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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal Rights 2!
Date: 01 Feb 1998 00:53:52 EST

i was only stating what Moby said...i could care less

tripp



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From: theShackofXaq <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Opus III
Date: 01 Feb 1998 02:02:58 -0600 (CST)

On Sat, 31 Jan 1998, Ryu wrote:
> >Did anyone know about Moby's remix of Opus III's "I Talk To The Wind"?
>
> what is this on?  and what has opus III been up to lately?

i head that the singer is doing something new, but i don't know the name
or when it's comming out...hmm...not much help i guess...
-xaq-
"People have power not only depending on how much they know, but also what
they are prepared to find out!" alec empire




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From: Damian <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal Rights 2!
Date: 01 Feb 1998 04:42:59 -0700

Mark Reed wrote:
>
> "Open Up" by Leftfield Lydon was relaesed in nov 93. Moby did remix a
> Lydon solo track "Grave Ride" but it was only on a 12" vinyl in the UK..

"Grave Ride" w/the Moby remix is also on John Lydon's album (both US &
UK and I don't recommend buying it).  I have a wave sample on a page of
mine - I should replace it with a Real Audio sample but I'm too lazy.

> Does anybody know where I can get hold of Moby's early singles..

I always recommend Mute at http://www.mutelibtech.com/mute/bank/bank.htm
- they're a bit casual at things but they're dependable and the prices
are good.  However, they won't have the early stuff from Instinct
records.

--
mailto:[e-mail]
http://www.xmission.com/~damian/new-moby.html#Audio




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From: Daniel Lee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal Rights 2!
Date: 01 Feb 1998 04:50:28 -0800



Damian wrote:

> "Grave Ride" w/the Moby remix is also on John Lydon's album (both US &
> UK and I don't recommend buying it).

Hey, man, don't knock John Lydon's "Psycho's Path" CD. It's a great album!
The fact that it features a remix by Moby is an added bonus (and it was
actually the reason I bought the CD in the first place), but the entire album
is awesome!

You just haven't lived until you've experienced the song "Sun" at high volume
on headphones.

Don't be dissin' Johnny Rotten!

Dan




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From: "Sean Boland" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal Rights 2!
Date: 01 Feb 1998 09:43:16 PST


    i hope so, i like animal rights, but i like more of his electronic
wonders better.

hifi1

______________________________________________________
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From: "Brad Caviness" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) "Writing about music is like dancing about architecture."
Date: 01 Feb 1998 14:52:37 -0600

I know it's going to happen everytime some one posts a review or interview
from the web or a magazine. A music journalist is going to get bashed. He
doesn't get it. He's clueless. He has no idea what he's talking about. He's
got all the facts wrong.

As some one who makes a good part of his living off writing about musicians
and their work, I've learned to develop a pretty thick skin and I've gotten
used to people disagreeing with me. But most music journalists I know are
much more savy than readers give them credit for. Critics have to stay on
top of new artists, new genres, and know how it all fits into pop music
continuity (forgive me if I kind of cringe in using the word "history" to
describe pop music). For all the ambiguity you accuse us of, It might help
you to know that most editors are more interested in their writers
describing what a record *sounds* like in a review rather than simply saying
how good they thought it was. Our job is to help our readers make an
informed decision about new music rather than recommendations.

Every fan wants a reviewer to say their favorite artist's newest is the best
thing since Sgt. Peppers or Pet Sounds. But the reviewer is not writing for
the fan. He's writing for the person who's never heard of that musician, or
is looking for something new.

I have to say, I agree with the writer when he says "Go" is seminal, and I
don't think he stole it from the Elektra press release. I know for me It was
the first thing from Moby I heard, and it is one of his most enduring works.
Early success + timeless appeal = seminal in my book.

Now, I just re-read this message, and it is much angrier sounding than I
meant it to be. I don't want to upset anyone. I just want to make a point.
Maybe you expect too much from critics and music journalists.

Don't hate me because I'm a writer,

Brad S. Caviness, Ricochet Bigwig
Ricochet Internet Music Magazine (http://www.ricochetmusic.com)
[e-mail]

"I am a cipher wrapped in an enigma smothered in a secret sauce."
 -- Jimmy James, "News Radio"

"The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming."
 -- Moby, musician.





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From: Ben Patterson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Lopez find
Date: 01 Feb 1998 17:45:55 -0600

Just thought I'd let the list know about my find, Moby as Lopez; Why Can't
it Stop is the title, just three songs, but vwery good as i listen to it
right now. I'm sure this has been mentioned before, but does anyone else
have this?
                    \|||/
                    (o o)
                -----oo0-(_)-0oo-----

Ben Patterson
Northwestern University
[e-mail]





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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) moby in SF?/blur remix
Date: 01 Feb 1998 18:34:26 EST

hey everyone,

i don't have very reliable access to the web, so i was wondering if there were
any more concert dates for moby, specif. in the san francisco/ bay area?  i
figure if he's playing in san diego on the 6th, he might be doing other dates
around the area....

also, for those who have heard it, what do you think of moby's remix of blur's
"beetlebum"? (it's the minimal house mix, on the M.O.R. single).  blur are
planning a remix compilation for sale in japan only, of w/c moby may or may
not be involved.

Rob



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Moby - Lydon colab
Date: 01 Feb 1998 22:32:56 EST

Right on Dan!  You are da Man.  Check out Johnny Lydon's Psycho's Path.  From
the Sex Pistols to Moby.  Now there's personal growth.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) compilation cd
Date: 01 Feb 1998 21:43:53 -0600 (CST)

this is one of your final notices!

you must have all orders for the compilaition cd postmarked by february 3 in
order for them to be filled!

for any and all info, please mail me:  [e-mail]

andy

gingerbread man

"run, run, as fast as you can,
    you can't catch me, I'm the gingerbread man!"



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From: Daniel Lee <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Moby on senseless soundtrack
Date: 01 Feb 1998 23:43:30 -0800

Moby is on the soundtrack to "Sensless" the new movie with David Spade.

Dan




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From: Keith Forsythe <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal Rights 2!
Date: 02 Feb 1998 10:04:12 -0600

Thank god
At 05:34 PM 1/31/98 EST, you wrote:
>MOBY has said he's began work on a new album and so far he doesn't have any
>guitars on it.
>
>dj tripp
>
>
>
Keith Forsythe
[e-mail]
[e-mail]



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From: "Ciccone, Nancy J." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal Rights 2!
Date: 02 Feb 1998 11:52:00 -0500

To each his own, but that's kinda closed minded isn't it?
I think it just goes to show the extent of Moby's talents - he has a
vast knowledge of all kinds of music and is extremely amazing at all his
endeavors.  There aren't very many artists at all who are so well
rounded like that.  It's easy to excel in one concentrated aspect of
music, Moby excels in many.
 ----------

Thank god
At 05:34 PM 1/31/98 EST, you wrote:
>MOBY has said he's began work on a new album and so far he doesn't have
any
>guitars on it.
>
>dj tripp
>
>
>
Keith Forsythe
[e-mail]
[e-mail]



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From: Keith Forsythe <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal Rights 2!
Date: 02 Feb 1998 11:20:57 -0600

Yah, I know.  I just didn't have the time to say what I wanted, and that
sort of summed it up.  Moby is great and I am really glad that he has
creativity and the guts(I'm sure his record company wasn't too happy) to
put something like that out.  I think if I were in his shoes (gym), I would
too.  I play guitar as well as keyboards and listen and write both punk and
electronic.  So I'm glad it made him happy to do it, but I'd prefer he
stick to keys rather than strings.  He doesn the elec thing better.
At 11:52 AM 2/2/98 -0500, you wrote:
>To each his own, but that's kinda closed minded isn't it?
>I think it just goes to show the extent of Moby's talents - he has a
>vast knowledge of all kinds of music and is extremely amazing at all his
>endeavors.  There aren't very many artists at all who are so well
>rounded like that.  It's easy to excel in one concentrated aspect of
>music, Moby excels in many.
> ----------
>From: Keith Forsythe
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal Rights 2!
>Date: Monday, February 02, 1998 11:04AM
>
>Thank god
>At 05:34 PM 1/31/98 EST, you wrote:
>>MOBY has said he's began work on a new album and so far he doesn't have
>any
>>guitars on it.
>>
>>dj tripp
>>
>>
>>
>Keith Forsythe
>[e-mail]
>[e-mail]
>
>
>
Keith Forsythe
[e-mail]
[e-mail]



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From: "Rekkit" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby - Lydon colab
Date: 02 Feb 1998 12:44:32 -0800

>Right on Dan!  You are da Man.  Check out Johnny Lydon's Psycho's Path.
From
>the Sex Pistols to Moby.  Now there's personal growth.


Unfortunately it's been an implosive growth.  Lydon had no credibility when
he was with the Pistols and he has even less now.  He's an absolute ass and
working with the likes of  Danny Saber, Moby, Leftfield & The Chems does
nothing but expose him for the has-been he never should have had the
opportunity to be.
<whew>

Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page:
http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm





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From: Ryu <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal Rights 2!
Date: 02 Feb 1998 15:00:04 -0500

just to add my two cents,,,
i really like "animal rights", am rather disappointed to hear
that moby's next one is non-guitar so far.  he didn't mention
lyrics in any of the recent interviews, and i really hope that just
because he's not playing the guitar for it, that he will sing
on some of the tracks.
while i dont' always understand what he is saying, i like the
way he says it.
maybe he'll do a voodoo child companion album to this one and
have that be thrash guitar!

love,
ryu

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 My name is Ryu.  I make hard emotional
 electronic music.  To hear some, get cds,
   and see stuff, go to my homepage at:
http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 Ryu  |  [e-mail]  |  814-867-0756
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++




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From: "William Turner Spencer Iii" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) moby reactor
Date: 02 Feb 1998 15:13:00 -0500

I think Moby and Juno Reactor should team up to make an album--juno does the
electronics, and moby does the guitar and lyrics.  That would be a great
combination.  Sort of like the tour they've been going on.  It'd kick ass.

Bill "dreamANALYZER"



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From: Marjorana Karathanasis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby reactor
Date: 02 Feb 1998 15:59:52 -0500 (EST)

Right on. I saw a show in that tour--together they produce phenomenal
energy.

Rocked,
out of my boat

 On Mon, 2 Feb 1998, William Turner Spencer Iii wrote:

> I think Moby and Juno Reactor should team up to make an album--juno does the
> electronics, and moby does the guitar and lyrics.  That would be a great
> combination.  Sort of like the tour they've been going on.  It'd kick ass.
>
> Bill "dreamANALYZER"
>




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From: Marjorana Karathanasis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby reactor
Date: 02 Feb 1998 15:59:52 -0500 (EST)

Right on. I saw a show in that tour--together they produce phenomenal
energy.

Rocked,
out of my boat

 On Mon, 2 Feb 1998, William Turner Spencer Iii wrote:

> I think Moby and Juno Reactor should team up to make an album--juno does the
> electronics, and moby does the guitar and lyrics.  That would be a great
> combination.  Sort of like the tour they've been going on.  It'd kick ass.
>
> Bill "dreamANALYZER"
>




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From: [e-mail]
Date: 02 Feb 1998 16:48:30 -0700

> http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/fotos.htm
>
> check them out!
Hey, they look great!!! I almost can hear the sound!! :)

Jonathan.

--
  512/781AF549 1997/11/26 Jonathan Ruano (low-sec) <[e-mail]>
      Key fingerprint = 7A 87 8E 82 50 82 1D 19  CD BE 3E 20 FA 80 6F 8F
           For more bits, browse http://www.encomix.es/users/jonah/





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From: "Rekkit" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Obscure Moby Pic
Date: 02 Feb 1998 22:26:24 -0800

It was certainly a bit disturbing and I didn't know that Moby was capable
aging 30 years in one picture, but here goes anyway ;)
http://niels.com/display.asp?image=moby01

Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page:
http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm





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From: but not _the_ frankz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) "Writing about music is like dancing about
Date: 02 Feb 1998 21:20:12 -0700

At 02:52 PM 2/1/98 -0600, you wrote:
>I know it's going to happen everytime some one posts a review or interview
>from the web or a magazine. A music journalist is going to get bashed.

>Our job is to help our readers make an
>informed decision about new music rather than recommendations.
>
>Every fan wants a reviewer to say their favorite artist's newest is the best
>thing since Sgt. Peppers     <--Huhn?
 or Pet Sounds.                     <-- Who?
>But the reviewer is not writing for
>the fan.

>He's writing for the person who's never heard of that musician, or
>is looking for something new.
(than he has to be a musician: see subject-line)

>I have to say, I agree with the writer when he says "Go" is seminal, and I
>don't think he stole it from the Elektra press release. I know for me It was
>the first thing from Moby I heard, and it is one of his most enduring works.
>Early success + timeless appeal = seminal in my book.

I have my doubts about this word 'seminal'.
In my dictionary it is either 'sperm', which i doubt is meant here,
or it means 'still growing, not yet finished' .... "origine, creation"
(Webster'sNew Collegiate); 'In Potence' i guess...

Well if that is meant, it's not a very precise descripton of GO, because you
could say this of almost every Moby creation, See all the Into the Blue
releases...
(3) It can also mean 'rudimentary', which is stopped in it's development,
but potentially there' - like the male breasts...

So it is not a good word to describe 'Go' as a song....
(maybe 'orgasm' would be something? but how to get that published?) (i
forgot what ryu said, he said something about this ...?)

>Now, I just re-read this message, and it is much angrier sounding than I
>meant it to be. I don't want to upset anyone. I just want to make a point.
>Maybe you expect too much from critics and music journalists.
(this is very very true, we expect them to be fans)

>Don't hate me because I'm a writer,

>Brad S. Caviness, Ricochet Bigwig

No WAY we hate you man,
finally you Spoke Up...
I love you for that!
And for being such a BIG Moby fan...
Send me some reviews (really I mean it!)

Keep up the good work,

Kees,
seminal editor

n.b. Great! Terrific Subject-Line!


----------------------
   "Watch him while he's eating,
      what is he doing?
      ...what is he doing, while he's eating?"


http://home.wxs.nl/~til00003/




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From: but not _the_ frankz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Lopez find
Date: 02 Feb 1998 21:20:26 -0700

At 05:45 PM 2/1/98 -0600, you wrote:
>Just thought I'd let the list know about my find, Moby as Lopez; Why Can't
>it Stop is the title, just three songs, but vwery good as i listen to it
>right now. I'm sure this has been mentioned before, but does anyone else
>have this?
>                    \|||/
>                    (o o)
>                -----oo0-(_)-0oo-----
>
>Ben Patterson

Awesome,
i play it at least twice a week now for three months!


----------------------
   "Watch him while he's eating,
      what is he doing?
      ...what is he doing, while he's eating?"


http://home.wxs.nl/~til00003/




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) COMPILATION
Date: 03 Feb 1998 00:09:35 -0600 (CST)

L A S T   D A Y   T O   G E T   Y O U R   C O M P I L A T I O N   O R D E R
                        I N   T H E   M A I L ! ! !

today, february 3, is the last day you can have your mail postmarked by in
order to get a mobility list compilation cd.  if there are extenuating
circumstances, mail me and i will see...most likely there will be no
exceptions.  i also might have some cds left over once all orders are filled.
i will determine at a later date what to do with those if and when that
happens.

thanks again to everyone for their patience, support, understanding, help,
suggestions, music, art, cash, checks, and whatnot.  please continue to be
patient with me as i try to get these last orders out as soon as i can!

andy

gingerbread man

"run, run, as fast as you can,
    you can't catch me, I'm the gingerbread man!"



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From: "Ben Chim" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #75
Date: 03 Feb 1998 01:26:40 +0000

> Date:          Fri, 30 Jan 1998 20:22:35 -0600
> To:            [e-mail]
> From:          John Turpin <[e-mail]>
> Subject:       (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #75
> Reply-to:      [e-mail]

> >BTW2, I just thought of something funny (Orb fans will get it,
> >at least).  Wouldn't it be nice if Moby were remixed by the Orb?
> >If they collaborated, the release could be called "Morby"! =-)
>
> You know, I've always thought one of the more mellow tracks on _Early
> Underground_ (can't remember which one now) sounded like one of the Orb's
> more upbeat tracks, minus the wacked-out samples...
>
> --
>     C        The C.O.D.         John Turpin
>     |                <jct1@
>    / \                Ra.MsState.Edu>
>   O   D    <http://www2.msstate.edu/~jct1/cod/>
>
>
>
the Orb is not wack :(

Ben



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From: [e-mail]
Date: 03 Feb 1998 01:23:05 -0700

this info to you about the source of the sample from "bring back my happiness":

So I buy these 2 CDs the other day, titled Super Rare Disco Vol. 1 & 2. Put
on Vol. 1, and third song in ("Touch & Go," by the excellently named
Ecstasy, Passion and Pain featuring Barbara Roy) I hear this very familiar
shout. I double-take, look up and rewind the CD. Nope, I was right. A very
familiar female voice screaming:


  "IT'S HARD TO LET YOU GOOO!!!!"

My friend, I have found the source of Moby's "Bring Back My Happiness"
sample. And it just came out a few months ago. Please post this on the Moby
board.

Michaelangelo Matos
(also at: [e-mail])
*     *     *
[e-mail]







++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 My name is Ryu.  I make hard emotional
 electronic music.  To hear some, get cds,
   and see stuff, go to my homepage at:
http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 Ryu  |  [e-mail]  |  814-867-0756
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++






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From: [e-mail]
Date: 03 Feb 1998 02:39:40 -0700

>at least).  Wouldn't it be nice if Moby were remixed by the Orb?
>If they collaborated, the release could be called "Morby"! =-)

You know, I've always thought one of the more mellow tracks on _Early
Underground_ (can't remember which one now) sounded like one of the Orb's
more upbeat tracks, minus the wacked-out samples...

--
    C        The C.O.D.         John Turpin
    |                <jct1@
   / \                Ra.MsState.Edu>
  O   D    <http://www2.msstate.edu/~jct1/cod/>







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From: [e-mail]
Date: 03 Feb 1998 03:12:26 -0700

>  > It is indeed *the* Moby. Playing in San Diego....How stoked am I?
>

Could somebody please give me some information on this show?  Is it going to
be 21 and up like it was last time he was in town?  Any help would be
wonderful.

Thanks
Kathryn





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From: CRAIG GOLDBERG <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) cm
Date: 03 Feb 1998 22:28:27 -0500

Greetings,

This is an aside, but I know that the Crystal Method will be playing in
Norwalk, CT at the end of the month.
Does anyone know if there are any planned New York City Dates?
Please respond to my personal email if possible, as I am subscribed to
the Mobility Digest.
Thanks,
-CDG




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Hymn single
Date: 03 Feb 1998 14:01:17 -0500 (EST)

In my quest to build a Moby CD library - I find myself in posession of 2 of the same disk... I have an extra Hymn (This Is My Dream) single if anyone is interested... just let me know (email me - not the list) - and we'll talk...

Take care one and all!

Q: If you could be any animal, what kind would you be?
A: You already are an animal.

(D. Coupland, Microserfs)
Get free personalized email at http://www.lycosemail.com



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Jewish?
Date: 03 Feb 1998 14:32:06 EST

hi craig, r u related to any goldbrgs in NYC? are u jewish? we might be the
only jews onthe list!



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) COMPILATION
Date: 03 Feb 1998 14:30:53 EST

hey, i think i want one, but whats on it
?????//



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From: Marjorana Karathanasis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) COMPILATION
Date: 03 Feb 1998 14:41:54 -0500 (EST)

I want one--what do I have to do?

--marjie




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From: Rob Skipworth <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Hymn single
Date: 03 Feb 1998 14:04:42 -0600

I am very interested in the cd...
 let me know what you want for the cd and shipping

rob skipworth


[e-mail] wrote:

> In my quest to build a Moby CD library - I find myself in posession of 2 of the same disk... I have an extra Hymn (This Is My Dream) single if anyone is interested... just let me know (email me - not the list) - and we'll talk...
>
> Take care one and all!
>
> Q: If you could be any animal, what kind would you be?
> A: You already are an animal.
>
> (D. Coupland, Microserfs)
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Get free personalized email at http://www.lycosemail.com






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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) COMPILATION
Date: 03 Feb 1998 14:35:23 -0600 (CST)

the compilation cd consists of remixes, covers, and dj mixes of moby songs all
done by list members.  it was produced and distributed by list members as well.
here is a track listing and the needed info to order, although, your order
needs to be postmarked by today in order for you to get a cd (deadline is
today):

unloved symphony
move
emptiness
EYTM
choose your jesus
go
james bond theme
god moving...
hymn

" T H A N K S "   O R D E R I N G   I N F O . . .


Thank you for your interest and support!

Send your e-mail address, postal mailing address, and
$10 (US) to:

Andrew Davies (Mobility)
1 University Plaza
105 Porter Hall
Platteville, WI 53818


I know it is a little weird to send cash in the mail,
so you could send a check, too, if you want.  Sorry
that the price is a bit more than originally quoted,
but I neglected to add in the CD insert's copies to
the estimate.  The $10 you are sending will be used
only for buying the CD, color copies of the inserts,
and shipping and handling.

"Thanks" again!

andy

gingerbread man

"run, run, as fast as you can,
    you can't catch me, i'm the gingerbread man!"

p.s.  remember, if your order is not postmarked feb 3 or sooner, it will be
returned to you!



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From: "Jason Robinson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) DAVIESA ... money's in the mail
Date: 03 Feb 1998 21:17:12 GMT



ALLO ? ?

Ok. the moby Cd . When will I get it?



Thanks
The Finn

______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Jewish?
Date: 03 Feb 1998 16:55:30 EST

This has nothing to do with Moby, but I just wanted to add that I, too, am
Jewish. :) Funny that the first response I have ever made on this list is
about being Jewish...

   *Sarah*



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From: but not _the_ frankz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal Rights 2!
Date: 03 Feb 1998 21:40:49 -0700

At 03:00 PM 2/2/98 -0500, you wrote:
>just to add my two cents,,,
>
>maybe he'll do a voodoo child companion album to this one and
>have that be thrash guitar!
>
>love,
>ryu

He said in an interview (published on this List)
that he would do a seperate album with guitar(s)
under a different NAME, (september `98)
but (ryu?) why would it be Voodoo Child?

- - -

p.s.
Is there anyone out there who can copy dj spooky's machine gun-mix?
(i heard it yesterday for the first, i thought i was dreaming...!)


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From: Ryu <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal Rights 2!
Date: 04 Feb 1998 00:00:02 -0500

>He said in an interview (published on this List)
>that he would do a seperate album with guitar(s)
>under a different NAME, (september `98)
>but (ryu?) why would it be Voodoo Child?

i guess it doesn't have to be...just that last time he did
big guitars as moby, and small electronics as voodoo child.
so why not just swap?

love,                personally, i'd like to see some more
ryu                 trophy singles....sorenti anyone?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 My name is Ryu.  I make hard emotional
 electronic music.  To hear some, get cds,
   and see stuff, go to my homepage at:
http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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From: but not _the_ frankz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) COMPILATION
Date: 04 Feb 1998 04:24:29 -0700

At 02:35 PM 2/3/98 -0600, you wrote:
>
>I know it is a little weird to send cash in the mail,
>so you could send a check, too, if you want.  Sorry
>that the price is a bit more than originally quoted,
>but I neglected to add in the CD insert's copies to
>the estimate.  The $10 you are sending will be used
>only for buying the CD, color copies of the inserts,
>and shipping and handling.
>
>"Thanks" again!
>
>andy
>
>gingerbread man

Andy!
Why don't you give this 'work' to CDNOW?
Just give it to'm,
they are invented for it...!

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From: but not _the_ frankz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) COMPILATION
Date: 04 Feb 1998 04:24:25 -0700

At 02:30 PM 2/3/98 EST, you wrote:
>hey, i think i want one, but whats on it
>?????//

Lucky YOU-you... i'm just playing (with) it...
it's RYU freaking a beast,,, you might think it's Moby freaking ryu, but it
ain't    (1)
it's Ethan Griffin, freakin' Movin' Move (where did he Move?)   (2)
it's Chrysallis totally Empty   (3)
it's Andy Gingerbread if you CAN CAN...it feels like i need some more,   (4)
it's Daryllllll my ONLY Jesus 5:01
       (Jimmy Swaggert on vocals)
it's Go adrenaline mix by E            [6]
it's (7) James Bond Thm pfmd by andrew davies "thanks"
it's HIMSELF moving over the waters....as if you were there!      (eight)

(9) is absurd, i want to WARN you all for Number 9, not only one of the best
songs of the Beatles,
but surely the BEST song of this CD: THANKS,
today is the third of february, by the way...

thanks,

(for bandwidth)

kees


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From: but not _the_ frankz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) COMPILATION
Date: 04 Feb 1998 04:24:26 -0700

At 02:41 PM 2/3/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I want one--what do I have to do?
>
>--marjie

you make the gingerbreadman happy & hyper
TODAY!


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From: but not _the_ frankz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Jewish?
Date: 04 Feb 1998 04:24:25 -0700

At 02:32 PM 2/3/98 EST, you wrote:
>hi craig, r u related to any goldbrgs in NYC? are u jewish? we might be the
>only jews onthe list!

cg has a digest subscription, he said:
"mail me off-topic"

but this, does this mean you don-wonna tok to us 'normals'?
(don't ye think Clinton is a little bit fucked-up by the israeleans?)

mail off-list



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) comp
Date: 04 Feb 1998 09:14:51 -0600 (CST)

Andy!
Why don't you give this 'work' to CDNOW?
Just give it to'm,
they are invented for it...!

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the original cocept of the compilation is that it would be very rare and only
for list members.  i had been asked by 2 record label about ordering it, one
wanted to know wholesale prices!  i also had no copyrights on these, and i
didn't want to take any chances on legal action from elektra, instinct, mute,
trophy, or anyone else.

andy




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From: "jason(INRI)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal Rights 2!
Date: 04 Feb 1998 12:34:13 -0500


-----Original Message-----


>>He said in an interview (published on this List)
>>that he would do a seperate album with guitar(s)
>>under a different NAME, (september `98)
>>but (ryu?) why would it be Voodoo Child?


my guess is that voodoo child is a jimi hendrix song.....




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From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) ME!!!!!
Date: 04 Feb 1998 14:52:27 -0800 (PST)





Hey peeps!!!
I'm new to the list and I just wanted to let everyone know who I am.
My name is Paul Simpson, I'm 14, I live in Hamden Connecticut, and
(obviously) I'm a huge Moby fan.
I started listening to Moby about a year ago. The first Moby song I
heard was That's When.. on my local "modern rock" station. Then I
heard his song on Schoolhouse Rock. Then Iheard some of his techno
stuff. Over the last year I've really been getting into techno music,
so I've been listeing to Moby a LOT lately.
Last summer, I found a tape at the Goodwill store that was marked
"Moby:Everything Is Wrong" and I had heard great reviews for it so I
bought it. I was totally amazed when I listened to it. As an added
bonus, whoever dubbed the tape stuck the first 10 songs from Early
Underground on side 2, so that was my intro. to early moby.
I bought ILTS the week it came out, and I just bought Rare/Go a few
weeks ago. I think it's tha bomb. I guess you could say I'm a convert
Moby hardcore or something.
I unfortunately missed his date in New Haven at Toad's recently :( Me
and my bud Spaz wanted to go, but we didn't have $ or a ride. (Blahh)
My fave moby songs are UHF (aka UHF3) Voodoo Child, God Moving...,
Next Is the E (Club Mix), Thousand, and the Analog and Original mixes
of GO. It's hard to pick faves b-cuz all Moby I've heard is great.
My other fave groups are Chembros (my fave, even though they don't
have 1/2 Moby's talent) Orbital, Aphex, Blur, Nirvana, Prodigy, lots
of other techno groups, Liz Phair, Cornershop, Goldie, some rap groups
(Fugees, KRS1, De La Soul, Tribe, Wu-Tang), old 311, old Foo Fighters,
Fatboy Slim, some Sublime, Melissa Etheridge, Bush, some No Doubt,
classical, jazz, blues, folk, world music, I could go on
for years...
What I DON'T Like is:
Country, Spice Girls, Hanson, Oasis, Puff Daddy, other crappy losers
like them.
My favorite animals are guinea pigs (EEEEEEEEEP!!!)
I have 4 of them in my house (mine's name is Buddy he's an albino,
he's cute, he squeals a lot, EEEEEEEEEEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
My fave tv shows:The Simpson's (duh, it's my last name)
South Park(except the Xmas one), AMP(except they never play Moby :(
and lots of shows on MTV, and M2(they do play Moby :o)
I have a homepage:
<http://freezone.com/homes/c/Chembrodude/musicofthemonth.html>
you can vote for fave bands, CDs, etc. Bookmark it I update
frequently...
My email is <[e-mail]>
I am Paul
Bye yall
>>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<<
"If you lived here, you'd be home right now!!!"
_________________________________________________________
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From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) mo' me
Date: 04 Feb 1998 14:57:34 -0800 (PST)



Oh yeah...
Yahoo has a trnscript of a Moby chat...do a search on Moby, when it
says artist/electronica or something, click ther, if you never saw it b4
bye
>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<<

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From: "Brad Caviness" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) mp3 Players
Date: 04 Feb 1998 20:46:22 -0600

Hey Gang,

Someone posted the link to a *.mp3 file for a remix for First Cool Hive. I
downloaded it and then discovered I have no *.mp3 player installed on my
computer. Anybody have any recommendations where I can get one off the web.
Please respond privately. Click on the little blue line below.

Brad S. Caviness, Ricochet Bigwig
Ricochet Internet Music Magazine (http://www.ricochetmusic.com)
[e-mail]
"I am a cipher wrapped in an enigma smothered in a secret sauce."
 -- Jimmy James, "News Radio"
"The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming."
 -- Moby, musician.





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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) moby rebroadcast on feb 4
Date: 04 Feb 1998 22:08:23 -0600 (CST)

hey everyone!  write to liveconcerts.com and tell them they need to archive the
moby concert they played on the 4th!  it was from the chicago show!  they just
might actually do it!  that would be great!  then you could tape it and have it
to listen to forever and ever!

andy

gingerbread man



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From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby rebroadcast on feb 4
Date: 04 Feb 1998 21:20:39 -0700

[e-mail] wrote:
> hey everyone!  write to liveconcerts.com and tell them they need to archive
> the moby concert they played on the 4th!  it was from the chicago show!
> they just might actually do it!  that would be great!  then you could tape
> it and have it to listen to forever and ever!

Great idea!  What is their address?



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) feb 4 rebroadcast
Date: 04 Feb 1998 22:27:56 -0600 (CST)

> hey everyone!  write to liveconcerts.com and tell them they need to archive
> the moby concert they played on the 4th!  it was from the chicago show!
> they just might actually do it!  that would be great!  then you could tape
> it and have it to listen to forever and ever!

Great idea!  What is their address?


the address to write to is:  [e-mail]

tell them you want them to archive the feb 4 rebroadcast of the moby show from
chicago!

andy

gingerbread man



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From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Primetime Live played Moby
Date: 04 Feb 1998 21:39:56 -0700

My brother was just watching Primetime Live on ABC, and says that
before going to a commercial break, they played Moby's "Alone" in
the background for about ten seconds.



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From: Rob Skipworth <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) mp3 Players
Date: 04 Feb 1998 22:49:11 -0600

MP3 Players-
Winamp is the best one I've seen
you can get it at www.winamp.com
check out the plug ins..... they do some incredible light shows with the music

Rob

Brad Caviness wrote:

> Hey Gang,
>
> Someone posted the link to a *.mp3 file for a remix for First Cool Hive. I
> downloaded it and then discovered I have no *.mp3 player installed on my
> computer. Anybody have any recommendations where I can get one off the web.
> Please respond privately. Click on the little blue line below.
>
> Brad S. Caviness, Ricochet Bigwig
> Ricochet Internet Music Magazine (http://www.ricochetmusic.com)
> [e-mail]
> "I am a cipher wrapped in an enigma smothered in a secret sauce."
>  -- Jimmy James, "News Radio"
> "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming."
>  -- Moby, musician.






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From: erik selke <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) mp3 players
Date: 05 Feb 1998 00:01:07 -0500 (EST)

well... here is the breakdown of what I think are the best MP3 players
around...

unix - Amp
mac  - MacAmp
win  - WinAmp

notice a trentd?

e

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            But not O.K. to show him getting his balls stroked"

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From: "Pedersen, Trond Erik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) mp3 players
Date: 05 Feb 1998 08:48:00 +0100

Now that everybody has been enlighten regarding MP3-players perhaps
someone can post some Moby MP3's so that we may evaluate our WinAmps a
bit better ;)

T.



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From: Jonathan Ruano <[e-mail]>
Subject: E-concert (was Re: (mobility) feb 4 rebroadcast)
Date: 05 Feb 1998 09:51:46 +0100

On Wed, Feb 04, 1998 at 10:27:56PM -0600, [e-mail] wrote:

> tell them you want them to archive the feb 4 rebroadcast of the moby show from
> chicago!
How it was ? I tried to stay here at office to listen to it, but with my
CET time-slice, it was at 2:30 AM, and I felt somewhat sleepy last night :(

Jonathan.

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From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) SPAM
Date: 05 Feb 1998 08:10:52 -0800 (PST)





HEY BILL GATES!!! STOP SPAMMING US!!!

>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<<
"If you lived here, you'd be home right now!!!"
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From: Marjorana Karathanasis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) [Fwd: Fw: MICROSOFT WIN98&$1000!!!!! PLEASE READ! YOULL BE GLAD YOU   DID!  (fwd)]
Date: 05 Feb 1998 12:14:22 -0500 (EST)

clearly this is a piece of shite intended to clog the internet and
whoever made it up is laughing at us as we speak. I got
the same one about three months ago--am I 1000 dollars more laden in my
pockets?  Hells no.  I think
we should hearby forbid lame forwards from mobility.  Am I wrong in asking
this?

--marjorana




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From: "Ken Rowe" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) [Fwd: Fw: MICROSOFT WIN98&$1000!!!!! PLEASE READ! YOULL BE GLAD YOU   DID!  (fwd)]
Date: 05 Feb 1998 12:35:47 -0800

It's Bullshit.  Number one Bill Gates does not send out personal e-mail and
if he did their would not be spelling errors.  Second if microsoft was truly
developeing a system toi track e-mails they wouldn't tell the public
Ken
-----Original Message-----
YOULL BE GLAD YOU DID! (fwd)]


>clearly this is a piece of shite intended to clog the internet and
>whoever made it up is laughing at us as we speak. I got
>the same one about three months ago--am I 1000 dollars more laden in my
>pockets?  Hells no.  I think
>we should hearby forbid lame forwards from mobility.  Am I wrong in asking
>this?
>
>--marjorana
>
>
>




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From: theShackofXaq <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) [Fwd: Fw: MICROSOFT WIN98&$1000!!!!! PLEASE READ! YOULL BE GLAD YOU DID! (fwd)]
Date: 05 Feb 1998 11:53:54 -0600 (CST)

On Thu, 5 Feb 1998, Marjorana Karathanasis wrote:

> clearly this is a piece of shite intended to clog the internet and
> whoever made it up is laughing at us as we speak. I got
> the same one about three months ago--am I 1000 dollars more laden in my
> pockets?  Hells no.  I think
> we should hearby forbid lame forwards from mobility.  Am I wrong in asking
> this?

i also got this a while back. i hate them and i wish that people would be
a bit wiser and realise that these things are just a waste of time. i
never read them and would NEVER send them to someone else. come on...
also, is your name really marjorana karathanasis? wow! neat-o!
later,
-xaq-
"People have power not only depending on how much they know, but also what
they are prepared to find out!" alec empire




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From: "Brad Caviness" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Thanks a heap!
Date: 05 Feb 1998 14:13:01 -0600

Hey Everyone,

Thanks a million for the *.mp3 player recommendations. They were almost
unanimously for WinAmp, which I downloaded and installed and works
brilliantly. In fact, it's given me the bug to start using my heretofor
unused web space to encode post a weekly *mp3 track and rotate them out from
my collection of rare and nifty materials (lotsa Moby, don't worry). So, Now
I guess I need to locate a *.mp3 encoder as well. Hmmm.

Brad S. Caviness, Ricochet Bigwig
Ricochet Internet Music Magazine (http://www.ricochetmusic.com)
[e-mail]
"I am a cipher wrapped in an enigma smothered in a secret sauce."
 -- Jimmy James, "News Radio"
"The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming."
 -- Moby, musician.





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From: Damian <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) [Fwd: Fw: MICROSOFT WIN98&$1000!!!!! PLEASE READ! YOULL BE GLAD YOU DID!]
Date: 05 Feb 1998 13:48:45 -0700

Hello,

As I'm sure all of you are aware, forwarding something like this to the
mailing list without my approval is in direct violation of the rules
that have been set up.  Most people that participate in mailing lists
are aware that this is a common rule.  If anyone is ever unsure of
whether or not an email belongs on this list - ask first.  Otherwise, it
is grounds for removal.

> THE GOLDEN RULES
> ----------------
>
> 3.  Try to keep messages relevant to the list's topic (no general
> advertisements,  "warnings" about viruses, chain letters, and so
> forth).  Polls that are being conducted should be headed by one
> individual who collects the responses and publishes them to the list.
> The list manager has final say on whether a topic is welcome on
> the list; please do your best to follow his guidance.

Just a friendly reminder from the Church of Mobility.  (:

--
[e-mail]
http://www.xmission.com/~damian/mobility.html




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From: Marjorana Karathanasis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) [Fwd: Fw: MICROSOFT WIN98&$1000!!!!! PLEASE READ! YOULL BE GLAD YOU DID! (fwd)]
Date: 05 Feb 1998 16:05:12 -0500 (EST)

yeah, it is my full name. My dad is from Greece.
 I was quite the spelling
bee champ as a child.

-marjorana




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From: John Turpin <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: free Win 98 ?
Date: 05 Feb 1998 17:38:24 -0600

>Hi Everyone,
>    This has nothing to do with JG, but please read it.  You'll be
>glad you did.

The Win98 giveaway is an obvious fraud. Please keep trash like this off our
list.

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    C        The C.O.D.         John Turpin
    |                <jct1@
   / \                Ra.MsState.Edu>
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From: John Turpin <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) COMPILATION
Date: 05 Feb 1998 17:42:11 -0600

>(9) is absurd, i want to WARN you all for Number 9, not only one of the best
>songs of the Beatles,
>but surely the BEST song of this CD: THANKS,
>today is the third of february, by the way...
>
>thanks,
>
>(for bandwidth)
>
>kees

Switch to decaf, or ritallin, or something man!

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From: "Evil Ninja" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) new comer
Date: 05 Feb 1998 16:22:42 PST

hey my name is (screen name) is evil ninja (taken from moby hope he
doesnt mind)
my moby collection consits of
  -ambient
  -early underground
  -moby
  -everything is wrong
  -move
  -mix and remix
  -into the blue single
  -into the blue remixes
  -rare colection
  -animal rights (import 2cd set bonus cd little idiot)
  -..reach for revolver single
  -i like to score
  -voodoo child  the end of everything
  -mixmag collection vol2
 as you can see i am ahuge fan of moby and all his pseudo names
i once had the chance to go to his concert in washington dc but my ride
fell through i was so pissed off. for weeks
some other bands i like are aphex twins, meat beat
manifesto,radiohead,nine inch nails(big time),our lady peace,orbital,
marilyn manson, psychotica, deftones, korn, prick,pig, skold,skinny
puppy to wrap it up



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Lopez offer and mad pulls
Date: 05 Feb 1998 23:17:50 EST

Hey everyone.  My three day music shopping fest is over.  When the smoke
cleared, I came up with 25 new CD's and some nice treats.  Found the Hymn
Vinyl US promo 12" with those super phat mixes for 4.99.  Also found an extra
Lopez Why Can't It Stop? (CDTROPHY2).  I will sell it for $10 US dollars total
(w/s&h).  Email me privately for it.  Also found ETYTM US 3-trk promo for
2.99.  Also got The Story So Far, Futurythms, and many other "electronic"
CD's.  That's about it, oh, whoever watns to go to the Metro to see Fatboy
Slim (The Chi-Moby connection?) on March 3 (Tues.) for FREE let me know.  I am
deftly going and the more the merrier.  BTW, BT is opening for Crystal Method
at HOB on the 28.  I would go but I got tix for the DICEMAN.  Peace out.

-Carmen B.
"Be careful with that thing, it's stolen."




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From: erik selke <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) COMPILATION
Date: 06 Feb 1998 00:25:29 -0500 (EST)

Revoluntion 9 is a cool, but weird song.  I think it has to be one of the
most SAMPLED songs around... (i could pick out many myself)

e

    [e-mail]                             [e-mail]

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        Something About Incoherency http://mets.tcimet.net/~selke/

         "Its O.K. to show a man getting his balls kicked on T.V.
            But not O.K. to show him getting his balls stroked"

         "We can tell when people are lying... Their lips move"

On Thu, 5 Feb 1998, John Turpin wrote:

> >(9) is absurd, i want to WARN you all for Number 9, not only one of the best
> >songs of the Beatles,
> >but surely the BEST song of this CD: THANKS,
> >today is the third of february, by the way...
> >
> >thanks,
> >
> >(for bandwidth)
> >
> >kees
>
> Switch to decaf, or ritallin, or something man!
>
> --
>     C        The C.O.D.         John Turpin
>     |                <jct1@
>    / \                Ra.MsState.Edu>
>   O   D    <http://www2.msstate.edu/~jct1/cod/>
>
>
>




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Puffy
Date: 06 Feb 1998 15:54:10 EST

someone said they don't like Puff Daddy. Now i know this is off the list
subject but i'm gonna go out on a line here, but Puff Daddy has some serious
talent. He makes great music, and SOME of his lyrics are ok. Just my opinion i
could be wrong, but then again, everything is anyway...

tripp



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Puffy
Date: 06 Feb 1998 16:06:31 -0500 (EST)

i don't think redoing other people's songs is any example of talent.
if he had some real talent he could at least write one song that didn't
contain a sample. don't get me wrong, there is nothing bad about sampling,
but maybe he should try to create something of his own.
sorry there is nothing about moby. :)
i just had to respond to this.
cookypuss



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From: [e-mail] (Rick Ackerson)
Subject: Re: (mobility) Puffy
Date: 06 Feb 1998 03:07:52 PST

>someone said they don't like Puff Daddy. Now i know this is off the
list
>subject but i'm gonna go out on a line here, but Puff Daddy has
some serious
>talent. He makes great music, and SOME of his lyrics are ok. Just
my opinion i
>could be wrong, but then again, everything is anyway...

I don't think Puffy has much talent.  His songs aren't that bad, but
most of the ones that I have heard are based on old songs that have
already been hits.  It makes me wonder if he could make a good
original song if he wanted to.

Aaron Ackerson
Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Marina/6593/





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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Puffy
Date: 06 Feb 1998 16:12:37 EST

i guess i'm just biased to music that gets redone with some exiting new flair!
look at Moby, he samples lots of stuff, hell ,all techno was at the beginning
was samples. Rap is just a slower, more mainstream version of techno. The only
thing i don't like about rap is the fact that all the music is the same. Puffy
has a very unique sound when so few do. as does Moby.

tripp



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From: erik selke <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Puffy
Date: 06 Feb 1998 16:56:05 -0500 (EST)

I think there is a clear difference between sampling lots of stuff and
making original work (like moby) or sampling and overdubing so much that
you do a "90's" take on the old song.  Its gone far beyond sampling, its
gotten down to imitation.  When i first saw Puffy, I thought he was doing
his own "wierd al" thing - and when I found out he was serious - I was in
shock, and quite disgusted.

I have nothing against rap - but I don't think that what Puff is doing is
music, and I think it discredits rap, as well as give it terrible
stereotypes.  Unique maybe, original, hardly.

If he is a good producer, then he should stick to that because his solo
efforts only give me additional reason to stop watching MTV (sorry, I
don't follow his work, expecially with B.I.G. whom I personally think is a
disgusting character - its unfortunat he went out the way he did, I
wouldn't wish that on anyone, but I was more than disgusted with the media
hype over his death than the death of other celebs)

erik

    [e-mail]                             [e-mail]

           One Percent: http://www.mokum.pair.com/one_percent/
        Something About Incoherency http://mets.tcimet.net/~selke/

         "Its O.K. to show a man getting his balls kicked on T.V.
            But not O.K. to show him getting his balls stroked"

         "We can tell when people are lying... Their lips move"

On Fri, 6 Feb 1998 [e-mail] wrote:

> i guess i'm just biased to music that gets redone with some exiting new flair!
> look at Moby, he samples lots of stuff, hell ,all techno was at the beginning
> was samples. Rap is just a slower, more mainstream version of techno. The only
> thing i don't like about rap is the fact that all the music is the same. Puffy
> has a very unique sound when so few do. as does Moby.
>
> tripp
>




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From: [e-mail] (Ryan Taylor)
Subject: Re: (mobility) Puffy
Date: 06 Feb 1998 15:13:05 -0500

>i don't think redoing other people's songs is any example of talent.
>sorry there is nothing about moby. :)

>cookypuss

OH but there is :)  I'm assuming you think Moby has less talent w/ Animal
Rights considering he redid(remade?) Revolver.  Now while I haven't heard
the original..I think Revolver is a great song.  Just because a person/group
covers a song..doesn't mean they're any less talented.  Some examples?
RevCo's version of Do You Think I'm Sexy..See the Virus 100 cd from
Alternative Tentacles..groups like Nomeansno, Faith No More, L7, Sepultra,
Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy, and others recording their takes on Dead
Kennedy songs...Then there's the Shut Up Kitty comp from
Re-Constriction/Cargo Records...Your favorite "industrial" bands doing their
takes on popular songs..KMFDM doing U2's Mysterious Ways, D.D.T doing
Madonna's Vogue(imho..they do it better), A-Politiq doing PE's She Watch
Channel Zero?!, Fleshhouse doing the Beach Boys' Good Vibrations, and many
more...Last(but certainly not least) is Covered In Black from
Cleopatra...It's an industrial tribute to AC/DC..Die Krupps does It's A Long
Way To The Top...Pigface vs. Sheep On Drugs does a VERY interesting take on
Back In Black..Sister Machine Gun does TNT(Chris is known to do a cover at
every live show..)..and 16 Volt does Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheep.

As you can see..this is a very talented list of artists..are they less
talented cuz they covered a song?  I guess that's up to you to decide :)

Ryan (who's seeing Consolidated tonight..woo hoo!)

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From: erik selke <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Puffy
Date: 06 Feb 1998 17:33:49 -0500 (EST)

There is a BIG difference than making a cover of a single song - and
putting out an album - where at least, if not more than 1/2 the songs are
basically covers - Puffy is a cover act, nothing more, probobly less

erik

    [e-mail]                             [e-mail]

           One Percent: http://www.mokum.pair.com/one_percent/
        Something About Incoherency http://mets.tcimet.net/~selke/

         "Its O.K. to show a man getting his balls kicked on T.V.
            But not O.K. to show him getting his balls stroked"

         "We can tell when people are lying... Their lips move"

On Fri, 6 Feb 1998, Ryan Taylor wrote:

> OH but there is :)  I'm assuming you think Moby has less talent w/ Animal
> Rights considering he redid(remade?) Revolver.  Now while I haven't heard
> the original..I think Revolver is a great song.  Just because a person/group
> covers a song..doesn't mean they're any less talented.  Some examples?
> RevCo's version of Do You Think I'm Sexy..See the Virus 100 cd from
> Alternative Tentacles..groups like Nomeansno, Faith No More, L7, Sepultra,
> Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy, and others recording their takes on Dead
> Kennedy songs...Then there's the Shut Up Kitty comp from
> Re-Constriction/Cargo Records...Your favorite "industrial" bands doing their
> takes on popular songs..KMFDM doing U2's Mysterious Ways, D.D.T doing
> Madonna's Vogue(imho..they do it better), A-Politiq doing PE's She Watch
> Channel Zero?!, Fleshhouse doing the Beach Boys' Good Vibrations, and many
> more...Last(but certainly not least) is Covered In Black from
> Cleopatra...It's an industrial tribute to AC/DC..Die Krupps does It's A Long
> Way To The Top...Pigface vs. Sheep On Drugs does a VERY interesting take on
> Back In Black..Sister Machine Gun does TNT(Chris is known to do a cover at
> every live show..)..and 16 Volt does Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheep.
>
> As you can see..this is a very talented list of artists..are they less
> talented cuz they covered a song?  I guess that's up to you to decide :)
>
> Ryan (who's seeing Consolidated tonight..woo hoo!)
>
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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>
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> "Who said tyranny can't be fun?" -Consolidated
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>
>




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From: "Evil Ninja" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) new stuff
Date: 06 Feb 1998 20:54:23 PST

hey have any of you heard of any new stuff from moby i heard that there
is going to be a up coming singile and album but i dont know when or
what it is called.

off the note i think Puffy is a pretty good performer even though some
of his most famous songs are coveres. but nowadays what band does not
cover songs. My most favorite bands like nine inch nials have covered
many of song.  i went back to the original versions and compared them
and i found that the covers i liked better. plus covers show what the
artist is in to at that point in time.

evil ninja
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
aim= evilninja6
email= [e-mail]


i do not want this
don't you tell me how i feel
you do not know just how i feel
      -nine inch nails-
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From: "jason(INRI)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) new stuff
Date: 07 Feb 1998 00:01:33 -0500



>cover songs. My most favorite bands like nine inch nials have covered
>many of song.  i went back to the original versions and compared them


well, i know physical is an adam ant song, and memorabilia is a cover song
by someone.... but does that really constitute "many"?

i heard a warm place sounds like an old david bowie song, and down in it
sounds like dig it by skinny puppy... but those aren't really cover songs.

i dunno.... just confused by this statement.




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From: "Evil Ninja" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) new stuff
Date: 06 Feb 1998 21:41:03 PST


>
>i heard a warm place sounds like an old david bowie song, and down in
it
>sounds like dig it by skinny puppy... but those aren't really cover
songs.
>
>i dunno.... just confused by this statement.

well memorbilial was written by david ball (which i don't know who that
is)

reznor has covered some songs in live concerts
  scary monsters-bowie
  red scab-adam ant and marco pirroni
  beat my guest-adam ant and marco pirroni

he has also covered songs on cds
  dead souls - joy division
  supernaut-black sabbath

mabey many wasn't the right word for it i guess i was thinking of artist
in general here and mixed it up with the nin passages
sorry for the confusion if you have any more questions on nin email me
personally at [e-mail] so we don't tie up the mobility
would love your questions it sparks my interest when i get questions on
things i claim to know.

  thanx,
    evil ninja
[e-mail]
aim evilninja6

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From: Furball <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) new stuff
Date: 07 Feb 1998 00:11:44 -0600 (CST)

At 12:01 AM 2/7/98 -0500, you wrote:
>i heard a warm place sounds like an old david bowie song, and down in it
>sounds like dig it by skinny puppy... but those aren't really cover songs.

Not sure about the Bowie reference, but Down In It sounds NOTHING like Dig
It. Trent has his own flair and style; Down In It has a hip-hop meets
electro flavour whereas Dig It is stereotypical early Puppy...

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From: "Brad Caviness" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) new stuff
Date: 07 Feb 1998 00:22:49 -0600


-----Original Message-----
>hey have any of you heard of any new stuff from moby i heard that there
>is going to be a up coming singile and album but i dont know when or
>what it is called.
>
I've heard a bootleg cassette that had some outtakes, remixes, remixes and a
good chunk of the score for "Double Tap." One song, called "Inside," (kind
of in the "alone" vibe) was noted that it might appear on Moby's next
record. My favorite track was an 80's "Sprockets-Rock" euro-pop cut with
Paul Yates on vocals called "Schaumgummi." It's about marshmallows,
supposedly, sung in german, and hysterically funny, yet cool at the same
time. I think it was done strictly for fun, however, with no eye towards
ever releasing it.

BSC




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From: "Dennis Daniels" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Puffy
Date: 07 Feb 1998 11:36:56 -0600

         I don't really like Puffy that much either, but he is one of the
hardest working musicians around today, even more so than Moby maybe. After
all, you have to take into consideration how varied he is in making his
music. Has anyone here heard "All About The Benjamins"? Dave Grohl and even
Rob Zombie are on that song. It doesn't get much more varied than that.

   D.


----------

i guess i'm just biased to music that gets redone with some exiting new
flair!
look at Moby, he samples lots of stuff, hell ,all techno was at the
beginning
was samples. Rap is just a slower, more mainstream version of techno. The
only
thing i don't like about rap is the fact that all the music is the same.
Puffy
has a very unique sound when so few do. as does Moby.

tripp



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From: MoonDogg <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby in San Diego? (Show Review)
Date: 07 Feb 1998 11:31:01 -0800

Saw Moby last night in San Diego. He was headlining with BT, Crystal
Method, Kottonmouth Kings, & Bran Van 3000.

BV3 was pretty cool, 3 female & 2 male singers/rappers with keyboards,
bass, drums, guitar. They were pretty interesting with the songs
changing tempo and style back and forth. Worth watching for.

I didn't care for KK. 3 rappers with live band. They were decent, but
unoriginal. Combination of Rage Against the Machine and Cypress Hill.
Entertaining only for a short while.

Crystal Method rocked of course. No need explaining who they are I
assume.

BT likewise. CM and BT definately brought the house down.

Moby, on the other hand, dissapointed me. I have never seen him live,
and haven't been a fan very long, but I am a BIG fan. He had a guitar
player, drums, percussionist. Moby played around on the bongos and a
couple of drums now and then, but other than that, he just jumped around
on stage and mouthed the words to the songs which were all on DAT. I
guess I was expecting him to actually play some music. I have seen
discussions in the past on this subject, and I am not trying to start
another argument, but I would really have preffered to see him spin,
play guitar, sing, etc. He did sing a little, and he also said his
guitar 'didn't show up'.

Altogether it was a rockin show in a really small venue. There were some
technical probems between sets, but the DJ keep the crowd groovin'
sufficiently while they waited.

----===MoonDogg-->

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> >  > It is indeed *the* Moby. Playing in San Diego....How stoked am I?
> >
>
> Could somebody please give me some information on this show?  Is it going to
> be 21 and up like it was last time he was in town?  Any help would be
> wonderful.
>
> Thanks
> Kathryn



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From: theShackofXaq <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) playing live with a XP-80
Date: 07 Feb 1998 13:54:57 -0600 (CST)

just briefly...
i have the opprotunity to play live next month. i use a roland XP-80 for
just about everything, along with a sampler. my question: does anyone
know how i can play live with minimal breaks? i've tried looping 8-16 bar
phrases, but when i turn off the loop to go to, say, bar 9, i
can't turn the loop back on again for the next 8 bars. it just goes to
the end and stops.
is there a way to load more than one song at a time and chain them together?
if you can help me i will be forever in your debt.
of course, reply to ME ONLY, not the list.
thanks for your time!
-xaq-
"People have power not only depending on how much they know, but also what
they are prepared to find out!" alec empire




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby in San Diego? (Show Review)
Date: 07 Feb 1998 17:04:45 EST

ditto on the san diego review although I did miss BV 3000.  The one item that
kind of turns me off about seeing Moby live is he talks a lot during his set
inbetween songs, not to say I don't care what he has to say but when the
artists before him play straight through into other songs, the break inbetween
kind of breaks up the rythm and flow of the music.  I think that Moby is an
incredible person and musician, although I feel he alienates alot of his
fanbase by continually playing 21 and over clubs.  oh well the show was worth
the ten bucks
jeff



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From: John Turpin <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) That's When I Reach for My Remote -- editorial
Date: 07 Feb 1998 20:40:51 -0600

An online Christian music mag comments on MTV and Moby's "Revolver":

<http://tlem.netcentral.net/features/rake/bpm_04.html>

--
    C        The C.O.D.         John Turpin
    |                <jct1@
   / \                Ra.MsState.Edu>
  O   D    <http://www2.msstate.edu/~jct1/cod/>





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From: Barrett Busch <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) moby mp3s?
Date: 07 Feb 1998 22:15:57 -0500

Hello everyone. I need some help. I am looking for Moby mp3 files from like
all of his older releases, like from Instinct. My stupid local record stores
do not have any, and i would really like to here some of the songs. So if
anyone knows where i can get a bunch of mp3s, PLEASE reply!!!


Thanx in advance,
Barrett Busch




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From: Rob Skipworth <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby mp3s?
Date: 07 Feb 1998 21:45:06 -0600



> >Hello everyone. I need some help. I am looking for Moby mp3 files from like
> >all of his older releases, like from Instinct. My stupid local record stores
> >do not have any, and i would really like to here some of the songs. So if
> >anyone knows where i can get a bunch of mp3s, PLEASE reply!!!

  If anyone does know, please respond to the list.  I'm sure there are quite a
few of us that would like a copy of these files.

rob s




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From: Mark Reed <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) new stuff
Date: 08 Feb 1998 00:49:21 +0000

>>
>I've heard a bootleg cassette that had some outtakes, remixes, remixes and a
>good chunk of the score for "Double Tap."

OK stop teasing! How do we get hold of it..?

--
Mark Reed



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From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) puffy is a dipshit
Date: 08 Feb 1998 11:26:00 -0800 (PST)




i said something about puffy. i h8 him. if he had any talent he'd make
his own music. if he samples moby thats the last straw.
also every breath u take was #1 the day i was born, and that kind of
hurts to see some loser take my song and turn it into an ode to some
dead rapper that i don't like either.
there's a good anti-puffy page up, yahoo knows where it is, i don't,
it's under music that sux under cool yahoo categories under
entertainment or something...
PUFFY WILL EAT MY SHIT!!!!!
MOBY IS KING!!!!!!!
==
>>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<<<
"If you lived here, you'd be home right now!!!"

_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Puffy
Date: 08 Feb 1998 15:14:32 -0500 (EST)

that has absolutely nothing to do with what i was talking about. like i said
there is nothing wrong with covering songs, but every puffy song is a take off
of someone else's. i think if he had any talent at all, he would create some
thing of his own. i was not talking about any other people besides moby. so
don't take two lines out of what i wrote and turn it into your reason to
rant. in my opinion, puffy doesn't have any real talent, and that is the
only person i was concerned with when writing that.
cookypuss



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Puffy
Date: 08 Feb 1998 15:15:11 -0500 (EST)

thank you erik.
cookypuss



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From: "Tooey" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Puffy
Date: 08 Feb 1998 15:57:29 -0600

You folks kill me!!!!!!!
hahahahahaahahaaaa
Puffy is an artist whether you realize it or not.
Speaking from a DJ's point of view in a club where I don't go a night
without playing at least 2 Puffy songs, and getting requests for 14 more.
Puffy takes songs, 80's hit songs and inserts them in (SOME) of his dance
songs. Making them accessible again for a new generation to enjoy. Say for
example, Matthew Wilder's "Break My Stride", find me one DJ in America or
abroad that played that song in his nightclub regularly unless he was
clearing his club out for a reason. The fidelity is terrible, there is NO
bass to speak of, and the fluff lyrics around the hook are just that FLUFF.
Puffy comes along and take s a recognizable hook and re-sings it in his
song. Do the kids care it was a crap pop song to start with? No, I lower the
volume on that part and they sing it at the top of their lungs on the dance
floor.
Speaking as a remixer and (hopefully) one day producer, it is not as easy as
you think to come up with lyrics that people will groove to around a sample
based song
Speaking as an assistant music director at a radio station, there are
Hundreds of songs a month that try to do exactly what Puffy does for his hit
songs. but they don't hit the mark. They don't get on the air, they don't
get call backs on the request line. They just sit at the bottom of our CHIT
box collecting dust.
Finally.... Listen to Puffy's WHOLE CD, not just the overplayed over
discussed(grin) and over criticized hit songs, there ARE other songs on
there that don't contain samples of old songs, there are positive songs,
there are love songs, there are energy building songs and (unfortunately)
there are some gangster rap songs.
So before you jump on the bandwagon dissing an artist of talent that maybe
you don't understand or appreciate, think again.
Peace



>that has absolutely nothing to do with what i was talking about. like i
said
>there is nothing wrong with covering songs, but every puffy song is a take
off
>of someone else's. i think if he had any talent at all, he would create
some
>thing of his own. i was not talking about any other people besides moby. so
>don't take two lines out of what i wrote and turn it into your reason to
>rant. in my opinion, puffy doesn't have any real talent, and that is the
>only person i was concerned with when writing that.
>cookypuss
>
>




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From: "Ben Chim" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Puffy
Date: 08 Feb 1998 17:17:23 +0000

> Puffy is an artist whether you realize it or not.

Nah..puffy sucks.  Just because someone sells well or appeals
to commercial listeners doesn't mean he's an artist.  Puffy and his
friends are a disgrace to hip hop.  If you want rap, listen to Gang
Starr, Common, or Mobb Deep.  they kick ass.

Ben



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From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) anti-puffy site
Date: 08 Feb 1998 15:03:56 -0800 (PST)


<http://members.aol.com/MojoRisenn/puff.html>
Here's a good anti-puffy site i found on yahoo
It pretty much explains everything, and it mentions the humpty dance
NOW PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT PUFFY!!!
This is a moby list, and we can all keep our opinions to ourselves
I'm sorry, I originally started the Puffy thing by saying in my intro
letter that i h8 him, but u guys took it 2 far!!!
Pretty soon we'll be getting mail from hanson fans saying that theyre
kool...
*sheesh*
rermber...
THIS IS A MOBY LIST!!!!
NOT A PUFFY DISCUSSION GROUP!!!
BYE!!!


==
>>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<<<
"If you lived here, you'd be home right now!!!"

_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com




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From: erik selke <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) anti-puffy site
Date: 08 Feb 1998 18:46:25 -0500 (EST)

christ, when a brain dead page that was...  i can't believe i was that
bored

    [e-mail]                             [e-mail]

           One Percent: http://www.mokum.pair.com/one_percent/
        Something About Incoherency http://mets.tcimet.net/~selke/

         "Its O.K. to show a man getting his balls kicked on T.V.
            But not O.K. to show him getting his balls stroked"

         "We can tell when people are lying... Their lips move"

On Sun, 8 Feb 1998, Paul Simpson wrote:

>
> <http://members.aol.com/MojoRisenn/puff.html>
> Here's a good anti-puffy site i found on yahoo
> It pretty much explains everything, and it mentions the humpty dance
> NOW PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT PUFFY!!!
> This is a moby list, and we can all keep our opinions to ourselves
> I'm sorry, I originally started the Puffy thing by saying in my intro
> letter that i h8 him, but u guys took it 2 far!!!
> Pretty soon we'll be getting mail from hanson fans saying that theyre
> kool...
> *sheesh*
> rermber...
> THIS IS A MOBY LIST!!!!
> NOT A PUFFY DISCUSSION GROUP!!!
> BYE!!!
>
>
> ==
> >>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<<<
> "If you lived here, you'd be home right now!!!"
>
> _________________________________________________________
> DO YOU YAHOO!?
> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>
>




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Puffy
Date: 08 Feb 1998 18:58:52 EST

Since I satrted this mess i'd like to make my final say. As music goes, hip-
hop culture has been on the downside for the last few years. The violence and
racism it portrays, the people who listen to it, the attitude created by it,
and the lack of universal understanding is all part of what is wrong with it.
Puffy decided to take some 80's classics and turn them into 90's hits with a
new flair. He wanted to do something that would make me, the non rap listener
sit back and appreciate it. I'm an 80's DJ here in Santa Cruz and i play the
Police and David Bowie on a regular basis. Not everyone these days has heard
"Lets Dance" by David Bowie. Puffy not only took it upon himself to revive a
classic tune, but started to bridge the gap between people who listen to rap,
and people who don't. When I found myself sitting at Blockbuster Music
listening to his CD I realized that alot of my anti-rap feeling were being
thrown out the window. This man has talent. He owns his own record label that
he started. He makes music that he wants people to like. He wants to make
money.And he is succeeding. I could see if he was outright stealing the songs,
but he is paying for the rights. He does what Moby does, he does what makes
him happy, he does what makes his fans happy, and he tries to survive in this
world of music that is so bent on Top 40 crap like Hanson and The Spice Girls
that its a wonder we've ever heard of Moby. All i'm trying to say is he took a
new take on some great 80's songs and did it right. Hell, even Vanilla Ice and
MC Hammer each had 1 good 80's sampled song. We all have to be a little more
open minded. We all need to be good people. We all have to realize we all
can't agree. But wouldn't it be nice if we could.

Dj Tripp
aka Evil Ninja2



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From: Marjorana Karathanasis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Puffy
Date: 08 Feb 1998 19:27:45 -0500 (EST)

No really, I WANT to get 10,000 emails all about Puff Daddy.
I don't give a rat's ass what y'all think of him.

For the love of God and Moby,
Shut up




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From: Ryu <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) dan perry?
Date: 08 Feb 1998 21:01:02 -0500

sorry to do this, as i know this list has been
WAY off topic lately...but i'm really in need
to get in touch with dan perry, so if you're
reading dan.....write me back.
never got the cd.

love,
ryu

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 My name is Ryu.  I make hard emotional
 electronic music.  To hear some, get cds,
   and see stuff, go to my homepage at:
http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 Ryu  |  [e-mail]  |  814-867-0756
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++




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From: Ryu <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) to make up for that last one...
Date: 08 Feb 1998 21:02:55 -0500

to make up for the last one...
here's a moby-related question:

are you gals and guys happy with the
things moby writes about in his lyrics?
i mean, the lyrics alone?  wouldn't it be
nice if he'd implement some of his attitude
from his essays into his lyrics?
i love his love anguish and personal pain,
but i want to hear him attack ideology!!!!

love,
ryu

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 My name is Ryu.  I make hard emotional
 electronic music.  To hear some, get cds,
   and see stuff, go to my homepage at:
http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 Ryu  |  [e-mail]  |  814-867-0756
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Puffy
Date: 08 Feb 1998 22:03:12 EST

well....i'm going to the Puff daddy and the Family concert in a couple of
weeks and honestly, I'm not the biggest fan but if he can make me move out of
my seat and dance, then he is definitely worth watching plus i got the tickets
for free!! love..elie



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From: "Eric M. Goldberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) A Enuffy of Puffy!
Date: 08 Feb 1998 22:12:01 -0500

Ahhhhhhh!
Come on everyone please cant we quit the puff stuff?
i dont care.. most moby fans dont care.
and most of all moby doesnt care! (i dont know what that means)

Anyways please stop spamming me with your puffy stories.


Thankyou and enjoy your Sunday Evening
Eric





       "There are only two kinds of music. Good and the other kind."
        -Duke Ellington-
                        Eric M. Goldberg
                        [e-mail]
                        http://www.netrox.net/~gold/



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From: Dan Legare <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) my homework
Date: 09 Feb 1998 01:50:14 -0700

*  Name-Danny Legare
*  Age-26
*  What is in your Moby collection

moby-move ep (elektra)
moby-hymn ep (that 33.3 minute version. good gawd, that is incredible) (mute)
moby-everything is wrong (elektra)
moby-feeling so real ep (elektra)
moby-into the blue ep (mute) (with spiritual/simple mix, voodoo child mix etc)
moby-animal rights (elektra)
moby-animal rights (mute 2cd set w/little idiot)
moby-the story so far
moby-that's when i reach for my revolver (promo cd5 with live tracks) (elektra)
moby-i like to score (elektra)


*  Where you first heard Moby, and how much of a fan you are

i heard hymm and feeling so real back to back when listening to everything
is wrong.
i think he is brilliant, his literature at bit extremist-but i do agree
with him. to a point. the fact that he is into so many different types of
music, almost a chameleon, yet he holds strong to his ideals in such a
mechanical enviroment.

*  Other artists you like

autechre, download, ben folds five, aphex twin, sarah mclachlan, nusrat
fateh ali khan, slowdive, dead can dance, delerium, an april march, pixies,
meatbeat manifesto, anne clark

*  Any other interesting information you wish to share

anybody knows of where i might be able to get a moby shirt?


Dan Legare
Nettwerk Mail Order Department
[e-mail]
Nettwerk Productions-Box 330 1755 Robson St. Vancouver, BC V6G 2B5
PH-604.654.2929  FX-604.654.1993 [e-mail]
http://www.nettwerk.com








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From: but not _the_ frankz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) anti-puffy site
Date: 09 Feb 1998 04:26:24 -0700

At 03:03 PM 2/8/98 -0800, you wrote:
>
><http://members.aol.com/MojoRisenn/puff.html>

>Pretty soon we'll be getting mail from hanson fans saying that theyre
>kool...
>*sheesh*

GREAT PAUL!
I wanted to write this myself...
but you just read my mind...

I dont even know who this puffy is....


----------------------
Logic: the one thing that counts


http://home.wxs.nl/~til00003/




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From: "Ciccone, Nancy J." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Puffy
Date: 09 Feb 1998 09:05:00 -0500

You have a point BUT, I think there is a big difference between doing a
cover song here and there and making a whole cd or the  majarity of your
work  remakes.

I think Puff Daddy's music is fun but I also think he gets WAY more
credit than he deserves.
 ----------

>i don't think redoing other people's songs is any example of talent.
>sorry there is nothing about moby. :)

>cookypuss

OH but there is :)  I'm assuming you think Moby has less talent w/
Animal
Rights considering he redid(remade?) Revolver.  Now while I haven't
heard
the original..I think Revolver is a great song.  Just because a
person/group
covers a song..doesn't mean they're any less talented.  Some examples?
RevCo's version of Do You Think I'm Sexy..See the Virus 100 cd from
Alternative Tentacles..groups like Nomeansno, Faith No More, L7,
Sepultra,
Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy, and others recording their takes on
Dead
Kennedy songs...Then there's the Shut Up Kitty comp from
Re-Constriction/Cargo Records...Your favorite "industrial" bands doing
their
takes on popular songs..KMFDM doing U2's Mysterious Ways, D.D.T doing
Madonna's Vogue(imho..they do it better), A-Politiq doing PE's She Watch
Channel Zero?!, Fleshhouse doing the Beach Boys' Good Vibrations, and
many
more...Last(but certainly not least) is Covered In Black from
Cleopatra...It's an industrial tribute to AC/DC..Die Krupps does It's A
Long
Way To The Top...Pigface vs. Sheep On Drugs does a VERY interesting take
on
Back In Black..Sister Machine Gun does TNT(Chris is known to do a cover
at
every live show..)..and 16 Volt does Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheep.

As you can see..this is a very talented list of artists..are they less
talented cuz they covered a song?  I guess that's up to you to decide :)

Ryan (who's seeing Consolidated tonight..woo hoo!)

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From: "Chris Williams" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Dammit!
Date: 09 Feb 1998 10:14:17 -0500

Enough about PUFFY.  I am on a MOBY list.
NOT a damn PUFFY list.  If you want to talk
about Puffy, get your own list, and shut the
hell up.

-C



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From: Stephanie Lyn Weidemann <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Dammit!   (fwd)
Date: 09 Feb 1998 10:40:19 -0500 (EST)



---------- Forwarded message ----------
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Enough about PUFFY.  I am on a MOBY list.
NOT a damn PUFFY list.  If you want to talk
about Puffy, get your own list, and shut the
hell up.

-C

good point!







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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Dammit2
Date: 09 Feb 1998 12:17:53 EST

Puffy was related to music, music is related to Moby and no one was talking
about anything else anyways.



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From: Marjorana Karathanasis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Dammit2
Date: 09 Feb 1998 12:40:30 -0500 (EST)

everything is related to music.  Life is music.  But you don't hear me
writing a dissertation on that do you?

I think the majority wins here. Enough of the Puff.

love,
marjorana




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From: "William Turner Spencer Iii" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Dammit!
Date: 09 Feb 1998 12:52:15 -0500

Amen to that, Chris.

"dreamANALYZER



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From: Furball <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) to make up for that last one...
Date: 09 Feb 1998 15:52:51 -0600 (CST)

At 09:02 PM 2/8/98 -0500, you wrote:
>are you gals and guys happy with the
>things moby writes about in his lyrics?
>i mean, the lyrics alone?  wouldn't it be
>nice if he'd implement some of his attitude
>from his essays into his lyrics?
>i love his love anguish and personal pain,
>but i want to hear him attack ideology!!!!

That's the point. Moby tries to seperate his ideals and his music as much as
he can. Rather than get labeled as some ultra-PC nutcase and alienating
possible fans, he writes either jovial pop/dance songs or
guitar-and-drum-machine-driven angst rock. His essays let him express
himself on a political level, while the music is a medium for his emotional
output.

>love,
>ryu
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> My name is Ryu.  I make hard emotional
> electronic music.  To hear some, get cds,
>   and see stuff, go to my homepage at:
>http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Ryu  |  [e-mail]  |  814-867-0756
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
   *-----------------------=====================--------------------------*
   |        I'm on an ocean that has a brain and makes us dream...        |
   |          I'm on a mission to wipe imagination clean...               |
   |                         -Failure, "Solaris"                          |
   | DJFurball on IRC                                   Kevin in reality  |
   |                  http://www.pla-net.net/~furball                     |
   *-----------------------=====================--------------------------*




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From: erik selke <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) to make up for that last one...
Date: 09 Feb 1998 17:17:55 -0500 (EST)

hmm... I'd be curious to hear a side project with his views implemented in
his music... you never know...

I don't mind a partial separatism between the two, but some great bands
have used both their musical talent and ideologies to make some very
profound musical statements

e

    [e-mail]                             [e-mail]

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         "Its O.K. to show a man getting his balls kicked on T.V.
            But not O.K. to show him getting his balls stroked"

         "We can tell when people are lying... Their lips move"

On Mon, 9 Feb 1998, Furball wrote:

> At 09:02 PM 2/8/98 -0500, you wrote:
> >are you gals and guys happy with the
> >things moby writes about in his lyrics?
> >i mean, the lyrics alone?  wouldn't it be
> >nice if he'd implement some of his attitude
> >from his essays into his lyrics?
> >i love his love anguish and personal pain,
> >but i want to hear him attack ideology!!!!
>
> That's the point. Moby tries to seperate his ideals and his music as much as
> he can. Rather than get labeled as some ultra-PC nutcase and alienating
> possible fans, he writes either jovial pop/dance songs or
> guitar-and-drum-machine-driven angst rock. His essays let him express
> himself on a political level, while the music is a medium for his emotional
> output.
>
> >love,
> >ryu
> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > My name is Ryu.  I make hard emotional
> > electronic music.  To hear some, get cds,
> >   and see stuff, go to my homepage at:
> >http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/
> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > Ryu  |  [e-mail]  |  814-867-0756
> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>    *-----------------------=====================--------------------------*
>    |        I'm on an ocean that has a brain and makes us dream...        |
>    |          I'm on a mission to wipe imagination clean...               |
>    |                         -Failure, "Solaris"                          |
>    | DJFurball on IRC                                   Kevin in reality  |
>    |                  http://www.pla-net.net/~furball                     |
>    *-----------------------=====================--------------------------*
>
>




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From: "Evil Ninja" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) re:puffy
Date: 09 Feb 1998 16:05:58 PST

whooo!!!!
i finially got done deleting those puffy spams they were really boring
i joined this list to talk about moby but i haven't had time yet.


     evil ninja
     [e-mail]
     i shouldn't go
                   but you are
                              wrenching dragging
                                                shakine me
                                    turn off the
                            sun pull
                   the stars
       from the sky

      -nin-

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From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) that show review someone sent...
Date: 09 Feb 1998 14:37:27 -0800 (PST)



About that show review someone sent...

Has anyone else here heard of Bran Van 3000? I only know 1 song by
them (Drinking in L.A.) but I think it's da bomb...
IMHO they kind of sound like a canadian version of Beck... it's mostly
1 guy that makes all the music, with a bunch of back-up singers, kinda
like OMC or something...
The album is kalled "Glee" and in the U.S. it's on Audiogram records.
correct me if i'm wrong which I probably am...this is what I've heard
from the January 1998 CMJ magazine, the song "Drinking..." is on
it...oh, I heard that song on the radio recently, and I saw the video
on Muchmusic, which is Canada's version of MTV....

And about Kottonmouth Kings: Acoording to my local modern rock
station, they are nothing but a poor man's Beastie Boys, that pretty
much says it...

"As I say this to you tonight, let us not forget, there is hope..."
(sorry I have that song stuck in my hed, MTV plays it a LOT lately...)

k bye....
"I was normal once. I didn't like it."
"Where I come from there are men with big, loud  voices, You'd never
make it there!!!!"

==
>>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<<<
"If you lived here, you'd be home right now!!!"

_________________________________________________________
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Puffy
Date: 09 Feb 1998 19:34:56 EST

The Best thing about all this anti-puffy businees is that if Moby remixed a
song of his you'd all run out and buy it and say it was a great move for moby
to enter even more mainsteam.

dj tripp



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From: anthony alznauer <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) lyrics
Date: 09 Feb 1998 18:17:12 -0800 (PST)


I agree with Ryu. Politically/Ideologically charged
music puts itself in a box. Look at Christian music,
(i grew up listening to it) over the years the
message has gotten so "important" Christians stopped
caring if the music was any good and it got worse. In
terms of Moby i'd hate to see the day that people
lose focus on the music and the raw emotion and
beauty of God Moving... because they are too busy
agreeing/not agreeing with which God... add info
about his political beliefs etc and it gets even
worse. Moby's music is about emotion, energy, love
etc. He'll never need to say anything about it for me
to get the message.

-bulb naked
_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com




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From: Damian <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Puffy
Date: 09 Feb 1998 19:25:20 -0700

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> The Best thing about all this anti-puffy businees is that if Moby remixed a
> song of his you'd all run out and buy it and say it was a great move for moby
> to enter even more mainsteam.

Getting cynical now aren't we?  I for one would run out & buy it just to
see how twisted Moby could make it.  :)



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From: "Brad Caviness" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Puffy
Date: 09 Feb 1998 22:36:27 -0600


-----Original Message-----
>[e-mail] wrote:
>>
>> The Best thing about all this anti-puffy businees is that if Moby remixed
a
>> song of his you'd all run out and buy it and say it was a great move for
moby
>> to enter even more mainsteam.
>
To which Damian replied:
>Getting cynical now aren't we?  I for one would run out & buy it just to
>see how twisted Moby could make it.  :)
>
And now I'm adding:
Anyone who's heard Moby's "Babyface" take on Metallica's "Until It Sleeps
(Herman Mellville Mix)" would know this to be true. He'd make Puffy punk
rawk or death metal.

BSC




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From: "Eric M. Goldberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Puffalupakis
Date: 10 Feb 1998 00:00:46 -0500

Speak for yourself Mr. Tripp.
I dont think it would be a great move for Moby, it'd be a blessing for
Puffy instead...
Though the funny thing that happened today was I heard someone blasting
their puff song, and well I couldnt go uncontested so I countered with a
nice blast of voodoo child!
BAM! eat original music, mr. driver next to me!

Thank you and have a puff of a day.
Eric

At 07:34 PM 2/9/98 -0500, you wrote:
>The Best thing about all this anti-puffy businees is that if Moby remixed a
>song of his you'd all run out and buy it and say it was a great move for moby
>to enter even more mainsteam.
>
>dj tripp
>





       "There are only two kinds of music. Good and the other kind."
        -Duke Ellington-
                        Eric M. Goldberg
                        [e-mail]
                        http://www.netrox.net/~gold/



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Hello and Re
Date: 10 Feb 1998 00:02:58 EST

*are you gals and guys happy with the things moby writes about in his lyrics?
*i mean, the lyrics alone?  wouldn't it be nice if he'd implement some of his
*attitude from his essays into his lyrics? i love his love anguish and
personal *pain, but i want to hear him attack ideology!!!!

Well, as this is my first post I will intro myself first.
name= Kris Tiles
age=21
collection= small but good
why Moby?= I got into him a few years back, mainly it was the essays that
sucked         me in.  I had a chance to see him live in Germany last year, and it
was             absolutly the best concert I've ever been to.  It was in a small club
and             very personal.  Saw him again in Milwaukee a few months ago.
other musicians= pretty much everything depending on mood.
        most recently, shelter, into another, david bowie...
about myself= i'm a professional student at WI.  I live for music, and I'm
sure you         can relate when I say I can't live without it.  I have been
vegetarian for 7         years and vegan for one. More to come, I guess...

So, in response to the message above.  I agree.  I think Moby has reached a
stage in his life where his fans respect what he stands for, and he should use
his voice to educate.  If you listen to Moby and don't involve yourself in
what he has to say, then it is not Moby that you like so much it is just the
music.  That's fine, but in my heart I believe that Moby hasn't come all this
way just to have some kids following him around for what comes out of his
keyboard.

-kat :)

"It's better to light one candle than to add to the darkness." - Howard Lymon



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From: "cm (matt)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) hey!! this doesnt involve puffy, whoohoo. fatboy slim is in here tho
Date: 09 Feb 1998 21:44:30 -0800

alright, since everybody is talking about people using moby's stuff and
remaking it, (i wont mention mr. daddy),
did anyone check fatboy slim on fashionably loud on mtv?  i thought i was
hearing things at first, but it turns out he used samples from
negativland's 'michael jackson' on the escape from noise cd(which is soo
cool).  this sounded really cool.

anyways, to add some moby content, i guess this shows that old songs can be
redone well.  sometimes.  but puffy?  man, all his songs are inferior to
the originals.  and remember that crappy ska cover of come on eileen that
came out a while ago?  the dexy's midnite runners original version was so
much better.

so, covers can be ok.  or something like that.

cm(matt)
[e-mail]
no LIVE NUDE GIRLS! here: www.teleport.com/~jbormet

"Conformity is the jailer of freedom and the enemy of growth."
JFK (1917-63)



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From: Dan Legare <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #81
Date: 09 Feb 1998 22:47:13 -0700



>
>
>*  Where you first heard Moby, and how much of a fan you are
>
>i heard hymm and feeling so real back to back when listening to everything
>is wrong.
>i think he is brilliant, his literature at bit extremist-but i do agree
>with him. to a point. the fact that he is into so many different types of
>music, almost a chameleon, yet he holds strong to his ideals in such a
>mechanical enviroment.

actually-i just remembered hearing 'thousand' in between sets at a jesus
jones/stereo mcs show. we all thought the speakers blew. and then....



Dan Legare
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From: Dan Legare <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #81
Date: 09 Feb 1998 22:40:36 -0700

just doing the night-shift thing...

any moby concert info to pass along to a canuck?

has he ever played canada? he must've.

does moby actually ever read this?

Dan Legare
Nettwerk Mail Order Department
[e-mail]
Nettwerk Productions-Box 330 1755 Robson St. Vancouver, BC V6G 2B5
PH-604.654.2929  FX-604.654.1993 [e-mail]
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From: Todd Huss <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) THE END OF PUFFY
Date: 10 Feb 1998 08:14:15 -0500

All right, a lurker is finally getting incensed enough to surface.

I'm suprised at the amount of petty squabling that's arising over Puffy. =
 And some people seem genuinely willing to put it to a rest, while some =
of you refuse to let the subject be changed.  In fact, some of you =
appear to be trying to enlarge the argument to encompass even more and =
inspire endless debate.  =20

I hope the following makes sense:

I'm suprised at how quickly many people that I THOUGHT would have been =
openminded (being Moby fans) are jumping at the opportunity to slam Puff =
Daddy.  I personally don't like him, but I don't think he "sucks," or =
his music "sucks."  I just don't personally like him. =20

I don't understand how anyone can define any artistic endeavor as "not =
good" or "it sucks," (as most of you so delicately put it,) when you =
don't like the artist or style to begin with.   Wouldn't the accurate =
statement be, "I didn't like it?"  Who is anyone to determine the value =
of any piece of art?  In my opinion, the value of art is determined by =
its personal effect on the observer.  As long as any song, painting, =
etc. inspires emotions in at least ONE person, then it is a "good" piece =
of art.  But just because you don't like it, that doesn't mean that the =
art should be devalued.

Picture a total metal-head coming up, listening to God Moving Over the =
Face of the Waters or Living.  "This sucks," he mutters and walks away.  =


I rest my case.

Todd "the Rain King" Huss
[e-mail]

PS Now if any of you would like to continue this debate, my email is =
listed above.  You are welcome to flame me there.  (NOT to the list.)







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From: theShackofXaq <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) hey!! this doesnt involve puffy, whoohoo. fatboy slim is in here tho
Date: 10 Feb 1998 09:35:06 -0600 (CST)

On Mon, 9 Feb 1998, cm (matt) wrote:

> alright, since everybody is talking about people using moby's stuff and
> remaking it, (i wont mention mr. daddy),
> did anyone check fatboy slim on fashionably loud on mtv?  i thought i was
> hearing things at first, but it turns out he used samples from
> negativland's 'michael jackson' on the escape from noise cd(which is soo
> cool).  this sounded really cool.

ya know what sucks? the fact that, on ALL the adverts for "FL," they
NEVER mentioned fatboy slim, and he is BY FAR the most talented person on
the entire show. once again, MTV shows its true face and bites itself in
the ass. every notice how they play really cool stuff during the news
clips and other stories, but would NEVER show a real d&b video?
or a moby video that didn't have a guitar in it.
i hate MTV.
-xaq-
"People have power not only depending on how much they know, but also what
they are prepared to find out!" alec empire




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From: "Rekkit" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Bran Van
Date: 10 Feb 1998 10:45:33 -0800

>Has anyone else here heard of Bran Van 3000? I only know 1 song by
>them (Drinking in L.A.) but I think it's da bomb...


To start out with a Moby related post-Bran Van actually thanks Moby in the
liner notes of their album...It's not a bad disc really, they do an
interesting cover of "Cum On Feel The Noise", and some nifty little
electronic ditties....

Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page:
http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm





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From: "William Turner Spencer Iii" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) hey!! this doesnt involve puffy, whoohoo. fatboy slim is in here tho
Date: 10 Feb 1998 11:22:17 -0500

mtv is dumb



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) hey!! this doesnt involve puffy, whoohoo. fatboy slim is in her
Date: 10 Feb 1998 11:40:14 EST

I agree MTV sucks



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From: Marjorana Karathanasis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) hey!! this doesnt involve puffy, whoohoo. fatboy slim is in her
Date: 10 Feb 1998 12:28:38 -0500 (EST)

On Tue, 10 Feb 1998 [e-mail] wrote:
> I agree MTV sucks
>
Can we stop with the slamming already?  I see the same debate about puffy
rehashing in the form of MTV...






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From: Samu Heinonen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) hey!! this doesnt involve
Date: 10 Feb 1998 19:55:44 +0200 (EET)


On Tuesday, February 10, 1998 12:28:38 you wrote:

>
>On Tue, 10 Feb 1998 [e-mail] wrote:
>> I agree MTV sucks
>>
>Can we stop with the slamming already?  I see the same debate about
puffy
>rehashing in the form of MTV...
>
>
>
>
>
this list was good , but now, almost every mail is crap. I dont want to
read some dummy "puff daddy" mails from Moby discussion list and btw
everyone knows that Puffy sucks. And please dont send some fucking "mtv
sucks" mails to this list. it's so boring to read those. This list was
and it still is sometimes great way to found out about Moby's future
things, let's all keep it like it was.



|********************************|
| Samu Heinonen ([e-mail]) |
|       www.dlc.fi/~samuhei      |
|    -Coffee is poison (-Moby)   |
|********************************|




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From: Little Drummer Boy <[e-mail]>
Date: 10 Feb 1998 13:31:01 -0500 (EST)

i agree that too much discussion of off-topic stuff has been going on
here...

I would like to suggest that it is perfectly reasonable for something off
topic to ARISE from something relevant to Moby.  However, if someone
wishes to continue discussion, why can't they just write to the other
people who mention it as well?  I understand that a few messages must come
up on the list first, but once it is understood that a large number of the
readers are fed up with the topic, please be kind and discuss it outside
the confines of the list.  Puffy and MTV would be perfect examples of
something to try this with.

Thank you for taking the time to read this, and i hope it helps.


****************************************************************
Your parents always told you:    |    What they meant was:
                |
Early to bed,            |    Early to rise,
  Early to rise,        |      Early to bed,
Makes a man healthy,        |    Makes a man healthy,
  Wealthy, and wise.        |      But socially dead.

REMEMBER THESE WORDS
****************************************************************

"We must be careful to never try so hard for something that we
         forget what it is that we are trying for."

            Little Drummer Boy
            [e-mail]




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) an actual moby question!
Date: 10 Feb 1998 12:43:19 -0600 (CST)

has anyone heard of what moby's first single will be off his new album to be
released some time this year?  i was just curious.  i also was wondering if
anyone out there has an extra copy of the aussie release of Jmaes Bond Theme?

andy

gingerbread man



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From: erik selke <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) re: james bond
Date: 10 Feb 1998 13:44:48 -0500 (EST)

I don't have an extra copy, but I have seen it listed on numerous online
CD stores... so if you feel safe using those...

erik

    [e-mail]                             [e-mail]

           One Percent: http://www.mokum.pair.com/one_percent/
        Something About Incoherency http://mets.tcimet.net/~selke/

         "Its O.K. to show a man getting his balls kicked on T.V.
            But not O.K. to show him getting his balls stroked"

         "We can tell when people are lying... Their lips move"

On Tue, 10 Feb 1998 [e-mail] wrote:

> has anyone heard of what moby's first single will be off his new album to be
> released some time this year?  i was just curious.  i also was wondering if
> anyone out there has an extra copy of the aussie release of Jmaes Bond Theme?
>
> andy
>
> gingerbread man
>




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Howdy
Date: 10 Feb 1998 13:50:44 EST

Hey People....I am a new member and was told to introduce myself, so, here we
go...

My name is Fil and I am from Chicago....I am 19 and have everything except
Animal Rights in my Moby Collection.....I got into Moby years ago and have
Lvoed his music since, despite all the 90 degree turns he has taken....I just
recently saw him perform in Minnesota and man, I gain a greater appreciation
for his style with just one performance....I'd hate to say that I am his
biggest fan, since I am sure that there are bigger Moby nuts out there than
me, but I would like to say that I am up there.....I live, breathe, poop
Moby....I compose Techno independantly and Moby, along with other ambient and
undergroud hardcore groups, are my main influences....Other artists I listen
to range from old alternative from the 90's to UK trance techno.....if there
is one thing in the music Biz that I hate.....it is COUNTRY!!!!!!  other than
that, I am pretty kewl with most music.....um.....I think I finished answering
all of the questions.....I am looking foward to hearing all the little goodies
about Moby.....later all

Fil




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #81
Date: 10 Feb 1998 15:04:20 EST

actually....i was in art class and i was drawing something...my friend had
just come back from the shore, and these people he met down there were
listening to Moby and he bought the move single and let me listen to it cos he
knew i was into dance music....that's when i fell in love....bye.



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From: "Ciccone, Nancy J." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) RE:
Date: 10 Feb 1998 15:15:00 -0500

I think that part of the problem might be that people just aren't around
to read the e-mails right when they get them, so the behind so to speak
and by the time the read the mail that says we don't want to here this
crap they've already put in their two cents.

That's just what I think happens some times.
 ----------

i agree that too much discussion of off-topic stuff has been going on
here...

I would like to suggest that it is perfectly reasonable for something
off
topic to ARISE from something relevant to Moby.  However, if someone
wishes to continue discussion, why can't they just write to the other
people who mention it as well?  I understand that a few messages must
come
up on the list first, but once it is understood that a large number of
the
readers are fed up with the topic, please be kind and discuss it outside
the confines of the list.  Puffy and MTV would be perfect examples of
something to try this with.

Thank you for taking the time to read this, and i hope it helps.


****************************************************************
Your parents always told you:    |    What they meant was:
                |
Early to bed,            |    Early to rise,
  Early to rise,        |      Early to bed,
Makes a man healthy,        |    Makes a man healthy,
  Wealthy, and wise.        |      But socially dead.

REMEMBER THESE WORDS
****************************************************************

"We must be careful to never try so hard for something that we
         forget what it is that we are trying for."

            Little Drummer Boy
            [e-mail]




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From: "Rekkit" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Fashionably Loud
Date: 10 Feb 1998 15:41:40 -0800


>ya know what sucks? the fact that, on ALL the adverts for "FL," they
>NEVER mentioned fatboy slim, and he is BY FAR the most talented person on
>the entire show. once again, MTV shows its true face and bites itself in


You forget Death In Vegas who are of course, far more talented than Mr. Cook
(whom I also enjoy) ;)

BTW-If anybody has a copy of Fashionably Loud on video please E-Mail me
personally at [e-mail]
Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page:
http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm





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From: "William Turner Spencer Iii" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) RE:
Date: 10 Feb 1998 15:46:23 -0500

It seems to me that talking about how puff and mtv are off the topic is
itself off the topic.

dreamANALYZER



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From: [e-mail]
Subject:  Re: (mobility) RE:
Date: 10 Feb 1998 16:02:21 EST

>It seems to me that talking about how puff and mtv are off the topic is
>itself off the topic.
>
>dreamANALYZER

I agree....what does Poofy Puff have to do with MOBY anyways?!?!?!?  let's get
over the Mtv thing and start some good ol' Moby conversations.....

Fil

P.S.-being my first comment ever on this Moby thingy, I would just like to say
I would LOVE to see Moby do a remix to the theme song of the Simpsons!!!!!!
Number one hit....yep....definitely gonna be a number one hit!!!!



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Re:so you went to 1st Ave too?!
Date: 10 Feb 1998 16:23:42 EST

Fil,
   * Hello*, I was excited to hear that you too, got the chance to see Moby in
Minnesota. I also was fortunate enough to head on down to "Fist Ave.", and see
him and Juno Reactor perform. I am from the Twin Cities, and I am a senior in
highschool here. I love MOby, and a lot of other artists (including the one
formerly known as Prince.) Other than listening to music, and going to
concerts, I keep busy with school, and just hanging out. There is not a lot to
do in the Twin Cities at this time of year (as you may already know), so fun
is limited. Hmmm.. on Chicago; I actually thought about going to Loyola next
year, but my dad is determined to not have me go to college in an urban
setting, I guess.... anyaways... e-mail me back and tell me what you thought
of the concert and MN in general... if you want...
~cheers~
Jessica



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  Re: (mobility) Bran Van
Date: 10 Feb 1998 16:38:07 EST

It's getting an americian rerelease I do believe..for a major label...or has
that already happened and that's what you are talking about..it's going to be
abit different<G> chhers



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From: Todd Huss <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) RE:
Date: 10 Feb 1998 17:57:42 -0500


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I would LOVE to see Moby do a remix to the theme song of the =
Simpsons!!!!!!>>>

Oooohhhh.. that WOULD be very cool, indeed.  I've always grooved on that =
little gingle.  How about the theme to "Inspector Gadget"? =20

Can anyone else think of any cool little jingles that they would like to =
hear Moby cover?  (I'm thinking in the vein of theme songs or commercial =
jingles.)

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) MP3 list
Date: 10 Feb 1998 17:48:02 EST

Hello everyone.  I have a offer for the list.  Everyone is talking about MP3
this and MP3 that.  Well, I decided to start a MP3 mailing list.  Every week a
new MP3 will arrive in your mailbox!!!  The MP3 will be mailed every Thurs.
This Thurs. will be Moby's version of Soundgarden's Dusty.  To Subscribe all
you have to do is email me at [e-mail] and tell me that you want in on
the list.  Coming up in the next couple of weeks:
Aerosmith's "Falling In Love Is Hard In The Knees"
Blur's "Beetlebum"
Metallica's "Until It Sleeps"
ALL mixed by Moby.
After a couple of weeks I'll take requests for Moby stuff.  I have almost
every song he has so there should be now problem in me finding any song.
Remember, you have 24 hours to delete the MP3 once you get it.  I hope this
service will make everyone :) (smile) :)
-Carmen B.
KOA MP3's




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From: Marjorana Karathanasis <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) RE:
Date: 10 Feb 1998 18:55:57 -0500 (EST)

how about the addams family??

--marji




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From: "Tracy Acuna" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) RE:
Date: 10 Feb 1998 19:13:32 -0500

LOL  :-)   i agree

     Emo
-----Original Message-----


>>It seems to me that talking about how puff and mtv are off the topic is
>>itself off the topic.
>>
>>dreamANALYZER
>
>I agree....what does Poofy Puff have to do with MOBY anyways?!?!?!?  let's
get
>over the Mtv thing and start some good ol' Moby conversations.....
>
>Fil
>
>P.S.-being my first comment ever on this Moby thingy, I would just like to
say
>I would LOVE to see Moby do a remix to the theme song of the Simpsons!!!!!!
>Number one hit....yep....definitely gonna be a number one hit!!!!
>




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) jingles
Date: 10 Feb 1998 21:10:38 EST

the Heathciff song would kick ass! That is such an awsome song.

dj tripp



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From: "Rekkit" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Drugs
Date: 10 Feb 1998 22:44:58 -0800

Hmm...
Ok-this is probably going to put me in several people's bad books but what
the hell...
I'll start by taking a look at some of my favorite artists:

nine inch nails, Moby, Spiritualized, DJ Shadow, Psychic TV, Coil & Death In
Vegas

All of them (IMHO) are extremely talented musicians/producers etc. and they
all seem to take great effort in over & under producing their music to
acheive certain effects.  Anyone who's gotten stoned and listened to Floyd
knows that one can realize a lot about what goes into a song in the right
frame of mind.
Last week I decided to give Moby a shot after indulging.  I listened to two
cd's I'd compiled myself consisting of early Instinct material up to the
latest rock & Trophy stuff.  I've got to say that it really left me cold.
I'd expected *so* much more, because as I'm sure we all do I love Moby's
work.  Obviously band's like Spiritualized, Mercury Rev & DJ Shadow tailor
their work a little bit more to the drug crowd.  But people like nine inch
nails have such superlative 'finishing-touch' talent I'd hoped that Moby
would too.
Don't get me wrong, I still consider Moby to be possibly the most talented
single man in the industry; I just figured that someone who writes such
emotionally evocative (and sometimes draining) music would produce a more
textured product.
Unless anyone knows different I'll assume it's due to his lack of interest
in the drug scene.

Anyway, I'd love to hear thoughts/rants/tirades/agreements etc. on this.
(and please, I don't want *1* person telling me that Puffy makes good drug
music ;)

Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page:
http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm





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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Bran Van
Date: 10 Feb 1998 23:08:22 EST

I just saw this video today. Phat video. Sounds very cool. Any other info on
the album?



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) hey!! this doesnt involve puffy, whoohoo. fatboy slim is in he...
Date: 10 Feb 1998 23:08:19 EST

> anyways, to add some moby content, i guess this shows that old songs can be
> redone well.  sometimes.  but puffy?  man, all his songs are inferior to
> the originals.  and remember that crappy ska cover of come on eileen that
> came out a while ago?  the dexy's midnite runners original version was so
> much better.
I agree with puffy.  Since the first time I heard him ("Can't Nobody Hold Me
Down") I thought he totally sucked. Mase sucks too. The only good artist on
that label is B.I.G. who at least had some talent and originality. Personally
rap wise I have the most respect for the Wu-Tang Clan. Rza is basically the
moby of hip-hop original, groundbreaking, and innovative.

But I like that ska-cover. It's by Save Ferris and that's a pretty cool album.

io



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From: [e-mail] (Ryan Taylor)
Subject: Re: (mobility) Drugs
Date: 10 Feb 1998 21:49:29 -0500

>Hmm...
>Ok-this is probably going to put me in several people's bad books but what
>the hell...

Nahh..I doubt it...Who's to say what and what isn't a "drug".  As
Consolidated put it in "Stoned":  America you know you're so stoned.  Stoned
on television, music, and print.  Stoned on alcohol, religion, and drugs.
Terms like freedom and democracy.  Stoned on violence and a war economy.
Stoned on a nation's addiction to meat.  Stoned on a nation's addiction to
oil.  America is based out of it's mind."

>Unless anyone knows different I'll assume it's due to his lack of interest
>in the drug scene.

Well..I'm going to assume he does have a lack of interest..I'll quote from
the liner notes from Next Is The E(Instinct):  Upon hearing "Next Is The E",
many people make the assumption that this song is about drug use.  The truth
is that I disapprove of the irresponsible use of drugs.  I've seen far too
many lives damaged from drug use to even consider glorifying drugs in a
song.  - Moby.

Now what he considers irresponsible use..I don't know..but it'd seem to me
that he'd be against making his beats tailor made for drug use.

Ryan
np:  The Herbaliser:  "Blow Your Headphones"  (Note:  If you haven't got
this cd yet..GET IT!!  Another great album from the Ninja Crew :) )

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"Who said tyranny can't be fun?" -Consolidated
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) internet radio
Date: 10 Feb 1998 23:55:42 -0600 (CST)

hey everybody, i found aa nifty little internet radio station (for those of you
who like them).  they are really good about getting requests into the playlist
and they just played 2 moby songs in a row!  (i railed on them last week to get
moby into the playlist.  they even asked for suggestions on what to play!)  i
highly suggest you check it out if you have the real player!

www.3wk.com

make more moby requests!

andy

gingerbread man

"run, run, as fast as you can,
    you can't catch me, I'm the gingerbread man!"



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From: Ryu <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Drugs
Date: 11 Feb 1998 01:11:44 -0500

>nine inch nails, Moby, Spiritualized, DJ Shadow, Psychic TV, Coil & Death In
>Vegas
>
>All of them (IMHO) are extremely talented musicians/producers etc. and they
>all seem to take great effort in over & under producing their music to
>acheive certain effects.  Anyone who's gotten stoned and listened to Floyd
>knows that one can realize a lot about what goes into a song in the right
>frame of mind.
>Last week I decided to give Moby a shot after indulging.
>I just figured that someone who writes such
>emotionally evocative (and sometimes draining) music would produce a more
>textured product.

this is an interesting subject!
i'd say that the reason that moby's music doesn't sound as inspiring under
the influence is because of the artists you mentioned above, he's the least
likely to record music while on drugs.
i KNOW that spriritualized, shadow, ptv, and coil are large supporters of
substances in general,,,and i'd be willing to bet that reznor and death in
vegas are supporters as well.

but moby is not really into drugs too much, and i'd be willing to bet that
he records with a chemically free mind.  his music probably sounds
dry when you're not.

any other ideas here?

love,
ryu

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 My name is Ryu.  I make hard emotional
 electronic music.  To hear some, get cds,
   and see stuff, go to my homepage at:
http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 Ryu  |  [e-mail]  |  814-867-0756
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++




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From: but not _the_ frankz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Drugs
Date: 11 Feb 1998 01:02:59 -0700

At 10:44 PM 2/10/98 -0800, you wrote:
>Hmm...
>Ok-this is probably going to put me in several people's bad books but what
>the hell...
>I'll start by taking a look at some of my favorite artists:
>
>nine inch nails, Moby, Spiritualized, DJ Shadow, Psychic TV, Coil & Death In
>Vegas

Sorry, i thought my English was pretty good,
but i dont understand a single word of this,
WHAT is this man saying? Can someone explain?
(because i THINK i like to comment on it...)

(Rekkit:)
>All of them (IMHO) are extremely talented musicians/producers etc. and they
>all seem to take great effort in over & under producing their music to
>acheive certain effects.  Anyone who's gotten stoned and listened to Floyd
>knows that one can realize a lot about what goes into a song in the right
>frame of mind.
>Last week I decided to give Moby a shot after indulging.  I listened to two
>cd's I'd compiled myself consisting of early Instinct material up to the
>latest rock & Trophy stuff.  I've got to say that it really left me cold.
>I'd expected *so* much more, because as I'm sure we all do I love Moby's
>work.  Obviously band's like Spiritualized, Mercury Rev & DJ Shadow tailor
>their work a little bit more to the drug crowd.  But people like nine inch
>nails have such superlative 'finishing-touch' talent I'd hoped that Moby
>would too.
>Don't get me wrong, I still consider Moby to be possibly the most talented
>single man in the industry; I just figured that someone who writes such
>emotionally evocative (and sometimes draining) music would produce a more
>textured product.
>Unless anyone knows different I'll assume it's due to his lack of interest
>in the drug scene.
>
>Anyway, I'd love to hear thoughts/rants/tirades/agreements etc. on this.
>(and please, I don't want *1* person telling me that Puffy makes good drug
>music ;)
>
>-------------------------------------------------------------------
>Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page:
>http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm
>
>
>
>


----------------------
Logic: the one thing that counts


http://home.wxs.nl/~til00003/




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From: Daniel Lee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Drugs
Date: 11 Feb 1998 01:12:24 -0800

Frank Z,

I understood Rekkit fine, and I think the subject is interesting, so lay
off the cynicism please?

Thanks.

Dan




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From: Dan Legare <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #83
Date: 11 Feb 1998 05:13:20 -0700

bonjour,

bran van comes from montreal (my hometown-check it out if you ever get the
chance-and re:moby in montreal, if i am not mistaken-if anyone can prove me
wrong-he has only played there once, in a disco/bar called metropolis; i
cannot confirm this, i was into pearl jam and nirvana making alternative
very marketable).
anyhow, bran van are a communal group-spanning 20 or so artists from around
the city and beyond. the cd was released last year to much praise, and yes
'beck' comes to mind, even though his apparent obnoxious attitude turned me
off for life. bran van can take a lot of keys from moby, and the
experimentation on that album could turn a lot of heads in the u.s.
remember bran van and as far as i know, the artwork will be different for
the american release. for the initial release in canada they took some
heavy-metal antics and blended them with cutesy cartoons, and the carry
case depicts a spiralling peice of sushi in the center. campy? yup.
do you guys think bands like this take themselves seriously? my only critic
of this band would be with such a diverse line up (such backgrounds as
soul, r&b, jazz, disco, punk rawk) should represent some multicultural
groups, however a song like 'drinking in l.a.' isn't representing anything
like that...don't get me wrong, playing devil's advocate (my favorite
pastime) i think the album is great ('cum on feel the noize', yeah!)

how about moby doing the theme to 'star wars' heck, if 'meco' could do it,
why not moby? sampling some of vader's breathing along with luke whining
could become yet another club staple (insert 'bizarre love triangle') or
how about moby doing yet another 'milking-a-dead-cow' remix of 'blue
monday'. sheesh the original rules. bar none.

been listening to move ep all night. yes. dig.

cheers,
danny

Dan Legare
Nettwerk Mail Order Department
[e-mail]
Nettwerk Productions-Box 330 1755 Robson St. Vancouver, BC V6G 2B5
PH-604.654.2929  FX-604.654.1993 [e-mail]
http://www.nettwerk.com








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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) moby remixing ?.....
Date: 11 Feb 1998 08:20:48 -0600 (CST)

ok, i don't know if it is because i just woke up or what, but i think moby
doing the theme to "the nanny"  would be both really weird and interesting.

i will see this later and probably shoot myself for it...

andy



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby remixing ?.....
Date: 11 Feb 1998 09:25:49 EST

Actually I think that a moby remix os prodigy and chemical brothers as well as
Depeche mode would be most rewarding and indeed stimulating..

What does everyone else think?

Theo



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From: "Ciccone, Nancy J." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby remixing ?.....
Date: 11 Feb 1998 09:49:00 -0500

I think that would be pretty cool.

What about PJ Harvey - I think that could be pretty wild!!
 ----------

Actually I think that a moby remix os prodigy and chemical brothers as
well as
Depeche mode would be most rewarding and indeed stimulating..

What does everyone else think?

Theo



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From: "William Turner Spencer Iii" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) RE:
Date: 11 Feb 1998 10:01:23 -0500

A remix of Inspector Gadget would be REALLY cool!



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From: "William Turner Spencer Iii" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby remixing ?.....
Date: 11 Feb 1998 10:06:40 -0500

yeah it would

dreamANALYZER



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From: Keith Forsythe <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) RE:
Date: 11 Feb 1998 09:10:47 -0600

now your talkin!
At 10:01 AM 2/11/98 -0500, you wrote:
>A remix of Inspector Gadget would be REALLY cool!
>
>
>
Keith Forsythe
[e-mail]
[e-mail]



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From: "Rekkit" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Drugs (Frankz)
Date: 11 Feb 1998 11:47:48 -0800

>Sorry, i thought my English was pretty good,
>but i dont understand a single word of this,
>WHAT is this man saying? Can someone explain?
>(because i THINK i like to comment on it...)


Ahh the irony of it all....
I can't explain it any more clearly than I did in my original post, sorry ;)
Perhaps if I translate it into But Not_The_Frankz english:

Drugs are for love
Love is for Frankz
With Love comes Moby
Until ever again we are not Loved so cheaply

;)
I kid 'cause I love....
Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page:
http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm





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From: "Rekkit" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby remixing ?.....
Date: 11 Feb 1998 11:50:14 -0800

>Actually I think that a moby remix os prodigy and chemical brothers as well
as
>Depeche mode would be most rewarding and indeed stimulating..
>What does everyone else think?


He already mixed a Prodigy song I believe.  Fairground or Playground edit or
some name like that.  It was a mix off of an Experience-era song....
I'd like to see him mix a slower Chemmies track, that'd be a good thing.....
Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page:
http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm





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From: Keith Forsythe <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Front 242
Date: 11 Feb 1998 10:57:40 -0600

Has anyone here got the Front 242 remix album that just campe out?  I'm an
old fan of theres and i was wondering if it was any good.
Keith Forsythe
[e-mail]
[e-mail]



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From: [e-mail] (Ryan Taylor)
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby remixing ?.....
Date: 11 Feb 1998 10:28:10 -0500

>He already mixed a Prodigy song I believe.  Fairground or Playground edit or
>some name like that.  It was a mix off of an Experience-era song....

Close but no cigar..Moby remixed Everybody In The Place(Dance Hall
Version)..There is a Fairground Mix of the same song..so I'll give you a
blue star for being so close :)  For those collectors that don't have this
mix..it's on the Charly/Everybody In The Place single...I'm pretty sure it's
readily available as I've seen it around.

And now my choice of what Moby should remix..It's a pretty twisted
choice..but why not have Moby remix Smart E's "Sesame's Treet"?!?! ;>  I
mean..Joey Beltram and Krome & Time remixed it..why shouldn't Moby?
BTW..don't ask me how I knew this ;>.  OR..how about he remixes the Alpha
Team's "Go, Speed Go" ;>  No..I'm not a masochist ;>.

Ryan
np:  Vernon Reid:  "Mistaken Identity"

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Homepage to come soon                                    ICQ#:  1607223

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"Who said tyranny can't be fun?" -Consolidated
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From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) bv3k, moby, lfo, etc.
Date: 11 Feb 1998 12:58:51 -0800 (PST)




I saw branvan on 12 angry viewers(note...don't on-list flame me but i
do like mtv)...turns out the cd glee is on Capital rec. now...woohoo.
I must own it...

Also, does anyone know anything about moby's
LFO remix? A few weeks ago, I saw the video for "We Are Back" on AMP
(MTV's techno show)...I thought the song was kinda kool, I like that
noizy abrasive techno, reminds me of a certain few AFX songs i
know...I heard he did a remix for them, but not that song...If anyone
knows anything about that remix or LFO, can u pleez tell me?

Also, does ne1 know anything about moby's brian eno remix? I know
that's pretty old too, but I like Eno and I wonder what a Moby remix
of him would b like...

The simpsons remix sounds awesome, considering my last name (and 1 of
my fave shows) is Simpsons. Maybe he should remix the South Park
theme. Soon, I heard, Sesame Street is gonna do something called
"Elmopalooza!"...with Shawn Colvin, Fugees, En Vogue...maybe Moby
could participate...

Probably the only bad thing about "AMP" is they never play Moby...they
do play some good old techno, and LOTS of Orbital and FSOL, and they
just recently started playing Kevin Saunderson...but they've never
played Moby, which sux...but both Moby vids I have seen were on MTV
(JB, Rev.)

Next is E...In liners to Rare, it makes you believe the title was
changed because of remixing...that's not true right? It was because
they thought it was about drugs right?

I agree DEath In Vegas is better than FBSlim, all of u who don't have
Dead Elvis, it's a phat cd, it's the best 1 I bought so far this year...

ok bye....
lovepeaceandhamhockgrease

Ps i don't do drugs, so i wouldn't know...
==
>>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<<<
"If you lived here, you'd be home right now!!!"

_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com




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From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) tasos
Date: 11 Feb 1998 13:17:10 -0800 (PST)


i keep getting this mail from this tasos guy telling me to remove
mobility...will whoever you are stop telling me this?

I'm sorry if I'm annoying to ne1 here, but I have rights to comment my
opinions on this mailing list, like evry1 else...

my god...can't we all just get along?



==
>>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<<<
"If you lived here, you'd be home right now!!!"

_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com




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From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) FATBOY
Date: 11 Feb 1998 12:35:06 -0800 (PST)



I personally thought DEATH IN VEGAS was the best band at FASH LOuD 3
not FATBOY but i luv fatboy also, and cryst. meth.


==
>>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<<<
"If you lived here, you'd be home right now!!!"

_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com




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From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) ONE LAST THING!!! (I promise...)
Date: 11 Feb 1998 13:40:16 -0800 (PST)


I found a branvan website..
<http://www.madmanmark.ml.org/branvan3000/>
I think...it's damn near official, it's very up to date...

to make up 4 all this spam, i wont mail the list for 10 days, how dat
sound?

oh yes, where does the next is the e sample come from? not the "I feel
it" one, but the "Next is the e" one? and what is he/she saying? or is
that just another unsolved mystery?

==
>>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<<<
"If you lived here, you'd be home right now!!!"

_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com




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From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) MY HP, viruses
Date: 11 Feb 1998 13:09:18 -0800 (PST)





Hey Mobilians (or whatever), go to my homepage at
<http://freezone.com/homes/c/Chembrodude/musicofthemonth.html>

If you haven't already...I updated it:more linx, guestbook, more
stuff...I'm not going to say this every time I update it, but it's
kinda nice, so you might wanna check it out...and bookmark it, I
update it 2-3 times a month...

Oh, if u hate hanson, i got a kewl pic you might want, and if u want
to spam someone with a stupid story about chain letters, I got those,
e-mail me for a forward...

Oh, if u ever see e-mails w/these subjs., don't open them they are
viruses:

        OPEN: VERY COOL :-)
        JOIN THE CREW
        RETURNED OR UNABLE TO DELIVERY
        GOOD TIMES
my mom works at a library, she gets all kind of notices like that...

just wanted to let u know...

I promise I won't spam u w/nemore non-moby crap unless its important..
==
>>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<<<
"If you lived here, you'd be home right now!!!"

_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com




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From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) oops..sorry
Date: 11 Feb 1998 13:28:51 -0800 (PST)


oops..sorry about that virus warning...i 4got that was against the
rule...

to make up..i'm also wondering does ne1 know where the "Have U seen my
baby" sample is from?
I just wonder...



==
>>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<<<
"If you lived here, you'd be home right now!!!"

_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com




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From: "Rekkit" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Front 242
Date: 11 Feb 1998 17:57:50 -0800

>Has anyone here got the Front 242 remix album that just campe out?  I'm an
>old fan of theres and i was wondering if it was any good.
>Keith Forsythe


Mutage Mixage has been out for over a year and a half, but it was released
domestically recently.  Is that the one?  (Orb, Underworld etc.)





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From: Scott Stegenga <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Front 242
Date: 11 Feb 1998 17:01:55 -0600

At 05:57 PM 2/11/98 -0800, you wrote:
>>Has anyone here got the Front 242 remix album that just campe out?  I'm an
>>old fan of theres and i was wondering if it was any good.

>Mutage Mixage has been out for over a year and a half, but it was released
>domestically recently.  Is that the one?  (Orb, Underworld etc.)

I also know that Front 242 and Cubanate have joined forces for a band called
C-Tec. Could this be what you're looking for?
Scott Steg
...I Love Carrots





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From: "pmc" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #83
Date: 12 Feb 1998 00:50:42 +0100

anybody please could write me lyrics of say it's all mine or let me know =
a site where i could find them?
thanx a lot, pmc



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) RE:
Date: 11 Feb 1998 20:32:27 -0500 (EST)

sanford and son, good times, the jeffersons complete with weizees voice in
the background vocals.....



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Sampling
Date: 12 Feb 1998 01:41:26 GMT

With all this talk of sampling, we can't forget to mention one of my favorite
bands. The Utah Saints and made up entirely of samples. Supposedly, they did
not make one noise themselves. I wish I knew what ever happened to them, but
they were great and never had one original sound.
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From: "Stuart Adair" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) New Blur remix?
Date: 12 Feb 1998 01:55:07 -0000

According to NME (http://www.nme.com/), Blur will soon be releasing a remix
album in the UK that had previously only been available in Japan, which
includes a remix of Beetlebum by Moby. Apparently, eight out of the nine
remixes will be exclusive to the album, with William Orbit's remix of Movin'
On being the only one to have been previously released. Now I'm sure that a
Moby remix of Beetlebum has already been released; does that mean that this
is a new one? Or have they got it wrong?

Stuart
_____________________
\_ .:stuart adair:. /___ :dubstar::moby::scrawn&lard::eddieizzard:| "i'm
 / / [e-mail]  \_________ :bigbeat:::interactivefiction:|  covered
/ / [e-mail] _) :terrypratchett::::drum&bass:|  in
\ \/\ c.floor homepage back up!  (_  /\ :zxspectrum::::fatboyslim:|  beees!"
 \__/ http://cfloor.home.ml.org [__)/  \_ :quake:kenickie:[frenzi]|   -(e.i)




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby remixing ?.....
Date: 11 Feb 1998 20:57:24 -0500 (EST)

i think he has already done prodigy and maybe chemical brothers.
am i wrong?
hell i don't know, maybe i drempt it. dreamed?
errgh.



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From: "Rekkit" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #83
Date: 11 Feb 1998 21:36:57 -0800

>anybody please could write me lyrics of say it's all mine or let me know a
site where i could find them?


Check out the Lyrics section of http://www.moby.org
If you find any errors please let me know-the document's still in a state of
flux (hell, I did it all in one night ;)
Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page:
http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm





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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) moby remixing
Date: 11 Feb 1998 22:04:15 EST

what if he remixed something epic like "the Battlestar Galactica " theme or
"Robotech"
that would be cool!

tripp



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) next is the E CDS for sale
Date: 11 Feb 1998 23:09:56 -0600 (CST)

i have the US CDS of next is the E for sale - 10$ including shipping to
whoever mails me first.  again, please do _not_ mail to the maillist.
i'll only accept requests to me personally.
one unfortunate note i must make about this CD is that the idiot who
previously owned this put their initials on the back of the inlay
right over moby's chin.  the CD's fine, though.
seeyuz...



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) everything is wrong remix 2xCD for sale
Date: 11 Feb 1998 23:26:05 -0600 (CST)

sorry i didn't combine this with the other message, but i forgot i had
it for sale.  anyway, i'll sell it for 20$ including shipping.  it's
in good condition, it's just that i think you can still get it from
mute for a decent price.  never been played, either, cos i accidentally
bought two and never got around to returning one.  anyway, it's the UK
pressing of the 2xCD remix album for everything is wrong - Mute records
XLCD STUMM 135.  please reply personally only.  thanks...

--
http://www.execpc.com/~danperry/index.html

FSOL eno AFX moby VANGELIS dF bjork PSB e dM NUO pg HoJo JJ CH tff TTwins/BABBLE
steve.roach vidna.obmana soulwhirlingsomewhere david.sylvian robert.fripp LSeeds



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) yikes... SOLD
Date: 11 Feb 1998 23:40:36 -0600 (CST)

both CDs are accounted for.  if something falls through i'll repost
their availability.  seeyuz...



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From: "john-->" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Sampling
Date: 05 Feb 1998 13:21:29 PST

word up- and although this has nothinng to do with anything- i thought =
i'd let you know that i think Utah Saints rock bootie!!! i don't know if =
they're still around or not- the last time i saw them was on amp sometime=
 early last year-later-
            john--:)

----------
> With all this talk of sampling, we can't forget to mention one of my =
favorite
> bands. The Utah Saints and made up entirely of samples. Supposedly, the=
y did
> not make one noise themselves. I wish I knew what ever happened to them=
?





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From: Jonathan Ruano <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Drugs
Date: 12 Feb 1998 10:31:47 +0100

On Wed, Feb 11, 1998 at 01:11:44AM -0500, Ryu wrote:

Hi, Ryu:

> but moby is not really into drugs too much, and i'd be willing to bet that
> he records with a chemically free mind.  his music probably sounds
> dry when you're not.
>
> any other ideas here?
It's true that great genius in our History, created while being under
drug's influence or they were just going psychophrenic (sp?), but that
doesnt mean you *have to* be out of your mind to do great works. It
just change the way you see things.

This is my cent (from a person who have never tasted so-called "drugs").

Jonathan.

--
  512/781AF549 1997/11/26 Jonathan Ruano (low-sec) <[e-mail]>
      Key fingerprint = 7A 87 8E 82 50 82 1D 19  CD BE 3E 20 FA 80 6F 8F
           For more bits, browse http://www.encomix.es/users/jonah/



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From: Jonathan Ruano <[e-mail]>
Subject: Offtopic: Bran Van "Glee" (was Re: (mobility) bv3k, moby, lfo, etc.)
Date: 12 Feb 1998 10:38:09 +0100

On Wed, Feb 11, 1998 at 12:58:51PM -0800, Paul Simpson wrote:

> I saw branvan on 12 angry viewers(note...don't on-list flame me but i
> do like mtv)...turns out the cd glee is on Capital rec. now...woohoo.
> I must own it...
The CD appears as to be released on March 10th (at least that's what
I found looking it up on http://massmusic.com)

Jonathan.

--
  512/781AF549 1997/11/26 Jonathan Ruano (low-sec) <[e-mail]>
      Key fingerprint = 7A 87 8E 82 50 82 1D 19  CD BE 3E 20 FA 80 6F 8F
           For more bits, browse http://www.encomix.es/users/jonah/



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From: Brian Ruh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby remixing
Date: 12 Feb 1998 09:26:09 -0500 (EST)

>
> what if he remixed something epic like "the Battlestar Galactica " theme or
> "Robotech"
> that would be cool!
>
> tripp

Yes! Moby and Robotech! That would be just so very awesome.

Peace,
Brian





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From: "William Turner Spencer Iii" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Front 242
Date: 12 Feb 1998 10:41:54 -0500

Yeah, just last night on the radio I heard C-Tech.  They're pretty cool.

dreamANALYZER



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From: "William Turner Spencer Iii" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Sampling
Date: 12 Feb 1998 10:43:32 -0500

Yeah, I heard the Utah Saints on my Mortal Kombat album, tried looking for
them, but couldn't find 'em.  Whatever happened to them?

dreamANALYZER



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From: [e-mail] (sarah j mamott)
Subject: (mobility) re:mobility- one-liners
Date: 12 Feb 1998 12:00:46 EST

hi.. i don't mean to start a fight here. .. i know i don't even post too
much. .. but i just want to comment... i didn't check my mail yesterday,
and when i opened it today, there were 78 messages.. most of which were
from mobility, which is usually great bc i love to read the posts.. but
about 1/2 of them were one-liners agreeing with someone else's post.. ex:
one post would be "moby should remix so- and- so,"  and then there would
be 3 or 4 replies that just said "yeah" or "awesome!",. .. i mean.. do
you really need to post those ? maybe i'm mistaken but i don't think most
of us like 25 messages that just say "yeah" or "you're right", ,, i mean,
at least add *something*. .. same thing goes for the whole puffy-debate..
if that wasn't annoying enough, 1/2 of the posts were just "i agree with
<insert member's name>, .. let's try to keep mobility interesting and not
like some newsgroup, okay ?  thanks for reading this. ..  sarah
"It occurs to me that I am America.
I am talking to myself again." -Allen Ginsberg

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From: but not _the_ frankz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Drugs
Date: 12 Feb 1998 19:14:28 +0100

At 10:31 AM 2/12/98 +0100, you wrote:
>On Wed, Feb 11, 1998 at 01:11:44AM -0500, Ryu wrote:
>
>Hi, Ryu:
>
>> but moby is not really into drugs too much, and i'd be willing to bet that
>> he records with a chemically free mind.  his music probably sounds
>> dry when you're not.
>>
>> any other ideas here?
>It's true that great genius in our History, created while being under
>drug's influence or they were just going psychophrenic (sp?), but that
>doesnt mean you *have to* be out of your mind to do great works. It
>just change the way you see things.
>
>This is my cent (from a person who have never tasted so-called "drugs").
>
>Jonathan.

I agree with this,
hey!
finally i agree with two members at the same time!

and Frank said:
"Smoke yor little smoke,
  drink yor little drink,
 and   d  a  n  c  e    the night away!"


----------------------
Logic: the one thing that counts


http://home.wxs.nl/~til00003/




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Sampling
Date: 12 Feb 1998 19:42:18 GMT

Well Ryu told me they were going to release a 2CD set which got cut to a one CD
and finally that was cut and it never got released. But he said there was on
single they released: OHIO. So, I went on a crusade to find this single. I
found it on one compilation CD from CDNOW and I found two copies of it,
unfortunately only in vinyl, at CDEurope. If anyone has any idea where I can
pick up a copy of Ohio for CD, I will pay you loot if you can get it for me.
And to make this a relevent Moby Post, I would recomend getting the more common
CDs from an online place in case you can't find them where you live. But, my
question is this:

Has anyone every bought anything from Everycd (1-800-EVERYCD)? They claim to be
able to get anything legally released in America, and I just wanted to know if
they are reliable? Thanks.
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From: Scott Stegenga <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) CD Stores Online for Moby
Date: 12 Feb 1998 13:54:07 -0600

>And to make this a relevent Moby Post, I would recomend getting the more
>common CDs from an online place in case you can't find them where you live.

I found this cool online CD store called "Cheap or What CD's"

http://www.cow.co.uk

They're based in the UK and with shipping and handling, you may pay less for
a CD than with CDNow or Music Blvd. They also have alot in stock. I tried
purchasing some PiL and Cure Import-only CD's from CDNow and it took them 4
weeks just to tell me that they couldn't fulfill my order. I went to COW and
it took a few days to send the package. A cool site. Very basic in structure
and the Moby selection is vast.

One other thing, they can calculate the price in other currencies as well.
Neat idea.

Scott Steg
...I Love Carrots





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From: Brian Ruh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) re:mobility- one-liners
Date: 12 Feb 1998 14:55:34 -0500 (EST)

>
> hi.. i don't mean to start a fight here. .. i know i don't even post too
> much. .. but i just want to comment... i didn't check my mail yesterday,
> and when i opened it today, there were 78 messages.. most of which were
> from mobility, which is usually great bc i love to read the posts.. but
> about 1/2 of them were one-liners agreeing with someone else's post.. ex:
> one post would be "moby should remix so- and- so,"  and then there would
> be 3 or 4 replies that just said "yeah" or "awesome!",. .. i mean.. do
> you really need to post those ? maybe i'm mistaken but i don't think most
> of us like 25 messages that just say "yeah" or "you're right", ,, i mean,
> at least add *something*. .. same thing goes for the whole puffy-debate..
> if that wasn't annoying enough, 1/2 of the posts were just "i agree with
> <insert member's name>, .. let's try to keep mobility interesting and not
> like some newsgroup, okay ?  thanks for reading this. ..  sarah

Sorry. You're right!.... :)

Peace,
Brian





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From: "RYAN GOSSETT" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) senseless soundtrack
Date: 12 Feb 1998 12:48:06 PST

Has anybody heard the Moby track on the senseless soundtrack?
I here it is a never before released song.  I'm really wondering what
genre of Moby song it is (not that it really matters, just curious)
If the rest of the album is any good would be helpful also.
Thanx
Ryan

"Do or do not.  There is no try."  (Yoda, circa 1980)


______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com



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From: "William Turner Spencer Iii" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) re:mobility- one-liners
Date: 12 Feb 1998 16:08:57 -0500

i agree



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From: Damian <[e-mail]>
Subject: ADMIN MESSAGE - Please Read!  [Re: (mobility) one-liners]
Date: 12 Feb 1998 15:41:46 -0700

this guy & this guy wrote:
>
> i agree
--
> Sorry. You're right!.... :)


Okay, enough!!!

I've had a bad day & I'm ready to take it out on someone.  What Sarah
said made perfect sense and I appreciate her pointing it out.  It's
something that I should have done because it has been bothering me too.
I have always been a strong believer in low noise tolerance  - meaning I
prefer quality in an email rather than the abundance of it.

If you agree with something and feel you must tell someone... then tell
the person who sent the email!  Give them your support and let them
know.  Otherwise expand on it and make your response worthwhile to all
those who read it.

I am going to start un subscribing members who can't get a clue when it
comes to posting e-mail to a list that consists of more than 200
subscribers.

If anyone has a problem with this then I suggest you bring it up to me.

--
[e-mail]
[e-mail]
http://www.xmission.com/~damian/mobility.html



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) while i'm at it... more for sale
Date: 12 Feb 1998 17:04:21 -0600 (CST)

all prices include shipping.  again, please reply personally to reduce
noise on the list.  thanks...

moby:
  5$ brian eno: fractal zoom
        DE CD warner bros. W0116CD
this CD has the naive mix 1 by moby.  the US CD has many more remixes by
moby, so this is pretty much for a devout collector only unless you can't
find the US CDS for fractal zoom.

 10$ shamen: LSI [love-sex-intelligence]
        AT CD rough trade RTD 130.1384.3
this has make it mine (US dub mix) by moby on it.

i'll sell them both together for 13$.


other CDs available, too, but not moby related.
check out my website for more.

--
http://www.execpc.com/~danperry/index.html

FSOL eno AFX moby VANGELIS dF bjork PSB e dM NUO pg HoJo JJ CH tff TTwins/BABBLE
steve.roach vidna.obmana soulwhirlingsomewhere david.sylvian robert.fripp LSeeds



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From: John Turpin <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) MY HP, viruses
Date: 12 Feb 1998 16:38:49 -0600

>Oh, if u ever see e-mails w/these subjs., don't open them they are
>viruses:
>
>        OPEN: VERY COOL :-)
>        JOIN THE CREW
>        RETURNED OR UNABLE TO DELIVERY
>        GOOD TIMES
>my mom works at a library, she gets all kind of notices like that...

There is no such thing as an e-mail virus.

<http://www.usit.net/public/lesjones/goodtimes.html>

--
    C        The C.O.D.         John Turpin
    |                <jct1@
   / \                Ra.MsState.Edu>
  O   D    <http://www2.msstate.edu/~jct1/cod/>





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From: George N Xanthopoulos <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby remixing ?.....
Date: 12 Feb 1998 19:30:05 -0500 (EST)

a moby remix of depeche mode would definately be most excellent. he
already remixed prodigy, way back with the charly e.p. off the prodigy
experience. i believe it's the "dance-hall remix" of everybody in the
place. it's really good--a little dated, but still good. check it out.


have fun.
-gx




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From: but not _the_ frankz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: ADMIN MESSAGE - Please Read!  [Re: (mobility) one-liners]
Date: 12 Feb 1998 23:54:29 -0700

At 03:41 PM 2/12/98 -0700, you wrote:
>this guy & this guy wrote:
>>
>> i agree
>--
>> Sorry. You're right!.... :)
>
>
>Okay, enough!!!
>
>I've had a bad day & I'm ready to take it out on someone.  What Sarah
>said made perfect sense
>I am going to start un subscribing members who can't get a clue when it
>comes to posting e-mail to a list that consists of more than 200
>subscribers.
>
>If anyone has a problem with this then I suggest you bring it up to me.
>
>--
>[e-mail]

Damian,
never seen you so mad...
I totally agree, but one consideration:
Could it be that there are a number of subscribers who are young people 16,
17 years old and very active on the Net and they might just discover the
enormous fastness and possibilities of the Net... (something you already got
tired of maybe.... i dunno)
but I mean,
let's all try to be a little considerate.... we're not in school here ye know...
(the Delete-button is that little green bucket in the left top corner of
your screen)

Did you folks already notice that I haven't cursed this whole year???
That's ALL because of Mobility,
and Mobility is you! .... and you & you & you & you....!

peace


----------------------
Logic: the one thing that counts


http://home.wxs.nl/~til00003/




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From: Mark Reed <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby remixing
Date: 12 Feb 1998 04:03:28 +0000

>
>Yes! Moby and Robotech! That would be just so very awesome.
>

Why not just ask Moby to release a CD of his greatest remixes?
I mean the Orb did it..

--
Mark Reed



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) senseless soundtrack
Date: 13 Feb 1998 05:49:36 EST

The Moby song on the Senseless soundtrack is awesome!  It's called 'Garciosa'.
It's like 'Oil 1' or 'Go' in a way.  It starts out a little slow then it
sounds like the Moby we all know and love.  The soundtrack has Crystal Method,
Fluke, and, Fat Boy Slim on it too.  Most of the other songs are rap and r&b
but it's worth it just for the Moby song.  Let me know what you think...

Sunfire647



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From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: ADMIN MESSAGE - Please Read!  [Re: (mobility) one-liners]
Date: 13 Feb 1998 10:05:25 -0700

it was said:
> Could it be that there are a number of subscribers who are young people=
 16,
> 17 years old and very active on the Net and they might just discover th=
e
> enormous fastness and possibilities of the Net... (something you alread=
y got
> tired of maybe.... i dunno)

Come on!

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to be courteous and see that sending
"me too" messages, unnecessarily quoting entire messages sigs and all,
and going on about completely off-topic things despite the justifiable
protests of other list members is both stupid and rude.  This list has
a few rules, which are reasonable and should be followed.  Damian is
especially patient and longsuffering with the flagrant violations that
turn this sometimes great list into so much noise.  It's no fun to have
to tell someone to stop sending trash messages to the list, and Damian
does so reluctantly.

I would rather have 2 or 5 messages a day that have something to do with
Moby than 18 content-free postings.  It is lamentable that hordes of
people are driven onto the net by schools and TV commercials without
being instructed or caring to find out how to use it.  Sure, there is
a learning curve, and posting guidelines don't always need to be adhered
to rigidly, but telling clueful people to shut up and press the delete
key just adds insult to injury.

Trust me, we are not some anal-retentive old email nazis.  Things just
work better when netiquette is followed.

Mobility is a pretty flexible list.  I didn't mind the first couple
messages about Puffy, relating his use of sampling to Moby's, but
obviously three days of "Puffy has no talent", "No, Puffy is great!"
messages take their toll on the quality of this list.  This list is
about Moby, not music in general, not random artists, etc. so let's
just try not to encourage acceptable little off-topic aberrations to
snowball into an avalanche of electrobung.

That's my 2=A2.  Thanks.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: ADMIN MESSAGE - Please Read!  [Re: (mobility) one-liners]
Date: 13 Feb 1998 18:18:23 GMT

Before this conversation starts pissing people off as well, I just want to say
that I see blaming this Puffy incident and everything else on 16 and 17 year
olds a little harsh. I am only 17, but have the desency to be courteous. Kids
are smart, and many are educated. There are plenty of psyco adults runnig
around, hell, the newspaper is full of them. It is the ignorant poorly manner
people, kids and adults alike, who are doing this. And the truth is that the
under 18 generation probably has a better awareness for the internet than the
over 18 generation. Maybe they ometimes act immature, but it least they have a
reason. Besides, alot of the Techno group is around that age, although, for
many, it is only a phase like Rap and R&B. Later.
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From: "Dennis Daniels" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Sampling
Date: 13 Feb 1998 16:19:18 -0600

               2 things: First of all, the only song I've heard by the Utah
Saints was a song I heard on the radio that was recorded with Kate Bush
(queen of female singers). Does anybody know the name of this?
I love this song and need to hear it again.
               Second, I think Moby would do a great remix of the X-Files
theme. He could also remix Orbital's "The Saint". (one of my favorite
all-time songs.)

         D.


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Cc: [e-mail]

With all this talk of sampling, we can't forget to mention one of my
favorite
bands. The Utah Saints and made up entirely of samples. Supposedly, they
did
not make one noise themselves. I wish I knew what ever happened to them,
but
they were great and never had one original sound.
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Sampling
Date: 13 Feb 1998 22:34:39 GMT

The song is "Something Good." It is not the best Saint song, but it is good,
like the rest of the CD. Also, that is the only other Utah Saints CD I have and
that is a Good single.
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From: Keith Forsythe <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Front 242
Date: 13 Feb 1998 18:49:03 -0600

Yeah, is it any good?
At 05:57 PM 2/11/98 -0800, you wrote:
>>Has anyone here got the Front 242 remix album that just campe out?  I'm an
>>old fan of theres and i was wondering if it was any good.
>>Keith Forsythe
>
>
>Mutage Mixage has been out for over a year and a half, but it was released
>domestically recently.  Is that the one?  (Orb, Underworld etc.)
>
>
>
>
>
Keith Forsythe
[e-mail]
[e-mail]



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Moby mp3's
Date: 13 Feb 1998 14:50:25 +0000

Did the people who wanted to receive the weekly Moby mp3 get them?
I never got mine
Thanks
RT



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby mp3's
Date: 13 Feb 1998 22:05:48 EST

i got my mp3



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From: "Evil Ninja" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) RE:
Date: 13 Feb 1998 19:43:28 PST


>Can anyone else think of any cool little jingles that they would like
to =
>hear Moby cover?  (I'm thinking in the vein of theme songs or
commercial =
>jingles.)
>
>Todd  Huss
>
>
yeah i was thinking the X-files theme .

evil ninja
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From: "Evil Ninja" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) RE:
Date: 13 Feb 1998 19:46:27 PST


>Can anyone else think of any cool little jingles that they would like
to =
>hear Moby cover?  (I'm thinking in the vein of theme songs or
commercial =
>jingles.)
>
>Todd  Huss
>
>
yeah i was thinking the X-files theme .

evil ninja
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From: Furball <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby mp3's
Date: 13 Feb 1998 23:28:46 -0600 (CST)

At 10:05 PM 2/13/98 EST, you wrote:
>i got my mp3

To comphensate for this lack of post, I also requested the Moby MP3 of the
week, and never recieved anything. As a matter of fact I also contacted
Carmen on several other manners, which I got vague, indirect answers to. The
person you want to mail on this subject is [e-mail]. Bug the hell out
of him. :)

On another note, finally picked up Ambient and Early Underground today.
Noticed Moby "borrowed" many parts from songs released under his surnames
for remixes (UHF3 to the Club Mix of "Next is The E", anyone?). While in
some cases I don't mind it, I'd like to know if most of this came under
pressure from Instinct, rather than Moby being too lazy to properly remix a
track...

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) mail
Date: 14 Feb 1998 04:41:30 EST

name: Kaysee

age: 14

collection: Everything is Wrong, Go, forget the name of the last one

first heard:  cousin, long time ago

favorite artists: u zic, squarepusher



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From: "Brad Caviness" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby mp3's
Date: 14 Feb 1998 10:07:46 -0600


-----Original Message-----
>Noticed Moby "borrowed" many parts from songs released under his surnames
>for remixes (UHF3 to the Club Mix of "Next is The E", anyone?). While in
>some cases I don't mind it, I'd like to know if most of this came under
>pressure from Instinct, rather than Moby being too lazy to properly remix a
>track...
>
I don't think Instinct had much to do with it, as Moby has continued the
practice. Alone on Animal Rights uses the same chord progression as Great
Lake on End of Everything and Dead City from Little Idiot. Blue Light of the
Underwater Sun uses parts of Ul He Fu, etc. and etc. So I vote for laziness.

BSC




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From: "Rekkit" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Senseless
Date: 14 Feb 1998 17:57:41 -0800

Have we already discussed the Senseless soundtrack?
I think so...hmm...Anyway, I listened to the Moby track today and it sounds
like a minor remix of First Cool Hive; Moby's past couple of tracks have
been rather weak-I really hope he's not stagnating....
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From: Furball <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Senseless
Date: 14 Feb 1998 17:42:36 -0600 (CST)

At 05:57 PM 2/14/98 -0800, you wrote:
>Have we already discussed the Senseless soundtrack?
>I think so...hmm...Anyway, I listened to the Moby track today and it sounds
>like a minor remix of First Cool Hive; Moby's past couple of tracks have
>been rather weak-I really hope he's not stagnating....

On this subject, I'd like to bring up another point; can anyone encode this
track in MP3? I'd rather not spend $12 on a CD which includes many tracks I
already own on other CDs...anyone up for the task?

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From: "pmc" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) lyrics
Date: 15 Feb 1998 01:08:19 +0100

please, could anybody write me or give me a site where i could find =
lyricks of say it's all mine?



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From: "Evil Ninja" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) lyrics
Date: 14 Feb 1998 16:50:26 PST


>
>please, could anybody write me or give me a site where i could find =
>lyricks of say it's all mine?
>
>
i don't know if these are right but they are close i did not write these
myself i downloaded a file of abunch moby lyrics idont know whose page
it was but i give credit to those who made it

-----------
Say It's All Mine

Well I know it's over
Like a waste of mind
Well I know it's side ball
I can't seem to find
Like a  waste of someone
Like a wasted home
Well I know it's over
I know it's over long
Did you ever slip inside my ozone
I saw it in my eyes
Ever slip into me baby?
And I know it's mine
I gotta say it's all mine
With so low
Well I know it's not mine
With so much
Well I say it's all mine
With so low
And I know it's not mine
Well it's solace baby
I saw the face of mine
You took my hand and held on
For the longest time
I was always looking to be the one for you
It could have been so perfect
If I still lied at you
And I want to scream inside you no-one
Did you ever look at me
I saw a place where I was open
Now it will die mine
I gotta say it's all mine
When no man
When I know it's not mine
With so much
When I'm faking the lies
With so low
I gotta say it's all mine
Gotta say it's all mine
Wanna say it's all mine
Gonna say it's all mine
It was so good
It was so good
It was so good
It was so good
It was so good
It was so good
It was so mine
I gotta say it's all mine
With so low
When I know it's not mine
It's over
And I can face it no lie
With so much
Well I know it's not mine
With so low
I know it's not mine
With so much
I gotta face it's a lie
With so low
I know it's not mine
With so far
I gotta place it's a lie
It was so good
So good
Say it's so good
Say it's so good
Say it's so good
Say it's so good
Say it's so good

just out to help another M O B Y fan we kick ass



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From: Marjorana Karathanasis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) CD Stores Online for Moby
Date: 15 Feb 1998 12:25:46 -0500 (EST)

has anyone ever heard of Sven Vath?  there's a disc by Sven Vath/Moby
called MixMag Vol. 2 on an online Cd company.  Does anyone know if this is
indeed moby and/or is it any good?

--marjorana

ps--the company is Advance Import Music mail order (Canada)




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From: "Rekkit" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) lyrics
Date: 15 Feb 1998 12:16:01 -0800



>please, could anybody write me or give me a site where i could find lyricks
of say it's all mine?


The lyrics section of www.moby.org

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) CD Stores Online for Moby
Date: 15 Feb 1998 12:55:00 EST

In a message dated 98-02-15 12:27:29 EST, you write:

<< has anyone ever heard of Sven Vath?  there's a disc by Sven Vath/Moby
 called MixMag Vol. 2 on an online Cd company.  Does anyone know if this is
 indeed moby and/or is it any good? >>

sven vath is a wonderful trance dj from over in the uk.  supposedly he is a
god over there, but that is going by the liner notes in the cd.  as far as the
moby portion of the cd, yes in fact it is moby.  the music tends to fall a
little more on the ambient side but not conclusively.  a good number of the
songs he plays on the cd are not available on his more readily available cds.
worth buying
jeff



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From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) CD Stores Online for Moby
Date: 15 Feb 1998 11:23:01 -0700

Marjorana Karathanasis wrote:
> has anyone ever heard of Sven Vath?  there's a disc by Sven Vath/Moby
> called MixMag Vol. 2 on an online Cd company.  Does anyone know if this is
> indeed moby and/or is it any good?

It's a nice mixed CD.  The first half is DJed by Sven Vath (known
for his trance hit "An Accident In Paradise", among other things) and
the second half is DJed by Moby.  They spin other people's songs, and
throw in some of their own.  The CD has a somewhat relaxing trance/
house feeling.

Moby has three of his own songs in the mix:  "C3 Bells", "Go
(Subliminal Mix)", and "Next Is The E (Intro Mix)".  "C3 Bells" is
a previously unreleased remix of "Myopia", with a canned beat from
the EYTM remix competition samples thrown in.  "Next Is The E (Intro
Mix)", which is actually used as an outtro to this CD, is a nice
short semi-ambient take on the beautiful song, with pretty piano
sprinkles over synth strings.

MixMag Vol. 2 is a nice CD to listen to, but it's not likely to be
one that you'll play all the time.

Daniel Cerman
http://www.moby.org/



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) lyrics
Date: 15 Feb 1998 15:19:37 EST

WHEN YOU GET THE LYRICS TO SAY ITS ALL MINE COULD YOU PLEASE SENT THEM TO ME,
ID REALLY APPRECIATE IT.


"WISH THERE WAS SOMETHING REAL
WISH THERE WAS SOMETHING TRUE
WISH THERE WAS SOMETHING REAL IN THIS WORLD FULL OF YOU"
(I WANT TRENT REZNOR)
NINE INCH NAILS




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) CD Stores Online for Moby
Date: 15 Feb 1998 15:22:09 EST

MIXMAG VOL, 2 IS THE REAL MOBY(THE ONE WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT) AND SVEN VATH.
SVEN VATH IS LIKE THE BEST TECHNO GUY FROM FRANCE AND HE IS PRETTY GOOD.  THE
CD IS ALSO A GOOD ONE, IT HAS COOL SONGS FROM BOTH ARTISTS.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) UHF to N.I.T.E.(next is the e)
Date: 15 Feb 1998 18:03:48 EST

I think at the time Moby just probably liked that chord progression, i've done
that with a few of my tracks. Moby has also done recent songs which are named
differently but basicly are the same songs. I wouldn't hold it against him. I
just consider it a progression of the original and leave it at that.

dj tripp

p.s. i love the fact that next is the e turns into N.I.T.E.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  Re: (mobility) CD Stores Online for Moby
Date: 15 Feb 1998 18:24:01 EST

Hey marjorana

I have seen that CD before and all I can tell you is that it is a recording of
one of Moby's concerts...Sven Vath is some other artist that they used....they
(MixMag) generally keeps there live albums within two artists....so I so, if
you like it, go for it....

Fil



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Moby & Speed Garage
Date: 15 Feb 1998 20:17:48 +0000

What does everybody think about this new style of house
known as speed garage? I think the warped bass line sounds
are just irresistable and give off a nice underground vibe.
Does anyone think Moby will incorporate this style into his
music for his new album? I personally don't think he will
but it would be interesting.
RT



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From: [e-mail] (sarah j mamott)
Subject: Re: (mobility) lyrics
Date: 15 Feb 1998 21:32:10 EST

On Sun, 15 Feb 1998 15:19:37 EST [e-mail] writes:
>WHEN YOU GET THE LYRICS TO SAY ITS ALL MINE COULD YOU PLEASE SENT THEM
>TO ME,
>ID REALLY APPRECIATE IT.


yo yo yo:

has anyone else noticed. . when you ask about lyrics. . .the answer is
always "go to www.moby.org". . .always. . .no matter what song. . . so
you don't need to ask anymore, OK?

    s.

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From: "Pedersen, Trond Erik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby & Speed Garage
Date: 16 Feb 1998 07:28:00 +0100

I fell totally for speed garage when I first heard it. From my point of
view I don't think SG is very inovative tho'. It mostly is
"light-jungle" and early drum'n'bass inspired music adapted more to the
dancefloor than the two mentioned. Very cool and impossible to sit still
and listen to... you just hafta move to it.

I do not believe that Moby will turn this way, unless he is in a really
experimental-remix-state-of-mind sometime. However, it had been mostly
appreciated by this guy to see Moby turning this way. I believe that
Moby will turn more into "acoustic"/guitar based music with old-school
techno beats and also some trance/ambient inspired tracks.

BTW, anyone know what Moby thinks of Jungle, D&B, SG and similar styles
of music?
Could be awsome to see him turn this way, rite?

Trond.

>What does everybody think about this new style of house
>known as speed garage? I think the warped bass line sounds
>are just irresistable and give off a nice underground vibe.
>Does anyone think Moby will incorporate this style into his
>music for his new album? I personally don't think he will
>but it would be interesting.
>RT



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From: theShackofXaq <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby & Speed Garage
Date: 16 Feb 1998 00:51:00 -0600 (CST)

On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Pedersen, Trond Erik wrote:

> I fell totally for speed garage when I first heard it. From my point of
> view I don't think SG is very inovative tho'. It mostly is
> "light-jungle" and early drum'n'bass inspired music adapted more to the
> dancefloor than the two mentioned. Very cool and impossible to sit still
> and listen to... you just hafta move to it.

i love it! i don't think it's at all musical most of the time, but
anything armand van helden has done in the past couple of years is really
good. i love his tori and goldie remixes!
fyi, logic records will be releasing a speed garage comp by next month.
get it!

> BTW, anyone know what Moby thinks of Jungle, D&B, SG and similar styles
> of music?
> Could be awsome to see him turn this way, rite?

when i interviewed moby in november, he said that he really enjoyed d&b.
i'm pretty sure he won't turn to d&b or SG. he's much too musical. maybe
lopez? or remixes?

-xaq-
"People have power not only depending on how much they know, but also what
they are prepared to find out!" alec empire




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From: theShackofXaq <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) for miss t
Date: 16 Feb 1998 00:56:23 -0600 (CST)

miss t! i lost your address. i have that moby tape for you.
please send me your addy again.
sorry to bother ya'll.

-xaq-
"People have power not only depending on how much they know, but also what
they are prepared to find out!" alec empire




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From: Dan Legare <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) voodoo child
Date: 16 Feb 1998 02:18:35 -0700

i really need to know about the voodoo child thing. i've been listening to
'the end of everything' and i notice some similarity to this release to the
voodoo child mixes of some moby songs. i know voodoo child to be moby,
however, what is the idea behind voodoo child,evil ninja, little idiot? i'm
a moby fan for about 2 years, and i just stumbled across this now. late, i
know.
'end of everything' is great. am i right in thinking voodoo child to be the
ambient/trancy part of the moby crew?
some of the synths on this release make me think of depeche mode circa
vince clark era.

soundtrack to my night

danny

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From: Dan Legare <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) moby vids
Date: 16 Feb 1998 05:18:45 -0700

any chance of elektra or mute releasing a moby video compilation? live video?

yeah this question's been asked before....i'm sure. just wanted to know

jedi-spice

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) CD Stores Online for Moby
Date: 16 Feb 1998 08:28:25 EST

I have it and it is indeed fantastic.  I really like the next is the e remix!

Theo



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From: theShackofXaq <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) voodoo child
Date: 16 Feb 1998 08:50:12 -0600 (CST)

On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Dan Legare wrote:
> i really need to know about the voodoo child thing. i've been listening to
> 'the end of everything' and i notice some similarity to this release to the
> voodoo child mixes of some moby songs. i know voodoo child to be moby,
> however, what is the idea behind voodoo child,evil ninja, little idiot? i'm
> a moby fan for about 2 years, and i just stumbled across this now. late, i
> know.

well, he's told me that voodoo child and lopez etc. are names he uses for
his tracks that don't fit into his more mainstream moby sound. his more
repetitive, deeper house tracks are usualy found on his own record label,
trophy. i've only heard "emptiness" and the voodoo child album, but i
love them both.
if anyone out there wants to get rid of any 12"s from trophy (other than
emptiness and the dog heaven single) i'd be happy to exchange them for cash.
i'm having trouble getting my hands on them.
later,
-xaq-
"People have power not only depending on how much they know, but also what
they are prepared to find out!" alec empire





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From: Ryu <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby & Speed Garage
Date: 16 Feb 1998 10:12:33 -0500

>BTW, anyone know what Moby thinks of Jungle, D&B, SG and similar styles
>of music?
>Could be awsome to see him turn this way, rite?

he says that he likes it...and likes to hear it at a club,
but when it cums to bringing it into his own home, he
considers it to be "musical wallpaper" because like most
of the dance music he's heard, it lacks personality.

i think that his oppinion is changing now though.
i'm not sure if it's because of "animal rights" or if he's
just seeing things differently.  or maybe it has to do with
a few electronic music bands going mainstream in the last
2 years.  but i'd expect some floor fillers on this next album.

love,
ryu

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From: Furball <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) UHF to N.I.T.E.(next is the e)
Date: 16 Feb 1998 11:23:35 -0600 (CST)

At 06:03 PM 2/15/98 EST, you wrote:
>I think at the time Moby just probably liked that chord progression, i've done
>that with a few of my tracks. Moby has also done recent songs which are named
>differently but basicly are the same songs. I wouldn't hold it against him. I
>just consider it a progression of the original and leave it at that.

I suppose. Trent Reznor is another person famous for ripping himself off
like that, and I know many people who do similar mixes and give them
alternate names, out of those names come entirely different remixes. In
essence, it usually works out. However, I disagree that Moby's newest tracks
are basically old songs (not having heard Gracosia or however it's spelled)
but simply songs with minor similarities. The only similarity I can see is
possibly Anthem and Oil 1, but they're not similar enough to discard as
facsimile songs.

>dj tripp
>p.s. i love the fact that next is the e turns into N.I.T.E.

Hehehe, it's quite novel...

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From: Furball <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby & Speed Garage
Date: 16 Feb 1998 11:27:38 -0600 (CST)

At 08:17 PM 2/15/98 +0000, you wrote:
>What does everybody think about this new style of house
>known as speed garage? I think the warped bass line sounds
>are just irresistable and give off a nice underground vibe.

New style of house? Wow. I've never actually heard speed garage, but judging
by the name I assumed it was just another spin-off of gabber. ;P If you can
actually dance to it, I'm all for it.

>Does anyone think Moby will incorporate this style into his
>music for his new album? I personally don't think he will
>but it would be interesting.

Probably not, but you never know...

>RT
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From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) speed garage
Date: 16 Feb 1998 10:46:27 -0800 (PST)




yes, what is all this hoo-hah about speed garage?
I have the new goldie single, and i personally think the remix by van
helden and its dub reprise arent really that good. It just sounds like
house music to me. And I don't like his daft punk remix, which samples
another song from their album but not the one its remixing.

If Moby did go jungle that would be way kool. Almost as kool as him
remixing Heathcliff or Inspector Gadget. I mean, the closest to jungle
he ever went was like the first few seconds of Everythime you Touch
Me. That's not really even jungle.

Now we all know who Moby himself has remixed, and what we think he
should remix, but I'm wondering:
Who do we think should remix Moby?
I mean most remixes of Moby are by himself right? (Kind of like FSOL,
they don't hire much outside remixers.)
I know Laurent Garnier and Jam n Spoon and members of this mailing
list have remixed him, but who else should?
I think Aphex Twin or Squarepusher remixing Moby would be phat. Or a
really hardcore jungle DJ. That'd be awesome. Like if Moby won't go
jungle, he could just have someone who is remix him!

cheers
==
Adios Amigos,
      ~~PAUL~~


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From: "Stuart Adair" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) moby's gone jungle
Date: 16 Feb 1998 19:00:57 -0000

actually, moby's already done jungle -- the nyc jungle mix of everytime you
touch me.

stuart
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/ / [e-mail] _) :terrypratchett::::drum&bass:|  in
\ \/\ c.floor homepage back up!  (_  /\ :zxspectrum::::fatboyslim:|  beees!"
 \__/ http://cfloor.home.ml.org [__)/  \_ :quake:kenickie:[frenzi]|   -(e.i)




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From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby & Speed Garage
Date: 16 Feb 1998 12:35:06 -0700

Pedersen, Trond Erik wrote:
> BTW, anyone know what Moby thinks of Jungle, D&B, SG and similar styles
> of music?

From the Animal Rights interview:

 "I like jungle a lot.  There again I think it is kind of like
  musical wallpaper, where to me it does all sound the same.  You
  know if I'm in a nightclub and they're playing jungle, it sounds
  great to me and I love it and I'll dance to it a little bit.
  But on a song level, it never really excites me.  It, you know,
  just works as sort of like the musical equivalent of graphic
  design.  You know, something you enjoy coming in contact with,
  but not something you want to bring into your house."  -Moby

> Could be awsome to see him turn this way, rite?

Nah, waste of his talent.  Besides, I don't think he could outdo the
D&B guys that are already there.  We can expect more introspective
moody electronic pieces from Moby in the near future, and it would
be nice if he would release some more exciting techno music, like
he used to do when he was on Instinct Records, and in the early Mute
days.

Daniel Cerman
http://www.moby.org/



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From: Ryu <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) moby has left the list
Date: 16 Feb 1998 14:59:18 -0500

this list sucks anymore.
i'm not afraid to say it.
the most common reply to a sentence like that is "then leave".
but i won't go.

because there is too much to moby to talk about that 99% of
the people on this list neglect.
there was an argument a while back where a decision was made
to NOT talk about moby's filosophy and beliefs and to only talk
about release dates and similar boring things.

what interests me in moby, and draws  me into his music is his
personal beliefs and feelings.  these things are tabboo on this list.
and if it means i'll be thrown off for it, so be it...but i can't sit here
and read stuff about issues that are secondary to me any longer.
especially when i can simply go to dan's page and get all that anyway.
there is a link to any fact on moby from his page.  go there if you
want lyrics, track listings, etc....

the reason this list has been having problems with puff daddy nonsense,
and simple "me too" replies is BECAUSE there isn't a whole lot of moby
news right now.  so WHY THE HADES NOT DON'T WE TALK ABOUT
MOBY'S INSIDES?

to be a hypocrite....i will bring up a topic that i'd have an orgasm
if someone would reply and add some of their personal sentiments as well.

my question is this:

moby says that there are more important inssues in the world than those
the christian right preaches (condoms, skematics of the bible, etc...).
so does that mean that we are to prioritize everything we think and act about?
is there room for everyone to set their priorities?  and is it a personal
decision
to make yapping about teens having sex your number one priority?
and if people's health and the environment are high on moby's list, why are
all his songs about his own problems with love relationships?  is that i
violation
of what he believes?  granted, he's human and allowed to violate himself as
much as he wants.  i violate myself sometimes twice daly!

ok.  please someone say something that interests me (and many of the others that
have been here for a while).  thank you for reading this much.

love,
ryu

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 My name is Ryu.  I make hard emotional
 electronic music.  To hear some, get cds,
   and see stuff, go to my homepage at:
http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 Ryu  |  [e-mail]  |  814-867-0756
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++




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From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby's gone jungle
Date: 16 Feb 1998 12:54:28 -0700

Stuart Adair wrote:
> actually, moby's already done jungle -- the nyc jungle mix of everytime you
> touch me.

That's a nice remix, but really weak "jungle".  Though I'm sure I'll
enjoy any excursions Moby makes into drum & bass, he should probably
leave the serious jungle to the pros and trade remixes with them.  He
could turn their 'musical wallpaper' into neat emotional songs, while
they take his material and mash it up!

My favorite track of Moby's that wonderfully fuses junglistic canned
beats with emotional pianos & strings is "Unloved Symphony".  It's
not jungle, but it's great.

As a side note, I was kind of disappointed with Grooverider's remix
of the James Bond Theme.  Even though it was cool and fun, I kept
expecting the drums to go crazy and explode at any moment.  They
didn't.  It had a good bassline, though.

Daniel Cerman
http://www.moby.org/



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From: "Michaela Gerstner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby has left the list
Date: 16 Feb 1998 13:43:25 -0700

i have to agree w/ Ryu here.  i just signed on to the list a few weeks ago,
and although i've found some things interesting, most have been kinda
boring.  i am just a beginning moby fan, and this list has helped me a lot
in finding out things about singles & aliases and such, but i want to learn
more about MOBY, and not just his music.  his music is wonderful, and i
like the fact that there are diff't mixes of the same things because all
things can be said in diff't ways and still mean the same thing.  there's
more to a person that just their music.  that's my two cents anyway.

as for the issues.. there are many things out there to be active about.
everywhere u turn, there is injustice that's worth fighting against.  some
ppl take it overboard (i.e. christian coalition and PETA), but they're
still fighting against it.  what i like about MOBY is the fact that he's
done research.. like in his everything is wrong CD.  i find that really
great that he knows what he is fighting for.. and is trying to educate
others.  some ppl educate the wrong way, with violence.  sometimes, i think
ppl worry too much over things... and sometimes not enough.  i think
society has gotten to a point where everyone is fighting.. they're not
longer listening to each other, just fighting.  when you have everyone each
yelling a diff't thing, it gets confusing and u don't know who to listen
to.  i guess what i'm trying to say is that it's OK to fight for stuff, but
sometimes u have to listen to others to fully fight for a right.  so, it's
your decision as to what u want to fight for... just be prepared to battle.
 you have to know what your fighting for, or else you'll get trampled.  and
maybe moby wants something else to write music about.  i know that's the
way i am.  some things i fight for verbally, others i write down.
sometimes you want to get off your soapbox for a little bit and take a
break.  i hope this doesn't insult anyone, because that's the last thing i
want to do... and Ryu, i hope this is what u were looking for.  this has
probably been the only thing i really wanted to reply to.  but i'd like to
thank the list for helping me find out more about moby's music.  i actually
know what to look for now... it's like turning on a light switch in a
cluttered room... no more bumping into hard objects and bruising my knees.
:P
Blessed Be,
Plovious

http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Vines/3589/
----------
> From: Ryu <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: (mobility) moby has left the list
> Date: Monday, February 16, 1998 12:59 PM
>
> this list sucks anymore.
> i'm not afraid to say it.
> the most common reply to a sentence like that is "then leave".
> but i won't go.
>
> because there is too much to moby to talk about that 99% of
> the people on this list neglect.
> there was an argument a while back where a decision was made
> to NOT talk about moby's filosophy and beliefs and to only talk
> about release dates and similar boring things.
>
> what interests me in moby, and draws  me into his music is his
> personal beliefs and feelings.  these things are tabboo on this list.
> and if it means i'll be thrown off for it, so be it...but i can't sit
here
> and read stuff about issues that are secondary to me any longer.
> especially when i can simply go to dan's page and get all that anyway.
> there is a link to any fact on moby from his page.  go there if you
> want lyrics, track listings, etc....
>
> the reason this list has been having problems with puff daddy nonsense,
> and simple "me too" replies is BECAUSE there isn't a whole lot of moby
> news right now.  so WHY THE HADES NOT DON'T WE TALK ABOUT
> MOBY'S INSIDES?
>
> to be a hypocrite....i will bring up a topic that i'd have an orgasm
> if someone would reply and add some of their personal sentiments as well.
>
> my question is this:
>
> moby says that there are more important inssues in the world than those
> the christian right preaches (condoms, skematics of the bible, etc...).
> so does that mean that we are to prioritize everything we think and act
about?
> is there room for everyone to set their priorities?  and is it a personal
> decision
> to make yapping about teens having sex your number one priority?
> and if people's health and the environment are high on moby's list, why
are
> all his songs about his own problems with love relationships?  is that i
> violation
> of what he believes?  granted, he's human and allowed to violate himself
as
> much as he wants.  i violate myself sometimes twice daly!
>
> ok.  please someone say something that interests me (and many of the
others that
> have been here for a while).  thank you for reading this much.
>
> love,
> ryu
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  My name is Ryu.  I make hard emotional
>  electronic music.  To hear some, get cds,
>    and see stuff, go to my homepage at:
> http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  Ryu  |  [e-mail]  |  814-867-0756
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>



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From: "whiterat" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby has left the list
Date: 16 Feb 1998 15:50:50 -0500

Jon/Ryu
this is mark, I realize the last time i mailed you was (again) a while back,
Weird about the money, which I did send you...I guess some crazed postal
employee stole it (oh, well, I've wasted 20 bucks on worse things before)

I've been silent on the list for the prcise reason you mentioned-I think
that there is no good reason not to discuss philosophy on the list, and
furthermore that if Damien acts too stringently upon the list (he doesn't
care about quality as much as some weird rule being broken-rules I find on
no other list)

anyways, I'd love to continue our aborted discussion oon life, love,
philosophy, art, and music (your cd is now throughout europe, i sent a tape
to austria, and he asked me for a cd, so I used my friends japanese cd
recorder to dub your cd, 3 times 2 copies of which are i paris, and one in
germany)

love
mark
"Dreams are no longer summoned with closed eyes, but in reading"
-michel foucault
Closer-the dennis cooper web resource
www.ameriserv.net/closer
-----Original Message-----


>this list sucks anymore.
>i'm not afraid to say it.
>the most common reply to a sentence like that is "then leave".
>but i won't go.
>
>because there is too much to moby to talk about that 99% of
>the people on this list neglect.
>there was an argument a while back where a decision was made
>to NOT talk about moby's filosophy and beliefs and to only talk
>about release dates and similar boring things.
>
>what interests me in moby, and draws  me into his music is his
>personal beliefs and feelings.  these things are tabboo on this list.
>and if it means i'll be thrown off for it, so be it...but i can't sit here
>and read stuff about issues that are secondary to me any longer.
>especially when i can simply go to dan's page and get all that anyway.
>there is a link to any fact on moby from his page.  go there if you
>want lyrics, track listings, etc....
>
>the reason this list has been having problems with puff daddy nonsense,
>and simple "me too" replies is BECAUSE there isn't a whole lot of moby
>news right now.  so WHY THE HADES NOT DON'T WE TALK ABOUT
>MOBY'S INSIDES?
>
>to be a hypocrite....i will bring up a topic that i'd have an orgasm
>if someone would reply and add some of their personal sentiments as well.
>
>my question is this:
>
>moby says that there are more important inssues in the world than those
>the christian right preaches (condoms, skematics of the bible, etc...).
>so does that mean that we are to prioritize everything we think and act
about?
>is there room for everyone to set their priorities?  and is it a personal
>decision
>to make yapping about teens having sex your number one priority?
>and if people's health and the environment are high on moby's list, why are
>all his songs about his own problems with love relationships?  is that i
>violation
>of what he believes?  granted, he's human and allowed to violate himself as
>much as he wants.  i violate myself sometimes twice daly!
>
>ok.  please someone say something that interests me (and many of the others
that
>have been here for a while).  thank you for reading this much.
>
>love,
>ryu
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> My name is Ryu.  I make hard emotional
> electronic music.  To hear some, get cds,
>   and see stuff, go to my homepage at:
>http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Ryu  |  [e-mail]  |  814-867-0756
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby has left the list
Date: 16 Feb 1998 16:20:33 EST

Ryu,
      I admire you.  Your absolutely right about the bullshit people talk
about.  There is more to a person than shown.  Everyone does something for a
reason, and I want to know Mobys reasons.  Im sure they reflect the utopian
society his wishes the world was.  Personally, I dislike most christians
because they try to poison there kids into believing in something, when what
they should do is let the kid decide.  Dont get me wrong, there are a lot of
very cool christians, moby being one of them, but they scare little kids away
from hell, not ever really making them like heaven.  Its all the kids choice.
I support Moby, unless he is just a great speaker and not a great actor.  If
anyone ever interviews him, please ask him some "deep" questions concerning
how his music reflects what he believes in.
Christianity is fine, if you follow it correctly.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby has left the list
Date: 16 Feb 1998 16:30:13 EST

great gospel session guys, i think we shouldnt stray too far off coarse
though.  Its really is great to get to know a little something about everyone
you are talking to; but, we wont be talking that much longer after they kick
us off the list for forgetting moby.  We should all add our 2 cents worth
while talking about moby.  Plovious and ryu, i respect you both.  You know
what we should do, we should have our own church of Moby.  Then everyone,
including myself, can bitch about politics, religion, philosophy, while still
on the subject of moby!!!!  Its just a though, but what the hell, most of us
have nothing else to do.  Jackin it gets old, and talking about moby lyrics
gets even older.  Someone interview him damnit, figure this stuff out.



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From: Marjorana Karathanasis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby has left the list
Date: 16 Feb 1998 16:54:47 -0500 (EST)

Yahoo for Ryu.  Finally some passion for Moby can be shown and a little
philosophy thrown on the table.  I just re-read the essay inside of Voodoo
Child/ End of Everything and the argument he uses to debunk all the
carnivores, essentially that why would anyone choose to create more
suffering in the world?  I think Moby's music on this album follows very
tightly with this message in that this very mellow ambient album makes me
feel very at peace.  I also find that Feeling so real agitates me to a
point of blind righteousness and when I listen to it I know exactly how
moby feels when he thinks about all the injustice that he writes about in
his essays.  I think there are a lot of correlations between the two
(Music and personal ethic), I just think Moby chooses to prioritize with
the vegetarian thing and the environment because these are things we can
all do as individuals without "fighting" per se, but just making conscious
choices that take into account the rest of this vast universe that we are
inherently connected to.  Because we are connected, by not making our home
and animals--inextricable parts of ourselves--suffer, consequently we do
not suffer and move one step closer to utopia.

Okay, I said my thought of the moment.  I'd love to join this little Moby
church if this kind of talk is violating mobility.

--marjorana






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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby has left the list
Date: 16 Feb 1998 22:13:50 GMT

Now that I have read 20 minutes worth of 4 posts, I feel the need to respond. I
have not been here for more than a month, but I have noticed that you are all
right. However, I don't know if every post, or even the majority, should be
about personal moby. For myself, I like hearing about Moby's songs, because
everyone here has shown me how little I actually know. I had 16 Moby CDs and
thought I was a hot shot. I guess I was wrong. I would like to know about Moby,
but not to the point that I know more about him than myself. In my mind, It
would be kind of violating him to examine every move he makes. If you think we
should examine, then lets examine him through his songs. Who cares about where
he lives, or what color clothes he wears unless he wrote a song about him. I
mean, sure I don't like the "I think he should remix Heathcliff" or something
like that, but how deep do we have to get. If you are going to go that far, at
least put a little (W) to warn me in your title so I can prepare myself to read
the post. Well....To qoute the great Dennis Miller, "That's just my opinion, I
could be wrong."
Well, anyway, I just wanted to know, how many of you actually believe moby
about the animals and the meat and the cars so much that you actually follow
that lifestyle, i.e. a automobileless vegan? Just wanted to know. Later.
This message sent using the FirstClass SMTP/NNTP Gateway for Mac OS.




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From: "ultraviolet" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Sanford and Son / DnB
Date: 16 Feb 1998 16:19:44 -0600

Just for the record, I have been working on a remix of the Sanford and Son
theme.  I started it prior to someone suggesting it on this list.  That is,
I didn't copy the idea, I already had it!!  Anyway, formalities aside, I am
annoyed by "drum and bass".  The style is too closed for me.  The same goes
for jungle.  It doesn't allow enough freedom.  The preset "genre" is too
strict in design.  (The way its "supposed" to sound.)  That's my opinion.
OK, enough said.  RRR
|| R| Erasure: Delobbo Remix .MP3's:  http://members.xoom.com/delobbo
|| P| 242.cure.depeche_MODE.erasure.megadeth.moby.|\|||/|.nitzer_ebb.U2.
|| D| alice_in_chains.marilyn_manson.ministry.new_order.pet_shop_boys.




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From: "Michaela Gerstner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby has left the list
Date: 16 Feb 1998 15:22:17 -0700

a church, huh?  hmmm... it'd be the first i'd attend in yrs!  maybe one i'd
acutally agree with!  :)

glad to see that ppl agree w/ this.  but i don't see how this is straying
off the course, because this is still about MOBY.  it's not about his
music, per say, but about him.

i have a question, does MOBY actually read this list @ times... does he
even know it exists?  it's probably a dumb question, and probably already
asked... i'm just curious.  maybe if he looked at the stuff asked (whenever
stuff is asked), he'd know what questions ppl want answered.  it'd be great
to get some feedback from him, because he knows the answers.  we can't just
assume the answers... remember, when u assume.... . .. .   .  ;)

Blessed Be,
Plovious

http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Vines/3589/
----------
> From: [e-mail]
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: (mobility) moby has left the list
> Date: Monday, February 16, 1998 2:30 PM
>
> great gospel session guys, i think we shouldnt stray too far off coarse
> though.  Its really is great to get to know a little something about
everyone
> you are talking to; but, we wont be talking that much longer after they
kick
> us off the list for forgetting moby.  We should all add our 2 cents worth
> while talking about moby.  Plovious and ryu, i respect you both.  You
know
> what we should do, we should have our own church of Moby.  Then everyone,
> including myself, can bitch about politics, religion, philosophy, while
still
> on the subject of moby!!!!  Its just a though, but what the hell, most of
us
> have nothing else to do.  Jackin it gets old, and talking about moby
lyrics
> gets even older.  Someone interview him damnit, figure this stuff out.



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From: "Brad Caviness" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby has left the list -- Reply part one
Date: 16 Feb 1998 15:32:27 -0600


-----Original Message-----

>this list sucks anymore.
>i'm not afraid to say it.
>the most common reply to a sentence like that is "then leave".
>but i won't go.
>
Good, we love you too much

>because there is too much to moby to talk about that 99% of
>the people on this list neglect.
>there was an argument a while back where a decision was made
>to NOT talk about moby's filosophy and beliefs and to only talk
>about release dates and similar boring things.
>
I remember the discussion, but I don't remember that outcome. I might have
missed something, but I thought the concensus (or at least my view) was that
Moby's views, philosophies and beliefs were as much a part of this
discussion as his music, especially since he goes to such trouble to make
them known in his album linear notes. I think Moby's intent is to cause
discussion, not stifle it. I remember someone suggesting a separate list for
philosophical and religious topics, but I have yet to see any actual list
materialize. So, until then, I say this is the place for that kind of talk.

>what interests me in moby, and draws  me into his music is his
>personal beliefs and feelings.
>
True, it was Moby's religious beliefs that first made me take notice of him,
regardless of how I may or may not agree with him all the time. The music is
what hooked me, but his beliefs are certainly relevant in an ongoing
discussion among fans.

 these things are tabboo on this list.
>and if it means i'll be thrown off for it, so be it...but i can't sit here
>and read stuff about issues that are secondary to me any longer.
>especially when i can simply go to dan's page and get all that anyway.
>there is a link to any fact on moby from his page.  go there if you
>want lyrics, track listings, etc....
>
I hope I don't get thrown off, either. I like people to like me.

>the reason this list has been having problems with puff daddy nonsense,
>and simple "me too" replies is BECAUSE there isn't a whole lot of moby
>news right now.  so WHY THE HADES NOT DON'T WE TALK ABOUT
>MOBY'S INSIDES?
>
>to be a hypocrite....i will bring up a topic that i'd have an orgasm
>if someone would reply and add some of their personal sentiments as well.
>
>my question is this:
>
>moby says that there are more important inssues in the world than those
>the christian right preaches (condoms, skematics of the bible, etc...).
>so does that mean that we are to prioritize everything we think and act
about?
>is there room for everyone to set their priorities?  and is it a personal
>decision
>to make yapping about teens having sex your number one priority?
>and if people's health and the environment are high on moby's list, why are
>all his songs about his own problems with love relationships?  is that i
>violation
>of what he believes?  granted, he's human and allowed to violate himself as
>much as he wants.  i violate myself sometimes twice daly!
>
>ok.  please someone say something that interests me (and many of the others
that
>have been here for a while).  thank you for reading this much.
>
>love,
>ryu
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> My name is Ryu.  I make hard emotional
> electronic music.  To hear some, get cds,
>   and see stuff, go to my homepage at:
>http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Ryu  |  [e-mail]  |  814-867-0756
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>




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From: "Brad Caviness" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby has left the list -- Reply part two
Date: 16 Feb 1998 16:50:59 -0600


-----Original Message-----
>to be a hypocrite....i will bring up a topic that i'd have an orgasm
>if someone would reply and add some of their personal sentiments as well.
>
>my question is this:
>
>moby says that there are more important inssues in the world than those
>the christian right preaches (condoms, skematics of the bible, etc...).
>so does that mean that we are to prioritize everything we think and act
about?
>is there room for everyone to set their priorities?  and is it a personal
>decision to make yapping about teens having sex your number one priority?
>and if people's health and the environment are high on moby's list, why are
>all his songs about his own problems with love relationships?  is that i
>violation of what he believes?  granted, he's human and allowed to violate
>himself as much as he wants.  i violate myself sometimes twice daly!
>
By a matter of semantics, I could be said to be a member of the religious
right. I hold traditional and orthodox Christian beliefs and am politically
conservative. However, I split ideologically from many of my brethren and
sistren when it comes to the cultural expression of those beliefs. I take
very seriously Jesus' admonitions that personal righteousness includes not
judging others.  I also can't quite jibe the Christian Coalition's supposed
pro-life stance with their support of capital punishment and lack of concern
over the environment. The Catholic's "Seamless Garment" is a much more
comprehensive document which takes more than just abortion into account when
defining a truly pro-life theology.

For the longest time, this was the signature file to all of my email:
"There seems, by the way, to be nothing pending in the Christian Coalition`s
political wish list about sheltering the homeless, feeding the hungry, or
clothing the naked, unless, of course, the naked got that way for fun." -
Tom Teepen, Cox News Service.

But it's important to note that most of the nation's social ills directly
mirror the rising liberalization of our sexual attitudes and actions. I
don't think that is coincidental. I also don't think getting people to stop
having sex outside of marriage will be a panacea to all that ails us. But
when cultural attitudes about sex do not include committment, there is a
weakening of the familial structure that is the moral foundation of our
culture. The answer, however, I believe lies in education and integrity in
personal relationships rather than legislation. Good schools, strong
churches, and elimination of poverty (rather than creating a dependant
class) are the key. All involve personal choices over social engineering. If
the Christian Coalition or American Family Association started steering
their political contributions towards creating jobs and training for the
poor, it would probably do more to encourage social morality than 100 years
of preaching.

There are Christian organizations that do good work. Evangelicals for Social
Action, Green Cross, Compassion International, all geared towards making
real life, spiritually based actions towards "Thy kingdom come, thy will be
done on earth as it is in heaven."

Is Moby a hypocrite for the apparent dichotomy between his words, actions
and art? Yes. He's said so himself. Read the linear notes to Everything is
Wrong. The point is, everyone's a hypocrite. Our actions fall short of our
ideals, no matter who we are, no exceptions. Of course, it seems Moby's art
is about his emotions and impulses, and he balances that by making his notes
about his beliefs and ideals, even when they may contradict each other.
Jesus said being honest about our sins and short comings is more important
than being good. God wants humble servants, not proud judges. Humans who act
on principle because of their love and desire to please the creator
realizing all goodness comes from God. We cannot measure up on our own. If
we stand, it's only by God's provision. And if we fall, we fall on God's
grace that covers all transgressions. If our actions and intentions are not
motivated by love, then they are pointless. Faith without works is dead. But
works without faith are only wood.

Sorry for the sermon. I don't mean to proseletyze via the list. But it seems
Moby's spirituality seems to have a handle on these tenets. He wants to
serve God according to his conscience, recognizing that he is a fallen
creature in need of redemption. He says his personal spiritual epiphany came
from reading Matthew 5-7, Christ's "Sermon On the Mount." Not a bad place to
start if you want to find a practical, working philosophy for Christianity.

BSC




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From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby has left the list
Date: 16 Feb 1998 15:54:13 -0700

Michaela Gerstner wrote:
> i have a question, does MOBY actually read this list @ times... does he
> even know it exists?

Moby knows about this list, but I don't know whether he has ever
got a chance to read anything from it.  This list was started
more than a year and a half after Moby canceled his Internet
account, and as far as I know, he hasn't established a new one.
He does pop online when he's doing a chat or something like that,
and has seen some web pages including Samu's and mine.  Mobility
archives are available on my site, but I don't know if he ever
looked at them.

[e-mail] wrote:
> Well, anyway, I just wanted to know, how many of you actually believe moby
> about the animals and the meat and the cars so much that you actually follow
> that lifestyle, i.e. a automobileless vegan? Just wanted to know.

Moby has some good points about why we should not eat animals
or otherwise cause suffering.  I think that because of what he
and others on this this list have said, this issue has been
brought closer to the foreground of my consciousness, and as
such I think have decreased my meat intake.  I am not ready
a full vegetarian, but I think there has been some effect.
I don't have a car, but I plan to get one, simply because it
is practically a necessity in America in 1998.  At the moment,
I jog or bike or take a bus to go places, but it's not a very
good situation.

Daniel Cerman
http://www.moby.org/



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From: "Jose M. Cordoba" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: Sampling (Utah Saints)
Date: 16 Feb 1998 17:58:56 -0500

UTAH SAINTS!! My other favorite group!  Here's what I know:

After their first album, I know they released a single for the Brit movie SHOPPING
including the tracks "I still Think of You" and "Highlander" as well as a CJ
Bolland mix of "Highlander" and a live version of "Something Good".  I was very
fortunate to find this at the local Tower Records, but I have never seen another
copy of it.

They also released the single "Ohio" with a couple of mixes on it.  Good single but
not as strong as "I still Think of You" which is excellent.  I read somewhere of
another promotional single called "Star" being released, but I've never seen or
heard it.

They had trouble with releasing their CD which was supposed to include an
interactive part and was supposed to come out years ago.  Last I heard, though, was
that they were shooting a new video in New York City so things are looking up!

Here's a good site:  http://w3.adb.gu.se/~s94dalle/utah/utah.html

BTW Ryu, if you're reading this... they may still have a copy of OHIO at my local
Tower Records.  I'll check it out and let you know.

JMC




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From: Daniel Lee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby has left the list
Date: 16 Feb 1998 15:24:36 -0800



[e-mail] wrote:

> Well, anyway, I just wanted to know, how many of you actually believe moby
> about the animals and the meat and the cars so much that you actually follow
> that lifestyle, i.e. a automobileless vegan? Just wanted to know. Later.
> This message sent using the FirstClass SMTP/NNTP Gateway for Mac OS.

  I think of it this way...

Moby is the sort of role model I want to spire to be like, but because of my
current situations, I can't.

    I WISH I could be as dedicated to veganism and getting rid of cars as Moby is.

But the fact of the matter is, my university cafeteria does not serve healthy
food, and I have to eat the meat.
    And even more than that, I need my car to get around. I couldn't live my kind
of lifestyle without a car. And I don't know how Moby does it. I guessing he takes
a lot of busses (which I do), and bums rides off friends (which I also do).

Anyway, I think Moby is a great role model, and his sentiments are noble. I try my
best, but I can't get rid of my car. It's not going to happen until I can afford
an electric or solar powered vehicle.

That's my two cents.

Dan




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby's jungle
Date: 16 Feb 1998 18:31:09 EST

I'd have to say Moby's b-side "Dark" is my favorite psuedo-jungle track. The
name fits it perfectly.

dj tripp



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) voodoo child
Date: 16 Feb 1998 18:35:36 EST

I'm wondering why Moby put out such a mellow album as V.C.? all the other V.C.
stuff is sooo hard! Its like the old school part of him. I really would love
to hear more harder techno from Moby soon. By the way, the song in the credits
of Double Tap is very very similar to Dark.

dj tripp



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From: "William Turner Spencer Iii" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Sampling
Date: 16 Feb 1998 19:52:25 -0500

I agree with the X-Files remix thing, but I think he should remix Lush 1,
Halcyon+On+On, or Quality Seconds.  Yes, you heard me, Quality Seconds, that
song everyone thinks of as one of those "inbetween two other real songs"
songs.

dreamANALYZER




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Sampling
Date: 17 Feb 1998 01:04:39 GMT

Lush 1, Halcyon +ON +ON, Belfast, or Kein Trink Wasser are all great Orbital
Songs. Moby did Spead Freak and I did not really like that song. I know this is
a off topic, but can someone please tell me if it is Halcyon or Halycon cause I
have 3 dif albums with is Halcyon and 1 with it Halycon. I don't know what
Halycon is, and I know what Halcyon is, but Halycon sounds cooler. Now, has
Moby ever remixed any other Orbital because I love them and I would like to see
if Moby would be able to make it better. It would be amazingly hard. Later.
This message sent using the FirstClass SMTP/NNTP Gateway for Mac OS.




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From: Ryu <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby has left the list
Date: 16 Feb 1998 21:17:04 -0500

>as for the issues.. there are many things out there to be active about.
>everywhere u turn, there is injustice that's worth fighting against.  some
>ppl take it overboard (i.e. christian coalition and PETA), but they're
>still fighting against it.  what i like about MOBY is the fact that he's
>done research.. like in his everything is wrong CD.  i find that really
>great that he knows what he is fighting for.. and is trying to educate
>others.

i agree.  what i find most compelling about moby, is his ability to keep
me on my toes.  he keeps me interested because i don't really know what
he's going to say next.  and what he says (this is the important part)
and what he does....he does with MODERATION.  he is labelled as a hardcore
vegan, but i don't think he is at all.  i don't think there is too much
hardness in moby at all in anythign he does.  and that is a very
honest humanistic quality that he expresses very well in all his music.
everythign from the "end of everythign" to "animal rights"....even "thousand"
is a soft song when you know moby.

ok,
love,
ryu

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 My name is Ryu.  I make hard emotional
 electronic music.  To hear some, get cds,
   and see stuff, go to my homepage at:
http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 Ryu  |  [e-mail]  |  814-867-0756
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++




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From: Ryu <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby has left the list
Date: 16 Feb 1998 21:24:20 -0500

At 04:54 PM 2/16/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Yahoo for Ryu.

would i love to be able to cum up with an exclamation that
rhymes with Marjorana.  he heee....

>Finally some passion for Moby can be shown and a little
>philosophy thrown on the table.  I just re-read the essay inside of Voodoo
>Child/ End of Everything and the argument he uses to debunk all the
>carnivores, essentially that why would anyone choose to create more
>suffering in the world?  I think Moby's music on this album follows very
>tightly with this message in that this very mellow ambient album makes me
>feel very at peace.

i just have to say that it was that short little essay that made me
finally decide to give up meat.  simple and to the point.
it was good finding out about moby when i did...because i had many of the
same beliefs as him before i first heard his music.  then when i got to know
him, it was like meeting a long lost brother or something.
but i've always felt similar to moby on just about everything except for
some of his stances on pornography.  while i like looking at nude women, i think
that there is a line that must be observed.

love,
ryu

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 My name is Ryu.  I make hard emotional
 electronic music.  To hear some, get cds,
   and see stuff, go to my homepage at:
http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 Ryu  |  [e-mail]  |  814-867-0756
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++




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From: "Rekkit" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Revolution!
Date: 16 Feb 1998 21:31:55 -0800

>this list sucks anymore.
>i'm not afraid to say it.


A wholehearted agreement on this one....

>what interests me in moby, and draws  me into his music is his
>personal beliefs and feelings.  these things are tabboo on this list.

Exactly.  I feel bad; I mean this really is Damian's list but it's stagnated
to the point of utter boredom.  There's never anything that sparks my
interest anymore.  I don't like to bring it up again, but the philosophy
debate was a good one-and one that should really be considered a vital part
of why we all enjoy Moby as a thought provoking, intelligent musician.  He
doesn't just release music-he releases *soul-wrenching* music.  I think we
should have the freedom to discuss where they come from!

>so does that mean that we are to prioritize everything we think and act
about?

Only when it serves a purpose.  Moby wants people to open their minds, but
the fact is for the most part he wants us to open them in his direction ;)

>and if people's health and the environment are high on moby's list, why are
>all his songs about his own problems with love relationships?

I know this isn't the answer you're looking for-but (and I know you know
this already) he doesn't want to come off like a preacher in his
songwriting.  I think there's a lot of people out there that write really
powerful political messages into their songs.  I'm not sure that Moby could
pull that off without satirizing himself a little.

Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page:
http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm





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From: "Rekkit" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby's gone jungle
Date: 16 Feb 1998 21:34:47 -0800

>That's a nice remix, but really weak "jungle".  Though I'm sure I'll
>enjoy any excursions Moby makes into drum & bass, he should probably
>leave the serious jungle to the pros and trade remixes with them.  He
>could turn their 'musical wallpaper' into neat emotional songs, while
>they take his material and mash it up!


We can't forget Dark either; even if it was a tad repetative.  I really hope
he decides to experiment with something like that again...
Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page:
http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm





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From: [e-mail] (Ryan Taylor)
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby has left the list
Date: 16 Feb 1998 19:49:49 -0500

>what i like about MOBY is the fact that he's
>done research.. like in his everything is wrong CD.

>Blessed Be,
>Plovious

IMHO...Moby didn't do enough research for Essay One..I quote:

"It doesn't make sense to derive power from nuclear, coal, and petroleum
when we have solar, hydro, and wind power."

Now I agree that coal and petroleum are outdated sources of power..but the 3
options he gave aren't so "environmentally friendly(ef)" as they may seem:

Solar:  Probably the only one that can claim to be 100% "ef".  As everyone
knows all solar plants do is harness the sun for energy..Nothing wrong with
that...Only problem is the plants need to be in areas that get a LOT of
sun...So it'd be ineffective to place a plant in..Seattle, Washington for
example.

Hydro:  Water is a great source of power..but not always ef.  Anyone in the
NorthWest knows what the hyrdo dams have done to our salmon runs.  Look at
what hyrdo dams have done to the great Colorado River and it's environment.
A lot of area is going to be lost when the Three Rivers(I think that's the
name) Dam goes into effect in China.  Outside Magazine did a great story on
the dam a few months ago..I suggest everybody read it.

Wind:  Once again..wind is a great source of power..but not always ef.  The
number one problem is you need a steady wind..So not every area would be
suited for a wind farm.  #2...Wind farms are VERY noisy.. a homeowner's
association in Spokane, WA(I believe) fought to have one contstructed on a
hill across from them..Think about it..these things run 24/7..hard to sleep
when you have a "whoop whoop" sound going.  #3..Dead birds have been found
in and around windmills..These things do chop birds in half.

I quote once again:

"Basically we should stop doing those things that are destructive to the
environment, other creatures, and ourselves..."

When doing a paper/essay advocating something..I was taught that you play
Devil's Advocate..and see the other side of something..so you can counter
anything that might be said.  Maybe Moby should have done that..he may have
learned that 2 out of the 3 choices he gave might not be the best choice.

BTW..I did do a paper in my Eng102 class about which is the best way to
produce power(I gave pros/cons about each)..It was my opinion that you use
whatever is best for the area(meaning in some areas..A nuclear power plant
might be best).  If anyone wishes to discuss this further..don't hesitate to
email me privately :).

BTW #2  I do realize that Moby is a busy guy..and since he did put a lot of
facts in the EIW liner notes..It's hard to do research on every little
thing.  I'm sure he realizes that he may be wrong too :).

Ryan

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From: Ryu <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) one final note
Date: 16 Feb 1998 21:55:51 -0500

one final note and then i'll shut up for a while:

i just want to say that my gripe with this list is
not at all with any of the members in particular
and is not with damian.  damian has always been
the best list moderator.
and i wanted to say thanks to everyone who has
responded to my post!

love,
ryu

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 My name is Ryu.  I make hard emotional
 electronic music.  To hear some, get cds,
   and see stuff, go to my homepage at:
http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 Ryu  |  [e-mail]  |  814-867-0756
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  Re: (mobility)Beliefs
Date: 16 Feb 1998 21:51:51 EST

 > I WISH I could be as dedicated to veganism and getting rid of cars as Moby
is.

>But the fact of the matter is, my university cafeteria does not serve healthy
>food, and I have to eat the meat.
 >   And even more than that, I need my car to get around. I couldn't live my
kind
>of lifestyle without a car. And I don't know how Moby does it. I guessing he
takes
>a lot of busses (which I do), and bums rides off friends (which I also do).

I'm Sorry, but that is the worst excuse I have ever heard.  It is precisly
that argument that I think Moby is tryng to cut through.  I am vegan and do
not own a car.  It is never the most convient thing, but that doesn't and
shouldn't matter.  if it is something you truly believe in then DO IT!!  Our
society in the US is built upon many things for convience sake, but that has
nothing to do with what is right morally.  (Insert favorite political joke
here.)  Listen to the facts that Moby places in front of you.  Many are very
true.  If it seems like something you want to support you will find a way
around the obstacles.

-kat
" The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what
they become by it." -- John Ruskin



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From: Brian Ruh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Re: (mobility)Beliefs
Date: 16 Feb 1998 22:12:13 -0500 (EST)

> >But the fact of the matter is, my university cafeteria does not serve healthy
> >food, and I have to eat the meat.

Having lived in dorms for the last two-and-a-half years, I can say I really
sympathize. I usually end up eating wilted salads or PB&J. Not that I'm
complaining, because it's my own choice, but a little variety would be nice.

However, just because you don't think you can be vegan in a dorm (it *is*
possible, though) doesn't mean you should give up altogether. I'm sure you
can at least go vegetarian. Simply cutting out meat still will leave you with
many options, at least in my experience. And it's easier to go vegan once you
have been vegetarian for a while.

>  >   And even more than that, I need my car to get around. I couldn't live my
> kind
> >of lifestyle without a car. And I don't know how Moby does it. I guessing he
> takes
> >a lot of busses (which I do), and bums rides off friends (which I also do).

Okay, I own a car. It's odd -- to get around effectively w/o a car, one would
probably have to live in a large city with a good public transit system. Yet
to get around in less citified areas, which would probably be quieter and far
less polluted, one needs a car.

Dammit, what we need are transporters like in Star Trek. That would solve
everything!

My opinion on this list -- I love the philosophical discussions much more than
the posts solely on music. Moby's stance on many issues attracted me to him
initially more than his actual music.

Peace,
Brian





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From: Furball <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) speed garage
Date: 16 Feb 1998 21:28:47 -0600 (CST)

At 10:46 AM 2/16/98 -0800, you wrote:
>I mean, the closest to jungle
>he ever went was like the first few seconds of Everythime you Touch
>Me. That's not really even jungle.

Heh. I suppose you've never heard Unloved Symphony. :) Also, you could count
the EYTM NYC Jungle Mix...

>Now we all know who Moby himself has remixed, and what we think he
>should remix, but I'm wondering:
>Who do we think should remix Moby?

I agree with Aphex Twin. :) Richard D. James should make some interesting
tracks out of Moby's work. Other than that, I suppose I'd like to see what
an Uberzone mix of Moby would sound like. They've done some superb mixes for
Keoki...

>cheers
>==
>Adios Amigos,
>      ~~PAUL~~
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   |          I'm on a mission to wipe imagination clean...               |
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   | DJFurball on IRC                                   Kevin in reality  |
   |                  http://www.pla-net.net/~furball                     |
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From: Furball <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Why I joined this list...
Date: 16 Feb 1998 21:42:58 -0600 (CST)

        Taking the stance of a dedicated Moby fan...

   I joined this list for many reasons. First off and most importantly, I
joined because I wanted to learn more about Moby's music. As an electronic
musician myself, I want to know what makes his tracks tick, so to speak.
Also, I joined to find out more about his releases and remixes, and to get
an honest opinion on them. Talking about Moby's ideology should be an
acceptable part of this list, but there should be a wide range of topics
other than that. I've seen many lists deteriorate into, "what kind of
underwear does he wear?" or, "is it true that so-and-so only goes out at
night and watches pornos inside his/her house all day?" General stupidity
like that. Here's hoping this direction that Ryu is herding these fellow
members in doesn't deteriorate into this type of numbing, ludicrous babble.

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   |        I'm on an ocean that has a brain and makes us dream...        |
   |          I'm on a mission to wipe imagination clean...               |
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   | DJFurball on IRC                                   Kevin in reality  |
   |                  http://www.pla-net.net/~furball                     |
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From: Furball <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Quality Seconds
Date: 16 Feb 1998 21:49:38 -0600 (CST)

At 07:52 PM 2/16/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I agree with the X-Files remix thing, but I think he should remix Lush 1,
>Halcyon+On+On, or Quality Seconds.  Yes, you heard me, Quality Seconds, that
>song everyone thinks of as one of those "inbetween two other real songs"
>songs.

Quality Seconds, had it been more intricate, would have been a damn fine
song. Obviously it was concieved as a joke by most Orbital fans, but I saw
it as a hint of P&P moving in a more industrial direction. It would have
been interesting had they explored this route on In Sides a bit more.

>dreamANALYZER
   *-----------------------=====================--------------------------*
   |        I'm on an ocean that has a brain and makes us dream...        |
   |          I'm on a mission to wipe imagination clean...               |
   |                         -Failure, "Solaris"                          |
   | DJFurball on IRC                                   Kevin in reality  |
   |                  http://www.pla-net.net/~furball                     |
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From: Brian Ruh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Why I joined this list...
Date: 16 Feb 1998 22:57:39 -0500 (EST)

> like that. Here's hoping this direction that Ryu is herding these fellow
> members in doesn't deteriorate into this type of numbing, ludicrous babble.

"Herding"? I'm not quite sure I like the implications. That this list has
either leaders or that we are capable of being herded.

Personally, I must admit that I have not listened to my Moby collection in
quite a while. I find the man's philosophy much more intreguing than his music
at the present music. But then again, what I listen to usually fluctuates (sp?)
depending on what's going on in my life.

Peace,
Brian





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From: Daniel Lee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility)Beliefs
Date: 16 Feb 1998 20:15:36 -0800

Brian, Pazifistin, and all,

see, I've been thinking that once I graduate from college I'll try to
become a vegetarian.

In the meantime, what takes the place of meat in a vegetarian diet? I'd
really like to know, because I'd like to stop eating meat.

Thanks for the responses,

Dan




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From: Furball <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Why I joined this list...
Date: 16 Feb 1998 22:22:33 -0600 (CST)

At 10:57 PM 2/16/98 -0500, you wrote:
>"Herding"? I'm not quite sure I like the implications. That this list has
>either leaders or that we are capable of being herded.

Well, from observation, it looks like a bit of both. Ryu is definately a
leader on this list; everyone loves him, no one challenges his opinions,
etc. This is speaking from the viewpoint of someone who's been on this list
for about a month. Although he does make some intelligent posts, I don't
think there should be total agreement on everything he says. I agree that
the Puff Daddy discussion was quite hackneyed, but had it been brief and
well-discussed rather than the constant stream of "Puffy sucks" messages, it
might have been a good debate.

>Personally, I must admit that I have not listened to my Moby collection in
>quite a while. I find the man's philosophy much more intreguing than his music
>at the present music. But then again, what I listen to usually fluctuates (sp?)
>depending on what's going on in my life.

I've been listening to Moby constantly since September. With every release
of his I pick up I find a different facet of his personality. The seemingly
endless types of electronic (and beyond) music types he attempts just shows
his ambition is as strong as his dedication to his beliefs. As long as this
ambition doesn't die, I will remain a loyal Moby fan.

On another subject hinted at above, I hope to start an intellectual debate
with this one.

Recently, I heard Madonna's new single, "Frozen". Obviously, this was her
attempt at taking a stab into the electronic music realm. The song was
punctuated with various synth bits, various percussive sounds run through
filters and delay, and a chorus consisting of a jungle-type break. The song
itself wasn't that bad; IMHO, it was a better attempt at techno than Bush's
"Mouth", which was a huge chart hit. The point I want to make is this; how
do members of this list, some of you being fans of electronic music for the
7-year duration of Moby's career so far and some even longer than that, feel
about pop stars trying to make techno-ish songs? Is it proliferating the
genre, smattering it with a bad name, or do you feel that these artists are
making a genuine attempt at writing better songs by adding electronic
flavoring to their music?
How do you feel about this music becoming chart-topping mainstream hit fare?
Do you want it to stay underground? I'm curious...

Personally, I don't care if it's mainstream...just as long as they do it right.
>Peace,
>Brian

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   |        I'm on an ocean that has a brain and makes us dream...        |
   |          I'm on a mission to wipe imagination clean...               |
   |                         -Failure, "Solaris"                          |
   | DJFurball on IRC                                   Kevin in reality  |
   |                  http://www.pla-net.net/~furball                     |
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From: Brian Ruh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Why I joined this list...
Date: 16 Feb 1998 23:48:12 -0500 (EST)

> Recently, I heard Madonna's new single, "Frozen". Obviously, this was her
> attempt at taking a stab into the electronic music realm. The song was
> punctuated with various synth bits, various percussive sounds run through
> filters and delay, and a chorus consisting of a jungle-type break. The song
> itself wasn't that bad; IMHO, it was a better attempt at techno than Bush's
> "Mouth", which was a huge chart hit. The point I want to make is this; how
> do members of this list, some of you being fans of electronic music for the
> 7-year duration of Moby's career so far and some even longer than that, feel
> about pop stars trying to make techno-ish songs? Is it proliferating the
> genre, smattering it with a bad name, or do you feel that these artists are
> making a genuine attempt at writing better songs by adding electronic
> flavoring to their music?
> How do you feel about this music becoming chart-topping mainstream hit fare?
> Do you want it to stay underground? I'm curious...

Well (and I'm probably a minority on this group with this), I have absolutely
no allegiance to "electronic" (or whatever you wanna call it) music. The
only artist I really listen to on this genre is Moby himself. Also a spattering
of KMFDM, Pig, Skinny Puppy, and the like. But personally I go more towards
punk and ska. At least recently that's what I've been listening to.

But I see what you mean. In the last few years, we've seen the whole "Big
Punk Thing" and the "Big Ska Thing" break. It's really disconcerting to see
people you sort of know being played on MTV. Just strange...

I agree with the statement (that I seem to have deleted) with the gist that
"as long as they do it right." I mean, I hate to see bands such as No Doubt
being hailed as ska bands. Get it right, here, people.

People may get the wrong idea at first. "Yeah, I like 311. They're a good
ska band." Aargh! But if "pop" electronica remains in the public eye, sooner
or later people will pick up on the real stuff. I think it's a good thing.

I'm not sure if I got off track or not. It's late and I still have a
buttload (hee, that's a funny word) of homework. I think I posted more tonight
than I ever have.


peace,
Brian





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From: Norom <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Why I joined this list...
Date: 17 Feb 1998 01:10:15 -0500

>Well, from observation, it looks like a bit of both. Ryu is definately a
>leader on this list; everyone loves him, no one challenges his opinions,
>etc. This is speaking from the viewpoint of someone who's been on this list
>for about a month. Although he does make some intelligent posts, I don't
>think there should be total agreement on everything he says.

there is nothing that Ryu likes more than a good challenge.
heck, he wonders the countryside looking for a worthy opponent.
there is no better challenge than a good argument, and Ryu
welcums an argument from anyone.
agreement is boring.

with sincerity,
Norom

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 My name is Ryu.  I make hard emotional
 electronic music.  To hear some, get cds,
   and see stuff, go to my homepage at:
http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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From: Damian <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) The evil list admin speaks...
Date: 16 Feb 1998 23:39:47 -0700

Well, it's been an interesting day for the mailing list and myself (I'm
licking my wounds as I type).  I am surprised to see what people thought
of myself and the job I do in operating this list.  Who would have
thought that little me cast so much fear (you know - kicking, banning,
and the total censorship of anything to do with philosophy).

So I write in the hope that I can re-clarify what I always thought my
stance regarding philosophy and this mailing list to be.  Actually, I'm
not really going to write anything new... I'm going to re post what I
have said all along... my position isn't changing, it hasn't changed,
and I doubt it ever will.  The following email was posted in November of
1997 when this mailing list last experienced a problem regarding the
discussion of philosophy.  In case it gets missed, I'll say it here:
PHILOSOPHY IS WELCOME ON THIS LIST WHEN IT RELATES TO MOBY.

As you can see in the post below - I wasn't militant, threatening, or
condescending about the discussion.  Sure, I am wary when it comes to
philosophy because of the tendency for things to go awry.  I had hoped
that things would get restarted in the right direction... but I didn't
think it would take three months.  Anyway, the discussion that took
place today was great.  As far as I can tell, everyone kept it related
to Moby (now I feel like a broken record).

Okay, I now withdraw to my den of hell.  (:


> I thought I would finally speak up and say what I feel about the debate
> over philosophy on this mailing list.  I was kind of hoping that the
> problem would solve itself but it doesn't look like that is going to
> happen.  I'm going to keep this short and sweet because I could go on
> and on.  Of course, we can discuss it further if needed.
>
> In general, I would say I prefer to have it off the list.  While I enjoy
> seeing what people have to say about Moby's views, I don't want to see
> an ongoing debate about personal beliefs that don't have anything to do
> with Moby.  I know this is a fine line but it's there nevertheless.
>
> Most of the list members are here because of Moby's music.  Since that
> is the case, it should be the music that we discuss most.




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Moby's Musical Direction
Date: 17 Feb 1998 01:23:08 +0000

I was sitting around today glancing over at my Moby c.d. collection
that consists of 32 discs. But that's not the point. I was wandering
what tracks Moby has released in the last 7 or so years that have
truly moved me. At first I was very skeptical about a rock album
from Moby. But now that all the dust has cleared and I'm now looking
at all these c.d.'s, I'd honestly have to say that "Say It's All Mine"
from Animal Rights has moved me more than any song Moby's done.
With Moby being my favorite artist, does this mean that it's my
favorite song of all time by any group or artist? Probably not.
But I know for a fact that I have rocked so hard to that song
while I was driving my little Honda CRX more than any Moby song.
The track is just emotionally incredible. The point I'm trying to make
is will this emotion continue on the new album? Can you imagine an
electronic album from Moby with powerful lyrics like on Animal Rights?
OK that's all
Other powerful tracks from Moby IMO
-Unloved Symphony
-Hymn (alt.quiet.version)
-Go (subliminal)
-Face It
-Animal Sight
-Desperate

Good Night and thank you
RT



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From: Scott Stegenga <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby has left the list
Date: 17 Feb 1998 09:03:55 -0600

>Well, anyway, I just wanted to know, how many of you actually believe moby
>about the animals and the meat and the cars so much that you actually follow
>that lifestyle, i.e. a automobileless vegan? Just wanted to know. Later.

I had an interview with Moby way back in 1993 in Grand Rapids, MI (where I
went to college...Calvin), and we had a neat chat about our Christian
beliefs. I am a Christian myself, and like Moby, not much of a "bible
basher" like the way Christians are portrayed in the media. I'm just like
Moby...searching for truth.

But back to the main subject, we discussed this Christian view of
vegetarianism and I recall him mentioning something around the lines of
this...if God created Man to watch over his creation (the Earth and all its
creatures) and have dominion over them, then why should we kill so many
living and breathing animals, which in a way, share alot of similar things
like us? God has dominion over us and he doesn't pick us off one by one like
cherries from a tree. He wasn't vigilant on this subject, but this was his
opinion. And in a way I respect that opinion. Personally, I have reduced my
"carnivorous lifestyle" greatly and have the occasional "chicken option."
But that stuff is so full of chemicals these days, its impossible to eat
that as well.

Anyone going to the God Lives Underwater show at The Metro tonite
(tuesday)...short notice, but I'll be there. JadenX...I owe you a phone
call...sorry.
Scott Steg
...I Love Carrots





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From: "Dennis Daniels" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) UHF to N.I.T.E.(next is the e)
Date: 17 Feb 1998 09:06:08 -0600

     I've noticed that, going further past NIN, there are a lot of artists
that remix songs so much that, by the time they're done, the songs sound
nothing like the original in the sense that so much has been added and
taken away. A good example of this is Aphex Twin. When he remixes songs,
they turn out to sound completely different than anything like it did
before. (Another example:NIN's 'Fixed' e.p.)D.


---------
I suppose. Trent Reznor is another person famous for ripping himself off
like that, and I know many people who do similar mixes and give them
alternate names, out of those names come entirely different remixes. In
essence, it usually works out.

>dj tripp
>p.s. i love the fact that next is the e turns into N.I.T.E.

Hehehe, it's quite novel...

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   |          I'm on a mission to wipe imagination clean...               |
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From: "Dennis Daniels" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Sampling
Date: 17 Feb 1998 09:12:59 -0600

         I just got 'In Sides' the other day, and what is the deal with Bon
Jovi and Belinda Carlisle?

D.


----------

Lush 1, Halcyon +ON +ON, Belfast, or Kein Trink Wasser are all great
Orbital
Songs. Moby did Spead Freak and I did not really like that song. I know
this is
a off topic, but can someone please tell me if it is Halcyon or Halycon
cause I
have 3 dif albums with is Halcyon and 1 with it Halycon. I don't know what
Halycon is, and I know what Halcyon is, but Halycon sounds cooler. Now, has
Moby ever remixed any other Orbital because I love them and I would like to
see
if Moby would be able to make it better. It would be amazingly hard. Later.
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From: "Dennis Daniels" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby's gone jungle
Date: 17 Feb 1998 09:16:47 -0600

            How about "Sway"? All I can picture when I hear that song is a
storm moving over an ocean with a buoy swaying in the wind. I LOVE that
song (and about 99.987% of the rest of his songs) It's not jungle, but it's
good anyway.

     D.


----------

>That's a nice remix, but really weak "jungle".  Though I'm sure I'll
>enjoy any excursions Moby makes into drum & bass, he should probably
>leave the serious jungle to the pros and trade remixes with them.  He
>could turn their 'musical wallpaper' into neat emotional songs, while
>they take his material and mash it up!


We can't forget Dark either; even if it was a tad repetative.  I really
hope
he decides to experiment with something like that again...
Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page:
http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm





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From: "Dennis Daniels" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) speed garage
Date: 17 Feb 1998 09:21:40 -0600

       Uberzone also did an excellent remix of The Crystal Method's "Busy
Child" on the single. Other than that, though, I have no idea who Uberzone
is.??.D.


----------

I agree with Aphex Twin. :) Richard D. James should make some interesting
tracks out of Moby's work. Other than that, I suppose I'd like to see what
an Uberzone mix of Moby would sound like. They've done some superb mixes
for
Keoki...

>cheers
>==
>Adios Amigos,
>      ~~PAUL~~
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From: Dan Legare <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) moby's intentions
Date: 17 Feb 1998 07:39:28 -0700

>Now that I have read 20 minutes worth of 4 posts, I feel the need to
>respond. I
>have not been here for more than a month, but I have noticed that you are all
>right. However, I don't know if every post, or even the majority, should be
>about personal moby. For myself, I like hearing about Moby's songs, because
>everyone here has shown me how little I actually know. I had 16 Moby CDs and
>thought I was a hot shot. I guess I was wrong. I would like to know about
>Moby,
>but not to the point that I know more about him than myself. In my mind, It
>would be kind of violating him to examine every move he makes. If you think we
>should examine, then lets examine him through his songs. Who cares about where
>he lives, or what color clothes he wears unless he wrote a song about him. I
>mean, sure I don't like the "I think he should remix Heathcliff" or something
>like that, but how deep do we have to get. If you are going to go that far, at
>least put a little (W) to warn me in your title so I can prepare myself to
>read
>the post. Well....To qoute the great Dennis Miller, "That's just my opinion, I
>could be wrong."
>Well, anyway, I just wanted to know, how many of you actually believe moby
>about the animals and the meat and the cars so much that you actually follow
>that lifestyle, i.e. a automobileless vegan? Just wanted to know. Later.

right on. first and foremost, and i am playing devil's advocate, pardon the
pun, but if someone has to go to the extremes as printing essays in cd
sleeves that end up selling hundred's of thousands of cds, then he is out
to make more then just a mere point. i agree for the most part with moby's
writings and respect his thoughts and trying to put myself in his shoes, i
don't think he would want someone to follow his thoughts to the point that
the individual reading it would alter their life. this would make it the
cult of moby. he has way to many things to worry about than be responsible
for those who follow his 'teachings'. these things like becoming
environmentally, socially, politically aware comes from within. the true
value of individual philosophy is that it isn't directly influenced from
outside forces. these are personal issues.
being a vegetarian for 7 years, i made a decision to alter my diet from
animal flesh and had to start taking supliments and eating things like tofu
and beans etc. this was a decision i made for myself, by myself. the beauty
of coming to a personal realization is something, i think anyway, is what
moby is trying to express. i think knowledge in knowing the true colors of
this world, is power, and power from within is where you will find the
strenght to change the world for yourself.

or am i naive?

one last thing, you don't have to be angry at the world to know that there
are things wrong with it.


Dan Legare
Nettwerk Mail Order Department
[e-mail]
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PH-604.654.2929  FX-604.654.1993 [e-mail]
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From: "Rekkit" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Move me
Date: 17 Feb 1998 10:40:37 -0800

>at all these c.d.'s, I'd honestly have to say that "Say It's All Mine"


"Did you ever slip inside my ozone?" Has been a favorite line of mine for
some time now ;)

Does anybody else have specific Moby tracks that move them?  I mean *really*
move you, like virtually to tears.  I know personally I can't listen to When
It's Cold I'd Like To Die, Love Song For My Mom, or especially Living
without welling up a bit...

Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page:
http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm





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From: "Rekkit" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Sampling
Date: 17 Feb 1998 10:43:11 -0800

>         I just got 'In Sides' the other day, and what is the deal with Bon
>Jovi and Belinda Carlisle?


From what I understand when they play live, they do an extended mix of
Halcyon that ends with Bon Jovi & Belinda Carlisle.  I'm totally serious;
it's on one of the UK imports of Insides I believe (the 2cd without the
28min Box & without the Saint I believe.)....
Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page:
http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm





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From: Dan Legare <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #90
Date: 17 Feb 1998 07:49:53 -0700

>       Uberzone also did an excellent remix of The Crystal Method's "Busy
>Child" on the single. Other than that, though, I have no idea who Uberzone
>is.??.D.

they also did sarah mclachlan's 'sweet surrender', how's that for the
'madonna-doing-electronic' debate?

Dan Legare
Nettwerk Mail Order Department
[e-mail]
Nettwerk Productions-Box 330 1755 Robson St. Vancouver, BC V6G 2B5
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From: but not _the_ frankz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby has left the list
Date: 17 Feb 1998 09:42:13 -0700

At 04:30 PM 2/16/98 EST, you wrote:
ABSOLUTE TOP_MAIL! TOP TOP TOP!

>great gospel session guys, i think we shouldnt stray too far off coarse
>though.  Its really is great to get to know a little something about everyone
>you are talking to; but, we wont be talking that much longer after they kick
>us off the list for forgetting moby.  We should all add our 2 cents worth
>while talking about moby.  Plovious and ryu, i respect you both.  You know
>what we should do, we should have our own church of Moby.  Then everyone,
>including myself, can bitch about politics, religion, philosophy, while still
>on the subject of moby!!!!  Its just a though, but what the hell, most of us
>have nothing else to do.  Jackin it gets old, and talking about moby lyrics
>gets even older.  Someone interview him damnit, figure this stuff out.
>
>


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From: but not _the_ frankz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby has left the list -- Reply part two
Date: 17 Feb 1998 09:42:18 -0700

At 04:50 PM 2/16/98 -0600, you wrote:
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ryu
>>to be a hypocrite....

He says his personal spiritual epiphany came
>from reading Matthew 5-7, Christ's "Sermon On the Mount." Not a bad place to
>start if you want to find a practical, working philosophy for Christianity.
>
>BSC

hey,
Matthew being the sweetest guy in the wholy Bible,
what is your NEW signature?

Brad, i love you


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From: but not _the_ frankz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby has left the list
Date: 17 Feb 1998 09:42:20 -0700

At 01:43 PM 2/16/98 -0700, you wrote:
>i have to agree w/ Ryu here.

. it's like turning on a light switch in a
>cluttered room... no more bumping into hard objects and bruising my knees.
>:P
>Blessed Be,
>Plovious

this is the kind of Mobility i like


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From: but not _the_ frankz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) speed moby voodoo garage ambient child
Date: 17 Feb 1998 09:42:24 -0700

uhuhh!... urgh...
before you guys get messed up
in a discussion about jungle speed garage ambient sort this out out first:

(i knew i'd need this for further reference, thanks to our Swedish
contributor JJ!)
[frankz quoting the LIST!]

>Return-Path: <[e-mail]>
>X-Sender: [e-mail] (Unverified)
>Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 01:10:56 -0400
>To: but not _the_ frankz <[e-mail]>
>From: "Johan Jaatinen" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: list electronica labelling
>
>Here you go...
>
>Abstract Techno
>Acid
>Acid Ambient
>Acid House
>Acid Jazz
>Acid Trance
>Ambient
>Ambient-EnvironMental
>Ambient Dub
>Ambient Jungle
>Ambient Techno
>Ambient Trance
>Amyl House
>Bass
>Bass & Drum
>Beats
>Big Beat
>Bouncy Techno
>Breakbeat
>Breakcore
>Breaks
>Break-trance
>Brit Hop
>Chemical Beats
>Chicago (Chicago House)
>Chill Out
>Coffee-Table Jungle
>Dancehall
>Dark Ambient
>Darkcore
>Darkside
>Darkside Hardstep
>Darkstep
>Darkwave
>Death Ambient
>Deep
>Deep House
>Deep Space
>Detroit (Detroit Techno)
>Digi-funk
>Digital Hardcore
>Dolphin
>Drill & Bass
>Drum & Bass
>Dub
>EBM
>Electro (Elektro)
>Electronica
>Elektro-Jazz
>Elektronik Fusion Music (EFM)
>Ethereal
>Ethno-trance
>Ethno-techno
>Euro (Eurotechno, eurodisco)
>Experimental
>Funglen
>Fuzak
>Gabber (Gabba)
>Garage
>Goa (Goa Trance)
>Gothic
>Grindcore
>Handbag
>Happy Gabba
>Happy Hardcore (Happy Hard)
>Hardbag
>Hardcore
>Hardhouse
>Hard Step (Hardstepper)
>Hardtrance
>Hi-NRG
>Hip-Hop
>Hip-Hop Stylee
>House
>Hypermodern Digi-Jazz
>Illbient
>Industrial
>Intelligent Dance Music (IDM)
>Intelligent Drum & Bass
>Intelligent Jungle
>Isolationism
>Jazzy
>Jazzstep
>Jump-up
>Jungle
>Late Romantic
>Miami Bass
>Minimal
>Neo-Gothic
>New Age
>New Jazz Beats
>Noise (Noize)
>Oldschool
>Phuture Phunk
>Post-Industrial
>Post-Punk
>Post-Rock
>Post-Techno
>Prog-Jungle
>Psychedelic
>Ragga
>Rare Grooves
>Rave
>Softhouse
>Slambient
>Smokin Beats
>Space
>Space Age Pop
>Speedcore
>Synth Pop
>Tech-House
>Techno
>Techstep
>Trance
>Tribal
>Trip & Bass
>Trip Hop
>
>____________________________________________________________________
>Johan Jaatinen, Umea, Sweden   [e-mail] / [e-mail]

by the way,
i love dj's talk about philosophy
and philosophers talk about music....

or was it the other way around?

frankz


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From: "Ciccone, Nancy J." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Why I joined this list...
Date: 17 Feb 1998 10:11:00 -0500




Recently, I heard Madonna's new single, "Frozen". Obviously, this was
her
attempt at taking a stab into the electronic music realm. The song was
punctuated with various synth bits, various percussive sounds run
through
filters and delay, and a chorus consisting of a jungle-type break. The
song
itself wasn't that bad; IMHO, it was a better attempt at techno than
Bush's
"Mouth", which was a huge chart hit. The point I want to make is this;
how
do members of this list, some of you being fans of electronic music for
the
7-year duration of Moby's career so far and some even longer than that,
feel
about pop stars trying to make techno-ish songs? Is it proliferating the
genre, smattering it with a bad name, or do you feel that these artists
are
making a genuine attempt at writing better songs by adding electronic
flavoring to their music?
How do you feel about this music becoming chart-topping mainstream hit
fare?
Do you want it to stay underground? I'm curious...

Personally, I don't care if it's mainstream...just as long as they do it
right.
>Peace,
>Brian



I just want to say that I agree.  I could care less what is "mainstream"
and what isn't.  If something sounds good and makes me want to move -
that's all I care about.  I see nothing wrong with a pop artist trying
to expand on their musical knowledge and talents.  And I would like to
hear more "underground" on the radio.

But, on the other hand, I don't really like to go to clubs that are
packed with people that only know "mainstream".  I feel that they really
don't appreciate the music - they might just be into what's "cool" at
the time.  I think they are the ones who give it a bad name.



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From: [e-mail] (sarah j mamott)
Subject: Re: (mobility) Move me
Date: 17 Feb 1998 11:52:40 EST

>Does anybody else have specific Moby tracks that move them?  I mean
>*really*
>move you, like virtually to tears.  I know personally I can't listen
>to When
>It's Cold I'd Like To Die, Love Song For My Mom, or especially Living
>without welling up a bit...

when it's cold i'd like to die and into the blue do it to me everytime. i
take them extremely personally, sometimes to my advantage (alone in my
room) , other times not (in the car)

boo hoo,
sarah

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From: [e-mail] (sarah j mamott)
Subject: Re: (mobility) Sampling
Date: 17 Feb 1998 11:52:40 EST

>>From what I understand when they play live, they do an extended mix
>of
>Halcyon that ends with Bon Jovi & Belinda Carlisle.  I'm totally
>serious;
>it's on one of the UK imports of Insides I believe (the 2cd without
>the
>28min Box & without the Saint I believe.)....

yes.. i saw them last summer.. they do indeed play this, and it is DAMN
funny !! i wasn't familiar w/ the somg at the time and neither were most
of the people around me.. jsut before they started on the "shot through
the heart, and you're to blame.." thing, they both started laughing..
then when they did it, the crowd went insane. . .it was excellent

sarah

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From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) beliefs, remixes, Orbital, etc.
Date: 17 Feb 1998 09:05:06 -0800 (PST)




As for all this philosophy talk, alls I gots ta say is I'm Jewish, not
Vegan, and I walk or ride a bike.

My copy of Insides which I bought in 96 doesnt have the live Halcyon,
but I saw the vid of it on AMP (where they dubbed it "Live
Experience"). Yes, what is up with Bon Jovi and Belinda Carlisle?
Maybe they've been watching 8-track flashback or something...I don't
have any other Orbital cds though.

I think Halcyon is a very powerful song. I don't have Animal Rights,
so I don't know about those songs.

Yeah, Aphex remixing, he must really reconstruct the track. I've never
heard his remixes, but I've heard that they are "so utterly obliterate
of the originals that it counts as all new Aphex.". (Spin guide to
Alternative Music 1995)The thing about remixing is some remixers just
basically add a disco beat to the song, some add a whole new element
to the song, and some just make a new song and pass it off as a remix.
I mean, when Van Helden does a remix, he just makes a disco version of
the song(which most of the time is pretty bad, IMO). But like on the
Bjork remix cd, most of the songs add whole new elements to the
originals Like the classical version of Hyperballad (her best song,
IMO, and one of her most emotional...track 2 on her cds are usually
the most emotional ones on the disc) and the rap version of I Miss
You. The remixes are the best when they do this.
But some just make a whole new song, like the Masseymix of Army Of Me,
which takes away the vocals. Or the Goldie mix of Bush's Swallowed. Or
the Chembros mix of Prodigy's Voodoo People. I mean, all these mixes,
the song is good, but they just ruin the song. (well, except the bush
remix, i like that one more than the original) This can be good and
bad. If AFX did a remix of Moby, it would be cool if he added an
element to the song. But I guess it would just sound like new AFX.
Which is good, because AFX ROCKS, but it wouldn't really be Moby,
which is the point.
Bla Bla Bla yackety schmackety...g'bye Mobilitians

==
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      ~~PAUL~~


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From: "Stuart Adair" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Sampling
Date: 17 Feb 1998 17:07:05 -0000



>>         I just got 'In Sides' the other day, and what is the deal with
Bon
>>Jovi and Belinda Carlisle?
>
>
>From what I understand when they play live, they do an extended mix of
>Halcyon that ends with Bon Jovi & Belinda Carlisle.  I'm totally serious;
>it's on one of the UK imports of Insides I believe (the 2cd without the
>28min Box & without the Saint I believe.)....


Yeah, I taped this off the radio a while ago; towards they end, they mix in
Bon Jovi's "You Give Love a Bad Name" and Belinda Carlisle's "Heaven is a
Place on Earth". It really has to be heard to be believed :)

Stuart
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From: [e-mail] (Ryan Taylor)
Subject: Re: (mobility) Why I joined this list...
Date: 17 Feb 1998 10:41:17 -0500

>The point I want to make is this; how
>do members of this list, some of you being fans of electronic music for the
>7-year duration of Moby's career so far and some even longer than that, feel
>about pop stars trying to make techno-ish songs?

If music groups want to "dabble" in other genre's..that's fine with me..It
might turn out great in some cases(Did Moby not turn "techno"?  If I have my
history correct..he was pure punk in his early early days).

>Is it proliferating the
>genre, smattering it with a bad name, or do you feel that these artists are
>making a genuine attempt at writing better songs by adding electronic
>flavoring to their music?

I think it depends on the group and why they're doing it.  I'll have less
respect for a group who's doing just because it's the "hip" thing at the
moment.  It doesn't surprise me about Madonna's direction..It seems like
it's the only natural progression.

>How do you feel about this music becoming chart-topping mainstream hit fare?
>Do you want it to stay underground? I'm curious...

This will always be debated..it'd be nice if Moby would become more
mainstream..Then maybe I'd be able to see him live..maybe Mute would start
releasing stuff domestically and I could stop paying import prices..But it's
nice when it's underground..it's yours..and only a select few ppl know about
it..Now I don't have a elitest(sp?) attitude..but for example..I was at the
Sno-Core Tour Sunday night..in between bands they were playing South Park
episodes..A few of us knew the show really well(The two local cable
companies don't carry Comedy Central...I only get it because I subscribe to
one of the minidishes)..So we were saying the lines along w/ the show..A lot
of ppl looked at us strange..It was a great feeling :).

I don't see all of "electronic" music becoming mainstream in the U.S.  A
majority of ppl in the U.S. need their bands on
stage..singing..dancing..etc..not behind machines(IMHO..this is why bands
like The Prodigy took off).  I think the music industry saw that
electronica(as they call it..horf) wasn't the next "grunge"..so they're
gonna move on.

>Personally, I don't care if it's mainstream...just as long as they do it right.

I'm gonna try to stop this debate right here..Let's not start debating
what's the right way to do electronic music..We all know what we like/don't
like..That's all that's needed :)

Ryan
np:  Brainiac:  "Hissing Prigs In Static Couture"

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Sampling
Date: 17 Feb 1998 18:51:31 GMT

Ok, about the Orbital live Halcyon. ( I am sorry this is off topic ) They do mix
in those two songs, and personally ,I think that it is one of the coolest
things I have ever heard from my stereo. Taking their song - Halcyon (which is
an awesome song as it is) and adding two random 80s songs that flow so
perfectly. I have never heard of such a thing, but it is amazing. I would love
to see some more music like that, even by Moby, because I am sure that I have
heard too many Moby songs with the same beat and (fill in music term) before.

And by the way, someone said about The prodigy taking off because they aren't
behind machines. I don't disagree with that, but it was "Prodigy" that took
off. Liam left behind "The Prodigy" with Jilted Generation. I am so pissed of
with that, and I just felt  had to say something. Later.
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From: theShackofXaq <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) orbital
Date: 17 Feb 1998 13:03:29 -0600 (CST)

quickly...

i haven't heard halcyon live. i got the album long ago when it came with
"the box." would anyone be so kind as to send me a tape of it? halcyon is
my fav orbital tune.
ok, done.
oh, and reply personally only please.
-xaq-
"People have power not only depending on how much they know, but also what
they are prepared to find out!" alec empire




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) list list list
Date: 17 Feb 1998 15:04:33 EST

Here's a couple more,

<< >Abstract Techno
 >Acid
 >Acid Ambient
 >Acid House
 >Acid Jazz
 >Acid Trance
 >Ambient
 >Ambient-EnvironMental
 >Ambient Dub
 >Ambient Jungle
 >Ambient Techno
 >Ambient Trance
 >Amyl House
 >Bass
 >Bass & Drum
 >Beats
 >Big Beat
 >Bouncy Techno
 >Breakbeat
 >Breakcore
 >Breaks
 >Break-trance
 >Brit Hop
 >Chemical Beats
 >Chicago (Chicago House)
 >Chill Out
 >Coffee-Table Jungle
 >Dancehall
 >Dark Ambient
 >Darkcore
 >Darkside
 >Darkside Hardstep
 >Darkstep
 >Darkwave
 >Death Ambient
 >Deep
 >Deep House
 >Deep Space
 >Detroit (Detroit Techno)
 >Digi-funk
 >Digital Hardcore
 >Dolphin
 >Drill & Bass
 >Drum & Bass
 >Dub
 >EBM
 >Electro (Elektro)
 >Electronica
 >Elektro-Jazz
 >Elektronik Fusion Music (EFM)
 >Ethereal
 >Ethno-trance
 >Ethno-techno
 >Euro (Eurotechno, eurodisco)
 >Experimental
 >Funglen
 >Fuzak
 >Gabber (Gabba)
 >Garage
 >Goa (Goa Trance)
 >Gothic
 >Grindcore
 >Handbag
 >Happy Gabba
 >Happy Hardcore (Happy Hard)
 >Hardbag
 >Hardcore
 >Hardhouse
 >Hard Step (Hardstepper)
 >Hardtrance
 >Hi-NRG
 >Hip-Hop
 >Hip-Hop Stylee
 >House
 >Hypermodern Digi-Jazz
 >Illbient
 >Industrial
 >Intelligent Dance Music (IDM)
 >Intelligent Drum & Bass
 >Intelligent Jungle
 >Isolationism
 >Jazzy
 >Jazzstep
 >Jump-up
 >Jungle
 >Late Romantic
 >Miami Bass
 >Minimal
 >Neo-Gothic
 >New Age
 >New Jazz Beats
 >Noise (Noize)
 >Oldschool
 >Phuture Phunk
 >Post-Industrial
 >Post-Punk
 >Post-Rock
 >Post-Techno
 >Prog-Jungle
Progressive House         <-----You Forgot These Two Favorite Genres Of Mine
Progressive Trance        <------------
 >Psychedelic
 >Ragga
 >Rare Grooves
 >Rave
 >Softhouse
 >Slambient
 >Smokin Beats
 >Space
 >Space Age Pop
 >Speedcore
 >Synth Pop
 >Tech-House
 >Techno
 >Techstep
 >Trance
 >Tribal
 >Trip & Bass
 >Trip Hop >>

dj tripp



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Madonna
Date: 17 Feb 1998 15:07:19 EST

Of the list track,

Has anyone heard the new Madonna track, i think its called "frozen". I heard
it this morning and it sounds alot like Olive. I already want to remix it.
Turn it into some good prog. house or trancey breakbeat tracks.

dj tripp



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Moved To Tears
Date: 17 Feb 1998 15:17:07 EST

One night i was with my ex girlfriend who was moving the next day. I was
listening to GMOTFOTW and i just sorta stopped everything to remember that
moment. Here i was losing my girlfriend of over a year to a few hundred miles
and this song was still only out for a few days at the time. I think of her
everytime I hear it. Its one of the most moving peices of music i know. Hymn
(european mix) is also a great dance piece that i've never danced to, and
never will. When Its Cold I'd LIke To Die is a no brainer...

Whoever it was that posted that they really liked Say Its All Mine alot, i've
done a remix caled the "Ozone Mix" I've been talking with a certain member of
this list and will be making a couple of my mixes available to everyone.

DJ TRIPP



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Move me
Date: 17 Feb 1998 16:30:11 EST


In a message dated 2/17/98 9:40:58 AM, you wrote:

<<Does anybody else have specific Moby tracks that move them?  I mean *really*

move you, like virtually to tears.  I know personally I can't listen to When

It's Cold I'd Like To Die, Love Song For My Mom, or especially Living

without welling up a bit...

>>

I gotta say, as for the tears part, First Cool Hive off of "everything is
wrong" get me everytime....I always get chills everytime the vocals come
in....(I also Love the first two tracks on The End of Everything...I would
tell you the names of them, but

a DJ here in Chicago is borrowing it.....BAH!)

Two songs that set me in the biggest trance and I could listen to forever are
Ah-Ah and I feel it (synthe mix)....pop those in and Fil is ready to go......

Filthy Fil : )



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moved To Tears
Date: 17 Feb 1998 15:45:48 +0000

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> One night i was with my ex girlfriend who was moving the next day. I was
> listening to GMOTFOTW and i just sorta stopped everything to remember that
> moment. Here i was losing my girlfriend of over a year to a few hundred miles
> and this song was still only out for a few days at the time. I think of her
> everytime I hear it. Its one of the most moving peices of music i know. Hymn
> (european mix) is also a great dance piece that i've never danced to, and
> never will. When Its Cold I'd LIke To Die is a no brainer...
>
> Whoever it was that posted that they really liked Say Its All Mine alot, i've
> done a remix caled the "Ozone Mix" I've been talking with a certain member of
> this list and will be making a couple of my mixes available to everyone.
>
> DJ TRIPP


Oh Yes!!! A "Say It's All Mine" Remix that sounds great...
I'd love to have that
Rt
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From: Furball <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Why I joined this list...
Date: 17 Feb 1998 15:57:37 -0600 (CST)

At 01:10 AM 2/17/98 -0500, you wrote:
>there is nothing that Ryu likes more than a good challenge.
>heck, he wonders the countryside looking for a worthy opponent.
>there is no better challenge than a good argument, and Ryu
>welcums an argument from anyone.
>agreement is boring.

Hehe. Well, I'm sorry if I appeared to be a Sagat for a minute there. ;P

>with sincerity,
>Norom
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> My name is Ryu.  I make hard emotional
> electronic music.  To hear some, get cds,
>   and see stuff, go to my homepage at:
>http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Ryu  |  [e-mail]  |  814-867-0756
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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From: Furball <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby has left the list
Date: 17 Feb 1998 16:01:35 -0600 (CST)

At 09:03 AM 2/17/98 -0600, you wrote:
>Anyone going to the God Lives Underwater show at The Metro tonite
>(tuesday)...short notice, but I'll be there. JadenX...I owe you a phone
>call...sorry.

ARGH!!! Why didn't you mention they were touring earlier? I love GLU!!! To
miss this opportunity is a deep pain for me, but alas, being 16 years old,
without a car, I can't go on such short notice. :(

>Scott Steg
>...I Love Carrots
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From: Furball <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) UHF to N.I.T.E.(next is the e)
Date: 17 Feb 1998 16:05:52 -0600 (CST)

At 09:06 AM 2/17/98 -0600, you wrote:
>     I've noticed that, going further past NIN, there are a lot of artists
>that remix songs so much that, by the time they're done, the songs sound
>nothing like the original in the sense that so much has been added and
>taken away. A good example of this is Aphex Twin. When he remixes songs,
>they turn out to sound completely different than anything like it did
>before. (Another example:NIN's 'Fixed' e.p.)D.

Aphex Twin doesn't do remixes; he has so many tracks recorded on his
computer that he just loads one up that has a few similarities and calls it
a remix. :) Seriously, that's his method. He's admitted to doing a
Lemonheads "remix" where the postman showed up at his door and asked for the
tape, he told them to hold on for 5 minutes, fished out some archaic tape of
his works, and gave it to the guy. :) Evan Dando wasn't exactly pleased. :P



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From: "Evil Ninja" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) concert question
Date: 17 Feb 1998 14:17:38 PST

sorry that this is off the subject of moby but i am going to a CRYSTAL
METHOD and BT(david holmes) concert this friday the 20 in dc and was
wondering if it would have any moshing to crowd surfing. or would it be
more like a rave dance type thing. this is the first, more or
less,techno concert and want an overview of the bands performances. now
don't get me wrong i have heard their music but wanted to know how the
crowd reacts to a electronica concert involving CRYSTAL METHOD and BT.

To make this somewhat involve moby(the man) earlier i read a post that
wanted to know who could remix some of moby's stuff and i came up with
two good ones
MEAT BEAT MANIFESTO
TRENT REZNOR(a mortal god) yes believe it or not i feel that trent and
moby would make an interesting duo. being that trent is becoming more
and more involved with the electronica sound(which i love from trent)!


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From: Furball <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Move me
Date: 17 Feb 1998 16:17:43 -0600 (CST)

At 10:40 AM 2/17/98 -0800, you wrote:
>Does anybody else have specific Moby tracks that move them?  I mean *really*
>move you, like virtually to tears.  I know personally I can't listen to When
>It's Cold I'd Like To Die, Love Song For My Mom, or especially Living
>without welling up a bit...

Yup. God Moving Over The Face Of The Waters always does it for me. Unloved
Symphony always does it for me; whenever I listen to it, I always get a
visualization of a person, running in what appears to be a mix of hatred and
desperation, through a snowy forest or countryside. The person climbs up a
harrowingly dangerous and steep rock surface. When they reach the top,
there's a beautiful shot of the distance and a rapidly running river below.
As the song climaxes and goes through the major change halfway through, the
person suddenly jumps off the surface, filled with tears of happiness at the
release of the suffering that is life. The daydream ends with a shot of some
birds on the horizon, flying behind a gray sky starting to give way to a
streak of beautiful red shades...

Sorry if I was overdramatic, but if anyone here directs films/short clips,
possibly an idea? :P Send me the results if so.

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From: Furball <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) More tracks that move me...
Date: 17 Feb 1998 16:38:12 -0600 (CST)

Heh...almost forgot...

The first time I heard Anthem (Cinematic Mix) I started crying my eyes out
for no apparent reason. I've come to realize that at the time it seemed a
reflection of my daily futile struggle to make it in this society. I've
never been able to listen to it without crying. I'm also pretty moved by
Move (Electro Mix). Thousand makes me want to kill people; similar to
listening to Atari Teenage Riot or any other good hardcore/gabber. :)

The tracks that make me want to dance the most are probably:
1. Voodoo Child (Poor In NY Mix)
2. Move (You Make Me Feel So Good)
3. All that I Need Is To Be Loved (MV)
4. Bring Back My Happiness
5. Into The Blue (Uplifting 4-Beat Mix) <-- OK, Moby didn't remix it. Too bad ;P
6. Next Is The E (Club Mix)
7. Feeling So Real (Ecstatic Mix)
8. Horses
9. Ah-Ah
10. Have You Seen My Baby

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From: Daniel Lee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Move me
Date: 17 Feb 1998 14:49:00 -0800



Furball wrote:

> At 10:40 AM 2/17/98 -0800, you wrote:
> >Does anybody else have specific Moby tracks that move them?  I mean *really*
> >move you, like virtually to tears.  I know personally I can't listen to When
> >It's Cold I'd Like To Die, Love Song For My Mom, or especially Living
> >without welling up a bit...

Oh, God yes.

"Into the Blue" rips my heart out everytime I hear it, "Shining" fills my chest
with such an incredible feeling...
"Everytime You Touch Me" (Beatmasters' 7" mix) is the sort of song that makes me
love life,
I LOVE "Reject" off "End of Everything"...
I could go on forever.
    "Ah-ah", "Go" (I Like to Score mix), "Alone", "Say It's All Mine", "Old",
whoever it was that described Moby's music as "soul wrenching" could not have
said it better.

Oh, and thank you everyone who helped me figure out a good vegetarian diet. I've
already started.

Dan




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) hi from a fellow moBy fan...
Date: 17 Feb 1998 18:12:40 EST

Hello xaq...
            I usually read your mobility e-mail, because I find your quotes
quite cute. I assume that you go to the U of Minnesota, but I could be wrong.
I have a good friend who is a freshman there, but I am (unfortunately) still a
senior here in St.Paul. Well, if, in fact you are from MN, I was curious if
you saw MObY and Juno Reactor down @ 1st Ave.? I did, and I thought it was an
excellent show that he put on...I really enjoyed it. Hmmm, if you have no idea
what I am talking about, disregard this.... otherwise, e-mail me back, if you
want.
Hope to talk to you soon!
~cheers~
Jessica ( a possible fellow Minnesotan)



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From: "ultraviolet" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Madonna electronica
Date: 17 Feb 1998 15:55:23 -0600

I don't think Madonna is "trying" to get into the electronica thing at all.
Sure, the song has the hallmark "electronica" elements in it, more so than
her previous songs, but the fact is that Madonna has always been using
keyboards and dancey bits.  Look at "Borderline" or "Lucky Star" for
example.  I easily consider those as contenders in the new-wave synth-pop
battles of the 80's.  I'm not saying that Madonna is in the same league as
Depeche Mode, Erasure, or other synth-pop groups of that stature, just that
Madonna is no stranger to electronics in music.  I do think that Bush, on
the other hand, jumped on the electronica train BIG TIME with their
"Deconstructed".  And this is because their previous efforts had hardly a
smidgen of electronics (synths) in them (I can't recall any use of synths.
Correct me if you think of something.)  But about Madonna's song again, even
though it has electronica sounds in it, it still sounds fresh, new.  And
that is what I like about it.  RRR

ps.  I've just put up what I call "a simple symposium" on Marilyn Manson and
my reaction to society's misconceptions theirof.  You can read this at the
belowmentioned site.  And no, I don't get any "hitpoints" for you going
there, I don't even have a counter, so this is not a publicity stunt.
Purely for your information.  I have remnants from Manson's appearance on
Bill Maher's "Politically Incorrect" that you may also find amusing.  (The
counter on the page is fake, for amusement only.)  RRR

ps.  Sorry for the lack of Moby content, but taking into account what's
being talked about on the list right now, I think this message is suitable
and excusable.  RRR
|| R| Erasure: Delobbo Remix .MP3's:  http://members.xoom.com/delobbo
|| P| 242.cure.depeche_MODE.erasure.megadeth.moby.|\|||/|.nitzer_ebb.U2.
|| D| alice_in_chains.marilyn_manson.ministry.new_order.pet_shop_boys.




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From: TYCO Wench <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moved To Tears
Date: 17 Feb 1998 19:36:03 -0500 (EST)

I must say that feeling so real moves me like no other, especially the
"take me away" break down in the middle--I love putting that song on full
blast, laying on my bed with my eyes closed, and just imagining the look I
saw on Moby's face when he "sang" that
part here in New Haven.  So amazing...
I also am a big fan of track number 2 and 5 (slow suicide?) on the end of
everything, when its
cold I'd like to die, first cool hive, and into the blue.

--marjorana





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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moved To Tears
Date: 17 Feb 1998 19:53:12 EST

yeah..definitely.....i mean...the amount of power that song has is
incredible....i was at the show in NYC right in the front...i noticed the way
he moved and it was like no other song played at that show....it really
brought a tear of happines to my eye.... and i just kept on
dancing....love..elie



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Say It's All Mine (Ozone Mix)
Date: 17 Feb 1998 19:09:57 +0000

I believe it was DJ Tripp that said he has produced a remix of
"Say It's All Mine". I was wandering how you were going to make this
available for everyone to hear.
I have done remixes of the tracks "80" and "Bad Days" from the ambient
cd. They're really cool.
RT
[e-mail]



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From: Little Drummer Boy <[e-mail]>
Date: 17 Feb 1998 20:08:14 -0500 (EST)

I think the Moby songs that most move me are the two already mentioned
numerous times (GMOTFOTW and When It's Cold...) but, even more so, Oil 1.
The trak has a wonderful, relaxing quality to it, and a great trancy feel,
but it still has a solid driving force and a consistent motion to it.  I
think this combination of Trancy feel and solid propulsive force is one of
the most difficult things to achieve in music.  Yet another example of the
great skill and talent of our friend Moby.  I have also been very
impressed by the versions of Anthem on EIW, both the standard US release
and the 2-cd remix album.

****************************************************************
Your parents always told you:    |    What they meant was:
                |
Early to bed,            |    Early to rise,
  Early to rise,        |      Early to bed,
Makes a man healthy,        |    Makes a man healthy,
  Wealthy, and wise.        |      But socially dead.

REMEMBER THESE WORDS
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         forget what it is that we are trying for."

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From: "Michaela Gerstner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) the electronica wave
Date: 17 Feb 1998 18:54:59 -0700

well.. i do hate to see that music must have a "trend", but i guess it
doesn't really bother me.  i think ppl should listen to music because they
like it, not because it's in.  i think that "trends" on the other hand,
open ppl up to other forms of music.  hopefully, that love will stay w/
them.  it is upsetting to hear ppl talk about these bands that are on the
current "trend", though, because you know that they don't really like it,
they just pretend to.  i don't want to judge them, though, because this is
them trying to find themselves... and if they need to experiment w/
music-so be it.  that what i feel anyway.
Blessed Be,
Plovious

http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Vines/3589/

"we are not human beings having a spiritual experience,
we are spiritual beings having a human experience."



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From: "Michaela Gerstner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Move me
Date: 17 Feb 1998 19:08:29 -0700

Morning Dove on move really gets me going... i like the drumming and the
beat.. also Into the Blue really does me in... it reaches into my soul and
makes me feel all these feelings that i never knew i had.  then, of course,
Say It's All Mine is all time fav.  it has emotion in it, the way MOBY
sings it just really... i dunno.. drawns me in.  those are just a few.  i
have lots, but i don't know the titles yet because i just recently got the
CD's.. so this will have to do.
Blessed Be,
Plovious
http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Vines/3589/

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> From: Furball <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: (mobility) Move me
> Date: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 3:17 PM
>
> At 10:40 AM 2/17/98 -0800, you wrote:
> >Does anybody else have specific Moby tracks that move them?  I mean
*really*
> >move you, like virtually to tears.  I know personally I can't listen to
When
> >It's Cold I'd Like To Die, Love Song For My Mom, or especially Living
> >without welling up a bit...
>
> Yup. God Moving Over The Face Of The Waters always does it for me.
Unloved
> Symphony always does it for me; whenever I listen to it, I always get a
> visualization of a person, running in what appears to be a mix of hatred
and
> desperation, through a snowy forest or countryside. The person climbs up
a
> harrowingly dangerous and steep rock surface. When they reach the top,
> there's a beautiful shot of the distance and a rapidly running river
below.
> As the song climaxes and goes through the major change halfway through,
the
> person suddenly jumps off the surface, filled with tears of happiness at
the
> release of the suffering that is life. The daydream ends with a shot of
some
> birds on the horizon, flying behind a gray sky starting to give way to a
> streak of beautiful red shades...
>
> Sorry if I was overdramatic, but if anyone here directs films/short
clips,
> possibly an idea? :P Send me the results if so.
>
> >-------------------------------------------------------------------
> >Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page:
> >http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm
>
*-----------------------=====================--------------------------*
>    |        I'm on an ocean that has a brain and makes us dream...
|
>    |          I'm on a mission to wipe imagination clean...
|
>    |                         -Failure, "Solaris"
|
>    | DJFurball on IRC                                   Kevin in reality
|
>    |                  http://www.pla-net.net/~furball
|
>
*-----------------------=====================--------------------------*
>



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From: John Turpin <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Move (drums on the move)
Date: 17 Feb 1998 20:13:20 -0600

Everyone who has the hardware or software to do it should try playing
ethan's "Move" mix at different speeds. It still sounds cool when played at
a fraction of it's normal speed. I especially like that I was able to pick
out several familiar breaks this way.

--
    C        The C.O.D.         John Turpin
    |                <jct1@
   / \                Ra.MsState.Edu>
  O   D    <http://www2.msstate.edu/~jct1/cod/>





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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Move Me, Orbital
Date: 17 Feb 1998 22:01:47 -0600 (CST)

walnut is an extremely passionate song, to me.  it's _so_full_ of emotion...
that dog must have meant a _lot_ to moby...  it's possibly my favorite.
someone else mentioned Shining, and i agree... _great_ song...
and of course "when it's cold i'd like to die" can not be forgotten.
stream, my beautiful blue sky, the rain falls...  great stuff...

on another note, i think Shining, Anthem, Hymn and Every One of My Problems
go _very_well_ together.  they all seem to have a similar feel to them.
anyone agree?

as for orbital, in sides is incredible...  it's my only album besides
snivilisation (which most agree isn't very good), but all the singles
i've heard on AMP are _terrific_.



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From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Move Me, Orbital
Date: 17 Feb 1998 23:07:06 -0700

[e-mail] wrote:
> walnut is an extremely passionate song, to me.  it's _so_full_ of emotion...
> that dog must have meant a _lot_ to moby...  it's possibly my favorite.

Agreed!  "Walnut" and "The Blue Terror of Lawns" are great tracks from
Little Idiot.  So he had a dog named Walnut?

I really like Moby's Instinct-era techno generally more than his
also-good-but-different newer stuff.  "Next Is The E" I Feel It
and Victory mixes were among the first tracks to introduce me to
the awesome musical world of Moby.  One might say I was 'moved'
when I heard them.

"Move (You Make Me Feel So Good)" is IMHO one of the best Moby songs
ever.  I'm talking about the full 12" mix, not the slaughtered radio
edit that they included on the CDs.  Other remixes of "Move" are also
quite good, most notably the Sub Version and the Electro Mix.

"All That I Need Is To Be Loved (MV)" is possibly my all-time favorite
Moby track.  It is very powerful, emotional, technological, and
beautiful -- the peak of Moby's techno.  There are two rare hardtrance
remixes of it (one of which is on the EIW remix double CD) that are
also awesome.  The House of Suffering Mix, which was included on EIW,
is very different and doesn't do anything for me.

Also, I like the "Hymn" remixes very much.  They usually don't 'move'
me as much as the aforementioned songs, but I think they're wonderful
and I spent a lot of time and money collecting them all.  It was
worth it.

Actually, I see that I could go on listing other great Moby tracks,
such as the "Into The Blue" remixes, Voodoo Child material, and
superb remixes of other artists including Eskimos & Egypt, Pet Shop
Boys, Brian Eno, Erasure, etc. but then I might end up including a
a large percentage of his prolific works in my tip-top-best-of-Moby
list, which seems to be too long already... so I'll shut up now. ;)

> as for orbital, in sides is incredible...  it's my only album besides
> snivilisation (which most agree isn't very good), but all the singles
> i've heard on AMP are _terrific_.

I actually like Snivilisation.  I got the impression from people on
the Orbital mailing list that it's a really bad album, but when I
just had to get my Orbital fix and there was nowhere else to go, I
bought it.  I'm glad to be among the small fraction of Orbital fans
that really likes it.

Dan



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) DANG!
Date: 18 Feb 1998 01:19:52 EST

whoah!
I just plowed through the Mobility mail from January that I have been saving
up. After ten cups of coffee and five trips to the bathroom....I am at last up
to February 1st....my eyes are buggin out. Gotta love those one liners.

This is what I have to say....I have about 25 Moby Cd's and about three pieces
of Vinyl....vinyl rules!

Also to those who find Aphex Twin too "wierd". You really must go to one of
his live shows! A Wall of sound that will knock you off you feet....he is
cool.

Not much more to say...but to those I am sapposed to send pictures to, don't
worry...I have them ready, it's just a question of me getting off my butt and
actually mailing them....

-Eekmaus



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From: Dan Legare <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Moving me
Date: 17 Feb 1998 22:52:28 -0700


in no order of course:

living
when it's cold i'd like to die
voodoo child's end of everything
into the blue
hymn.alt.quiet.version

these are the songs that make the whole world cry

Dan Legare
Nettwerk Mail Order Department
[e-mail]
Nettwerk Productions-Box 330 1755 Robson St. Vancouver, BC V6G 2B5
PH-604.654.2929  FX-604.654.1993 [e-mail]
http://www.nettwerk.com








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From: "Ben Chim" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Move me
Date: 18 Feb 1998 06:56:05 +0000

  Hmm...its good to see us talkin' about Moby's music, cause
honestly, I haven't thought about it too much in a while...maybe its
time for me to get back all those moby CD's I lent out!  Anyways..I
just wanted to get in my 2 cents worth of moby's songs that make me
feel all wierd(in a good way) inside...usually those songs are ones
that remind of a certain time or place or person that made me so
happy, yet so nostalgic, that no words, only music, can describe.  I
think that's what I love best about Moby's music - that he does make
songs that bring about feelings that are so strong that attempting to
put them into words would only dimish their magnitude.
   I find _All that I need is to be love(melodic mix)_, the one near
the end of EIW remixed, to be one of the most gut wrenching songs
ever.  The haunting vocals and melodic instrumentals that moby uses
are just incedible.
   Another song that really does it for me is _Into the
Blue(Beatmasters mix)_.  The lone decending piano blends beautifully
with the chord progression...just lovely.  Can't describe, can only
cry.

Ben





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From: but not _the_ frankz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) why frankz joined the List + favorites
Date: 18 Feb 1998 14:39:18 +0100

All I need is to be Loved,
was actually the very first thing I heard from Moby,
a friend of mine who makes 'electronic' (what a term) music himself, said
that he thought it might be interesting, but said he, 'don't buy his new CD
Animal Rights, cause it's all punk and too LOUD... well, i replied, what's
wrong about that?
So, at the end of 96 he gave me a short demo tape, with All I need is to
be... and then Easy body on the Rocks.... Circuital Digit!!!
(I love that song....! ) Everything is wrong today.... 'Touch me"   (again
'NEED' some more, not want more, no NEED MORE!)
Followed by Into the Blue,
then i was sold... ofcourse i know there are 22 different versions of Into
the Blue, and I have only 4,
but send them in, i want to have them ALL....that song digs deep into me....
very deep.... I like all versions so far...

well a few months later i went to the store to listen to A.R. anyway,
I shouted already the first time i heard it, whole personel got upset.... I
asked if they could turn it up louder, but they couldnt...
whole headphones burnt down.... Come On Baby!
The fact that i had fallen in love just before i boutght AR has anything to
do with it, or the other way around? I fell in love because AR gave the
feeling I was ALIVE again! And Music had a FUTURE! And Moby showed that so
clear!
4 songs from AR are my all time fav's
Come on Baby
My Love will Never Die
Say it's all Mine
& Face it

So, the police called, and they made a proposition: NO MORE Animal Rights,
or we take the speakers away!
Then I shouted at them: "ALL rights are Animal Rights, p*gs!" Then they went
away...
Djeeee....did I play that loud!

Again a few months later i joined the List, and someone send me Daemons....!!!
I think Daemons is really a MASTERPiece - it's different from AR ofcourse,
but it is SO GOOD! I can play that every day!

I still don't have so much...
I still NEED to have MORE!

Move is also very favorite of mine...
(it makes me feel SO good!)

now i'm going to apply for a job, wish me luck, 8-)

frankz,
but not _the_


----------------------
Logic: the one thing that counts


http://home.wxs.nl/~til00003/




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From: Mark Reed <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: Sampling (Utah Saints)
Date: 18 Feb 1998 01:00:57 +0000

In message <[e-mail]>, "Jose M. Cordoba"
<[e-mail]> writes
>UTAH SAINTS!! My other favorite group!  Here's what I know:

according to a net source the Utah Saints have completed a new album
called "Wired World" that will be released in the next few months. They
also played a set in bristol in April 95 consisting of all-new material.
--
Mark Reed



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From: Keith Forsythe <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Orbital sniv
Date: 18 Feb 1998 09:07:19 -0600

I love sniv.
I think it is one of the coolest and most creative electronic record ever
produced.  I have listened to that album many a nights on trips to home
from college and have really come to appreciate it subtle genius.  Their
first album is definitely worth getting since the classic track satan is on
there along with a remix from moby called speed freak.  In sides is great
too.  The box, what a cool song.  I recommend getting the satan single with
satan live.  It has an insides track on it that rocks live.  By the way, go
see them live.  They don't move much, but the way they performed made me
feel like i was tripping.

At 11:07 PM 2/17/98 -0700, you wrote:
>[e-mail] wrote:
>> walnut is an extremely passionate song, to me.  it's _so_full_ of
emotion...
>> that dog must have meant a _lot_ to moby...  it's possibly my favorite.
>
>Agreed!  "Walnut" and "The Blue Terror of Lawns" are great tracks from
>Little Idiot.  So he had a dog named Walnut?
>
>I really like Moby's Instinct-era techno generally more than his
>also-good-but-different newer stuff.  "Next Is The E" I Feel It
>and Victory mixes were among the first tracks to introduce me to
>the awesome musical world of Moby.  One might say I was 'moved'
>when I heard them.
>
>"Move (You Make Me Feel So Good)" is IMHO one of the best Moby songs
>ever.  I'm talking about the full 12" mix, not the slaughtered radio
>edit that they included on the CDs.  Other remixes of "Move" are also
>quite good, most notably the Sub Version and the Electro Mix.
>
>"All That I Need Is To Be Loved (MV)" is possibly my all-time favorite
>Moby track.  It is very powerful, emotional, technological, and
>beautiful -- the peak of Moby's techno.  There are two rare hardtrance
>remixes of it (one of which is on the EIW remix double CD) that are
>also awesome.  The House of Suffering Mix, which was included on EIW,
>is very different and doesn't do anything for me.
>
>Also, I like the "Hymn" remixes very much.  They usually don't 'move'
>me as much as the aforementioned songs, but I think they're wonderful
>and I spent a lot of time and money collecting them all.  It was
>worth it.
>
>Actually, I see that I could go on listing other great Moby tracks,
>such as the "Into The Blue" remixes, Voodoo Child material, and
>superb remixes of other artists including Eskimos & Egypt, Pet Shop
>Boys, Brian Eno, Erasure, etc. but then I might end up including a
>a large percentage of his prolific works in my tip-top-best-of-Moby
>list, which seems to be too long already... so I'll shut up now. ;)
>
>> as for orbital, in sides is incredible...  it's my only album besides
>> snivilisation (which most agree isn't very good), but all the singles
>> i've heard on AMP are _terrific_.
>
>I actually like Snivilisation.  I got the impression from people on
>the Orbital mailing list that it's a really bad album, but when I
>just had to get my Orbital fix and there was nowhere else to go, I
>bought it.  I'm glad to be among the small fraction of Orbital fans
>that really likes it.
>
>Dan
>
>
>
Keith Forsythe
[e-mail]
[e-mail]



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From: Keith Forsythe <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) voodoo child
Date: 18 Feb 1998 09:19:59 -0600

So would I, but end of everything sure is great to study to.
At 06:35 PM 2/16/98 EST, you wrote:
>I'm wondering why Moby put out such a mellow album as V.C.? all the other
V.C.
>stuff is sooo hard! Its like the old school part of him. I really would love
>to hear more harder techno from Moby soon. By the way, the song in the
credits
>of Double Tap is very very similar to Dark.
>
>dj tripp
>
>
>
Keith Forsythe
[e-mail]
[e-mail]



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From: Keith Forsythe <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) stuff i like
Date: 18 Feb 1998 09:35:50 -0600

Westbam remix of FSR - My introduction to Moby came from hearing this song
at a bar/club here at school.  What caught my attention was interlude with
only the strings, well synth strings.

Go subliminal mix - Groovy video.

Hymn This is my dream - I first heard this song on the video for it on the
Moby CD-ROM.  Cool video, cooler song.

Next is the E - My favorite.  The long mix that he plays live, and I
believe track 4 or 5 on the single, is by far the best.

Drug fits the face - I have always wanted to here that live

Party Time - I think thats the name of it.

of course Move

of course every time you touch me there

Revolver remix track 1, I love it.  Excellent build up.

Come on baby, well come on Moby.
Keith Forsythe
[e-mail]
[e-mail]



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From: "John Heininger" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: move me
Date: 18 Feb 1998 11:08:26 -0600

ok he"ll say something.

angry johnny was immensely moved by the following songs...

feeling so real (westbam mix).  johnny had just started listening to moby
when he was sitting in the back seat of this car driving around aimlessly
in this hell hole known as st. paul.  well like this kid was playing a mix
tape by polter (jungle vibe collective baby!) when the song started to be
mixed in, well johnny had never heard such a power song like that and for
those few minutes no else exsisted.

when its cold id like to die.  duh.  angry johnny almost was almost no
longer because this song made him so sad. angry johnny sat in a bathtub
holding a hair dryer ready to turn it on and drop it in the water.  well 2
hours went by and he started to feel kinda stupid

hymn(alt.queit) and the 20 min song at the end of the little idiot cd.  on
a hot night he sits by como lake with these songs playin on his hedfones
watchin the pretty boys and grrrls walk by.  angry johnny gets pissed so he
lites up a doobie

angry johnny done





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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Move-ing
Date: 18 Feb 1998 15:20:26 EST

Moby stuff that moves me:

Everytime You Touch Me (Pure Joy Mix):
 This song is so happy and it sounds great in "Mixed & Remixed" with Feeling
So Real (Westbam Mix). I know loads of people hate that sort of repetitive
vocals in songs but I think Moby does it so well.

Come On Baby / Come On Baby (Eskimos & Egypt 7" Mix)
 Really angry and emotional I love it. I saw Moby do this on TOTP on TV when
he had "Porn Star" or soething like that on his chest and I thought it was
cool. Brilliant song.

Anthem
 The best track from Everything Is Wrong, I like all his techno stuff.

Unloved Sympathy
 Scary

Anyway that's what I like-

KeithC.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Move-ing
Date: 18 Feb 1998 15:58:37 EST

do you think you could send me a wav file on that angry and emotinal song to
me
thanks
-domanation-



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From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) songs that move me, my tape, remixes, other random stuff
Date: 18 Feb 1998 14:39:02 -0800 (PST)



Hey Moby Monks (or monkeys...)

Personally, every Moby song moves me. Moby is one of the few artists
I've heard where every one of his songs  has the power to move you.
All of his music will soothe the savage beast. God moving... Is
definitely moving. I also like Next Is the E (even though I've only
heard 2 mixes of it, any mix of that song would be good), Mobility
(Aqua mix on rare), all the classical/ambient songs I've heard, pretty
much anything by him can move me. Even the Schoolhouse Rock song can
move me to an extent. Some other artists that really move me like him
are Orbital, Goldie (the song Letter of Fate on his new cd
particularly, I've heard it once, but it's awesome, and its
autobiographical, he really means it), and Aphex's "I Care Because You
DO" (I don't have any of his early stuff.)

I just finished recording my first tape yesterday. I think I'm going
to use the name "DJ Shapeshifter". I'm not sure what to call it
though. It's a pretty nice mix of techno songs, ambient songs, noise
songs, sound collages (hilarious sound collages I might add), songs I
recorded with my kid siblings, stuff like that. It sounds pretty good
for a tape recorded on a Casio, with a boombox or a $40 Sony tape
recorder my mom bought me for Hannukah recently. Some of the songs on
that tape really move me (particularly "Die or Jump Off", "Poetry" and
"Hold".
I just don't know what to call it. I was thinking about something like
"Front 242 VS. Pizzicato 5" (hmmm... that equals Weird Jumbled Mess Of
Music 247...Just like my favorite radio station, WPKN!!!
<http://www.wpkn.org/wpkn/> )
I have a whole word bank of titles on my other computer, but none of
'em ever seem to fit the songs I make...well, please e-mail me
off-list if you have a title for my tape, or if you want to know more
about it, or if you want a copy...I really want other people to hear
my music, just to hear what they think about it...doesn't everyone?

One last thing...yesterday I was listening to a tape of stuff I taped
off the radio (including live Chem.Bros., live Orbital (no Halcyon,
though, but a killer version of Satan...), and That's When I Reach...
by you-know-who)...I pressed play the second it turned 8:15 pm, and
the second it clicked at the end of the tape, it was
9:02...weird...what's weirder is that clock (a digital alarm clock) is
always 5 minutes behind every other clock in the house, even when I
add 10 minutes... weird..

I just thought of something...instead of a compilation (or maybe boxed
set)of Moby's remixes, maybe all the bands he remixed should remix a
song of his...of course that would be hard, they'd have to get Michael
Jackson to do a remix...

okay, I've been chewing too much fat, and I'm on a diet :-)

hey all you philosophers, listen to this!!!
"HAKUNA MATATA, WHAT A WONDERFUL PHRASE!!!
...IT'S OUR PROBLEM FREE PHILOSOPHY!!! (the lion king, duh)


==
Adios Amigos,
      ~~PAUL~~


_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) DANG!
Date: 18 Feb 1998 17:56:50 EST

hi,

I just wanted to let you know that I am away at school now, and my home
address will be changed, so if u send the pics to the adress I gave you I
won't get them.  So here is my school address:
University of Iowa
100 Currier Hall  # E 320
Iowa City, Iowa 52242

Thanks a lot, I can't wait to see them

Kim



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From: "G. Walker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Every one of my problems
Date: 18 Feb 1998 18:11:01 +0500

I want to comment on Every One of My Problems, from the Revolver re-mix
cd...well, I think it's great and deserves more attention.  Right up
there (well, not quite as high up) as Feeling so Real...it's a classic!
I love it.
Another thing that's great...the whole first cd of EiW Mixed &
Re-mixed...incredible, esp Feeling so Real by Westbam--but since a bunch
of ppl on this list have already mentioned that, I don't have to go into
details...that cd is one of my fave Moby cds, tho.  For a few weeks
there I listened to it everyday, exclusively....well, that's also the
same thing that I did when I first bougth Animal Rights, and couldn't
stop listening to it...which brings me to another point...I think it's
hard to choose favorites for AR.  A lot of the songs are very similar
and bleed together.  Now, I love that cd (it was my first intro to
Moby's stuff) but I see it all as one part.  All the songs have the same
sort of atmosphere and really work together. ("Please listen to Animal
Rights at least once in it's entirety")  where as EiW is really a big
musical grab bag.  In this respect I think that AR is more, shall we
say, a finished album? than EiW.  And since the only vocal on AR is Moby
himself, it strikes me as being more personal then EiW.
Well, those are my thoughts for tonite, bye.
~ginger~




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From: "Rekkit" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Schoolhouse Rocks!
Date: 18 Feb 1998 18:15:30 -0800

>much anything by him can move me. Even the Schoolhouse Rock song can
>move me to an extent. Some other artists that really move me like him


Funny that you should mention that disc today; I've had it for almost a year
now but I listened to most of the tracks for the first time last night.  I
couldn't believe how good that Chavez song was!  It was the last style of
music I expected to find on that cd.




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) New to the List!READ THIS!
Date: 18 Feb 1998 21:04:52 EST

My name is Ivy, but everyone calls me Moby.  As you can see, I'm pretty
obsessed with Moby, and the thrill of my life is when I met Moby!  Yeah, baby.
Anywayz--->

My Moby collection(this is gonna take awhile):
I like to Score
Moby(EP)
Ambient
Rare Collected B-sides
Feeling So Real
Animal Rights
Drop a Beat
Every Time You Touch Me
Everything is Wrong:Mixed and Remixed
Early Underground
Voodoo Child
Moby
Everything is Wrong

My favorite disc:
I Like to Score  Why?  Because it's just a good mix of a lot of his different
songs.
My favorite song:
New Dawn Fades
Other good bands:
Cornershop,Tool,KMFDM,Prodigy,Radiohead,London Suede,Black Grape,Chemical
Brothers,Tricky,Pulp,Filter,Hum, and the list goes on...
ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA KNOW?
~~Moby



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) New to the List!READ THIS!
Date: 18 Feb 1998 21:04:52 EST

My name is Ivy, but everyone calls me Moby.  As you can see, I'm pretty
obsessed with Moby, and the thrill of my life is when I met Moby!  Yeah, baby.
Anywayz--->

My Moby collection(this is gonna take awhile):
I like to Score
Moby(EP)
Ambient
Rare Collected B-sides
Feeling So Real
Animal Rights
Drop a Beat
Every Time You Touch Me
Everything is Wrong:Mixed and Remixed
Early Underground
Voodoo Child
Moby
Everything is Wrong

My favorite disc:
I Like to Score  Why?  Because it's just a good mix of a lot of his different
songs.
My favorite song:
New Dawn Fades
Other good bands:
Cornershop,Tool,KMFDM,Prodigy,Radiohead,London Suede,Black Grape,Chemical
Brothers,Tricky,Pulp,Filter,Hum, and the list goes on...
ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA KNOW?
~~Moby



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From: "Brad Caviness" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) I Must Be Dreaming
Date: 18 Feb 1998 21:43:17 -0600

I'm enjoying all this discussion about what Moby songs move you the most.
But I can't believe no one has mentioned "Hymn (This is My Dream)." I think
it's a beautiful track that combines all the best of his elememts and makes
me paint pictures in my mind every time I hear it.

Brad S. Caviness, Ricochet Bigwig
Ricochet Internet Music Magazine (http://www.ricochetmusic.com)
[e-mail]
"I am a cipher wrapped in an enigma smothered in a secret sauce."
 -- Jimmy James, "News Radio"
"The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming."
 -- Moby, musician.





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From: "Rekkit" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) I Must Be Dreaming
Date: 19 Feb 1998 00:11:39 -0800

>I'm enjoying all this discussion about what Moby songs move you the most.
>But I can't believe no one has mentioned "Hymn (This is My Dream)." I think
>it's a beautiful track that combines all the best of his elememts and makes
>me paint pictures in my mind every time I hear it.


I think Keith Forsythe mentioned it actually-it's a fantastic track.
Does anybody know the availability of the other Hymn singles ? (not H.A.Q.V
or the 4 track This is my dream one)....

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From: Tommi Saarela <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Move me
Date: 18 Feb 1998 22:33:44 +0200

At 10:40 17.2.1998 -0800, someone wrote:
>Does anybody else have specific Moby tracks that move them?  I mean *really*
>move you, like virtually to tears.  I know personally I can't listen to When

Say It's All Mine, New Dawn Fades and Into The Blue make me feel quite
strange
if I listen to them when I'm alone and sad...

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From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) I Must Be Dreaming
Date: 19 Feb 1998 07:30:13 -0700

Rekkit wrote:
> Does anybody know the availability of the other Hymn singles ? (not H.A.Q.V
> or the 4 track This is my dream one)....

availability = long out of print

So if you want the German singles, you better start searching hard.
I got mine from CD Europe and German Music Express, but I don't
think they carry them anymore.  You may want to start out by seeing
if any of the stores linked at http://www.moby.org/merc.html have
them, then check search engines and Yahoo for online German music
stores or other importers, and if you still can't find it, look
for music stores anywhere in Europe.  Failing that, you could post
a "WTB: Moby Hymn singles" message in rec.music.marketplace.cd.
Good luck!

Daniel Cerman
http://www.moby.org/



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From: Jonathan Ruano <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Move me
Date: 19 Feb 1998 13:37:37 +0100

On Wed, Feb 18, 1998 at 10:33:44PM +0200, Tommi Saarela wrote:

> At 10:40 17.2.1998 -0800, someone wrote:
> >Does anybody else have specific Moby tracks that move them?  I mean *really*
> >move you, like virtually to tears.  I know personally I can't listen to When
>
> Say It's All Mine, New Dawn Fades and Into The Blue make me feel quite
> strange if I listen to them when I'm alone and sad...
Well, I would like to "feel moved" listening to some songs, but as a non-
native english speaker, I should know the lyrics very well, so I can know
what's been singing. When I listen to english songs, I just dont pay
attention to the lyrics easier than with spanish songs.

But I remember to feel move with Jon Secada's "Angel", Madonna's
"I want you" and Maria Carey's "Hero". I have the lyrics, and they're
perfectly inteligible (well, Jon Secada has a version in spanish ;)

I personally feel refilled with energy when listening to some AR
songs (the punkish ones), EIW happy songs, and "Oil 1", for example,
and relaxed with ambient themes, but I guess this is not uncommon.

I wonder how will it be making love while listening to slow Moby
themes ? |-?

Jonathan.

--
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      Key fingerprint = 7A 87 8E 82 50 82 1D 19  CD BE 3E 20 FA 80 6F 8F
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From: [e-mail] (Ryan Taylor)
Subject: (mobility) Consolidated Tour(No Moby)
Date: 19 Feb 1998 08:44:50 -0500

For those of you who want political lyrics in your music..But don't want to
wait for Moby to put politics into his music..Check out Consolidated..Songs
about animal rights...women's rights..gay rights..the environment..or..the
liner notes to EIW put to music :)  Just a warning though..this is a "rock"
show..Those of you who might know(and even listen to) Consolidated..The song
are mostly from the new album "Dropped"..Adam did play Cutting and No Answer
For A Dancer(and a rock version of Tool And Die)..But don't expect that
industrial/techno/hiphop sound of yesteryear.  PLEASE go if you can
though..it's cheep($5 for me)..and Adam donates ticket sales to local
groups..So everyone wins in the end.  Thanks for listening :)

Ryan

>From: [e-mail]
>Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 09:24:03 EST
>Subject: Consolidated Tour
>X-UIDL: 146192f58aa7708ab6a7cc587b60e799
>
>Friday        March 13    7th Street Entry                  Minneapolis, MN
>Saturday                       March 14    Warehouse                  La Crosse, WI
>Sunday        March 15    The Rave                      Milwaukee, WI
>Monday                       March 16    Cicero's                      St. Louis, MO
>Tuesday                       March 17    The Metro                      Chicago, IL
>Wednesday    March 18    The Intersection                  Grand Rapids, MI
>Thursday    March 19    Shelter/St. Andrews Hall              Detroit,  MI
>Friday        March 20    Call the Office                  London, ONT
>Saturday                       March 21    Lee's Palace                  Toronto, ONT
>Sunday        March 22    Les Foufounes Electriques                 Montreal, QUE
>Monday                       March 23    Wetlands Preserve                   New York, NY

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From: "Michael Lawyer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: Welcome to mobility
Date: 19 Feb 1998 10:33:25 CST6CDT

My name is Michael Cyrus Lawyer, I'm 16 years old (but age is based on experiences and accomplishments, right?)

    I currently possess these Moby albums:
                  (all CDs)

Everything is Wrong USA
Animal Rights USA
Into the Blue
Into the Blue remixed
Everytime you touch me USA
Feeling so real UK
Come on Baby UK
Thats when I reach for my revolver UK
Feeling so real USA
Move
Next is the E UK
The end of everything
I like to score USA
James Bond Theme USA
Moby
Ambient
Early Underground
Rare: The collected B-sides
(Go: The collected mixes)
Bring back my Happiness
Everything is wrong: nonstop evil ninja Moby mix
Moby: Disk

I am always searching for more various Moby CDs.

     Moby Paraphernalia:

2   Moby shirts
1   Circular Moby sticker, affixed to the center of my favorite Woofer
1/6 of a shirt soaked with the sweat of Moby
1   Waterbottle touched by the lips of Moby.

I first heard of Moby when I was 12, A friend of mine in St. Louis lent me her copy of Everything is Wrong and I fell in love that night. Recently I have extended my collection of Moby as I gained access to the internet and was no longer limited to perusing such stores as Best Buy's small selection. I have also begun mixing his music on my computer using SoundEdit 16, a relatively obselete program. Most recently I have had the opportunity to attend one of his concerts. I was, of course, blown away and enve
loped by Moby's awesome live ambience. (I also broke my nose in the mosh pit)

     Moby is by far the most enjoyable music to listen to, he is, simply put, the "best" musical artist. I don't consider myself "obsessed", I consider myself "appreciative".

     Thanks to Christ.




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From: "Michael Lawyer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby's Musical Direction
Date: 19 Feb 1998 10:58:39 CST6CDT

Let me be straightforward.

I love Moby.

How can I go about obtaining semi-rare/rare Moby CDs?

I am new to the list and thought I could appeal to all your munificent wisdom for assistence in my quest for ambience. I have read all those discographies, but they don't help me obtain such music. Where can I turn? Maybe Milwaukee isn't exactly the place to be for someone who loves Moby so much. I thought 20 Cds would be a dream, now I hear of some guys
"glancing over at my Moby c.d. collection that consists of 32 discs." RT ([e-mail])
I have mixed feelings of envy and admiration (tinged with greed?).

                         -Cye




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Madonna
Date: 19 Feb 1998 15:32:26 EST

to tell you the truth....i thought moby produced that track for her cos it
just sounds so damm good and there is so much love in that song....love..elie



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From: Laurie Bland <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby has left the list -- Reply part one
Date: 19 Feb 1998 16:16:44 -0500

Ryu, I agree with you...Though I just joined the list.  You'd think a
mailing list for moby would discuss his philosophies.  All I'm reading
is a bunch of boring crap about release dates and such.
    Anywayz...I'd be happy to give you an orgasm by replying to you
Q...Yes, there is room for everyone to set their priorities; that is, if
they could do it and mind their own business at the same time.  That's a
hard thing for most christians to do...I only know of a few cool
christians, Moby being one of them.  As for Moby violating his beliefs
by singing only about relationships when he cares so much for the
environment...That's not violating his beliefs, i'm just guessing he
feels more musically inspired by love than political issues.
    Well...I'm hoping people will follow your example, and bring up some
interesting topics...I'll see yall later.
Love,
vampris



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) This is my Dream
Date: 19 Feb 1998 16:25:26 EST

Something about this is my dream doesn't get me. it's not very moving to me
only for two reasons;

#1; Moby saying "This Is My Dream"
#2; The Screaching Vocal that is so loud it hurts,

 maybe with a less beautiful soundscape behind it i could look past those two
things, but for me i need the whole of it to be perfect...btw i need to also
find the german import of hymn, if anyone on the list finds an online store
that carries it, please let me know.

dj tripp



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) making love
Date: 19 Feb 1998 16:28:35 EST

In a message dated 98-02-19 10:24:49 EST, you write:

<< I wonder how will it be making love while listening to slow Moby
 themes ? |- >>

it is wonderful.
moby has a way of making great lovemaking songs.

dj tripp
(not that i would know  (: )



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From: Daniel Lee <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) "Thanks" Compilation
Date: 19 Feb 1998 15:27:31 -0800

Well, I just got my "Thnaks" compilation CD today!

And I must say, Andrew, you have put together an AWESOME comp CD!!!

Not only are the remixes by mailing list members terrific, but the
production quality of the entire project is downright slick.

The facts that it's on a recordable CD and the liner notes are glued
together is pretty ghetto, but that seriously makes me like it even
more.

My favorite tracks are your mix of "Everytime You Touch Me" (f---ing
BRILLIANT, man!), the cover of "GMOTFOTW", and "Hymn not.quiet.version).
What a TERRIFIC CD!!!

    Reading the messages you all wrote in the booklet was really neat,
too, because I feel like I know you all personally.

A great, GREAT CD, Gingerbread, here's hoping there's a Vol. 2!

Peace,

Dan




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From: Bonnie Williams <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Sampling
Date: 19 Feb 1998 15:38:16 -0800

Stuart Adair wrote:
>
> From: Rekkit <[e-mail]>
> Date: 17 February 1998 15:58
>
> >>         I just got 'In Sides' the other day, and what is the deal with
> Bon
> >>Jovi and Belinda Carlisle?
> >
  you can hear this @ liveconcerts.com...just a thought in case people
don't know what yr talking about-it's really...interesting and more and
more intriguing each time you hear it...sorry for the lack of moby
content...oh wait! i do have a question...i saw a few posts about a
rebroadcasting of a moby concert...is there anyway to find that in an
archive somewhere, cuz i can record stuff from the comp. to a tape and
it would be wonderful to have a moby concert... kc



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From: Laurie Bland <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Why I joined this list...
Date: 19 Feb 1998 21:59:05 -0500

K...Ryu loves a good challenge.  I got a simple Q then, and your
response might lead to a good discussion.  People such as Moby (and you)
seem to be so sure that your religious beliefs are correct.  Tell me,
how is it you are so sure that there is a God, that Jesus was his son,
and that Jesus died for our "sins"?  (That may have sounded a bit smart
assy, but I dont mean it that way.)
Just wondering,
vampris



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From: Rob Skipworth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Moby and Non-Christians
Date: 19 Feb 1998 21:13:06 -0600

She's got an interesting point.  I consider myself an atheist and I still
love Moby.  I think that usually such a christian slant on music turns me
off of it, but with moby I don't really care.  I also am a meat eater and
I'm not that concerned with the ecosystem.  (unlike moby)  Still, though, I
love Moby's music.

Rob S


Laurie Bland wrote:

> K...Ryu loves a good challenge.  I got a simple Q then, and your
> response might lead to a good discussion.  People such as Moby (and you)
> seem to be so sure that your religious beliefs are correct.  Tell me,
> how is it you are so sure that there is a God, that Jesus was his son,
> and that Jesus died for our "sins"?  (That may have sounded a bit smart
> assy, but I dont mean it that way.)
> Just wondering,
> vampris






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From: "Michaela Gerstner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Why I joined this list...
Date: 19 Feb 1998 20:35:20 -0700

the way i see it, there is no wrong religion, nor a right one.  religion
just offers a sense of belonging and faith.  it explains the unknown (i.e.
origin of man) and explains why things are the way they are.  as for Jesus,
i really don't know much about this area.. but i see him as this.  there
was a person named Jesus, who was as significant.  he may not have been
able to walk on water or turn water into wine, but he offered a new
perspective on life... a new systems of beliefs.  he taught ppl to love
instead of hate.  now, it may not have spread that far, and lost its
original meaning, but it did cause a great change in things.  this is how i
see it, then again.. i'm not a reliable source.  religion is personal..
therefore no one can tell u that what u believe in is wrong.. and if they
do, then they are wrong.  because their religion is just as wrong as yours,
and just as right.

as the Buddha himself once said: "work out your own salvation."
Blessed Be,
Plovious
http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Vines/3589/

----------
> From: Laurie Bland <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: (mobility) Why I joined this list...
> Date: Thursday, February 19, 1998 7:59 PM
>
> K...Ryu loves a good challenge.  I got a simple Q then, and your
> response might lead to a good discussion.  People such as Moby (and you)
> seem to be so sure that your religious beliefs are correct.  Tell me,
> how is it you are so sure that there is a God, that Jesus was his son,
> and that Jesus died for our "sins"?  (That may have sounded a bit smart
> assy, but I dont mean it that way.)
> Just wondering,
> vampris



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From: "Ben Chim" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) This is my Dream
Date: 19 Feb 1998 22:45:12 +0000

I don't like Hymn(This is my dream) either. I find the song
irritating.  But Hymn(European Edit) is amazing.  I find its so much
more refined than this is my dream, and it may be my fav. moby track.

Ben



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From: Rob Skipworth <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) This is my Dream
Date: 19 Feb 1998 21:42:23 -0600

Does anyone no where I can get an mp3 of hymn??????   I'm desparate to
hear this song!!!!!
rob s

Ben Chim wrote:

> I don't like Hymn(This is my dream) either. I find the song
> irritating.  But Hymn(European Edit) is amazing.  I find its so much
> more refined than this is my dream, and it may be my fav. moby track.
>
> Ben






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From: Daniel Lee <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) liveconcerts archive
Date: 19 Feb 1998 19:47:50 -0800

Any word on the Moby liveconcerts broadcast being archived?

Any word at all?

Peace,
Dan




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) liveconcerts archive
Date: 20 Feb 1998 03:54:47 GMT

Right now I am listening to the Orbital Concert and I not find a Moby listing
anywhere. They never got back to me about archiving it either. Anyone have some
inside info?
This message sent using the FirstClass SMTP/NNTP Gateway for Mac OS.




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) religious debates...
Date: 19 Feb 1998 23:30:21 -0600 (CST)

>Tell me,
>how is it you are so sure that there is a God, that Jesus was his son,
>and that Jesus died for our "sins"?  (That may have sounded a bit smart
>assy, but I dont mean it that way.)
>Just wondering,
>vampris

please, if you are going to begin a religious debate (which btw has already been
done on mobility) please do so privately.  thanks.

andy



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From: Ryu <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Why I joined this list...
Date: 20 Feb 1998 00:35:54 -0500

At 09:59 PM 2/19/98 -0500, you wrote:
>K...Ryu loves a good challenge.  I got a simple Q then, and your
>response might lead to a good discussion.  People such as Moby (and you)
>seem to be so sure that your religious beliefs are correct.  Tell me,
>how is it you are so sure that there is a God, that Jesus was his son,
>and that Jesus died for our "sins"?  (That may have sounded a bit smart
>assy, but I dont mean it that way.)

nothing at all can be proven true or false.
you can not prove to me that an apple is red.
or that there is gravity.
or that the sky is up.
nothing is correct.
nothing is false.
it's all a matter of relativity, oppinion, and personal comprehension of
universal ideas.

i am not sure that there is a god, or that christ was his son.
there is no way for me to know  for sure.

what allows me to believe what i do is called "faith".
what makes faith as strong as it is, is that it CAN'T be proven.

i am not saying that my religious beliefs are correct.  in fact, i really
don't ever mention my religious beliefs unless someone asks me.
i will dragon punch anyone who says that what they define as real and true
and just is any better than what someone's realities, truths, and justices.
you can say that i am "against" that sort of ideal.

i love god because i see everyday that he loves me.
by breathing his air, by listening to his music, by having his orgasms.
by standing, by typing, by crapping.
that doesn't mean that you have to feel the same.
in fact, it'd upset me if you felt the same.  i don't want everyone to see
things the way i do.  otherwise, what's the point?

sorry, if that was a rant, but
me likes to talk.

love,
ryu

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 My name is Ryu.  I make hard emotional
 electronic music.  To hear some, get cds,
   and see stuff, go to my homepage at:
http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 Ryu  |  [e-mail]  |  814-867-0756
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++




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From: but not _the_ frankz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Why I joined this list...
Date: 20 Feb 1998 02:00:05 -0700

At 12:35 AM 2/20/98 -0500, you wrote:
>
>nothing at all can be proven true or false.
even true or false can be proven if you stick to logic
or: non of the above,  is: not-true not-false (tautologism)
or: both of the above, is: as well true as false

Believes cant be proven, that's why they called 'believe'

>you can not prove to me that an apple is red.
don't need to, 'red' is a convention, and conventions dont need prove

>or that there is gravity.
except when I pull your leg...

>or that the sky is up.
There is a BIG difference between 'going up' and 'going down', everybody can
prove that...!

>nothing is correct.
This is right!

>nothing is false.
This is wrong

>it's all a matter of relativity, oppinion, and personal comprehension of
>universal ideas.

Mmm...
I'm still searching...
Socrates proved to me yesterday that the soul is immortal! At least some
souls....
In one and a half page! Before he started the prove, he said: "You can do
this yourself..."

So now i can prove it to anyone!

Socrates is the GREATEST!



----------------------
Logic: the one thing that counts


http://home.wxs.nl/~til00003/




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Why I joined this list...
Date: 20 Feb 1998 04:03:03 EST

ahh! this is waaay off- topic! i can see this going baaad places! let's just
all think our own little spiritual things in our own little ways okay?

just keeping the peace. . sarah



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From: Dan Legare <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) moby desert island
Date: 20 Feb 1998 06:01:31 -0700

you're on a desert island
you can only have one moby disk
one out of all voodoo child, little idiot, the whole moby posse

which one would it be?


Dan Legare
Nettwerk Mail Order Department
[e-mail]
Nettwerk Productions-Box 330 1755 Robson St. Vancouver, BC V6G 2B5
PH-604.654.2929  FX-604.654.1993 [e-mail]
http://www.nettwerk.com








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From: "Pedersen, Trond Erik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) RE: Moby on a desert island
Date: 20 Feb 1998 15:58:00 +0100

>you're on a desert island
>you can only have one moby disk
>one out of all voodoo child, little idiot, the whole moby posse

>which one would it be?

Would definitely be the Everything Is Wrong : Mixed & Remixed & Remixed
& Mixed.
This is the first album I bought of Moby, and the one that REALLY blew
my mind. After listening to these CDs virtually every day for the last
year and a half I'm still not tired of them (but I guess my CD is quite
tired of them, it sometimes start skipping and "autoreversing" like a
madman). EIW:MRRM was also the CDs that reintroduced me to Moby as I
like to know him. After my first meeting with Moby throug Go, Move, Next
is the E, Feeling so real and Hymn I unfortunately encountered some of
his, IMHO less successful, punk-inspired works which made me forget
about Moby for a while.I think EIW:MRRM pretty well sums up the real
genius of electronica-Moby (er..hrrm..pardon the expression).

But wait ..... Eh.. a desert island??? Where would I get the
CD-player/turntable??? And where would the electricity come from???? I
guess Moby could accompany me to this island and ride an ergometer bike
with a _powerful_ dynamo to power my 3,5 KW
Yamaha/Energy/Electocompagniet Stereo so that I could listen to the
tunes of the Evil Ninja.

BTW that would be a totally environment-friendly way of making
electricity, too, in good Moby spirit.

 -Just had to   (c8

Trond.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby desert island
Date: 20 Feb 1998 10:30:53 EST

I would have to say the Move EP without a doubt.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby's jungle
Date: 20 Feb 1998 10:38:52 EST

WHere did you get DArk from?  I have never heard of it

THeo



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From: "Rekkit" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby desert island
Date: 20 Feb 1998 10:49:54 -0800

>which one would it be?


Everything Is Wrong, because you're bound to be in several different moods
while you're on the island....
Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page:
http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm





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From: "Rekkit" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby's jungle
Date: 20 Feb 1998 10:51:20 -0800

>WHere did you get DArk from?  I have never heard of it


Dark is track four on the "That's When I Reach For My Revolver Remix"
single.  It's the orange colored case, not the black one, and not the
cardboard one.....
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http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm





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From: Scott Stegenga <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby desert island
Date: 20 Feb 1998 10:04:12 -0600

>Everything Is Wrong, because you're bound to be in several different moods
>while you're on the island....

Ditto. EIW is his most diverse album, in my opinion, and I still get chills
when I hear the opening keyboards in "Feeling so Real." Chills would be a
good thing on a desert island too, since it would be so hot and all...

But can I take one more CD with as well...non moby? I really would like to
bring London Calling by The Clash. Is that ok? Pretty please?
Scott Steg
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) This is my Dream
Date: 20 Feb 1998 11:13:42 EST

Perhaps you just have to be at the right place at the right time.  For me
Hymn-This is m Dream is a representation of my love for Christ.  I an thrilled
that I was able to study at Paris and read the bible at the same time that I
listened to it.  It is to me a perfect example of how my life became perfect
one day and has been perfect ever since.  I usually keep to myself and am a
quiet person but inside of me there are two suns shining in the sky whenever I
listen to this song

Theo



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From: Ryu <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) whoa...he's outta control.
Date: 20 Feb 1998 12:04:53 -0500

man, i'm frazzled....
hyper.  goin' to kelly's this weekend.
mmmm....i'll reply to all your mails soon.
just using the fact that i'm going there
as an excuse for my cockiness in the last
email!

bye.

love,
ryu
who is listening to king tubby.
are you?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 My name is Ryu.  I make hard emotional
 electronic music.  To hear some, get cds,
   and see stuff, go to my homepage at:
http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 Ryu  |  [e-mail]  |  814-867-0756
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) religious debates...
Date: 20 Feb 1998 12:41:23 -0500 (EST)

i agree with this. i don't think there is much of a point in argueing about
religion, because it's all personal,and if one person believes there is a
god, and a son jesus christ, than there is.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby desert island
Date: 20 Feb 1998 12:44:13 -0500 (EST)

everything is wrong definitely. it is my masturbating tool.
:) cookypuss



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From: "Michael Lawyer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) religious debates...
Date: 20 Feb 1998 13:01:34 CST6CDT

I have to side with the Deists, here. I feel that our ability to have faith in a greater being is proof inherent of itself that such a being exists. That may sound circular, but it satisfies my search for the truth.




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From: "Evil Ninja" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility)
Date: 20 Feb 1998 12:23:45 PST

does anyone know who to talk to to get this cd looks really kick ass


>
>Well, I just got my "Thnaks" compilation CD today!
>
>And I must say, Andrew, you have put together an AWESOME comp CD!!!
>
>Not only are the remixes by mailing list members terrific, but the
>production quality of the entire project is downright slick.
>
>The facts that it's on a recordable CD and the liner notes are glued
>together is pretty ghetto, but that seriously makes me like it even
>more.
>
>My favorite tracks are your mix of "Everytime You Touch Me" (f---ing
>BRILLIANT, man!), the cover of "GMOTFOTW", and "Hymn
not.quiet.version).
>What a TERRIFIC CD!!!
>
>    Reading the messages you all wrote in the booklet was really neat,
>too, because I feel like I know you all personally.
>
>A great, GREAT CD, Gingerbread, here's hoping there's a Vol. 2!
>
>Peace,
>
>Dan
>
>
>



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From: "Evil Ninja" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) thanks compilation
Date: 20 Feb 1998 12:24:57 PST

does anyone know who to talk to to get this cd looks really kick ass


>
>Well, I just got my "Thnaks" compilation CD today!
>
>And I must say, Andrew, you have put together an AWESOME comp CD!!!
>
>Not only are the remixes by mailing list members terrific, but the
>production quality of the entire project is downright slick.
>
>The facts that it's on a recordable CD and the liner notes are glued
>together is pretty ghetto, but that seriously makes me like it even
>more.
>
>My favorite tracks are your mix of "Everytime You Touch Me" (f---ing
>BRILLIANT, man!), the cover of "GMOTFOTW", and "Hymn
not.quiet.version).
>What a TERRIFIC CD!!!
>
>    Reading the messages you all wrote in the booklet was really neat,
>too, because I feel like I know you all personally.
>
>A great, GREAT CD, Gingerbread, here's hoping there's a Vol. 2!
>
>Peace,
>
>Dan
>
>
>



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you don't know just how i feel
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From: "Rekkit" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby desert island
Date: 20 Feb 1998 15:47:40 -0800

>everything is wrong definitely. it is my masturbating tool.


As long as it's strictly an auditory tool, and not a logistical one...
;)
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http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm





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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby's jungle
Date: 20 Feb 1998 15:53:45 EST

its on the revolver cd import single



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From: "Evil Ninja" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby desert island
Date: 20 Feb 1998 13:10:30 PST


>you're on a desert island
>you can only have one moby disk
>one out of all voodoo child, little idiot, the whole moby posse
>
>which one would it be?

well i would most definatley (sP) "everything is wrong"
because that was the album that touched me the most with the songs
everything is wrong,GMOTFOTW,WiCILtD,into the blue, everytime you touch
me,and bring back my happiness.
all his albums kick so much ass
but this one went in my soul and rewrote my beliefs
i used to be full of hate and listen to theings like marilyn manson
all the time but after i heard EiW i stoped list to MM and others
(except nin they're the greatest) all the time but don't get me wrong i
still love to listen to MM just not as much.  You see MM is good when
you are in a hate mood (which i haven't been in alot any more).

thanks for listening/reading to my input
i hope it was helpful

nothing is a sacrifice as long as it helps atleast one person--quote me



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby desert island
Date: 20 Feb 1998 21:54:45 GMT

Ill tell you what. I would strand myself on a desert island if I could find a
copy of Next is the E there. I have been looking for that CD forever, and it is
my favorite song. Plus, I would get so pissed off at listening to those nice
mellow tracks on EIW if I was stuck on an island that I would throw it away.
But what I was really thinking was that I would like to have Rare B sides and
use the front side to reflect light, burn a palm tree and then get rescued.
That way I would not ruin the playable side and get saved.
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Fwd: your satan letter(if possible please foward)
Date: 20 Feb 1998 18:09:10 EST

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      Satan, as you call the supreme power of evil, is no more real than your
heterosexuality.  Satan was created in the imaginations of facsist christians
and other orginized religions to make us fear our actions and gain control
through fear.  There are only two human emotions that god has given us, LOVE
and FEAR.  God is all mighty, right? Right, so why would he be constantly
battling an "evil" spirit.  Satan is non-existent.  Satanism, is a philosophy
that is somewhat close to social darwinism and the teachings of Nietschze.
This belief system promotes the discovery of self and individuality.  There
are, however, (just as in any "religion") empty rituals no different than
excepting the host or bread at a sunday mass.  These rituals and codes of
ethics are what difine religion and make so empty and uninticing.  Religion is
for the sinner and faith is for the believer.  In this i mean that religion is
for a quick easy salvation through fear, not accepting wno you are and
assuming(eventhough god loves us) that god wants to place us in firey
damnation.  This is wrong.  We are all apart of a universe apart of god.  God
is not a being, god is everything that is and everything that isn't..  The
fact is i'm sure god doesn't care how we obtain our salvation just as long as
we obtain it.  There is no hell.  God wants us to realize our magnificence and
"kill ourselves" (not literlaly) and recreate new selves.  We are god, god is
us, we are all the same, everything is relative to everything and nothing
else.  We need to pursue our own paths up the moutain to our enlightenment and
act on love more than fear.  The more we act on fear, the less chance we have
of recreating ourselves.  Once reach our optimum possition of complete bliss
and understanding, we will realize we have farther to go.  We can talk to god
and ourselves not through the fallacy of words, but through the power of
feeling and the power of expericne.  The more we discover as a species, the
less we believe our faith, yet, the more we dicover, it is laid out even
clearer.  We are a stupid people and need to open our eyes to the mystery of
uncondition faith and love, not conditional freindships and fear.  There are
no messiahs, no prophets, no one is better than anyone else.  Jesus, Buddah,
Muhammed, these were all just enlightened people who had questioned
everything, and then found the answer deep within themselves.  They found
eternal bliss and people become jellous.  Jesus was killed through jellousy
because he knew who he was, had no fear, realized his magnificence and acted
upon it.  We all have the power, but are raised through a demeaning torture of
twisted lies and fears.  Bring about your own beginning, bring about your
life, "wash away sin and take off your sin."  You won't find comfort in the
bible or any other "holy books" or "testaments" because these were written by
people no different then you., these books have not been ordained by god, no
where does it say they were. Find what god is to you and what your salvation
is to you.  Remember the bible was written 1000's of years ago for people
1000's of years ago.  Find out what your needs are now.  I urge you to explore
your newself, which is only possible through the loss of the old self.

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From: "john-->" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) thanks compilation
Date: 06 Feb 1998 09:15:57 PST

hey there-
    to answer to your question-the cd was a comp. that the list put together=
 for moby-  the cd has a bunch of covers of moby tracks.  you can get it =
by contacting adam (gingerbread man)-- i think-

                john--:)

----------
>
> does anyone know who to talk to to get this cd looks really kick ass
>
>
> >
> >Well, I just got my "Thnaks" compilation CD today!
> >
> >And I must say, Andrew, you have put together an AWESOME comp CD!!!
> >
> >Not only are the remixes by mailing list members terrific, but the
> >production quality of the entire project is downright slick.
> >
> >The facts that it's on a recordable CD and the liner notes are glued
> >together is pretty ghetto, but that seriously makes me like it even
> >more.
> >
> >My favorite tracks are your mix of "Everytime You Touch Me" (f---ing
> >BRILLIANT, man!), the cover of "GMOTFOTW", and "Hymn
> not.quiet.version).
> >What a TERRIFIC CD!!!
> >
> >    Reading the messages you all wrote in the booklet was really neat,

> >too, because I feel like I know you all personally.
> >
> >A great, GREAT CD, Gingerbread, here's hoping there's a Vol. 2!
> >
> >Peace,
> >
> >Dan
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> **********************************************************************
> Evil Ninja
> [e-mail]
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> i do not want this
> don't you tell me how i feel
> you don't know just how i feel
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> **********************************************************************
>
>
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From: George N Xanthopoulos <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) religious debates...
Date: 20 Feb 1998 19:21:42 -0500 (EST)

ha! that's quite amusing.

circular logic, eh? not only do you submit a bullshit argument as a reason
to maintain faith, but then you point out that you realize it's bullshit,
as well as telling us that you lead your life by this bullshit.

on a more rational note, what is the point in proving our personal
opinions about why we believe in God on a Moby list?

i don't want to start a flame-war, but is it conceivable that the reason
moby doesn't talk about "serious issues" in his music is because he
realizes it's the WRONG forum? hugs and kisses. gx.




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From: "jason(INRI)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) religious debates...
Date: 20 Feb 1998 19:27:59 -0500

although i am an atheist, i feel i should jump in.
religion is not about theology, it's about living your life in a certain
sort of way. christianity is less about worshipping jesus, as it is about
treating your neighbours in a respectful way, and trying to do the right
thing.

one more thing before i leave this list...... i've noticed that there are a
lot of vegheads here. i only have one thing to say to you..... get out of
your fantasy utopian world and join reality. i'm sure everyone would love to
live in a magical world where there is no suffering and everyone loves each
other, but that just isn't going to happen. i'm sure everyone would love to
live in a wonderful happy land where you can maintain proper health through
the eating of plants, but human beings need meat. that's why mother nature
made us this way. if she didn't want us eating meat, then she wouldn't make
us want to, would she? meat is an important part of your diet, and you
people are going to regret not eating it when you're old and gray.

if you want to argue, send it here [e-mail] , inri has left the
house.


;';'l;;','Jk;'g';l;/'/'',;,',''';,---------__---___//\/\/\|\||-\?\';\'\\;|||
Love is suicide,
And if you think that i'm crazy then your goddamn right.





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From: "Evil Ninja" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) thanks compilation
Date: 20 Feb 1998 17:38:16 PST

hey john told me that i could get the "thanks" compilation from adam but
i didn't know how to contack adam personally so posted it to the list

HEY ADAM IF YOU ARE OUT THERE EMAIL ME SOME DETAILS ON THE "THANKS"
COMPILATION AT [e-mail]  thanks alot.
would love to get it

nothing is a sacrifice is someone benefits from it.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  (mobility) moby desert island
Date: 20 Feb 1998 21:59:33 EST


In a message dated 2/20/98 8:00:18 AM, you wrote:

<<you're on a desert island
you can only have one moby disk
one out of all voodoo child, little idiot, the whole moby posse

which one would it be?
>>

Definitely "The End Of Everything".....even Moby said himself that that is his
best album yet.....plus the scenery on the cover fits the question  : )

Fil



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From: Damian <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Fwd: your satan letter(if possible please
Date: 20 Feb 1998 21:07:57 -0700

foward)
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Wellllllllllllll... wasn't that special.  (the church lady)


Just to let everyone know, the person that sent this email has
unsubscribe along w/another nuisance.  Fortunately they both
unsubscribed themselves.  So let's please forget we ever saw those
emails!  However, I will not be lenient when it comes to religion and
philosophy on this list anymore.  If it doesn't relate to Moby you will
find yourself unsubscribed.  Any questions - then write to me before
your post it.  I hate babysitting.

Cheers!

[e-mail]
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From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) compilation cd, tape
Date: 21 Feb 1998 10:21:07 -0800 (PST)



people are getting copies of the cd already? I hope i get mine
soon...i know i sent in the money, i hope no one stole it...$10 is a
lot of money to a 14 year old...

Oh, for the people who wanted a copy of my tape, um, I'm sorry but I
can't make copies and sent them out to you all. You'll have to send me
blank tapes. I'm sort of a cheepskate, but I'm only a kid. . o 0 (Now
nobody is going to want a copy!) Sorry for any inconveniences.

I still have to put a few finishing touches on it. There are some trax
I recorded onto other tapes previously that I speed-dubbed onto this
tape, so they sound like crap now. Damn. I'll have to dub them agin.
And there are other songs that I'm still not sure I want to keep on
it. I probably will though, It's nice to have some goofy songs on it I
guess. My brother wrote a song about cheese and a song about dinosaurs
and we recorded them and they sound kind of silly. But my keyboard
playing saves them from totally sucking, I guess.

Guess i gotta go. bye


==
Adios Amigos,
      ~~PAUL~~


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From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) THANX CD
Date: 21 Feb 1998 10:39:08 -0800 (PST)


Did any1 else get the cd? I hope my $10 didn't get lost in the  mail,
that would suck, and I really want the cd!!! bla...

I would definitely take EIW to a deserted island. It is a perfect
album. I was listening to it last nite (for some reason I'm listening
to every cd/tape in my collection in abc order) and when i heard God
moving... I was thinking of things that make me sad...particularly
when my favorite radio station WYBC went off the air...well not
really, they just eliminated all student programming and are a 24 hour
commercial r&b station now...yukk!!
or like when this kid station Aahs World Radio went off the air...I
mean they played a lot of krap, but it was nice to know there was a
radio station network for kids only...one song that was in heavy
rotation a few months before they shut down was moby's james bond
theme...kool...i hope wnhu and wpkn never go off the air, or wsmu in
north dartmouth massachusetts (saturday nite from 8 to 2 is tha bomb
on that station, they play all techno music...dance/rave in the
beginning, then jungle/trip hop/ambient after midnite, its awesome...i
was listening to "letter of fate" by goldie and i was thinking about
things like that...)
after i listened to EIW i listened to ILTS, the next in my
collection...when GOD moving was on then, i was half-asleep...it
reeally brings you into another world when you're not fully
awake...when first cool hive started i was so jolted out of this other
world that i woke up..but i fell asleep again by the end of the song,
i woke up at midnite today...so i have to listen to ILTS again...
I listened to New Dawn Fades, which i usually skip over because i
think its a boring dirge, but i listened to it and it really moved
me...he packs so much emotion into it...
of course my fave joy division cver is Bush/Tricky's (in a lonely
place" a nice quiet ambient song, enhanced by soft buzzing
synths...good to fall asleep to, after all the other electronic noise
on the Deconstructed disk...I love the goldie mix on that cd too, its
better than the original...

whenever i listen to eiw, i feel like an old dead friend comes to me
and tells me a 45 minute bedtime story...and when  wicil2d comes on,
she's saying goodbye, and floating back up to heaven...i almost cry
listening to it...maybe they shouldve used it in titanic or
something...i've never ssen it though...

oh, if you want a copy of my tape, you'l have to e-mail me for my
address..I'm sorry i can't send you all a copy, you'll have to send me
a blank tape (wait, I said that already..)

bye...

==
Adios Amigos,
      ~~PAUL~~


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From: Laurie Bland <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Reply to Ryu and but not _the_ frankz
Date: 21 Feb 1998 13:50:22 -0500

Well, Ryu...
    That was a good answer.  Problem is, frank definitly has a point when
he says "except when I pull your leg" for that gravity remark.
    I suppose you could still say that there is no proof of gravity...Lets
say the only reason you fall when your leg is pulled is because you
think that you are supposed to fall, not because there is a force that
makes you fall.
    Anywayz, my point is, anything is possible.  I just cant seem to put
ALL my faith in something I have no real proof of...That just seems
dangerous to me. (The problem with my own line of reasoning:  How do I
know that "real proof" is actually proof, or just my own perception?  I
could have solid scientific proof right in front of me, but I might not
percieve it as such.  Of course, that is only questioning the nature of
reality itself, which is rather pointless...Since all we have to go on
is our own powers of observation anyway.)
    I may be rambling here, but I'm only trying to say that faith is
belief, not knowledge...Which Ryu seems to be aware of.  I have my own
faiths too...everyone does...I just cant place ALL my trust in a god I
havent seen.
    Well, sorry for babbling on. I'll check in later.
Love,
vampris



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From: Laurie Bland <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) religious debates...
Date: 21 Feb 1998 14:27:59 -0500

K...I'll try to watch myself...But I really have to wonder, why would a
mailing list on Moby, who's spirituality figures into his music so much,
not include debates on religion?



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) religious debates...
Date: 21 Feb 1998 15:26:50 -0700


Laurie Bland wrote:
>
> K...I'll try to watch myself...But I really have to wonder, why would a
> mailing list on Moby, who's spirituality figures into his music so much,
> not include debates on religion?

I think this is a good and valid question and I appreciate your
tactfulness in asking it.  Here's my logic (and please excuse me because
I am not that great at expressing myself through writing).

Often, I have thought to myself that if Moby were on the list he would
probably bring these things up and encourage talk about religion and
philosophy.  Then I would probably go along with it... but it would be
on the basis that his participation was involved.

Many forums are out there that discuss religion and philosophy whether
it is a mailing list or a newsgroup.  If people want to discuss those
topics, why can't it be done there since the forum was designated for
that exact purpose?  Granted, if you allude to Moby, people won't know
what you are referring to but that is the price (I guess) that must be
paid.  I figure since I created this list SPECIFICALLY for the
discussion of Moby, then that is what it should focus on.

Too often I have seen debates on religion/philosophy turn into endless
rebuttals that go back and forth (not to mention the flame wars and lack
of respect that often goes with it).  Besides, the conversation often
narrows down to two or three people who insist on being right or proving
a point that the other party will never see.  Yet this all happens as
hundreds of people stand by saying "I'm bored with this already and when
can we get back to talking about something... anything... that relates
to Moby."  I don't think the price is worth it and I am not up to the
task of maintaining a list like that because my interest is just not
there.

Simply put - keep it related to Moby and I'm happy.  Even if the thread
goes off track I won't mind too much because I know where it started and
going off course is sometimes easy.  Hopefully, everyone will keep in
mind what this list is about and move the conversation, if needed, to a
personal forum.  I don't think this is much to ask.  Many times it feels
like a balancing act because I don't want to be an "iron hand" and yet I
don't want other lists members to suffer through a slow resolve.

I dearly hope that this makes sense and is understandable to everyone.
To me, there is a definite distinction about what is appropriate when it
comes to these topics.  Not everyone agrees with me but I am trying to
do the best I can.

Sincerely,
Damian

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From: "Tooey" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Todd "the god" Terry (non-moby)
Date: 22 Feb 1998 05:48:50 -0600

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just a note that another DJ made good (like our hero Moby) is coming to =
my club tomorow night (Sunday).
Like Moby, he went from practically INVENTING a music genre, house, and =
went into making his own records, then moved on to producing and =
remixing and so on and so on.

So as to keep the list clear of non moby-ish material, private e-mail me =
at [e-mail] and I'll tell how the show went.

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From: anthony alznauer <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) desert island
Date: 22 Feb 1998 09:35:14 -0800 (PST)


desert island?

the end of everything and i'd never turn it off.i
listen to that for days nonstop by choice anyway.

just a funny note. someone quoted buhdda "work out
your own salvation". i think paul said that in the
bible as well...

moby has an incredibly open minded christianity. the
question is not is that wrong or right christianity
but is it christianity? i dont question moby, that's
his job. moby makes me question myself.




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Moby, WHATS UP?!?!?!
Date: 22 Feb 1998 16:12:00 EST

Where is the new Trophy stuff?Huh? I need more....hard techno hard techno hard
techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno
hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard
techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno
hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard
techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno
hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard
techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno
...
oops...got carried away, it seems all the stuff that commin out these days is
jungle or trance, i want techno!

dj tripp



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From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) moby
Date: 22 Feb 1998 16:52:00 -0800 (PST)



i just listened to a clip of "unloved Symphony" among others on my
BRAND SPANKIN NEW REAL AUDIO PLAYER!!! (well, I've only been online
for a few months...) god that song is amazing!!! can't wait to hear
the whole thing. Ranks up there with every goldie song i ever heard
and "This Is Los Angeles" by Lemon d. and the d'n'b remix of "Cover
Me" by Bjork. I should start listening to more jungle music, dat
shit's awesome.

I know this is offtopic, but does anyone know where i can hear
realaudio clips of Aphex's S.A.W. 85-92 vol. 1? I found clips from
vol. 2, and theyre nice ambient tunes, but i think i heard a clip or 2
from vol. 1 on my local noncommercial radio station WPKN, and it's
awesome. I know where to find the album cheap (well, $22), but I just
want to hear more. Also, does anyone know where to find the cd for
less than $22? I guess you could find it cheaper in Europe,
but...whatever...e-mail me offlist.

I also listened to clips from End of Everything. It's nice, kind of
sounds like Aphex Twin. Definitely a lot more interesting than the
clips from S.A.W. 2 i heard.

Andy, did you get my $$$ for the comp yet? I KNOW I sent it in...I
always get pissed when I lose money...

Hmmmmm...anything else to say? Guess i Don't have anything else to
say...well, if u want a copy of my tape, send me a blank tape. It's 60
min. long. my adress is (email me for snailmail address...
<[e-mail]> )

"Some folk'll never lose a toe and some folk'll
Like Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel!!!"

(Moby's favorite cartoon. He said so. watch the simpsons tonite, it's
on in 10 min. Bye.)

==
Adios Amigos,
      ~~PAUL~~


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) you move me
Date: 23 Feb 1998 00:06:23 EST

Finally I got through February up to the 22nd.

I don't get cable TV so I can't watch Mtv...I am not cool like that. I've
never heard anything by this Daddy person or most of the other artist we have
been arguing about. Plus I hate to listen to the radio. I am out of the loop
as far as mainstream stuff is concerned. Some one make me a tape of all these
people we hate to talk about and listen to and I will let you know what I
think ok?

My first question is "hey Scott, why do you love carrots?" Am I the only one
who has wondered about this?

also to Quote Scott "I had an interview with Moby way back in 1993 in Grand
Rapids, MI (where Iwent to college...Calvin)" .....Wow that is so cool! What
was he doing in Grand Rapids anyway? Speaking of that fine city...is there
anyone on this list from Grand Rapids? Or Michigan for that matter? I joined
this list because no one I knew had even heard of or liked Moby, so I was
searching for some people who liked his music as much as I did. It's nice to
know you are all out there! HI.

I too would like to hear Moby do a re-mix of Inspector Gadget.

Also....I have been going through this 80's phase as far as music goes....I
used to LOVE OMD (not OMC ack!), actually I've got The Pixies in the tape
player of my car right now. I would like to hear Moby remix OMD or the Pixies!
What do you think?

-Eekmaus (hear me roar!)

PS please excuse all spelling errors if there are any, I type fast and don't
check for misspelled words...hee hee.





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From: Dan Legare <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) end of everything is wrong
Date: 23 Feb 1998 03:36:37 -0700

just wondering....

any reason why the u.s. elektra copy of 'end of everything' contains
'reject' (which figures on little idiot-animal rights 2cd) and the u.k. (?)
copy of e of e has another track in it's place?

also, any clue where i might be able to find those sought after moby hymn
singles? i only know of alt.quiet.version and album version.... i am trying
to round out my collection (picked up revolver ep-the rollo & sister bliss
is bliss, and come on baby cd5) and trying to find any of the hymn singles.
found three into the blue singles, this would make the total number of i
the b mixes i found to 15 so far (not incl. album version). with so many
mixes of this song, anyone have a fave? mine would be the voodoo child mix
(so far)....

also, i am peaks freak, wanted to know if anyone knew if the segment in
'go' (laura palmer's theme) was ripped off angelo badalamenti's peice or
did moby actually colaborate on this with lynch and badalamenti and just
released it himself after/before the fact. never did see moby in the
credits for that song....

hey thanks-

also-one last bleepin question-does 'thousand' go up to 1000 bpms? guiness
book of world questions...really?

cheers,
danny

Dan Legare
Nettwerk Mail Order Department
[e-mail]
Nettwerk Productions-Box 330 1755 Robson St. Vancouver, BC V6G 2B5
PH-604.654.2929  FX-604.654.1993 [e-mail]
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From: Dan Legare <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) dark
Date: 23 Feb 1998 03:40:08 -0700


WHere did you get DArk from?  I have never heard of it

THeo

off the 'that's when i reach for my revovler' remix cd5

bliss

danny

Dan Legare
Nettwerk Mail Order Department
[e-mail]
Nettwerk Productions-Box 330 1755 Robson St. Vancouver, BC V6G 2B5
PH-604.654.2929  FX-604.654.1993 [e-mail]
http://www.nettwerk.com








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From: Rob Skipworth <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) end of everything is wrong
Date: 23 Feb 1998 05:45:07 -0600

Hi,
    This may be a weeee bit off subject but I'm very curious.  Last year when i
first got really into Moby, I remember really digging that track "Insomnia" by
Faithless.  I looked through it again and noticed that part of faithless is
made up of Rollo and & Sister Bliss.  Now, I'm wondering if anyone has thier
remix of this moby song in an mp3 file???? and secondly, what do you guys think
of the faithless cd.  I really like it, but I'm curious of your opinions.
Email me personally, as I'm sure most of the list doesn't really care about
this.

Rob S


> .... i am trying
> to round out my collection (picked up revolver ep-the rollo & sister bliss
> is bliss, and come on baby cd5) and trying to find any of the hymn singles.






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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) thousand
Date: 23 Feb 1998 08:24:23 -0600 (CST)

the sond "thousand" actually gets over 1000 beats per minute.  i am guessig it
works on a powers of 2 scale, because the figure i have seen says the top speed
it reaches is 1024 bpm (2^10 = 1024)  i don't know how they measured this
considering after not too long, the beats just turn into a bass drum roll of
sorts...

andy

gingerbread man

"run, run, as fast as you can,
    you can't catch me, I'm the gingerbread man!"



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From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) discography
Date: 23 Feb 1998 14:56:58 -0700

The discography has finally received its long-awaited update.
I am sorry for the delay, which was caused by a combination of my
procrastination, technical difficulties, and a prodigious amount
of new information.  It is possible that I misplaced some info
and failed to include an update that was submitted, or name
someone in the credits.  If so, please email me and I'll fix it
in the next update, which will not 10 months late. ;)

The discography is located at http://www.moby.org/discog.html
and may be freely copied, mirrored, or distributed in its
entirety as long as no modifications are made.  If you have
something to add or change, please let me know so they can be
incorporated into the next version of the discography.

Thanks,

Daniel Cerman
http://www.moby.org/



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From: Dan Legare <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) moby/trent reznor/ian curtis
Date: 23 Feb 1998 04:45:07 -0700

>of course my fave joy division cver is Bush/Tricky's (in a lonely
>place" a nice quiet ambient song, enhanced by soft buzzing
>synths...good to fall asleep to, after all the other electronic noise
>on the Deconstructed disk...I love the goldie mix on that cd too, its
>better than the original...

and don't forget nine inch nail's cover of 'dead souls'.

anyone out there thinks trent or moby might be the 'ian curtis' of the
90's? if curtis were unselfish enough to be alive today-he could have been
king in terms of all this angst and individual thought, whilst expressing
it with innovative and creative sounds. indeed.

i could swear i hear curtis in moby's new dawn fades and nin's dead souls.
eerie.

for all intents and purposes-'means to an end' has to be one of the
all-time best compilations out there. check out low's lo-fi rendition of
'transmission'.

yikes

Dan Legare
Nettwerk Mail Order Department
[e-mail]
Nettwerk Productions-Box 330 1755 Robson St. Vancouver, BC V6G 2B5
PH-604.654.2929  FX-604.654.1993 [e-mail]
http://www.nettwerk.com








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From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) discography
Date: 23 Feb 1998 14:56:58 -0700

The discography has finally received its long-awaited update.
I am sorry for the delay, which was caused by a combination of my
procrastination, technical difficulties, and a prodigious amount
of new information.  It is possible that I misplaced some info
and failed to include an update that was submitted, or name
someone in the credits.  If so, please email me and I'll fix it
in the next update, which will not 10 months late. ;)

The discography is located at http://www.moby.org/discog.html
and may be freely copied, mirrored, or distributed in its
entirety as long as no modifications are made.  If you have
something to add or change, please let me know so they can be
incorporated into the next version of the discography.

Thanks,

Daniel Cerman
http://www.moby.org/



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From: Furball <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Inspector Gadget remix...Moby got beat to it. :)
Date: 23 Feb 1998 21:20:34 -0600 (CST)

Hello.

For all of you who have recently been talking about Moby doing a remix of
the Inspector Gadget theme, I'm going to speak up and say that my musical
counterpart Brad Comer and I (collectively known as SuRReN) have been
working out the logistics for such a remix since November. :P Anyhow, we
plan to use quite a bit of 303, and opt for an older-school
electronically-produced beat (most of the recent TV/movie theme remixes use
sampled breaks). Brad is probably going to play trumpet for the
original-sounding parts. It's going to be a refreshing, slightly danceable
take on the theme, but will remain true to the original.

Just felt like bringing it to people's attention. :)

   *-----------------------=====================--------------------------*
   |        I'm on an ocean that has a brain and makes us dream...        |
   |          I'm on a mission to wipe imagination clean...               |
   |                         -Failure, "Solaris"                          |
   | DJFurball on IRC                                   Kevin in reality  |
   |                  http://www.pla-net.net/~furball                     |
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From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) end of everything is wrong
Date: 23 Feb 1998 08:30:45 -0700

Dan Legare wrote:
> any reason why the u.s. elektra copy of 'end of everything' contains
> 'reject' (which figures on little idiot-animal rights 2cd) and the u.k. (?)
> copy of e of e has another track in it's place?

I suppose because "Reject" was not yet released in the states, and Moby
wanted to include it.  The US version of _The End of Everything_ is his
favorite record, I believe.

> also, i am peaks freak, wanted to know if anyone knew if the segment in
> 'go' (laura palmer's theme) was ripped off angelo badalamenti's peice or
> did moby actually colaborate on this with lynch and badalamenti and just
> released it himself after/before the fact. never did see moby in the
> credits for that song....

Moby used the Twin Peaks music 'after the fact'.  "Go" was never used in
Twin Peaks.  I think that Badalamenti was actually pretty happy that his
music became a worldwide dance hit.

> also-one last bleepin question-does 'thousand' go up to 1000 bpms? guiness
> book of world questions...really?

Yes, it reportedly peaks at a bit over 1000 bpm.  I think it was in
the Guinness Book of World Records, but I don't remember for sure.
I've also heard claims that some other people have gone to like 4000
bpm.  Seems pretty silly to me...

Daniel Cerman
http://www.moby.org/



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From: theShackofXaq <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) end of everything is wrong
Date: 23 Feb 1998 09:43:31 -0600 (CST)

On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Rob Skipworth wrote:
> made up of Rollo and & Sister Bliss.  Now, I'm wondering if anyone has thier
> remix of this moby song in an mp3 file???? and secondly, what do you guys think
> of the faithless cd.  I really like it, but I'm curious of your opinions.
> Email me personally, as I'm sure most of the list doesn't really care about
> this.

i absolutely (sp?) LOVE faithless! i got into them last year when a
friend started sending me records from england.
i strongly recommend any moby fan to check them out!
i think "salva mea" has to be the most insane club/house song ever. i
have a really good remix of "insomnia" also. i have the 2xLP called
"ir-reverance." is that the cd you're talking about?
they also did a good mix of olive's "you're not alone."
anyway, like i said, i think everyone here should hunt their stuff down
(only in the UK...damn!) and hear for yourself.

[xaq]
     "who needs 8 boobs when you can have 24?"
                                              -that dog puppet on conan




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From: theShackofXaq <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) end of everything is wrong
Date: 23 Feb 1998 09:43:31 -0600 (CST)

On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Rob Skipworth wrote:
> made up of Rollo and & Sister Bliss.  Now, I'm wondering if anyone has thier
> remix of this moby song in an mp3 file???? and secondly, what do you guys think
> of the faithless cd.  I really like it, but I'm curious of your opinions.
> Email me personally, as I'm sure most of the list doesn't really care about
> this.

i absolutely (sp?) LOVE faithless! i got into them last year when a
friend started sending me records from england.
i strongly recommend any moby fan to check them out!
i think "salva mea" has to be the most insane club/house song ever. i
have a really good remix of "insomnia" also. i have the 2xLP called
"ir-reverance." is that the cd you're talking about?
they also did a good mix of olive's "you're not alone."
anyway, like i said, i think everyone here should hunt their stuff down
(only in the UK...damn!) and hear for yourself.

[xaq]
     "who needs 8 boobs when you can have 24?"
                                              -that dog puppet on conan




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From: theShackofXaq <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) end of everything is wrong
Date: 24 Feb 1998 13:10:22 -0600 (CST)

On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Daniel Cerman wrote:
> Yes, it reportedly peaks at a bit over 1000 bpm.  I think it was in
> the Guinness Book of World Records, but I don't remember for sure.
> I've also heard claims that some other people have gone to like 4000
> bpm.  Seems pretty silly to me...

i gabber guy named johnny violent (ultra violence) has a song that goes
up to 20 million bpms. i use it to open my show every tuesday night.
i dunno if it actually goes that high. i usually lose count around 5
million....
[xaq]
    he's got a bucket full of crotch flavored popcorn.
                                                     crow




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From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) end of everything is wrong
Date: 24 Feb 1998 13:32:40 -0700

theShackofXaq wrote:
> i gabber guy named johnny violent (ultra violence) has a song that goes
> up to 20 million bpms. i use it to open my show every tuesday night.
> i dunno if it actually goes that high. i usually lose count around 5
> million....

Hmmm, 20 million bpm is 1 million beats every 3 seconds, which is over
333,333 beats per second.  The sampling rate of a CD is 44.1kHz, so
there about 7.5 beats per unit of digital information on CD.  At that
supposed speed, how can it be considered a 'beat'?  My guess would be
that it sounds like a drone, which might be considered 0 bpm ambient. :)

>     he's got a bucket full of crotch flavored popcorn.

I bet!

obMoby:
Does anybody happen to have the Drug Fits The Face 12" that includes
the track "Mad Love"?  I would really like a copy (or an original ;)
and would be willing to trade for it.

Daniel Cerman
http://www.moby.org/



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Update
Date: 24 Feb 1998 15:57:52 EST

First, as of right now the only people that can receive MP3 files on my
mailing list are those on AOL.  I am going to figure out why others are not
receiving them.

Second, Moby is playing a concert called UNIVERSE 98 on Sunday 24th May, in
Knebworth.  Headlining will be Beck.  Others are :Spiritualized,Bentley Rhythm
Ace, Lo-fidelity All Stars.  This sucks, my two fav's (Moby and Beck) are
going to be at one concert and I can't go.

Third and finally, I went to St. Charles this weekend and went to a mall
called Cornerstone or something like that.  I went to a record shop there and
they had a moby poster from ILTS on the wall.  A promo poster. I asked the guy
if i could have it, he said let me check if i have more.  He comes back and
says, i don't more but i have these, and handed me a Animal rights poster (the
one with moby's up close face) and a pin-up of ILTS.  He said, i don't even
think anyone here knows who he is.  I just said thank you and left.

-Carmen B.
p.s.  Mp3 files will go out today as well as Thurs.



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From: Rob Skipworth <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Update
Date: 24 Feb 1998 15:10:03 -0600

will you please post these files on a site so people who have a real internet
connection instead of AOHell can listen to them?


[e-mail] wrote:

> First, as of right now the only people that can receive MP3 files on my
> mailing list are those on AOL.  I am going to figure out why others are not
> receiving them.
>
> Second, Moby is playing a concert called UNIVERSE 98 on Sunday 24th May, in
> Knebworth.  Headlining will be Beck.  Others are :Spiritualized,Bentley Rhythm
> Ace, Lo-fidelity All Stars.  This sucks, my two fav's (Moby and Beck) are
> going to be at one concert and I can't go.
>
> Third and finally, I went to St. Charles this weekend and went to a mall
> called Cornerstone or something like that.  I went to a record shop there and
> they had a moby poster from ILTS on the wall.  A promo poster. I asked the guy
> if i could have it, he said let me check if i have more.  He comes back and
> says, i don't more but i have these, and handed me a Animal rights poster (the
> one with moby's up close face) and a pin-up of ILTS.  He said, i don't even
> think anyone here knows who he is.  I just said thank you and left.
>
> -Carmen B.
> p.s.  Mp3 files will go out today as well as Thurs.






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From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) useless go info, stufff
Date: 24 Feb 1998 14:05:50 -0800 (PST)

Hey dudes. as you might have heard, i am listening to my entire
cd/tape collection in abc order. I was recently listening to my moby
music (all 2 cds and 1 tape) and while I was listening to the complete
go remixes cd from the rare cd, i thought for no good reason that i
would count every time the "GO!!" sample was used. (please don't ask
why I did this, I have no fucking clue.) Anyway, I counted 340 go's,
including kind-of distorted or hard to find go's that have strategicly
been placed between loud beats or "Yeah"s etc. I didn't include
echoing go's, unless they were loud enough  or something. The mix with
the least go's is the voodoo child mix, which doesn't use the sample.
The mix with the most is the Amphetamix (now why would Moby, the
extreme anti-druggie we all know him to be, title a mix Amphetamix?
had to ask...) it has 106 go's. It's like a go a second for a few
seconds. the average go's per track is about 24, which is like the
first mix on the cd (4got the name) plus a go or so. Note:this is only
for the versions in the go cd that comes w/rare, which excerpts some
mixes (like the accept-few-substitutes ORIGINAL VERSION perhaps?), and
I'm not the best counter so it's probably wrong. But whatever. Ya know
for some reason, I have a feeling
someone has already did this...

Anyway, is thousand really in the guiness book? maybe if they have a
website it would say somewhere...it's not in my edition of the gbowr,
which is like 94 or something. I guess i'll hafta go to the library
and check it out...

some  sven vath news i found out in the dance column in the feb. 7th
billboard:
"Also plotting a return to the dance-floor is German technomeister Sve
Vath(bold). He'll end a five-year break from recording with "Fusion,"
a stunning collection due at the end of March on Virgin in the U.K.
and Europe.
Vath accurately describes the trance-leaning project, on which he's
collaborated with Ralf Hildeneutel(bold), as far less conceptual and
intentionally accessible to mainstream punters. "We tried to go in a
different direction", he says. "It's dedicated much more to the club
scene, more beats and rhythms--[it's] showing the range of things that
I'm into.""
Other news in the billboard mag:the Chembros (my other faves) are
ressurecting their record labal Freestyle Dust Records. Also, it says
about the new single by "The Paul Simpson Connection." kind of
interesting ther'es a dj who has the same name as me out there.

I heard a new Madonna song yesterday. Not "Frozen," but the title
track, "Ray of Light." Very housy, kind of like the new janet jackson
only a lot more interesting. a slight alternatve-rock vibe, a few
guitars. But the voice does not sound like Madonna. If the dj did not
say it was her, i wouldn't have known. wow.

The radio station i heard that on was this new station called Beat
Radio. The format:music with a beat. All club music!!! phat. It's a
whole network of stations. The one I get is from New York, at 1660 AM.
Where the old Aahs World Radio used to be, before it shut down last
month. I guess all the stations that used to be  Aahs turned into this
station. Unfortunately, they only are on 12 hours a day, 7 days a
week. The rest is like a country station or something. Blaahh. Well,
now I can hear Dj Supreme on the radio, among other things. Yay.
Maybe they have a website, don't know.

guess dat's it guys...check the new signature...


==
"What was that?"
"Just a curse, honey. Have a nice day."
  -Adams Family Values
>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<



_________________________________________________________
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Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com




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From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) shapeshifter
Date: 24 Feb 1998 14:08:41 -0800 (PST)

oh yeah, my address is
Paul Simpson
12 Dadio Road
Hamden, CT 06517

if you wanna send me a blank tape to get a copy of my tape. Tentative
title is
Dj Shapeshifter/V1:The Endless, Relentless Saga Begins

not bad, eh? whatever. I already got loads of ideas for V2. I should
start recording soon. Well, bye
==
"What was that?"
"Just a curse, honey. Have a nice day."
  -Adams Family Values
>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<



_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Update
Date: 24 Feb 1998 17:29:10 -0500 (EST)

i just have one question--where is knebworth? where do you live? i would like
to know where this moby show is!
i also got one of those promo posters from a guy who said no one else would
want it. :(
so, that is bad and good i guess.
i out.
cookypuss




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) shapeshifter
Date: 24 Feb 1998 17:31:08 -0500 (EST)

i am sorry i must have missed this, but what exactly is on yr. tape, Paul?
you can mail me back personally.
cookypuss



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From: Philip Johnson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) end of everything is wrong
Date: 24 Feb 1998 17:24:20 -0600

theShackofXaq wrote:
>
> On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Rob Skipworth wrote:
> > made up of Rollo and & Sister Bliss.  Now, I'm wondering if anyone has thier
> > remix of this moby song in an mp3 file???? and secondly, what do you guys think
> > of the faithless cd.  I really like it, but I'm curious of your opinions.
> > Email me personally, as I'm sure most of the list doesn't really care about
> > this.
>
> i absolutely (sp?) LOVE faithless! i got into them last year when a
> friend started sending me records from england.
> i strongly recommend any moby fan to check them out!
> i think "salva mea" has to be the most insane club/house song ever. i
> have a really good remix of "insomnia" also. i have the 2xLP called
> "ir-reverance." is that the cd you're talking about?
> they also did a good mix of olive's "you're not alone."
> anyway, like i said, i think everyone here should hunt their stuff down
> (only in the UK...damn!) and hear for yourself.
>
> [xaq]
>      "who needs 8 boobs when you can have 24?"
>                                               -that dog puppet on conan
********************************************************************************
hey i'm kinda new to the list, but i have the Faithless "Insomnia" mix
CD..was put out
by arista records in '97.  It has six different mixes of
Insomnia..pretty cool..they played the song at a local club here a few
weeks ago..could do without the marijuana lyrics though :o)  PJ808



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From: John Turpin <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Inspector Gadget remix...Moby got beat to it. :)
Date: 24 Feb 1998 16:56:12 -0600

>For all of you who have recently been talking about Moby doing a remix of
>the Inspector Gadget theme, I'm going to speak up and say that my musical
>counterpart Brad Comer and I (collectively known as SuRReN) have been
>working out the logistics for such a remix since November. :P Anyhow, we
>plan to use quite a bit of 303, and opt for an older-school
>electronically-produced beat (most of the recent TV/movie theme remixes use
>sampled breaks). Brad is probably going to play trumpet for the
>original-sounding parts. It's going to be a refreshing, slightly danceable
>take on the theme, but will remain true to the original.
>
>Just felt like bringing it to people's attention. :)

Didn't Doug E. Fresh use a little bit of this track too?

Off-topically,

--
    C        The C.O.D.         John Turpin
    |                <jct1@
   / \                Ra.MsState.Edu>
  O   D    <http://www2.msstate.edu/~jct1/cod/>





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From: L Potter <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) end of everything is wrong
Date: 24 Feb 1998 19:45:35 -0500

Getting a little off topic yet again...

I have the Reverence CD by Faithless and was only halfway impressed by it...
"Salva Mea" and "Imsonia" are probably the best songs on that CD... going a
step further, probably the only songs worth listening to... I was pretty
disappointed
that Faithless is a product of Rollo and Sister Bliss... however, the Epic
Mix of
"Salva Mea" is outstanding... gotta like how the recent trend in
techno/dance music
is using particular Faithless sound now when they've been using it since
1996...
and the Nightmares on Wax mix of Olive's "You're Not Alone" is probably the
best
I've heard... nice flowing bassline... but I digress...

Laters...

>> > made up of Rollo and & Sister Bliss.  Now, I'm wondering if anyone has
thier
>> > remix of this moby song in an mp3 file???? and secondly, what do you
guys think
>> > of the faithless cd.  I really like it, but I'm curious of your opinions.
>> > Email me personally, as I'm sure most of the list doesn't really care
about
>> > this.
>>
>> i absolutely (sp?) LOVE faithless! i got into them last year when a
>> friend started sending me records from england.
>> i strongly recommend any moby fan to check them out!
>> i think "salva mea" has to be the most insane club/house song ever. i
>> have a really good remix of "insomnia" also. i have the 2xLP called
>> "ir-reverance." is that the cd you're talking about?
>> they also did a good mix of olive's "you're not alone."
>> anyway, like i said, i think everyone here should hunt their stuff down
>> (only in the UK...damn!) and hear for yourself.

>hey i'm kinda new to the list, but i have the Faithless "Insomnia" mix
>CD..was put out
>by arista records in '97.  It has six different mixes of
>Insomnia..pretty cool..they played the song at a local club here a few
>weeks ago..could do without the marijuana lyrics though :o)  PJ808
>




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From: Furball <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Inspector Gadget remix...Moby got beat to it. :)
Date: 24 Feb 1998 19:49:45 -0600 (CST)

At 04:56 PM 2/24/98 -0600, you wrote:
>Didn't Doug E. Fresh use a little bit of this track too?

Not a full-out remix, like we're doing. All new parts, no samples from the
original. :) Problem is, we need to find out who did the original. Oh well..

>--
>    C        The C.O.D.         John Turpin
>    |                <jct1@
>   / \                Ra.MsState.Edu>
>  O   D    <http://www2.msstate.edu/~jct1/cod/>
   *-----------------------=====================--------------------------*
   |        I'm on an ocean that has a brain and makes us dream...        |
   |          I'm on a mission to wipe imagination clean...               |
   |                         -Failure, "Solaris"                          |
   | DJFurball on IRC                                   Kevin in reality  |
   |                  http://www.pla-net.net/~furball                     |
   *-----------------------=====================--------------------------*




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Update
Date: 24 Feb 1998 21:38:59 EST

For everyone's info, Knebworth is in the Northern District in jolly ol'
England.


Wishing i was eating fish n' chips
-Carmen B.



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From: Your Name <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) hi from evolution2000
Date: 24 Feb 1998 20:05:46 +0000

hi
thought i'd join in if that's okay with all you moby heads>>>>>
one day we'll be the next wave of dead heads who forgot to shower and go
to work just to watch the mobe-dude rock his nut
yeah right!

my name is clay
i live in san diego...chula vista actually....you can see tijuana from
my windows and it is beautiful at night.
i'm 41 and have 2 kids 12 my son clay and my 18 yr-old daughter tomi.
they like moby too.
but of course dad was a punk before they were a punk so i get a little
credit for bringing the bald one's music home first.
i'm not a big fan of hanson or marilyn manson.
i heard some early mobyprobably around 95 but wasn't really blown away
til i heard everything is wrong.
i read the manifestoes as i heard the cd for the first time and was
basically knocked outta my chair.
i have several cds and a few of his 12' singles.
i also like orbital, bt, gabriel, bjork, captain sensible,
the orb, early renegade soundwave, erasure, chopin, debussy, and bach.
i've been making some form of music or another since about 81
ex- men of clay> dogs with masks> pangs> year from yesterday>
beatnik machine>
and now evolution2000 and moon>mercury>two

so.....i guess that's it.

hope life is treating you okay.
i've had some very strange days this week and well......
this is kinda nice.

later.

clay



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) thanks compilation
Date: 25 Feb 1998 02:06:40 -0600 (CST)

for those of you who didn't order the compilation cd, or those of you who
haven't gotten it yet and just can't wait to hear it, i have posted 6 of the 9
tracks on my web page.  they are in VERY LOW quality real audio format.

http://vms.www.uwplatt.edu/~daviesa/

let me remind everyone that you can no longer order the cd.  (just so i don't
get a whole bunch of requests!)

andy

gingerbread man

"run, run, as fast as you can,
    you can't catch me, I'm the gingerbread man!"



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) compailtion cd
Date: 25 Feb 1998 02:42:43 -0600 (CST)

now i know some of you haven't gotten you cds yet (they are coming soon!  i
promise!) but i thought i would give some cd demographics for fun!  (sorry if
this wastes anyone's time...)

there were 57 total cds made, 1 a master copy and 1 to moby himself!

14 cds were sent to somewhere in europe.
the midwest received the most cds with 17 (yea midwest!)
the northeast got 10
the deep south & southeast states together got 6
and the west & southwest states together got 9

17.9% cds were ordered by females
80.4% cds were ordered by males
 1.7% cds were ordered by gender neutral

2 cds did get lost without a trace for 60 days.  they were sent to london and
were returned with "insufficient address" stamped on it.  i resent to the same
address and they got there in 5 days!

10 cds were destroyed because of either a bad cd, or a hardware error.

i recieved 45 individual pieces of mail because of this.  included with the
mail were stickers, pictures, stationary, calligraphy, cool-looking checks,
neato handwriting, notes, encouragement, and (oh yeah!) cash!

i guess that is all i can think of now.  if there is anything else you want to
know, just ask.

thanks again to everyone for their great support and patience!  (especially the
patience--and especially for those who are still waiting!  SORRY!)

andy

"run, run, as fast as you can,
    you can't catch me, I'm the gingerbread man!"



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From: Keith Forsythe <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) pixies
Date: 25 Feb 1998 09:34:56 -0600

He should cover "gouge away".  Do you think moby and frank black would have
much to talk about?
Keith Forsythe
[e-mail]
[e-mail]



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From: Keith Forsythe <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) ska
Date: 25 Feb 1998 10:16:06 -0600

Moby doing a ska cover?  Perhaps Less Than Jake or Bosstones?
Keith Forsythe
[e-mail]
[e-mail]



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) thanks remixes
Date: 25 Feb 1998 13:15:13 +0000

Is there anyone in the Dallas area that could
make me a tape of the "Thanks Remixes"?
I listened to them last night in Real Audio
and I loved it. It's great to hear new versions.
Anyway, I'd really love a copy if someone could help me
RT



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) pixies
Date: 25 Feb 1998 14:15:31 EST

Moby and Frank would make some kick-ass Punk rock togeather dont ya think?



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From: EvilNinja2 <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) ska
Date: 25 Feb 1998 15:08:40 EST

how about a real ska cover like Madness' "One Step Beyond"! That, my friends,
would be truely awesome.

dj tripp



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From: Samu Heinonen <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Paul Yates and Moby at Pork Guys
Date: 25 Feb 1998 22:17:41 +0200 (EET)

I heard some time ago that Moby and paul yates had done new Pork Guys
album from Paul Yates. is it released already?

|********************************|
| Samu Heinonen ([e-mail]) |
|       www.dlc.fi/~samuhei      |
|    -Coffee is poison (-Moby)   |
|********************************|




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From: Samu Heinonen <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) some outtakes
Date: 25 Feb 1998 22:29:57 +0200 (EET)


SOME OUTTAKES AND STUFF  [1998]
CS

 A  _:__  Tallest Building in the World
    _:__  Why You Hurt Me So?
    _:__  Novio                                 [different version with
drums]
    _:__  Revolver (slow version)
    _:__  Revolver (synth version)
    _:__  Running Black Woman
    _:__  Come On Baby
    _:__  Oil 2
    _:__  Lost Again                                  [remix of song by
Yello]
    _:__  Until It Sleeps                         [remix of song by
Metallica]
    _:__  The Bottom of the Pool
 B  _:__  Everytime You Touch Me                            [acoustic
version]
    _:__  Lift You
    _:__  Weird Seduction
    _:__  My Love Will Never Die
    _:__  Simple
    _:__  So Honest
    _:__  Schaumgummi                                     [vocals: Paul
Yates]
    _:__  Inside
    _:__  Bond Theme
    _:__  Double Tap pieces

anyone have it? i would like to have copy of it. i could send cassette
and some money or trade some other tapes (i own 2 moby live tapes
minneapolis & stockholm live)
please mail if you have this

|********************************|
| Samu Heinonen ([e-mail]) |
|       www.dlc.fi/~samuhei      |
|    -Coffee is poison (-Moby)   |
|********************************|




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From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) some outtakes
Date: 25 Feb 1998 13:40:26 -0700

Samu Heinonen wrote:
> SOME OUTTAKES AND STUFF  [1998]
...
> anyone have it? i would like to have copy of it. i could send cassette
> and some money or trade some other tapes (i own 2 moby live tapes
> minneapolis & stockholm live)

I have it, and can trade you a copy for Stockholm live.

Dan



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From: Samu Heinonen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) some outtakes
Date: 25 Feb 1998 22:46:26 +0200 (EET)


On Wednesday, February 25, 1998 13:40:26 you wrote:

>
>Samu Heinonen wrote:
>> SOME OUTTAKES AND STUFF  [1998]
>....
>> anyone have it? i would like to have copy of it. i could send
cassette
>> and some money or trade some other tapes (i own 2 moby live tapes
>> minneapolis & stockholm live)
>
>I have it, and can trade you a copy for Stockholm live.
>
>Dan
>
>
Ok. That's good idea. It also includes some moby remixes that tape, i
mean. It's recorded from radio, Swedish radio broadcast it couple of
years ago, i got it from friend of mine.
What's your address where i could send that tape?
My address is
Samu Heinonen
Huuhkajatie 7
01450 Vantaa
Finland
Europe
Thanx a lot!


|********************************|
| Samu Heinonen ([e-mail]) |
|       www.dlc.fi/~samuhei      |
|    -Coffee is poison (-Moby)   |
|********************************|




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) ska
Date: 25 Feb 1998 16:27:57 EST

MOBY seemed very  interested in the Bosstones at Q101's Jamboree a while back.
he encouraged everyone there to definately see them...

ironically, the bosstones began playing during moby's set (as i
remember)...there wasnt much left to see after moby finished and everyone
cleared out of that area...

~L~



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From: Furball <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) ska
Date: 25 Feb 1998 15:50:53 -0600 (CST)

At 04:27 PM 2/25/98 EST, you wrote:
>MOBY seemed very  interested in the Bosstones at Q101's Jamboree a while back.
>he encouraged everyone there to definately see them...

Heh. The funny thing about the Q101 Jamboree was the way they promoted such
blatantly alterna-rock acts such as Korn and the Bosstones so heavily that
they pretty much eschewed Moby promotion. Most of the people I know who went
didn't even know he played at it. :P

>~L~
   *-----------------------=====================--------------------------*
   |        I'm on an ocean that has a brain and makes us dream...        |
   |          I'm on a mission to wipe imagination clean...               |
   |                         -Failure, "Solaris"                          |
   | DJFurball on IRC                                   Kevin in reality  |
   |                  http://www.pla-net.net/~furball                     |
   *-----------------------=====================--------------------------*




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From: Bill Tatalovich <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) compailtion cd
Date: 25 Feb 1998 17:07:54 -0600 (CST)


On Wed, 25 Feb 1998 [e-mail] wrote:

> now i know some of you haven't gotten you cds yet (they are coming soon!  i
> promise!) but i thought i would give some cd demographics for fun!  (sorry if
> this wastes anyone's time...)

Sorry, I just joined this list again (I doubt anyone remembers me from the
last time I was on the list, about a year ago), but what exactly was this
CD?  I'm just curious, that's all...

Also, any news on any tour dates?  If not, what's Moby up to nowadays?

Glad to be back,

Bill Tatalovich
[e-mail]




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From: "Michaela Gerstner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) ska
Date: 25 Feb 1998 17:28:11 -0700

hmm.. less than jake, huh?  it would be interesting.  i know less than jake
(use to live in their home town- gainesville, fl)... that would be
something i'd like to see!
Blessed Be,
Plovious
http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Vines/3589/

----------
> From: Keith Forsythe <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: (mobility) ska
> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 1998 9:16 AM
>
> Moby doing a ska cover?  Perhaps Less Than Jake or Bosstones?
> Keith Forsythe
> [e-mail]
> [e-mail]



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From: Ryu <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) thousand
Date: 25 Feb 1998 19:37:24 -0500

At 08:24 AM 2/23/98 -0600, you wrote:
>the sond "thousand" actually gets over 1000 beats per minute.  i am guessig it
>works on a powers of 2 scale, because the figure i have seen says the top speed
>it reaches is 1024 bpm (2^10 = 1024)  i don't know how they measured this
>considering after not too long, the beats just turn into a bass drum roll of
>sorts...

i'm assuming moby measured it himself really.
just put the normal 4/4 kick drum on as like a 16th or 32nd note in increments
of 4...then ran the tempo up as high as his sequencer would go.
no big deal really.
lots of artists have topped the 1024 bpm mark.

love,
ryu

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 My name is Ryu.  I make hard emotional
 electronic music.  To hear some, get cds,
   and see stuff, go to my homepage at:
http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 Ryu  |  [e-mail]  |  814-867-0756
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) To: [e-mail]
Date: 25 Feb 1998 19:13:11 -0600 (CST)

bad news.  i lost all the files for the web page with the thanks cd songs.  i
will try to get them back up soon.

andy

gingerbread man



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From: theShackofXaq <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) xero products "lull" offer
Date: 25 Feb 1998 22:15:59 -0600 (CST)

hey there mobites.
as you may or may not know, i produce my own music. i'm currnetly working
with ryu on getting my first cd done. it'll contain about 10 songs.
i write a wide varity of music, but mainly stay in the happy melodic
house relm. (sound like anyone you know?)
here's the deal:
i'm offering to send you a free TAPE of the yet to be finnished cd. well,
i guess you have to send me the tape, but it'll still be free music! all
you have to do is be one of the first 10 (ten) people to respond to this
email. then, send me a 90min tape (if you want it all) and i'll get it
right back to you.
what i hope to acomplish:
when you get the tape, feel free to spill your guts! tell me what you
think. i know this is a moby list, so i guess you'll have to keep your
comments private, but i certainly won't stop you from doing otherwise.
*hint hint* i want to get some input from people other than my good
friends. not that i don't consider you all my friends, but you get the
picture.
once i get the cd done, i'll let ya'll know. unfortunatly, i MUST charge
for the cd, but i promise to keep it as low as possible.
so respond PRIVATELY to this mail, i'll give you my address, send your
tape, wait, get it back, and enjoy!
thanks for your time,
[xaq]
"i think a lot, but it never helps me, so i stop.
            but i really enjoy thinking."
                   Masafumi Sanai
                     photographer




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From: Your Name <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) xero products "lull" offer
Date: 24 Feb 1998 20:37:04 +0000

responding fast


clay



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) ska
Date: 26 Feb 1998 01:08:08 -0500 (EST)

i just saw less than jake a week or so ago. i think they would be a good cover.



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From: Daniel Lee <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Let's Go Free
Date: 25 Feb 1998 23:21:35 -0800

I have a question, and please answer honestly.

Does anyone actually listen to "Let's Go Free"? I mean, it's cool to
listen to the first couple of times, but does anyone actually pop on the
CD with the intention of listening to "Let's Go Free"?

I LOVE Moby, but I have to say that "Let's" is probably his weakest
track.

Dan




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (mobility) Let's Go Free
Date: 26 Feb 1998 01:34:22 +0000

Daniel Lee wrote:
>
> I have a question, and please answer honestly.
>
> Does anyone actually listen to "Let's Go Free"? I mean, it's cool to
> listen to the first couple of times, but does anyone actually pop on the
> CD with the intention of listening to "Let's Go Free"?
>
> I LOVE Moby, but I have to say that "Let's" is probably his weakest
> track.
>
> Dan

 Well have you ever heard "No Buttons To Push"?
 It's short and sweet but I love it.
 RT



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From: L Potter <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) xero products "lull" offer
Date: 26 Feb 1998 07:45:48 -0500

I'm game...





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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Thoughts on MOBY
Date: 25 Feb 1998 13:20:40 EST


          The man is truly magikal without a doubt.
             Although the Evil Ninja Little Idiot Voodoo Child may not be
     able to change a world which is overrun with evildoers, he quietly
     goes about setting the paradigm by which all of us would benefit if we
     would only heed his word.
          Is Moby "the" demigod of our times?   Stay tuned.....
                               -The Metropolitician






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From: "Michael Lawyer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) xero products
Date: 26 Feb 1998 10:03:39 CST6CDT

me too...




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From: "Michael Lawyer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Thousand-world record
Date: 26 Feb 1998 10:26:19 CST6CDT

>Anyway, is thousand really in the guiness book?
>maybe if they have a website it would say somewhere...it's not in my >edition of the gbowr,which is like 94 or something. I guess i'll >hafta go to the library and check it out...

   I haven't really researched it or anything, but if you take a look at Rare: The collected B-sides, the CD case has a description of each of the ten tracks. The description of the tenth track, Thousand, says that it is in the GBoWR as "The fastest song ever recorded". At first I found this rather ambiguous, because the "fastest song" isn't necessarily the song with the most bpm, but whoever wrote the track description was probably just paraphrasing or something. Still it holds that as long as whoever mak
es Moby's CD cases is honest and accurate, Moby held the world record.




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From: "Rekkit" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Let's Go Free
Date: 26 Feb 1998 11:38:56 -0800

>Does anyone actually listen to "Let's Go Free"? I mean, it's cool to
>listen to the first couple of times, but does anyone actually pop on the
>CD with the intention of listening to "Let's Go Free"?


I love the live version-I listen to that quite often, but the album track is
definitely a skip-over....
Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page:
http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm





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From: "Eric C Petersen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) xero products "lull" offer
Date: 26 Feb 1998 11:56:14 -0500

count me in.

peterhaus
-----Original Message-----


>hey there mobites.
>as you may or may not know, i produce my own music. i'm currnetly working
>with ryu on getting my first cd done. it'll contain about 10 songs.
>i write a wide varity of music, but mainly stay in the happy melodic
>house relm. (sound like anyone you know?)
>here's the deal:
>i'm offering to send you a free TAPE of the yet to be finnished cd. well,
>i guess you have to send me the tape, but it'll still be free music! all
>you have to do is be one of the first 10 (ten) people to respond to this
>email. then, send me a 90min tape (if you want it all) and i'll get it
>right back to you.
>what i hope to acomplish:
>when you get the tape, feel free to spill your guts! tell me what you
>think. i know this is a moby list, so i guess you'll have to keep your
>comments private, but i certainly won't stop you from doing otherwise.
>*hint hint* i want to get some input from people other than my good
>friends. not that i don't consider you all my friends, but you get the
>picture.
>once i get the cd done, i'll let ya'll know. unfortunatly, i MUST charge
>for the cd, but i promise to keep it as low as possible.
>so respond PRIVATELY to this mail, i'll give you my address, send your
>tape, wait, get it back, and enjoy!
>thanks for your time,
>[xaq]
>"i think a lot, but it never helps me, so i stop.
>     but i really enjoy thinking."
>    Masafumi Sanai
>      photographer
>
>






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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (mobility) Let's Go Free
Date: 26 Feb 1998 10:11:02 -0800

On Thursday, February 26, 1998 11:39 AM, Rekkit [SMTP:[e-mail]]
wrote:

> I love the live version-I listen to that quite often, but the album track is
> definitely a skip-over....

I've never heard the live version (what does it sound like??) but I'd never
skip over it while listening to EIW.  The flow into Everytime You Touch Me
makes me feel like Let's Go Free is just like an intro to it...

Shaun



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From: KCMobyFan <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Going Free and B-Sidse vs Remixes
Date: 26 Feb 1998 15:46:20 EST



I listen to "Let's Go Free" on "Everything Is Wrong" because I think it makes
a really good introduction to "Everytime You Touch Me". Anyone else agree with
this?

Also can I ask whether people prefer to hear remixes or B-sides on Moby's
singles?
   Personally I think some of his best work comes not as the A-sides he
releases but the other tracks like "The Rain Falls And The Sky Shudder", "The
Blue Light Of The Underwater Sun", "Unloved Symphony"  and the brilliant "New
Dawn Fades" was originally a B-Side to "Feeling So Real". But mixes have their
value too, like the Josh Wink remix of "Bring Back My Happiness" and the CJ
Bolland remix of "James bond Theme", also some of Moby's own stuff like
"Everytime... Pure Joy Mix", "Go Low Spirit Mix" and "Into The Blue Summer
Wind Mix".



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From: Jonathan Ruano <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Going Free and B-Sidse vs Remixes
Date: 26 Feb 1998 22:54:03 +0100

On Thu, Feb 26, 1998 at 03:46:20PM -0500, KCMobyFan wrote:

> I listen to "Let's Go Free" on "Everything Is Wrong" because I think it makes
> a really good introduction to "Everytime You Touch Me". Anyone else agree with
> this?
Yes, but I think that you get used to the order of tracks on a CD, and after
one finishes, your memory reminds you the next one..

Jonathan.

--
  512/781AF549 1997/11/26 Jonathan Ruano (low-sec) <[e-mail]>
      Key fingerprint = 7A 87 8E 82 50 82 1D 19  CD BE 3E 20 FA 80 6F 8F
           For more bits, browse http://www.encomix.es/users/jonah/



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From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Going Free and B-Sidse vs Remixes
Date: 26 Feb 1998 14:59:39 -0700

KCMobyFan wrote:
> I listen to "Let's Go Free" on "Everything Is Wrong" because I think it
> makes a really good introduction to "Everytime You Touch Me". Anyone else
> agree with this?

Yes.  Though the album version of "Let's Go Free" is little more than
an interlude, I don't consider it a skip track.

> Also can I ask whether people prefer to hear remixes or B-sides on Moby's
> singles?

Definitely!  I'm a remix & B-side junkie. ;)  I enjoy hearing strange
and cool, long remixes.  Moby is a superb remixer, and his creativity
really shines in non-"A-side" tracks.  Though sometimes the "A-sides"
and album tracks are done perfectly, I usually prefer the less commercial
remixes and B-sides.

Daniel Cerman
http://www.moby.org/



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From: Paul Simpson <[e-mail]>
Date: 26 Feb 1998 14:00:12 -0800 (PST)

stuff...

First of all, according to Rolling Stone mag, Moby is definitely NOT
producing the new Guns N Roses cd. A few producers are, but not him. I
remember Scott Litt and I think Don Was or somebody is producing trax,
but not Moby. Well, there's an article in the RS with that chick from
Titanic on the cover, go to yr local library n check it out...

For all u clubheads, info on BeatRadio....in about 10 cities in the
U.s. including New York, Detroit (home of techno), L.A., Chicago,
Mineapolis, Dallas, and a few more (like Boston or Phoenix or
something) BeatRaio is now on the A.M. dial. They play all club music.
Techno/house/trance 12 hours a day, 7 days a week!!! It starts 7 PM
here (I live in CT, I get the NY station) it starts 6 Pm central, 5pm
mountain, 4pm western. Next time I hear their phone #, I'll call them
and ask if they play Moby (i'm sure they do, why wouldn't they?) they
play a good mix of stuff...mostly new stuff, but an ocassional
mid-80's "roots of house" thingy. It's nice. Check it out.

This moby desert island thing that the nettwerk records guy (congrats
to sarah mclachlan for her grammys...and to the CHEMICAL BROTHERS!!!!
THEY WON BEST ROCK INSTRUMENTAL FOR BLOCK ROCKIN BEATS!!!! YAY!!!!!)
gave me an idea for my homepage...I'm putting up a desert island
recordings list...I'll list mine first, but I''m encouraging y'all to
put yours up...naturally I'm including Everything Is Wrong (if I don't
have that on a desert island, I'll just jump right in the water). I'm
also including stuff like the Chembros' 2 albums, Daft Punk, Beatles'
Greatest Hits, Queen's A Nite At The Opera, Led Zep 4, Nirvana's
Nevermind, stuff like that. E-mail me offlist for yr votes.

Last, I promise I won't plug my tape anymore (unless u want me to...)
my address is
Paul Simpson
12 Dadio Road
Hamden, CT 06517
send me a 60 m. blank tape and I'll send u a copy. It's called V1:The
Endless, Relentless Saga Begins and it's by DJ Shapeshifter. It's a
mix of techno/ambient/noise/sound collages/pop songs recorded with my
kid siblings with stupid words but aren't as near as stupid as Hanson.
It's kinda kool, I just listened to it. that's all. (IF you are
reading this outside the list on the archives page, you can still
order a copy!!! hee hee)

'K Dats all....soy bomb





==
"What was that?"
"Just a curse, honey. Have a nice day."
  -Adams Family Values
>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<



_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com




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From: Insanity in a bottle <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Re: your mail
Date: 26 Feb 1998 17:12:34 -0500 (EST)

Hey paul, what station is that?  i am also in CT...

--marjorana

On Thu, 26 Feb 1998,
Paul Simpson wrote:

> stuff...
>
> First of all, according to Rolling Stone mag, Moby is definitely NOT
> producing the new Guns N Roses cd. A few producers are, but not him. I
> remember Scott Litt and I think Don Was or somebody is producing trax,
> but not Moby. Well, there's an article in the RS with that chick from
> Titanic on the cover, go to yr local library n check it out...
>
> For all u clubheads, info on BeatRadio....in about 10 cities in the
> U.s. including New York, Detroit (home of techno), L.A., Chicago,
> Mineapolis, Dallas, and a few more (like Boston or Phoenix or
> something) BeatRaio is now on the A.M. dial. They play all club music.
> Techno/house/trance 12 hours a day, 7 days a week!!! It starts 7 PM
> here (I live in CT, I get the NY station) it starts 6 Pm central, 5pm
> mountain, 4pm western. Next time I hear their phone #, I'll call them
> and ask if they play Moby (i'm sure they do, why wouldn't they?) they
> play a good mix of stuff...mostly new stuff, but an ocassional
> mid-80's "roots of house" thingy. It's nice. Check it out.
>
> This moby desert island thing that the nettwerk records guy (congrats
> to sarah mclachlan for her grammys...and to the CHEMICAL BROTHERS!!!!
> THEY WON BEST ROCK INSTRUMENTAL FOR BLOCK ROCKIN BEATS!!!! YAY!!!!!)
> gave me an idea for my homepage...I'm putting up a desert island
> recordings list...I'll list mine first, but I''m encouraging y'all to
> put yours up...naturally I'm including Everything Is Wrong (if I don't
> have that on a desert island, I'll just jump right in the water). I'm
> also including stuff like the Chembros' 2 albums, Daft Punk, Beatles'
> Greatest Hits, Queen's A Nite At The Opera, Led Zep 4, Nirvana's
> Nevermind, stuff like that. E-mail me offlist for yr votes.
>
> Last, I promise I won't plug my tape anymore (unless u want me to...)
> my address is
> Paul Simpson
> 12 Dadio Road
> Hamden, CT 06517
> send me a 60 m. blank tape and I'll send u a copy. It's called V1:The
> Endless, Relentless Saga Begins and it's by DJ Shapeshifter. It's a
> mix of techno/ambient/noise/sound collages/pop songs recorded with my
> kid siblings with stupid words but aren't as near as stupid as Hanson.
> It's kinda kool, I just listened to it. that's all. (IF you are
> reading this outside the list on the archives page, you can still
> order a copy!!! hee hee)
>
> 'K Dats all....soy bomb
>
>
>
>
>
> ==
> "What was that?"
> "Just a curse, honey. Have a nice day."
>   -Adams Family Values
> >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<
>
>
>
> _________________________________________________________
> DO YOU YAHOO!?
> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>
>




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From: "Michaela Gerstner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility)one liners
Date: 26 Feb 1998 19:08:32 -0700

i thought we got rid of these annoying one line responses?  it really gets
annoying after a while.  l do recall this line from the e-mail from the
ShackofXaq: so respond PRIVATELY to this mail, i'll give you my address,
send your
tape, wait, get it back, and enjoy!

so, do it PRIVATELY, OK?  it gets annoying when most of the messages are
one liners... kind of a waste.
Blessed Be,
Plovious
http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Vines/3589/



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From: Your Name <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility)one liners
Date: 27 Feb 1998 18:48:06 +0000

well sorry for having contributed to this glut of wasted one-liners.
in my excitement i just hit reply to: and voila
a hundred fellow moby fans got my dumb message
silly me..........
actually i prefer the one line waste
over the 40 line waste as what we do here doesn't seem to require waxing
eloquently
or really at much length
it takes a a few seconds to read a message and blam
it's in the trash
or filed away neatly with all of man's other bits of garbage
i figure when i get tired of such nonsensical little bits of rave and
inquiry i'll just quit the group list >>>not a problem
most of us
it would seem
are not so serious about such matters
and rather enjoy knowing that there are others who dig the music
for whatever reason and on on whatever level.
so......

dig it......
cause as long as new people (like me)
join this list every day there are bound to be a few boneheads
who err in the name of well........
enthusiasm.

and you will never ever really fix that brother.



clay
evolution2000



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From: "cm(matt)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) wtd: some moby stuff
Date: 27 Feb 1998 19:57:30 -0800

hey there....

im looking to get my hands on either of these two tapes below...  im willing
to throw out some cash, or i have a feeling to real remixes cd that i would
be willing to trade....

any sort of deal would be nice, since im dying to get these things....

thanks


-matt
[e-mail]

SOME OUTTAKES AND STUFF  [1998]
CS
A  _:__  Tallest Building in the World
    _:__  Why You Hurt Me So?
    _:__  Novio                                 [different version with
drums]
    _:__  Revolver (slow version)
    _:__  Revolver (synth version)
    _:__  Running Black Woman
    _:__  Come On Baby
    _:__  Oil 2
    _:__  Lost Again                                  [remix of song by
Yello]
    _:__  Until It Sleeps                         [remix of song by
Metallica]
    _:__  The Bottom of the Pool
B  _:__  Everytime You Touch Me                            [acoustic
version]
    _:__  Lift You
    _:__  Weird Seduction
    _:__  My Love Will Never Die
    _:__  Simple
    _:__  So Honest
    _:__  Schaumgummi                                     [vocals: Paul
Yates]
    _:__  Inside
    _:__  Bond Theme
    _:__  Double Tap pieces
>LIVE IN MINNEAPOLIS  [5 Jun 1995]
>CS bootleg
>
> NOTE:  This rare live recording has special live versions of the
> songs listed below, along with other Moby antics.
>
>    3:23  Hymn
>    1:22  Ah Ah
>    3:33  Bring Back My Happiness (Extended Mix)
>    4:35  Move (Disco Threat)
>    3:49  I Need You
[unreleased]
>    4:14  All That I Need Is To Be Loved
>    4:38  Let's Go Free
>    4:12  Go
>    5:55  Next Is The E
>    2:37  Drop A Beat (The New Version)
>    1:22  Everytime You Touch Me               [unreleased slow dance
version]
>    3:29  Everytime You Touch Me                   [unreleased 'pure joy'
mix]
>    5:01  Feeling So Real
>    4:56  New Dawn Fades          [keyboard played by audience member
'Chris']
>    3:36  What Love
>    _:__  [Moby 'writes a new song', showcases his drummers' talents]
>    4:50  Thousand




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From: DropABeat <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) xero products
Date: 26 Feb 1998 22:57:32 EST

Xaq -- if i made it in time, i'd love a copy.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) Clay's Point
Date: 26 Feb 1998 13:27:12 -0600

I must say Clay does make a pretty damn good point.
I understand there are rules here
but I think even Moby would think people are taking
things just a little too serious.
Everyone get over it.
Just be thankful we have Moby's music and
the opportunity to discuss it in this matter

RT
[e-mail]



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From: Dan Legare <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) let's go touch me
Date: 27 Feb 1998 07:55:39 -0700

i couldnt agree with you more. the beauty of eiw is the flow of the tracks,
the fact that 'let's go free' in all in grungy-glory is put right before
eytytm is obviously intentional. has anyone ever done an intro-scan of
'eiw' for people who have never heard of moby. i've done it and people
freak out.

and if i am not mistaken, 'let's go free' (live) was exclusive to that 'in
defense of animal rights vol. 2 (?)' cd?
>
>I listen to "Let's Go Free" on "Everything Is Wrong" because I think it makes
>a really good introduction to "Everytime You Touch Me". Anyone else agree with
>this?
>

Dan Legare
Nettwerk Mail Order Department
[e-mail]
Nettwerk Productions-Box 330 1755 Robson St. Vancouver, BC V6G 2B5
PH-604.654.2929  FX-604.654.1993 [e-mail]
http://www.nettwerk.com








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From: [e-mail] (Ryan Taylor)
Subject: Re: (mobility) compailtion cd
Date: 27 Feb 1998 10:56:07 -0500

>now i know some of you haven't gotten you cds yet (they are coming soon!  i
>promise!)

So I get this email Wednesday..and listen to the .ra samples Andy put on his
site...After this I REALLY can't wait to get my cd..And sure enough..right
before I leave for work that afternoon..I check my mail..there it is...woo
hoo!!! :)

>i guess that is all i can think of now.  if there is anything else you want to
>know, just ask.

Well..I was wondering...If and when I become a dj for the local college
station(already got a name...DjSix(six being a VERY important # in my
life)..Can I play this for the public w/o fearing any repercussions?

Anyways..about the comp...OOOOOOOH...Good stuff..all of you should stand up
and take a bow..You all did a very good job..A few things:

Andy:  It's funny..I was listening to the cd w/o reading the back..EYTM
comes on..that VERY interesting beat starts..and I ask myself.."Where'd Andy
get that beat?"  Then I read the back :).  It's a great beat Andy..Aren't
accidents great? :)
Darryl:  Where'd you get the Swaggart sample?  It's not the first time I've
heard it(MBM used it in "It's The Music")..and I think it fits very
well...Any particular reason why you used it?

If there's ever another remix competition..I think you all have a legitimate
chance on winning...a BIG thanks to Andy(and everyone else) for putting this
together..You did a great job...I'm sure Moby loves it :).

Ryan
np:  Fugazi:  "In On The Kill Taker"

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Ryan Taylor                                        [e-mail]
Homepage to come soon                                    ICQ#:  1607223

"People suing ski areas should be shot." -Scot Schmidt
"...Have you heard of East Timor?" -Consolidated
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From: "Kristof JOOSEN" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Animal Rights  lyrics
Date: 28 Feb 1998 01:07:45 +0100

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Hi all,

I'm still looking for the lyrics of the "Animal rights" album.
Can someone email them, or email an URL, or snail mail them ?

Thanks a lot... I will always love you !!!!  ;-)


Kristof


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From: Damian <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) one liners | "reply" setting
Date: 27 Feb 1998 17:55:58 -0700

Hello,

I have a question for all of the list members.  As you know, if you hit
"reply" to an email that came from Mobility, it is automatically sent
back to the list address.  This is a default that can be changed.  Do
you guys prefer to have the "reply" reflect the senders email address
instead?

Please respond to my email address only.  If there is a strong enough
response I'll look into changing the setup.  Thank you.

[e-mail]
[e-mail]
http://www.xmission.com/~damian/mobility.html




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From: [e-mail] (Alvin)
Subject: (mobility) What's up?
Date: 27 Feb 1998 21:23:46 -0800

Hi!  My name is Alvin and I'm the latest to join.  I'm 22 yo and live in
Southern California.  My collection consists of only major CDs released.
I'm not a hardcore fan as I see most of you guys are.  Jeez!  So, this
is what I have:

Ambient
Animal Rights (Limited Edition 2CD)
Disk
Early Underground
Everything Is Wrong
Everything Is Wrong (Mixed and Remixed)
I Like To Score
Moby
Move
Rare: The Collected B-sides

I first heard Moby from "Cool World" in 1992.  It was an amazing
soundtrack and I had to get it!  That CD basically introduced me to the
techno world.  As much as I like the other artists on the disc, none can
compare as to how much Moby affected me.  The man is just brilliant!!!
The man, the music, the mind: I love everything about him!  And the fact
that he's queer-friendly is like icing on the cake!  Sure I like other
artists, but they come and go.  MOBY IS FOREVER...

[e-mail]



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From: "Michaela Gerstner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility)one liners
Date: 27 Feb 1998 22:24:50 -0700

i'm not one to judge u about contributing.. i think i have too... and i
don't mean to start a fuss about it.  i have a shitty computer that
sometimes doesn't like retrieving lots of messages.. so these one liners
can
get kinda annoying to me.  they piss me off more when my computer decides
it doesn't like me.  so, it's not ur fault but my computer's (and i know
i'm going to pay for saying that.. it knows what i type...).  anyways,
sorry to start this... i don't like pissing ppl off.

also, there is a way to reply to messages personally.  when u hit reply to
(or @ least i can.. i use microsoft internet mail), it pops up the whole
message, including a link to the person's e-mail address.  that's what i
use.  personally, i like the fact that we read what ppl post, so i don't
think we need to change this reply to.  the point of this list is to post
things, so why change it?  that's my opinion anyway...

so, i'll end this before i piss more ppl off.  i guess i should think
sometimes, huh?

Blessed Be,
Plovious




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From: SpeakNeasy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Let's Go Free
Date: 28 Feb 1998 10:49:53 EST

Yeah I don't actively say to myself, " I need an hour of Let's Go Free"  but I
have to admit that in my own compllations that I do not include it.  It is
kind of a skip over.

Theo



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From: SpeakNeasy <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) Voodoo Child
Date: 28 Feb 1998 11:00:19 EST

You know with all of this talk of Everything is Wrong I would just like to
point out that the End of Everything has some really great tracks.  I am
currently listening to Great Lake for about a half hour every day on my
commute to work and I use Patient Love just as a warm up to it.  Although I
love this album, so much that I can barely listen to the whole things at once
since my batteries usually go out with Great Lake, I have to admit with DJ
Tripp that I would like to have some real Techno.  I mean I am really being
deprived of it right now because there isn't a lot of good stuff out there for
it.  It's all jungle or ambient.  Even Prodigy got me angry with their turn
towards jungle and vocals and away from brilliant basic techno form as was
seen in Music of the Jillited Generation.  Mack to Moby, I really like Move,
The End of Everything's B-sides, expecially Into the Blue's ones, and Next is
the E.  However, I have been waiting for another really good Techno album from
him for quite a while and although this Voodoo Child track is giving me a good
time what I really need is the real thing.  So if Moby really listening to us
out there, hey man, give use the real stuff!  The James Bond remixes
expecially track #4 and #6 were incredible, can't we get a new album with that
kind of stuff on it?

Theo



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From: Ryu <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Voodoo Child
Date: 28 Feb 1998 11:59:45 -0500

>I mean I am really being
>deprived of it right now because there isn't a lot of good stuff out there for
>it.  It's all jungle or ambient.  Even Prodigy got me angry with their turn
>towards jungle and vocals and away from brilliant basic techno form as was
>seen in Music of the Jillited Generation.  Mack to Moby, I really like Move,
>The End of Everything's B-sides, expecially Into the Blue's ones, and Next is
>the E.  However, I have been waiting for another really good Techno album from
>him for quite a while

i'd very much like to hear some stuff from moby like "the blue light of the
underwater sun".  it is a track that is rarely brought up here, but is one of
my top 5 moby tracks ever.  it's the perfect blend of everything i see in him.
it's got an ambient intro, techno beat and synths, and guitar!  a great song.

oh, and the prodigy actually were one of the first jungle acts EVER back in '91.
their roots are most definitely in jungle whether they admit that today or not.

hasta,
ryu

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 My name is Ryu.  I make hard emotional
 electronic music.  To hear some, get cds,
   and see stuff, go to my homepage at:
http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 Ryu  |  [e-mail]  |  814-867-0756
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (mobility) moby spotted on compilation
Date: 28 Feb 1998 16:42:56 -0600 (CST)

i'm not sure if this is in the discography or not, but i saw this at
a store yesterday -

maximum electronica vol.1
   US CD elektra 62159-2
        moby: feeling so real
        voodoo child: dog heaven (lopez mix)

i forgot to look for a date on it, but i'm guessing 1997, as i think
1996 would be too early for the dog heaven remix.

seeyuz...



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From: "G. Walker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby spotted on compilation
Date: 28 Feb 1998 19:07:35 +0500

The Maximum Electronica cd is from 1997.  The Moby stuff is good--i like
the start of Feeling so Real better here than on EiW--and the lopez mix
is good too.
Thats as far as I got on the cd.  The Bjork song is Hyperballad from
right off of Post, not a re-mix or anything.  Personally I think the cd
is a waste of money.  Aphex Twin & the black dog are on there, but the
first half of the cd--before Moby's stuff--didn't do a thing for me and
I wished I'd bought the first Sleater-Kinney cd instead!
--ginger




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From: "john-->" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) Voodoo Child
Date: 28 Feb 1998 18:18:48 PST

> i'd very much like to hear some stuff from moby like "the blue light =
of the
> underwater sun".  it is a track that is rarely brought up here, but is =
one of
> my top 5 moby tracks ever.  it's the perfect blend of everything i see =
in him.
> it's got an ambient intro, techno beat and synths, and guitar!  a great=
 song.
>
hey there-
     i just wanted to add  my two cents to this-  i stumbled across that cd =
the other day in a local record store and picked it up. ( i knew the cd =
was out there but had never seen it annywhere before then)  needless to =
say i love that track and totaly agree with your comments on it-  it blen=
ds all sorts of genres together with perfect precision and harmony.  it =
blends the soothing, peacefull ambient sound with the faster, more driven=
 techno beats, as well as incorporates that emotional guitar moby is know=
n for.  it also has that strong environmental meaning behind it which rea=
lly drew me into it.  i enjoy the tune alot!- it's excellent-

that's my two cents--later-

                        john--:)





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From: Daniel Cerman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (mobility) moby spotted on compilation
Date: 28 Feb 1998 22:11:57 -0700

[e-mail] wrote:
> i'm not sure if this is in the discography or not, but i saw this at
> a store yesterday -
>
> maximum electronica vol.1

Yes, it's in the discography.  Thanks anyway.

>         moby: feeling so real
>         voodoo child: dog heaven (lopez mix)
>
> i forgot to look for a date on it, but i'm guessing 1997, as i think
> 1996 would be too early for the dog heaven remix.

Actually, "Dog Heaven (Lopez Mix)" came out at the end of July 1996
on the Trophy5 single.  Amazing how time flies...  This compilation
was released November 11, 1997.  If anybody has it, I'm looking for
confirmed track times...

BTW, I just listened to the US version of _The End Of Everything_,
which is Moby's favorite album that he made, and I like it more
than ever.  It's wonderful.

Daniel Cerman
http://www.moby.org/



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From: "john-->" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (mobility) thanks-->
Date: 28 Feb 1998 19:51:23 PST

hey there-
    what's up?- i also got 'thanks' today in the mail after waiting for almo=
st a month- and let me tell you- the cd was well worth the wait- as state=
d earlier every track rocks- i can't stop dancin.  i've listened to the =
thing three times in a row and am still going-contributers to this cd did=
 an excellent job- love the 'move' remix as well as the gingerbread mix =
of 'everytime you touch me'- i also really dig the 'god moving over the =
face of the water' mix (especially the piano bit at the end-!!) and the =
beginning of the 'choose your jesus tc mix'-  the cd is supurb-
                            john--:)