.com I recommend going into the Books, Movies, Music area and using the search string 'moby -dick -grape' with Search Titles and Descriptions turned on. That'll get you the best results, you know, it'll show all the soundtracks and remixes with Moby on them that are for sale, too. There's plenty of CDs, too. Clay, your eloquence is coarse and unique. Well said. Everybody tries to make things be either this or that.. and that don't work. I'm very picky when it comes to rap and hip-hop. I like Tupac, Busta, Ice Cube, Invisibl Sqratch Picklz, and a couple others... Maybe Moby could cover some of them. I'll spare you all the cheesy hybrids I imagined this time. Atrocious imaginings, really. I've been reading Wire lately, a U2 list. They have over 4000 people. That place is tense mess. We got it good. :) -Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson <techno_gpig@yahoo.com> Subject: (mobility) puffy no-no Date: 02 Dec 1998 15:29:03 -0800 (PST) uck, please no more puffy shit man! we had an argument before. fine, like puffy. hate puffy. i dont give a shit. just dont talk about him!!! aaaaanyway, um.... how many videos does moby have? ive seen like 6 or so. heres a cool combo: moby and lauryn hill. i just heard her new album today. pretty damn phat. moby and digable planets? ive always liked this quote from their first cd: "wouldn't it be weird if the 70s was the 90s? then the black panthers would have their own cartoon show! and mc hammer would be a pimp!" hee hee, ive always wanted to say that on the list. whatever claay said about the butt of the beholder, damn straight. um......aw crap i4got! anyone have the "dub meltdown" track listing? by bill laswell? i know theres some laswell fans out there!!!!! bye == "i see ten thousand chariots, and they comin', comin' without horses"-Bob Marley, "Midnight Ravers" >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Emperor Reagan" <michael_c_rice@email.msn.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) puffy no-no Date: 02 Dec 1998 16:40:21 -0700 >uck, please no more puffy shit man! > >we had an argument before. > >fine, like puffy. hate puffy. i dont give a shit. > > >just dont talk about him!!! > Ok, I'll save it. I'll just leave it at - Puffy is no more deserving of scorn than are the eve6/greenday/spicegirls/backstreet boys/marilyn mansons/etc. of the world. Uninspired music coupled with a little hype and/or entertainment factor sells, you can't blame people for taking advantage of it. Blame the people that buy it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric M. Goldberg" <gold@netrox.net> Subject: (mobility) an odd online record store Date: 03 Dec 1998 00:37:12 -0500 Thought you guys/gals might like to know there is an online record store called MOBY Disc Records. Ironically though I dont think they sell any actual cds of moby. Does have some nice used soundtracks.. Anyways if youre bored take a look, http://www.mobydisc.com/ eric ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jeff.summers" <jeff.summers@MCIONE.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) an odd online record store Date: 02 Dec 1998 22:01:58 -0800 More than online. It is a small chain (6, I think) in southern California, selling new and used. The stores are medium sized, not as large as Tower, but bigger than most mom and pop stores, as big as some Wherehouse locations. -----Original Message----- >Thought you guys/gals might like to know >there is an online record store called >MOBY Disc Records. >Ironically though I dont think they sell >any actual cds of moby. > >Does have some nice used soundtracks.. >Anyways if youre bored take a look, > >http://www.mobydisc.com/ > >eric > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: n <shadedblue@home.com> Subject: (mobility) In Praise of The End Of Everything Date: 02 Dec 1998 22:44:35 -0500 I'm sitting here listening to TEOE for the first time in a really long time and rediscovering how beautiful a piece of work it is. Patient Love has struck a particular chord with me this listen around. It almost brought tears to my eyes. There seems (to me right now anyway) to be some story behind it that seems both joyful and sad at the same time. Tracks like that are the reason i listen to music. :) -- ========================================================== Words fail. n. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson <techno_gpig@yahoo.com> Subject: (mobility) honey domestic!!! Date: 03 Dec 1998 12:38:42 -0800 (PST) if you go to cdnow, it lists honey and honey remix domestically (US). for regular price. its on mute. anyone know if these copies are made in america or if they are just imports priced domestically? ive seen honey remixes for domestic price, but i think they were imports...maybe not they also have clips from "ambient" i just finished the clip of "heaven"....i never knew they had these clips up. hmmmmmm....uhh, i was gonna ask sumpin else.. oh well bak 2 ambient!!! byeyall == "i see ten thousand chariots, and they comin', comin' without horses"-Bob Marley, "Midnight Ravers" >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Damian <damian@xmission.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) honey domestic!!! Date: 03 Dec 1998 21:09:28 -0700 Paul Simpson wrote: > > if you go to cdnow, it lists honey and honey remix domestically (US). > for regular price. its on mute. > > anyone know if these copies are made in america or if they are just > imports priced domestically? > > ive seen honey remixes for domestic price, but i think they were > imports...maybe not I believe (but don't quote me), they're made in the UK but specially priced for export. Wasn't "Come On Baby" like this? One format issued for export and priced lower (but not as low as the current Honey singles). Mute has done this a time or two when they feel the demand is high outside of the UK (I think they did it for Erasure too in another country). Mute might do this because the artists label isn't planning on releasing it or the artist is without a label (like Moby in the US). Speaking of a label... who's likely up for it? Virgin? And for those who don't know, BT is now signed to City Of Angels! If you want more info on their planned releases for BT, lemme know. Damian. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HOVEY <bhoveyredfive@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) honey domestic!!! Date: 03 Dec 1998 20:35:52 -0800 (PST) Damian any Bt info would be like a god send for me if you could find it in your heart to provide it Peace Bri ---Damian <damian@xmission.com> wrote: > > Paul Simpson wrote: > > > > if you go to cdnow, it lists honey and honey remix domestically (US). > > for regular price. its on mute. > > > > anyone know if these copies are made in america or if they are just > > imports priced domestically? > > > > ive seen honey remixes for domestic price, but i think they were > > imports...maybe not > > I believe (but don't quote me), they're made in the UK but specially > priced for export. Wasn't "Come On Baby" like this? One format issued > for export and priced lower (but not as low as the current Honey > singles). > > Mute has done this a time or two when they feel the demand is high > outside of the UK (I think they did it for Erasure too in another > country). Mute might do this because the artists label isn't planning > on releasing it or the artist is without a label (like Moby in the US). > > Speaking of a label... who's likely up for it? Virgin? > > And for those who don't know, BT is now signed to City Of Angels! > If you want more info on their planned releases for BT, lemme know. > > Damian. > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adekunle Olonoh <ade@kirk.anderson.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) honey domestic!!! Date: 04 Dec 1998 1:59:02 EST The Honey CDs on CDNOW are the UK releases. It's a pretty nice price for an import eh? It'll take a few weeks for them to get it in though. --Ade. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HOVEY <bhoveyredfive@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) puffy no-no Date: 04 Dec 1998 07:08:07 +0800 (SGT) Fine!! It is I that you should blam than. Or should you???? You see this thing that we listen to with our ears is called music. Some of this music is harsh or nasty...or just would rather have your ass move to it. I dont think that any music should recieve scorn or hate towards it, this is a power that can draw out every emotion in us that it should be respected not trashed. Next did you know that even though you may not like puffy, his type of music(hip-hop), inspired our beloved creator and others like BT, Orbital, Meat Beat, ect. I could go on and on but i think that todays lesson is over. Dont be so hard on music please. Peace Bri ---Emperor Reagan <michael_c_rice@email.msn.com> wrote: > > >uck, please no more puffy shit man! > > > >we had an argument before. > > > >fine, like puffy. hate puffy. i dont give a shit. > > > > > >just dont talk about him!!! > > > > > Ok, I'll save it. I'll just leave it at - Puffy is no more deserving of > scorn than are the eve6/greenday/spicegirls/backstreet boys/marilyn > mansons/etc. of the world. Uninspired music coupled with a little hype > and/or entertainment factor sells, you can't blame people for taking > advantage of it. Blame the people that buy it. > > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jon <mazbass@icl-server.ucsd.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) honey domestic!!! Date: 04 Dec 1998 01:05:46 -0800 >And for those who don't know, BT is now signed to City Of Angels! >If you want more info on their planned releases for BT, lemme know. > >Damian. > Hi! i'm a big BIG BIG BT fan and would love info on new releases. Is anyone else out there a fan of BT? I've been trying to compile a discography, but I think I might need some help---hope to hear from some of you guys... thanks in advance, jon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Emperor Reagan" <michael_c_rice@email.msn.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) puffy no-no Date: 04 Dec 1998 02:33:32 -0700 >Fine!! It is I that you should blam than. Or should you???? You see >this thing that we listen to with our ears is called music. Some of >this music is harsh or nasty...or just would rather have your ass move >to it. I dont think that any music should recieve scorn or hate >towards it, this is a power that can draw out every emotion in us that >it should be respected not trashed. >Next did you know that even though you may not like puffy, his type of >music(hip-hop), inspired our beloved creator and others like BT, >Orbital, Meat Beat, ect. >I could go on and on but i think that todays lesson is over. Dont be >so hard on music please. I'm sorry. I should have phrased things differently. Re-reading my message made me realize that it didn't come across remotely near the way I intended it to...instead of defending Puffy, that message ended up sounding more like an attack on him...between that, and my earlier comment attacking techno artists in general, i haven't done a very good job. I love hip-hop, from gandmaster flash, the sugar hill gang, run dmc, and public enemy to Ice-T, Ice cube, the wu-tang clan, and cypress hill. Perhaps the attack on other artists shows that I'm becoming bitter from my battles, trying to convince people that most hip-hop artists are indeed very talented, very intelligent people making some very good music. And though I don't particularly care for Puffy's particular brand of rap, I have great respect for him as a Producer/Marketer and will admit that he did some good things with his album. >Peace >Bri ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greg Shipley <gshipley@wiretrip.net> Subject: (mobility) Re: Thanks 1 & 2 Info.... Date: 04 Dec 1998 05:05:36 -0600 (CST) On Fri, 4 Dec 1998, Greg Shipley wrote: > UPLOAD! Drop me a line after you upload it and I will confirm that it is > there. I am thinking WAV is best for now, but I open the floor to Oh, and if I confused anyone with the e-mail address, no worries - they go to the same place. Use gshipley@wiretrip.net, however, if at all possible. Sorry, -G ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greg Shipley <gshipley@wiretrip.net> Subject: (mobility) Thanks 1 & 2 Info.... (fwd) Date: 04 Dec 1998 05:07:54 -0600 (CST) Resending this 'cause I think it got lost in the shuffle... On Wed, 2 Dec 1998, Eric M. Goldberg wrote: > Well since I dont know really what is > going on with the Thanks 2 compilation, > I've decided to upload one of my remixes > to my webpage. Okay, the web page isn't done yet but the FTP site is up. FTP to (FTP, NOT HTTP!!!!) moby.wiretrip.net User: ftp/anonymous Passwd: <your-email address> Everything is to go in /incoming. YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SEE YOUR UPLOAD! Drop me a line after you upload it and I will confirm that it is there. I am thinking WAV is best for now, but I open the floor to suggested formats. I've done a BUNCH of research into the computer DAT (DDS) and its inability to read DAT audio natively. It *can* be done, but you need some software that costs $$$ that I'm not willing to spend. So, for now, DAT is out. And as for the mp3 debate, I leave the good Dr. and whoever he was discussing it with to summarize that one. Good info! Here is what I have listed for contributions, so far: Xaq 1. Honey (Remix) 2. Dog Heaven (Remix) Kingmob 1. Everytime You Touch Me (Remix) 2. something from AR.... Andy 1. I Like to Score (Remix) 2. M Four (Remix) Clay 1. Honest Love (Remix) Brian 1. Everything is Wrong + Every Time You Touch Me medley (Cover) Eric 1. Myopia (Other) 2. Blue Terror of Lawns (Other) Adam 1. Into the Blue (Cover) Dr. Killpatient 1. not sure just yet (Cover) Daniel - you still doing this? 1. New Dawn Fades > I have mp3s of all of them but i lack storage > space to upload them to. Stick them in the FTP site and I'll make them available via the web page, when it goes up. I've got space and a FAST connection. I apologize for the delay. Thanks I *WILL* be re-released along with Thanks II - but I'm thinking we'll wrap it all up around the same time. And I'm hoping to have that web page, with cover art, samples, info., etc. up by the end of this weekend. Ugh. Thank you for being so patient - I've been swamped. -Greg ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Beecher <T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk> Subject: Re: (mobility) "techno" samples vs "hip hop" samples was:Moby News. Date: 04 Dec 1998 18:43:02 +0000 (GMT) I think the story behind punk, hip-hop and rap are very similar. The Beastie Boys have married the two together brilliantly, in my opinion, (not that it counts for much here!). Like I've said before, if Moby were to collaborate it should be with the Beastie's. Happy Christmas and may communicate some more in the New Year! TMB ---------------------- Tim Beecher Cranfield University T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Bourke <cbourke1@bigred.unl.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) puffy no-no Date: 04 Dec 1998 13:14:36 -0600 (CST) > Fine!! It is I that you should blam than. Or should you???? You see > this thing that we listen to with our ears is called music. Some of > this music is harsh or nasty...or just would rather have your ass move > to it. I dont think that any music should recieve scorn or hate > towards it, this is a power that can draw out every emotion in us that > it should be respected not trashed. What if the emotion that it draws out of us is Hate? Violence? Fear? These are not healthy emotions and we should not let music create them in us. Music that does tend to do this SHOULD recieve scorn. Unless you think that Nazi Nationalistic Hymhs should recieve just as much ear time as Moby or more substanative artists. Though less extreme, "Hip-Hoppers" create the same standards - Theievery, murder, irreverent and violent sex. Take away these characteristics and there are many decent artists left, not all hip-hop(whatever that means) artists are bad, but in general at worst they are unacceptable and at best they are not worth my time. > Next did you know that even though you may not like puffy, his type of > music(hip-hop), inspired our beloved creator and others like BT, > Orbital, Meat Beat, ect. Excuse me? I believe Orbital and even Moby were recording long before Puffy got any air play at all. Roots of "electronica"(for lack of a better word, sorry word haters ^_^) are better described in pioneering groups such as Tangerine Dream or Daft Punk or Kraftwerk. I don't see how any hip-hopper has "inspired" Moby or any other electronic artist. If you can explain yourself better, then please do. > I could go on and on but i think that todays lesson is over. Dont be > so hard on music please. > Peace > Bri I'm not hard on Music, I'm hard on poor music ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "George N. Xanthopoulos" <gnx200@stern.nyu.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) puffy no-no Date: 04 Dec 1998 15:07:52 -0500 (EST) excuse me? hate and fear are not healthy emotions? pray tell, what is a healthy emotion? that seems like quite the arbitrary phrase. in my opinion, an emotion cannot be healthy or unhealthy, it is the way we deal with these emotions that makes us sane/insane, healthy/unhealthy, or whatever other descriptive phrases we use. listening to nazi nationalistic hymns can be very educational.. because the fact that you say it evokes hatred through one listening proves that it is powerful music. to chalk that sort of power to unimportant and untalented is, in a sense, ignorant. we, as humans, must learn from our past--not avoid it. experts of all sorts still analyze every part of nazi german aesthetic to understand how it so well rallied germans together. how else could we avoid a repeat? on the other topic, you speak of kraftwerk and daft punk and tangerine dream pre-dating hip-hop. however, i feel here that this is also in err. soul, jazz, blues, and even primitive tribal beats all contributed to the roots of hip-hop. i truly believe that hip-hop has much deeper roots than electronic--look at dj shadow who cites hip-hop as his number one influence. he moves his albums personally when he visits record stores from electronic to hip-hop because he thinks that that is where his beats come from. this is a difficult discussion, however, in the sense that music has such a varied history. you can look back to impressionistic music and the general avant garde... these are all roots. how about gospel and soul or even spoken word? what about the influence of culture? hip-hop is clearly associated with a deep sense of culture. what exactly is the culture of "electronica", as you call it--wallet chains, glow-sticks, kickers, and dc shoes--oops, almost forgot plur! if that's the case, i'd choose hip-hop any day. oh, and daft punk as an originator of electronic? excuse me? take a look back to klf, the orb, or liam of prodigy, dear... or better yet, what about first generation hip-hop in the late 60s and 70s or psychic tv and its precursors. let's not scream and shout at each other and say what we SHOULD do until we know all the facts. soapboxes are for kids. let's just all have some fun in the process, shall we? -gx i hope this does not sound too harsh... it WAS not intended to be taken personally at all. i've just had a terrible day. honestly. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Johnson <pj808@eatel.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) puffy no-no Date: 04 Dec 1998 15:30:18 -0600 if soap boxes are for kids then why are you on one? just a thought..PJ808 George N. Xanthopoulos wrote: > . soapboxes are for kids. > > -gx > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Johnson <pj808@eatel.net> Subject: (mobility) Got my Honey!! Date: 04 Dec 1998 15:50:38 -0600 Went to a local record store today to do some poking around..lo and behold I saw the Great Pumpkin!! I managed to get my own personal copy of Honey!!! I really like it a lot. It has the Rollo & Sister Bliss, Sharam Jey, and the Low Side mix..can't wait to spin it with some of my other stuff.. It also came with a little insert to get on a moby mailing list through DEF..kinda cool.. It cost me 14 bucks but well worth it...They were playing EIW at another store I went to. Kind of a cool day.. Now..if we could get all of this bickering off the list, then life would be perfect..not everyone has to like what everyone else likes..if fred likes puffy and salli likes tricky, who cares? Love in Christ.. PJ808 suprasized :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Giles <Steve.Giles@digital.com> Subject: RE: (mobility) Got my Honey!! Date: 04 Dec 1998 17:17:07 -0500 >>It also came with a little insert to get on a moby >>mailing list through DEF..kinda cool.. Curious. I got one without that card. If they're doing a specially priced import for the record, too, that would explain it. After all, the 12" I bought is packaged like a US release. Thick whiteboard, opens on the right, paper sleeve around the record. The promos were in those thin plasticoat sleeves, and they opened on the top. If you got the regular (no special price) import ($14 sounds right) and I got the special price one (mine was $7)then that would explain these small, insignificant differences. Hmmm... It's like saying that music is a bad thing because Puffy makes music. If you're not willing to look underneath the surface (radio & MTV)and see what's really out there, you can't say hip-hop/rap is crap. You don't even know what it is. You only know a part of it that sells well. You might as well denounce rock 'n' roll for Marilyn Manson. Too simple and aimless. Music isn't merely black/white, it's the entire color spectrum. There are no absolutes like 'hip-hop sucks'. I received Joy Division's 1CD best of, called Permanent, yesterday. In the liner notes Moby and Reznor are mentioned for doing covers of Joy Division. They're described as 'prolific musicians' or something close. Afterwards it also said that J.O. Barr was the only one who came close to capturing the 'beauty of ugliness' as Joy Division did. (referring to The Crow) Are you an active fan or a passive one? I know whenever I go to the music store (be it online or realworld) I always check out the Moby selections. Are you buying Moby stuff, or just listening to what you have now? How many are the vinyl people here? Speak up! I ask because I mentioned several cool records for sale at ebay the other day and nobody has bid on any of them. There about 10 records and an equal number of CDs. Some bargains, some ripoffs, but worth a glance at least. -Steve Ok, so you made it this far. Good for you. Remember that old token 'Ask and you shall receive'? Ask for Animal Rights Live next time you order from DEF. You have to ask, though. Hello, digesters! You'll see this regardless. Now that I've mentioned this I'd better order before they run out...mail me for DEF's current stocklist. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HOVEY <bhoveyredfive@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) puffy no-no Date: 05 Dec 1998 06:23:14 +0800 (SGT) Im sorry but all music deserves a fair listen. If you dont like it dont listen. Man why is the mind like a trap some times? And by the way it was Hip Hop that has inspired not puffy! Peace Bri ---Chris Bourke <cbourke1@bigred.unl.edu> wrote: > > > Fine!! It is I that you should blam than. Or should you???? You see > > this thing that we listen to with our ears is called music. Some of > > this music is harsh or nasty...or just would rather have your ass move > > to it. I dont think that any music should recieve scorn or hate > > towards it, this is a power that can draw out every emotion in us that > > it should be respected not trashed. > > > What if the emotion that it draws out of us is Hate? Violence? Fear? > These are not healthy emotions and we should not let music create them in > us. Music that does tend to do this SHOULD recieve scorn. Unless you > think that Nazi Nationalistic Hymhs should recieve just as much ear time > as Moby or more substanative artists. Though less extreme, > "Hip-Hoppers" create the same standards - Theievery, murder, irreverent > and violent sex. Take away these characteristics and there are many > decent artists left, not all hip-hop(whatever that means) artists are bad, > but in general at worst they are unacceptable and at best they are not > worth my time. > > > > > Next did you know that even though you may not like puffy, his type of > > music(hip-hop), inspired our beloved creator and others like BT, > > Orbital, Meat Beat, ect. > > Excuse me? I believe Orbital and even Moby were recording long before > Puffy got any air play at all. Roots of "electronica"(for lack of a > better word, sorry word haters ^_^) are better described in pioneering > groups such as Tangerine Dream or Daft Punk or Kraftwerk. > > I don't see how any hip-hopper has "inspired" Moby or any other electronic > artist. If you can explain yourself better, then please do. > > > I could go on and on but i think that todays lesson is over. Dont be > > so hard on music please. > > Peace > > Bri > > I'm not hard on Music, I'm hard on poor music > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "George N. Xanthopoulos" <gnx200@stern.nyu.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) puffy no-no Date: 04 Dec 1998 18:30:10 -0500 (EST) ...because the only way to respond to one soap-box is to set-up your own. at any rate, i did not mean to preach. i just intended to point out that it's a lot harder to determine the roots and influences of certain music than it may seem (let alone trying to figure out which music came first). have fun-gx btw: all you kids in florida--moby will be headlining a huge rave down there come mid-december. i believe the 17th, i may be wrong. i'll try and dig up more information on it. let's hope all these sporadic shows he's doing will get him a label, so we all of us poor kids can afford his next album, eh? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Johnson <pj808@eatel.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) Got my Honey!! Date: 04 Dec 1998 17:15:43 -0600 My version doesn't open up...and didn't include any promos..Just a cool looking pumpkin on the front..reminds me of an uncle I had..and three pix of the ever balding Moby on the back...and a little sticker that says "Made in England" The addy for the newsletter is: Moby c/o DEF P.O. Box 2477 London NW6 6NQ, UK or email def@mail.bogo.co.uk with "subscribe moby" in the subject line.. have great weekend..lucky me gets to work.. as always... PJ808 np: Skinny Puppies "Last Rights" the origional hippety hoppetty rapppettyy playazzzzzzz...j/k folks!! I enjoy rap, hip hop, and r&b on a rare occasion..just too much to listen to and so little time :-) Steve Giles wrote: > >>It also came with a little insert to get on a moby > >>mailing list through DEF..kinda cool.. > > Curious. I got one without that card. If they're doing a specially priced > import for the record, too, that would explain it. After all, the 12" I > bought is packaged like a US release. Thick whiteboard, opens on the right, > paper sleeve around the record. The promos were in those thin plasticoat > sleeves, and they opened on the top. If you got the regular (no special > price) import ($14 sounds right) and I got the special price one (mine was > $7)then that would explain these small, insignificant differences. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Johnson <pj808@eatel.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) puffy no-no Date: 04 Dec 1998 19:26:40 -0600 I agree with ya George..why does it really matter where the music influences come from? I like Moby because the music he makes moves me..I like any type of music that moves me..It just so happens that there isn't much hip hop or r&b music that moves me..but some people, like my girlfriend, love that type of music..not a big deal to me..it helps to have an open mind :-) btw-she did like the Rollo Sisters mix of Honey.. Where at in FL is this huge rave? I used to live in Pensacola..miss it greatly..laters..PJ808 George N. Xanthopoulos wrote: > ...because the only way to respond to one soap-box is to set-up your own. > > at any rate, i did not mean to preach. i just intended to point out that > it's a lot harder to determine the roots and influences of certain music > than it may seem (let alone trying to figure out which music came first). > > have fun-gx > > btw: all you kids in florida--moby will be headlining a huge rave down > there come mid-december. i believe the 17th, i may be wrong. i'll try and > dig up more information on it. let's hope all these sporadic shows he's > doing will get him a label, so we all of us poor kids can afford his next > album, eh? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Johnson <pj808@eatel.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) puffy no-no Date: 04 Dec 1998 19:27:27 -0600 I agree with ya George..why does it really matter where the music influences come from? I like Moby because the music he makes moves me..I like any type of music that moves me..It just so happens that there isn't much hip hop or r&b music that moves me..but some people, like my girlfriend, love that type of music..not a big deal to me..it helps to have an open mind :-) btw-she did like the Rollo and Sister Bliss mix of Honey.. Where at in FL is this huge rave? I used to live in Pensacola..miss it greatly..laters..PJ808 George N. Xanthopoulos wrote: > ...because the only way to respond to one soap-box is to set-up your own. > > at any rate, i did not mean to preach. i just intended to point out that > it's a lot harder to determine the roots and influences of certain music > than it may seem (let alone trying to figure out which music came first). > > have fun-gx > > btw: all you kids in florida--moby will be headlining a huge rave down > there come mid-december. i believe the 17th, i may be wrong. i'll try and > dig up more information on it. let's hope all these sporadic shows he's > doing will get him a label, so we all of us poor kids can afford his next > album, eh? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Johnson <pj808@eatel.net> Subject: (mobility) sorry for the multiple post.. Date: 04 Dec 1998 19:32:38 -0600 had to correct the sister bliss part :-) g-day to ya PJ808 np:Front 242..Mutage Mixage ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clay <clayev2k@ixpres.com> Subject: (mobility) :bt> let there be light Date: 04 Dec 1998 18:06:28 +0000 don't forget bt's remixes of let there be light by mike oldfield double 12" with mixes by hardfloor as well> this was the single that really put him on the map> clay ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clay <clayev2k@ixpres.com> Subject: (mobility) bt remixes Date: 04 Dec 1998 18:08:17 +0000 and bt and sasha's remix of madonna's drowned world and what was the lenny kravitz remix he did which was supposed to be pretty good....? clay ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clay <clayev2k@ixpres.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) puffy no-no Date: 04 Dec 1998 18:48:39 +0000 chris bourke wrote> > but in general at worst they are unacceptable and at best they are not > worth my time. > chris>>>>> clay wrote> you are a dick> clay ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clay <clayev2k@ixpres.com> Subject: (mobility) vocal majority Date: 04 Dec 1998 18:56:06 +0000 > Now..if we could get all of this bickering off the list, then life would > be perfect..not everyone has to like what everyone else likes.. oh!? were someone bickkkkering? life would be purrrrrrfect if we all agreed on evvvveryyyything? well....here here...then..... i agree!!!!!! can't we all just get along? the vocal majority is neither. cheerios> clay ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Mora" <synth@swcp.com> Subject: (mobility) for BT fans Date: 04 Dec 1998 20:04:21 -0700 (MST) Hi all, Apologies for the non-Moby post, but for the BT fans in the house: there is a mailing list dedicated to BT at btonline@extra.hu To my knowledge it is the only BT list on the Net. Some good info floating around there, but I'm sure they could always use more members and input ... - - - - - - - - - - - - --------------- vince http://www.vanishingson.com/ --------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - communicate across barriers ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Michael Bourke <cbourke1@bigred.unl.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) puffy no-no Date: 04 Dec 1998 22:52:24 -0600 George N. Xanthopoulos: >excuse me? hate and fear are not healthy emotions? pray tell, what is a >healthy emotion? that seems like quite the arbitrary phrase. in my >opinion, an emotion cannot be healthy or unhealthy, it is the way we deal >with these emotions that makes us sane/insane, healthy/unhealthy, or >whatever other descriptive phrases we use. listening to nazi >nationalistic hymns can be very educational.. because the fact that you >say it evokes hatred through one listening proves that it is powerful >music. to chalk that sort of power to unimportant and untalented is, in a >sense, ignorant. we, as humans, must learn from our past--not avoid it. >experts of all sorts still analyze every part of nazi german aesthetic to >understand how it so well rallied germans together. how else could we >avoid a repeat? If we OBJECTIVELY study the effects of music, propaganda, sociology, then yes it does have a purpose. My original intention in my statements was that music creating these unhealthy emotions (hate, fear, etc.) WAS dangerous. hate inevitably leads to violence. Fear inevitably leads to alienation. In addition to the outward effects of negative emotions, they are inwardly detrimental to one's psychological well being. As you said, when we allow music to overtake us and allow these emotions to manifest themselves in negative ways then we are doing a great disservice to ourselves and others. This is what I meant in my original post. I was merely pointing out that not all music is good or has positive effects, the claim of the author I was responding to. >on the other topic, you speak of kraftwerk and daft punk and tangerine >dream pre-dating hip-hop. however, i feel here that this is also in err. I didn't say that, I said that Moby predated Puffy and that the roots of electronic music could be found not in hip-hop but in those artists listed above. Please re-read my original post. If I was unclear, then I do apologize, but this is what I meant. >soul, jazz, blues, and even primitive tribal beats all contributed to the >roots of hip-hop. i truly believe that hip-hop has much deeper roots than >electronic--look at dj shadow who cites hip-hop as his number one >influence. he moves his albums personally when he visits record stores >from electronic to hip-hop because he thinks that that is where his beats >come from. this is a difficult discussion, however, in the sense that >music has such a varied history. you can look back to impressionistic >music and the general avant garde... these are all roots. how about >gospel and soul or even spoken word? what about the influence of culture? >hip-hop is clearly associated with a deep sense of culture. what exactly >is the culture of "electronica", as you call it--wallet chains, >glow-sticks, kickers, and dc shoes--oops, almost forgot plur! if that's >the case, i'd choose hip-hop any day. Sorry, but I've never had the "electronica experience" I couldn't comment on the culture, I'm not a part of it. I merely listen to the music for its own value, not the culture surrounding it, if this is infact the case. As for the roots of music, yes, I agree it is very difficult to identify influences when styles become so homogonized that they become seemingly original. And to a certain degree all american music has foundations in the beat-rhythmn and jazz music. Electronic owes to some degree credit to "black" roots. My original statements were not meant to deny this, rather to deny that Moby or other electronic music(the groups listed included Orbital, Moby and others) were NOT influenced by Moby or the loads of crap that is coming out of "hip-hop" today. Please, if you can demonstrate that they are, then do so. >soapboxes are for kids. No, Trix are for kids, and I'm not on a soap box, this seems to me to be a pretty good discussion/debate that we have here, through which we can both learn(hopefully). What is wrong with that? > >let's just all have some fun in the process, shall we? >-gx Okay >i hope this does not sound too harsh... it WAS not intended to be taken >personally at all. i've just had a terrible day. honestly. Cheer up then. Steve Giles Wrote: >Hmmm... It's like saying that music is a bad thing because Puffy makes >music. If you're not willing to look underneath the surface (radio & MTV)and >see what's really out there, you can't say hip-hop/rap is crap. You don't >even know what it is. You only know a part of it that sells well. You might >as well denounce rock 'n' roll for Marilyn Manson. Too simple and aimless. >Music isn't merely black/white, it's the entire color spectrum. There are no >absolutes like 'hip-hop sucks'. What I meant with my generalization was the radio/mainstream/MTV hip-hop crap certainly, from your message you would agree to this. I think it's justified. And as for my not knowing what it is, then please explain to me what "hip-hop" actually is. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clay <clayev2k@ixpres.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) clay no-no Date: 04 Dec 1998 23:41:31 +0000 > And as for my not knowing what it is, then please explain to me > what "hip-hop" actually is. > > hip-hop is a music......which had it's roots in ghetto playgrounds and dancehalls where various dj's would play music on records in sync with each other to create new musical, rhythmic forms....previously unbeknowest to the world. incorporating musics by groups as diverse as germany's kraftwerk (an early hip-hop favorite item to mix) and parliament/funkadelic/old school jazz/ beethoven/rock and roll new combinations of sounds were created and with that came that poet/mc's who would talk/rap over the combinations of beats> like ANY music some of this turned into some absolutely brilliant experimentation and party music and just like all music some of it became very uncreative and oftentimes violent, base, sexually offensive, and dangerous> of course much of this was embraced by an industry who knows the profitability of sex and horror and violence> unfortunately this image often overshadowed the positive voices of hip-hop. in the creation of this msuic america created it's counterpart to rock and roll wherein a voice of a people without the money and space for electric guitars drums etc could make some noise get funky and get with a fat beat> and sometimes ya know that's what it's all about> everything else is just square dancing> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i should probably publically apologize to chris and the list for my previous comment but ANYTIME ANYONE can say ALL of any type of music is worthless >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that is just so stupid> you can't even tell many blacks that ALL country music sucks because they will tell you well...what about this and what about that that stuff is fat my ma and pa used to always play that.....etc. or ALL classical sucks or ALL metal sucks or ALL those people over there suck or any of that sort of thing. at least my attack was personal> and not just aimed at a whole huge phenomenon that i can't even begin to comprehend! forgive me father> ? clay ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: <FRIE1_98@worc.ac.uk> Subject: Re: (mobility) puffy no-no Date: 05 Dec 1998 11:50:19 +0000 > Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 18:48:39 +0000 > From: clay <clayev2k@ixpres.com> > Organization: evolution2000 > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (mobility) puffy no-no > Reply-to: mobility@lists.xmission.com > chris bourke wrote> > > > but in general at worst they are unacceptable and at best they are not > > worth my time. > > > > > chris>>>>> > > > > > clay wrote> > you are a dick> > > > > clay > > Oh yeah that's a very mature and constructive comment. That will diffuse the situation!!? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: <FRIE1_98@worc.ac.uk> Subject: (mobility) References: <E6E62FB6.27E5@ixpres.com> Date: 05 Dec 1998 12:02:49 +0000 > From: Tim Beecher <T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk> > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (mobility) "techno" samples vs "hip hop" samples was:Moby News. > Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 18:43:02 +0000 > Reply-to: mobility@lists.xmission.com > I think the story behind punk, hip-hop and rap are very > similar. The Beastie Boys have married the two together > brilliantly, in my opinion, (not that it counts for much > here!). > > Like I've said before, if Moby were to collaborate it > should be with the Beastie's. > What about 'The Prodigy'? > Happy Christmas and may communicate some more in the New > Year! > > TMB > > ---------------------- > Tim Beecher > Cranfield University > T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HOVEY <bhoveyredfive@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) puffy no-no Date: 05 Dec 1998 05:48:03 -0800 (PST) ha ha ha ! Clay rocks!!!!!!!!!! ---clay <clayev2k@ixpres.com> wrote: > > chris bourke wrote> > > > but in general at worst they are unacceptable and at best they are not > > worth my time. > > > > > chris>>>>> > > > > > clay wrote> > you are a dick> > > > > clay > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HOVEY <bhoveyredfive@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) for BT fans Date: 05 Dec 1998 06:20:24 -0800 (PST) nice web site vince, but your BT link doesnt work! this broke my heart, please fix the link, great page though! Peace Bri ---Vince Mora <synth@swcp.com> wrote: > > Hi all, > > Apologies for the non-Moby post, but for the BT fans in the > house: there is a mailing list dedicated to BT at > > btonline@extra.hu > > To my knowledge it is the only BT list on the Net. Some good > info floating around there, but I'm sure they could always use > more members and input ... > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - --------------- > vince http://www.vanishingson.com/ > --------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - > > communicate across barriers > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clay <clayev2k@ixpres.com> Subject: [Fwd: Subject: Re: (mobility) > clay wrote: (bye)] Date: 05 Dec 1998 08:44:08 +0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------6A4744F8A81 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i am forwarding a letter damian sent to me to the list so you can see my last post AND also see how our very distinguished and thoughtful owner/moderator/operator has handled the situation>>>>>>> (kudos to damian.......nuff said) so maybe i won't unsub today there's always tomorrow i somehow feel i belong here and yet..........................................somewhere else> sorry for my name-calling but i DO LET IT get personal>>>>>>>>>>> it's who i am it's what i do it's who we are>>>>>>>>>> quit hiding behind your bullshit> if you don't know electronica then don't blab about it>>> if ya wanna know about it....... check it out....listen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>give it a whirl> hip-hop techno trance ambient hardcore happy d-n-b jungle electro goa house dub acid deep it's all so fucking good when you the find the good stuff> and it's there> more than you can swallow and still never enough> please>>>>>>>>>>>>shut up and listen open your heart your "thoughtful debate" bites the kids are the music and the music is in our eyes kiss the girl you love and take it to the sky i go in love if i somehow didn't come in with it> clay --------------6A4744F8A81 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: damian@xmission.com Received: from mail.xmission.com (mail.xmission.com [198.60.22.22]) by mail.ixpres.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA27322 for <clayev2k@ixpres.com>; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 05:09:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from slc202h.modem.xmission.com ([166.70.9.202] helo=xmission.com) by mail.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 2.04 #1) id 0zmHPy-0002Jg-00 for clayev2k@ixpres.com; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 06:06:39 -0700 Message-ID: <36693010.3D43573E@xmission.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <E0zmCUw-00009Q-00@lists.xmission.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UIDL: 10a1729a7e76be0713b5404d392479a3 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 Hello Clay, The message below bounced because it was caught in a filter. I would of normally forwarded this email to the list but you have requested to be unsubscribed. I won't do both. Maybe you were a little hot under the collar when writing this, so here's your chance to stop from being unsubbed. Even though we disagree on a few things, I'd miss your contribution to the list! But maybe it's not worthwhile to you. I don't know. So basically, I'm going to ignore this letter unless you really want to be unsubbed... if so, write me back. I'll take care of it. Or if you want to take care of it yourself, check the following address: http://www.xmission.com/~damian/mobility.html Take care, Damian. > Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 00:07:00 +0000 > From: clay <clayev2k@ixpres.com> > Organization: evolution2000 > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (mobility) > clay wrote: (bye) > > > > clay wrote> > > please unsubscribe me from this list> > > it seems all-too-difficult to read some of the regular > on-going puffy-shit (who cares??) > especially from those without a clue...... > we all know puff bites....JEEEEEZ!!!!!! > we get it! > even after several requests to let the puffy THING DIE!!!!!!! > it lives on and on and i'm not pissed that it's off-topic > (I LIKE OFF_TOPIC SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) > it's just that it is so > far from right-field and unaware > and blah fuckin blah> > commercialism sucks > moby rules > hip-hop sucks > techno rules > i've been here too long>>>>>>>>>maybe > > and if i can't just be cool about some of the crap i read then > well i just shouldn't be reading it> > > have fun> > > clay > > e v o l u t i o n 2 0 0 0 > > s i L L y > > by the way did you hear puffy puffy puffy> > and oh chris don't like puffy --------------6A4744F8A81-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michaela Gerstner" <plovious@geocities.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) puffy no-no Date: 05 Dec 1998 10:13:44 -0700 OK.. i am really beginning to wonder what is going on here? i thought we got all this crap over with? i thought that we were going to stop fighting over useless stuff.. or at least save it for once a month. i didn't have a chance to respond to any of this earlier because of a faulty mail server, but now it's working and now i'm responding. everyone has different tastes in everything. some like puffy, and some don't. personally, i don't care. but i am not going to let that be the judge of anyone on this list. whether you like jazz, rock, muzak, whatever... i'm happy for you! you have found your happiness and i'm glad about that. what you like should not be the judge of you, but unfortunantly humans are critical animals and feel they must judge to better themselves. basically, what i'm saying is that people are entitled to like what they want and should not be judged. i listen to diverse types of music and am very happy doing so. all forms of music influence each other and should not be put down. without country and jazz and people like kenny g., all other music would be different. dj's would not have anything to mix or sample and it would be a very depressing world if we only had one form of music. so stop this nonsense of dominating your tastes over others. you should be happy that everyone listens to something different because it brings excitement to this list. these last few posts, however, have not been exciting but dumb. i don't know whether this is holiday shopping stress or what but it needs to stop. and soapboxes aren't only for kids.. they're also for short people like me to be seen and heard. so, now i am stepping off my extra tall stack of rickety soapboxes, where i had to stand to get over your bickering. and george, where in FL is moby going to be? i use to live there and i have friends that love moby and would be interested in knowing. any info. would be great! plovious -----Original Message----- > > >George N. Xanthopoulos: >>excuse me? hate and fear are not healthy emotions? pray tell, what is a >>healthy emotion? that seems like quite the arbitrary phrase. in my >>opinion, an emotion cannot be healthy or unhealthy, it is the way we deal >>with these emotions that makes us sane/insane, healthy/unhealthy, or >>whatever other descriptive phrases we use. listening to nazi >>nationalistic hymns can be very educational.. because the fact that you >>say it evokes hatred through one listening proves that it is powerful >>music. to chalk that sort of power to unimportant and untalented is, in a >>sense, ignorant. we, as humans, must learn from our past--not avoid it. >>experts of all sorts still analyze every part of nazi german aesthetic to >>understand how it so well rallied germans together. how else could we >>avoid a repeat? > >If we OBJECTIVELY study the effects of music, propaganda, sociology, then >yes it does have a purpose. My original intention in my statements was that >music creating these unhealthy emotions (hate, fear, etc.) WAS dangerous. >hate inevitably leads to violence. Fear inevitably leads to alienation. In >addition to the outward effects of negative emotions, they are inwardly >detrimental to one's psychological well being. As you said, when we allow >music to overtake us and allow these emotions to manifest themselves in >negative ways then we are doing a great disservice to ourselves and others. >This is what I meant in my original post. I was merely pointing out that >not all music is good or has positive effects, the claim of the author I was >responding to. > >>on the other topic, you speak of kraftwerk and daft punk and tangerine >>dream pre-dating hip-hop. however, i feel here that this is also in err. > >I didn't say that, I said that Moby predated Puffy and that the roots of >electronic music could be found not in hip-hop but in those artists listed >above. Please re-read my original post. If I was unclear, then I do >apologize, but this is what I meant. > >>soul, jazz, blues, and even primitive tribal beats all contributed to the >>roots of hip-hop. i truly believe that hip-hop has much deeper roots than >>electronic--look at dj shadow who cites hip-hop as his number one >>influence. he moves his albums personally when he visits record stores >>from electronic to hip-hop because he thinks that that is where his beats >>come from. this is a difficult discussion, however, in the sense that >>music has such a varied history. you can look back to impressionistic >>music and the general avant garde... these are all roots. how about >>gospel and soul or even spoken word? what about the influence of culture? >>hip-hop is clearly associated with a deep sense of culture. what exactly >>is the culture of "electronica", as you call it--wallet chains, >>glow-sticks, kickers, and dc shoes--oops, almost forgot plur! if that's >>the case, i'd choose hip-hop any day. > >Sorry, but I've never had the "electronica experience" I couldn't comment on >the culture, I'm not a part of it. I merely listen to the music for its own >value, not the culture surrounding it, if this is infact the case. > >As for the roots of music, yes, I agree it is very difficult to identify >influences when styles become so homogonized that they become seemingly >original. And to a certain degree all american music has foundations in the >beat-rhythmn and jazz music. Electronic owes to some degree credit to >"black" roots. My original statements were not meant to deny this, rather >to deny that Moby or other electronic music(the groups listed included >Orbital, Moby and others) were NOT influenced by Moby or the loads of crap >that is coming out of "hip-hop" today. Please, if you can demonstrate that >they are, then do so. > >>soapboxes are for kids. > >No, Trix are for kids, and I'm not on a soap box, this seems to me to be a >pretty good discussion/debate that we have here, through which we can both >learn(hopefully). What is wrong with that? > >> >>let's just all have some fun in the process, shall we? >>-gx > >Okay > >>i hope this does not sound too harsh... it WAS not intended to be taken >>personally at all. i've just had a terrible day. honestly. > >Cheer up then. > > >Steve Giles Wrote: >>Hmmm... It's like saying that music is a bad thing because Puffy makes >>music. If you're not willing to look underneath the surface (radio & >MTV)and >>see what's really out there, you can't say hip-hop/rap is crap. You don't >>even know what it is. You only know a part of it that sells well. You might >>as well denounce rock 'n' roll for Marilyn Manson. Too simple and aimless. >>Music isn't merely black/white, it's the entire color spectrum. There are >no >>absolutes like 'hip-hop sucks'. > >What I meant with my generalization was the radio/mainstream/MTV hip-hop >crap certainly, from your message you would agree to this. I think it's >justified. And as for my not knowing what it is, then please explain to me >what "hip-hop" actually is. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clay <clayev2k@ixpres.com> Subject: (mobility) @@@@@@@american history x Date: 05 Dec 1998 20:39:49 +0000 i saw american history x with my son tonight. this is my review: from the beginning, one quickly realizes <american history x> is a story which provides no time to slowly get into your characters, their environment, or their situations. from the outset, danger lurks on the streets and violence not only threatens to, but indeed does, erupt in the streets. like <in cold blood> and <face off> we witness a crime as an opener. and more than one. thusly we are thrust into a world of vengeance, pride, and avarice. racism and religion mix with fear and anger and the streets of venice, california become a hotbed for underclass frustrations, both black and white. the story is of two brothers who fall into neo-nazi fanaticism as a result of their paternal teachings and the subsequent death of their father. the story is simple to follow and believable. at times, the dialogue seems heavily didactic and yet moves along well enough, rewarding the viewer with the subsequent violence that such dramatic philosophies inevitably lead to. stacy keach is perfect as the founder/benefactor of the skinhead organization. his evil charisma oozes through the celluloid as he projects his very real agenda onto the streets and basketball courts of a quaint california beach city. elliot gould is a natural as a liberal jewish teacher dating the boys' mother. edward norton is gripping as a skinhead who amazingly transforms his racist outlook during his prison sentence. in fact, this is the one difficult equation of the film, for me to handle. that is, in that i have never known any person of a truly racist tendency to ever come out of jail less racist than when he went in. it has always seemed that prison reinforces the hateful nature of racial differences, as it only reflects the very worst of what our society can offer. but let us imagine the exception, and <american history x> does. the music is done by anne dudley (art of noise) and is used quite sparingly and to the utmost effect> but of all the qualities this film brings to bear, it is young edward furlong's performance who astonishes you by truly capturing the nihilistic angst, fear, pride, and disaffected attitude of a frightened and fearless 90's american youth. this is a story of rage and reaction. it is a story of love and misery. it is a story of life and death in a country where we're all still learning how to get real. it is a story of the history we write together ....tonight and tomorrow at one point, the older brother, derek, tells the younger, dan: "i'm just so tired of being pissed off...." let us hope the lessons such a film offers are not too late for our kids. and from what the boys spending the night here, tonight, are saying, maybe it's not. clay 12/5/98 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: UHF@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) References: <E6E62FB6.27E5@ixpres.com> Date: 05 Dec 1998 23:58:11 EST In a message dated 12/5/98 6:05:10 AM Central Standard Time, FRIE1_98@worc.ac.uk writes: << What about 'The Prodigy'? >> he did do a remix of "everybody is in the palce" for the prodigy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michaela Gerstner" <plovious@geocities.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) @@@@@@@american history x Date: 06 Dec 1998 00:11:37 -0700 wow! now i really want to see this movie! unfortunately, i don't go to the theatres much because tickets are way over priced! $7.50!!! makes me want to live back in gainesville again, where it was $2.75 for students... ::sigh!:: i did see psycho on friday night. i recommend it to everyone! gus van sant (i think that's the guy) did a wonderful job with it! vince vaughn, ann hesche.. everyone did a remarkable job acting. there are still some characteristics left in it from the original, but the new modern twists just make it wonderful. this isn't as nice as clay's review... i'm not that artistic, especially after working 8 hrs straight and just now getting off. anyways, time to go to sleep. :) plovious -----Original Message----- heald <sarahheald@hotmail.com>; rames <order@redmailorder.com>; mobility@lists.xmission.com <mobility@lists.xmission.com>; Greta Bollinger <gbolling@vsla.edu>; mjo <Epifanny@aol.com>; isvara <IWilson@kilstock.com>; Dr. Peter Wirsching <petewing@scripps.edu>; CC <caseyscurios@earthlink.net>; michael.demattei@milliman.com <michael.demattei@milliman.com>; Tim Klepeis/adams ave grille <adamsavenuegrill@home.com> >i saw american history x with my son tonight. >this is my review: > > >from the beginning, one quickly realizes <american history x> is >a story which provides no time to slowly get into your characters, >their environment, or their situations. >from the outset, danger lurks on the streets >and violence not only threatens to, >but indeed does, erupt in the streets. >like <in cold blood> and <face off> we >witness a crime as an opener. >and more than one. >thusly we are thrust into a world of vengeance, pride, and avarice. >racism and religion mix with fear and anger >and the streets of venice, california >become a hotbed for underclass frustrations, both black and white. >the story is of two brothers who fall into neo-nazi >fanaticism as a result of their >paternal teachings and the subsequent death of their father. >the story is simple to follow and believable. >at times, the dialogue seems heavily didactic >and yet moves along well enough, rewarding the viewer >with the subsequent violence that such dramatic philosophies >inevitably lead to. >stacy keach is perfect as the founder/benefactor of the >skinhead organization. his evil charisma oozes through >the celluloid as he projects his very real agenda onto the streets and >basketball courts of a quaint california beach city. >elliot gould is a natural as a liberal jewish teacher dating the boys' >mother. >edward norton is gripping as a skinhead who amazingly transforms his >racist outlook during his prison sentence. >in fact, this is the one difficult equation of the film, for me to >handle. >that is, in that i have never known any person of a truly racist >tendency to ever come out of jail >less racist than when he went in. >it has always seemed that prison reinforces the hateful nature of >racial differences, as it only reflects the very worst of what our >society can offer. >but let us imagine the exception, and <american history x> does. >the music is done by anne dudley (art of noise) >and is used quite sparingly and to the utmost effect> > >but of all the qualities this film brings to bear, >it is young edward furlong's performance who astonishes you by >truly capturing the nihilistic >angst, fear, pride, and disaffected attitude >of a frightened and fearless 90's american youth. >this is a story of rage and reaction. >it is a story of love and misery. >it is a story of life and death in a country >where we're all still learning how to get real. >it is a story of the history we write together ....tonight >and tomorrow > >at one point, the older brother, derek, tells the younger, dan: >"i'm just so tired of being pissed off...." > > >let us hope the lessons such a film offers >are not too late for our kids. >and from what the boys spending the night here, tonight, are saying, >maybe it's not. > > > >clay 12/5/98 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bill tatalovich <wt3@cec.wustl.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) @@@@@@@Psycho redux Date: 06 Dec 1998 08:24:52 -0600 (CST) On Sun, 6 Dec 1998, Michaela Gerstner wrote: > i did see psycho on friday night. i recommend it to everyone! gus van sant > (i think that's the guy) did a wonderful job with it! vince vaughn, ann > hesche.. everyone did a remarkable job acting. there are still some > characteristics left in it from the original, but the new modern twists just > make it wonderful. this isn't as nice as clay's review... i'm not that > artistic, especially after working 8 hrs straight and just now getting off. > anyways, time to go to sleep. :) Okay, so I saw Psycho on thursday night in an empty theater (ah, the wonders of having a friend who works at a movie theater), and I'm going to disagree with Plovious. I mean, hell, it's Psycho in Gus Van Sant's hands, so it doesn't suck, but I guess I was expecting more. Basically, if you've seen the old Psycho, you've seen the new one. Same storyboarding (I found out later that they physically used the old storyboards), slightly different script ("Wait, let me get my walkman"??? Please...), very similar acting...in other words, nothing special. Vince Vaughn did a really decent job as Norman, but it would have taken the performance of a lifetime to beat out ol' Anthony Perkins. So yeah...my vote is, Psycho's good if you can see it for free. Paying for it, now that's another thing. Bill Tatalovich |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | Reverend Bill Tatalovich | Home page: | | | http://students.cec.wustl.edu/~wt3/ | | wt3@cec.wustl.edu |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | personnel@kwur.wustl.edu | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clay <clayev2k@ixpres.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) @@@@@@@Psycho redux Date: 06 Dec 1998 07:48:57 +0000 okay okay....psycho clay's gon respond and say his bit about weirdo psycho movies in america coming out of hollywood> there is wayyyyy to much of it to begin with. it almost explains our violence> weirdos who keep mom stored up in the upstairs years after she's dead?! jeez...it was stupid 3o years ago. it's still dumb! and it's a shot by shot remake...practically! it's psycho worship and if you're gonna remix it...then remix it. don't just put a splash of color in it! i think in this country we need kids to see and understand real violence and with a moral to it> so as to understand one thing....it sucks. creepy asses coming out walls and growing fangs and bititng legs and chewing brains and laughing and feeding dead mommy and killing and scaring all the kids at the after-dance party..... that's all perversion sick retarded stupid and a waste of time and money. let's see and feel what it's like to have a friend crushed to death so maybe we won't have THAT happen to us........ cause baby there's lots of that happening (and waiting to happen) to those who thrill on the sick rush of hate and revenge. it's human and natural and it's happening round the world. we should have good art which shows people behaving at their best and good art which shows people at their worst. but people who drink blood and pop outta tv sets and walk on ceilings and fly and scare little kids???????????!!!!! that's hollywood at it's sick perverted uncreative and greedy worst. too bad van zant couldn't do more with his (and our) time and money. blah clay ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: theShackofXaq <zbentz@d.umn.edu> Subject: (mobility) clay bashing Date: 06 Dec 1998 16:09:25 -0600 (CST) ok, i'm sorry. i've tried very hard to keep my mouth shut and just let things go in one ear and out the other, but clay has gove too far. if this gets me kicked off the list, then fine. i've been here since the begining of the list and have had some good times, but more often than not i've had to delete thousands of messages that don't even deal with techno, much less moby or music of any kind. i'm only postinmg this to everyone because i think clay deserves to be properly delt with in a public environment. On Sun, 6 Dec 1998, clay wrote: > weirdo psycho movies in america coming out of hollywood> you're right. no one anywhere but in hollywood has ever made a horror movie. > weirdos who keep mom stored up in the upstairs years after she's dead?! > jeez...it was stupid 3o years ago. > it's still dumb! you're right clay, insanity is dumb. we should make fun of the clinically insane. they are just so darn silly aren't they!!! > i think in this country we need kids to see and understand > real violence > and with a moral to it> violence never has a moral. to commit violence requires a complete abandonment of morals. even violence commited to save a life. if you believe in the whole god idea, to hurt anything is to hurt god, right? please give me an example of "real violence." > creepy asses coming out walls and growing fangs and bititng legs and > chewing brains and laughing and feeding dead mommy and > killing and scaring all the kids at the after-dance party..... > that's all perversion sick retarded stupid and a waste of time and > money. "perversion sick retarted stupid." clay, your posts are always a joy to de-code. you have no understanding of the human mind, do you? you claim to have a child, but you come off sounding like a pissed off 14 year old kid. i'm only 22, but you make me feel like an old scholor. i don't know shit and i admit it, but you make me feel good about myself. horror film and writing is only one of many ways the we as humans have of dealing with our world. in the past, it explained the things that science had yet to define. it was folk stories and myth. it's no different today. sure, almost all of what you call "hollywood" movies are made to get money and not to further our understanding of ourselves. that's because more and more people are getting less and less of an education. few people have time to read a book with a deep look into thought prosess. it's all "get to the point" and "action action now." there are far too many things to blame this on, but my favorate scapegoat is television and bad parenting. i was lucky enough to have a mother who read to me every night and gave me books for birthdays and christmas. i also grew up in front of a television but spent just as much time with books. but i digress... horror represents the unknown all around us. the confusion and alienataion we all feel. the fear of being judged. this is probably why horror and religion go hand in hand, and why the vampire myth is so strong in today's scociety. many people fear that they are evil and can never be accepted into heaven. they love the material world and the world of the flesh. it's all we can really know, isn't it? religion, like horror, can really only be speculation and belief. you can never prove the existance of ghosts or god, can you? you can only say "i think i saw a ghost" or "i think i saw the face of god." to say that horror is "dumb" is to say the god is "dumb." to me. god is just as likely to exist as lestat (a character from anne rice.) > let's see and feel what it's like to have a friend > crushed to death > so maybe we won't have THAT happen to us........ > cause baby there's lots of that happening (and waiting to happen) a lot of people are being crushed to death? where? > to those who thrill on the sick rush of hate > and revenge. i could give you a few examples of christians who thrill on the sick rush of hate. > it's human and natural and it's happening round the world. yes. hate is human. death is human. the unknown is human. sickness is human. insanity is human. > we should have good art which shows people behaving at their best and > good art which shows people at their worst. (excuse me) oh fuck you. what is "good art?" what is our best and worst? i can assure you that your "best" is someone else's "worst." i've been studying art for over 5 years and i still don't even know what the hell "art" really is! > but people who drink blood and pop outta tv sets and > walk on ceilings and fly and scare little kids???????????!!!!! > that's hollywood at it's sick perverted uncreative and greedy worst. that's every child's fairytale. that's dreams. that's the wonderful human imagination. that's where religion begins and ends, you fool! what's your idea of the ideal human life span, clay? to be born, grow up, go to work, plant a tree, raise a familly, and die quietly? to never qestion reality? to never dream? to love everyone while they shit on your face? or is it to love life and death and change. to change the world around you. there are millions of "nice" people who will be forgotten long before people like hitler or atilla the hun or christ or ceaser. good can only shine next to evil. we all need a dark side to overcome. to say it is "dumb" is, well, dumb. clay, i hope you were just trying to through some shit around, and that you wen't really serious about the things you said. it's statements like your's that i find trully horrifying. maybe i should make a movie out of them.... [xaq] ps. this will be my last post untill i can find something to say about moby. maybe we could all try that? "i think a lot, but it never helps me, so i stop. but i really enjoy thinking." Masafumi Sanai-photographer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clay <clayev2k@ixpres.com> Subject: (mobility) Re: the anti clay Date: 06 Dec 1998 17:11:04 +0000 > "i think a lot, but it never helps me, so i stop. for some reason xaq of shaq....now is that your name......?.....or is that a costume you're wearing? oh...i digress so quickly don't i? but you use this same quote (above) every time you come down off of your hill (is that olympus?) and though it is old...it is also ...well....goofy. in your post...you said you were a scholar (>scholor) but i dare ask....don't scholars think or are you the exception? maybe i don't ponder the actual concept of "thinking" enough to actually quote japanese photograhers on the subject but i have read and enjoyed enough art, philosophy, politics, history, culture, poetry, erotica, psychology, science, and astrology to know..... maybe one....maybe two things. and i know about kids who venture out on high horses. but alas..... it seems i hurt your feelings a while back when i (and others) ridiculed your smarmy little anecdote about being stuck with a smelly person who won't leave you alone> poor joe college> i am glad you like who you are. i don't.......not now...... never did really but who knows?....maybe that can change because you see..... at least i've got you pissed off enough to come down and talk to us peons as you PUNISH me! (?) in front of well.....a handful, to say the least. at least that would seem to be your mission should you be willing to accept it>>>>>> what you don't understand MR. XAQ is that i would gladly invite everybody on this list to personally meet me AND YOU SIR and to discuss this matter further over chips and dip beer and a polka. i'll give you my address but if i recall correctly you already have that. remember? besides....i love a good party with lively discussions and ALL! so........>>>>>>>i write reviews sometimes and share my opinions with others. i'm not always polite or easy to swallow but I AM NOT AFRAID to voice myself and ya know what bro? there are people who say things like > > ha ha ha ! Clay rocks!!!!!!!!!!<< and numerous others who have asked me NOT to leave the list (privately) because i do ACTUALLY know how to provoke a decent, if not thoughtful, dialogue amongst the minions...... even if it means "taking a piss at things" (an english phrase)> a-a-a-an-and i accept myself as part of that minion, unlike you who (from the beginning) have carried your lil boy lord fauntleroy act precisely far enough to get you where you are today. in front of ME and GOD and well...a handful of viewers. so you didn't like my review? gosh....i'm crushed like grapes and ready to be drunk! sorry. but i still i believe in L O V E and that is why i share myself with all these good people HERE every chance i get.....besides myself not having a life, of course. NEVERTHELESS>>>>there are people who LOVE me xaq> (ya dig?) i've been beaten upon by nazis in the street for being a commie and then turned upon and called a nazi by the same commies i was defendin! i've fought wars with women whom i've loved and found them later to be my best friends. i've walked with the devil and praised the wisdom of god with him.... and quite alone. i have laughed and cried at the same time and i will die as i am born again. yes...xaq....you might say that i'm...clay is....as my friend syl puts it....truly a nut-ass! you've no idea....really. but i'm glad you came down to say hi. it was nice of you. i won't even take your points one by one. there really weren't any (except the f*** you was well put!). oh...as for being 14....god..don't i wish! better than 22 with a book and a sampler up your arse......there young skywalker. young clay reads at near college level (he's 13) and is an A student so don't worry bout LiTerAzY round here sarge> i'm glad your folks read you christmas stories LAST year and so made you a real wonderful XAQ of a human being...... as opposed to a XAQ of some other crud. would love to lunch and talk this over further with you when you are REALLY ready to DEAL WITH CLAY. and as you said THIS MUST BE DONE!!!!!!!!!!!! (cuff em dano) good luck son. godspeed and bless your heart. but hey....seriously...no hard feelings. it's sometimes how we become friends. clay evolution2000 silly At first we cannot see beyond the path that leads downward to dark and hateful things - but no light or beauty will ever come from the man who cannot bear this sight. Light is always born of darkness, and the sun never yet stood still in heaven to satisfy man's longing or to still his fears. MODERN MAN IN SEARCH OF A SOUL ~C. G. Jung ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HOVEY <bhoveyredfive@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: the anti clay Date: 06 Dec 1998 17:45:41 -0800 (PST) If Clay were to leave this list it would be like loseing RYU again. And i was the one who has written the little comments egging Clay on...ha ha clay rocks. Hey i call it like i see them. I think that clay gives this list a fire that we need.Ive said enough. Peace Bri Ps shaq attack or what ever your name is, this is a list to have fun with which i think that you forget so offten now with this and the whole puffy thing under your belt i cant wait to see what foul thing comes out of your moth the next time you open it again. Sorry......I reread the message again and got angry ---clay <clayev2k@ixpres.com> wrote: > > > "i think a lot, but it never helps me, so i stop. > > for some reason xaq of shaq....now is that your name......?.....or is > that a costume you're wearing? > oh...i digress so quickly don't i? > but you use this same quote (above) every time you come > down off of your hill (is that olympus?) and though it is old...it is > also ...well....goofy. > > in your post...you said you were a scholar (>scholor) > but i dare ask....don't scholars think or are you the exception? > maybe i don't ponder the actual concept of "thinking" enough to actually > quote japanese photograhers on the subject > but i have read and enjoyed enough > art, philosophy, politics, history, culture, poetry, erotica, > psychology, science, and astrology to know..... maybe one....maybe two > things. > and i know about kids who venture out on high horses. > but alas..... > it seems i hurt your feelings a while back when i (and others) ridiculed > your smarmy little anecdote about being stuck with a smelly person who > won't leave you alone> > poor joe college> > i am glad you like who you are. > i don't.......not now...... > never did really but who knows?....maybe that can change because you > see..... > at least i've got you pissed off enough to come down and talk to us > peons > as you PUNISH me! (?) in front of well.....a handful, to say the least. > at least that would seem to be your mission > should you be willing to accept it>>>>>> > what you don't understand MR. XAQ > is that i would gladly invite everybody on this list to personally meet > me > AND YOU SIR > and to discuss this matter further over chips and dip > beer and a polka. > i'll give you my address but if i recall correctly you already have > that. > remember? > besides....i love a good party > with lively discussions and ALL! > so........>>>>>>>i write reviews sometimes > and share my opinions with others. > i'm not always polite or easy to swallow > but I AM NOT AFRAID to voice myself > and ya know what bro? > there are people who say things like > > > > > ha ha ha ! Clay rocks!!!!!!!!!!<< > > and numerous others who have asked me NOT to leave the list (privately) > because i do ACTUALLY know how to provoke a decent, if not thoughtful, > dialogue amongst the minions...... > even if it means "taking a piss at things" (an english phrase)> > a-a-a-an-and i accept myself as part of that minion, > unlike you who (from the beginning) > have carried your lil boy lord fauntleroy > act precisely far enough to get you where you are today. > in front of ME and GOD and well...a handful of viewers. > > so you didn't like my review? > gosh....i'm crushed like grapes and ready to be drunk! > sorry. > but i still i believe in L O V E > and that is why i share myself with all these good people HERE > every chance i get.....besides myself not having a life, of course. > NEVERTHELESS>>>>there are people who LOVE me xaq> (ya dig?) > i've been beaten upon by nazis in the street for being a commie > and then turned upon and called a nazi by the same commies i was > defendin! > i've fought wars with women whom i've loved and found them later to be > my best friends. > i've walked with the devil and praised the wisdom of god with him.... > and quite alone. > i have laughed and cried at the same time and i will die as i am born > again. > yes...xaq....you might say that i'm...clay is....as my friend syl puts > it....truly a nut-ass! > > you've no idea....really. > but i'm glad you came down to say hi. > it was nice of you. > i won't even take your points one by one. > there really weren't any (except the f*** you was well put!). > oh...as for being 14....god..don't i wish! > better than 22 with a book and a sampler up your arse......there young > skywalker. > young clay reads at near college level (he's 13) and is an A student > so don't worry bout LiTerAzY round here sarge> > i'm glad your folks read you christmas stories LAST year > and so made you a real wonderful XAQ of a human being...... > as opposed to a XAQ of some other crud. > would love to lunch and talk this over further with you > when you are REALLY ready to DEAL WITH CLAY. > and as you said > THIS MUST BE DONE!!!!!!!!!!!! > (cuff em dano) > > good luck son. > godspeed and bless your heart. > > but hey....seriously...no hard feelings. > it's sometimes how we become friends. > > > > clay > evolution2000 > silly > > > At first we cannot see beyond the path that leads downward to dark and > hateful things - but no light or beauty will ever come from the man who > cannot bear this sight. > Light is always born of darkness, and the sun never > yet stood still in heaven to satisfy man's longing or to still his > fears. > > > MODERN MAN IN SEARCH OF A SOUL > ~C. G. Jung > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kelbert" <bergstrom@globalserve.net> Subject: (mobility) Moby Animal Rights Quotes Date: 06 Dec 1998 22:00:57 -0800 I'm confused. Who decided it was Bash Clay Day? Clay rocks. I'd hate to see him go. I'd probably leave soon after he leaves/gets kicked off, for fear of bordem. I'm glad that I haven't been keeping up with my digests (too much skool work) to see how far downhill this list has gone. Soon enough we'll all be country line dancing *shudder*. Can't we all give PEACE a chance. It IS the holiday season, ya know. Why don't we stop all our bickering and then start up again Jan 2? PLEEZE? Anyway, its coming up to dissection time at skool so being the good little veggie gurl that I am, I'm refusing to participate again this year. Which means I'll probably end up writing another essay that has to do with Animal Rights. Last year I wrote about why animal testing isn't needed. This year I'm stuck for ideas. I'm thinking about taking a moby quote and expanding on it, relating it to my own life. Anyone got any fave moby quotes they'd like to share? Hmm? Anyone paying attention, or is everyone too busy ripping each others heads off? -Kelly (who WOULD put her two cents in about horror movies but is afraid about getting yelled at for being offtopic. but they are really neat examinations of humanity's fears. and Hellraiser is one of the best movies EVER. I say we take the horror discussion over to the offtopic list, if it still exists) Music: Indispensible component of life... Recognizes no limes and no confines... Uniting black with white, young with old and the good with the bad. -Robert Miles ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Damian <owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) @@@@@@@ Date: 06 Dec 1998 19:52:15 -0700 Okay, I'm sorry but I've had enough of people attacking each other and being disrespectful of each other. Isn't it possible to disagree without turning a conversation into a flame war? The last digest that came through was not only off topic, more than 90%, but half of it turned out to be complete shit that should have been directed to the individual and not the list. Leaving the list to moderate itself seems to be getting us nowhere. TRY TO BE MATURE AND TAKE IT ELSEWHERE! Damian. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby on Tour Date: 06 Dec 1998 22:19:56 EST does anyone know anything about Moby coming to the U.S to Dj or to play at all....it seems like all the action goes on in Europe..i think over there they have a lot more respect for musicians than here...i don't know...well..hopefully someone will write back without hurting me...love..eli ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HOVEY <bhoveyredfive@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby on Tour Date: 06 Dec 1998 20:18:48 -0800 (PST) Eli First of all I must apologize on behalf of the list for the stupid bickering going on. I dont think that we took into account that other people would be hurt by our harsh words to each other. so im sorry. I believe that moby is coming to the states after April for a US tour. But dont quote me cuz i could be wrong due to 3rd hand info. Peace Bri ---Chilidiba9@aol.com wrote: > > does anyone know anything about Moby coming to the U.S to Dj or to play at > all....it seems like all the action goes on in Europe..i think over there they > have a lot more respect for musicians than here...i don't > know...well..hopefully someone will write back without hurting me...love..eli > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Michael Bourke <cbourke1@bigred.unl.edu> Subject: (mobility) clay solution / Devo cover? Date: 07 Dec 1998 00:15:26 -0600 XAQ: >ok, i'm sorry. i've tried very hard to keep my mouth shut and just let >things go in one ear and out the other, but clay has gove too far. if >this gets me kicked off the list, then fine. i've been here since the >begining of the list and have had some good times, but more often than >not i've had to delete thousands of messages that don't even deal with >techno, much less moby or music of any kind. i'm only postinmg this to >everyone because i think clay deserves to be properly delt with in a >public environment. I have never "attacked" clay on the list. When he [mis]directed his anger toward me regarding the puffy string I responded to him personally, keeping it off the list. But I must agree with Xaq, his behavior is unacceptable(at least to me) from this moment on, I will simply filter him out of my email. I suggest you do the same Xaq. Though his immaturity will probably warrent some REALLY SCATHING response, ooooo. Anyway, on a side note, I was speaking with a guy I work with and he claimed that Moby did a cover of Devo's whip it. Does any one know anything about this? What CD does it appear on if any? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kpicara@juno.com (sarah j mamott) Subject: (mobility) moby (i wish) Date: 07 Dec 1998 01:31:40 EST alright folks, i only get digests, so for all i know this thing could have totally been resolved by now, if so, sorry to dredge it back up. . . >Ps shaq attack or what ever your name is, this is a list to have fun >with which i think that you forget so offten now with this and the >whole puffy thing under your belt i cant wait to see what foul thing >comes out of your moth the next time you open it again. >Sorry......I reread the message again and got angry c'mon bri, angry at what ? angry that xaq, one of the original members of this list, is sick of reading offtopic bullshit, and decided to attack some of it ? i say go for it. . . it's more entertaining than movie reviews. . . if you're gonna put non-moby stuff out there, we can do whatever we want with it. . . that's why some choose not to.. .the beauty of electronic communication,.. you only put out there what you can handle being dissected. .. you throw out statements like "jeez...it was stupid 3o years ago. it's still dumb!" about a film classic and someone's bound to respond. . . (woulda been me had i read it sooner) i dunno, guys,. .. i usually talk about movies with the people i see them with, but hey, that's just me, and im only in digest-mode for a reason (easy scan through of (off)topics).. . and i don't think this has anything to do with age. . . and if you really think so mr. ev2k, then why do you resort to all the same sort of personal attacks you proclaim as one of xaq's weaknesses. . . and that thing about making fun of his name, his quote.. ya know, fuck that, man. . . what if it was "little idiot evil ninja" or "and trees are cool, too" ? dumb, silly, huh. .. sort of on the same level as reaching for the lower-case "o" when you could just as easily type "30". . it's your personalization. .. the one thing that we have no right to dig in on... 'cause then what's next.. . dissecting typos. . ? freudian interplay ? i gotta get some sleep, so my rant's over. . you can all hate me if it would so please you, i just wanted to say that i see and agree with xaq's point(s) 99%. . and i don't think he is or ever was on any mountain nor did he ever claim to be. . . and it doesn't matter anyways, cause hey who's this list about again ? oh yeah, that moby kid. . i think you've all heard of him, right ? or did this list switch topics when we weren't looking ? alright, byebye. . i'm not really a bitch in real life, i just play one in email. . . ,sarah who realizes (and embraces) the irony in her creating yet another offtopic post. .......................................................................................................... "life's too short to make others' shorter..." -propaghandi ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ade <ade@anderson.edu> Date: 07 Dec 1998 01:41:04 -0500 Damn everyone. This is enough. Did you read Damian's post? If not, here it is again. >I'm sorry but I've had enough of people attacking each other and being >disrespectful of each other. Isn't it possible to disagree without >turning a conversation into a flame war? The last digest that came >through was not only off topic, more than 90%, but half of it turned out >to be complete shit that should have been directed to the individual and >not the list. > >Leaving the list to moderate itself seems to be getting us nowhere. > >TRY TO BE MATURE AND TAKE IT ELSEWHERE! If you don't know who he is, he's the moderator of the list. That means he's God. Listen. O.K. He wasn't subtle, but I guess he wasn't blunt enough. So let's all shut up about clay and XAQ and Puffy and all that shit. Just drop it here. We're going nowhere. Can we do that? If someone needs to put in an extra $0.02 do it privately. I love Moby's work. So do you. Let's respect each other. --Ade. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rfu@stitch.com Subject: Re: (mobility) clay solution / Devo cover? Date: 06 Dec 1998 22:53:10 -0800 Christopher Michael Bourke wrote: > > XAQ: > >ok, i'm sorry. i've tried very hard to keep my mouth shut and just let > >things go in one ear and out the other, but clay has gove too far. if > >this gets me kicked off the list, then fine. i've been here since the > >begining of the list and have had some good times, but more often than > >not i've had to delete thousands of messages that don't even deal with > >techno, much less moby or music of any kind. i'm only postinmg this to > >everyone because i think clay deserves to be properly delt with in a > >public environment. > > I have never "attacked" clay on the list. When he [mis]directed his anger > toward me regarding the puffy string I responded to him personally, keeping > it off the list. But I must agree with Xaq, his behavior is unacceptable(at > least to me) from this moment on, I will simply filter him out of my email. > I suggest you do the same Xaq. Though his immaturity will probably warrent > some REALLY SCATHING response, ooooo. > > Anyway, on a side note, I was speaking with a guy I work with and he claimed > that Moby did a cover of Devo's whip it. Does any one know anything about > this? What CD does it appear on if any? Did you ever consider looking at the discography on the moby.org site? Have you even been there, ***please*** these questions are much more tedious than someone's original point of view on something.... It's easy to find and mentioned every week on this list- MOBY.ORG Everything you need to know about his releases is there so stop wasting our time. If you haven't guessed I'm flaming you because clay didn't deserve this bullshit. paul it's simple- you consult the discography first- then ask questions later These personal attacks are obvious and when mixed with no inatiative to look (search engine- 20 seconds "moby discography") I fell the need to be an buttmunch sorry- no hard feelings but stop the personal attacks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: theShackofXaq <zbentz@d.umn.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby on Tour Date: 07 Dec 1998 02:29:22 -0600 (CST) On Sun, 6 Dec 1998 Chilidiba9@aol.com wrote: > does anyone know anything about Moby coming to the U.S to Dj or to play at > all....it seems like all the action goes on in Europe..i think over there they > have a lot more respect for musicians than here...i don't > know...well..hopefully someone will write back without hurting me...love..eli i've been talking to one of the people who works at the label that's distributing his new stuff, and she says she's working on getting a DJ tour set up for him. i didn't get a date, but he will also be making some radio station visits. i said this before, but i think it got lost in the noise... {the high and ever so mighty}[and always mis-quoted] [xaq] "i think a lot, but it never helps me, so i stop. but i really enjoy thinking." Masafumi Sanai-photographer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: theShackofXaq <zbentz@d.umn.edu> Subject: (mobility) Re:Devo cover? Date: 07 Dec 1998 02:35:44 -0600 (CST) On Mon, 7 Dec 1998, Christopher Michael Bourke wrote: > Anyway, on a side note, I was speaking with a guy I work with and he claimed > that Moby did a cover of Devo's whip it. Does any one know anything about > this? What CD does it appear on if any? yes, he did a cover of "whip it" called the "death metal" version. it's really slow with lots of guitars and screaming. pretty funny the first couple of times, but it gets old fast. it pops up in a few places (like was so nicely said, you could check the discography) and is available on a cute 7", along with the origional version of revolver. [i like how moby is now a side note on his own list...] [xaq] "i think a lot, but it never helps me, so i stop. but i really enjoy thinking." Masafumi Sanai-photographer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: theShackofXaq <zbentz@d.umn.edu> Subject: (mobility) oops Date: 07 Dec 1998 02:47:06 -0600 (CST) sorry, but could whoever mentioned "hellraiser" please write back to me? clive barker is one of my top writers and movie makers. [raw-head xaq] "i think a lot, but it never helps me, so i stop. but i really enjoy thinking." Masafumi Sanai-photographer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clay <clayev2k@ixpres.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) oops Date: 07 Dec 1998 07:05:25 +0000 first off ...let me say i'm both glad and sorry that this whole thing happened> i take responsibility for my part. now it's time to move on. the person who brought up hellraiser is part of the wee minds list....and we are up to about a dozen now and our posts range from dan's sexual/romantic yearnings, my own on-going trials and tribulations with everything from the sun and the moon to the way in which toilet-paper is hung....and of course....music that we like. xaq....i dare invite you and the rest of mobility to join us as part of the list and subsequent discussion. just as you, i find we have much to learn from each other and i've always been of the belief that a lot of peace is a good thing after a lot of war. and talking it out......always talking. and we can do it in a way where we don't breach the protocol of non-moby postings. anyway>>>>>>>> what would moby do? all i know is what i can do and seek to do. clay ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dredmond@bsumail.idbsu.edu (Daniel Redmond) Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby Animal Rights Quotes Date: 07 Dec 1998 10:11:52 -0500 When I was in High School, I tried to get out of dissection labs on moral grounds, and my teacher basically said "I don't give a crap about your morals. If you want to pass the class, you will cut this damn frog open!" I thought that was very enlightened for a catholic high school. Anyway, about the topic of said essay, you said you wrote about how animal testing wasn't necessary last year. how bout this year write about how animals are held captive for human "consumption" (Cows for beef and leather, mink for their furs, etc.) just my thought daniel >Anyway, its coming up to dissection time at skool so being the good little >veggie gurl that I am, I'm refusing to participate again this year. Which >means I'll probably end up writing another essay that has to do with Animal >Rights. Last year I wrote about why animal testing isn't needed. This >year I'm stuck for ideas. I'm thinking about taking a moby quote and >expanding on it, relating it to my own life. Anyone got any fave moby >quotes they'd like to share? Hmm? Anyone paying attention, or is everyone >too busy ripping each others heads off? > >-Kelly >(who WOULD put her two cents in about horror movies but is afraid about >getting yelled at for being offtopic. but they are really neat >examinations of humanity's fears. and Hellraiser is one of the best movies >EVER. I say we take the horror discussion over to the offtopic list, if it >still exists) > >Music: Indispensible component of life... Recognizes no limes and >no confines... Uniting black with white, young with old and the good >with the bad. -Robert Miles > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Giles <Steve.Giles@digital.com> Subject: (mobility) Good morning to.. (wait, which list is this?) Date: 07 Dec 1998 12:30:45 -0500 Good morning all, how are we today? (smiles and waves all around, I hope) Kelly, here's a possibility for you. Perhaps you could write about how msuic/musicians have affected your life? Did Moby get you thinking on certain issues or did those issues lead you to Moby? Maybe you can write about how musicians/celebrities can change the world. (Moby with Animal Rights/Veganism, U2 promoting the peace process in Ireland, ten million stars trying to free Tibet, etc.) Wait, this is science class. Hmmm. Last year you did one on animal testing. How about animal consumption and starving people? You could use Moby's facts on meat and grain production, relate them to each other, and propose a solution for the hunger problem. (one that works logistically, realistically would be a book-length in-depth essay thingamawhatyacallit.) Anyhow, good luck. Chris Bourke wrote: >>>>> What I meant with my generalization was the radio/mainstream/MTV hip-hop crap certainly, from your message you would agree to this. I think it's justified. And as for my not knowing what it is, then please explain to me what "hip-hop" actually is. <<<<< Although hip-hop has already been explained well by clay, I said you didn't know what it is because you said it all sucks, when you actually meant that the commercialized product of it sucks. I was responding to your words, not your meaning. Your meaning was absent from your words. Many people around here should take care to reread before they push send, and make sure that the typed words convey the intended message. And that the message is thoughtful and appropriate for the list. These personal attacks on people wear thin, and a lot of it's about 'winning the argument', not 'communicating, sharing, discussing'. This next sentence should not be necessary: This paragraph is not an insult. It is view. Disagree if you do with the viewpoint, but don't explain what's wrong with Steve to back it up. That turns this list into a shitswamp. There is no place for viciousness like that on the list, Xaq. Clay was commenting on how the shallowness in entertainment rubs off on impressionable youths, and the like. (out of place) You came back with extremely unkind grammar critique and art theory and theology. (very out of place) Why? Stop the pollution. I know we're moving on now. I usually restrain myself from participation in this kind of thing, but I had to purge. Besides, I had nothing else to respond to. Back to my lone struggle to keep alive the conversations that got drowned out.... Are you an active music buyer? Do you check the 'M' section each time you go to the music store? Do you wait for gift season to get more music? I've been buying about $40 a week in music, pretty excessive, but I'm lucky and I can, so I do, for now. This week I bought Joy Division, Green Day, Soul Asylum, Moby, U2, & Faithless. Next week: Talking Heads. I found Instinct Dance! It has what appears to be a slightly longer version of Go, by fifteen seconds. This CD is very simalar to Early Underground, with many of the same edits. The Voodoo Child Remix is correctly listed on here too, although this same track on EU isn't. It's missing the 'remix' denotation. The actual original Voodoo Child (not the EU/Instinct Dance or Poor in NY off Rare) has elements of Slight Return in it. One VC mix (also not on CD) practically does all of Slight Return inside it! It's awesome! The original doesn't, though it just has *elements of slight return, the sound without the song. Instinct Dance also has Drop A Beat and Have You Seen My Baby, which EU doesn't. I'm eagerly awaiting the arrival of this CD to hear the latter. As far as I know the only other Have You Seen out there is the Baby mix on Rare. Who can tell me if these are the same? Different? BTW, Early Undeground has five tracks that Instinct Doesn't. They are: UHF3, Protect Write, Time Signature, Peace Head, Barracuda, & M-Four. If you could play 2 Moby songs to your school/company/extended family, which would they be, and why? I would choose Feeling So Real and God Moving Over The Face Of The Waters. Feeling So Real because of it's infectuous joy. My sister listens to country music mostly, and I got her hooked with this song! I gave her my EIW tape since I have the CD now. She plays it in her car all the time. God Moving I would choose because it would be easier for midrange adults and up to appreciate. If I played Next Is The E they'd all cover their ears. God Moving is nice and mellow, easy to swallow, but it still retains Moby's artistic greatness. This is one of few Moby songs that could go over on 'lite' radio. Of course vocals would be necessary, which would ruin it... but oh well. You got the idea. Have field day with this topic, PLEASE. :) -Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clay <clayev2k@ixpres.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Good morning to.. (wait, which list is this?) Date: 07 Dec 1998 10:38:32 +0000 i would play >>>>>>>everytime you touch me and >>>>>>>feeling so real. clay ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jake M." <rockmanrock@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) puffy no-no Date: 07 Dec 1998 11:50:41 PST I was reading these messages about hip-hop and electronica and such, and I had to post something and give my 7 cents worth... As for the origin of hip-hop and such...those roots run as deep as spoken language, from the tribes in Africa, to the folk songs of the 60's (thats 1860's) to the Gospel and Civil Rights marches of the 1960's....blues, jazz, gospel, all are the roots of hip-hop. These where also the roots of what we call Rock and Roll. I think hip-hop is still a very strong cultural force, as was the soul music of the sixties and seventies (Aretha Franklin, Sly and The Family Stone, Curtis Mayfield, Marvin Gaye (aka THE MAN) ).... As for "electronica"...well it along with all other modern music has its roots from the stuff mentioned above...but The founders as someone put it where groups like the KLF (aka the great ones), Liam Howlett, Alex Patterson, and then the classic 80's synth bands also had a lot to do with it like Erasure (aka the other great ones), Depeche Mode, New Order, the Police etc...I am not a big "electronica" listner, but I love my music, and want the originating groups to get some credit (of course i did not mention them all, and that is just a small list to say the least). I would really like to see Moby collaberate with some of hip-hops finest...I think he would work great with acts like Dj Premier, Chuck D, Kurrupt, Digital Undergound, RZA just to mention a few...I think he could help make aware, those who *hate* hip-hop.... As for a moby note...I listened to the Joy Division tribute... (yeah the one with NEw Dawn Fades (moby version) ). It is really good. I also saw a used EIW here in my very small college town...nice to see. BTW any word a possible release date for the new album (if he gets another record company)? Now Playing: The Manic Street Preachers (aka the other great ones too) "This is my truth tell me yours UK" Jake "The unexamined life is not worth living"-Plato -- http://www.angelfire.com/co/rockman/index.html -- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jake M." <rockmanrock@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) puffy no-no Date: 07 Dec 1998 11:54:36 PST AS I looked over the message I just sent...I forgot to mention Moby as one of the founders of "electronica"...well he is, and I think we all know that...I just took it as a given. NP: DMX "It's Dark and Hell is Hot" (more hip-hop) Jake "The unexamined life is not worth living"-Plato -- http://www.angelfire.com/co/rockman/index.html -- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Colorez <colorez@execpc.com> Subject: (mobility) Come On Baby... Date: 07 Dec 1998 16:11:32 -0800 hey, at amazon.com they have the "Cum On Baby" cd single for $8 bucks. I think that this is the U.S. version. Will one of you guys tell me what the track listing is please(hopefully there aren't twenty different cum on baby singles). Do you think that "Love hole" is on it? I'm in love with that song. thanks. bye. oh btw, amazon has the 2cd import of animal rights for 32 bucks(but that's a bit overpriced I guess). -Anthony ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Giles <Steve.Giles@digital.com> Subject: RE: (mobility) Come On Baby... Date: 07 Dec 1998 16:38:38 -0500 >>Anthony wrote>> >>"Cum On Baby" That's offensive. Pardon me. I'm a teenager. >>I think that this is the U.S. version. Sure is! Love Hole is only on the 2CD limited version. The limited version has Love Hole, Hymn (live), and an additional Eskimos & Egypt mix. The US single has Come On Baby, the Crystal Method Mix, an Eskimos & Egypt mix, Whip It (deathmetal), Go (live), and ATINITBL (live). >>2cd import of animal rights for 32 bucks That's rough. Shop elsewhere. I recommend the following independent stores. They have different selections than the majors do. You'll find 7", 12", promo CDs, and all sorts of out-of-print material in these dark little corners of the music retail universe. http://www2.vinylvendors.com/VinylVendors/ Based in Cali, nice promos and the like. Get the ETYTM promo while they still have it! Try Moby in the top 3 search lines. http://www.vvinyl.com/ Two letter v's, not w. East coast US store, good selection. http://www.personal.u-net.com/~crac/ UK, some old 12"s, check all sections, Moby's spread out. http://www.vinaledge.com/ A little bit of Moby. Cool store, great people, fast turnaround. http://www.action-records.co.uk/ My favorite UK record store. Many cool Moby items here. UK PAL video promos, t-shirts, great music selection, etc. http://www.slcd.com/ US store, great for promos, but they're low on Moby stuff right now. The ETYTM promo CD w/ 3 mixes is here, too. They have a BBMH promo that has three tracks on the US commercial release, nothing special. Several one track radio promos. Check out the selections available for your favorite band. It'll make your head spin a bit. Thanks for the link, delobbo. http://www.ebay.com The online auction I keep blathering about. If you haven't checked it out, you should. Lots of extreme coolness here. A good way to find cool online music stores is to search on different engines for combos like 'dance vinyl' 'techno records' , etc. Mix and match for different results. Investigate. So much stuff I never knew existed. Worth your while. mobility, where a kid can be a kid -Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby on Tour Date: 07 Dec 1998 16:30:27 EST my comment was more sarcastic cuz i honestly don't care what negative people have to say about me...well...thanx for the info...Here's a question for everyone: What was it like when you first saw Moby perform? ( my apologies to those that haven't seen him yet) elie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Giles <Steve.Giles@digital.com> Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby on Tour Date: 07 Dec 1998 17:01:10 -0500 >>What was it like when you first saw Moby perform? I saw him at House Of Blues in Chicago on Dec 1st, 1997. Good show. I got a big rush out of seeing him live and watching him explode with energy onstage. I've posted about this before, it's in the archives, probably April. I was a bit down on the live vs. DAT thing then, but I've stopped considering 'musical integrity' as an important ingredient in a live performance. I just enjoy what is presented. I'm not saying Moby lacks live integrity, (he works hard up there) but I do think he could liven things up a bit by adding more live elements to his stage performance. He does play guitar, and Pablo does some cool drum solos, but Moby's show is limited by prerecorded stuff. I enjoy watching him scream and jump, but I'd like to see him do more to his 'dance' songs. Usually he bangs his drumpad. I'd like to see him take a break from flying across the stage to punch some sequences into a keyboard or something. By the time I saw him in May, I think it was, at the University Of Chicago, I wasn't considering any of this. It was an adventure, taking trains, walking in a college neighborhood, posing as a student, etc. I suppose I don't get out enough. Anyways, the weather was pristine, the show was outdoors, the setting was cozy and the shrubbery was in full bloom. The crowd was young and energetic, and I was hyped! I had a great time. Moby didn't have any walls, so he had to expend energy creatively. He was jumping, flinging himself off of the speakers, and of course, screaming LOVE! Let's not forget the token "Thank you. My name's Moby." The setlists were close, I know he opened with Ah-Ah for both shows. He did more guitar this time, too. Free Moby tank top w/ t-shirt purchase, can't beat that. I had to leave half-way through seeing Busta Rhymes or I'd have been stranded, which was unfortunate. He was goofy and very entertaining from the parts of his set I saw. I completely missed Sonic Youth since I took a later train there than planned. I'd really like to see Moby's DJ set. Anybody with stories? Enough loudmouthing from me for one day. :) -Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson <techno_gpig@yahoo.com> Subject: (mobility) ON TOPIC MESSAGE!!!!! WOO HOO!!!!! Date: 07 Dec 1998 16:25:45 -0800 (PST) seriously, last digest, there was like one mention of the word "moby" once. come on, if ya dont got a moby post, dont say nuthin!!!! okay, what moby would i introduce at a party to myfamily. well, i did request JBT at my sisters bat mitzvah (like i said...it was the only moby they had, and the dj said moby's been requested by name before.) but all my grandparents and people that heard it probly didnt recagnize it. anyway also as i said, i played ilts for my mom, and her response was fairly positive. her opinion on techno tho, is prodigy is way too loud and obnoxious (at least the nu stuff..i havent played the older stuff 4 her but she probly wouldnt like it anyway.) and orbital is nice but a little quiet (at least in sides is) and chemical bros is just right. (at list dig yr own hole is.) eeeek! non-moby! anyway, i also said that if i could be a dj and introduce everyone to one moby song, it would be slight return. well, yes that, but im thinking about honey too. especially if there were black people listening. especially the kidz who listen to most modern rnb (not exactly puffy, but like, monica and brandy and stuff.) but i think their parents would appreciate it more. or maybe people who lissten to funk music, whatever. i dont know, i just wonder what they would think. but i would probably play a bunch of oby. hell, i could play moby for an hour straight and if i didnt say anything, everyone would assume i was mixing it up playin different bands. then id say it was all moby at the end and theyd be like, "whoah!" hm.....what do i have to say about moby? oh yes....who started this moby and jewel thing? is this something someone started here on the list, or is it somethinng someone read somewhere, or talked to the man himself about? clay, dont go!!!!!!! just got the new squirrel nut zippers from the library. awesome. i love "the kraken" and "low down man" and "suits are picing up the bill" and a few more. i think they rule because theyre not your typical "swing band". i mean, those songs i mentioned (the first 2 anyway) dont sound shit like brian setzer, thats rockabilly. and the cherry poppin daddys are a ska band that jumped on the wagon. but some of theuir stuff is ok. but on the zippers cd, track 3 is a polka song! wouldnt moby and the zips make a good team? he could do that polka song some of us had always wanted him to do! tho i still agree a ska version of ETYTM would be cool. but not a bosstones/reel big fish type ska song, like a hepcat type song. older ska kicks ass, the newer stuff (mostly) sux. okay, like i ssaid before, we should compile a list of questions to ask the man if anyone of us interviews him. my question is... "What is up with the "honey" video? Why are you driving a car?????" okay? someone want to write that one down? bye now.....joe biscuit, over and out...... np:crustacean, "purple" (I LOOOOOOVE THIS SONG! anyone know anything about it? who is it? is it out in america?) == "i see ten thousand chariots, and they comin', comin' without horses"-Bob Marley, "Midnight Ravers" >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michaela Gerstner <plovious@geocities.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) ON TOPIC MESSAGE!!!!! WOO HOO!!!!! Date: 07 Dec 1998 22:02:15 -0700 hey paul, whatever happened to your pointless trivia questions? we need something to liven this list up a bit!!!! come on ppl! i know this is the calm after a storm (or numerous storms), but i know you guys are out there! hmm.. i can't think of any Q's to ask, so i won't. oh, i finally bought the FSR single (4.99) and i LOVE it!!! i really like FSR Moby's Dub the best of the whole CD. i'm not disappointed with it at all... hee hee! anyways, i'm suppose to be doing homework right now, so i guess i'll quit delaying and finish it. plovious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Skipworth <rskipwo@comp.uark.edu> Subject: (mobility) so sorry.. but VERY not on topic Date: 07 Dec 1998 23:34:16 -0600 Hi everyone.... i remember a while back when everyone was talking about having a list member party, a bunch of you said you were from the chicago area. Out TINY town is having a small rave and they're bringing in a dj named Dan Efex who is from chicago. I wonder if any of you can tell me anything about him (i.e. what he spins) any help is appreciated! thanks ----rob ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AJ Brustein <miyagi@tke.att.ne.jp> Subject: (mobility) About Mobility Date: 08 Dec 1998 04:42:46 -0500 Hi. I don't remeber who asked the question or who responded to it, but it was a day or 2 ago. Someone asked about a Devo cover done by Moby and then someone else lashed out against them for being such a moron as to not check the moby.org site. I don't know who this was, maybe Paul someone maybe not, but it was pretty harsh. Now, what I want to know is why the hell was that neccisary? All this clay and Xaq that was going on was fine with me, pretty funny actually, but that post against a simple question was simply out of line. At least someone was talking about Moby, which seems to be farthest from what the rest of the list was talking about. Everyone knows about Moby.org. Personally, I haven't been there for a few months, but the last time I went, the discodgraphy was a mess. Maybe it is better now, but I would rather ask this list then look through that list. Maybe it would provaoke a conversation, some thing this list desperatly needs. Besides, it wasn't a question like how many tracks are on EIW, because that question is pointless and should be found in the discrography. I didn't know that Moby did I Devo mix and even though I really don't care much for Devo, maybe someone will ask a question one day that I will not have know and be very interested in. But maybe they won't because they are afraid of getting yelled at by someone with a pissy attitude. You want to get mad? Get mad about people talking about Psycho (I should be very mad since no new movies come out in Japan until at least 5 months later than America), but don't start scaring people to talk about Moby on the Mobility list. Thanks. Later. AJ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Mixmag..important question.. Date: 08 Dec 1998 13:16:55 EST i go to cdnow and i see another mixmag, volume 7 that has Moby and Slam in it..what is this..does anyone know about this..i went to check the other mixmag with Moby and Sven Vath but that was volume 2..is this a new one....love...elie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Damian <damian@xmission.com> Date: 08 Dec 1998 19:13:11 -0700 >From: Chilidiba9@aol.com >i go to cdnow and i see another mixmag, volume 7 that has Moby and Slam in >it..what is this..does anyone know about this..i went to check the other >mixmag with Moby and Sven Vath but that was volume 2..is this a new one? Nope, it's the same Moby set as from MM2, but all on one track this time instead of indexed song-by-song. BSC *** This message was caught in a filter and therefor delayed. *** Mobility members must send email with their subscribed *** email address only. Any unrecognized address is bounced. *** Questions? Contact owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com > Re: BOUNCE mobility@lists.xmission.com: > Non-member submission from ["Brad Caviness" <bigwigenterprise@hotmail.com>] > Majordomo results: who > Member of list 'mobility' found: bigwig@arkansas.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Freak <dtlogue@mailbox.syr.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) Mixmag..important question.. Date: 08 Dec 1998 23:35:43 -0500 (EST) Hi all, hope everyone is having a pleasant evening. someone had asked about influencing others with Moby's music. My roommate loves his ambient music...and also thinks come on baby sounds like a miami vice theme (think I might've written that before). I love his faster dancey tracks myself so, I think FSR, and GMOTFOTW is another great one to introduce...... I went to a fraternity party once, no really...the theme was a rave. Ok, now I know your laughing...anyway, they were supposed to have hired a d.j. from NYC to come and spin...and being that I go to school in Syracuse, it snowed and he wasn't able to make it in here cuz the highway was closed or some shnit like that. So, being that I ALWAYS seem to carry some CD's on me, threw in Bring Back my Happiness and the place started to jump. Didn't leave the house til the wee hours of the morning, dancing non-stop. I had a ton of people ask me about Moby since then, and made some good friends that night, one in particular I keep in touch with on a daily basis. So I'm touching the Greek community, one Moby song at a time. The first and sadly, only time I've seen moby perform was here at Syracuse, last year, April. I joined the list the next day I think, dying to know more than I did. He opened with Ah-Ah as well and was WONDERFUL!! I felt like the only person there. I felt dizzy I was so excited to FINALLY see him live. I've never had a musician do that to me. I got to meet him after the show, and to my surprise no one had come up to him, but myself and 2 other people. I don't have to describe the experience I'm sure you all know or could guess. Was anyone on the list at this show? nitey nite, danielle ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Giles <Steve.Giles@digital.com> Subject: (mobility) Moby vinyl for sale Date: 09 Dec 1998 17:07:59 -0500 Lindsey, I'm not interested in either of those. I am forwarding this message to the Moby mailing list to help you get those sold faster. Mobility, this should be self-explanatory. -Steve E-mail: linzcote@earthlink.net You're right. I am sorry. I jumped the gun. Do you need any other vinyls? I have Bring Back my Happiness and the Animal Rights import. $5. each or $9. for both. I am desperate to get a good home for them. I am moving and need to get rid of some things. Plus the fact that my turntable is shot and I don't spin for fun... only listen. Get back to me. Lindsey :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HOVEY <bhoveyredfive@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby on Tour Date: 09 Dec 1998 14:47:22 -0800 (PST) When i first saw moby it was outside and the show was great but then it just got better, it started to rain and it became the most incrediable thing that has ever happened to me. Honestly it was like having sex with music. (sorry for the mental pic!) Peace Bri ---Chilidiba9@aol.com wrote: > > my comment was more sarcastic cuz i honestly don't care what negative people > have to say about me...well...thanx for the info...Here's a question for > everyone: > > What was it like when you first saw Moby perform? ( my apologies to those > that haven't seen him yet) > > elie > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kelbert" <bergstrom@globalserve.net> Subject: (mobility) new order and other stuff Date: 09 Dec 1998 20:29:45 -0800 Hey peeps. I know I've been quiet lately. Anyone else feel like doing my homework for me? Anyway, I'd just like to say that my brother is now an official Moby fan. *evil grin* its fun warping younger siblings. He's almost completely over his death metal phase, and he's finally starting to appreciate punk. I think I'm going to have to slip Animal Rights into the CD player the next time we're driving around town... Oh yeah. Has anyone else experienced this? My mom has gone completely nuts over TWIRFMR... She liked it the first day I bought AR, but lately if I've been listening to it in my room while typing up stuff for skool (two computers. gotta luv it. hehehe) she'll come into my room and start singing along with the song. Granted, she normally gets the lyrics messed up and sings something along the lines of "that's when i go get my gun", but still, the fact is that she's singing. a moby song. well, a moby cover... but still. she's SINGING AND DANCING TO A SONG THAT I LIKE! AGGGHHHHHH!!! I'm afraid. Next topic. Does anyone else think it would be a kickass idea for moby to do a New Order cover? I'm thinking, Blue Monday (okay I know its my fave new order song... gimme a break!!) *shrugs* I think it would be cool. New Order is one of my faves. Moby is one of my faves. Why not put them together and see what happens? If anything, he can make up for the Orgy cover of blue monday... thats umm... interesting... Hey, while I'm at it, I think Moby should do Boys Don't Cry by the cure... man that would be such a trip... Okay I'll stop. 80's music is cool. I'm so looking forward to the billy idol tour. My friends and I are going to be right up there in the front because billy rawks! hehe nevermind... -Kelly (who would play everything is wrong, its short; to the point; and beautiful and say its all mine because its her fave song right now to a crowd of non moby fans) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dredmond@bsumail.idbsu.edu (Daniel Redmond) Subject: Re: (mobility) new order and other stuff Date: 09 Dec 1998 19:04:34 -0500 >I know I've been quiet lately. Anyone else feel like doing my homework for >me? lemee guess, finals week fast approaching? At least that's what it is here... >Oh yeah. Has anyone else experienced this? My mom has gone completely >nuts >over TWIRFMR... she's SINGING AND DANCING TO A SONG THAT I LIKE! >AGGGHHHHHH!!! I'm afraid. that is frightening, but at least she has good taste... >Next topic. Does anyone else think it would be a kickass idea for moby to >do a New Order cover? I'm thinking, Blue Monday (okay I know its my fave new order >song... gimme a break!!) *shrugs* I think it would be cool. New Order is one of my >faves. Moby is one of my faves. Why not put them together and see what happens? >If anything, he can make up for the Orgy cover of blue monday... thats umm... >interesting... Well, he has done NDF by Joy Division...Perhaps a New Order song is the perfect next step...I'd say 1963, tho...more potential to it... >Hey, while I'm at it, I think Moby should do Boys Don't Cry by the cure... man that >would be such a trip... Whoa...... daniel who really should be studying for finals instead of checking his email 8-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Michael Bourke <cbourke1@bigred.unl.edu> Subject: (mobility) Misc... Date: 09 Dec 1998 22:22:58 -0600 >>I know I've been quiet lately. Anyone else feel like doing my homework for >>me? nope Anyway, I've got a laundry list of Moby stuff. First, I want to compliment "Tone Matrix". I d/loaded his MP3 version of Myopia (Tone Matrix) and I love it! Good going, especially on the Spaceballs sample(s), infact I'm listening to it right now, unfortunately my head phones suck, the right ear is out, but I did listen to it on my large speakers and it kicks ass, love it. Anyway, I have a suggestion for the [defunked?] thanks and thanks II releases: why not make all tracks available in mp3 format. I have a CD burner, or at least access to one, so if I want them on CD I can always transfer the tracks, but I don't necessarily want to wait so long. Is this possible for anyone who has a copy of Thanks I and for the artists of Thanks II? Finally, I saw a friend in the hall today of one of our buildings ( I go to the University of Nebraska at Lincoln) and the guy that he was with happend to identify me as Chris "Moby" Bourke. Apparently being a Moby fan is unique enough to be characterized in such a manner?!?! Anyway, he claimed that he has been playing Moby, in limited quantities on our school Radio. Though I have never listened to our school radio, and in fact haven't listen to the radio period in over two years(just CDs in my car), I wouldn't have known this. So for anyone in the Lincoln, NE area, I think the Frequency is 92.3, KRNU. Don't know the quality or quantity, but I thought I would share this antecdote with you all. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew J. Davies" <daviesa@uwplatt.edu> Subject: RE: (mobility) Misc... Date: 09 Dec 1998 22:47:14 -0600 > Anyway, I have a suggestion for the [defunked?] thanks and thanks II > releases: These 2 CDs are not defunct as you so claim. Although I do not know the exact specifics concerning the Thanks2 progress (Greg? update us please!?) The main reason no progress has been made on the re-release for Thanks1 is that I have yet to send Greg the needed materials. (over break, I promise) > why not make all tracks available in mp3 format. because the CDs ARE coming out. eventually. patience is a virtue...especially with these projects... Does anyone have any ideas of what tracks will be on Moby's upcoming album? Maybe that one track he always plays in his live show, but has never released? (the name escapes me..."I Need You"???) Please don't tell me "Honey", because, well, duh! andy gingerbread man ************************** Without time, everything would happen all at once... ************************** ************************* Andrew J. Davies daviesa@uwplatt.edu Platteville, WI 53818 (608.342.2255) n64racer@ignmail.com Horicon, WI 53032 (920.386.2596) ************************* I have a CD > burner, or at least access to one, so if I want them on CD I can always > transfer the tracks, but I don't necessarily want to wait so long. Is this > possible for anyone who has a copy of Thanks I and for the artists of Thanks > II? > > Finally, I saw a friend in the hall today of one of our buildings ( I go to > the University of Nebraska at Lincoln) and the guy that he was with happend > to identify me as Chris "Moby" Bourke. Apparently being a Moby fan is > unique enough to be characterized in such a manner?!?! Anyway, he claimed > that he has been playing Moby, in limited quantities on our school Radio. > Though I have never listened to our school radio, and in fact haven't listen > to the radio period in over two years(just CDs in my car), I wouldn't have > known this. So for anyone in the Lincoln, NE area, I think the Frequency is > 92.3, KRNU. > > Don't know the quality or quantity, but I thought I would share this > antecdote with you all. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric M. Goldberg" <gold@netrox.net> Subject: RE: (mobility) Misc... Date: 10 Dec 1998 00:39:14 -0500 > exact specifics concerning the Thanks2 progress (Greg? update us please!?) > The main reason no progress has been made on the re-release for Thanks1 is > that I have yet to send Greg the needed materials. (over break, I promise) When i uploaded my two mp3s, Greg emailed me saying that he has 2 other tracks other than mine, and that things are moving, but slowly.. Basically its just everyone is very busy.. But hopefully we'll get everything done eventually. > Does anyone have any ideas of what tracks will be on Moby's upcoming album? > Maybe that one track he always plays in his live show, but has never > released? (the name escapes me..."I Need You"???) Please don't tell me > "Honey", because, well, duh! Not too sure, but i think "I Need You" is something Moby likes to save for his concerts.. Even tho it is a kick ass track. Eric gold@netrox.net bored? http://www.netrox.net/~gold/tm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Damian <damian@xmission.com> Date: 10 Dec 1998 03:07:15 -0700 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------9B32991BD708E2051C8BEA94 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Approved: fatboy Well gang, here's some holiday cheer from our old friend at CNotes. He's not currently subscribed to the mailing list but he's tried helping me out in the past and the list on a promotion. When I first read the attached email I didn't notice the part where it mentions "all first-time buyers" receive $10 off their order. So not noticing the "first-time buyer" thing, I tried it... I clicked on the link in the email. It brought me to Music Boulevard where at the top of the page I noticed a little icon saying something about getting $10 off. I clicked on that. I soon found out that it was an offer for first time buyers only. Remembering the email I decided to continue and try shopping for a CD anyway. When it came time to check out... on the 2nd confirmation screen... the $10 discount showed up! I made the purchase and the receipt reflected the discount even though I shop there on occasion and already have an established account. Yippee! Figuring that the link worked, I returned to the email that Greg sent so I could forward it to the list. It was then that I FINALLY noticed that the offer was for first time buyers all along. I'm assuming that by clicking both links the offer was given. Use it as you like. =) Cheers! --------------9B32991BD708E2051C8BEA94 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Envelope-to: mobility-owner@xmission.com Received: from [207.217.120.79] (helo=cuckoo.prod.itd.earthlink.net) by mail.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 0znuFz-00079Z-00 for mobility-owner@xmission.com; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 17:47:03 -0700 Received: from [153.35.217.48] (1Cust48.tnt2.brentwood.ny.da.uu.net [153.35.217.48]) by cuckoo.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01434 for <mobility-owner@xmission.com>; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 15:54:56 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: cnotes@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: <v0311072eb294b233118d@[153.35.217.48]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Greetings!! I hope all is well at the Moby [Mobility] mailing list! I am= writing to pass on a great holdiay gift for your readers! For a limited= time, all first-time buyers at Music Boulevard that visit the site via the= URL below will receive $10 off their order or a FREE CD!! http://ads06.focalink.com/SmartBanner/page/15006.1 I am sure your list members would love to take advantage of this offer.= Please announce it to the Moby [Mobility] mailing list and feel free to= take advantage of it yourself. Have a great holiday season! Greg Smith --------------9B32991BD708E2051C8BEA94-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greg Shipley <gshipley@wiretrip.net> Subject: More THANKS Info WAS: RE: (mobility) Misc... Date: 10 Dec 1998 05:12:28 -0600 (CST) On Wed, 9 Dec 1998, Andrew J. Davies wrote: > > Anyway, I have a suggestion for the [defunked?] thanks and thanks II > > releases: > > These 2 CDs are not defunct as you so claim. Although I do not know the > exact specifics concerning the Thanks2 progress (Greg? update us please!?) Ergh - I don't understand - THIS IS NOT DEFUNCT. Why does everyone keep thinking it's dead? Did I miss some post somewhere? > The main reason no progress has been made on the re-release for Thanks1 is > that I have yet to send Greg the needed materials. (over break, I promise) Cool. > > why not make all tracks available in mp3 format. > > because the CDs ARE coming out. eventually. patience is a > virtue...especially with these projects... Okay, listen, as of RIGHT NOW I have a whopping total of 4 tracks, donated by two people (Andrew and Eric). Although the web site isn't up (I know, I know) the FTP site is, and has been, for a while now. Did I botch something somewhere? So, to clear everything up: 1. "Thanks I" *WILL* be re-released, but I need to recieve it first. 2. "Thanks II" *WILL* be done, but we need tracks to put on it. So, does anyone see a problme with making the cut-off date for II January 15th? That's well over a month from now - will that work? -Greg ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: phathead@flash.net Subject: (mobility) Thanks 2 Date: 10 Dec 1998 10:25:20 -0600 I have 4 or 5 remixes I'd like to submit for Thanks 2. I can only submit these on audio cassette however. Is this going to be a problem? If not, where do I send them to? The tracks I've done are as follows: -Next Is The E (Next Is The Speed) -Drug Fits The Face (SDi's Abstinence) -Bad Days (Telepathy Teknotika) -Say It's All Mine (SDi's Ozone Mix) -Everything (Progressive Mix) Thank you RT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "G. Walker" <violetta@marwalk.com> Subject: (mobility) moms & moby Date: 10 Dec 1998 14:16:32 -0800 My mom liked Revolver when it first came onto the radio; she borrowed my Animal Rights, blasted it around the house one afternoon when i was out. When i got home she said "This is boring! He only sings on a few songs!" She is not a fan of Moby's ambient stuff... -ginger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greg Shipley <gshipley@wiretrip.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) Thanks 2 Date: 10 Dec 1998 14:18:54 -0600 (CST) On Thu, 10 Dec 1998 phathead@flash.net wrote: > I have 4 or 5 remixes I'd like to submit for Thanks 2. > I can only submit these on audio cassette however. > Is this going to be a problem? > If not, where do I send them to? Ergh. We'd love to have your mixes, but audio tape is going to KILL us. Is there ANY chance you can stick these on a burned CD, or ANY electronic format? By the time we go from original -> tape -> re-sampled -> CD it is going to sound like complete ass. Is there anything I can do to help? (we'd love to have them) -G ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Skipworth <rskipwo@comp.uark.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) moms & moby Date: 10 Dec 1998 13:20:04 -0600 My mom loves End Of Everything. She's asked to borrow it a few times, and I believe I'm going to get if for her for christmas. She also likes a little bit of Aphex Twin and some DJ Shadow. --rob G. Walker wrote: > My mom liked Revolver when it first came onto the radio; she borrowed my > Animal Rights, blasted it around the house one afternoon when i was out. > When i got home she said "This is boring! He only sings on a few songs!" > She is not a fan of Moby's ambient stuff... > -ginger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson <techno_gpig@yahoo.com> Subject: (mobility) izittrue? Date: 10 Dec 1998 11:49:55 -0800 (PST) is this correct? i went to ubl's store and it said it had ar/li for 12.97. ???????? i mean i already have it, but is this a misprint? if not, someone get their ass there now! btw, ubl's store looks suspisiosly like amazon music.....speaking of amazon, my moms books are there....look for martha seif simpson, if you have some time to waste.... i meant to say a whole bunch a shit yesterday, but yahoo email fucked up. dammit!!!! on amp last week, the first klip they played was the new plastikman vid, skizophrenik. maybe theyll make it a habit of the first video being the latest from a bald guy named richard. so you want polls, eh? yes, i think this list is DESPARATELY in need of some polls. well, soon itll be time for like "1998 year in music awards" and such. but ill hold mine off till later...after chanukah, when i get some new cds... moby related.......um, uh, okay, if you could ask moby one question, what would it be? mine would be about the honey video, "what is that video about, and why are you driving a car?" two part questions count. and possibly someone (probably me) will compile them and store them for the next time someone interviews thu man. 'k? 'k. if moby had a name, what would would it be and would you call it to his face, if you would face with him and all his glory, WHAT WOULD YOU ASK IF YOU HAD JUST ONE QUESTION??????? hee hee. couldnt resist. bye. what if moby was one of us? >>>>>>><<<<<<<<SILLY == "i see ten thousand chariots, and they comin', comin' without horses"-Bob Marley, "Midnight Ravers" >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Geoffrey Sproule" <gsproule@x-stream.co.uk> Subject: (mobility) [mobility] thanks 1&2 cost and where available Date: 10 Dec 1998 22:29:19 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0103_01BE248C.874ACC00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I tried to go the ftp site but the link was not working I cant weight to hear thanks 1 and thanks 2 where will they be available from? how much will they cost? gsproule@x-stream.co.uk ------=_NextPart_000_0103_01BE248C.874ACC00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 5.00.0518.7"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I tried to go the ftp site but the = link was not=20 working</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I cant weight to hear thanks 1 and = thanks=20 2</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>where will they be available = from?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>how much will they = cost?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2><A=20 href=3D"mailto:gsproule@x-stream.co.uk">gsproule@x-stream.co.uk</A></FONT= ></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> </BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0103_01BE248C.874ACC00-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kelbert" <bergstrom@globalserve.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) izittrue? Date: 10 Dec 1998 20:37:56 -0800 >on amp last week, the first klip they played was the new plastikman >vid, skizophrenik. maybe theyll make it a habit of the first video >being the latest from a bald guy named richard. BLAH!!! I'd like to complain how R U Receiving? was a re-run last friday. Urrggg... No Honey!!! I WANT TO SEE HONEY!!! *sigh* At least they played JBT. Gotta luv Moby's face as he's running... hehe They also played One of the People by Adamski's Thing... cool video... Anyway, I'm still obsessing over plastikman... i need to track down richie's email addy again so i can bug him about saying a few things about the canadian musik scene for my friend's zine. i'd ask moby but well... he's not canadian :( oh! almost forgot. much music is playing the europe music awards tonight- faithless and rammstein are the two acts i'll be watching for. looks to be an interested night. but then almost none of you get much music so it doesn't matter. okay. i'm done for the night. peace. -kelly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HOVEY <bhoveyredfive@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Misc... Date: 10 Dec 1998 15:35:15 -0800 (PST) I think that Mp3 is a limited solution, unless evereyone would be able to cash in. If it did happen though I would be glad and happy to provide someone with money for a copy and their time. Peace Bri ---Christopher Michael Bourke <cbourke1@bigred.unl.edu> wrote: > > > > > >>I know I've been quiet lately. Anyone else feel like doing my homework > for > >>me? > > > nope > > Anyway, I've got a laundry list of Moby stuff. > > First, I want to compliment "Tone Matrix". I d/loaded his MP3 version of > Myopia (Tone Matrix) and I love it! Good going, especially on the > Spaceballs sample(s), infact I'm listening to it right now, unfortunately my > head phones suck, the right ear is out, but I did listen to it on my large > speakers and it kicks ass, love it. > > Anyway, I have a suggestion for the [defunked?] thanks and thanks II > releases: why not make all tracks available in mp3 format. I have a CD > burner, or at least access to one, so if I want them on CD I can always > transfer the tracks, but I don't necessarily want to wait so long. Is this > possible for anyone who has a copy of Thanks I and for the artists of Thanks > II? > > Finally, I saw a friend in the hall today of one of our buildings ( I go to > the University of Nebraska at Lincoln) and the guy that he was with happend > to identify me as Chris "Moby" Bourke. Apparently being a Moby fan is > unique enough to be characterized in such a manner?!?! Anyway, he claimed > that he has been playing Moby, in limited quantities on our school Radio. > Though I have never listened to our school radio, and in fact haven't listen > to the radio period in over two years(just CDs in my car), I wouldn't have > known this. So for anyone in the Lincoln, NE area, I think the Frequency is > 92.3, KRNU. > > Don't know the quality or quantity, but I thought I would share this > antecdote with you all. > > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: UHF@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Mixmag..important question.. Date: 10 Dec 1998 22:59:57 EST mixmag 7 costs quite a bit, from what i've seen, and i've never heard it. #2 is worth getting, in my opinion, for moby and for sven, even though i like svens section more than mobys. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: UHF@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby on Tour Date: 10 Dec 1998 22:55:55 EST In a message dated 12/7/98 4:02:13 PM Central Standard Time, Steve.Giles@digital.com writes: << I saw him at House Of Blues in Chicago on Dec 1st, 1997 >> i was also at the house of blues show and actually got to talk to him. i thought the show was good, and like steve said, he does need to add some live things to his act. my cousin ate dinner with him after the show, and he told him that the house of blues was one of his favorite places to play, he can do his thing and get dinner too. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michaela Gerstner <plovious@geocities.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) moms & moby Date: 11 Dec 1998 08:58:02 -0700 my mom also likes EOE, which is a shock. she usually only listens to leonard cohen, so i'm surprised that she likes something that's not leonard cohen. she hasn't asked to borrow it, but she did ask who the artist was when she walked by my room. when i told her, she was shocked and nodded her head in approval. so.. i guess there's hope for my mom after all. my dad doesn't seem to care much and my brother doesn't like moby at all.. which is good because then he'd be borrowing my cd's and never returning them! :) plovious Rob Skipworth wrote: > > My mom loves End Of Everything. She's asked to borrow it a few times, and I > believe I'm going to get if for her for christmas. She also likes a little > bit of Aphex Twin and some DJ Shadow. > > --rob > > G. Walker wrote: > > > My mom liked Revolver when it first came onto the radio; she borrowed my > > Animal Rights, blasted it around the house one afternoon when i was out. > > When i got home she said "This is boring! He only sings on a few songs!" > > She is not a fan of Moby's ambient stuff... > > -ginger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephanie Momose" <srmomo@hotmail.com> Subject: Fwd: RE: Re: (mobility) new order and other stuff Date: 11 Dec 1998 07:16:25 PST As my boyfriend has been an avid Joy Divison/New Order fan for years, I'm forwarding his comments on the Moby cover. Steph >a good new order >cover would be "thieves like us". it's a relatively depressing song. of >course "subculture" would be a good one too.... it's about the goth/vampire >lifestyle. how about a "smiths" cover??? afterall, a good remake is a >remake of a song that sounds NOTHING like the original. "heaven knows i'm >miserable now" would be a good one. i'm sure mr. moby could put his own >creative twist to that one. i don't agree with the below-mentioned idea of >moby recording "boys don't cry" by the cure. a good song would be "killing >an arab". i could hear him do that. a song called "threshold" by dead can >dance would be good. i can hear moby do that one because of the heavy >percussion, which could be tweaked into electronica. hmmmmmmm.... so much >music, so little time. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Giles <Steve.Giles@digital.com> Subject: (mobility) Moby at the cigarette store 'n' more Date: 11 Dec 1998 18:10:14 -0500 I'd like to hear Moby remix (not cover!) New Order's original version of Temptation. (not the Trainspotting one) It's one of my favorites. For those who don't know: Thanks 1 & 2 are in progress, which means not yet available, and when they are complete they will be available through this list. Just sit tight. Be patient. I thought this was obvious? Sounds like it's time to get those fingers off those delete triggers. Don't be disheartened by the uninformed, Greg. I'm aware of where this project is at and I appreciate very much the work you're putting into this. My pal John works at a cigarette store and was playing Rare when a Moby fan came in and sorta freaked out, telling John about his 60+ Moby CDs, and how cool Moby is, etc. John mentioned that he ordered a Lopez disc and the DJ Cake one and the guy was saying "excellent, excellent, wonderful, great discs" I like them, but I wouldn't sing their praises that loudly. I suppose he was just glad to see/hear somebody else listening to his favorite musician. I understand that he's a regular there, so I'm having John invite him to join us. We could use some enthusiasm around here. I finally heard Micronesia & Memory Gospel yesterday! I like Memory gospel better. In certain spots it reminds me of this one song that I can't name, tip of my tongue-type deal. Edie Brickell maybe? I'm not sure. Does this happen to you? Write the list and tell us what Moby songs remind you of... I haven't seen any mobility messages in my box all day! C'mon people, look alive! Scott "I love carrots/impeccably bred" won the Mute Honey contest! He won a Honey t-shirt! You still out there? With us? Say hello, would ya? Wish me luck. I've got this bizarre idea of mixing 'New Dawn Fades" and U2's Discotheque. I know it'll be a disaster, but hopefully it'll be an interesting disaster. A good attitude never hurt anybody..well, not that many people, that is...well I hope. Have a nice weekend. -this message should be from you, please entertain me ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathan Ruano <kobalt@james.encomix.es> Subject: (mobility) Temptation Date: 12 Dec 1998 14:13:19 +0100 On Fri, Dec 11, 1998 at 06:10:14PM -0500, Steve Giles wrote: > I'd like to hear Moby remix (not cover!) New Order's original > version of Temptation. (not the Trainspotting one) It's one of my favorites. Wow! Is there a Moby remix of that song ? The only version I know is that which is in New Order's "The best of", and in that "Blade" Soundtrack. > Wish me luck. I've got this bizarre idea of mixing 'New Dawn Fades" > and U2's Discotheque. I know it'll be a disaster, but hopefully it'll be an > interesting disaster. Almost anything is worth to listen to. You could MP3'it (at least a bit), so we can listen to it easily. -- Jonathan Ruano <kobalt@james.encomix.es> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathan Ruano <kobalt@james.encomix.es> Subject: Oops (was Re: (mobility) Temptation) Date: 12 Dec 1998 19:12:29 +0100 On Sat, Dec 12, 1998 at 02:13:19PM +0100, Jonathan Ruano wrote: > > I'd like to hear Moby remix (not cover!) New Order's original > > version of Temptation. (not the Trainspotting one) It's one of my favorites. > Wow! Is there a Moby remix of that song ? The only version I know is that > which is in New Order's "The best of", and in that "Blade" Soundtrack. Oops, the song I referred is Confusion, and not Temptation... sorry. -- Jonathan Ruano <kobalt@james.encomix.es> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson <techno_gpig@yahoo.com> Subject: (mobility) moby chart research...... Date: 13 Dec 1998 14:55:11 +0000 (GMT) first of all, moby should do some 80s synth pop/new wave covers. bring on the new order/cure/billy idol/thompson twins/e 17 (uh.....i guess im getting a little out of hand here...) anyway, yes that would be cool. he already did ndf and a deth metal version of whip it. maybe he should do a version of devo's version of "i cant get no satisfaction." that would rrrrrrule. i like orgy's cover of blue monday. its not as good as the original. but how could any version be. moby doing ndf would just be too many covers of that song. you cant have too many covers of a good song. as long As the original rocks, who needs more?????? aaaaanyway, as promised, teh library got a new book about music, the 4th edition of the greayt rock discography, and it has a moby section, and _CHART POSITIONS!!!!_ so here are some moby chart positions. all in the uk, of course, hes never charted stateside because we suck. Go-#46 (i couldve swore this one hit top ten...?) I Feel It (aka NITE)/Thousand-#38 Move-#21 (singles chart...eps are singles in the uk, but sometimes they are albums here...) Hymn (this is my dream)/ATINITBL (HOS)-#31 FSR/NDF-#30 EYTM/Blue light...-#28 EIW-#21 album ITB-#34 EIW Remix 2xcd-#25 Revolver-#50 AR-#38 JBT-#8 and of course it doesnt say honey yet, its not that new. that was like top 30 or 40 or so, right? anyway it also has some album recomendations, with a top 10 scale based on "an amalgamation of reviews, reader opinion, and my own opinion"- Story so Far-6 (out of 10) EIW-9 AR-8 (yay a good revieew or AR!!!!!) PHAAAAAT news........ i found a keyboard at the goodwilll store for two bucks!!! TWO BUCKS!!!! AND IT WORKS!!!!! YAY!!!!!! it actually has a built in sampler, but the sampler part doesnt work. but it does have some rad effects, like frequency modulation and reverb and echo. some very aphex-ish sounds. i could make a pretty phat trance/ambbient tape. the only thing is, it doesnt have a beatbox, or any beats, so ill have to find beats some other way. but i still could do some sort of moby tribute. maybe a bossa-nove version of god moving......he he he. bye == "i see ten thousand chariots, and they comin', comin' without horses"-Bob Marley, "Midnight Ravers" >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson <techno_gpig@yahoo.com> Subject: (mobility) cmj mix tape Date: 13 Dec 1998 13:18:44 -0800 (PST) aah yes, i gt the new issue of cmj monthly. damn cd in it is broken!!!!!!!! oh well. last time this happened they sent me a new one. anyway, on the cover is beth orton, one of the three "next big things" for 1999, the others being sleater-kinney and underworld. (all you dirty freaks just in case you don't know, th new album is completely finished, its as yet untitiled, and it wil be out on V2 sometime early next year....if you need a transcript of the interview, just email me PRIVATELY) anyway, every issue they have this mixtape feature, send them a cool mixtape tracklisting, and if they pick it and publish it, you win shit, like a minidisc recorder and 10 minidiscs. how this for a mix: Side One- Beck-satan gave me a taco (oooh i love this song...sorry) Amnesia-drop down jon spencer blues explosion-bellbottoms r.l. burnside-let my baby ride beastie boys-professot booty money mark-maybe im dead railroad jeerk-bang the drum they might be giants-nightgown of the sullen moon screamin jay hawkins-frenzy phish-alumni blues jasper and the prodigal sons-sincerely jasper janes addiction-of course Side Two: Elliott smith-independence day screaming trees-dying days supergrass-sometimes i make you sad modest mouse-karma payment cornershop-sleep on the left side st. johnny-scuba diving southern culture on the skids-red beans n reverb thirston moore-ono soul tori amos-blood roses hayden-skates MOBY-NOW I LET IT GO pizzicato5-happy birthday whew!!!!! proof that someone in kalispell, montana has good taste. there was another mix someone did that had "first cool hive" on it. but the best mix was one a few months ago that had roni size and madonna and pet shop boys and tricky and all sorts a goodies.....id buy it if i saw it in a store. or of course i could search for all the cds at wpkn, which btw, i will be starting dj training a next week YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so ill be playing lots a moby, no doubt. but not no doubt. well, come to think of it, i might play no doubt. but ill definitely be playing lots of deejay punk-roc and dr. octagon and orbital, hendrix, klf, trance, beatles, stereolab, maybe some negativland, soundgarden, beasties, nirvana, sun ra, etc. hmmmmmm........well, i guess this is goodbye aint it? bye == "i see ten thousand chariots, and they comin', comin' without horses"-Bob Marley, "Midnight Ravers" >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "pmc" <pmc@ga.internet.sk> Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #286 Date: 13 Dec 1998 23:18:43 +0100 hey guys, anyone knows, when is moby finally to europe? thx a lot, pmc ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Michael Bourke <cbourke1@bigred.unl.edu> Subject: (mobility) Moby n' Porn Stars Date: 13 Dec 1998 17:03:44 -0600 This may seem lurid and non-music moby related, but it was intriquing when I heard it. This guy at work claimed that Moby was a sex addict. He claimed that Moby has dated several porn stars, though he didnn't remember the source he said he read it out of some magazine. Has anyone else heard this? If so who was it? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HOVEY <bhoveyredfive@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby n' Porn Stars Date: 13 Dec 1998 16:13:54 -0800 (PST) uh......point less.......... this will only give you information to pry into someone's personal life. i would rather not know. what i would like to know is what did you find so damm intriquing about this comment? Sure lets just say its true...uh this would do what for you????? And lets say it is or was a porn star or what every would that change how you feel or listen to the music?????? Please dont think of this as a flam im just asking a few questions that came to mind as i read this. Peace Bri ---Christopher Michael Bourke <cbourke1@bigred.unl.edu> wrote: > > This may seem lurid and non-music moby related, but it was intriquing when I > heard it. > > This guy at work claimed that Moby was a sex addict. He claimed that Moby > has dated several porn stars, though he didnn't remember the source he said > he read it out of some magazine. Has anyone else heard this? If so who was > it? > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clay <clayev2k@ixpres.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby n' Porn Stars Date: 28 Aug 1998 07:27:48 +0000 > This may seem lurid and non-music moby related, but it was intriquing when I > heard it. > > This guy at work claimed that Moby was a sex addict. He claimed that Moby > has dated several porn stars, though he didnn't remember the source he said > he read it out of some magazine. Has anyone else heard this? If so who was > it? > > no...i think someone confused moby for my brother! hah ha hah ha i just could never imagine anyone to ever be hooked on love sex or beautiful women! especially some weird ass techno punk dj musician named moby> it must simply be some rumor. ALL I WANT IS TO BE NEAR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (filters ON) clay ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HOVEY <bhoveyredfive@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby n' Porn Stars Date: 13 Dec 1998 17:39:41 -0800 (PST) you know you asked the question so we answered!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what did you exoect?????? ---clay <clayev2k@ixpres.com> wrote: > > > This may seem lurid and non-music moby related, but it was intriquing when I > > heard it. > > > > This guy at work claimed that Moby was a sex addict. He claimed that Moby > > has dated several porn stars, though he didnn't remember the source he said > > he read it out of some magazine. Has anyone else heard this? If so who was > > it? > > > > > > > no...i think someone confused moby for my brother! > hah ha hah ha > > > i just could never imagine anyone to ever be hooked on love sex or > beautiful women! > especially some weird ass techno punk dj musician > named moby> > > it must simply be some rumor. > ALL I WANT IS TO BE NEAR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > (filters ON) > > > clay > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Turpin <jct1@Ra.MsState.Edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) moms & moby Date: 13 Dec 1998 22:06:34 -0600 All I can contribute to this thread is that my mom once said that the slower half of "Hymn (european edit)" sounded like "real music." Thanks, Mom. =] -- C The C.O.D. John Turpin | <jct1@ / \ Ra.MsState.Edu> O D <http://www2.msstate.edu/~jct1/cod/> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr. Killpatient" <rfu@stitch.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby n' Porn Stars Date: 14 Dec 1998 04:10:52 -0800 it's like the Prez, he deserves it if he is getting down...he's Moby! Let him have all the sex he needs and don't crufify him if he does...he's human. It's really just Evil Ninja Moby doing that shit, not just plain Moby. I got the impression from the first post that we should hold an impeachment hearing for Moby... not paul BRIAN HOVEY wrote: > > uh......point less.......... this will only give you information to > pry into someone's personal life. i would rather not know. what i > would like to know is what did you find so damm intriquing about this > comment? Sure lets just say its true...uh this would do what for > you????? And lets say it is or was a porn star or what every would > that change how you feel or listen to the music?????? > > Please dont think of this as a flam im just asking a few questions > that came to mind as i read this. > Peace > Bri > > ---Christopher Michael Bourke <cbourke1@bigred.unl.edu> wrote: > > > > This may seem lurid and non-music moby related, but it was > intriquing when I > > heard it. > > > > This guy at work claimed that Moby was a sex addict. He claimed > that Moby > > has dated several porn stars, though he didnn't remember the source > he said > > he read it out of some magazine. Has anyone else heard this? If so > who was > > it? > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Damian <damian@xmission.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby n' Porn Stars Date: 14 Dec 1998 07:14:51 -0700 "Dr. Killpatient" wrote: > > I got the impression from the first post that we should hold an impeachment > hearing for Moby... Didn't seem like that to me. But Moby is well known for his sexual appetite and willingness to be open about it. I mean how many times have we heard about his enthusiasm for anal sex? How many pictures have been taken w/him and some other scantily clad woman? And what about his involvement in a film who's topic deals with the porn industry? The sexual being the Moby IS... adds up in many different ways and opinions. =) Damian. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MOBYchild@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby n' Porn Stars Date: 14 Dec 1998 16:31:34 EST actually, in a very old Rolling Stone magazine, there was a mention of moby stating in an interview that he had dated porn stars/prostitutes. i could be mistaken on the particulars of the article, but it was somthing to that effect. william. In a message dated 12/13/1998 5:07:22 PM Central Standard Time, cbourke1@bigred.unl.edu writes: > This may seem lurid and non-music moby related, but it was intriquing when I > heard it. > > This guy at work claimed that Moby was a sex addict. He claimed that Moby > has dated several porn stars, though he didnn't remember the source he said > he read it out of some magazine. Has anyone else heard this? If so who was > it? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HOVEY <bhoveyredfive@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby n' Porn Stars Date: 14 Dec 1998 14:13:41 -0800 (PST) once again who the HEELLLLLLLLLL cares. If fighting about what music sucks bothers people how come this mindless babble about mobys sex life is so thrilling to everyone???? I dont care if he likes sex with his pets, can we please change the topic. It sucks and not right to try to pry and assume. It is the holiday season after all!!!!!!!!! Peace Bri ---MOBYchild@aol.com wrote: > > actually, in a very old Rolling Stone magazine, there was a mention of moby > stating in an interview that he had dated porn stars/prostitutes. i could be > mistaken on the particulars of the article, but it was somthing to that > effect. > > william. > > > In a message dated 12/13/1998 5:07:22 PM Central Standard Time, > cbourke1@bigred.unl.edu writes: > > > This may seem lurid and non-music moby related, but it was intriquing when I > > heard it. > > > > This guy at work claimed that Moby was a sex addict. He claimed that Moby > > has dated several porn stars, though he didnn't remember the source he said > > he read it out of some magazine. Has anyone else heard this? If so who > was > > it? > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Giles <Steve.Giles@digital.com> Subject: (mobility) Santa Moby... Porn Souffle Date: 14 Dec 1998 18:03:43 -0500 Brian Hovey wrote: >>once again who the HEELLLLLLLLLL cares. Brian, it's difficult to stop a conversation but it's easy to change the subject. Try that tack next time. Also, just becuase we are discussing a controversial topic doesn't mean we're placing or implying judgement in relation to it. I can discuss sex without appointing myself Moby's judge. I can describe myself without the stereotype police showing up and looking for transgressions. (well, I'd like to anyways) If I recall correctly, Moby is on record as having dated a stripper. He is fascinated with pornography and the surrounding culture. I don't beleive he's dated a porn star, however. He's appeared in Playboy or Playgirl wearing a sock. Studly guy, eh? As long as he stays away from soap operas I'll have no problem with Moby having poor taste. :) If Thanks 2 turns out anything like this list is lately, it'll be funeral music. Speaking of space aliens, I got the Permanent Midnight soundtrack today. Looks very tasty! This platter is marinated in Spring Heel Jack, braised in Crystal Method, and pureed with BT. Optional ingredients include Spiritualized and Prodigy. (use sparingly) Mandatory coating of "Honey" and this delicacy will amaze your guests! Enjoy. Ok, I know you're being bombarded with holiday bullshit already. All the same, let's hear your wild 'n' zany Moby Christmas carol ideas. Maybe go caroling (sp?) door to door with "God Moving.." in the background? That would be nice. Tradition is boring, anyways. (ducks bullets) Perhaps "All That I Want Is To Be Santa"? (ducks cannonball) No way. I like to score gifts? Everything Is Wrapped? -Steve "Friends don't let friends write stupid messages." -Anonymous ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clay <clayev2k@ixpres.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby n' Porn Stars Date: 29 Aug 1998 08:47:36 +0000 > I dont care if he likes sex with > his pets, can we please change the topic. maybe you don't care brian but i'd kinda like to know.....can this be? i used to work for a man who used to spank his poodle on/in the most provacative regions and it was really amazing to me that he would think that i didn't think he was pretty damned weird. so to make my point>>>>>>> i would kind of like to know if this moby man did indeed enjoy his pets more than what is considered normal. if so...i would certainly have to go the library and ask that his work be removed from inventory. okay...NOW you can change the subject which once again is an old anyway........ and what i think is really hilarious is that mr. bourke has his filter on and so he can't even read THIS CRAP! he is a smart and lucky soul......indeed......and even called moby! in places! gollllly! (anyway back to our wee mouths program.) clay ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michaela Gerstner" <plovious@geocities.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby n' Porn Stars Date: 15 Dec 1998 11:56:10 -0700 on a new topic.. did anyone know that Moby did a song for the recent MOM (Music for Our Mother ocean) cd? i was in a CD store yesterday and i noticed there was a new release. i saw moby on the track list.. but i forgot the song. something with blue light underwater... i think. i know there was blue and water in it. i think it's fairly new, i haven't heard of it before. then again, i'm not as skilled with moby tracks... i didn't buy it because i didn't like the rest of the artists/bands on there and $17.99 was a bit pricey for buying a CD with one track that i wanted. plov -----Original Message----- >actually, in a very old Rolling Stone magazine, there was a mention of moby >stating in an interview that he had dated porn stars/prostitutes. i could be >mistaken on the particulars of the article, but it was somthing to that >effect. > >william. > > >In a message dated 12/13/1998 5:07:22 PM Central Standard Time, >cbourke1@bigred.unl.edu writes: > >> This may seem lurid and non-music moby related, but it was intriquing when I >> heard it. >> >> This guy at work claimed that Moby was a sex addict. He claimed that Moby >> has dated several porn stars, though he didnn't remember the source he said >> he read it out of some magazine. Has anyone else heard this? If so who >was >> it? > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathan Ruano <kobalt@james.encomix.es> Subject: (mobility) The Blue Light Of The Underwater Sun Date: 15 Dec 1998 20:10:08 +0100 On Tue, Dec 15, 1998 at 11:56:10AM -0700, Michaela Gerstner wrote: > on a new topic.. did anyone know that Moby did a song for the recent MOM > (Music for Our Mother ocean) cd? i was in a CD store yesterday and i > noticed there was a new release. i saw moby on the track list.. but i > forgot the song. something with blue light underwater... i think. There's a song with the subject's title on EYTM single (Elektra's just in case there's more than one). It's starting is great, and the change even better, although I'd like to hear an only "relax" version. > i know > there was blue and water in it. i think it's fairly new, i haven't heard of > it before. then again, i'm not as skilled with moby tracks... i didn't buy -- Jonathan Ruano <kobalt@james.encomix.es> np: Moby / Revolver (Remix) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Giles <Steve.Giles@digital.com> Subject: (mobility) Momy's Perm Date: 15 Dec 1998 16:34:29 -0500 Plovious wrote: >><snip> (Music for Our Mother ocean) >><snip> something with blue light underwater... <snip> Hi Plovious! That would be The Blue Light Of The Underwater Sun. It's also on the Everytime You Touch Me single. Ul He Fu, which is on Mayday:Judgement Day, I think, is a hyper version sans dolphins & intro. Both very cool songs. Blue Light starts out with a hypnotic monologue spoken by Moby, and it is the only Moby song I can think of offhand with political commentary inside the song. Moby tells a tale of utopian life as a dolphin and ends it abruptly with the dolphins getting caught in the 'nets of commercial fishermen'. It then flies into the song, which is a antagonized UHF style pulse pounder w/ dolphin squaks used as musical instruments, sort of. It's on the US release and one of the UK ones. It's the most common single for me to see on shelves near me. (the US one) Well, the Permanent Midnight soundtrack has a slightly different mix of Honey than the single version. It has extra vocal layerings in some parts (the "Homegrown...homegrown" you hear in RJ's mix." It also has these extra drum drops in certain spots. Most of the lyrics are lines that span two measures, and in one part of this mix only the first half (first measure) of a line is repeated over each measure instead of flowing forwards like the single mix. The funk guitar plays all the way until the end, and there are two chords (I think) played after the end of the song. (where the single mix ended, that is) Whew. The rest of the soundtrack varies in quality. The Art Alexis song is atrocious. So is this song called "Cigarette'. That one is about wanting to be a girl's cigarette, becuase he's be on her lips & in her pocket, etc., etc. Horrid stuff, really. The BT is cool, the Crystal Method is simple structurally, but cooool sonically, like always, and the Permanent Theme is a nice techno piece. Good CD, overall, despite the few dubious selections. Talk to me. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HOVEY <bhoveyredfive@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Santa Moby... Porn Souffle Date: 15 Dec 1998 15:40:15 -0800 (PST) ---Steve Giles <Steve.Giles@digital.com> wrote: > "Friends don't let friends write stupid messages." -Anonymous > > WHAT EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HOVEY <bhoveyredfive@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby n' Porn Stars Date: 15 Dec 1998 15:34:59 -0800 (PST) well mr. clay i guess that you do in fact have a point i guess that we would have to ask that his work be removed and knowing how the american public (excuse me my canidian friends and others), reacts to the media blitz that this would creat their would be a public display of moby mis. burning including turntables that have been insired by him. this is fun again evolution 20000!!!!!!!!! Peace Bri do i even care anymore?????? i dont know........ ---clay <clayev2k@ixpres.com> wrote: > > > I dont care if he likes sex with > > his pets, can we please change the topic. > > > maybe you don't care brian > but i'd kinda like to know.....can this be? > i used to work for a man who used to spank his poodle on/in the most > provacative regions > and it was really amazing to me that he would think that i didn't think > he was pretty damned weird. > so to make my point>>>>>>> > i would kind of like to know if this moby man did indeed > enjoy his pets more than what is considered normal. > if so...i would certainly have to go the library and ask that his work > be removed from inventory. > okay...NOW you can change the subject which > once again > is an old anyway........ > and what i think is really hilarious is that mr. bourke has his filter > on > and so he can't even read THIS CRAP! > > > he is a smart and lucky soul......indeed......and even called moby! > in places! gollllly! > > > (anyway > back to our wee mouths program.) > > > > > > > > clay > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HOVEY <bhoveyredfive@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby n' Porn Stars Date: 15 Dec 1998 15:34:59 -0800 (PST) well mr. clay i guess that you do in fact have a point i guess that we would have to ask that his work be removed and knowing how the american public (excuse me my canidian friends and others), reacts to the media blitz that this would creat their would be a public display of moby mis. burning including turntables that have been insired by him. this is fun again evolution 20000!!!!!!!!! Peace Bri do i even care anymore?????? i dont know........ ---clay <clayev2k@ixpres.com> wrote: > > > I dont care if he likes sex with > > his pets, can we please change the topic. > > > maybe you don't care brian > but i'd kinda like to know.....can this be? > i used to work for a man who used to spank his poodle on/in the most > provacative regions > and it was really amazing to me that he would think that i didn't think > he was pretty damned weird. > so to make my point>>>>>>> > i would kind of like to know if this moby man did indeed > enjoy his pets more than what is considered normal. > if so...i would certainly have to go the library and ask that his work > be removed from inventory. > okay...NOW you can change the subject which > once again > is an old anyway........ > and what i think is really hilarious is that mr. bourke has his filter > on > and so he can't even read THIS CRAP! > > > he is a smart and lucky soul......indeed......and even called moby! > in places! gollllly! > > > (anyway > back to our wee mouths program.) > > > > > > > > clay > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Underwater.. Date: 15 Dec 1998 21:00:51 EST this was the name of the double cd which Moby released on EIW right...does anyone know how i can get this....love..elie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michaela Gerstner <plovious@geocities.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Momy's Perm Date: 16 Dec 1998 10:08:42 -0700 hmm... i'll have to buy the Everytime You Touch Me single, then. moby is the only artist i like on that MOM cd.. so i don't think it's worth buying just for that one song. thanks for the info.! plov Steve Giles wrote: > > Plovious wrote: > >><snip> (Music for Our Mother ocean) > >><snip> something with blue light underwater... <snip> > > Hi Plovious! That would be The Blue Light Of The Underwater Sun. It's also > on the Everytime You Touch Me single. Ul He Fu, which is on Mayday:Judgement > Day, I think, is a hyper version sans dolphins & intro. Both very cool > songs. Blue Light starts out with a hypnotic monologue spoken by Moby, and > it is the only Moby song I can think of offhand with political commentary > inside the song. Moby tells a tale of utopian life as a dolphin and ends it > abruptly with the dolphins getting caught in the 'nets of commercial > fishermen'. It then flies into the song, which is a antagonized UHF style > pulse pounder w/ dolphin squaks used as musical instruments, sort of. It's > on the US release and one of the UK ones. It's the most common single for me > to see on shelves near me. (the US one) > > Well, the Permanent Midnight soundtrack has a slightly different mix of > Honey than the single version. It has extra vocal layerings in some parts > (the "Homegrown...homegrown" you hear in RJ's mix." It also has these extra > drum drops in certain spots. Most of the lyrics are lines that span two > measures, and in one part of this mix only the first half (first measure) of > a line is repeated over each measure instead of flowing forwards like the > single mix. The funk guitar plays all the way until the end, and there are > two chords (I think) played after the end of the song. (where the single mix > ended, that is) Whew. > > The rest of the soundtrack varies in quality. The Art Alexis song is > atrocious. So is this song called "Cigarette'. That one is about wanting to > be a girl's cigarette, becuase he's be on her lips & in her pocket, etc., > etc. Horrid stuff, really. The BT is cool, the Crystal Method is simple > structurally, but cooool sonically, like always, and the Permanent Theme is > a nice techno piece. Good CD, overall, despite the few dubious selections. > > Talk to me. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: <FRIE1_98@worc.ac.uk> Subject: (mobility) HAPPY CHRISTMAS Date: 16 Dec 1998 17:14:31 +0000 HAPPY CHRISTMAS AND NEW YEAR ED ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Freak <dtlogue@mailbox.syr.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) Momy's Perm Date: 16 Dec 1998 19:20:09 -0500 (EST) Besides Honey, I regret buying permanent midnite. I really don't like anything else on it....what a letdown. =[ Crystal method is ok, I'm really not a big BT fan, so overall, I don't think it was that great, but I got it used, and now I know why. I really didn't notice that the honey was different. thanx for bringing that up....I'm going to go check out what you said. laters, danielle On Tue, 15 Dec 1998, Steve Giles wrote: > > Plovious wrote: > >><snip> (Music for Our Mother ocean) > >><snip> something with blue light underwater... <snip> > > Hi Plovious! That would be The Blue Light Of The Underwater Sun. It's also > on the Everytime You Touch Me single. Ul He Fu, which is on Mayday:Judgement > Day, I think, is a hyper version sans dolphins & intro. Both very cool > songs. Blue Light starts out with a hypnotic monologue spoken by Moby, and > it is the only Moby song I can think of offhand with political commentary > inside the song. Moby tells a tale of utopian life as a dolphin and ends it > abruptly with the dolphins getting caught in the 'nets of commercial > fishermen'. It then flies into the song, which is a antagonized UHF style > pulse pounder w/ dolphin squaks used as musical instruments, sort of. It's > on the US release and one of the UK ones. It's the most common single for me > to see on shelves near me. (the US one) > > Well, the Permanent Midnight soundtrack has a slightly different mix of > Honey than the single version. It has extra vocal layerings in some parts > (the "Homegrown...homegrown" you hear in RJ's mix." It also has these extra > drum drops in certain spots. Most of the lyrics are lines that span two > measures, and in one part of this mix only the first half (first measure) of > a line is repeated over each measure instead of flowing forwards like the > single mix. The funk guitar plays all the way until the end, and there are > two chords (I think) played after the end of the song. (where the single mix > ended, that is) Whew. > > The rest of the soundtrack varies in quality. The Art Alexis song is > atrocious. So is this song called "Cigarette'. That one is about wanting to > be a girl's cigarette, becuase he's be on her lips & in her pocket, etc., > etc. Horrid stuff, really. The BT is cool, the Crystal Method is simple > structurally, but cooool sonically, like always, and the Permanent Theme is > a nice techno piece. Good CD, overall, despite the few dubious selections. > > Talk to me. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ryan Gossett" <skarules75@hotmail.com> Subject: (mobility) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 08:19:06 PST Date: 17 Dec 1998 10:28:09 -0700 >Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 03:07:15 -0700 >From: Damian <damian@xmission.com> >To: Mobility <mobility@lists.xmission.com> >Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > >Approved: fatboy >From: Damian <owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com> >Subject: [Fwd: Moby [Mobility] mailing list - please announce!] > > >Well gang, here's some holiday cheer from our old friend at CNotes. >He's not currently subscribed to the mailing list but he's tried helping >me out in the past and the list on a promotion. > >When I first read the attached email I didn't notice the part where it >mentions "all first-time buyers" receive $10 off their order. So not >noticing the "first-time buyer" thing, I tried it... > >I clicked on the link in the email. It brought me to Music Boulevard >where at the top of the page I noticed a little icon saying something >about getting $10 off. I clicked on that. I soon found out that it was >an offer for first time buyers only. Remembering the email I decided to >continue and try shopping for a CD anyway. When it came time to check >out... on the 2nd confirmation screen... the $10 discount showed up! > >I made the purchase and the receipt reflected the discount even though I >shop there on occasion and already have an established account. >Yippee! Figuring that the link worked, I returned to the email that >Greg sent so I could forward it to the list. It was then that I FINALLY >noticed that the offer was for first time buyers all along. > >I'm assuming that by clicking both links the offer was given. > >Use it as you like. =) > >Cheers! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Geoffrey Sproule" <gsproule@x-stream.co.uk> Subject: (mobility) and then there were one Date: 17 Dec 1998 19:12:35 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BE29F1.346D7B80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable when is moby going to be playing live in ireland. I have never seen him = but have his live at the splash club cd and the songs from the come on = baby cd which totally rock. what does the dancy stuff sound like live, = does he sing on it also or use sampled vocals. =20 i think he should release a live version of animal rights or a remix = version like he did with every thing is wrong. i have been trying = desperetly to get under water but to no avail is it good or bad as it is = v hard to come by. =20 has anyone heard any other tracks from his new album (i take it memory = gospel and micronesia will not be included) and will it be available = with a bonus disk like both EIW and AR before it. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BE29F1.346D7B80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 5.00.0518.7"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>when is moby going to be playing = live in=20 ireland. I have never seen him but have his live at the splash = club cd and=20 the songs from the come on baby cd which totally rock. what = does the=20 dancy stuff sound like live, does he sing on it also or use sampled=20 vocals.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>i think he should release a live = version of=20 animal rights or a remix version like he did with every thing is = wrong. i=20 have been trying desperetly to get under water but to no avail is it = good or bad=20 as it is v hard to come by.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>has anyone heard any other tracks = from his new=20 album (i take it memory gospel and micronesia will not be included) and = will it=20 be available with a bonus disk like both EIW and AR before = it.</FONT></DIV> </DIV> </BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BE29F1.346D7B80-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve418@u2fan.com Subject: (mobility) I am found. Date: 17 Dec 1998 15:19:04 -0500 (EST) Hello All! German Moby Bio page: http://www.laut.de/wortlaut/moby/index.htm There's a brief review of Honey at: http://www.nme.com You'll have to search for that one, it's in the middle of a singles review page for August. There is also UK tour info for Underworld (w/ New Order!) and info about their new album due in March. I was talking to a couple of you privately. Please resend those messages to this address if you sent them after 4 pm yesterday. Thank you. Get free personalized email from Rolling Stone at http://email.rollingstone.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson <techno_gpig@yahoo.com> Subject: (mobility) moby's dick! Date: 17 Dec 1998 11:39:22 -0800 (PST) yeah really stop with this moby sex stuff. pretty soon well have to change the list name to moBILLity!!!! ha ha.... oh yes, someone about 5 or 6 digests ago aasked about what moby songs remind you of what songs....or something. anyway, "shining" kinda reminds me of FSOL's "cascade". at least the mix of cascade on sasha n digweed's cd northen exposure. at least for the vocal sample, which i know is not the same, but reminds me of it. plus theyre both emotional, kinda-but-not-really-trancey type songs that are cool. i dont know i gotta write something here!! hmmmmmm......... anything else.... oh yeah i never said this, but the sampler part of my keyboard works. yay! so i probably will do a moby tribute thing. i just dont know what yet. but dont sign me up until im sure. anyway, did anyone hear about the guy from blues clues, steve? according to popular rumors at my and my sisters schools, he died of a heroin overdose! i know thats kind of mean to think its a little funny, but, when i told my mom, she giggled. i mean, what kind of a role model is this guy? how is Shitkelodeon gonna explain to these kids why blues clues isnt on anymore? now what the fuck did that have to do with moby? sorry if theres any blues clues fans out there. same for fans of nickelodeon, which is eviler than MTV. please dont talk about this anymore. np in my head (god knows why, as i havent heard this song in forever):bloodhound gang "fire water burn" == HOMER SIMPSON IS NOT A JEW, BUT GUESS WHO IS.... >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< HAPPY CHANUKAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "krwilson" <krwilson@discover-net.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) moby's dick! Date: 17 Dec 1998 15:20:54 -0600 MTV(Motherfucking tune vandals) owns nickle-odian. I bet Mcdonalds owns them both. MO ---------- > now what the fuck did that have to do with moby? sorry if theres any > blues clues fans out there. same for fans of nickelodeon, which is > eviler than MTV. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "krwilson" <krwilson@discover-net.net> Subject: (mobility) Death dirge Date: 17 Dec 1998 15:58:14 -0600 Wanna have some fun,people? Toke a big bowl(optional) and listen to the "whip it " cover on 33 rpm. It sounds so deliciously evil that i don't even listen to it at 45 anymore. It makes for an excellent listen: "Thats when i reach for my revolver" on 45 and "Whip it" (REAL death metal mix) on 33. Have fun, i did! MO ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Michael Bourke <cbourke1@bigred.unl.edu> Subject: (mobility) Beastie Moby Date: 18 Dec 1998 02:19:23 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BE2A2C.D41005A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just saw the Beastie Boy's video for "Body Movin'". I thought it was = absurdly halarious, you have to see it to understand. Anyway, it had a = different mix than that of the album track though it gave no credit or = title for the remix. Does anyone know what's up? Who did the remix? =20 In case you think this isn't Moby related, read on. This reminded me of people's ideas for colaborations with Moby. My = favorite idea from this discussion was a colaboration with the Beastie = Boys. However, what kind of colaboration would be best? Neither are = well known for remixes of other people's songs, which makes them great = at original tracks, so in a colaboration, would it be best for Moby to = remix a beastie track, vise versa, or something else? I loved the = concept of the Spawn soundtrack that came out, a bunch of hard rock = bands remixed by "electronica" artists(sorry for the use of the word). = I would love the idea to be extended to BB and Moby. BB could get back = to their punk roots and let moby handle the samples/mixing etc... =20 What do's you think? ________________________________________________________ The resistance to a new idea increases by the square of its importance = -Bertrand Russell cbourke1@bigred.unl.edu screwtape@tcgcs.com cbourke@cse.unl.edu Otaku Jinrui Home Page: http://abeln049.unl.edu ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BE2A2C.D41005A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.71.1712.3"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I just saw the Beastie Boy's video for "Body=20 Movin'". I thought it was absurdly halarious, you have to see = it to=20 understand. Anyway, it had a different mix than that of the album = track=20 though it gave no credit or title for the remix. Does anyone know = what's=20 up? Who did the remix? </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>In case you think this isn't Moby related, read=20 on.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>This reminded me of people's ideas for colaborations = with=20 Moby. My favorite idea from this discussion was a colaboration = with the=20 Beastie Boys. However, what kind of colaboration would be = best? =20 Neither are well known for remixes of other people's songs, which makes = them=20 great at original tracks, so in a colaboration, would it be best for = Moby to=20 remix a beastie track, vise versa, or something else? I loved the = concept=20 of the Spawn soundtrack that came out, a bunch of hard rock bands = remixed by=20 "electronica" artists(sorry for the use of the word). I = would=20 love the idea to be extended to BB and Moby. BB could get back to = their=20 punk roots and let moby handle the samples/mixing etc... = </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>What do's you think?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000=20 size=3D2>________________________________________________________<BR>The = resistance to a new idea increases by the square of its=20 importance<BR> = ; = &= nbsp; &n= bsp; &nb= sp; &nbs= p; =20 -Bertrand Russell<BR><A=20 href=3D"mailto:cbourke1@bigred.unl.edu">cbourke1@bigred.unl.edu</A><BR><A= =20 href=3D"mailto:screwtape@tcgcs.com">screwtape@tcgcs.com</A><BR><A=20 href=3D"mailto:cbourke@cse.unl.edu">cbourke@cse.unl.edu</A></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Otaku Jinrui Home Page: <A=20 href=3D"http://abeln049.unl.edu">http://abeln049.unl.edu</A><BR></FONT>&n= bsp;</DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BE2A2C.D41005A0-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: UHF@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Beastie Moby Date: 18 Dec 1998 10:27:47 EST i'd actually like to see moby do what mmm does for the beaties right now, beats, scratching, all that. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Geoffrey Sproule" <gsproule@x-stream.co.uk> Subject: (mobility) yes i am a long way from home Date: 18 Dec 1998 20:58:05 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01BE2AC9.1BE15D60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable does moby ever read the list ??? if he does it would be great to preview the album online or even do a live online broadcast something like ISDN by the future sound of London what do you think??? ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01BE2AC9.1BE15D60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 5.00.0518.7"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>does moby ever read the list = ???</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>if he does it would be great to = preview the=20 album online</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>or even do a live online = broadcast</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>something like ISDN by the future = sound of=20 London</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>what do you think???</FONT></DIV> </BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01BE2AC9.1BE15D60-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve418@u2fan.com Subject: (mobility) Long way from home... Date: 18 Dec 1998 18:20:26 -0500 (EST) That would be cool if Moby stopped in and dropped some hints and samples for us, I know it would increase the level of interest. I don't think it's likey, though, because the first time Moby had contact with the online community he was practically drawn & quartered. Since then he only does the occasional chat session. He hasn't this year, I suppose he's busy with writing and production! And being a movie star. I don't think Moby & Beastie Boys would be a good combo. It would sound cool, of course, but I don't think it would be anything special. Moby makes party music, like the BBs, but Moby's has depth and punch. The Beasties just have a lot of punch. I like them, but for me they get worn out quickly. I'd recommend Tori Amos, but BT has allready done that very well. The singer from Opus III, now that would be great! If you've ever heard "It's A Fine Day", you know what I mean. Orbital sampled that for Halycon (On+On). Wait, nevermind, Moby did "I Talk To The Wind" remixes for Opus III already. They're very hard to find, though. Hmm. I'd like to hear Moby's take on on Aphex Twin's drill 'n' bass style, Moby could hyper that up in interesting ways. have a great weekend, -Steve Get free personalized email from Rolling Stone at http://email.rollingstone.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson <techno_gpig@yahoo.com> Subject: (mobility) library, questions Date: 19 Dec 1998 07:07:29 -0800 (PST) my mom, the librarian, found this website that lists all the stuff that most of the libraries in CT have. so i looked up moby, and besides books about moby dick and moby grape records, i found: EIW available on CD at: Greenwich PL, Marlboro PL, Middletown PL, Middletown PL (guess they have two copies...or maybe ones on tape or sumpin) AR w/ LI 2cd:Greenwich PL (those rich snobs!!!) James Bond sdtk w/ moby's JBT:Grenwich PL, Stamford PL well there you have it, so obviously only the rich libraries have moby cds. damn. us peasants cant aford cool music ;) seriously, greenwich and stamford are right near the NY border, and they have unbelievable budgets, and thats the kind of library where all the rich bigwigs go to, the kind that are offended at the sight of people who have less money than them. people like dave letterman live in greenwich. ive never been in this library, but ive heard some nasty shit about it, like you have to order your books ahead of time, and then they give them to you at like a drive-thru window, you cant just go in and browse.....awful. oh ys, i found this other moby book. its called "moby dog". its by alexander steele. its inspired by mdick. and it stars that lovable dog wishbone, star of his own tv show on PBS! so that has nothing to do with moby, damn some of these libraries (particularly the snotty, rich ones i mentioned before) have some neat shit at them tho...like roni size, and massive attack (all 3 normal albums...but not the mad proffesor dub) and black eyed peas and all types a shit. aaaaaaaanyway, got some questions that i asked b4 and nobody answered. okay, so moby has recorded as Mario Sorrenti, Julie (?) Sorrenti, and Roberto Sorrenti, so ive heard. what songs has he done under these names? on modern rock live, he even said this was true. so like, what songs did he do as these? were they released under those names, like lopez and dj cake cds? were they producer credits? were they guests on other artists cds? were they remix credits? come on! im sure someone knows this! right? and i also heard a rumor (which i can understand would be false) that moby recorded an ep of country music, and it sucked bad. anyone know of this? or are those damn rawk djs just saying bs as usual? aand i know there not referring to AR, it was just before AR came out, when they were playing "revolver" when it just came out. but he did say on MRL that he liked how free he was in his studio, and that he could be a techno dj one day, a country musician the other, a punk the next, etc. but he said country. ????????????????????????????????????????????????? come on people! is this a moby list or a moby list? bye................................... == HOMER SIMPSON IS NOT A JEW, BUT GUESS WHO IS.... >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< HAPPY CHANUKAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brad Caviness" <bigwig@arkansas.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) library, questions Date: 19 Dec 1998 09:18:28 -0600 -----Original Message----- >okay, so moby has recorded as Mario Sorrenti, Julie (?) Sorrenti, and >Roberto Sorrenti, so ive heard. what songs has he done under these >names? > He recorded Oil1/Oil2 for release on Trophy under the Sorenti moniker, but then the track was optioned for the Saint and plans for the single went in the dust bin. >and i also heard a rumor (which i can understand would be false) that >moby recorded an ep of country music, and it sucked bad. anyone know >of this? > He did record a number of "country" songs a while back, but no one, in his words, will ever, ever hear them if he has anything to do about it, because they suck hardcore. Feel better now? BSC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HOVEY <bhoveyredfive@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) library, questions Date: 19 Dec 1998 07:37:06 -0800 (PST) Actually you can hear a little bit of his coutry "voice" if youve gone to see him and enough people yell for sweet home albama, god i love to hear him do that!! Peacwe Bri ---Brad Caviness <bigwig@arkansas.net> wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Simpson > >okay, so moby has recorded as Mario Sorrenti, Julie (?) Sorrenti, and > >Roberto Sorrenti, so ive heard. what songs has he done under these > >names? > > > He recorded Oil1/Oil2 for release on Trophy under the Sorenti moniker, but > then the track was optioned for the Saint and plans for the single went in > the dust bin. > > >and i also heard a rumor (which i can understand would be false) that > >moby recorded an ep of country music, and it sucked bad. anyone know > >of this? > > > He did record a number of "country" songs a while back, but no one, in his > words, will ever, ever hear them if he has anything to do about it, because > they suck hardcore. > > Feel better now? > > BSC > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HOVEY <bhoveyredfive@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) library, questions Date: 19 Dec 1998 07:37:06 -0800 (PST) Actually you can hear a little bit of his coutry "voice" if youve gone to see him and enough people yell for sweet home albama, god i love to hear him do that!! Peacwe Bri ---Brad Caviness <bigwig@arkansas.net> wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Simpson > >okay, so moby has recorded as Mario Sorrenti, Julie (?) Sorrenti, and > >Roberto Sorrenti, so ive heard. what songs has he done under these > >names? > > > He recorded Oil1/Oil2 for release on Trophy under the Sorenti moniker, but > then the track was optioned for the Saint and plans for the single went in > the dust bin. > > >and i also heard a rumor (which i can understand would be false) that > >moby recorded an ep of country music, and it sucked bad. anyone know > >of this? > > > He did record a number of "country" songs a while back, but no one, in his > words, will ever, ever hear them if he has anything to do about it, because > they suck hardcore. > > Feel better now? > > BSC > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dan perry" <danperry@execpc.com> Subject: (mobility) moby and related for sale Date: 19 Dec 1998 10:03:41 -0600 (CST) all prices include shipping. 5$ brian eno: fractal zoom DE CD warner bros. W0116CD this CD has the naive mix 1 by moby. the US CD has many more remixes by moby, so this is pretty much for a devout collector only unless you can't find the US CDS for fractal zoom. 5$ moby: bring back my happiness DE CD mute INT 826.673 5$ moby: next is the E US CD instinct EX-247-2 5$ the heads: damage i've done US CD MCA/radioactive MCADM-55229 [x4] includes two mixes by moby seeyuz... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HOVEY <bhoveyredfive@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Beastie Moby Date: 19 Dec 1998 09:05:57 -0800 (PST) ---Christopher Michael Bourke <cbourke1@bigred.unl.edu> wrote: > > I just saw the Beastie Boy's video for "Body Movin'". I thought it was absurdly halarious, you have to see it to understand. Anyway, it had a different mix than that of the album track though it gave no credit or title for the remix. Does anyone know what's up? Who did the remix? > I think that it was Fat boy slim _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HOVEY <bhoveyredfive@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Beastie Moby Date: 19 Dec 1998 09:05:57 -0800 (PST) ---Christopher Michael Bourke <cbourke1@bigred.unl.edu> wrote: > > I just saw the Beastie Boy's video for "Body Movin'". I thought it was absurdly halarious, you have to see it to understand. Anyway, it had a different mix than that of the album track though it gave no credit or title for the remix. Does anyone know what's up? Who did the remix? > I think that it was Fat boy slim _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clay <clayev2k@ixpres.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Beastie Moby Date: 19 Dec 1998 14:09:21 +0000 > ---Christopher Michael Bourke <cbourke1@bigred.unl.edu> wrote: > > > > I just saw the Beastie Boy's video for "Body Movin'". I thought it > was absurdly halarious, you have to see it to understand. Anyway, it > had a different mix than that of the album track though it gave no > credit or title for the remix. Does anyone know what's up? Who did > the remix? > > > I think that it was Fat boy slim > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? gosh darn it's damned good being on this beastie's list and the level of informative stuff just truly astounds the mind and level heads of those who only unite around things which are non hip-hop and atrocious. yup...beasties hate hip-hop.........right. agreement everywhere.....on that one...yes....i'm sure. whokay and of course beasties were never commercial for a second> though they could brag their "dad's religion was money....." eh? they said it...not me. bye ya got me filtered anyway> smartie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Geoffrey Sproule" <gsproule@x-stream.co.uk> Subject: (mobility) may the lord have mercy on your soul Date: 20 Dec 1998 01:25:44 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01BE2BB7.AA359380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would love to hear some funk or soul remixes my moby just think what he could do with a James brown sample or an Aretha? = Franklin track I would think a beastie boy remix or colerabiation would suck big time=20 moby is an innovator if he remixed Atari teenage riot or bjork it would = make my day# or if they remixed a moby track just think what aleck empire could do to = micronesia what do you think ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01BE2BB7.AA359380 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 5.00.0518.7"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I would love to hear some funk or = soul remixes=20 my moby</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>just think what he could do with a = James brown=20 sample or an Aretha? Franklin track</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I would think a beastie boy remix or colerabiation = would suck=20 big time </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>moby is an innovator if he remixed Atari teenage = riot or bjork=20 it would make my day#</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>or if they remixed a moby track just think what = aleck empire=20 could do to micronesia</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>what do you think</FONT></DIV> </BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01BE2BB7.AA359380-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Geoffrey Sproule" <gsproule@x-stream.co.uk> Subject: (mobility) art for art's sake Date: 20 Dec 1998 01:28:11 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01BE2BB8.01F28380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable does moby do any other form of art i.e. painting, directing etc if so where can you see any of his work he is just so talented as a = music composer ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01BE2BB8.01F28380 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 5.00.0518.7"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>does moby do any other form of art = i.e.=20 painting, directing etc</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>if so where can you see any of his = work he is=20 just so talented as a music composer</FONT></DIV> </BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01BE2BB8.01F28380-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Beecher <T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk> Subject: (mobility) To all those in NY city.... Date: 21 Dec 1998 16:11:08 +0000 (GMT) Can anyone from New York give me some advice on places to go and things to do? You see I'm going with a few mates for a few days from the 14th Jan. What's CBGBs like these days? L, TMB. ---------------------- Tim Beecher Cranfield University T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: <bhoveyredfive@yahoo.com> Subject: (mobility) Yahoo! Mail Auto-Reply Date: 21 Dec 1998 08:13:02 -0800 (PST) hey im gone to the land of sun. But dont worry ill catch up when i come back. Besides i needed a recharge!!!!!!!! Peace Bri -------------------- Original Message: From owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com Mon Dec 21 16:13:02 1998 Return-Path: <owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com> Received: from lists.xmission.com (198.60.22.7) by mta103.yahoomail.com with SMTP; 21 Dec 1998 08:13:02 -0800 Received: from domo by lists.xmission.com with local (Exim 2.05 #1) id 0zs7vU-0006n4-00 for mobility-goout@lists.xmission.com; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 09:11:20 -0700 Received: from [138.250.48.9] (helo=euler.central.cranfield.ac.uk) by lists.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 0zs7vR-0006mt-00 for mobility@lists.xmission.com; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 09:11:18 -0700 Received: from [138.250.44.149] (helo=btnt007f.bio.cranfield.ac.uk) by euler.central.cranfield.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for mobility@lists.xmission.com id 0zs7vP-0006tM-00; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 16:11:15 +0000 In-Reply-To: <SIMEON.9812041802.F@btnt007f.ecs.pc.cranfield.ac.uk> Me _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson <techno_gpig@yahoo.com> Subject: (mobility) serious question for moby hardcores.... Date: 21 Dec 1998 11:58:24 -0800 (PST) guess what i just got for chanukah last night? go on, guess! i got........a lifetime sentence, er, membership to the international spice girls fan club!!!!!! not!!!!!! in reality,i got...... the blur double cd import, Bustin + Dronin! witha moby mix of beetlebum! yay!!! now heres the serious part. the mix on this cd is not listed as the "minimal house mix" i have heard a snippet of the mhm on the net, and it does not sound much like the mix on this cd. here is what the bustin n dronin mix is like. first it starts out with a drum loop (taken from the original song, not a drum machine or anything) and damon sayin "nothing is wrong, cuz she turns me on" and then after a while there are these sad strings that prove him otherwise. (maybe moby's trying to prove him wrong, considering his album title...god moby's a genius!) the sad strings build, and eventually the song shifts to damon saying "ooh-ah-ooh" or something, and there is more texture, and then an mc saying "wanna get wit it" (who kinda sounds like the guy who says "rhytm is the key as we open up the door" in hive's "ultrASonic sound"...) and the strings and synths buil some more. then the music stops and there is just the tape of sound effects and whatnot damon plays in the background at the end of the album version. (either moby has some cool filtering devices or damon actually gave him the tape. i doubt it tho.) for a while there is nothing but the effects. then there is the drum loop, and the efx, and the mc. then some more techno-ey efx. then a guitar loop from the song. then a loop of damon saying (hee hee) "make you come". then its back to the "nothing is wrong" part like in the beginning, with the strings. then theres the efx and strings and synths, etc. and for a minute or so, its just a long loop of damon saying "nothing is wrong" and nothing else. and its all slow, even slowerr then "times up". id say its a cross betwwen "times up" (for the slowness and the mc) and "shining" (for the strings) with a dash of blur samples. SO THE SERIOUS QUESTION IS:this isnt the "minimal house mix" is it? it does not at all sound "minimal house". minimal maybe, but definitely way too slow to be house. so does that mean that all you extreme hardcores out there will have to buy this one too? if so, music box has 4 copies left for like $15! and its a limited edition, numbered cd! as for me, ill have to get the import single for MOR. correct? as for the rest of the cds, its ok. not as good as i expected tho. therres a few mixes by william orbit (ok, but except for the last one, which is 15 minutes long, they werent that great. i thought he would make like a trance version, like some from the madonna cd, like "skin". btw, orbit's producing their next album.) plus theres some adrian sherwood dubs (also not as good as could be, but ok) and a n awesome by john mcentire (tortoise, stereolab, about a million other "post-rock" bands). his mix sounds nothing like the original, but it rocks anyway. it sounds a lot like stereolab, actually. and theres a mix of "essex dogs" by thurston moore of sonic youth. pretty good actually. i thought he was gonna add layers upon layers upon layers of gitar noizzzz, but instead he did just the opposite. he stripped down the track, focsuing on one element of the song at a time. for a while its the drum machie, then the vocals, then the vacuum sound effects, guitars, etc. its really good. its hard to tell which is more stripped down...moby's or thurston's mix. as for the live cd, its kinda weird, its only 15 minutes long, and their all short songs. but the version of "popscene" rocks, i like it better than the album version (that is, it appeared on the american issue of "modern life is rubbish"). the bad thing is not so much the cost, which is priced to move, but the liner notes are almost all in japanese and i cant read anything. and there is much more japanese than american writing, so i know im missing sumthin. hmmmmmmmmmmm. okay, bye!!!! == HOMER SIMPSON IS NOT A JEW, BUT GUESS WHO IS.... >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< HAPPY CHANUKAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Android M" <bionicrain@hotmail.com> Subject: (mobility) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 16:05:37 PST Date: 21 Dec 1998 17:06:42 -0700 it might be cooler if beastie boys & Moby got together and wrote some actual songs rather than some predictable remix b.s. 808 state could remix it (anybody remember the good old days...)I don't know about anyone else but I get tired of seeing the same old names on every re-mix project. or better yet, jello biafra (who I saw last year at a Zena Giva show) & moby. I mean, if he's (almost) in bed with G-n-R... late... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve418@u2fan.com Subject: Re: (mobility) serious question for moby hardcores.... Date: 22 Dec 1998 10:59:29 -0500 (EST) > spice girls fan club!!!!!! My friends gave me pnuemonia for Christmas. :( Thanks for the awesome breakdown on the mix! Can somebody out there with the MOR single give us the scoop on that one? My guess, Paul, would be that Moby turned in more than one mix for Blur, and they put one on the single, and one on the 2CD remix set. Moby ususally does that, so far as I can see. As for the Japanese writing, if there's a English section they're probably identical. I've got a Japanese U2 CD that has liner notes in both languages, and the Japanese section is bigger. AJ, isn't that you in Japan? What's the scoop on translations? I'm sick and delerious, but I saw some show on MTV with Matt Pinfield and he's mentioned Moby & James Bond Theme and showed a short clip of the vid. (first I've seen) I can't remember the context. Anybody? I forgot how bad daytime TV is. Happy Holidays to all, Steve Get free personalized email from Rolling Stone at http://email.rollingstone.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HOVEY <bhoveyredfive@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) To all those in NY city.... Date: 22 Dec 1998 08:33:43 -0800 (PST) Cb's is cool if you can find a good band there, but if not just good for history. First of all you must find a copy of the village voice. Its usually found at news stands, but if you have no luck there check at the virgin megga store on 42nd street across from MTV. That will give you all the club listings and going ons for the next two weeks. Also check out St. Marks place down in the village. Have a blast, and a great holiday. Peace Bri ---Tim Beecher <T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk> wrote: > > Can anyone from New York give me some advice on places to > go and things to do? You see I'm going with a few mates for > a few days from the 14th Jan. > > What's CBGBs like these days? > > L, > > TMB. > > ---------------------- > Tim Beecher > Cranfield University > T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Beecher <T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk> Subject: Re: (mobility) To all those in NY city.... Date: 22 Dec 1998 16:43:53 +0000 (GMT) Thanks for the info Bri. Much appreciated. Did you say you were off to Japan sopmetime or have I misunderstood? E-mail me on the wee minds if you want, if that's what it's still called!? Cheers and have a good one yourself, TMB On Tue, 22 Dec 1998 08:33:43 -0800 (PST) BRIAN HOVEY <bhoveyredfive@yahoo.com> wrote: > Cb's is cool if you can find a good band there, but if not just good > for history. First of all you must find a copy of the village voice. > Its usually found at news stands, but if you have no luck there check > at the virgin megga store on 42nd street across from MTV. That will > give you all the club listings and going ons for the next two weeks. > Also check out St. Marks place down in the village. Have a blast, and > a great holiday. > Peace > Bri > > > > > ---Tim Beecher <T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk> wrote: > > > > Can anyone from New York give me some advice on places to > > go and things to do? You see I'm going with a few mates for > > a few days from the 14th Jan. > > > > What's CBGBs like these days? > > > > L, > > > > TMB. > > > > ---------------------- > > Tim Beecher > > Cranfield University > > T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > ---------------------- Tim Beecher Cranfield University T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson <techno_gpig@yahoo.com> Subject: (mobility) flawed Date: 22 Dec 1998 13:31:49 -0800 (PST) i read about a website called flawed <http://www.flawed.com> in cmj a while ago its an online dictionary where you submit a word and you can create a page about it. i typed in "moby" and alas, alack, there is no paage devoted to the word "moby" so does anyone want to create a moby page for flawed? As well as any other cool words? it doesnt have to be just a word, it can be a name. there are pages devoted to names. first come first serve i guess! okay, umm....bye? == REMEMBER: If it doesn't say >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<, well, it just isnt Paul!!!!!!! _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kelbert" <bergstrom@globalserve.net> Subject: (mobility) voodoo child- end of everything Date: 24 Dec 1998 20:54:46 -0800 As I sit here in my room typing out some email, i'm listening to The End of Everything. Oh my gawd. I'm in love. Right from the beginning of Dog Heaven, I've had this feeling come over me, that EOE is going to be right up there with Everything is Wrong and Pretty Hate Machine as a CD that almost never leaves my CD player... hehe :) So my question to the list is, what are all YOUR cds that recieve heavy rotation in your personal stereo? Are any of them Moby related? Hmm? You gotta luv Christmas Eve traditions... In my family we watch National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation and then exchange a small gift. This year, I got the gift of Moby :) A little birdie told me that the EIW remix is waiting for me under the tree. I can't wait to hear that. Okay, I'm off to exchange presents with a few friends, and I think I'll have to bring EOE to listen to for the drive down there. hehehe... Happy Holidays everyone! -Kelly "I guess that nothing new lasts forever not even half that time Now I feel so sick cause all I ever wanted was you..." -PWEI ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michaela Gerstner <plovious@geocities.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) voodoo child- end of everything Date: 24 Dec 1998 20:29:50 -0700 Kelbert wrote: > > So my question to the list is, > what are all YOUR cds that recieve heavy rotation in your personal > stereo? Are any of them Moby related? Hmm? > hmm.. it depends on what mood i'm in. right now i'm in my soft rock, free rhyme verse stuff and am listening to ani difranco. so, her stuff is in heavy rotation right now. after her is moby, which i'm always in the mood for. <G> then i get in my pearl jam phase, and when i want to listen to heavier stuff i stick my nin in. and then every once and a while i stick really old cd's in that i haven't heard in a while and flash back to when i played them a lot. it's amazing how much my cd collection has grown. i first got a cd player in 6th grade for x-mas, a one disk one. the two cd's i got with that were pearl jam's ten and TLC (i was in a weird phase). that yr was funny because i had gotten the same TLC cd in the mail from my uncle and when we went to my dad's cousin's house for x-mas, i got the same pj cd. my dad had told them that i liked either one and didn't mention that they were getting both for me. so, i gave the TLC cd to a friend. i thanked my uncle for it and never mentioned that i already had it. my dad's cousin exchanged the cd for the singles soundtrack, which has pj on it. so, i started out with 3 cd's and am now close to 200. i don't have the TLC one anymore.. it became a frisbee. i still have the pj one, naturally, and the singles one. sorry.. just reminiscing. it's amazing what triggers memories. this was about 6 yrs ago, too. kelbert, you will be happy with the EIW remixed cd... i love it. plov ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: UHF@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) voodoo child- end of everything Date: 25 Dec 1998 00:57:38 EST In a message dated 12/24/98 7:46:42 PM Central Standard Time, bergstrom@globalserve.net writes: << So my question to the list is, what are all YOUR cds that recieve heavy rotation in your personal stereo? Are any of them Moby related? Hmm? >> right now, radiohead is in pretty good rotation along with space and garbage. of course mobys always thrown in here and there, especially ambient and EOE. my christmas eve, and my birthday, by the way, was spent watching b-movies with my cousins. merry christmas and any other holiday andrew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Colorez <colorez@execpc.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) voodoo child- end of everything Date: 25 Dec 1998 02:55:10 -0800 > So my question to the list is, > what are all YOUR cds that recieve heavy rotation in your personal > stereo? Are any of them Moby related? Hmm? Lets see, I keep playing the song "somebody" from Depeche Mode the Deep Forest albums Comparsa, and Boheme DMX's new album "flesh of my flesh, blood of my blood" Aphex Twin: selected ambient works volumes 1 & 2 As far as Moby goes, I've been playing EOE(mostly when I go to sleep),animal rights, and I play gmotfotw constantly. bye! -Anthony ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HOVEY <bhoveyredfive@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) voodoo child- end of everything Date: 25 Dec 1998 06:46:57 -0800 (PST) ---Anthony Colorez <colorez@execpc.com> wrote: > > > So my question to the list is, > > what are all YOUR cds that recieve heavy rotation in your personal > > stereo? Are any of them Moby related? Hmm? > >heavy rotation eh??? Well my cd collection contains over 400 so heavy rotation is a bit unheard of with me, so ill give you whats in there now. Fatboy Slim youve come a long way baby, Depeche Mode collective singles 123, and VAST. Well thats all for now, ill change them in two days. Peace Bri _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve418@u2fan.com Subject: (mobility) Heavy Rotation Date: 25 Dec 1998 12:21:49 -0500 (EST) Patient Love from End Of Everything is quite possibly my favorite Moby song. It would be either that or one of the Voodoo Child mixes with Slight Return in it. I was listening to the Expanded mix last night, which is absolutely gorgeous. Instinct has made some very poor re-release choices. Early Underground and Rare both lack the best 12" mixes. When I'm in my garage (the smoking room), where my turntables reside, I've been listening to the Discotheque 3x12", all 3 Voodoo Child 12"s, Voodoo Ray by A Guy Called Gerald, and Moby's Electro mix of Miserablism by the Pet Shop Boys, among numerous others. Upstairs, on CD, I've been listening to a big heap of U2 CDs, Instinct Dance, which I got yesterday, and the Permanent Midnight soundtrack. I can't get enough of the Gomez song on there. Merry Holiday Party Week, Steve Get free personalized email from Rolling Stone at http://email.rollingstone.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: UHF@aol.com Subject: (mobility) turntables(offtopic) Date: 25 Dec 1998 14:19:13 EST i was wondering if anyone here has the mc-505 here and if you like it or not and how much it cost. reply privately please. thanks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: UHF@aol.com Subject: (mobility) wrong header Date: 25 Dec 1998 14:30:39 EST sorry about the misleading header. i just got moby's early underground from my aunt and the only song i really enjoy is party time. i also got jr vasquez live 2cd which kicks ass if you like dj mixes. happy holidays ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Craig J. Rasmussen" <craigras@email.msn.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Date: 25 Dec 1998 21:28:41 -0600 +AD4- So my question to the list is, +AD4- what are all YOUR cds that recieve heavy rotation in your personal +AD4- stereo? Are any of them Moby related? Hmm? the cds that revolve around my cd player would be daft punk's homework, moby's dj mix of EIW, prodigy music for the jilted...., and a few other moby tracks like honey, etc. btw, I went to Virgin megastore yesterday, was looking through the singles section and happened to find lopez +ACI-why can't it stop?+ACI- single for 5.99+ACEAIQ- kevin craigras+AEA-msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clay <clayev2k@ixpres.com> Subject: (mobility) clay list this week Date: 25 Dec 1998 20:23:29 +0000 okay okay besides the wonderful music of the season this is what i 've been playing at work....... i work alone so no ONE is allowed to complain mozart...jupiter symphony madonna....drowned world remixes new radicals..... paul van dyk...... brahms.....hungarian dances brahms....requiem in love in paris...... sounds of italy...... patricia kaas....dans ma chair gil shahan....violin romances original flavor best of acid jazz volume 3 and more clay ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson <techno_gpig@yahoo.com> Subject: (mobility) stuph Date: 26 Dec 1998 09:10:57 -0800 (PST) heavy rotation? like meat beat manifesto albums, they change every track. (see the interview with jack d. in cmj october 98) i go thru some flashback phases evry now and then. like last night i was listenin to nirvana'ss "incesticide", which i think is there best cd besides nevermind and in utero. i dont know, i just like it a lot and its probly there most underrated cd. well, um, my heavy rotattion changes so much...probably orbital's "impact USA (the earth is burningg :diversion)" from _diversions_ is my heavy rotation now. i love that song, its one of my favorite orbital's right up there with "dwr budr", which my cousin is borrowing now, in exchange for the nu korn. theyre also heavy rotation now i guess. you know what? its all in the family... anyway, <hhttp://www.ab-cd.com> is an online version of an indy store in ct. i dont know if they have any moby, but they have every single stereolab release EVER, so ive heard, a 6000-7000 dollar investment. wow. so they must have some rare moby there. they sell lots of orb (paterson, not hartnoll) and spirituaized and portishead, etc. so there you go bye!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 == REMEMBER: If it doesn't say >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<, well, it just isnt Paul!!!!!!! _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Android M" <bionicrain@hotmail.com> Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #296 Date: 26 Dec 1998 14:37:35 PST hello list... >So my question to the list is, >what are all YOUR cds that receive heavy rotation in your personal >stereo? Are any of them Moby related? Hmm? ok, ok. so, I'm behind (I get the digest...) but you ask a good question. my first CD was G.B.H.'s 'leather, bristles, no survivors, & sick boys' circa 1987. I have a whole bunch of dance CD's that make me cringe to look at but you know the funny thing is Moby always remains. that's why I'm on this list. I guess a current listening phase of mine is as follows: -->Magenta compilation 'Balls to the Walls'-- japanese noise bands -->Moby 'Drop a Beat (deep mix)' 12" -->Chrome '3rd from the Sun' -- classic space metal (look for my artwork on Helios Creed's 'Dark Matter 2' release) -->Vangelis 'Blade Runner' & 'China' -->Vince Guaraldi 'Charlie Brown Christmas' -->Can 'Tago Mago' -->Man...or Astro-Man? 'Destroy all Astro-Men!' -->Mixmag Vol.2 'Sven Vath & Moby' -->Stereolab 'Mars Audiac Quintet' -->The Stranglers 'Greatest Hits' I'm one song away from Steve's favorite for 'EOE'. I like 'Gentle Love' It kinda sounds in between pure happiness & pure despair which makes for a powerful track. That's what I've listened to in the last 3 weeks. Thanks for reading... android >Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 12:21:49 -0500 (EST) >From: steve418@u2fan.com >Subject: (mobility) Heavy Rotation > >Patient Love from End Of Everything is quite possibly my favorite Moby song. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "4 Wilsons" <4wilsons@shaw.wave.ca> Subject: (mobility) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 19:26:29 -0500 Date: 26 Dec 1998 17:26:03 -0700 We all have those few cd's that we had when we were younger that when we get older are totally embarassed about... my cd collection has increased enormously in the last couple of years ever since i got a job and could afford them! Now my cd rack is full... Every so often when I clean my room one of those cds I used to listen to as a child comes up (that I can't believe I liked!), then I have to lose it again! I convinced my dad to purchase the William Shatner/Leonard Nimoy musical album for my mom for christmas.. It is hysterically funny cuz it's soo cheesy!!! However, there are always those christmas/channukah gifts that are really bad!!!.... however, there's always some charity or other who are quite happy to get them, so it's not a total loss. At a christmas gathering with my family my grandma added 1 1/2 shots of rum to her eggnog... and she can't hold any liquer well... she accidently poured some in my mom's coffee and disappeared for a large portion of the evening... *snicker* The turkey my aunt put in the oven was so big it looked like a human baby - which totally disturbed me... I dined on simulated meat!!! hmmm.. to make this moby related, did moby draw the picture of evil ninja moby, or was that someone else? Happy new years all!!! -Jennafur >it's amazing how much my cd collection has grown. i first got a cd player in 6th grade for x-mas, a one disk one. the two cd's i got with that were pearl jam's ten and TLC (i was in a weird phase). that yr was funny because i had gotten the same TLC cd in the mail from my uncle and when we went to my dad's cousin's house for x-mas, i got the same pj cd. my dad had told them that i liked either one and didn't mention that they were getting both for me. so, i gave the TLC cd to a friend. i thanked my uncle for it and never mentioned that i already had it. my dad's cousin exchanged the cd for the singles soundtrack, which has pj on it. so, i started out with 3 cd's and am now close to 200. i don't have the TLC one anymore.. it became a frisbee. i still have the pj one, naturally, and the singles one. sorry.. just reminiscing. it's amazing what triggers memories. this was about 6 yrs ago, too. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HOVEY <bhoveyredfive@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 19:26:29 -0500 Date: 26 Dec 1998 16:46:59 -0800 (PST) yes!!!!!!! Moby did draw the pic of evil nija moby, in fact every time that ive met him he has drawn me a pic on what ever i give to him to sign. Peace Bri ---4 Wilsons <4wilsons@shaw.wave.ca> wrote: > > We all have those few cd's that we had when we were younger that > when we get older are totally embarassed about... my cd > collection has increased enormously in the last couple of years ever > since i got a job and could afford them! Now my cd rack is full... > Every so often when I clean my room one of those cds I used to listen > to as a child comes up (that I can't believe I liked!), then I have to lose > it again! > > I convinced my dad to purchase the William Shatner/Leonard Nimoy > musical album for my mom for christmas.. It is hysterically funny cuz it's > soo cheesy!!! However, there are always those christmas/channukah gifts > that are really bad!!!.... however, there's always some charity or other > who > are quite happy to get them, so it's not a total loss. At a christmas > gathering > with my family my grandma added 1 1/2 shots of rum to her eggnog... and > she can't hold any liquer well... she accidently poured some in my mom's > coffee and disappeared for a large portion of the evening... *snicker* > The turkey my aunt put in the oven was so big it looked like a human > baby - which totally disturbed me... I dined on simulated meat!!! > > hmmm.. to make this moby related, did moby draw the picture of evil > ninja moby, or was that someone else? > > Happy new years all!!! > > -Jennafur > > > >it's amazing how much my cd collection has grown. i first got a cd > player in 6th grade for x-mas, a one disk one. the two cd's i got with > that were pearl jam's ten and TLC (i was in a weird phase). that yr was > funny because i had gotten the same TLC cd in the mail from my uncle and > when we went to my dad's cousin's house for x-mas, i got the same pj > cd. my dad had told them that i liked either one and didn't mention > that they were getting both for me. so, i gave the TLC cd to a friend. > i thanked my uncle for it and never mentioned that i already had it. my > dad's cousin exchanged the cd for the singles soundtrack, which has pj > on it. so, i started out with 3 cd's and am now close to 200. i don't > have the TLC one anymore.. it became a frisbee. i still have the pj > one, naturally, and the singles one. sorry.. just reminiscing. it's > amazing what triggers memories. this was about 6 yrs ago, too. > > > == "How can I save you, I cant even save myself, ....so just save yourself!!!" _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Bourke <cbourke1@bigred.unl.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) voodoo child- end of everything Date: 28 Dec 1998 13:47:16 -0600 (CST) > > So my question to the list is, > what are all YOUR cds that recieve heavy rotation in your personal > stereo? Are any of them Moby related? Hmm? > Actually, because of the volume of Moby CDs, no single one of them recieves heavy rotation, but out of all my moby CDs that I have, the one I listen to most is AR. Dunno why so many people vilify it, I think it is his best one. As for overall heavy rotation, Portishead and Nirvana and Bjork rarely leave my car, and since I got it this christmas, the Beastie Boys haven't left my home stereo! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Raiswell <jraiswel@chat.carleton.ca> Subject: (mobility) Studio? Date: 28 Dec 1998 15:39:09 EST I was wondering where Moby's studio is. It's in New York, right? Any idea where? Thanks in advance, - James -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= James Raiswell Journalism IV -- Carleton University email: jraiswel@chat.carleton.ca "It's Ed-u-ca-tion-al" =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: michael.demattei@milliman.com Subject: (mobility) Heavy Rotation Date: 29 Dec 1998 9:33:10 -0800 > So my question to the list is, > what are all YOUR cds that recieve heavy rotation in your personal > stereo? Are any of them Moby related? Hmm? Here's what's happening this week/day/minute (it changes too friggin' often): Stranglers - all stuff from the UA years Buzzcocks - anything Ultravox - HA!HA!HA! & Systems of Romance Francoise Hardy - early stuff System of a Down - S/T Saint Etienne - Good Humor Gotta admit, Moby's on the backburner at the moment=2E Deemo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Bourke <cbourke1@bigred.unl.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) To all those in NY city.... Date: 30 Dec 1998 01:08:57 -0600 (CST) On Mon, 21 Dec 1998, Tim Beecher wrote: > Can anyone from New York give me some advice on places to > go and things to do? You see I'm going with a few mates for > a few days from the 14th Jan. > > What's CBGBs like these days? > no ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Bourke <cbourke1@bigred.unl.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) Studio? Date: 30 Dec 1998 01:09:41 -0600 (CST) On Mon, 28 Dec 1998, James Raiswell wrote: > I was wondering where Moby's studio is. It's in New York, right? Any idea > where? I don't know ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clay <clayev2k@ixpres.com> Subject: (mobility) just say no Date: 30 Dec 1998 08:02:04 +0000 can someone filter mr.bourke.......please....... and get me a nuzzle.....?!!!!!!!! oh by the way playlist terry francis: arcitechture swayzack: snowboarding in argentina monkey mafia: beginning to see the light moby: end of everything andrea bocelli: romanza renaissance: worldwiide singapore new radicals anne sophie-mutter: face to face with beethoven really hoping everyone on the list is gonna have a great new year> 98 was a big one in so many ways and don't ya just get that feel in that 99 is gon be jus SOOOOOOOoooooooooo mmMMMUUUCHHHHHHHH biiGGGGEEERRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??!!!!! looking forward clay ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve418@u2fan.com Subject: Re: (mobility) just say hell no Date: 30 Dec 1998 16:53:18 -0500 (EST) clay composed: > that 99 is gon be jus SOOOOOOOoooooooooo mmMMMUUUCHHHHHHHH > biiGGGGEEERRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??!!!!! > looking forward Yeah, we got political strife, looming international conflicts, the milleneum parties, possible Armageddon, Moby's new album, perhaps contact with an alien species, media-led widespread insanity, and more of Mr. Bourke being nasty. Me being a windbag, too. The solution to all of the world's problems is, quite simply, turn up the music louder. (insert sanctimonious "don't trivialize amphibian rights with jokes" response here) Yeah, yeah, whatever. Relax, booze up, eat some cookies, whatever, and have a Happy New Year. Play some older Moby bootyshakers and ppaarrttyyyyy. -some dude Get free personalized email from Rolling Stone at http://email.rollingstone.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Bourke <cbourke1@bigred.unl.edu> Subject: (mobility) NBC Trailer Date: 30 Dec 1998 17:31:00 -0600 (CST) > Yeah, we got political strife, looming international conflicts, the milleneum parties, possible Armageddon, Moby's new album, perhaps contact with an alien species, media-led widespread insanity, >and more of Mr. Bourke being nasty. Me being a windbag, too. ? How was I "nasty," I meant my response to be "funny," a comical comment intended to elicite a joyous response... I thought it was at least kitsch if not funny Anyway, I was watching some cable channel and NBC was advertising the network premeire fo the movie Heat, and who's track from the movie they chose to put on the commercial? Moby!~ I forgot the name of the track, but I'm sure many people know already, it's on ILTS i believe. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bill tatalovich <wt3@cec.wustl.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) NBC Trailer Date: 30 Dec 1998 18:31:31 -0600 (CST) On Wed, 30 Dec 1998, Chris Bourke wrote: > Anyway, I was watching some cable channel and NBC was advertising the > network premeire fo the movie Heat, and who's track from the movie > they chose to put on the commercial? Moby!~ I forgot the name of the > track, but I'm sure many people know already, it's on ILTS i believe. Yep, I saw it too. The track used in the trailer is "God Moving Over the Face of the Water", which is included (along with his cover of "New Dawn Fades") on the Heat Soundtrack. Good soundtrack overall, actually. Bill Tatalovich wt3@cec.wustl.edu