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From: eric weiss <eric_w@geocities.com> Subject: (mobility) guns n roses Date: 01 Apr 1997 08:59:15 -0800 okay what the hell is the deal? I was listening to the howard stern show like i do every morning and duff (of guns n roses) called in to say that him and slash were working on the final mix of the album... no mention of moby or loops and samples... im confused... i thought that moby was helping them record the album... but the album is already recorded (in 2 days? i think not!)... oh well -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip "If you were god what would upset you more, bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vince Varkey <varkey@utdallas.edu> Subject: (mobility) question Date: 01 Apr 1997 11:11:50 -0600 (CST) Hey what's up. I had a couple of questions that I should know the answers to but.. What exactly is a loop? And when was Oil 1 recorded? Thanks. -vince varkey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samu Heinonen <samuhei@dlc.fi> Subject: Re: (mobility) guns n roses Date: 01 Apr 1997 21:13:04 -0800 (PST) At 08.59 1.4.1997 -0800, you wrote: >okay what the hell is the deal? I was listening to the howard stern show >like i do every morning and duff (of guns n roses) called in to say that >him and slash were working on the final mix of the album... no mention >of moby or loops and samples... im confused... i thought that moby was >helping them record the album... but the album is already recorded (in 2 >days? i think not!)... oh well >-- > i was wondering that, because i read today on Finnish magazine called "soundi" that Moby is going to produce their new album .. it said that Moby is going also play some instruments in some songs.. i dont know is that right.. maybe guns'n roses changed their mind and Moby didn't produce their new album =( that would be sad.. +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ | Samu | | Heinonen | | e-mail:samuhei@dlc.fi | | Finland | | http://www.dlc.fi/~samuhei | +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vidor <vidor@dfw.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) guns n roses Date: 01 Apr 1997 14:00:03 -0600 (CST) > okay what the hell is the deal? I was listening to the howard stern show > like i do every morning and duff (of guns n roses) called in to say that > him and slash were working on the final mix of the album... no mention > of moby or loops and samples... im confused... i thought that moby was > helping them record the album... but the album is already recorded (in 2 > days? i think not!)... oh well That was a "best of Stern". That show is three or four years old. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ".xAQ_" <zbentz@d.umn.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) question Date: 01 Apr 1997 13:52:59 -0600 (CST) On Tue, 1 Apr 1997, Vince Varkey wrote: > What exactly is a loop? well, it can be a few things, but usually it's a drum line played over and over again on some kind of keyboard/sampler. it can also be any kind of sample played over and over. can anyone add to this? i'm not very good at explaining things... > And when was Oil 1 recorded? i dunno, but i DO know that it's a bit old, as in not NEW. -xaq- the shack of xaq-103.3fm KUMD-tuesdays 10pm-trance/happy hardcore/dance "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." "are ya done squeezing me yet?" <-ranma 1/2-> <-moby-> "women love all that rubber." <-some guy on red green-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ".xAQ_" <zbentz@d.umn.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) question Date: 01 Apr 1997 13:52:59 -0600 (CST) On Tue, 1 Apr 1997, Vince Varkey wrote: > What exactly is a loop? well, it can be a few things, but usually it's a drum line played over and over again on some kind of keyboard/sampler. it can also be any kind of sample played over and over. can anyone add to this? i'm not very good at explaining things... > And when was Oil 1 recorded? i dunno, but i DO know that it's a bit old, as in not NEW. -xaq- the shack of xaq-103.3fm KUMD-tuesdays 10pm-trance/happy hardcore/dance "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." "are ya done squeezing me yet?" <-ranma 1/2-> <-moby-> "women love all that rubber." <-some guy on red green-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVIESA@uwplatt.edu Date: 01 Apr 1997 14:44:31 -0600 (CST) > What exactly is a loop? a loop can be any part of the song, be it a voice sample, a drumm pattern, or a chord sequence. of course it could be many other things as well. this part is played over and over, hence the term "loop". hope this helps... andy "if you can avoid causing suffering, you should." ---moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bluegirl <mlverma@odin.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) question Date: 01 Apr 1997 14:59:32 -0600 (CST) >well, it can be a few things, but usually it's a drum line played over >and over again on some kind of keyboard/sampler. >it can also be any kind of sample played over and over. >can anyone add to this? i'm not very good at explaining things... that is a pretty good description, sometimes explaining something quickly is the best way to explain something to someone. oh...! the loop was basically invented by the one & only William S. Burroughs... thats all i really have to add. *----*bluegirl*--------------------* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anuranman <ryu97@twd.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) can somebody tell me... Date: 01 Apr 1997 19:08:40 -0500 (EST) At 02:11 PM 3/31/97 -0600, you wrote: >i also have been getting ALOT of copies of messages. i got the subliminal go >message 5 times today....hmmm....xaq? any insight? i posted the subliminal go message, but i think hypecadet replied to it and that is the one that you are getting. like xaq said, he has a bunch of "to:"'s for some reason. love, ryu 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 "Noise is the Key, life is full of noise, only death is quiet." "Personally, I don't take any drugs and have never tried any and therefore perhaps have an odd opinion about them; a man must destroy himself before he is destroyed by the system!" -Alec Empire- 77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777 Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anuranman <ryu97@twd.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) guns n roses Date: 01 Apr 1997 19:08:49 -0500 (EST) >it said that Moby >is going also play some instruments in some songs.. i dont know is that >right.. maybe guns'n roses changed their mind and Moby didn't produce their >new album =( that would be sad.. i think that it would be great if moby turned down this offer. it would be bad for moby, but it would be good for GnR. i HATE when bands have somebody from outside their band produce their album. GnR otta do it themselves. i have nothing wrong with them wanting to move into a more techno/industrial sound, but let their own voice carry it, not moby's. love, ryu 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 "Noise is the Key, life is full of noise, only death is quiet." "Personally, I don't take any drugs and have never tried any and therefore perhaps have an odd opinion about them; a man must destroy himself before he is destroyed by the system!" -Alec Empire- 77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777 Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anuranman <ryu97@twd.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) greetings Date: 01 Apr 1997 19:08:48 -0500 (EST) >...ok-some moby content...I just picked up the Into The Blue (remixes) >cd-the red cover one. It might just be the best Moby single I've got; give >it a listen sometime... this is DEFINITELY my favorite moby single of all time...unless disk 2 of the come on baby ltd counts. i love the spiritual and the simple mixes! gorgeous uplifting hard techno! the other into the blue has an "into the blues" mix that is really great too. moby just keeps the lyrics of the song, and re-records the backing music with all live blues guitar instruments! love, ryu 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 "Noise is the Key, life is full of noise, only death is quiet." "Personally, I don't take any drugs and have never tried any and therefore perhaps have an odd opinion about them; a man must destroy himself before he is destroyed by the system!" -Alec Empire- 77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777 Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Ruh <beruh@expert.cc.purdue.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) greetings Date: 01 Apr 1997 20:20:37 -0500 (EST) > i love the spiritual and the simple mixes! gorgeous uplifting hard techno! > the other into the blue has an "into the blues" mix that is really great too. > moby just keeps the lyrics of the song, and re-records the backing music with > all live blues guitar instruments! > > love, > ryu > Wasn't that "Into the Blues" remix done by Jon Spencer (of the Blues Explosion)? Peace, Brian -- "We all need to be resources / Rather than recepticles" - Citizen Fish "The subculture is the main line and what we see around us is the anomaly." - Gary Snyder ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For all your needs since 1977: http://expert.cc.purdue.edu/~beruh ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric M. Goldberg" <gold@bridge.net> Subject: (mobility) Re: That Loop stuff Date: 01 Apr 1997 22:36:29 -0600 At 02:44 PM 4/1/97 -0600, you wrote: >> What exactly is a loop? >a loop can be any part of the song, be it a voice sample, a drumm pattern, or a >chord sequence. of course it could be many other things as well. this part is >played over and over, hence the term "loop". hope this helps... >andy Well usually though a loop is a sample and not something someone is actually playing live... hence most of the techno rhythms (imho) are all drum loops.. of course the band or who ever may have played it live but the drum pattern is still looped. but a chord sequence i wouldnt call a loop, at least what everyone else calls a loop.. anyways to stop babbling a loop most of the time is a sample that is repeated.. blah.. Anyways i hope this doesnt spur a huge loop debate cuz then if u want we can make a loop list! Sarcastically Eric - Eric M. Goldberg gold@bridge.net Music Box Homepage http://www.bridge.net/~gold/mb/mb.htm "There are only two kinds of music. Good and the other kind." Duke Ellington - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anuranman <ryu97@twd.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) greetings Date: 02 Apr 1997 00:09:45 -0500 (EST) >Wasn't that "Into the Blues" remix done by Jon Spencer (of the Blues >Explosion)? i don't think so. on the cd single, it lists who did what mixes. 1 was by the beatmasters. 2 and 3 were by junior vasquez. 4 was by jon spencer (it's the "summer night mix"). but track 5 (the "into the blues mix") is not mentioned, so i'd assume that moby remixed that one himself. love, ryu 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 "Noise is the Key, life is full of noise, only death is quiet." "Personally, I don't take any drugs and have never tried any and therefore perhaps have an odd opinion about them; a man must destroy himself before he is destroyed by the system!" -Alec Empire- 77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777 Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric_w@geocities.com Date: 01 Apr 1997 21:22:06 -0800 (PST) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samu Heinonen <samuhei@dlc.fi> Subject: Re: (mobility) greetings Date: 02 Apr 1997 09:13:04 +0300 (EDT) At 00.09 2.4.1997 -0500, you wrote: >>Wasn't that "Into the Blues" remix done by Jon Spencer (of the Blues >>Explosion)? > >i don't think so. on the cd single, it lists who did what mixes. >1 was by the beatmasters. 2 and 3 were by junior vasquez. >4 was by jon spencer (it's the "summer night mix"). >but track 5 (the "into the blues mix") >is not mentioned, so i'd assume that moby remixed that one himself. > >love, >ryu > > > i have that cdmute179 track 4 of it Into The Blues mix is by Jon Spencer .. +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ | Samu | | Heinonen | | e-mail:samuhei@dlc.fi | | Finland | | http://www.dlc.fi/~samuhei | +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss <eric_w@geocities.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: That Loop stuff Date: 01 Apr 1997 20:21:11 -0800 to add fire to the loop debate... i believe its called a loop because (at least this is what i read in the Sonic Youth biography i read) it was originally a machine with a short amount of magnetic tape (like whats inside an audio tape) that was a complete circle. you would record something onto the magnetic tape once and then the machine would just run the tape over and over and over (like one of the 70's 8 tracks). the term loop came from the fact that it was a loop made of tape... am i wrong here? -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip "If you were god what would upset you more, bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss <eric_w@geocities.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) question Date: 01 Apr 1997 15:05:46 -0800 > the loop was > basically invented by the one & only William S. Burroughs woah.. i am a huge fan of Mr. Burroughs and I had no idea about this.. now I know this isnt a Burroughs mailing list so could you (bluegirl) e-mail me privately (eric_w@geocities.com) and give me more info? please? -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip "If you were god what would upset you more, bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss <eric_w@geocities.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) guns n roses Date: 01 Apr 1997 14:48:36 -0800 Vidor wrote: > > okay what the hell is the deal? I was listening to the howard stern show > > like i do every morning and duff (of guns n roses) called in to say that > > him and slash were working on the final mix of the album... no mention > > of moby or loops and samples... im confused... i thought that moby was > > helping them record the album... but the album is already recorded (in 2 > > days? i think not!)... oh well > That was a "best of Stern". That show is three or four years old. I relized that on my way to school as I heard about new years... I apologize if i messed with anyones mind.. then again.. i could just say "April Fools Day" -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip "If you were god what would upset you more, bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anuranman <ryu97@twd.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) greetings Date: 02 Apr 1997 08:32:22 -0500 (EST) >>>Wasn't that "Into the Blues" remix done by Jon Spencer (of the Blues >>>Explosion)? >> >>i don't think so. on the cd single, it lists who did what mixes. >>1 was by the beatmasters. 2 and 3 were by junior vasquez. >>4 was by jon spencer (it's the "summer night mix"). >>but track 5 (the "into the blues mix") >>is not mentioned, so i'd assume that moby remixed that one himself. >> >i have that cdmute179 track 4 of it Into The Blues mix is by Jon Spencer .. i have CDMUTE179A, and track 4 is the "summer night mix" by jon spencer. track 5 is "into the blues" and doesn not give credit to a remixer. but i checked daniel's discography, and it gives credit to track 5 of my disk to john spencer, so i guess it was just a typo that was left out during printing. am i to guess that moby did the "summer night" mix then? love, ryu 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 "Noise is the Key, life is full of noise, only death is quiet." "Personally, I don't take any drugs and have never tried any and therefore perhaps have an odd opinion about them; a man must destroy himself before he is destroyed by the system!" -Alec Empire- 77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777 Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" <hypcadet@spectranet.ca> Subject: Re: (mobility) can somebody tell me... Date: 02 Apr 1997 08:46:50 -0800 > i got about 12msgs from Hypecadet in about 5minutes or less... & most of > them were repeats. whats the point of that. oh well, maybe he just > goofed I'm not sure what happened-I checked my mail today and found 4 or 5 repeats of my posts from a couple of days back. I apologise guys.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" <hypcadet@spectranet.ca> Subject: Re: (mobility) into the blue Date: 02 Apr 1997 08:56:19 -0800 > this is DEFINITELY my favorite moby single of all time...unless disk 2 of > the come on baby ltd counts. I've got the one with the Crystal Method mix, Go (live) etc.-is that disk 1 or 2? > i love the spiritual and the simple mixes! gorgeous uplifting hard techno! > the other into the blue has an "into the blues" mix that is really great too. > moby just keeps the lyrics of the song, and re-records the backing music with > all live blues guitar instruments! Actually, I think that was done by Jon Spencer (of the Blues Explosion)-an outstanding mix as well... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: That Loop stuff Date: 02 Apr 1997 10:51:37 -0500 (EST) a loop can also be found on an Iowa cd, cassette, and radio stereo system as on of the accessories of it.....my friend has one and i find it real fun to keep on pressing it and repeating the same part of the song. L.E. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: spacecat@spideyweb.net (Rick Ackerson) Subject: (mobility) AOL chat with Moby tonight Date: 02 Apr 1997 01:58:17 PST I heard on Q101 today that Moby will be chatting on AOL tonight (Wednesda= y night) at keyword rso. Speaking of Moby chats, sonicnet.com finally has an edited transcript of = their latest Moby chat. Aaron Ackerson Aaron Ackerson Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/southbeach/marina/6593/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: matthew james smith <mjsmith@students.uiuc.edu> Subject: (mobility) Underworld Date: 02 Apr 1997 15:10:42 -0600 (CST) Does anyone know the song by Underworld which is being played during primetime on Q101....for chicagolanders...mjs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: babylemonade67@juno.com (J J j) Subject: (mobility) All the info on Moby's AOL Chat Date: 02 Apr 1997 16:50:06 EST Moby Live Online Chat Wednesday, April 2 @ 9pm (EST) --- Moby Born, Richard Melville Hall, the great-great-grand-nephew of "Moby Dick" author Herman Melville, Moby has made a name for himself in recent years with the computer-generated dance pop wizardry evident on the critically-acclaimed "Everything is Wrong" to the recently-released "Animal Rights," where the diminutive performer/producer/re-mixer takes aim at choleric thrash ambient synch. The first single from "Animal Rights," a cover of Mission of Burma's "That's When I Reach For My Revolver," has received modest radio airplay across the nation and rotation on MTV and M2. Recently, Moby has dropped hints that he may be the chosen one to produce the eagerly-awaited next Guns N' Roses album. Already, Moby has produced and re-mixed songs for performers ranging from the Smashing Pumpkins and Aerosmith to Ozzy Osbourne and Metallica. Log on to Rolling Stone Online (keyword: RSO) Wednesday, April 2, 9:00 p.m. (EST) for a fun-filled 45 minutes and find out what vegan meal is next on Moby's plate. --- James C. BABY LEMONADE: http://members.aol.com/DALI67/babylemonade.html PETA: http://www.envirolink.org/arrs/PETA/ Love all sentient creatures, whether they be animal or man, and always be truthful to yourself and others. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: (mobility) AOL chat with Moby tonight Date: 02 Apr 1997 15:25:50 -0500 MO>I heard on Q101 today that Moby will be chatting on AOL tonight (Wednesday night) at keyword rso. MO>Aaron Ackerson If anyone can get a full transcript of this for me/the list..Please..I'd be more than thankfull(seeing how I have to work tonight). Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brad Caviness" <bigwig@agora.ualr.edu> Subject: (mobility) Who's going to the Moby Chat tonight? Date: 02 Apr 1997 16:59:45 -0600 I don't have AOL, so I'll be sitting at home tonight, not participating. But if one of you are participating, who'd be interested in asking him a question for me? Could someone ask him where the choral sample from "Hymn (This is My Dream)" comes from. It's so expressive and moving I'd love to hear the whole work. Brad S. Caviness, Contributing On-Line Editor, 7Ball Magazine (http://www.7ball.com) bigwig@agora.ualr.edu "I've often wondered how someone could put a critique of music into words. And I've also wondered why there was no musical commentary on words." - Dr. Peter Kreeft, author "There seems, by the way, to be nothing pending in the Christian Coalition`s political wish list about sheltering the homeless, feeding the hungry, or clothing the naked, unless, of course, the naked got that way for fun." - Tom Teepen, Cox News Service ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) AOL chat with Moby tonight Date: 02 Apr 1997 19:11:34 -0500 (EST) moby will be on Rolling Stone Online at 9 o'clock (EST) for 45 minutes...cannot wait!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric M. Goldberg" <gold@bridge.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: That Loop stuff Date: 02 Apr 1997 19:41:06 -0600 >term loop came from the fact that it was a loop made of tape... am i >wrong here? >Eric Weiss >Epicentre Productions No that actually sounds very correct, but nowadays loops are not just on looped tapes.. theyre done digitally.. anyways enough of that topic, and now back to your regularly scheduled moby Eric - Eric M. Goldberg gold@bridge.net Music Box Homepage http://www.bridge.net/~gold/mb/mb.htm "There are only two kinds of music. Good and the other kind." Duke Ellington - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheezit <cheezit@gorilla.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) can somebody tell me... Date: 02 Apr 1997 07:26:42 -0800 bluegirl wrote: > > i would like to know why hypecadet sends all of his msges numerous > times?? > going through my inbox & deleting them is kind of a pain... > > ----*bluegirl*--- i've seen this message from you, bluegirl, about three times, so it is not only hypercadet's problem...although he does seem to have the most numerous repeats...hmmm l8r, cheezit people tell me what to say, what to think, and what to play ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheezit <cheezit@gorilla.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) Another Review and a few thoughts o Date: 02 Apr 1997 07:34:04 -0800 Brad S. Caviness > > With deadlines and all..I can understand..but I just don't see how I > could review an album after just one week(especially the ones that > don't catch me right from the start(MBM's STS and Moby's Ambient, for > example) hmmm..ambient was pretty much instantly appealing to me, but what wasn't was the cure's latest(i know...damn "rock" music- i'm not "pure," i guess)..i absolutely hated it at first, and now it might be my favorite, besides wish... >...then there are the albums that I loved in the start..then as > I caught on..considered them "crap"(for lack of a better word)...2 > Unlimted is an example here ooh...disgusting...top forty dance music....revolting! :) >..but damn it..I won't sell the cd's..who > knows what things will become collector items! But I haven't played > the albums since about summer of '93 or so :) well, you probably couldn't get much for them as used cd's either, so you might want to hold on to them so your kids can make fun of you(i do the same with my own mom's linda rondstat and other true "crap"). hehehe... l8r, cheezit wide awake and keeping distance. nothing seems to penetrate her. she's scared as hell. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheezit <cheezit@gorilla.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) telnet Date: 02 Apr 1997 07:39:37 -0800 keri schaeffer wrote: > > i need some info on how to use telnet in case there's another moby > online chat.i've found something about telnet,but i might be opening a > can o' worms. keri it has nothing to do with telnet...i think irc is what you are talking about...telnet is a connection to another server(bbs or internet service privider) over the internet, and i'm sure not what you would need to chat on a public channel, but i could be wrong... l8r, cheezit choices always were a problem for you, what you need is someone strong to guide you ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric M. Goldberg" <gold@bridge.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) can somebody tell me... Date: 02 Apr 1997 21:37:35 -0600 >i've seen this message from you, bluegirl, about three times, so it is >not only hypercadet's problem...although he does seem to have the most >numerous repeats...hmmm How bout this, lets all be one happy family and stop talking about this crap, and get back to moby... If there is a problem with you receiving repeated messages then email the list owner instead of making a debate over it... Sarcastically Eric - Eric M. Goldberg gold@bridge.net Music Box Homepage http://www.bridge.net/~gold/mb/mb.htm "There are only two kinds of music. Good and the other kind." Duke Ellington - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheezit <cheezit@gorilla.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) can somebody tell me... Date: 02 Apr 1997 08:55:27 -0800 Eric M. Goldberg wrote: > > >i've seen this message from you, bluegirl, about three times, so it is > >not only hypercadet's problem...although he does seem to have the most > >numerous repeats...hmmm > > How bout this, lets all be one happy family and stop talking about this > crap, and get back to moby... okay...my two cents will never be again heard on this list....i will remain quiet seeing that as soon as i open my mouth i sound like i am trying to start an argument. > If there is a problem with you receiving repeated messages then email the > list owner instead of making a debate over it... its no debat. > Sarcastically i bet. l8r, cheezit i am wide open, reaching forever ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com> Subject: (mobility) pressing Date: 02 Apr 1997 22:00:04 -0500 ok gang..shameless self promotion time...since the vast majority of you are elektromuzik fans i figgered id go ahaead and advertise this..im releasing a single via a compilation album in october called "pressing." this will appear on blacklight records' "escapign the furnace, vol. 2" album. should be available everywhere, if not in just Xian bookstores. if youre a fan of old skool industrial, check this out. its a big departure from my normal fare, but what else can one do but experiment. :) ill bother everyone again when october rolls around. and uh...go Moby. :) Sinjin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric M. Goldberg" <gold@bridge.net> Subject: (mobility) ok lets understand Date: 02 Apr 1997 22:28:02 -0600 My last message about this.. sorry.. ok i never was singling anyone out, i just said could we all just stop emailing about a few repeated messages.. thats all.. its gets kind of stupid when everyone starts replying to a message saying "yeah me too".. You'll find when youre on a mailing list that not everyone's isp is great and therefore sometimes repeated messages are sent. Once again im sorry if anyone was hurt,upset, etc... Its just stupid to keep talking about it, of course look at me im still talking about it, so dont listen to me.. Anyways, apologies from Eric - Eric M. Goldberg gold@bridge.net Music Box Homepage http://www.bridge.net/~gold/mb/mb.htm "There are only two kinds of music. Good and the other kind." Duke Ellington - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric M. Goldberg" <gold@bridge.net> Subject: (mobility) Double Tap Date: 02 Apr 1997 22:30:09 -0600 Hey has anyone heard anything more about the movie Moby is supposed to be scoring?? I saw on one Entertainment Tonight that its some mystery movie or something and it has Heather Locklear... They didnt say anything though about music, of course who would on that show.. But gee they did show Heather repeatedly doing her own stunts... :) Eric - Eric M. Goldberg gold@bridge.net Music Box Homepage http://www.bridge.net/~gold/mb/mb.htm "There are only two kinds of music. Good and the other kind." Duke Ellington - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: spacecat@spideyweb.net (Rick Ackerson) Subject: Re: (mobility) Underworld Date: 02 Apr 1997 09:49:06 PST >Does anyone know the song by Underworld which is being played >during >primetime on Q101....for chicagolanders...mjs It's called Born Slippy. Aaron Ackerson Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/southbeach/marina/6593/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anuranman <ryu97@twd.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) into the blue Date: 02 Apr 1997 23:31:01 -0500 (EST) At 08:56 AM 4/2/97 -0800, you wrote: >> this is DEFINITELY my favorite moby single of all time...unless disk 2 of >> the come on baby ltd counts. > >I've got the one with the Crystal Method mix, Go (live) etc.-is that disk 1 >or 2? the crystal method mix is on disk 1. all the live stuff and love hole and whip it are on disk two. love, ryu 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 "Noise is the Key, life is full of noise, only death is quiet." "Personally, I don't take any drugs and have never tried any and therefore perhaps have an odd opinion about them; a man must destroy himself before he is destroyed by the system!" -Alec Empire- 77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777 Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vince Varkey <varkey@utdallas.edu> Subject: (mobility) the AOL Moby chat Date: 02 Apr 1997 22:55:43 -0600 (CST) What's up people. Just wanted to share some thoughts on tonight's Moby chat. First off, for whatever reason, he was about 10 minutes late. However, Moby was cool enough to extend his stay so it turned out to be the promised 45 minutes. As all chats like these go, there were more lame questions than good ones. However, there were some pretty interesting ones, I thought. I actually had about 3 or 4 questions of mine answered. As I type this, the transcript wasn't ready but I will give you the highlights. He basically confirmed that he will be producing the next Guns N' Roses record. He said that he would be coming back to his techno roots sooner than we though. I wish I could remember more, but my mind is failing. By tomorrow, I or someone else on here will post the full transcript, I am sure. Anyway, I hope that this gives you all somewhat of an idea of how it went..I will comment more about this in detail tomorrow. -vince ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: babylemonade67@juno.com (J J j) Subject: (mobility) Full Transcipt of Moby's AOL Chat Date: 03 Apr 1997 00:04:10 EST Go to my page (listed under my name) for the full AOL Chat that Moby had on Wed. night. I am posting this tonite but give me until tommorrow before you start e-mailing me and telling me that it isn't on there. I will put it on the front page somewhere. You can either download it or read it off the page. Let me know what you think of my page while you are at it (sorry has to promote myself! =) James C. BABY LEMONADE: http://members.aol.com/DALI67/babylemonade.html PETA: http://www.envirolink.org/arrs/PETA/ Love all sentient creatures, whether they be animal or man, and always be truthful to yourself and others. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman <keen@webaccess.net> Subject: (mobility) Into The Blue Date: 02 Apr 1997 22:10:41 -0700 [was Re: (mobility) greetings] Anuranman wrote: > i have CDMUTE179A, and track 4 is the "summer night mix" by jon spencer. > track 5 is "into the blues" and doesn not give credit to a remixer. > but i checked daniel's discography, and it gives credit to track 5 of my disk > to john spencer, so i guess it was just a typo that was left out during > printing. am i to guess that moby did the "summer night" mix then? That was a misprint. Apparently, they forgot to change it to track 5 when they redid CDMUTE179 as CDMUTE179A. The "Into The Blues" mix is the one by Jon Spencer. The "Summer Night Mix" is by Moby. Daniel Cerman http://www.hyperreal.com/music/artists/moby/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVIESA@uwplatt.edu Subject: (mobility) aol chat Date: 03 Apr 1997 01:42:18 -0600 (CST) just a quick question about the chat to dan. are you getting the trtanscript on your page as well? i stupidly deleted the message with the address on it, and i have your page bookmarked. let us know... andy "run, run, as fast as you can, you can't catch me, i'm the gingerbread man!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel E Cerman <dcerman@evans.CUDenver.EDU> Subject: Re: (mobility) aol chat Date: 03 Apr 1997 12:12:42 -0700 (MST) On Thu, 3 Apr 1997 DAVIESA@uwplatt.edu wrote: > just a quick question about the chat to dan. are you getting the trtanscript > on your page as well? i stupidly deleted the message with the address on it, > and i have your page bookmarked. let us know... I have put in a link on my News page. I'd like to do more, but I'm at work right now... Daniel Cerman http://www.hyperreal.com/music/artists/moby/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" <hypcadet@spectranet.ca> Subject: Re: (mobility) into the blue Date: 03 Apr 1997 18:55:34 -0800 > the crystal method mix is on disk 1. > all the live stuff and love hole and whip it are on disk two. Could it be that your copies are split in two? My track listing is: Come On Baby Come On Baby Eskimos & Egypt 7" Mix Come On Baby Crystal Method Mix Whip It Death Metal Version Go Live At The Splash Club All That I Need Is To Be Loved Live At The Splash Club The disc is black w/ orange text (XCDMute200) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Another Review and a few thoughts o Date: 03 Apr 1997 17:32:44 -0500 MO>hmmm..ambient was pretty much instantly appealing to me, but what wasn't Well for me "Ambient" was my first excursion into ambient music..so it was very different for me..all I was used to was the beatier techno music of Moby and other artists...but as soon as I found more ambient albums(AFX's SAW2 for example)..I realized how amazing "Ambient" was :) MO>ooh...disgusting...top forty dance music....revolting! :) I know..I'm still amazed that early on I loved em..then again..I was clueless too :) MO>well, you probably couldn't get much for them as used cd's either, so MO>you might want to hold on to them so your kids can make fun of you(i do MO>the same with my own mom's linda rondstat and other true "crap"). MO>hehehe... MO>l8r, MO>cheezit Actually..I'm kinda glad groups like The Spice Girls and 2 Unlimited exist....it keeps the teenyboppers busy...that way I don't have to fight a lot of ppl for the Moby imports ;> Ryan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vince Varkey <varkey@utdallas.edu> Subject: (mobility) Revolver singles question Date: 03 Apr 1997 18:43:36 -0600 (CST) What's up. I am looking for the Revolver singles here in the US and I am having no luck. Are they out yet? I am looking for the version with the song from Heat on it. Does anyone know if CDNow or any other online store has this version for sale? Thanks. -vince <-- who had 4 questions answered by moby : ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brad Caviness" <bigwig@agora.ualr.edu> Subject: (mobility) Regarding the AOL Chat Date: 03 Apr 1997 18:56:02 -0600 Whoever asked my question about the "Hymn" Sample at the Moby chat last night, Thank you very much. I only wish his answer had been a little more revealing. I did think it was interesting that he's a big fan of Christian punk rockers MxPx and Tooth & Nail Records. His first public flirtation with American cultural Christianity. Brad S. Caviness, Contributing On-Line Editor, 7Ball Magazine (http://www.7ball.com) bigwig@agora.ualr.edu "I've often wondered how someone could put a critique of music into words. And I've also wondered why there was no musical commentary on words." - Dr. Peter Kreeft, author "There seems, by the way, to be nothing pending in the Christian Coalition`s political wish list about sheltering the homeless, feeding the hungry, or clothing the naked, unless, of course, the naked got that way for fun." - Tom Teepen, Cox News Service ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Himes <mrh160@psu.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) into the blue Date: 03 Apr 1997 19:58:54 -0500 At 06:55 PM 4/3/97 -0800, you wrote: >> the crystal method mix is on disk 1. >> all the live stuff and love hole and whip it are on disk two. > >Could it be that your copies are split in two? > >My track listing is: >The disc is black w/ orange text (XCDMute200) > There were (at least) two Come on Baby single releases. One is the one which you have described, which is the uk regular release, and then there was a limited edition two cd version that was limited to only 10,000(?) or so copies worldwide. I think that explains it, doesn't it? Later, Matt Himes aka: _______________ ___________ __________ ___ ___ /_____ _____/| / _____ /| / _______/| / /| / /| |____/ /|_____|/ / /|___/ / / / /|______|/ / /_/__/ / / / / / / /_/__/ / / / /_/____ /_______ / / / / / / __ ___/ / / _______/| |______/ / / / / / / / |\ \__|/ / /|______|/ / / / / / / / / / \\ \ / /_/_____ _____/ / / /__/ / /__/ / \\__\ /__________/| /_______/ / |__|/ |__|/ |__| |__________|/ |_______|/ mrh160@psu.edu trey@psu.edu Trey's Mechwarrior Niche-> http://www.ecsel.psu.edu/~mhimes/ Trey's Other Mechwarrior Niche-> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/3527 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anuranman <ryu97@twd.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) into the blue Date: 03 Apr 1997 20:11:01 -0500 (EST) >Could it be that your copies are split in two? that's pretty much how it is. here is the track listing for the come on baby 2cd: cdmute 200 uk disk 1 come on baby love hole whip it (death metal) go (live) atinitbl (live) hymn (live) disk 2 come on baby (eskimos and egypt 7") cme on baby (crystal method) come on baby (eskimos and egypt 12") love, ryu 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 "Noise is the Key, life is full of noise, only death is quiet." "Personally, I don't take any drugs and have never tried any and therefore perhaps have an odd opinion about them; a man must destroy himself before he is destroyed by the system!" -Alec Empire- 77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777 Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ".xAQ_" <zbentz@d.umn.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) Regarding the AOL Chat Date: 03 Apr 1997 20:52:14 -0600 (CST) On Thu, 3 Apr 1997, Brad Caviness wrote: > Whoever asked my question about the "Hymn" Sample at the Moby chat last > night, Thank you very much. I only wish his answer had been a little more > revealing. so what did he say about it? sorry for asking, but i (and i'm sure others on this list) don't have easy access to the web. (where the chat is posted) thanks! -xaq- the shack of xaq-103.3fm KUMD-tuesdays 10pm-trance/happy hardcore/dance "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." "are ya done squeezing me yet?" <-ranma 1/2-> <-moby-> "women love all that rubber." <-some guy on red green-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ".xAQ_" <zbentz@d.umn.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) Regarding the AOL Chat Date: 03 Apr 1997 20:52:14 -0600 (CST) On Thu, 3 Apr 1997, Brad Caviness wrote: > Whoever asked my question about the "Hymn" Sample at the Moby chat last > night, Thank you very much. I only wish his answer had been a little more > revealing. so what did he say about it? sorry for asking, but i (and i'm sure others on this list) don't have easy access to the web. (where the chat is posted) thanks! -xaq- the shack of xaq-103.3fm KUMD-tuesdays 10pm-trance/happy hardcore/dance "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." "are ya done squeezing me yet?" <-ranma 1/2-> <-moby-> "women love all that rubber." <-some guy on red green-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vince Varkey <varkey@utdallas.edu> Subject: (mobility) more Moby/GNR info Date: 04 Apr 1997 00:03:59 -0600 (CST) Here is something that I thought you all might be interesting in seeing. I got this from Rolling Stone online: When Guns n' Roses last took the world by storm, Russia was under a communist regime, O.J. Simpson was earning raves for playing Nordburg in "Naked Gun 2 1/2: The Smell of Fear," and Moby entered the charts for the first time with the single, "Go." Six years later, Moby will help put the Gunners back on the charts and resurrect arguably the biggest band of the late eighties. "It's been a while since [Guns n' Roses] have made a record and they sort of feel like a lot of music's passed them by," says Moby, who will most likely serve as executive producer on the band's new album. "They're really interested in doing something slightly different, more contemporary." G n' R is also a shadow of the band that recorded the smash "Appetite For Destruction" ten years ago. Original members Slash, Izzy Stradlin and Steven Adler are gone, as are Stradlin's and Adler's replacements, Gilby Clarke and Matt Sorum. Axl Rose, Duff McKagan, Clarke replacement, Paul Huge, and former Nine Inch Nails members Robin Finck (lead guitar) and Chris Vrenna (drums) have been holed up in the studio for two years, but only now has this latest incarnation of Guns n' Roses solicited a producer to help record what will eventually be the follow-up to 1991's "Use Your Illusion" albums and 1993's all-covers "The Spaghetti Incident?" A month and half ago, Rose summoned Moby to listen to what the techno star called "tons and tons of ideas but almost no finished songs" and ask the environmentalist if he'd like to produce the album. Apparently smitten with the punk, thrash sound on Moby's latest release, "Animal Rights," Rose is hoping some of it will rub off on his band. So far, Moby seems impressed by the new Guns material, which he calls "melodic and emotional." "It doesn't rock quite as hard [as "Appetite for Destruction"]," says Moby. "Something that I find important is that it does sort of kick ass." Currently in the midst of promoting "Animal Rights," writing the score for the Joel Silver HBO film, "Double Tap" and re-doing the 007 theme for the next James Bond film,Moby doesn't have time to work on G n' R's album for six consecutive months. He'll likely hire an engineer and technician to help run things and "come in once a week or once every two weeks" for hands-on production. Six weeks in, with no formal arrangement, the mild-mannered Moby and Guns n'Roses are still enjoying their honeymoon. "The working environment is great," says Moby. "They're the nicest bunch of people." Copyright ) 1997 by Straight Arrow Publishers Company, L.P. All rights reserved. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vince Varkey <varkey@utdallas.edu> Subject: (mobility) more Moby/GNR info Date: 04 Apr 1997 00:03:59 -0600 (CST) Here is something that I thought you all might be interesting in seeing. I got this from Rolling Stone online: When Guns n' Roses last took the world by storm, Russia was under a communist regime, O.J. Simpson was earning raves for playing Nordburg in "Naked Gun 2 1/2: The Smell of Fear," and Moby entered the charts for the first time with the single, "Go." Six years later, Moby will help put the Gunners back on the charts and resurrect arguably the biggest band of the late eighties. "It's been a while since [Guns n' Roses] have made a record and they sort of feel like a lot of music's passed them by," says Moby, who will most likely serve as executive producer on the band's new album. "They're really interested in doing something slightly different, more contemporary." G n' R is also a shadow of the band that recorded the smash "Appetite For Destruction" ten years ago. Original members Slash, Izzy Stradlin and Steven Adler are gone, as are Stradlin's and Adler's replacements, Gilby Clarke and Matt Sorum. Axl Rose, Duff McKagan, Clarke replacement, Paul Huge, and former Nine Inch Nails members Robin Finck (lead guitar) and Chris Vrenna (drums) have been holed up in the studio for two years, but only now has this latest incarnation of Guns n' Roses solicited a producer to help record what will eventually be the follow-up to 1991's "Use Your Illusion" albums and 1993's all-covers "The Spaghetti Incident?" A month and half ago, Rose summoned Moby to listen to what the techno star called "tons and tons of ideas but almost no finished songs" and ask the environmentalist if he'd like to produce the album. Apparently smitten with the punk, thrash sound on Moby's latest release, "Animal Rights," Rose is hoping some of it will rub off on his band. So far, Moby seems impressed by the new Guns material, which he calls "melodic and emotional." "It doesn't rock quite as hard [as "Appetite for Destruction"]," says Moby. "Something that I find important is that it does sort of kick ass." Currently in the midst of promoting "Animal Rights," writing the score for the Joel Silver HBO film, "Double Tap" and re-doing the 007 theme for the next James Bond film,Moby doesn't have time to work on G n' R's album for six consecutive months. He'll likely hire an engineer and technician to help run things and "come in once a week or once every two weeks" for hands-on production. Six weeks in, with no formal arrangement, the mild-mannered Moby and Guns n'Roses are still enjoying their honeymoon. "The working environment is great," says Moby. "They're the nicest bunch of people." Copyright ) 1997 by Straight Arrow Publishers Company, L.P. All rights reserved. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" <hypcadet@spectranet.ca> Subject: Re: (mobility) into the blue Date: 04 Apr 1997 03:10:45 -0800 > which you have described, which is the uk regular release, and then there > was a limited edition two cd version that was limited to only 10,000(?) or > so copies worldwide. Any more info on that release? I'd like to get a hold of it.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" <hypcadet@spectranet.ca> Subject: Re: (mobility) Revolver singles question Date: 04 Apr 1997 03:06:47 -0800 > What's up. I am looking for the Revolver singles here in the US and I am > having no luck. Are they out yet? I am looking for the version with the > song from Heat on it. Does anyone know if CDNow or any other online store > has this version for sale? A friend in California managed to find a copy of disc 2 (the one with the Heat mix of God Moving Over The Face Of The Water) at Tower (I think). Try ordering it from a local chain-they're usually pretty good; expensive but good.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: (mobility) "Techno" in the news Date: 04 Apr 1997 02:11:42 -0500 This story appears in the April 97 edition of U. The National College Magazine "Electronic Avenue" Electronica: the new alternative to alternative by Tricia Romano(from Univ. of Washington) In 1991, the music charts were crowded with benign R&B acts like Paula Abdul and Mariah Carey and bland pop and country like Wilson Phillips and Garth Brooks. The world of popular music was safe, formulaic and incredibly dull. Not long afterward, a trio named Nirvana released its stellar album, "Nevermind", which rocketed to the number-one position on the "Billboard" charts. Popular music hasn't sounded the same since. Now, five years later, the top of the charts look suspiciously the same as in '91. Bland R&B (Toni Braxton), bloated pop (Kenny G.) and generic country (LeAnn Rimes) acts are perched alongside Pearl Jam wannabes (Bush) and whiny aggrogirl rock (Alanis Morrisette). It's a period when R.E.M. and Pearl Jam turn in critically acclaimed records that flop with the fans. Music, the kids say, is not all right. And everyone from the record industry to the fans is taking a big breath and waiting for the face of popular music to metamorphose once again. Techno revolution They may not know it yet, but they're waiting for techno. Techno (now called electronic) music has been ignored, denounced and ridiculed by American critics and mainstream listeners for the past decade. At the same time, electronica has quietly built a small army of fans who learn of the music mainly through underground dance parties ("raves") and electronica insider magazines like "Urb" and "XLR8R". In the past few months, "Spin", "Rolling Stone", "Newsweek", "The New York Times" and even the "Wall Street Journal" ran stories posing the question: Will electronic music be the next big thing? "Electronic music is just going to explode in the next 18 months," predicts junior Jake Buffington, station manager at Arizona State U.'s KASR radio. Many people in the music industry agree. Marco Collins, DJ and music director at The End 107.7 radio station in Seattle, has been instrumental in getting electronic-based acts on the air. Like any other mainstream radio station, The End has a predetermined format that leaves little or no room for experimentation. But Collins gave it a whirl anyway, spinning bands like Prodigy, Chemical Brothers and Orbital on prime-time radio, unedited. "It's a risk throwing electronic music on," he says. "But it's important for a station that is supposed to be about change - new things and new ideas - that we go there. You know, actually delving into it before it becomes a fad." Euro stash Funny thing. Because in England, techno has been a staple of radio for roughly a decade. Bands such as Prodigy, which is relegated to playing to audiences of less than 1,000 in the Sates, will play to a crowd of 60,000 in the Mother Country. In England, it's not uncommon to find a Chemical Brothers track charting in the Top 10 with the likes of Oasis, Elastica or Echobelly. Nils Bernstein, a represenative at the mother of all grunge labels, Sub Pop, explains the phenomenon quite succinctly: "The youth culture in England and Europe is far more centered around dance clubs that it is here," he says. "Also, England and Europe are relatively tiny markets compared to the U.S. - small enough that a simple fad can have seriously commerical consequences." Andrea Mulrain, a regional represenative for electronica front-runner London Records, agrees. "[England} is the more progressive nation when it comes to dance stuff," she explains. "Our country is grounded in formatted radio. Everything is so compartmentalized." Reborn in the U.S.A. In a country where every little nuance in music needs to be labled and defined, is American music ready for such an extreme change? Collins points out that traces of electronic music's influence have already made a dent on the music scene - albeit in a rock-hybrid form. Trip-hoppers Massive Attack remixed Garbage. The Chemical Brothers remixed the Charlatans UK. Tori Amos got special treatment from Armand Van Helden and Rabbit in the Moon. And Bomb the Bass' Tim Simenon remixed Depeche Mode. Meanwhile, other artists have been stealing stylistic snippets from electronica tracks and incorporating them into a more traditional "verse, chorus, verse" format. "Spin's" Artist of the Year, Beck, has been the most successful at meshing all these styles. Meanwhile, newcomers the Sneaker Pimps (from England, natch) combine Garbage-like layers of manufactured beauty with saccharine-sweet vocals and catchy melodies. Not everyone on the campus music scene is jumping on the electronic bandwagon. "Since we're close to L.A., we're big on ska," says Tony Mayberry, KUNV assistant operations manager at the U. of Nevada, Las Vegas. But he adds that requests for electronic music have surged during the past few months. The problem with promoting electronic music as the "next big thing" is that it could spell an inevitable doom for the art form. Longtime fans of techno are watching and listening with mixed emotions of glee and horror as MTV installs "Amp", a new show devoted entirely to electronica. But Collins remains optimistic. He's obiviously hit a nerve with his listeners. The DJ relishes stories about kids calling the station and requesting Tool, Nirvana, and...Prodigy. Collins says it doesn't matter if the music was created with guitars or with a drum machine. If kids connect with the music, then the music will survive. "I said it before, but the energy of Prodigy [and all electronica bands] is parallel to that of Nirvana." Only time will tell. Along w/ the story came: two pictures: The Prodigy("Prodigal son.") and Orbital("Lost in space."), Guest Expert: Coolio on techno: "I hate techno. You have to be on drugs to get into it. I can't get into it." and Techno Lowdown A techno-phobes's guide to electronic music: House: Originated in Chicago and is noted for its consistent, repetitive beats - about 120 beats per minute (bpm) - and diva-style singing. Ex: Boris Dugosch, Love Tribe Deep Dish Techno: The most common and popular format, it's also the most computer-generated. Very high-energy with different layers of sounds and high bpm. Ex: Hardfloor, Prodigy Trance: Generally more melodic and complex thant your garden-variety techno. So named because the music should guide the audience into a trancelike state. Ex: Underworld, Future Sound of London Ambient: Moure soundscape and setting that a cohesive form of music. It rarely has steady beats and is sometimes mixed with other house or techno. Ex: The Orb, Brian Eno Drum and Bass (a.k.a. Jungle): Comes from London and is characterized by erratic double-layered beats and bass lines, with a second melody floating over the top. Ex: Goldie, Alex Reece Trip Hop: Arrives straight from the Mother Country. Shifty, layered noise with slow hip-hop beats and emphasis on vocals. Ex: Tricky, Portishead Acid Jazz: A mixture of hip-hop beats and jazz-influenced sounds that usually features lots of saxophone and some slick rapping. Ex: Guru, Courtney Pine - TR cc: INT:Zombies@cyborganic.com INT:mobility@mail.xmission.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ".xAQ_" <zbentz@d.umn.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) "Techno" in the news Date: 04 Apr 1997 08:17:12 -0600 (CST) WHY IZZIT THAT THEY *NEVER* MENTION HARDCORE IN THESE DAMN REVIEWS OF TECHNO!!!!! i know it's not very big over here yet, but still... there was a article very much like this one in our local paper, but they too never mentioned the hardcore scene. rolling stone, spin, and details have never mentioned it, even though they always report on techno. GRRRR!!!! -xaq- the shack of xaq-103.3fm KUMD-tuesdays 10pm-trance/happy hardcore/dance "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." "are ya done squeezing me yet?" <-ranma 1/2-> <-moby-> "women love all that rubber." <-some guy on red green-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keri schaeffer <kschaff@foothill.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) Revolver singles question Date: 03 Apr 1997 21:00:10 -0800 Vince Varkey wrote: What's up. I am looking for the Revolver singles here in the US and I am having no luck. Are they out yet? I am looking for the version with the song from Heat on it. Does anyone know if CDNow or any other online store has this version for sale? Thanks. -vince <-- who had 4 questions answered by moby : ) i got it on 12",but my turntable doesn't work @ 331/3.it's pretty fast @ 45.the remixes weren't out at tower on cd,but i did get the cd single. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss <eric_w@geocities.com> Subject: (mobility) From www.thesaint.com Date: 04 Apr 1997 06:42:31 -0800 Also known as Voodoo Child, Moby is a musician notorious for producing wildly diverse styles of music, from his early dance music to his recent guitar rock. Because of this stylistic independence and genre-bending risktaking he is highly respected though controversial. Moby became famous in the early 1990s with a number of worldwide techno hits, and for creating dazzling remixes for other artists such as The Smashing Pumpkins, Metallica and Soundgarden. Lately, his focus has shifted to heavy guitar music. A punk rockin', crowd moving, quasi-Christian vegan animal rights activist, Moby simply defies classification. Moby's long awaited second Elektra album Animal Rights, released to critical acclaim on February 11, has already had a significant impact in Europe. kinda interesting that the Virgin artists (the soundtrack is on Virgin) have their names HUGE but other artists (such as moby) have a tiny little name.. anyway.. thought you all would like to see this... oh yeah.. sound file (aif and wav) available -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip "If you were god what would upset you more, bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anuranman <ryu97@twd.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) Revolver singles question Date: 04 Apr 1997 10:40:15 -0500 (EST) > What's up. I am looking for the Revolver singles here in the US and > I am > having no luck. Are they out yet? I am looking for the version with > the > song from Heat on it. Does anyone know if CDNow or any other online > store > has this version for sale? cdeurope should have both of the uk revolver singles for sale. expect to pay a bit for them and don't get excited because it will take maybe months before they arrive. love, ryu 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 "Noise is the Key, life is full of noise, only death is quiet." "Personally, I don't take any drugs and have never tried any and therefore perhaps have an odd opinion about them; a man must destroy himself before he is destroyed by the system!" -Alec Empire- 77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777 Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anuranman <ryu97@twd.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) Revolver singles question Date: 04 Apr 1997 10:39:56 -0500 (EST) > What's up. I am looking for the Revolver singles here in the US and > I am > having no luck. Are they out yet? I am looking for the version with > the > song from Heat on it. Does anyone know if CDNow or any other online > store > has this version for sale? cdeurope should have both of the uk revolver singles for sale. expect to pay a bit for them and don't get excited because it will take maybe months before they arrive. love, ryu 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 "Noise is the Key, life is full of noise, only death is quiet." "Personally, I don't take any drugs and have never tried any and therefore perhaps have an odd opinion about them; a man must destroy himself before he is destroyed by the system!" -Alec Empire- 77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777 Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anuranman <ryu97@twd.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) into the blue Date: 04 Apr 1997 10:38:50 -0500 (EST) At 03:10 AM 4/4/97 -0800, you wrote: >> which you have described, which is the uk regular release, and then there >> was a limited edition two cd version that was limited to only 10,000(?) >or >> so copies worldwide. > >Any more info on that release? I'd like to get a hold of it.... you will have some trouble finding it anywhere now. it was pretty limited from the start and the only placese that might still have it in stock will be charging you like $40 for it. it is in a black rubber-like cd case and has puffy moby characitures on it. you can't miss it i fyou see it. you can try german music express, or cdeurope. they are the only two places that i know of htat had it for the short while when it was first released last year. love, ryu 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 "Noise is the Key, life is full of noise, only death is quiet." "Personally, I don't take any drugs and have never tried any and therefore perhaps have an odd opinion about them; a man must destroy himself before he is destroyed by the system!" -Alec Empire- 77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777 Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) "Techno" in the news Date: 04 Apr 1997 11:31:00 -0500 btw, the guy on red green youre referring to is probably winston rothchild, the sewere jockey. :) Sinjin "If women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy."-Red Green, esquire ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Revolver singles question Date: 04 Apr 1997 12:02:26 -0500 (EST) go to CDNow online if you want to get the vinyl and cd version..that's where i got my copies.... l.e. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Chim" <bchim@mustang.uwo.ca> Subject: Re: (mobility) Another Review and a few thoughts o Date: 04 Apr 1997 15:21:14 +0000 > From: fishlips@ahbqs.com > Subject: Re: (mobility) Another Review and a few thoughts o > To: mobility@mail.xmission.com >Well for me "Ambient" was my first excursion into ambient music..so >it was very different for me..all I was used to was the beatier techno >music of Moby and other artists...but as soon as I found more ambient >albums(AFX's SAW2 for example)..I realized how amazing "Ambient" was Actually, I own quite a bit of ambient music(including afx, orb, eno, early fsol, etc) and it didn't help me to appreciate Moby's Ambient at all. IMO, Ambient is his second worse album(to AR) and I fully understand why Moby didn't want Instinct to release it at first. I find it a bore at best and annoying most of the time(besides tracks one, two, and five). This is not to say Moby can't make ambient. Little Idiot is a great disc, as are The End Of Everything and the ambient songs on EIW. Actually, Moby is one of the best ambient artists I've heard, but unfortunately I just don't like his album with that title. Ironic? Ben ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: (mobility) From www.thesaint.com Date: 04 Apr 1997 14:02:28 -0500 About the post Eric...are you sure you're reading each and every post to the list?!?! I posted the same info a while back ;> Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anuranman <ryu97@twd.net> Subject: (mobility) ambient Date: 04 Apr 1997 17:07:39 -0500 (EST) i like ambient alot. a whole lot. since it was released before moby could finish it, it has a certain raw quality to it, and i'm attracted to that quality. not as good as the end of everything or little idiot, but good none the less. love, ryu 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 "Noise is the Key, life is full of noise, only death is quiet." "Personally, I don't take any drugs and have never tried any and therefore perhaps have an odd opinion about them; a man must destroy himself before he is destroyed by the system!" -Alec Empire- 77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777 Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anuranman <ryu97@twd.net> Subject: (mobility) dj moby? Date: 04 Apr 1997 17:08:55 -0500 (EST) this may be a tuff question to ask, but does anyone here have access to any of moby's early dj mix tapes? the only djing of him that i've heard is on his mixmag thing and the mixed EiW. i'd love to hear some of his early rave sets. love, ryu 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 "Noise is the Key, life is full of noise, only death is quiet." "Personally, I don't take any drugs and have never tried any and therefore perhaps have an odd opinion about them; a man must destroy himself before he is destroyed by the system!" -Alec Empire- 77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777 Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anuranman <ryu97@twd.net> Subject: (mobility) mobyaolchattranscript Date: 04 Apr 1997 17:23:12 -0500 (EST) could someone please let me know where i can find the transcript from the moby aol chat the other day. i know it was posted to the list, but i accidently erased it. i tried the daniels ultimate moby page, but had trouble accessing the links on it. thanks in advance. love, ryu 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 "Noise is the Key, life is full of noise, only death is quiet." "Personally, I don't take any drugs and have never tried any and therefore perhaps have an odd opinion about them; a man must destroy himself before he is destroyed by the system!" -Alec Empire- 77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777 Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "talk dirt to me" <mutton@jane.penn.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) "Techno" in the news Date: 04 Apr 1997 17:32:35 -0600 dood, i couldn't agree wit you more. devout jeremy ---------- : From: .xAQ_ <zbentz@d.umn.edu> : To: mobility@mail.xmission.com : Subject: Re: (mobility) "Techno" in the news : Date: Friday, April 04, 1997 8:17 AM : : WHY IZZIT THAT THEY *NEVER* MENTION HARDCORE IN THESE DAMN REVIEWS OF : TECHNO!!!!! i know it's not very big over here yet, but still... : there was a article very much like this one in our local paper, but they : too never mentioned the hardcore scene. rolling stone, spin, and details : have never mentioned it, even though they always report on techno. GRRRR!!!! : -xaq- : the shack of xaq-103.3fm KUMD-tuesdays 10pm-trance/happy hardcore/dance : "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." : "are ya done squeezing me yet?" <-ranma 1/2-> <-moby-> : "women love all that rubber." <-some guy on red green-> : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: (mobility) In a Dream Date: 04 Apr 1997 17:44:45 -0500 (EST) in a dream i heard the voice of blue waters singing to me a tune of serenity a tune of peace and patience and from a distance i saw a man. small figured, a bit awkward looking strangely beautiful a whale approached me on the other side that man reached his hand out to me which protected me from the whales big mouth that man was Moby, and that whale was Moby Dick they both shared a common identity with the seamo moby calmed the sea and protected us humans from danger and moby dick wreaked havoc and chaos that man came to my aid and kept me from being swallowed God? he will never come close to the One living above a good man with love and care indeed, that's what he was and i pay homage to such a man. this is a little thought i'd put in since i really don't write much on this list....love you all! l.e. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss <eric_w@geocities.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) From www.thesaint.com Date: 04 Apr 1997 15:00:59 -0800 oops... sorry there pal... no i did have to skip a bunch of posts due to vacation... im apologizes to everyone -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip "If you were god what would upset you more, bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss <eric_w@geocities.com> Subject: (mobility) spoken word Date: 04 Apr 1997 15:35:03 -0800 okay i was thinking in the car about moby (as i often do <G>) anyway i was thinking about how i wish he would write a book since i enjoy reading his essays in the CDs... and then i thought.. even better... he should do what ex punker Henry Rollins does.. write a book and then go on a spoken word tour.. its obvious he isnt shy about his beliefs and enjoys talking about them... or even better... if he spoke at a small club and a couple of microphones were set up... have a huge Quaker like meeting.... woah.... what do you y'all think? -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip "If you were god what would upset you more, bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com> Subject: (mobility) Joy Electric! Date: 04 Apr 1997 18:44:35 -0500 heres a question..any of you elektro junkies out there a Joy Electric fan? Sinjin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com> Subject: (mobility) Joy Electric! Date: 04 Apr 1997 18:44:35 -0500 heres a question..any of you elektro junkies out there a Joy Electric fan? Sinjin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com> Subject: (mobility) hardcore? Date: 04 Apr 1997 18:48:42 -0500 what in hades is all this talk about hardcore? in my days as a hardcore boy, hardcore has lotsa shaved heads, lotsa heavy chugging guitars, and really gutteral screaming/growling/belching vocals, preaching different things depending on which band youre talking about. is there ANOTHER hardcore movement? if so, id like to make a motion that we disallow usage of the word hardcore altogether. like alternative, it will have lost its meaning due to overusage and overgeneralization. i wish people would quit wrecking MY language! NON straight edge, Sinjin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bluegirl <mlverma@odin.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) spoken word Date: 04 Apr 1997 18:14:39 -0600 (CST) On Fri, 4 Apr 1997, eric weiss wrote: > okay i was thinking in the car about moby (as i often do <G>) anyway i > was thinking about how i wish he would write a book since i enjoy > reading his essays in the CDs... and then i thought.. even better... he > should do what ex punker Henry Rollins does.. write a book and then go > on a spoken word tour.. its obvious he isnt shy about his beliefs and > enjoys talking about them... or even better... if he spoke at a small > club and a couple of microphones were set up... have a huge Quaker like > meeting.... woah.... what do you y'all think? > -- > Eric Weiss > interesting idea... but im not sure how well it would work. while i like Moby's ideas a lot more that Rollin's... Rollin's started doing spoken work years ago & developed a large spoken word fanbase. if Moby did do a spoken word tour type thing he would probably have to start out small... thats all i have to say for now... it is a pretty interesting idea (sorry bout the weird symbols... my computer went nuts & i cant get rid of them) *----*bluegirl*--------------------* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brad Caviness" <bigwig@agora.ualr.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) Joy Electric! Date: 04 Apr 1997 18:39:14 -0600 > heres a question..any of you elektro junkies out there a Joy Electric > fan? > When Ronnie's on, he's -- as Tooth and Nail head Brandon Ebel put it -- a laser guided, pop music genius. But for every "Courage" or "Sorcery," it seems there's a couple of dozen, well, everything else he's written, that don't quite measure up. I loved the experimental edge of Dance House Children. But it looks like when brother Jason left to form Starflyer 59, he took all his darker, moody tendencies with him. Making the new Joy Electric a big, happy gay thing that gets way too sweet. BSC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "talk dirt to me" <mutton@jane.penn.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) hardcore? Date: 04 Apr 1997 19:36:09 -0600 hardcore hardcore or hardcore electronica? even if they were talking about just plain hardcore, you yourself just generalized an entire group of people, being even more hypocritical than your "adversaries". have you listened to any recent hardcore? were you a cute little hardcore boy? awwwww. did you like the last hardcore movement? if so, what is wrong, other than your lost devotion to drugs or other non straight edge stuff. things change doooood. people may not want to destroy themselves forever. oh darn. jeremy non offensive my language? hmmmmmm Webster? ---------- : From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com> : To: mobility@xmission.com : Subject: (mobility) hardcore? : Date: Friday, April 04, 1997 5:48 PM : : what in hades is all this talk about hardcore? in my days as a hardcore : boy, hardcore has lotsa shaved heads, lotsa heavy chugging guitars, and : really gutteral screaming/growling/belching vocals, preaching different : things depending on which band youre talking about. is there ANOTHER : hardcore movement? if so, id like to make a motion that we disallow : usage of the word hardcore altogether. like alternative, it will have : lost its meaning due to overusage and overgeneralization. i wish people : would quit wrecking MY language! : : NON straight edge, : Sinjin : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Himes <mrh160@psu.edu> Subject: (mobility) cool Date: 04 Apr 1997 19:53:23 -0500 Cool, I just heard some guy blasting Fealing So Real in his dorm room. Kinda makes ya' feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Later, Matt Himes aka: _______________ ___________ __________ ___ ___ /_____ _____/| / _____ /| / _______/| / /| / /| |____/ /|_____|/ / /|___/ / / / /|______|/ / /_/__/ / / / / / / /_/__/ / / / /_/____ /_______ / / / / / / __ ___/ / / _______/| |______/ / / / / / / / |\ \__|/ / /|______|/ / / / / / / / / / \\ \ / /_/_____ _____/ / / /__/ / /__/ / \\__\ /__________/| /_______/ / |__|/ |__|/ |__| |__________|/ |_______|/ mrh160@psu.edu trey@psu.edu Trey's Mechwarrior Niche-> http://www.ecsel.psu.edu/~mhimes/ Trey's Other Mechwarrior Niche-> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/3527 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Stegenga <steg@ix.netcom.com> Subject: (mobility) Spoken Word Date: 04 Apr 1997 19:22:16 -0600 About this spoken word thing...just a few cents of info regarding my opinion... I really dig the spoken word scene...two of my favourites in that field of work are Rollins and Laurie Anderson. Each has their own style (one is raw and the other has an amazing stage show). If Moby did the spoken word circuit, he'd definitely have to start out small, but I don't think he'd really get far with it. His presence on stage while talking is very quiet and shy. Almost as if he's nervous. His interviews on radio and TV I think show a quiet individual with alot to say, and music helps him release those demons inside. His writing expresses the same, but if he actually READ them on stage...boring. Rollins has this controlling presence on stage (voice, look, honesty...) and Laurie is engulfed with scientific wizardry. Unless you consider shyness a quality on stage, I don't. Not to cut down Moby...his writings inside EIW and AR are great. Maybe he should just use them in a multimedia presentation along with his show or as some interactive book/CD. Anyway...I'm gonna be seeing Laurie Anderson at the Park West here in Chi-town this wednesday and I'm very excited. Scott Steg ----- "Come off crisp and play up to the cynic." -- Helmet ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bluegirl <mlverma@odin.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: (mobility) how about ideas in book form Date: 04 Apr 1997 20:20:40 -0600 (CST) about: >I don't think he'd really get far with it. His presence on stage while >talking is very quiet and shy. Almost as if he's nervous. His interviews >on radio and TV I think show a quiet individual with alot to say, and >music helps him release those demons inside. His writing expresses the >same, but if he actually READ them on stage...boring. Rollins has this >controlling presence on stage (voice,look, honesty...) and Laurie is >engulfed with scientific wizardry. Unless you consider shyness a quality >on stage, I don't. i most surely agrre with these words... Mody doesnt seem to have the right kind of stage presence for spoken word. he has a lot to say, he has a lot in him, but.... i dont think that he would have much success with spoken word. but that doesnt mean that it is not an interesting concept. he'd probably be a lot more successful if he wrote a book of his ideas. he'd probably be able to express them better in that form *----*bluegirl*--------------------* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss <eric_w@geocities.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Spoken Word Date: 04 Apr 1997 18:27:48 -0800 i do love the spoken word genre and personally i find Laurie Anderson a bit excentric and just.. well just too Laurie Anderson... anyway this isnt a spoken word list so ill get on to my moby point: when i saw (and i know i have said this at least 10 times on the list but its a fun story) moby live it was lollapalooza when he was playing the small stage.. but lo and be hold elasticas keyboard player couldnt get a green card so moby took over their big stage slot... he DEMANDED attention... he was very loud, jumping all over the place, talking about eating why we dont eat cats and dogs and why we shouldnt eat cows and chickens etc... not very quite and shy.. hmmm maybe because of the size of the crowd.. maybe if we see moby playing larger venues he will be this wild crazy man.. oh well what ever... weather you agree or not with my spoken word idea you must admit and book by moby would kick some major rear! as a little side note: there was a question a week or so ago about who would we like to see moby work with... i would love to see moby remix some stuff off the new jamiroquai album... (btw: if you are planning on seeing jamiroquai at the Warfield on May 15th in San Fran let me know and we can meet up and dance the night away!) -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip "If you were god what would upset you more, bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss <eric_w@geocities.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) hardcore? Date: 04 Apr 1997 18:43:23 -0800 woah! not to get involved here, but i am going to step in. He asked a simple question.. no need to jump all over him... take personal attacks to private email... and to straighten something out... i used to and still do listen to all types of music, electronic and hardcore [punk] included... you dont have to be one or the other... and hardcore [punk] fans arent either drug abusers or straight edge.... theres a whole lot inbetween.... talk dirt to me wrote: > hardcore hardcore or hardcore electronica? even if they were talking about > just plain hardcore, you yourself just generalized an entire group of > people, being even more hypocritical than your "adversaries". have you > listened to any recent hardcore? > were you a cute little hardcore boy? awwwww. did you like the last hardcore > movement? if so, what is wrong, other than your lost devotion to drugs or > other non straight edge stuff. things change doooood. people may not want > to destroy themselves forever. oh darn. -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip "If you were god what would upset you more, bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "talk dirty to me" <mutton@jane.penn.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) hardcore? Date: 04 Apr 1997 21:52:32 -0600 how do i say this. it really wasn't a personal attack and if it was phrased so, i appy polly loggy. i just get annoyed when i hear massive generalizations like i read. ya know? slick. hardcore, techno, polka, jazzy, whatever. dance. jeremy ---------- : From: eric weiss <eric_w@geocities.com> : To: mobility@mail.xmission.com : Subject: Re: (mobility) hardcore? : Date: Friday, April 04, 1997 8:43 PM : : woah! not to get involved here, but i am going to step in. He asked a : simple question.. no need to jump all over him... take personal attacks : to private email... and to straighten something out... i used to and : still do listen to all types of music, electronic and hardcore [punk] : included... you dont have to be one or the other... and hardcore [punk] : fans arent either drug abusers or straight edge.... theres a whole lot : inbetween.... : : : talk dirt to me wrote: : > hardcore hardcore or hardcore electronica? even if they were talking about : > just plain hardcore, you yourself just generalized an entire group of : > people, being even more hypocritical than your "adversaries". have you : > listened to any recent hardcore? : > were you a cute little hardcore boy? awwwww. did you like the last hardcore : > movement? if so, what is wrong, other than your lost devotion to drugs or : > other non straight edge stuff. things change doooood. people may not want : > to destroy themselves forever. oh darn. : : -- : Eric Weiss : Epicentre Productions : : eric_w@geocities.com : http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ : http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html : http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip : : "If you were god what would upset you more, : bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of : healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anuranman <ryu97@twd.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) spoken word Date: 04 Apr 1997 22:13:53 -0500 (EST) i think that moby could pull of a spoken word tour. he may seem really modest and quiet, but on stage, he's like a giant tornado of nrg. i believe that he could harness the nrg of his music into written word and perform it with the same amount of gusto and be successful with it! if nothing else, i'd like to see him write a book of essays or poems. or maybe a novel, if he's into that too. another thought: i really liked the photos on the inside of AR. it would also be cool to see a photography book by moby. love, ryu 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 "Noise is the Key, life is full of noise, only death is quiet." "Personally, I don't take any drugs and have never tried any and therefore perhaps have an odd opinion about them; a man must destroy himself before he is destroyed by the system!" -Alec Empire- 77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777 Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anuranman <ryu97@twd.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) hardcore? Date: 04 Apr 1997 22:19:42 -0500 (EST) At 06:48 PM 4/4/97 -0500, you wrote: >what in hades is all this talk about hardcore? in my days as a hardcore >boy, hardcore has lotsa shaved heads, lotsa heavy chugging guitars, and >really gutteral screaming/growling/belching vocals, preaching different >things depending on which band youre talking about. is there ANOTHER >hardcore movement? "hardcore" is a pretty arbitrary word. xaq was originally referring to the hardcore rave scene. this is totally different than the old hardcore punk scene. moby's "thousand" and "ul he fu" would be considered hardcore techno...even though they are a bit old. and to answer xaq's question, the reason i think that the media ignores the hardcore techno scene is becuase there is no financial gain in it. you can't sell 200 bpm speedcore gabba to a junior high kid, but my grandpa can get into the chemical brothers. love, ryu 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 "Noise is the Key, life is full of noise, only death is quiet." "Personally, I don't take any drugs and have never tried any and therefore perhaps have an odd opinion about them; a man must destroy himself before he is destroyed by the system!" -Alec Empire- 77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777 Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader <srader@uci.edu> Subject: (mobility) Moby article in a magazine. Date: 04 Apr 1997 20:17:47 -0800 I don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet, but I'll do it just in case. I saw an article in an issue of AP with Moby in it. I believe it was called Moby vs. Danzig. I just had time to read one line in the dialog between Moby and Danzig. I consisted of Danzig stating that he didn't believe in god... I THINK it was AP magazine.. Shaun ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: babylemonade67@juno.com (J J j) Subject: (mobility) AOL CHAT on my page Date: 05 Apr 1997 01:10:13 EST I have the Moby AOL Chat transcript on my page (the address is under my name on the bottom of this message) You can either read it off my page or download it from my page. While you are at it drop me a note about your opinion of my page. There is not a ton of Moby stuff but there is some veggie things that might also be of interest. thanks, James C. BABY LEMONADE: http://members.aol.com/DALI67/babylemonade.html PETA: http://www.envirolink.org/arrs/PETA/ Love all sentient creatures, whether they be animal or man, and always be truthful to yourself and others. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) hardcore? Date: 05 Apr 1997 01:22:22 -0500 dude are you on smack or do you just enjoy pulling arguments out of thin air? what on earth are you talking about? at what point have i professed drug use? is it generalizing for someone who was very much at the heart of something to describe what was going on in honest terms? at what point did i advocate self destruction of anyone? what gives you the right to play God and talk down to me? put down the pipe and shut the hell up. Sinjin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Joy Electric! Date: 05 Apr 1997 01:24:32 -0500 afraid i have to object on the grounds of happy stuff being a good thing. im a bit tired of listening to FLA bitch about the machines taking over the world. ive got problems. i like to hear something nostalgic and relieving. but if sad is yer game, have you heard the title track from 5 stars for failure? beautiful stuff. and i dont think jason has a dark bone in his body. him and ronnie are VERY alike. :) Sinjin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) hardcore? Date: 05 Apr 1997 01:27:38 -0500 generalization? GENERALIZATION? why dont you go ask snap case or orange 9mm what kind of music they play. theyll both answer "hardcore." ask the straight-edge kids at a strongarm show what kind of music theyre there for. theyll answer "hardcore." its not a generalization. its a term applying to a very broad grouping that calls THEMSELVES hardcore. Sinjin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) hardcore? Date: 05 Apr 1997 01:29:24 -0500 ok lets clarify things so Banzai Boy cant get his jollies by flaming me. some one please, in specific, descriptive terms, tell me about hardcore techno. Sinjin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Himes <mrh160@psu.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) hardcore? Date: 05 Apr 1997 01:48:47 -0500 At 01:29 AM 4/5/97 -0500, you wrote: >ok lets clarify things so Banzai Boy cant get his jollies by flaming me. >some one please, in specific, descriptive terms, tell me about hardcore >techno. > >Sinjin > Easy, easy. Didn't you get the message yet where he apologized? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric M. Goldberg" <gold@bridge.net> Subject: (mobility) Moby Midis - Heat Mix Date: 05 Apr 1997 02:22:50 -0600 In case you're really bored and feel like hearing moby come through your soundcard or synth you can visit http://www.bridge.net/~gold/mb/mb.htm and just visit the My Music Section.. Im not trying to advertise or anything, because I just tonight finished sequencing the God Moving Over The Face Of The Waters - Heat Mix, and i figured maybe someone would be bored :) and also thought i read that you people were having trouble finding that single, so now you can hear it :) just not as well.. Anyways go if you like, there are other moby midis there too, including the original gmotfotw.. this mix is not perfect and is a wittle sloppy but its better than nothing.. Well enough garble from me Happy Daylight Savings Time! Eric - Eric M. Goldberg gold@bridge.net Music Box Homepage http://www.bridge.net/~gold/mb/mb.htm "There are only two kinds of music. Good and the other kind." Duke Ellington - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Himes <mrh160@psu.edu> Subject: (mobility) 1979 moby remix mp3 Date: 05 Apr 1997 02:26:14 -0500 Hey kids, I just found an mp3 file of Moby remix of the Pumkins' 1979 on an ftp server full of mp3's. The quality is miserable (22 khz, 24 kb/s, yuck) but is a copy of it, for those of whose who have never heard and don't know how to get it otherwise. The web address is http://129.174.188.132/ . I could also email it to anyone just wants it (it's only about 300k) or turn on my ftp server if we really want to get complicated. Tell me what you think. Later, Matt Himes aka: _______________ ___________ __________ ___ ___ /_____ _____/| / _____ /| / _______/| / /| / /| |____/ /|_____|/ / /|___/ / / / /|______|/ / /_/__/ / / / / / / /_/__/ / / / /_/____ /_______ / / / / / / __ ___/ / / _______/| |______/ / / / / / / / |\ \__|/ / /|______|/ / / / / / / / / / \\ \ / /_/_____ _____/ / / /__/ / /__/ / \\__\ /__________/| /_______/ / |__|/ |__|/ |__| |__________|/ |_______|/ mrh160@psu.edu trey@psu.edu Trey's Mechwarrior Niche-> http://www.ecsel.psu.edu/~mhimes/ Trey's Other Mechwarrior Niche-> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/3527 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: (mobility) More "Techno" in the "news" Date: 05 Apr 1997 01:59:02 -0500 SO>SonicNet Sonic Boom: Your weekly dose of what's new at SonicNet SO>and Addicted to Noise! April 4, 1997 (v 1.26) SO>DOWN & DIRTY WITH THE CHEMICAL BROTHERS - You've been hearing all SO>about this electronica stuff. Everyone says it's the next big thing. Now SO>we sit down with the source. Two of the mainmen of this whole new techno SO>thing. They're cool, they're funny, and you can check out samples of their SO>music while you get some insight into what they're about. SO>http://www.addict.com/html/hifi/Features/ I bet EVERYONE is gonna be rushing to that www addy ;> Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: joeclark@interlog.com (Joe Clark) Subject: (mobility) Punctuation, kids! Punctuation! Date: 05 Apr 1997 09:47:04 -0500 >Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 17:07:39 -0500 (EST) >From: Anuranman <ryu97@twd.net> >Subject: (mobility) ambient > >i like ambient alot. a whole lot. >since it was released before moby could finish it, it has a certain >raw quality to it, and i'm attracted to that quality. not as good >as the end of everything or little idiot, but good none the less. Here we go with the punctuation problem again. ("Again," that is, after suffering through it in a zillion other mailing lists. Worst offender: the Pet Shop Boys list.) Dear listmembers: Remember that song titles and album titles need to be set off from the mass of undifferentiated ASCII text that is an E-mail for us to understand what the eff-you-see-kay you're talking about. Did Anuranman like ambient music a lot, or the album _Ambient_? Exactly what is not as good as the end of everything? (Purgatory? You aren't looking forward to the rapture?) This is not a hairsplitting issue. go ahead and indulge in the self-effacement of lowercase if you must. OR SCREAM, FOR ALL I CARE. But for heaven's sake, use "s to surround song titles (don't use an acronym in the first instance) and _s to surround album titles (ditto). It's just too damn confusing to read otherwise. The complaints from under-20-year-olds and/or AOLers, who never really learned how to read and write, like, proper or whatever, are acknowledged in advance. Even if it annoys you, possessing these skills is important, and they are relevant even on informal music mailing lists. And no, I rarely make typing mistakes mysel.f Joe Clark joeclark@interlog.com <http://www.interlog.com/~joeclark> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) hardcore? Date: 05 Apr 1997 09:49:15 -0500 yes and his idea of apology doesnt amuse me. now are you going to answer me or do i have to remain ignorant? Sinjin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby Midis - Heat Mix Date: 05 Apr 1997 09:50:52 -0500 wow...phat. :) wish i had a functional soundcard. <in general george s patton, jr. voice> son youre quite a dedicated soldier and deserve to be commended. Sinjin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) More "Techno" in the "news" Date: 05 Apr 1997 09:55:23 -0500 dont you love how the media is Y.M.'ing electronic music? :) "inside: 10 tips to make that vinyl spinning techno-babe yours! Quiz: Is your Raver boy just using you for your X? Moby tells all! get the inside scoop on his band, his bod, and how he wants you to look!" <snickering> i think we're all in big, BIG trouble. :) Sinjin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Punctuation, kids! Punctuation! Date: 05 Apr 1997 09:57:31 -0500 being an english major i reserve the right to type horrendously mif i so choose. :) however in about 4 months when i have to make the jump to music major, i suppose ill have to start typing immaculately to prove i know the language. :) :) :) Sinjin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Punctuation, kids! Punctuation! Date: 05 Apr 1997 09:57:31 -0500 being an english major i reserve the right to type horrendously mif i so choose. :) however in about 4 months when i have to make the jump to music major, i suppose ill have to start typing immaculately to prove i know the language. :) :) :) Sinjin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com> Subject: (mobility) album o' the year? Date: 05 Apr 1997 10:00:10 -0500 ok gang..were almost a third of the way thru the year and i dare say its time to express a little opinion on the music thrown to us this year. so, everyone all together now, what are your top 5 picks for album of the year so far? Rosencrantz and Sinjinstern are dead. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keri schaeffer <kschaff@foothill.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) Punctuation, kids! Punctuation! and spelling too. Date: 05 Apr 1997 07:25:09 -0800 Joe Clark wrote: >Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 17:07:39 -0500 (EST) >From: Anuranman <ryu97@twd.net> >Subject: (mobility) ambient >Go get them Joe! It appears that alot of people forget the ".You should use a " when the subject,or title is not your own thought. those nasty acronyms also suck.For everyone for whom english is not their first language forget the previous thought. I have a hard time in spanish with those tricky verbs. Just relax and enjoy.keri ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric M. Goldberg" <gold@bridge.net> Subject: (mobility) A Moby Interview Date: 05 Apr 1997 11:03:58 -0600 I was looking around today and stumbled upon this interview from the retroactive baggage website. I havent even read it because frankly I don't feel like reading right now, but for those of you here it is. Also they had a picture of Moby with I guess his or just someone else's dog. So if you want to see it or read the interview in its original form go to http://www.baggage.co.uk/issue14/moby.html And here is the interview, I know it might seem a bit long but some of you have said that you don't have easy www access so here goes.. =========================================================================== Tony and Dave talk to Moby, who's not that mad or Christian or vegan really. Moby has always been one of the music scene's most interesting and diverse characters, defying definition by veering between happy hardcore, ambient soundscapes and industrial metal with apparent ease; but at this years Reading Festival he still surprised many by delivering a straightforward punk rock set, totally abandoning the sequencer in favour of loud guitars from his new record "Animal Rights." Moby started out in guitar punk and new wave bands before being caught up in the dance scene in the mid-eighties; but is now growing bored with the dance scene just as the mainstream appears to be catching on. Why has he moved back in this direction exclusively? "At first I tried to incorporate the two - punk rock music with the electronic sounds of the sequencer - but I ended up sounding like Billy Idol. Part of the joy of this is not being tied to a computer and improvising, it's emancipating. I guess that at the time I just didn't feel particularly eclectic! With "Everything Is Wrong" I was feeling a little more open and wanted to represent all these different things that I was interested in but lately, the only things I felt interested in are speed metal and classical music." Moby talks with some disenchantment about the contemporary dance scene: "I still like a lot of it - it's nice, but it doesn't make the hairs on the back of my neck stick up." Is that because he thinks there's less good dance music coming out or just because he's been there, done that? "It's probably a combination of the two. There's a marked lack of passion and intensity in electronic dance music - it's more conservative and restrained on an emotional level. Now it's a virtue to see how stylized and restrained you can make a record, as opposed to 1991 when records were big huge booming fiascos. Today's dance music is nice when you're waiting for a table in a restaurant but..." So doesn't that make him want to come back and make that huge, uplifting record for today? "Well, I tried with "Feeling So Real", which was my statement of what I love about dance music, but the people who were interested weren't the dance people. The dance community said it's just cheesy happy hardcore - well, better emotional hardcore than cool, 'intelligent' techno." Does this move away from technology partly reflect Moby's dislike for the effects of modern lifestyles? "Everything we do in the late twentieth century - in the context of the end of western civilisation, is going to be hypocritical. It's hard to be a purist; the only way to be a purist environmentalist is to kill yourself, really. At one level I love being alive in the modern world, as it's interesting and fascinating; I don't have a problem so much with technology as its applications. There are very few things which are fundamentally evil." Despite this, Moby's song titles ("Everything is Wrong"/"The End of Everything" etc.) seem to demonstrate a strong streak of pessimism with the world of today. "It's more overwhelming, not so much pessimistic as depressed at the effects of modern institutions on human beings, how they've separated us from each other and the possibility of leading productive satisfying lives... Sure, we can live fairly disease free, but the quality of life is compromised by values of our culture - just adhering to the status quo." Moby is often caricatured as "that extremist vegan/Christian nutter" so we felt that it was time to delve beneath the common preconceptions to consider Moby's true feelings on the matter. After all, his appearance onstage at Reading with the slogan "FUCKER" daubed across his chest in paint seems somewhat at odds with the traditional image of Christian moderation. One description of his views we recently read dubbed him a "libertarian, unorthodox Christian" - "Well, unorthodox Christian, sure. I like Christ and I'm yet to find a better description of the human condition than that which Christ gives in the New Testament; but "libertarian"? There's a Libertarian Party in the United States and they're nuts. I'm not a civil libertarian but people should be able to do what they want as long as it doesn't impinge upon the rights of others - if you want to do heroin or blow your head off or if you want to have an abortion, fine, as long as it only affects you. The police's job shouldn't be preserving aesthetics." But surely most cases aren't clear - smoking is a personal choice but affects others just as suicide affects families in society. "Well, people always try to hide behind the smokescreen, no pun intended, of individual liberties when something they like is challenged but we've got to try to build a pragmatic consensus - smoking does hurt others, therefore in Moby's world smoking should be illegal, at least in the presence of other people. Your actions are compromising somebody else's ability to enjoy life - that's where the law should step in." There are certainly very few high profile Christians in the music world, and while many Christians would be expected to oppose the high profile of drugs in the scene Moby doesn't see himself in opposition with these trends. "I don't really have a big problem with drugs or hedonism; I just have a problem with people hurting themselves. Its like the movie Trainspotting - the opening tirade makes a lot of sense to me, I do see drug use as a viable alternative to modern suburban living; not that I would advocate it for anyone, but I don't have a real problem with it. I have a much bigger problem with people doing work and living lives that are compromised - doing your job and feeling like an upstanding member of the society but they hate their job, they're unhealthy, not happy with their family and don't feel satisfied with anything. I see that as a lot more evil and widespread than hedonism and degeneracy. A lot of the hedonism of the dance scene is destructive, just placating people so that in the week they can go and do their mind-numbing jobs - the jobs are the problem, not the drugs! The drugs aspect of dance music was what made it so interesting in a lot of ways - especially MDMA which seemed to really liberate a lot of people. The whole drug issue is dealt with in black & white with no ambiguity: either pro or anti-drugs; pro-Christian or anti-Christian - there's no ambiguity but the world just isn't like that. Why not take each issue as it comes? MDMA is a good example; it was used by psychotherapists for years in benevolent ways but suddenly people start self-medicating with a seemingly benign drug and the government says 'No, its bad'. Well where's the empirical evidence? Its just so inconsistent." Moby's album sleeves are always worth reading for their often scathing attacks on the excesses of society and promotion of an ethical way of life, but they have been dismissed by some as simply a hypertrophy of Christianity. Certainly, the love of Christ is an important aspect of Moby's work, but is the basis of Moby's viewpoint dependent on belief in God? "No, I think it relies on subjectivity. The essence of my ethical structure is the Golden Rule: if I don't want it done to me, I shouldn't do it to someone else. If I don't want a couple of pigs to put me in a stockade and kill me for my skin, I shouldn't do it to pigs. That's where my ethics come from - its really basic on that level." Of course, much established Christian thought (e.g. Catholicism) is contrary to this viewpoint - according to the Old Testament animals are placed under man's dominance due to our privileged relationship with God and are to be exploited for man's ends. The Church also bases its homophobia on Scriptural grounds. "Well, they should come and ask me 'cause I've figured it out! My belief is completely separate from the culture of Christianity. I see some flaws in it but I'm committed to Christ, not Christianity. But to me looking at the universe speaks of the existence of God; the existence of an architect at least and if you want to understand the character of the architect you've got to look at the character of the universe. If you want to learn about God, look at a forest." At this point the conversation moves into a discussion of the basis of faith, the success of Genesis chapters 1 and 2 as analogy, historical quirks of organised religion and rival theories for the origin of the universe. Fascinating as this was , its inclusion may be somewhat at odds with the typical content of the Baggage so it will have to be held back pending a decision to include a philosophical discussion page between the Live Reviews and the Elliott Interview. Later that evening Moby played with Soundgarden at the Wolverhampton Civic Hall, and won over a crowd probably unfamiliar with his dance material with an entertaining half hour of hardcore punk rock and superb thrash metal versions of house classics "Everytime You Touch Me" and "Go". According to Moby: "For some reason the British mainstream press don't want to really talk to me - they're confused and waiting to see how everybody else will respond." And although I was disappointed by his move away from his superb electronic past I was quickly won over by his performance which proves not only that he is 'jack-of-all-trades' but also 'master of all'. But the truly frightening question remains - after the not-inconsiderable shift from uplifting house to speed metal; what on earth will he try his hand at next? Moby was talking to Tony and Dave. =========================================================================== - Eric M. Goldberg gold@bridge.net Music Box Homepage http://www.bridge.net/~gold/mb/mb.htm "There are only two kinds of music. Good and the other kind." Duke Ellington - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Joy Electric! Date: 05 Apr 1997 11:28:06 -0500 (EST) joy electric is a good man!!! tooth and nail did a bad thing by letting him go..he's got his own little electronic thing going for him.... l.e. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ".xAQ_" <zbentz@d.umn.edu> Subject: (mobility) woah! Date: 05 Apr 1997 11:12:57 -0600 (CST) ok. i think some of us are getting a bit off topic. if you're going to talk about anything other than moby, take it somewhere else. i am eternally annoyed by people telling me who to write, so don't. when i said "hardcore," i ment people like technohead, lenny dee, rob gee, force & styles, justin time, slipmatt, charly lownoise & mental theo, dugal, eruption, and many many MANY others... basically, "hardcore" techno is fast. that's about it. from 170bpm's to 20,000,000. (yes, i know of one) moby's "feeling so real" is "hardcore" if you pitch it up a bit. so there. now lets stop all this pointless fighting. it makes you look bad. >8) -xaq- the shack of xaq-103.3fm KUMD-tuesdays 10pm-trance/happy hardcore/dance "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." "are ya done squeezing me yet?" <-ranma 1/2-> <-moby-> "women love all that rubber." <-some guy on red green-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samu Heinonen <samuhei@dlc.fi> Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year? Date: 05 Apr 1997 20:45:28 +0300 (EDT) At 10.00 5.4.1997 -0500, you wrote: >ok gang..were almost a third of the way thru the year and i dare say its >time to express a little opinion on the music thrown to us this year. >so, everyone all together now, what are your top 5 picks for album of >the year so far? > >Rosencrantz and Sinjinstern are dead. > > > Moby:Animal Rights David Bowie: Earthling Bjork: Telegram These are my 3 best.. Best of various: The Saint Soundtrack.. +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ | Samu | | Heinonen | | e-mail:samuhei@dlc.fi | | Finland | | http://www.dlc.fi/~samuhei | +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Joy Electric! Date: 05 Apr 1997 12:44:05 -0500 Chilidiba9@aol.com wrote: > > joy electric is a good man!!! tooth and nail did a bad thing by letting him > go..he's got his own little electronic thing going for him.... > > l.e. i just found out y4esterday what the story was on that. i thought it was kinda wierd that Brandon would let ronnie just go like that because brandon ADORES Ronnie and his music. bet then after reading some stuff, it all hit me at once. ive been BLIND! all those bands <JE, stavesacre, supertones, slick shoes> jumped over to BEC records..and whattya think BEC stands for? BRANDON EBEL COMPANY. sorta like dgc=david geffen company? brandons still got em all...and whats happening is brandon is going to be making the big push into mainstream a la subpop. <believe it or not i actually talked to brandon about this about a year ago. io dont know WHY it took me this long to figure it out> hes concentraing on gettign these bands going and then selling part of the rights to a bigger company..the way sub pop did...and then having the tooth and nail logo on all the records..good business for everyone. now what appears to be the case with BEC is that brandon has taken matters into his own hands as far as mainstream distrubution..hes got a distrubution deal with caroline..hes got a new label with a new aim..hmm..should be interesting Sinjin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MOBYchild@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year? Date: 05 Apr 1997 13:41:10 -0500 (EST) MOBY: Animal Rights Bjork: telegram Orb: Orblivion those are in no order, btw the renegade robot ~L otc+b~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss <eric_w@geocities.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year? Date: 05 Apr 1997 11:04:16 -0800 In order: #3) Bjork - Telegram #2) David Bowie - Earthling #1) Moby - Animal Rights damn looking through what ive been listening to lately.. they are all from 1996 (aphex twin, jamiroquai, dj shadow) i guess im behind the times -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip "If you were god what would upset you more, bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" <hypcadet@spectranet.ca> Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year? Date: 05 Apr 1997 16:05:48 -0800 > ok gang..were almost a third of the way thru the year and i dare say its > time to express a little opinion on the music thrown to us this year. > so, everyone all together now, what are your top 5 picks for album of > the year so far? Hmm....The only 2 1997 things I own are Animal Rights & Death In Vegas: Rekkit (the single)....Cubinate's last disc was at the end of last year though-that one was pretty cool... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" <hypcadet@spectranet.ca> Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year? Date: 05 Apr 1997 16:05:48 -0800 > ok gang..were almost a third of the way thru the year and i dare say its > time to express a little opinion on the music thrown to us this year. > so, everyone all together now, what are your top 5 picks for album of > the year so far? Hmm....The only 2 1997 things I own are Animal Rights & Death In Vegas: Rekkit (the single)....Cubinate's last disc was at the end of last year though-that one was pretty cool... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" <hypcadet@spectranet.ca> Subject: Re: (mobility) spoken word Date: 05 Apr 1997 15:46:31 -0800 > should do what ex punker Henry Rollins does.. write a book and then go That's almost as bad as putting Moby & Danzig in an interview together...wait...that's been done hasn't it? Seriously though-Rollins older spoken word was great (along with Pissing In The Gene Pool) but he's gotten to comedic in his old age....(imo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" <hypcadet@spectranet.ca> Subject: Re: (mobility) spoken word Date: 05 Apr 1997 15:46:31 -0800 > should do what ex punker Henry Rollins does.. write a book and then go That's almost as bad as putting Moby & Danzig in an interview together...wait...that's been done hasn't it? Seriously though-Rollins older spoken word was great (along with Pissing In The Gene Pool) but he's gotten to comedic in his old age....(imo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vanishing Son" <vson@usa.net> Subject: (mobility) rare Moby on MPEG3 Date: 05 Apr 1997 14:23:28 Just wanted to say thanks to Samu Heinonen for the Prodigy MPEG3. I'd love to contribute & trade rare Moby mixes on MP3, and make them available to the list as well. However, what's the consensus on which tracks/mixes are rare? I've got all my Moby catalogued in my music collection list at www.swcp.com/synth/musicinv.txt , but I don't know what would be worthy to MPEG-ize and what would be a waste of time. Any ideas/discussion about this? I've got a German CD-single entitled "Move - The Mixes" (Mute Germany 826.773) with mixes that don't appear on any of the UK or US singles, so maybe this one's a contender. (If you want to get into MPEG3 listening, you can grab freeware and shareware players at www.mpeg.org . I recommend MuseArc for us Windoze 95 users. For Mac users, I believe Quicktime has an extension to play MPEG, but perhaps someone can verify this.) vanishing son / vson@usa.net / www.swcp.com/synth / 505 332 0139 "Bother!" said Pooh, as he violated the Bosnian cease-fire. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Stegenga <steg@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year? Date: 05 Apr 1997 16:00:31 -0600 My top five are tough because not many GOOD releases have come my way yet...but here's what it is so far...in no particular order. 1. Daft Punk - Homework 2. Chemical Brothers - Dig Your Own Hole 3. Moby - Animal Rights 4. The London Suede - Coming Up 5. Depeche Mode - Ultra (I just know it'll be good) --- Scott Steg...I Love Carrots "Are there heartstings connected...to the wings you've got slapped on your back?" - Belly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Born Slippy <cdperk@trib.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year? Date: 05 Apr 1997 15:28:57 -0700 1. FSOL "Dead Cities" 2. Orb "Orblivion" 3. David Bowie "Earthling" 4. Various Artists "Happy 2B Hardcore" 5. Prodigy "Pyromaniac" (although it isn't really an album, it's a bootleg, and i just can't stop listening to it) >ok gang..were almost a third of the way thru the year and i dare say its >time to express a little opinion on the music thrown to us this year. >so, everyone all together now, what are your top 5 picks for album of >the year so far? _______ ________ _______ ____ /cdperk@trib.com ____ | _ \____ / | | | / ___| | | || | | | |/ ____| | | | / | |___| || |_| | |\ \____ | | | | | ___ || / | \______ \|____| | \__|_ | | || |\ \ | | | ____ \ |___| |____|| | \ \___| _______/ /| | \_______| |___| \___\ |________/ |____| <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> http://members.wbs.net/homepages/c/e/n/centralindustrial.html <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> WE HAVE EXPLOSIVE! <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vitamin C <weeg@infonline.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year? Date: 05 Apr 1997 17:48:51 -0500 Hell-o! Here's my contribution to the Top 5 of '97 so far: 1. Live - Secret Samadhi 2. Moby - Animal Rights 3. Mighty Mighty BossTones - Let's Face It 4. Body Count - Violent Demise: The Last Days 5. Offspring - Ixnay on the Hombre' That's all 5 of my current '97 CD's. More are on the way. Paul http://ns.infonline.net/~weeg/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader <srader@uci.edu> Subject: RE: (mobility) rare Moby on MPEG3 Date: 05 Apr 1997 17:21:36 -0800 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BC41E7.1BA54CC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That would be GREAT! The Move Electro Mix sure sounds awesome on the Mixed & Remixed CD. I bet they are all good. I haven't heard those Hymn mixes in full form either. I'd love to hear the full version of All That I Need Is To Be Loved (Melodic Mix) if anyone would like to rip that one. What other songs might people want? I have a few I could trade... Shaun -----Original Message----- Sent: Saturday, April 05, 1997 6:23 AM Just wanted to say thanks to Samu Heinonen for the Prodigy MPEG3. I'd love to contribute & trade rare Moby mixes on MP3, and make them available to the list as well. However, what's the consensus on which tracks/mixes are rare? I've got all my Moby catalogued in my music collection list at www.swcp.com/synth/musicinv.txt , but I don't know what would be worthy to MPEG-ize and what would be a waste of time. Any ideas/discussion about this? 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Punctuation! Date: 05 Apr 1997 19:27:48 -0700 part of the great thing about being on a mailing list is gaining an identity with the rest of the list by building common slang. seeing how this is list is devoted to moby and his music, most members should know what another member means when they type EiW, everything is wrong, or _Everything is Wrong_. if i don't understand what someone is trying to say, i ask. deal with it. not everyone out there in the real world speaks perfect english. (i, like sinjin, am also an english major.) the list is for fun...there shouldn't be requirements for perfect grammar or typing skills in order to participate. now on to everyone's favorite guy... one evening recently when i couldn't get to sleep, my moby-hating roommate had just left and was going to be gone for an hour or so. i realized this was the perfect oportunity to pop little idiot (_little idiot_ for you punctuation freaks) into my cd player. i figured by the time my roommate got back, i'd be fast asleep and the cd would be over. when i woke up the next morning, it was still playing. i had accidentally put it on repeat. i was amazed that my roommate hadn't turned it off. guess what!?! SHE LOVED IT!!!! she was really surprised when she found out it was moby. she still hates most of his stuff, but at least i found something i can listen to without her getting upset. :) yay for me!!! cherilyn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "talk dirty to me" <mutton@jane.penn.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) hardcore? Date: 05 Apr 1997 22:52:09 -0600 amuse? sorry jeremy ---------- : From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com> : To: mobility@mail.xmission.com : Subject: Re: (mobility) hardcore? : Date: Saturday, April 05, 1997 8:49 AM : : yes and his idea of apology doesnt amuse me. now are you going to answer : me or do i have to remain ignorant? : : Sinjin : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "talk dirty to me" <mutton@jane.penn.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) hardcore? Date: 05 Apr 1997 23:36:31 -0600 he said put down the pipe and shut the hell up hehehe and stop playing god did he not sign sinjin non straight edge i think so i made him mad hehehehehehehehehehe i chuckle lawson ---------- : From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com> : To: mobility@mail.xmission.com : Subject: Re: (mobility) hardcore? : Date: Saturday, April 05, 1997 12:22 AM : : dude are you on smack or do you just enjoy pulling arguments out of thin : air? what on earth are you talking about? at what point have i professed : drug use? is it generalizing for someone who was very much at the heart : of something to describe what was going on in honest terms? at what : point did i advocate self destruction of anyone? what gives you the : right to play God and talk down to me? put down the pipe and shut the : hell up. : : Sinjin : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anuranman <ryu97@twd.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) Punctuation, kids! Punctuation! Date: 06 Apr 1997 00:49:58 -0500 (EST) >the list is for >fun...there shouldn't be requirements for perfect grammar or typing skills >in order to participate. PREACH ON SISTER C.....! >SHE LOVED IT!!!! she was >really surprised when she found out it was moby. she still hates most of >his stuff, but at least i found something i can listen to without her >getting upset. :) i had a similar experience a few year back when "E-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g i-s W-r-o-n-g" came out. most of my friends are rivethead industrial nuttahs so they really weren't into the majority of moby's techno stuff. but i was playing EiW in the car and they new it was moby and were like turning their nose up to "hymn"...but when "All that i Need..." kicked in with guitars a blazing, they were like "who is this now?". when i told them that it was moby, they were amazed. today, 3 of the 4 non-believers have switched to moby! and dentists think their toothpaste statistics are important... love, ryu 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 "Noise is the Key, life is full of noise, only death is quiet." "Personally, I don't take any drugs and have never tried any and therefore perhaps have an odd opinion about them; a man must destroy himself before he is destroyed by the system!" -Alec Empire- 77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777 Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss <eric_w@geocities.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) hardcore? Date: 05 Apr 1997 22:14:19 -0800 talk dirty to me wrote: > he said put down the pipe and shut the hell up > hehehe > and stop playing god > did he not sign > sinjin > non straight edge > i think so > i made him mad > hehehehehehehehehehe > i chuckle > lawson woah.. someones seen sling blade (err.. _sling_blade_) a few too many times.. j/k -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip "If you were god what would upset you more, bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samu Heinonen <samuhei@dlc.fi> Subject: Re: (mobility) rare Moby on MPEG3 Date: 06 Apr 1997 10:50:43 +0300 (EDT) At 14.23 5.4.1997, you wrote: >Just wanted to say thanks to Samu Heinonen for the Prodigy MPEG3. > >I'd love to contribute & trade rare Moby mixes on MP3, and make >them available to the list as well. However, what's the consensus >on which tracks/mixes are rare? I've got all my Moby catalogued >in my music collection list at www.swcp.com/synth/musicinv.txt , >but I don't know what would be worthy to MPEG-ize and what would >be a waste of time. Any ideas/discussion about this? I've got a >German CD-single entitled "Move - The Mixes" (Mute Germany 826.773) >with mixes that don't appear on any of the UK or US singles, so >maybe this one's a contender. > >(If you want to get into MPEG3 listening, you can grab freeware >and shareware players at www.mpeg.org . I recommend MuseArc for >us Windoze 95 users. For Mac users, I believe Quicktime has an >extension to play MPEG, but perhaps someone can verify this.) > big thanx for liking that Prodigy song =). it was hard to get to me, anyway. actually i dont have mpeg3 encoder, right now. i encored that song at my friend. i better get one, because i also have some hard to find Moby songs.. =) +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ | Samu | | Heinonen | | e-mail:samuhei@dlc.fi | | Finland | | http://www.dlc.fi/~samuhei | +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brad Caviness" <bigwig@agora.ualr.edu> Subject: (mobility) I had the strangest dream last night Date: 06 Apr 1997 09:54:38 -0500 I dreamed last night that I came home from work, turned on the news and they said Moby was dead. I remember dreaming either Kurt Loder or Tom Brokaw saying drugs were suspected, possibly heroin, and thinking that CAN'T be right. Then I started checking the list and the net for more info, but everyone was busy saying how much they *loved* him ("Alas, poor Urich. I knew him well."), but no one was saying what I wanted to hear: that it wasn't true. That he wasn't just some minor pop figure who was now going to be a "legend" just because he was dead. I remeber crying and falling down in the snow and pounding on the ice (it was winter) but no one understood why. And I remember being glad that I just bought some rarities before this happened and then feeling guilty afterwards. Has anyone else ever had a dream like this? Brad S. Caviness bigwig@agora.ualr.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) I had the strangest dream last night Date: 06 Apr 1997 12:55:27 -0400 Brad Caviness wrote: > > I dreamed last night that I came home from work, turned on the news and > they said Moby was dead. I remember dreaming either Kurt Loder or Tom > Brokaw saying drugs were suspected, possibly heroin, and thinking that > CAN'T be right. Then I started checking the list and the net for more info, > but everyone was busy saying how much they *loved* him ("Alas, poor Urich. > I knew him well."), but no one was saying what I wanted to hear: that it > wasn't true. That he wasn't just some minor pop figure who was now going to > be a "legend" just because he was dead. I remeber crying and falling down > in the snow and pounding on the ice (it was winter) but no one understood > why. And I remember being glad that I just bought some rarities before this > happened and then feeling guilty afterwards. > > Has anyone else ever had a dream like this? > > Brad S. Caviness > bigwig@agora.ualr.edu fraid not. :) and its Yorick. :) and did anyone see the article in AP with moby and glenn danzig? Sinjin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com> Subject: (mobility) album o' the year Date: 06 Apr 1997 13:04:41 -0400 even if this DOES piss off Der Fuhrer, im going to finish what i started. my picks so far: 1: Starflyer 59 "americana" 2:U2 "pop" 3:the forthcoming Circle Of Dust "disengage" 4:Joy Electric "old wives tales" 5:Luxury "the latest and the greatest" please not that animal right is NOT on here. sorry gang. i thought it sucked. i had it for a week and gave it to my best friend. and please dont spam me with "well youre not being open to change, youre not giving his new sound a chance." i havent even HEARD any of moby's old stuff. i have zero idea what his electronic music sounds like. im just basing this assertion off the strength of a genuine analysis of the album. he does have some pretty slick tone on his git-fiddle tho. :) Sinjin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anuranman <ryu97@twd.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) I had the strangest dream last night Date: 06 Apr 1997 13:04:30 -0400 (EDT) >Has anyone else ever had a dream like this? when i was younger, i watched an episode of "growing pains" where ben idolized this rock singer and when he got the chance to meet him, he saw that the singer was a drunken promiscuous druggy who was mean and ignorant to everyone, including ben. because of that show, i've had similar dreams about moby. i've dreamed that i got a chance to meet him after a concert and he was like the total opposite of everything he preached. he had a bear gut, was smoking, and was very cruel to me and didn't want to talk at all. i had dreams that my mom invited him to my house for a birthday party, and he was just really ignorant to everyone and ate meat and was a total bigot. i hate having dreams like these. but i do have good dreams about moby too. i probably have more good dreams than bad ones. see moby doesn't know it yet, but we are long lost siblings. yep. it's true. separated at birth. so he's somewhere, right now, dreaming of meeting me some day too! love, ryu 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 "Noise is the Key, life is full of noise, only death is quiet." "Personally, I don't take any drugs and have never tried any and therefore perhaps have an odd opinion about them; a man must destroy himself before he is destroyed by the system!" -Alec Empire- 77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777 Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ".xAQ_" <zbentz@d.umn.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year Date: 06 Apr 1997 12:26:33 -0500 (CDT) On Sun, 6 Apr 1997, Sinjin wrote: > his new sound a chance." i havent even HEARD any of moby's old stuff. i > have zero idea what his electronic music sounds like. im just basing um...what? if you've never heard any of his "electronic" stuff, and don't like AR, why are you here? i thought this was a list for moby fans... -xaq- the shack of xaq-103.3fm KUMD-tuesdays 10pm-trance/happy hardcore/dance "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." "are ya done squeezing me yet?" <-ranma 1/2-> <-moby-> "women love all that rubber." <-some guy on red green-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ".xAQ_" <zbentz@d.umn.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year Date: 06 Apr 1997 12:26:33 -0500 (CDT) On Sun, 6 Apr 1997, Sinjin wrote: > his new sound a chance." i havent even HEARD any of moby's old stuff. i > have zero idea what his electronic music sounds like. im just basing um...what? if you've never heard any of his "electronic" stuff, and don't like AR, why are you here? i thought this was a list for moby fans... -xaq- the shack of xaq-103.3fm KUMD-tuesdays 10pm-trance/happy hardcore/dance "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." "are ya done squeezing me yet?" <-ranma 1/2-> <-moby-> "women love all that rubber." <-some guy on red green-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keri schaeffer <kschaff@foothill.net> Subject: (mobility) Re: article in ap Date: 06 Apr 1997 10:24:18 -0700 Sinjin wrote: Brad Caviness wrote: > > I dreamed last night that I came home from work, turned on the news and > they said Moby was dead. I remember dreaming either Kurt Loder or Tom > Brokaw saying drugs were suspected, possibly heroin, and thinking that > CAN'T be right. Then I started checking the list and the net for more info, > but everyone was busy saying how much they *loved* him ("Alas, poor Urich. > I knew him well."), but no one was saying what I wanted to hear: that it > wasn't true. That he wasn't just some minor pop figure who was now going to > be a "legend" just because he was dead. I remeber crying and falling down > in the snow and pounding on the ice (it was winter) but no one understood > why. And I remember being glad that I just bought some rarities before this > happened and then feeling guilty afterwards. > > Has anyone else ever had a dream like this? > > Brad S. Caviness > bigwig@agora.ualr.edu fraid not. :) and its Yorick. :) and did anyone see the article in AP with moby and glenn danzig? Sinjin I'm working on the article right now. I just sent in my subscription to this mag.Do you think it's worth it? keri ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keri schaeffer <kschaff@foothill.net> Subject: (mobility) Re: article in ap Date: 06 Apr 1997 10:24:18 -0700 Sinjin wrote: Brad Caviness wrote: > > I dreamed last night that I came home from work, turned on the news and > they said Moby was dead. I remember dreaming either Kurt Loder or Tom > Brokaw saying drugs were suspected, possibly heroin, and thinking that > CAN'T be right. Then I started checking the list and the net for more info, > but everyone was busy saying how much they *loved* him ("Alas, poor Urich. > I knew him well."), but no one was saying what I wanted to hear: that it > wasn't true. That he wasn't just some minor pop figure who was now going to > be a "legend" just because he was dead. I remeber crying and falling down > in the snow and pounding on the ice (it was winter) but no one understood > why. And I remember being glad that I just bought some rarities before this > happened and then feeling guilty afterwards. > > Has anyone else ever had a dream like this? > > Brad S. Caviness > bigwig@agora.ualr.edu fraid not. :) and its Yorick. :) and did anyone see the article in AP with moby and glenn danzig? Sinjin I'm working on the article right now. I just sent in my subscription to this mag.Do you think it's worth it? keri ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" <hypcadet@spectranet.ca> Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year? Date: 06 Apr 1997 13:21:56 -0700 > 1. Daft Punk - Homework You really like this? I was kind of dissapointed-there's only 3 or 4 really good song on it I thought. That "Teacher" song has *got* to go... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MOBYchild@aol.com Subject: (mobility) why messages repeat! Date: 06 Apr 1997 13:34:14 -0400 (EDT) ok...i bet i am saying this and everyone else knows it and i am sounding like an arse, but i just realised why i get 2 or 3 of the same message. when the message is sent to Mobility@mail.xmission.com if the address appears again in the CC area of it, then 2 (or however many times the name appears) messages are going to be sent. i dont know if this has anything to do with ones local ISP, but if this can be avoided i think we would all be a bit happier. sorry for bringing this up again, but i really do get tired of seeing my mailbox full of repeat messages. the renegade robot Liam of the cosmos and beyond (i'm sorry, i'm on AOL...i *really* dont know much about ISPs) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keri schaeffer <kschaff@foothill.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year Date: 06 Apr 1997 10:31:33 -0700 Sinjin wrote: even if this DOES piss off Der Fuhrer, im going to finish what i started. my picks so far: 1: Starflyer 59 "americana" 2:U2 "pop" 3:the forthcoming Circle Of Dust "disengage" 4:Joy Electric "old wives tales" 5:Luxury "the latest and the greatest" please not that animal right is NOT on here. sorry gang. i thought it sucked. i had it for a week and gave it to my best friend. and please dont spam me with "well youre not being open to change, youre not giving his new sound a chance." i havent even HEARD any of moby's old stuff. i have zero idea what his electronic music sounds like. im just basing this assertion off the strength of a genuine analysis of the album. he does have some pretty slick tone on his git-fiddle tho. :) Sinjin Don't give a shit what people think. I don't think "earthing" wasn't that great and I do think" Pop" is excellent. I'll tell you what I think of Depeche Modes' when I buy it on tuesday.By the way I got this three CD "Ultimate Club Mix "at Target yesterday and believe it or not it's pretty good. keri ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keri schaeffer <kschaff@foothill.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year Date: 06 Apr 1997 10:31:33 -0700 Sinjin wrote: even if this DOES piss off Der Fuhrer, im going to finish what i started. my picks so far: 1: Starflyer 59 "americana" 2:U2 "pop" 3:the forthcoming Circle Of Dust "disengage" 4:Joy Electric "old wives tales" 5:Luxury "the latest and the greatest" please not that animal right is NOT on here. sorry gang. i thought it sucked. i had it for a week and gave it to my best friend. and please dont spam me with "well youre not being open to change, youre not giving his new sound a chance." i havent even HEARD any of moby's old stuff. i have zero idea what his electronic music sounds like. im just basing this assertion off the strength of a genuine analysis of the album. he does have some pretty slick tone on his git-fiddle tho. :) Sinjin Don't give a shit what people think. I don't think "earthing" wasn't that great and I do think" Pop" is excellent. I'll tell you what I think of Depeche Modes' when I buy it on tuesday.By the way I got this three CD "Ultimate Club Mix "at Target yesterday and believe it or not it's pretty good. keri ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keri schaeffer <kschaff@foothill.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year Date: 06 Apr 1997 10:33:09 -0700 Sinjin wrote: even if this DOES piss off Der Fuhrer, im going to finish what i started. my picks so far: 1: Starflyer 59 "americana" 2:U2 "pop" 3:the forthcoming Circle Of Dust "disengage" 4:Joy Electric "old wives tales" 5:Luxury "the latest and the greatest" please not that animal right is NOT on here. sorry gang. i thought it sucked. i had it for a week and gave it to my best friend. and please dont spam me with "well youre not being open to change, youre not giving his new sound a chance." i havent even HEARD any of moby's old stuff. i have zero idea what his electronic music sounds like. im just basing this assertion off the strength of a genuine analysis of the album. he does have some pretty slick tone on his git-fiddle tho. :) Sinjin Don't give a shit what people think. I don't think "earthing" wasn't that great and I do think" Pop" is excellent. I'll tell you what I think of Depeche Modes' when I buy it on tuesday.By the way I got this three CD "Ultimate Club Mix "at Target yesterday and believe it or not it's pretty good. keri ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keri schaeffer <kschaff@foothill.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year Date: 06 Apr 1997 10:33:09 -0700 Sinjin wrote: even if this DOES piss off Der Fuhrer, im going to finish what i started. my picks so far: 1: Starflyer 59 "americana" 2:U2 "pop" 3:the forthcoming Circle Of Dust "disengage" 4:Joy Electric "old wives tales" 5:Luxury "the latest and the greatest" please not that animal right is NOT on here. sorry gang. i thought it sucked. i had it for a week and gave it to my best friend. and please dont spam me with "well youre not being open to change, youre not giving his new sound a chance." i havent even HEARD any of moby's old stuff. i have zero idea what his electronic music sounds like. im just basing this assertion off the strength of a genuine analysis of the album. he does have some pretty slick tone on his git-fiddle tho. :) Sinjin Don't give a shit what people think. I don't think "earthing" wasn't that great and I do think" Pop" is excellent. I'll tell you what I think of Depeche Modes' when I buy it on tuesday.By the way I got this three CD "Ultimate Club Mix "at Target yesterday and believe it or not it's pretty good. keri ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric M. Goldberg" <gold@bridge.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) why messages repeat! Date: 06 Apr 1997 13:46:15 -0500 Yeah its most likely something about the CC.. I dont want to put anyone to blame but if you put the same address in the CC (Carbon Copy) then that address will get it twice.. So hopefully everyone (im not singling out anyone) understands and we can get back to normal.. But even if you see two messages dont worry just hit delete, Ive learned that a loooong time ago. Eric - Eric M. Goldberg gold@bridge.net Music Box Homepage http://www.bridge.net/~gold/mb/mb.htm "There are only two kinds of music. Good and the other kind." Duke Ellington - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year Date: 06 Apr 1997 13:47:08 -0400 .xAQ_ wrote: > > On Sun, 6 Apr 1997, Sinjin wrote: > > > his new sound a chance." i havent even HEARD any of moby's old stuff. i > > have zero idea what his electronic music sounds like. im just basing > > um...what? if you've never heard any of his "electronic" stuff, and don't > like AR, why are you here? i thought this was a list for moby fans... > -xaq- > the shack of xaq-103.3fm KUMD-tuesdays 10pm-trance/happy hardcore/dance > "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." > "are ya done squeezing me yet?" <-ranma 1/2-> <-moby-> > "women love all that rubber." <-some guy on red green-> i got on here a few days be4 i bought AR, after i had only heard it in the store. im on here still because im an american and have the right to be, aside from the fact that the collective knowledge of people on this list about electronic music is important to me..and the fact that i find moby intensely interesting and am interested in hearing about him. have i gained your permission to post here now? Sinjin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year Date: 06 Apr 1997 13:47:08 -0400 .xAQ_ wrote: > > On Sun, 6 Apr 1997, Sinjin wrote: > > > his new sound a chance." i havent even HEARD any of moby's old stuff. i > > have zero idea what his electronic music sounds like. im just basing > > um...what? if you've never heard any of his "electronic" stuff, and don't > like AR, why are you here? i thought this was a list for moby fans... > -xaq- > the shack of xaq-103.3fm KUMD-tuesdays 10pm-trance/happy hardcore/dance > "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." > "are ya done squeezing me yet?" <-ranma 1/2-> <-moby-> > "women love all that rubber." <-some guy on red green-> i got on here a few days be4 i bought AR, after i had only heard it in the store. im on here still because im an american and have the right to be, aside from the fact that the collective knowledge of people on this list about electronic music is important to me..and the fact that i find moby intensely interesting and am interested in hearing about him. have i gained your permission to post here now? Sinjin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: article in ap Date: 06 Apr 1997 13:49:00 -0400 keri schaeffer wrote: > > Sinjin wrote: > > Brad Caviness wrote: > > > > I dreamed last night that I came home from work, turned on the > news and > > they said Moby was dead. I remember dreaming either Kurt Loder or > Tom > > Brokaw saying drugs were suspected, possibly heroin, and thinking > that > > CAN'T be right. Then I started checking the list and the net for > more info, > > but everyone was busy saying how much they *loved* him ("Alas, > poor Urich. > > I knew him well."), but no one was saying what I wanted to hear: > that it > > wasn't true. That he wasn't just some minor pop figure who was now > going to > > be a "legend" just because he was dead. I remeber crying and > falling down > > in the snow and pounding on the ice (it was winter) but no one > understood > > why. And I remember being glad that I just bought some rarities > before this > > happened and then feeling guilty afterwards. > > > > Has anyone else ever had a dream like this? > > > > Brad S. Caviness > > bigwig@agora.ualr.edu > fraid not. :) and its Yorick. :) and did anyone see the article in > AP > with moby and glenn danzig? > > Sinjin > > I'm working on the article right now. I just sent in my subscription to > this mag.Do you think it's worth it? keri ap seems pretty reputable..plus if youre looking for info on the mobyster, i dont think many more big magazines would have more info on him. Sinjin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) why messages repeat! Date: 06 Apr 1997 13:51:12 -0400 MOBYchild@aol.com wrote: > > ok...i bet i am saying this and everyone else knows it and i am sounding like > an arse, but i just realised why i get 2 or 3 of the same message. when the > message is sent to Mobility@mail.xmission.com if the address appears again in > the CC area of it, then 2 (or however many times the name appears) messages > are going to be sent. i dont know if this has anything to do with ones local > ISP, but if this can be avoided i think we would all be a bit happier. > > sorry for bringing this up again, but i really do get tired of seeing my > mailbox full of repeat messages. > > the renegade robot > Liam of the cosmos and beyond > > (i'm sorry, i'm on AOL...i *really* dont know much about ISPs) thanks to your message and to mister Goldbergs message i finally figured out why i keep repeating messages..it aint the isp..its because im using netscape mail and im hitting reply all when apparently all thats necessary is just normal average joe plebeian reply. Sinjin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year Date: 06 Apr 1997 13:52:47 -0400 keri schaeffer wrote: > > > Don't give a shit what people think. I don't think "earthing" wasn't > that great and I do think" Pop" is excellent. I'll tell you what I think > of Depeche Modes' when I buy it on tuesday.By the way I got this three > CD "Ultimate Club Mix "at Target yesterday and believe it or not it's > pretty good. keri <in elvis voice> thank ya behbeh..thank ya very much :) Sinjin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "talk dirty to me" <mutton@jane.penn.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year Date: 06 Apr 1997 13:52:28 -0500 yep jerm ---------- : From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com> : To: mobility@mail.xmission.com : Cc: mobility@xmission.com : Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year : Date: Sunday, April 06, 1997 12:47 PM : : .xAQ_ wrote: : > : > On Sun, 6 Apr 1997, Sinjin wrote: : > : > > his new sound a chance." i havent even HEARD any of moby's old stuff. i : > > have zero idea what his electronic music sounds like. im just basing : > : > um...what? if you've never heard any of his "electronic" stuff, and don't : > like AR, why are you here? i thought this was a list for moby fans... : > -xaq- : > the shack of xaq-103.3fm KUMD-tuesdays 10pm-trance/happy hardcore/dance : > "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." : > "are ya done squeezing me yet?" <-ranma 1/2-> <-moby-> : > "women love all that rubber." <-some guy on red green-> : i got on here a few days be4 i bought AR, after i had only heard it in : the store. im on here still because im an american and have the right to : be, aside from the fact that the collective knowledge of people on this : list about electronic music is important to me..and the fact that i find : moby intensely interesting and am interested in hearing about him. have : i gained your permission to post here now? : : Sinjin : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keri schaeffer <kschaff@foothill.net> Subject: (mobility) i'm guilty as hell Date: 06 Apr 1997 11:01:20 -0700 i think i did the nasty deed..i'm using netscape 4. do i reply to "all",or do I reply to "sender"? help me please? i'm drowning! I still think "Pop"=album of year so far. I do love " animal rights" tho'.....a 1,000 pardons....hanging my head in california ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keri schaeffer <kschaff@foothill.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) why messages repeat! Date: 06 Apr 1997 11:05:15 -0700 Sinjin wrote: MOBYchild@aol.com wrote: > > ok...i bet i am saying this and everyone else knows it and i am sounding like > an arse, but i just realised why i get 2 or 3 of the same message. when the > message is sent to Mobility@mail.xmission.com if the address appears again in > the CC area of it, then 2 (or however many times the name appears) messages > are going to be sent. i dont know if this has anything to do with ones local > ISP, but if this can be avoided i think we would all be a bit happier. > > sorry for bringing this up again, but i really do get tired of seeing my > mailbox full of repeat messages. > > the renegade robot > Liam of the cosmos and beyond > > (i'm sorry, i'm on AOL...i *really* dont know much about ISPs) thanks to your message and to mister Goldbergs message i finally figured out why i keep repeating messages..it aint the isp..its because im using netscape mail and im hitting reply all when apparently all thats necessary is just normal average joe plebeian reply. Sinjin it's nice to be in such fine company.I use netscape and am replying to all and i think that's what did it. I'm guilty...keri ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss <eric_w@geocities.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) i'm guilty as hell Date: 06 Apr 1997 11:22:29 -0700 keri schaeffer wrote: > i think i did the nasty deed..i'm using netscape 4. do i reply to > "all",or do I reply to "sender"? I take it you are using Netscape Communicator Preview Release 2 (since the only people that have the final release are Netscape employees, which if you are an employee please write me privatly!) I too use Netscape Communicator P.R. dos. You want to "Reply To Sender" -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip "If you were god what would upset you more, bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss <eric_w@geocities.com> Subject: (mobility) STUPID QUESTIONS Date: 06 Apr 1997 11:31:03 -0700 I forgot who was doing it but since they havent done it in a while and the conversations on this list have turned to ISPs and other bands I assume command of the spaceship known as: STUPID MOBY QUESTIONS! This weeks mission: 1) If Moby were a lightbulb, how many watts would he be? okay seriously..: 1) If Moby suddonly turned all new-age on us, who do you think he would be the reincarnation of? 2) Ah! The apocolypse has come and electronic music is the only music! Suddonly the (fill in your country here) Postal Service decides to make a series of 8 techno artists, one being Moby.. name the other 7 (unfortunatly in the US you have to be dead for 15 years before you can have a stamp with your likeness on it) 3) A TV corporation decides Moby is perfect to star in a remake of a 60's or 70's TV show... name what TV show remake Moby would be in. there you go.. have fun -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip "If you were god what would upset you more, bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gfunk1138@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year? Date: 06 Apr 1997 14:35:55 -0400 (EDT) underworld - Second toughest in the Infants MOBY-Animal Rights the Aphex Twin - Richard D james David Bowie - earthling FSOL - dead cities that mine..kinda. they are in the order that i thought of them, but not really for preference... justin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss <eric_w@geocities.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) STUPID QUESTIONS Date: 06 Apr 1997 11:38:03 -0700 > 3) A TV corporation decides Moby is perfect to star in a remake of a > 60's or 70's TV show... name what TV show remake Moby would be in. personally I think a good Moby-cartoon in the style of scooby-doo or the harlem globetrotters would be excellent (proof: see the drawings of mooby in the Schoolhouse Rocks Rocks! CD) but lets see.. there could be the new brady bunch.. come on.. we could replace jans cry of: "marsha marsha marsha!" with "moby moby moby!".... lol.. Leave It To Moby!, The New Hawaii 5 0 ("Book em, Moby!").... peace out eric -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip "If you were god what would upset you more, bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keri schaeffer <kschaff@foothill.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) i'm guilty as hell Date: 06 Apr 1997 11:38:48 -0700 eric weiss wrote: keri schaeffer wrote: > i think i did the nasty deed..i'm using netscape 4. do i reply to > "all",or do I reply to "sender"? I take it you are using Netscape Communicator Preview Release 2 (since the only people that have the final release are Netscape employees, which if you are an employee please write me privatly!) I too use Netscape Communicator P.R. dos. You want to "Reply To Sender" -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip "If you were god what would upset you more, bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby i would love to be working for the free software,but alas i'm just a nerdettel. i think i'll buy this program though. i've never bought netscape before,but this version is awesome. i just wish i could figure out how to empty my trash.when i pull down file it's not an option. enough said. keri ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman <keen@webaccess.net> Subject: (mobility) www.moby.org Date: 06 Apr 1997 11:51:04 -0600 "The Ultimate Moby Page" is now located at http://www.moby.org/ The old Hyperreal address still works (the page hasn't moved), but this URL is easier to remember and quicker to type. Please update your links. Thanks! Daniel Cerman dcerman@nyx.net http://www.moby.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gfunk1138@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) STUPID QUESTIONS Date: 06 Apr 1997 14:55:06 -0400 (EDT) ah yes..the stupid questions mu favourite 1) If Moby suddonly turned all new-age on us, who do you think he would be the reincarnation of? probably Herman Melville. He got the name from hi, why not his soul? 2) Ah! The apocolypse has come and electronic music is the only music! Suddonly the (fill in your country here) Postal Service decides to make a series of 8 techno artists, one being Moby.. name the other 7 (unfortunatly in the US you have to be dead for 15 years before you can have a stamp with your likeness on it) 2 Aphex Twin (i know he's not american, theyll have to live with it though) 3 Darren Emerson 4 Alex Patterson 5 Paul & Phil Hartnoll 6 Goldie 7 Bjork 3) A TV corporation decides Moby is perfect to star in a remake of a 60's or 70's TV show... name what TV show remake Moby would be in. he'd be on the love boat...no particular reason, just because the love boat is pretty cool. oh well... justin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Himes <mrh160@psu.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) I had the strangest dream last night Date: 06 Apr 1997 15:17:38 -0400 At 01:04 PM 4/6/97 -0400, you wrote: >>Has anyone else ever had a dream like this? >because of that show, i've had similar dreams about moby. > Okay, I gotta admit, you guys are heads and shoulders above me as far being Moby nuts. For heaven sakes, you people have dreams about the man. :) Later, Trey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Himes <mrh160@psu.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) www.moby.org Date: 06 Apr 1997 15:26:33 -0400 At 11:51 AM 4/6/97 -0600, you wrote: >"The Ultimate Moby Page" is now located at http://www.moby.org/ > Oh wow. Now that's power. No one can stop us now. Mwuhahahah! Later, Trey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" <hypcadet@spectranet.ca> Subject: Re: (mobility) STUPID QUESTIONS Date: 06 Apr 1997 16:25:58 -0700 > 3) A TV corporation decides Moby is perfect to star in a remake of a > 60's or 70's TV show... name what TV show remake Moby would be in. Going a little too far back.... but he'd be a *great* Barney Fyfe... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Chim" <bchim@mustang.uwo.ca> Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year Date: 06 Apr 1997 16:31:46 +0000 > From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com> > Organization: Technoir Music > To: mobility@xmission.com > Subject: (mobility) album o' the year >please not that animal right is NOT on here. sorry gang. i thought it >sucked. i had it for a week and gave it to my best friend. and please Damn right AR sucks. Anyways, you don't have to own any Moby to be on this list. You can do what the hell you like. Besides, what better way to find out if an artist is the shit than to join a list? I generally criticize Moby on this list, which seems mighty unpopular here, with people that even DREAM about the guy on this list! I like most of his stuff, but I feel a mailing shouldn't just be about praise for an artist's work but criticm should also be just as common. I mean. if Moby makes something that sucks, then what's wrong with going out and saying it? Like I said, we should be able to do what the hell we like on this list(pertaining it is somewhat Moby related, I rather not have this thing be one of them meat market lists, if there are such things). Anyways, take care. Ben PS - Moby's pre-AR stuff kicks ass. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bluegirl <mlverma@odin.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year Date: 06 Apr 1997 16:37:22 -0500 (CDT) i DO like AR & pre AR stuff... but i dont think that there is anything wrong with not being super involved with Moby's work. i dont think that ppl need to be obsessed with, or even huge fans of Moby to be on this list. as long as you have an interest in him & his music... this list should welcome you. not everyone has the time or the money to buy every single & every rarity. & then some of us are too busy spending our money on Tori Amos singles... but thats another story. *----*bluegirl*--------------------* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MOBYchild@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) STUPID QUESTIONS Date: 06 Apr 1997 18:30:23 -0400 (EDT) ummm, first of all, 1000 watts...he is far too bright to be anything else... > 2) Ah! The apocolypse has come and electronic music is the only music! > Suddonly the US Postal Service decides to make > a series of 8 techno artists, one being Moby.. name the other 7 > (unfortunatly in the US you have to be dead for 15 years before you can > have a stamp with your likeness on it) LOL...the US makes techno artists...anyway, i get yer point 1 Alex Patterson 2 Bjork 3 Paul&phil hartnoll 4 Richie James 5 underworld 6 Fluke 8 Robert Miles NOT PRODIGY or the Chemical Brothers. > 3) A TV corporation decides Moby is perfect to star in a remake of a > 60's or 70's TV show... name what TV show remake Moby would be in. MORK AND Mindy...hell, who needs robin williams? hmm, that or "the brady bunch"...i think he deserves at least a fictitious normal family (tho who knows if he wanted that) feelin pretty good about solving a little bit of the REPEAT message fiasco (sp?) the renegade robot Liam of the cosmos and beyond ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MOBYchild@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year Date: 06 Apr 1997 18:41:10 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-04-06 13:49:02 EDT, you write: > > Don't give a shit what people think. I don't think "earthing" wasn't > that great and I do think" Pop" is excellent. I'll tell you what I think > of Depeche Modes' when I buy it on tuesday.By the way I got this three > CD "Ultimate Club Mix "at Target yesterday and believe it or not it's > pretty good. keri A) dont click on "reply to all" B) i dont remember anyone saying that anyone *had* to like AR or any moby to be on this list...i dont see why you all care about what we think and you all obviosly do cos you feel like posting about "ultimate club mix" and what cds you do and dont like...i am not here to flame you. mabye the AOL mail thing is holding up messages or NOONE said you had to like moby...AND i dont see how depeche modes cd relates to MOBY, by-and-by-the-way. C) lets face it, AR wasnt THE great album and most of us probably bought it cos it had MOBY on it...i'll admit that i did. but in 1997 (so far) i havent been impressed by too much. i am dissapointed by what some artists are putting out, moby included. it was a meteocre album in a time when horrible albums were being put out. sure, it was on my list of fave albums, but that doesnt mean it was considered a great album by me. <whew>--hope i didnt offend anyone with B...but it had to be said. the renegade robot ~L~otc&b ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vanishing Son" <vson@usa.net> Subject: (mobility) Re: Punctuation, kids! Punctuation! Date: 06 Apr 1997 16:55:24 Cherilyn <csymons@cougarnet.byu.edu> writes: > couldn't get to sleep, my moby-hating roommate had just left and was > going to be gone for an hour or so. i realized this was the perfect > oportunity to pop little idiot (_little idiot_ for you punctuation > freaks) into my cd player. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I've never heard of this album. What pseudonym did Moby release this under? vince / vanishing son / vson@usa.net / http://www.swcp.com/synth "Bother!" said Pooh, as Sub-Zero ripped his spine out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vanishing Son" <vson@usa.net> Subject: (mobility) Re: Punctuation, kids! Punctuation! Date: 06 Apr 1997 16:57:08 Cherilyn <csymons@cougarnet.byu.edu> writes: > couldn't get to sleep, my moby-hating roommate had just left and was > going to be gone for an hour or so. i realized this was the perfect > oportunity to pop little idiot (_little idiot_ for you punctuation > freaks) into my cd player. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I've never heard of this album. What pseudonym did Moby release this under? vince / vanishing son / vson@usa.net / http://www.swcp.com/synth "Bother!" said Pooh, as Sub-Zero ripped his spine out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Alexander W. Kourakos" <awk@awk.campus.vt.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: Punctuation, kids! Punctuation! Date: 06 Apr 1997 19:07:08 -0400 (EDT) Vanishing Son wrote: > > oportunity to pop little idiot (_little idiot_ for you punctuation > > freaks) into my cd player. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > I've never heard of this album. What pseudonym did Moby release this > under? It's the bonus disk that comes with some copies of Animal Rights. Good stuff. awk -- Alexander Kourakos awk@vt.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman <keen@webaccess.net> Subject: (mobility) Double Tap Date: 06 Apr 1997 16:33:01 -0600 Moby is scoring the music for "Double Tap". But it's just an HBO movie, so I guess it won't be too big of a deal... Daniel Cerman http://www.moby.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric M. Goldberg" <gold@bridge.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) Double Tap Date: 06 Apr 1997 19:49:10 -0500 At 04:33 PM 4/6/97 -0600, you wrote: >Moby is scoring the music for "Double Tap". But it's just an HBO movie, >so I guess it won't be too big of a deal... Not true or at least i hope so :) You see the movie has Heather Locklear.. and there have been a few good movies made by HBO... here are a few reasons.. Danny Elfman, you all proly know him as the Batman guy or Tim Burton film composer but he did an HBO film.. so for moby to be up in that rank in my book is good stuff.. HBO is rumored to have bought the Star Wars SEs for a special weekend showing.. Soooo that means HBO has a lot of money and um that means theyre paying moby alot???? well its good i think.. anyways i'll be watching it! Eric - Eric M. Goldberg gold@bridge.net Music Box Homepage http://www.bridge.net/~gold/mb/mb.htm "There are only two kinds of music. Good and the other kind." Duke Ellington - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss <eric_w@geocities.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Double Tap Date: 06 Apr 1997 17:02:03 -0700 another reason why its a big deal: HBO does put out soundtracks to their original movies... so we will have some new ambient-esqu (as in the genre, not the album) moby songs... yeah! -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip "If you were god what would upset you more, bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman <keen@webaccess.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) Double Tap Date: 06 Apr 1997 17:16:52 -0600 eric weiss wrote: > HBO does put out soundtracks to their original movies... so we will have > some new ambient-esqu (as in the genre, not the album) moby songs... > yeah! I stand corrected. That would be great to have more Moby albums coming out, under the guise of movie soundtracks. He can't release enough stuff to quench my thirst for music. :) BTW, IMHO "Oil 1" is the best technoey Moby song this side of EIW. ;) Daniel Cerman http://www.moby.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Born Slippy <cdperk@trib.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) I had the strangest dream last night Date: 06 Apr 1997 18:32:18 -0600 Well, my frined's dad has this recurring dream about "floating turds"..... >I dreamed last night that I came home from work, turned on the news and >they said Moby was dead. I remember dreaming either Kurt Loder or Tom >Brokaw saying drugs were suspected, possibly heroin, and thinking that >CAN'T be right. Then I started checking the list and the net for more info, >but everyone was busy saying how much they *loved* him ("Alas, poor Urich. >I knew him well."), but no one was saying what I wanted to hear: that it >wasn't true. That he wasn't just some minor pop figure who was now going to >be a "legend" just because he was dead. I remeber crying and falling down >in the snow and pounding on the ice (it was winter) but no one understood >why. And I remember being glad that I just bought some rarities before this >happened and then feeling guilty afterwards. > >Has anyone else ever had a dream like this? > >Brad S. Caviness >bigwig@agora.ualr.edu > > > _______ ________ _______ ____ /cdperk@trib.com ____ | _ \____ / | | | / ___| | | || | | | |/ ____| | | | / | |___| || |_| | |\ \____ | | | | | ___ || / | \______ \|____| | \__|_ | | || |\ \ | | | ____ \ |___| |____|| | \ \___| _______/ /| | \_______| |___| \___\ |________/ |____| <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> http://members.wbs.net/homepages/c/e/n/centralindustrial.html <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> There is not a teacher who can teach us anything new...he can only help us remember the things we always knew... <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> WE HAVE EXPLOSIVE! <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> That's when i reach for my revolver...that's when it all gets blown away... <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Born Slippy <cdperk@trib.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) STUPID QUESTIONS Date: 06 Apr 1997 18:53:33 -0600 >1) If Moby were a lightbulb, how many watts would he be? one of those ones with three different settings. >3) Ah! The apocolypse has come and electronic music is the only music! >Suddonly the (fill in your country here) Postal Service decides to make >a series of 8 techno artists, one being Moby.. name the other 7 >(unfortunatly in the US you have to be dead for 15 years before you can >have a stamp with your likeness on it) 1) The Prodigy 2) Goldie 3) Massive Attack 4) RDJ 5) DR Paterson 6) FSOL 7) Atari Teenage Riot (oh, btw if there are any ATR fans on this list, could you please e-mail me privately about them? I can't find their album where i live anywhere, and i would like to know more about the band) >3) A TV corporation decides Moby is perfect to star in a remake of a >60's or 70's TV show... name what TV show remake Moby would be in. I wasn't alive then so i don't know very many shows from that era, but i'd have to say "Kung-Fu". _______ ________ _______ ____ /cdperk@trib.com ____ | _ \____ / | | | / ___| | | || | | | |/ ____| | | | / | |___| || |_| | |\ \____ | | | | | ___ || / | \______ \|____| | \__|_ | | || |\ \ | | | ____ \ |___| |____|| | \ \___| _______/ /| | \_______| |___| \___\ |________/ |____| <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> http://members.wbs.net/homepages/c/e/n/centralindustrial.html <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> There is not a teacher who can teach us anything new...he can only help us remember the things we always knew... <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> WE HAVE EXPLOSIVE! <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> That's when i reach for my revolver...that's when it all gets blown away... <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ".xAQ_" <zbentz@d.umn.edu> Subject: (mobility) go ahead! Date: 06 Apr 1997 19:22:06 -0500 (CDT) to: sinjin (i think) i wasn't trying to crit-a-size your being here, i just couldn't understand why someone who knew nothing about moby would be here. just wondering... >8) and yes, i HOPE people crit-a-size moby here. if you don't question things, they'll never get better or go away. i don't want moby to go away, but he could always get better. (like making more dance!) the stamp question: 1.brian eno (duh!) 2.alex patterson 3.trent reznor (before you flame me for this, think of what he has done OTHER than his own music...) 4.liam howllet 5.2 unlimited 6.spice girls 7.republica and i think bjork is one of the WORST choices for the stamp. all she does is sleep with the most popular jungle/trip hop artist of the moment and put on one of the worst live shows i've ever been to. she's done NOTHING to advance the electro movement, unless you count leeching off of the REAL artists to get remixes done. i guess you can tell i don't like this girl. (and yet i have about 6 CD's of her) i wish i could think of something related to moby to talk about, but i can't... -xaq- the shack of xaq-103.3fm KUMD-tuesdays 10pm-trance/happy hardcore/dance "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." "are ya done squeezing me yet?" <-ranma 1/2-> <-moby-> "women love all that rubber." <-some guy on red green-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ".xAQ_" <zbentz@d.umn.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) Double Tap Date: 06 Apr 1997 19:25:30 -0500 (CDT) On Sun, 6 Apr 1997, Daniel Cerman wrote: > > BTW, IMHO "Oil 1" is the best technoey Moby song this side of EIW. ;) YES!! finally someone who likes this song as much as i do! i've played in on my raido show as much as possible (ok, so that's only twice) since it's release. -xaq- the shack of xaq-103.3fm KUMD-tuesdays 10pm-trance/happy hardcore/dance "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." "are ya done squeezing me yet?" <-ranma 1/2-> <-moby-> "women love all that rubber." <-some guy on red green-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVIESA@uwplatt.edu Subject: Re: (mobility) go ahead! Date: 06 Apr 1997 21:19:17 -0500 (CDT) xaq?!?!? you want the "spice girls" on a stamp????? why?!?!?!? besides, they are from england..... also, i think bjork is from iceland (pretty sure) not the US... i think for my choices would be (excuse me for not knowing the actual names of some of these artists...) --david bowie --prodigy --josh wink --ritchie hawtin (plastikman) --psykosonik --joey beltram (is he american?) --me??? :) (hopefully by the time the apocalypse is here, i will had already had by impact on the electronic scene...) andy "run, run, as fast as you can, you can't catch me, i'm the gingerbread man!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ".xAQ_" <zbentz@d.umn.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) go ahead! Date: 06 Apr 1997 21:25:01 -0500 (CDT) On Sun, 6 Apr 1997 DAVIESA@uwplatt.edu wrote: > xaq?!?!? > > you want the "spice girls" on a stamp????? why?!?!?!? it was a joke. along with some others i listed. > besides, they are from england..... as are these people you listed > --david bowie > --prodigy i wasn't really serious about mine. they were just the first things that came to mind... -xaq- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "andrew szymczyk" <trent@jane.penn.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) go ahead! Date: 06 Apr 1997 22:24:20 -0400 awesome, someone else finally gives props to wink. that's as dope as you can get. ---------- : From: DAVIESA@uwplatt.edu : To: mobility@mail.xmission.com : Subject: Re: (mobility) go ahead! : Date: Sunday, April 06, 1997 10:19 PM : : xaq?!?!? : : you want the "spice girls" on a stamp????? why?!?!?!? : : besides, they are from england..... : : also, i think bjork is from iceland (pretty sure) not the US... : : i think for my choices would be (excuse me for not knowing the actual names of : some of these artists...) : : --david bowie : --prodigy : --josh wink : --ritchie hawtin (plastikman) : --psykosonik : --joey beltram (is he american?) : --me??? :) (hopefully by the time the apocalypse is here, i will had already : had by impact on the electronic scene...) : : : andy : : "run, run, as fast as you can, : you can't catch me, i'm the gingerbread man!" : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bluegirl <mlverma@odin.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) go ahead! Date: 06 Apr 1997 21:47:19 -0500 (CDT) wink is cool! .....thats all 4 now *----*bluegirl*--------------------* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVIESA@uwplatt.edu Subject: Re: (mobility) go ahead! Date: 06 Apr 1997 22:01:03 -0500 (CDT) ok, so i was not sure where everyone was from.....let's just make a worldwide posatl service!!!! that would solve our probs!!! andy "run, run, as fast as you can, you can't catch me, i'm the gingerbread man!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Born Slippy <cdperk@trib.com> Subject: (mobility) STUPID QUESTION Date: 06 Apr 1997 21:49:15 -0600 actually, i changed my mind on who should be on the stamps 1)Kraftwerk 2)Juan Atkins & Derrick May 3)Prodigy 4)Massive Attack 5)Goldie 6)FSOL 7)RDJ _______ ________ _______ ____ /cdperk@trib.com ____ | _ \____ / | | | / ___| | | || | | | |/ ____| | | | / | |___| || |_| | |\ \____ | | | | | ___ || / | \______ \|____| | \__|_ | | || |\ \ | | | ____ \ |___| |____|| | \ \___| _______/ /| | \_______| |___| \___\ |________/ |____| <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> http://members.wbs.net/homepages/c/e/n/centralindustrial.html <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> There is not a teacher who can teach us anything new...he can only help us remember the things we always knew... <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> WE HAVE EXPLOSIVE! <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> That's when i reach for my revolver...that's when it all gets blown away... <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVIESA@uwplatt.edu Subject: (mobility) new cd & compilation Date: 06 Apr 1997 23:44:31 -0500 (CDT) this weekend i picked up the into the blue remixes (red cover). i had the single before and i just found this release. i love tracks 5&6 especially!!! also, (mostly for dan) i found and bought a compilation cd with a voodoo child track. "Hypnotic State" 1995 C&S Records, CS 8520-2 6. Demons--Voodoo Child this is a great compilation. i love all the tracks and especially demons. i had not heard it before and am glad i have found it...(circus bells by robert armani is sooooo cool.... :) andy "run, run, as fast as you can, you can't catch me, i'm the gingerbread man!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" <hypcadet@spectranet.ca> Subject: Re: (mobility) go ahead! Date: 07 Apr 1997 01:00:41 -0700 > 3.trent reznor (before you flame me for this, think of what he has done > OTHER than his own music...) The man is amazing-He and Moby are easily the most talented people in the music business today, IMHO.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" <hypcadet@spectranet.ca> Subject: Re: (mobility) go ahead! Date: 07 Apr 1997 01:00:41 -0700 > 3.trent reznor (before you flame me for this, think of what he has done > OTHER than his own music...) The man is amazing-He and Moby are easily the most talented people in the music business today, IMHO.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anuranman <ryu97@twd.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) STUPID QUESTIONS Date: 07 Apr 1997 01:39:52 -0400 (EDT) >1) If Moby suddonly turned all new-age on us, who do you think he would >be the reincarnation of? sam kineson (sp?) >2) Ah! The apocolypse has come and electronic music is the only music! >Suddonly the (fill in your country here) Postal Service decides to make >a series of 8 techno artists, one being Moby.. name the other 7 >(unfortunatly in the US you have to be dead for 15 years before you can >have a stamp with your likeness on it) 1. lliam howlet (THE prodigy) 2. richard james (aphex twin) 3. chris howel (luna-c) 4. alec empire (atari teenage riot) 5. juan atkins (model 500) 6. acen (house crew, baby d, etc...) 7. axl rose (the wannabes) >3) A TV corporation decides Moby is perfect to star in a remake of a >60's or 70's TV show... name what TV show remake Moby would be in. "i love moby"....er, i mean "i love lucy" [yeah, i know i dream about him, but so what...] love, ryu 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 "Noise is the Key, life is full of noise, only death is quiet." "Personally, I don't take any drugs and have never tried any and therefore perhaps have an odd opinion about them; a man must destroy himself before he is destroyed by the system!" -Alec Empire- 77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777 Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: (mobility) STUPID QUESTIONS Date: 07 Apr 1997 00:19:18 -0500 MO>1) If Moby were a lightbulb, how many watts would he be? 1,000...duh! ;> MO>okay seriously..: Oh god..we have to be serious now? ;> MO>1) If Moby suddonly turned all new-age on us, who do you think he would MO>be the reincarnation of? Well..I'd like to say D.R. Goettel(He'll always be missed)..but since they were alive at the same time..ummm...Ghandi??? I dunno..come back to me on this one :) MO>2) Ah! The apocolypse has come and electronic music is the only music! MO>Suddonly the (fill in your country here) Postal Service decides to make MO>a series of 8 techno artists, one being Moby.. name the other 7 MO>(unfortunatly in the US you have to be dead for 15 years before you can MO>have a stamp with your likeness on it) hmmmmm(in no particular order): 2. 808 State 3. Meat Beat Manifesto 4. Download 5. KMFDM 6. Brainiac("who?!?!" you say??? Before I heard of em..friend described em as "Devo on acid"..it's a pretty good description..anyways..they aren't "pure" electronic..but they do use a moog..and distort their vocals..so that does count ;>) 7. FSOL 8. 2 Unlimited/Spice Girls/Real McCoy/Ace of Base/or any other cheesy techno band (now b4 you slam that choice..listen to my reasoning..I'd include them not because of their music..but because of the previous talent..the future would realize what "crap" this choice would be..and would never support anyone making this type of music ;> ) Note: This list could change in a second..that's why I hope this never happens :) MO>3) A TV corporation decides Moby is perfect to star in a remake of a MO>60's or 70's TV show... name what TV show remake Moby would be in. Hard one since I'm not really up on shows from this time period..but maybe Happy Days..Moby instead of the Fonz? :) Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Col <claird.ca2@CompApp.DCU.IE> Subject: (mobility) Top 5 albums Date: 07 Apr 1997 11:43:57 +0100 In no order : 1:> Moby 2:> Underworld 3:> Chemical Brothers 4:> Aphex Twin 5:> Wu Tang Clan (not out yet,but it'll be classic,I know it will!) By the way, I have an mpeg encoder,but it's only for mp1 and mp2 files. Is that any use to anyone?You could try searching his address for one : http://www.shareware.com/ It has absolutely everything there. Col. " I'm gonna knock you out, Momma said knock you out! " ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year Date: 07 Apr 1997 08:46:59 -0400 MOBYchild@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 97-04-06 13:49:02 EDT, you write: > > > > > Don't give a shit what people think. I don't think "earthing" wasn't > > that great and I do think" Pop" is excellent. I'll tell you what I think > > of Depeche Modes' when I buy it on tuesday.By the way I got this three > > CD "Ultimate Club Mix "at Target yesterday and believe it or not it's > > pretty good. keri > > A) dont click on "reply to all" > > B) i dont remember anyone saying that anyone *had* to like AR or any moby to > be on this list...i dont see why you all care about what we think and you all > obviosly do cos you feel like posting about "ultimate club mix" and what cds > you do and dont like...i am not here to flame you. mabye the AOL mail thing > is holding up messages or NOONE said you had to like moby...AND i dont see > how depeche modes cd relates to MOBY, by-and-by-the-way. > > C) lets face it, AR wasnt THE great album and most of us probably bought it > cos it had MOBY on it...i'll admit that i did. but in 1997 (so far) i havent > been impressed by too much. i am dissapointed by what some artists are > putting out, moby included. it was a meteocre album in a time when horrible > albums were being put out. sure, it was on my list of fave albums, but that > doesnt mean it was considered a great album by me. > > <whew>--hope i didnt offend anyone with B...but it had to be said. > > the renegade robot > ~L~otc&b have we lowered ourselves to pointing fingers and going on a "Crucible"-esque "Your honor, I fear that citizen A mentions subjects that do not contain the holy name of Moby. Perhaps he worships Satan?" witch hunt. sheesh. stop with the damn whining. and if you need a good album, Starflyer 59's "Americana" should hook you right up. Sinjin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) go ahead! Date: 07 Apr 1997 08:49:49 -0400 .xAQ_ wrote: > > to: sinjin (i think) > i wasn't trying to crit-a-size your being here, i just couldn't > understand why someone who knew nothing about moby would be here. just > wondering... >8) > and yes, i HOPE people crit-a-size moby here. if you don't question > things, they'll never get better or go away. i don't want moby to go > away, but he could always get better. (like making more dance!) > the stamp question: > 1.brian eno (duh!) > 2.alex patterson > 3.trent reznor (before you flame me for this, think of what he has done > OTHER than his own music...) > 4.liam howllet > 5.2 unlimited > 6.spice girls > 7.republica > > and i think bjork is one of the WORST choices for the stamp. all she does > is sleep with the most popular jungle/trip hop artist of the moment and > put on one of the worst live shows i've ever been to. she's done NOTHING > to advance the electro movement, unless you count leeching off of the > REAL artists to get remixes done. i guess you can tell i don't like this > girl. (and yet i have about 6 CD's of her) > i wish i could think of something related to moby to talk about, but i > can't... > -xaq- > the shack of xaq-103.3fm KUMD-tuesdays 10pm-trance/happy hardcore/dance > "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." > "are ya done squeezing me yet?" <-ranma 1/2-> <-moby-> > "women love all that rubber." <-some guy on red green-> <in tears b-cuz you said mean things about my new lover> heheheh :) i bjork is cute as all get out and i DO like her music so im standing by her. Sinjin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) STUPID QUESTION Date: 07 Apr 1997 08:52:52 -0400 Born Slippy wrote: > > actually, i changed my mind on who should be on the stamps > > 1)Kraftwerk > 2)Juan Atkins & Derrick May > 3)Prodigy > 4)Massive Attack > 5)Goldie > 6)FSOL > 7)RDJ > > _______ ________ _______ ____ > /cdperk@trib.com ____ | _ \____ / | | | > / ___| | | || | | | |/ ____| | | > | / | |___| || |_| | |\ \____ | | > | | | ___ || / | \______ \|____| > | \__|_ | | || |\ \ | | | ____ > \ |___| |____|| | \ \___| _______/ /| | > \_______| |___| \___\ |________/ |____| > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > http://members.wbs.net/homepages/c/e/n/centralindustrial.html > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > There is not a teacher who can teach us anything new...he can > only help us remember the things we always knew... > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > WE HAVE EXPLOSIVE! > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > That's when i reach for my revolver...that's when it all gets > blown away... > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> awwww yah....Kraftwerk is a great choice mein freund :) Sinjin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) go ahead! Date: 07 Apr 1997 08:56:20 -0400 Hypecadet wrote: > > > 3.trent reznor (before you flame me for this, think of what he has done > > OTHER than his own music...) > > The man is amazing-He and Moby are easily the most talented people in the > music business today, IMHO.... actually ill tell you who the two most talented people in this bizness are..Jyro Xhan and Jerome Fontemillas of Fold Zandura <formerly mortal> you will never find two more diversely talented musicians EVER that not only have the skills, they have the GIFT. you all know the difference im sure. :) the really skilled composition major who pays their dues but just never makes it big and cant figure out why vs. the creative genius that things just COME to..the gift. :) these guys have it. :) Sinjin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss <eric_w@geocities.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) go ahead! Date: 07 Apr 1997 06:07:19 -0700 woah.. how can you critize people for putting bjork down and then you include: > 5.2 unlimited > 6.spice girls > 7.republica what the hell have these people done for electronic music? -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip "If you were god what would upset you more, bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Col <claird.ca2@CompApp.DCU.IE> Subject: Re: (mobility) go ahead! Date: 07 Apr 1997 14:20:38 +0100 >> 5.2 unlimited >> 6.spice girls >> 7.republica > >what the hell have these people done for electronic music? That's a dangerous line you are stepping on there. I would have always said that 2 unlimited were one of the first bands that made electronic music popular in the mainstream.Remember "No Limits"? They had a string of no.1s and although looking back on it now,they were really crap,people didn't think that back then. I don't think that they should be on a stamp myself at all,but they did make their contribution to popularising dance music. Just my opinion though. Col. " I'm gonna knock you out, Momma said knock you out! " ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Stegenga <steg@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) STUPID QUESTIONS Date: 07 Apr 1997 09:14:13 -0500 > 1) If Moby suddonly turned all new-age on us, who do you think he would > be the reincarnation of? Marshall Herff Applewhite (aka "Do" of the Heaven's Gate cult.) > 2) Ah! The apocolypse has come and electronic music is the only music! > Suddonly the (fill in your country here) Postal Service decides to make > a series of 8 techno artists, one being Moby.. name the other 7 > (unfortunatly in the US you have to be dead for 15 years before you can > have a stamp with your likeness on it) 2. Afrika Bambaata 3. Grandmaster Flash 4. Mike Oldfield 5. Richard James 6. Vince Clarke 7. Gary Numan > 3) A TV corporation decides Moby is perfect to star in a remake of a > 60's or 70's TV show... name what TV show remake Moby would be in. Lost in Space as Dr Smith. "Oh The Pain...!" Scott Steg ----- "Come off crisp and play up to the cynic." -- Helmet ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Stegenga <steg@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year? Date: 07 Apr 1997 10:58:24 -0500 >> 1. Daft Punk - Homework > >You really like this? I was kind of dissapointed-there's only 3 or 4 >really good song on it I thought. That "Teacher" song has *got* to go... > I think Daft Punk are quite good actually...their blend of techno and disco styles really impressed me...and I really hate disco. "Rollin and Scratchin" and "Rock and Roll" are excellent trax. My guess is that their popularity will not be big because of the already ensuing "pre-hype" of The Chemical Brothers and The Prodigy. I've never been so innundated with the "upcoming stars" hype as these two groups have had. Now don't get me wrong, they are great bands (I have Both current Prodigy CD's and the Chem's CD), but isn't this whole "electronica is the new alternative" hype just a bit too much these days? MTV has jumped on the bandwagon, Rolling Stone, and the list goes on. They make it look like some sort of "new movement" when its been around for quite a while. Kind of like when athletic shoe companies announced the new, revolutionary "walking shoe" when man has been walking since the beginning of time. But trust me...there will be people jumping on the "techno/electronica" bandwagon this year with not an ounce of techno knowledge in them. Too bad... Scott Steg ----- "Come off crisp and play up to the cynic." -- Helmet ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" <hypcadet@spectranet.ca> Subject: Re: (mobility) go ahead! Date: 07 Apr 1997 12:17:59 -0700 > are..Jyro Xhan and Jerome Fontemillas of Fold Zandura <formerly mortal> I've never heard of either of these guys-what do they do? (ie. classical compositions etc.?) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" <hypcadet@spectranet.ca> Subject: Re: (mobility) STUPID QUESTIONS Date: 07 Apr 1997 12:11:01 -0700 > "i love moby"....er, i mean "i love lucy" > [yeah, i know i dream about him, but so what...] I like it ;) "HEEEEY MOOOOBIIIIEEEEE, I'm HOOOOOOME!!!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" <hypcadet@spectranet.ca> Subject: Re: (mobility) STUPID QUESTIONS Date: 07 Apr 1997 12:13:07 -0700 > MO>1) If Moby suddonly turned all new-age on us, who do you think he would > MO>be the reincarnation of? > Well..I'd like to say D.R. Goettel(He'll always be missed)..but since Off the Moby topic for a moment.... Have you picked up Paradigm Shift by chance? It's got a couple tracks from ADuck (Goettel's *other* side project)-they're great.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vince Varkey <varkey@utdallas.edu> Subject: (mobility) Re: revolver Date: 07 Apr 1997 12:36:19 -0500 (CDT) Could anyone get me a copy of the Revolver single with the track from Heat on it? I simply can't find it anywhere, and it wasn't on CDNow or anything like that. Anyway, any help would be appreciated. -vince ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Stegenga <steg@ix.netcom.com> Subject: (mobility) James Bond Date: 07 Apr 1997 12:48:07 -0500 I was reading this article on Rolling Stone online about Moby producing the new Guns 'n Roses album: http://www.rollingstone.com/RandomNotesNewsItem.phtml?id=244 And found out Moby is also re-working the 007 theme for the next James Bond film, "Tomorrow Never Dies". This is way cool, being an avid James Bond fan myself. Any replies confirming or denying what I have just posted? Let's see... Scott Steg ----- "Come off crisp and play up to the cynic." -- Helmet ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Liquidrae@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) go ahead! Date: 07 Apr 1997 14:36:05 -0400 (EDT) hi :) Does anyone have any MOBY VIDEOS or Josh Wink VIDEOS?? im interested in finding some.. thanks a bunch:) Also i just wanted to remind y'all that on the 19 of this month im going to see Moby live...:) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" <hypcadet@spectranet.ca> Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year? Date: 07 Apr 1997 14:40:14 -0700 > But trust me...there will be people jumping on the "techno/electronica" > bandwagon this year with not an ounce of techno knowledge in them. Too bad... > Scott Steg Hmmm.....Eric Clapton, Depeche Mode, U2....etc. Don't get me wrong-I've nothing major against these artists but they've been hyped as jumping on the electro-dance-techno-rave-jungle-drum 'n'bass-ambient-progressive-house-dub SUPER CHAMPIONSHIP EDITION whatever bandwagon.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ".xAQ_" <zbentz@d.umn.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) go ahead! Date: 07 Apr 1997 13:57:13 -0500 (CDT) On Mon, 7 Apr 1997, eric weiss wrote: > woah.. how can you critize people for putting bjork down and then you > include: > > > 5.2 unlimited > > 6.spice girls > > 7.republica > > what the hell have these people done for electronic music? um...that's the joke...? -xaq- (i had a feeling some people wouldn't get it...) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bluegirl <mlverma@odin.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) go ahead! Date: 07 Apr 1997 14:03:39 -0500 (CDT) On Mon, 7 Apr 1997 Liquidrae@aol.com wrote: > hi :) Does anyone have any MOBY VIDEOS or Josh Wink VIDEOS?? im interested > in finding some.. thanks a bunch:) Also i just wanted to remind y'all that > on the 19 of this month im going to see Moby live...:) > i do... i taped some off of TV... one of the Wink vidios that i have is really bitchin'.... so if you are interested in seeing any JW videos look on AMP sometime... that show tends to play him... its has some cool videos from time to time. *----*bluegirl*-------------------------------------* *-"You get what everybody gets, you get a lifetime"-* *------------------|Death|--------------------------* ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bluegirl <mlverma@odin.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: (mobility) Eric Clapton going techno??? Date: 07 Apr 1997 14:06:22 -0500 (CDT) no way.... really? how frightening is that some sort of joke... or has that really been hyped? *----*bluegirl*-------------------------------------* *-"You get what everybody gets, you get a lifetime"-* *------------------|Death|--------------------------* ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: matthew james smith <mjsmith@students.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) James Bond Date: 07 Apr 1997 15:01:56 -0500 (CDT) I am just confirming what Scott said about Moby and The James Bond Theme...mjs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) go ahead! Date: 07 Apr 1997 16:18:02 -0400 eric weiss wrote: > > woah.. how can you critize people for putting bjork down and then you > include: > > > 5.2 unlimited > > 6.spice girls > > 7.republica > > what the hell have these people done for electronic music? > > -- > Eric Weiss > Epicentre Productions > > eric_w@geocities.com > http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ > http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html > http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip > > "If you were god what would upset you more, > bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of > healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby that wasnt me gringo...i HATE spice girls, HATE republica, and havent heard the other. pay attention to the sender. -- GIF89a ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) go ahead! Date: 07 Apr 1997 16:26:10 -0400 Hypecadet wrote: > > > are..Jyro Xhan and Jerome Fontemillas of Fold Zandura <formerly mortal> > > I've never heard of either of these guys-what do they do? (ie. classical > compositions etc.?) well..they started as a quasi-industrial band, shifted over to their own style-"hypersoul"..more or less happy dance metal :)..then went to rock..then to ambient techno..then to what could almost be considered jungle..then back to this wierd elektro rock hybrid..where the sample msot of the guitars but keep live drums and vox and wierd keyboard effects...and the lyrics are top notch too. :) brutha Jyro can write up a storm. :) Sinjin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year? Date: 07 Apr 1997 16:28:00 -0400 Hypecadet wrote: > > > But trust me...there will be people jumping on the "techno/electronica" > > bandwagon this year with not an ounce of techno knowledge in them. Too > bad... > > Scott Steg > > Hmmm.....Eric Clapton, Depeche Mode, U2....etc. > > Don't get me wrong-I've nothing major against these artists but they've > been hyped as jumping on the electro-dance-techno-rave-jungle-drum > 'n'bass-ambient-progressive-house-dub SUPER CHAMPIONSHIP EDITION whatever > bandwagon.... <cheering> WOOOHOO! street fighter 2 eric clapton edition..hyper fighting!!! bono vs. clapton! martin whatsisname vs. the edge! :) Sinjin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com> Subject: (mobility) heres a thought.. Date: 07 Apr 1997 16:29:29 -0400 since were doing moby crossovers..whattya think about moby and jawbox? that would get my attention in short order :) Sinjin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) new cd & compilation Date: 07 Apr 1997 18:36:54 -0400 (EDT) where did you get the into the blue remixes and the compilation? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVIESA@uwplatt.edu Subject: Re: (mobility) new cd & compilation Date: 07 Apr 1997 18:20:16 -0500 (CDT) i got the into the blues remixes and the compilation at the mall of america, first and third floor, respectively, sam goody stores. went on a little road trip this weekend.... andy "run, run, as fast as you can, you can't catch me, i'm the gingerbread man!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: danperry@execpc.com Subject: (mobility) Underwater Date: 07 Apr 1997 18:40:34 -0500 (CDT) i would like to apologize to all the people who like underwater for ever saying 'i just can't get into it'. i'm listening to it right now and finally paying attention to it, and i think it's really good! i think i still like hymn.alt.quiet.version better, but underwater definately has some good qualities. now before everyone asks, underwater came with the limited edition version of Everything is Wrong as part of a 2xCD set with the normal album on the first disc and underwater (parts 1 - 5) on the second CD. seeyuz! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brad Caviness" <bigwig@agora.ualr.edu> Subject: (mobility) Paradigm Shift Date: 07 Apr 1997 18:52:02 -0500 ---------- > From: Hypecadet > > Have you picked up Paradigm Shift by chance? It's got a couple tracks from > ADuck (Goettel's *other* side project)-they're great.... > Yes, and Yes. I love P-Shift. I've been bugging Daniel for months to check them out. A great dance outfit that puts their hooks in the melody rather than in drum loops and samples. Honest to goodness musicians. The music takes a bit to grab you, but when it does you're hooked to the core. And an aside to Sinjin: Xhan and Fontamillas from Mortal also did a straight techno record with their cousins Peralta and Fontamillas from Erin Fall (f/k/a Mindbender, f/k/a Psycho Lizards) called Jyradelix. It's a great, great techno record that still sounds current five years later. BSC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: (mobility) Please Help Date: 07 Apr 1997 18:40:16 -0500 Now this isn't a bitching session..but I just want to remind people that once a post turns away from Moby..that maybe it's time to take it private..Now I realize I'm not one to preach(since I'm guility of posting non-Moby stuff)..but after going thru my email today..and going thru the Moby ML posts (1/2 to 3/4's of it seemed to deal w/ things other than Moby)..I just wanted to post a friendly reminder to ppl...Think before you post..please :) Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm P.S. If you want to put this post in a Moby context..the more time I have to go thru my email..the more time I spend on the computer..which means the more time I use electricity..which means the local hyrdoelectric dams have to keep those turbines spinning..which adds up to the chances of certain species of fish not surviving..I'm sure Moby wouldn't be happy w/ this :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MOBYchild@aol.com Subject: (mobility) no more repeats (the *other* reason mail is weird) Date: 06 Apr 1997 20:41:32 -0400 (EDT) ok...this one i think will eliminate all repeat messages! A) dont click on reply to all (alredy said) B) send mail to mobility@mail.xmission.com --NOT mobility@xmission.com (be sure to put the word "mail" after the "@" (at) sign) thx...i think this should do it... the renegade robot Liam of the cosmos and beyond ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Tucker <synthmaniac@rmci.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) go ahead! Date: 07 Apr 1997 22:23:45 -0600 At 02:36 PM 4/7/97 -0400, you wrote: >hi :) Does anyone have any MOBY VIDEOS or Josh Wink VIDEOS?? im interested >in finding some.. thanks a bunch:) Also i just wanted to remind y'all that >on the 19 of this month im going to see Moby live...:) > I have two... contact me at paulmtucker@juno.com P.S. Never tell anyone that you are going to see him live. All we ever do is bitch and complain about those who get to go see him. WHHHHAAAAAHHHHH!!!! :( Are you going to tape via camcorder? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Tucker <synthmaniac@rmci.net> Subject: (mobility) Moby orders Date: 07 Apr 1997 22:24:22 -0600 All those who have sent me their $$$$, your orders should have your orders by this Friday at the latest. I received 3 checks yesterday and 1 today. All four will go out tomorrow. I will send an updated list after all orders have been processed. NEW EMAIL ADDRESS Please remove synthmaniac@rmci.net Please add paulmtucker@juno.com Thanks If you haven't sent me your payment, please get with me asap so I can still reserve the items for you. Thanks so much!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keri schaeffer <kschaff@foothill.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year?Animal Rights or POP Date: 05 Apr 1997 07:33:48 -0800 Sinjin wrote: ok gang..were almost a third of the way thru the year and i dare say its time to express a little opinion on the music thrown to us this year. so, everyone all together now, what are your top 5 picks for album of the year so far? Rosencrantz and Sinjinstern are dead. Dear Sinjin, I would have to say it would have to be "Animal Rights" or U2 "POP." Has the new album from Depeche Mode come out yet? I will go to the store today and get it, otherwise I'm going to the bookstore. Keri ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Paradigm Shift Date: 08 Apr 1997 08:37:25 -0400 yahBrad Caviness wrote: > > ---------- > > From: Hypecadet > > > > Have you picked up Paradigm Shift by chance? It's got a couple tracks > from > > ADuck (Goettel's *other* side project)-they're great.... > > > Yes, and Yes. I love P-Shift. I've been bugging Daniel for months to check > them out. A great dance outfit that puts their hooks in the melody rather > than in drum loops and samples. Honest to goodness musicians. The music > takes a bit to grab you, but when it does you're hooked to the core. > > And an aside to Sinjin: Xhan and Fontamillas from Mortal also did a > straight techno record with their cousins Peralta and Fontamillas from Erin > Fall (f/k/a Mindbender, f/k/a Psycho Lizards) called Jyradelix. It's a > great, great techno record that still sounds current five years later. > > BSC ive been emaning to get jyradelix but i havent seen it in quite a while..wowo..i didnt know it was a collaboration..thot it was just jerome. cool. :) Sinjin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: owner-mobility@xmission.com Date: 08 Apr 1997 09:23:38 -0600 > *** The following email bounced. > *** Cause: Old unsubscribed email address used. > *** The following was not tampered with in any way. Sender: owner-mobility@xmission.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mobility Would love to create a seperate list with the gang who enjoy "Christian" music. I just got the following in and wondered if anyone else has heard them. Late Late Service 3,4 S'Dance Synergy IKON Normal Generation November Commandment Re: Fresh Spin Also enjoy Rainbow Rider, Joy Electric, Dance House Children, Hydro, Virus, etc... Has anyone heard of RULE OF FAITH? Has anyone heard 100% Industrial Strength off of NSOUL? Also, would like to discuss how some CCM magazines put Moby in with the CCM area of music as well as some mainstream magazines. Did anyone read the Details article awhile back featuring Jars of Clay and other Christian artists etc... Also, has anyone read the articles on Moby in Syndicate or Noteboard? Thanks... NEW EMAIL ADDRESS Please remove synthmaniac@rmci.net Please add paulmtucker@juno.com Thanks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eekmaus@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Where is all the love Date: 08 Apr 1997 14:01:49 -0400 (EDT) Hi I am Jenny from Michigan. I've only written once, you may not recall because I wasn't quoting anyone or bashing people. I told about my little Moby encounter in the rain two or three years ago...but I digress. ...and I thought I was obsessive about Moby (none of my friends have even heard of him and give me a blank stare when I go on and on about how I like his stuff). But it is nice to see that I only have a mild case of Moby. I have yet to buy the Animal Rights album...I got the single Come on Baby before AR was released and one of my "punk" rock buddies really dug some of the tunes. Actually the last Moby thing I bought was a 12" single....oh what was it called? "Every Time You Touch Me" which I like...I also have the Hymn single on Vinyl which is pretty darn good as well. Does anyone have the Mixmag live CD featuring Moby and Sven Vath? That Sven character is pretty trippy. And who was it that said The ambient stuff Moby does that wasn't on the Ambient CD? I agree. well nothing too exciting to say but I just wanted to contribute. Thanks for you time. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "." <mazda@pp.qnet.fi> Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year? Date: 08 Apr 1997 20:55:12 -0700 My favorites ( so far ) for the first quarter of year 1997. 1. Nemesis - Evolution <- Both Finnish. Suberb ambient if i might say. 2. Panasonic - Kulma <- 3. Apollo 440 - Electro glide'n blue 4. Orb - Orblivion 5. < still open > - mm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samu Heinonen <samuhei@dlc.fi> Subject: (mobility) Mp3 Date: 08 Apr 1997 21:51:25 +0300 (EDT) i was wondering if anyone has about 200 mbs of free space to net.. i need it. because i am thinking to start maintain mp3 site with some rare techno songs from artists like Moby, The Prodigy and i also would like put some rare finnish techno to in it. i am only dreaming , but anyway.. =) +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ | Samu | | Heinonen | | e-mail:samuhei@dlc.fi | | Finland | | http://www.dlc.fi/~samuhei | +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Himes <mrh160@psu.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) Mp3 Date: 08 Apr 1997 15:06:59 -0400 At 09:51 PM 4/8/97 +0300, you wrote: >i was wondering if anyone has about 200 mbs of free space to net.. i need >it. because i am thinking to start maintain mp3 site with some rare techno >songs from artists like Moby, The Prodigy and i also would like put some >rare finnish techno to in it. i am only dreaming , but anyway.. =) Samu, what do you want to do? I already have a collection of my own and I have an ethernet connection and ftp server that I can run. I don't have much free space, but I can fix that real fast ;-). I could try to run a moby ftp site if people could send me the files. Later, Matt Himes aka: _______________ ___________ __________ ___ ___ /_____ _____/| / _____ /| / _______/| / /| / /| |____/ /|_____|/ / /|___/ / / / /|______|/ / /_/__/ / / / / / / /_/__/ / / / /_/____ /_______ / / / / / / __ ___/ / / _______/| |______/ / / / / / / / |\ \__|/ / /|______|/ / / / / / / / / / \\ \ / /_/_____ _____/ / / /__/ / /__/ / \\__\ /__________/| /_______/ / |__|/ |__|/ |__| |__________|/ |_______|/ mrh160@psu.edu trey@psu.edu Trey's Mechwarrior Niche-> http://www.ecsel.psu.edu/~mhimes/ Trey's Other Mechwarrior Niche-> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/3527 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby orders Date: 08 Apr 1997 15:17:32 -0400 (EDT) what money and what orders....i'm a bit confused by your message!...sorry to be out of date with certain things......L.E. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) go ahead! Date: 08 Apr 1997 15:25:09 -0400 (EDT) does anyone know when Moby will be officially touring in the U.S. cos it's really making me mad that he hasn't started yet and my nipples are becoming specially aggravated by his tardiness...but there is nothing i can do and all i need to say to my nipples is, "Patience, my sons....if u wait, he will come"....i don't know. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samu Heinonen <samuhei@dlc.fi> Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year? Date: 08 Apr 1997 21:48:10 +0300 (EDT) At 20.55 8.4.1997 -0700, you wrote: > >My favorites ( so far ) for the first quarter of year 1997. > >1. Nemesis - Evolution <- Both Finnish. Suberb ambient if i might >say. >2. Panasonic - Kulma <- =20 >3. Apollo 440 - Electro glide'n blue >4. Orb - Orblivion >5. < still open > > > - mm > > Panasonic stuff is great!. i love Mika Vainio and Ilpo V=E4is=E4nen. They= really have guts to do so experimental stuff, that noone has done before. Also when we talk about Finnish techno artists i would like to add Jimi Tenor to this list his new Intervision is suberb.. =3D) +=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D+ | Samu | =20 | Heinonen | | e-mail:samuhei@dlc.fi | | Finland | | http://www.dlc.fi/~samuhei | +=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Himes <mrh160@psu.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) go ahead! Date: 08 Apr 1997 16:19:16 -0400 and my nipples are becoming >specially aggravated by his tardiness...but there is nothing i can do and all >i need to say to my nipples is, "Patience, my sons....if u wait, he will >come".... What the hell? Later, Trey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" <hypcadet@spectranet.ca> Subject: Re: (mobility) Eric Clapton going techno??? Date: 08 Apr 1997 17:21:36 -0700 > no way.... really? how frightening > is that some sort of joke... or has that really been hyped? Completely serious-umm...I don't remember the name of the album that will be coming out-but his name will be...something with an "x" in it...X-Form? I'm not sure-something like that... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss <eric_w@geocities.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) go ahead! Date: 08 Apr 1997 14:55:42 -0700 Chilidiba9@aol.com wrote: > does anyone know when Moby will be officially touring in the U.S. cos it's > really making me mad that he hasn't started yet and my nipples are becoming > specially aggravated by his tardiness...but there is nothing i can do and all > i need to say to my nipples is, "Patience, my sons....if u wait, he will > come"....i don't know. I know the feeling.. my nipples are extremely aggravated as well.. im just praying that Moby doesn't open for U2 (if you dont know what i mean.. U2 is switching opening acts every 1.5-2 weeks on their 3 year tour.. the only ones who have been announced is Rage Against The Machine) (since I dont have tickets to any U2 shows.. and dont want to spend 70+++++ bucks on scalped tickets)... I am thinking... i remember hearing about a huge tour of techno, industrial and other electronic music (NOT Emit.. totally different) this summer... is it possible moby would do that tour? i dunno -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip "If you were god what would upset you more, bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sinjin <Sinjin089@dbeach.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Where is all the love Date: 08 Apr 1997 17:58:54 -0400 Eekmaus@aol.com wrote: > > Hi > > I am Jenny from Michigan. I've only written once, you may not recall because > I wasn't quoting anyone or bashing people. I told about my little Moby > encounter in the rain two or three years ago...but I digress. > > ...and I thought I was obsessive about Moby (none of my friends have even > heard of him and give me a blank stare when I go on and on about how I like > his stuff). But it is nice to see that I only have a mild case of Moby. > > I have yet to buy the Animal Rights album...I got the single Come on Baby > before AR was released and one of my "punk" rock buddies really dug some of > the tunes. Actually the last Moby thing I bought was a 12" single....oh what > was it called? "Every Time You Touch Me" which I like...I also have the Hymn > single on Vinyl which is pretty darn good as well. > > Does anyone have the Mixmag live CD featuring Moby and Sven Vath? That Sven > character is pretty trippy. > > And who was it that said The ambient stuff Moby does that wasn't on the > Ambient CD? I agree. > > well nothing too exciting to say but I just wanted to contribute. Thanks for > you time. wow..die fledermaus!!! tell me what u think when you get AR... Sinjin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anuranman <ryu97@twd.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) Where is all the love Date: 08 Apr 1997 18:05:51 -0400 (EDT) jeremy, sorry there's been so much negativity on this list lately. i'm not exactly sure why everyone got so anxious all the sudden. probably has something ot do with spring time. >Does anyone have the Mixmag live CD featuring Moby and Sven Vath? That Sven >character is pretty trippy. i have this, and to be honest, i wouldn't buy it unless you have to own everything by moby. the sven vath mix is pretty boring if you ask me. and moby's "vintage mix" is ok, but it really isn't anything to jump and shout about. if you want to get a good mixed cd by moby, pick up the "everything is wrong: mixed and remixed" double cd. it shouldn't cost you more than like $22. both disks are full of continually mixed remixes from the album "EiW". love, ryu 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 "Noise is the Key, life is full of noise, only death is quiet." "Personally, I don't take any drugs and have never tried any and therefore perhaps have an odd opinion about them; a man must destroy himself before he is destroyed by the system!" -Alec Empire- 77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777 Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ".xAQ_" <zbentz@d.umn.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) go ahead! Date: 08 Apr 1997 17:35:35 -0500 (CDT) On Tue, 8 Apr 1997, eric weiss wrote: > spend 70+++++ bucks on scalped tickets)... I am thinking... i remember > hearing about a huge tour of techno, industrial and other electronic > music (NOT Emit.. totally different) this summer... is it possible moby > would do that tour? i dunno this could be the next lalapalooza. i've heard the prodigy turned down U2 so they could do it. apparently, perry f. is back in control and is making it mostly/all techno/electro. cool huh? -xaq- the shack of xaq-103.3fm KUMD-tuesdays 10pm-trance/happy hardcore/dance "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." "are ya done squeezing me yet?" <-ranma 1/2-> <-moby-> "women love all that rubber." <-some guy on red green-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVIESA@uwplatt.edu Subject: (mobility) mixmag cd Date: 08 Apr 1997 18:40:05 -0500 (CDT) >>Does anyone have the Mixmag live CD featuring Moby and Sven Vath? That Sven >>character is pretty trippy. >i have this, and to be honest, i wouldn't buy it unless you have to own >everything >by moby. the sven vath mix is pretty boring if you ask me. and moby's >"vintage mix" is ok, but it really isn't anything to jump and shout about. >if you want to get a good mixed cd by moby, pick up the "everything is wrong: >mixed and remixed" double cd. it shouldn't cost you more than like $22. both >disks are full of continually mixed remixes from the album "EiW". i disagree, i love this cd! i think that everything on tis disc is great! ok, yes, it is not a cd that you really want to get up and have a wild dancing fit to, but it is pretty groovy, IMHO. i bought it because i do want as much stuff as i can get of moby's, but i would now reccommend this to anyone! just my take on it... andy "run, run, as fast as you can, you can't catch me, i'm the gingerbread man!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss <eric_w@geocities.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) mixmag cd Date: 08 Apr 1997 17:31:22 -0700 I admit it too.. i love the CD.. its a great CD to pop in and keep on "repeat" while i do homework (other greats: mixmag vol 1: Ritchie Hawtin, Massive Attack v. Mad Professor... private email me for more...)... and again (i know im not saying anything that hasnt already been said before BUT at least its about moby) not a CD to dance too.. but to just chill out to... -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip "If you were god what would upset you more, bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Liquidrae@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) go ahead! Date: 08 Apr 1997 21:15:07 -0400 (EDT) >i do... i taped some off of TV... one of the Wink vidios that i have is >really bitchin'.... >so if you are interested in seeing any JW videos look on AMP sometime... >that show tends to play him... its has some cool videos from time to time. > *----*bluegirl*-------------------------------------* >*-"You get what everybody gets, you get a lifetime"-* *>------------------|Death|--------------------------* HEY THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION:) may i ask though.....what is AMP????? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ".xAQ_" <zbentz@d.umn.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) go ahead! Date: 08 Apr 1997 20:26:13 -0500 (CDT) On Tue, 8 Apr 1997 Liquidrae@aol.com wrote: > HEY THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION:) may i ask though.....what is AMP????? it's a show on MTV that playes "electronica." things like orbital, prodigy, FSOL, josh wink, EBTG,etc etc...it's really good, but i think they show way too many "trippy" videos. ya know, that ones that are just a computer program cycling through lame-o patterns. *.* check your local listings and WATCH IT!! ps. i have yet to see a moby video on AMP... -xaq- the shack of xaq-103.3fm KUMD-tuesdays 10pm-trance/happy hardcore/dance "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." "are ya done squeezing me yet?" <-ranma 1/2-> <-moby-> "women love all that rubber." <-some guy on red green-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) go ahead! Date: 08 Apr 1997 22:19:26 -0400 (EDT) Amp is a show that airs on MTV and it plays good music... l.e. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Weiland <weeg@infonline.net> Subject: (mobility) Eric C scoop Date: 08 Apr 1997 23:57:25 -0400 Hell-o! From "Addicted To Noise, the on-line rock & roll magazine - http://www.addict.com/", here's the Eric Clapton scoop: >>>Even more recently, he's dabbled in techno, using the name x-sample as part of the duo dubbed T.D.F.<<< There it is. Until later. Paul http://ns.infonline.net/~weeg/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: Re: (mobility) go ahead! Date: 08 Apr 1997 21:32:46 -0500 MO>does anyone know when Moby will be officially touring in the U.S. cos it's MO>really making me mad that he hasn't started yet and my nipples are becoming MO>specially aggravated by his tardiness...but there is nothing i can do and al MO>i need to say to my nipples is, "Patience, my sons....if u wait, he will MO>come"....i don't know. Well..I seem to recall that Moby said (In the SonicNet Chat)..that he wasn't going to tour till late summer/early fall(I could be wrong though..check the .txt file)..which is understandable..considering he is working w/ GNR..and working on a soundtrack..but come on..Moby's not the only artist on tour...I mean..hey..I'm seeing Rev. Horton Heat at the end of the month..Bosstones a week after that...and I live in Boise, Idaho :) Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/ahbqs.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" <hypcadet@spectranet.ca> Subject: (mobility) Lyrics Date: 09 Apr 1997 00:59:51 -0700 This may have been covered umpteen times before (if so, I apologise); but where abouts could I locate a complete collection of Moby's lyrics? I haven't seen them on any of the pages dedicated to him... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ".xAQ_" <zbentz@d.umn.edu> Subject: (mobility) shows Date: 09 Apr 1997 01:18:49 -0500 (CDT) On Tue, 8 Apr 1997 fishlips@ahbqs.com wrote: > the only artist on tour...I mean..hey..I'm seeing Rev. Horton Heat at > the end of the month..Bosstones a week after that...and I live in > Boise, Idaho :) the chemical brothers are playing in minneapolis, mn. on the 27th. i live 140 miles north in duluth. i'm getting my tickets tomorrow. (today?) -xaq- the shack of xaq-103.3fm KUMD-tuesdays 10pm-trance/happy hardcore/dance "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." "are ya done squeezing me yet?" <-ranma 1/2-> <-moby-> "women love all that rubber." <-some guy on red green-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Col <claird.ca2@CompApp.DCU.IE> Subject: Re: (mobility) mixmag cd Date: 09 Apr 1997 10:02:33 +0100 At 06:40 PM 4/8/97 -0500, you wrote: >>>Does anyone have the Mixmag live CD featuring Moby and Sven Vath? That Sven >>>character is pretty trippy. Well,if you want to hear some of that album before you buy it,check out : http://128.135.200.52/netscape.html This is an mp3 site that has a fair few tunes off that album on this page. Also has 5 or 6 Moby tunes aswell. Col. " I'm gonna knock you out, Momma said knock you out! " ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss <eric_w@geocities.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) go ahead! Date: 09 Apr 1997 06:39:20 -0700 fishlips@ahbqs.com wrote: > I'm seeing Rev. Horton Heat at > the end of the month.. If this is your first time seeing the Rev. you are in for a treat (bring quarters and throw them into the bass... the results are hilarious) -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip "If you were god what would upset you more, bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aaron Ackerson <spacecat@spideyweb.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year Date: 08 Apr 1997 05:14:46 PDT Sinjin wrote: >> is holding up messages or NOONE said you had to like moby...AND i dont= see >> how depeche modes cd relates to MOBY, by-and-by-the-way. >> [snip] >have we lowered ourselves to pointing fingers and going on a >"Crucible"-esque "Your honor, I fear that citizen A mentions >subjects >that do not contain the holy name of Moby. Perhaps he worships >Satan?" >witch hunt. sheesh. stop with the damn whining. I think you're missing the point. It would be no more appropriate to say = "DM's new album is gonna suck" than it would be to say "DM's new album = is gonna rule". And it doesn't matter whether or not you like Moby or his= work, but this is a Moby list, not a DM list. Personally though, I don't mind people mentioning what non-Moby CDs they = like. Aaron Ackerson Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/southbeach/marina/6593/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheezit <cheezit@gorilla.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) Eric Clapton going techno??? Date: 09 Apr 1997 01:42:07 -0700 Hypecadet wrote: > > > no way.... really? how frightening > > is that some sort of joke... or has that really been hyped? > > Completely serious-umm...I don't remember the name of the album that will > be coming out-but his name will be...something with an "x" in it...X-Form? > I'm not sure-something like that... oh wow...this is a mind fry...i am in panic looking for the article where i saw this...it was a cd review in a dallas paper that had a picture of a few guys in space(??) suits. the article mentioned clapton aiding his axe skills to the project.. i wish i could remember that!!! it was an issue from last month, i don't even know the title of the newspaper..i picked it up in deep ellum last month..aaugh! l8r, cheezit sitting round singing songs till the night turns into day used to sing on the mountains but the mountains washed away ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheezit <cheezit@gorilla.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) no more repeats (the *other* reason mail is weird) Date: 09 Apr 1997 01:44:13 -0700 MOBYchild@aol.com wrote: > > ok...this one i think will eliminate all repeat messages! > > A) dont click on reply to all (alredy said) > > B) send mail to mobility@mail.xmission.com --NOT mobility@xmission.com (be > sure to put the word "mail" after the "@" (at) sign) > > thx...i think this should do it... okay..not to be anal or anything, but this message appeared twice in my mailbox.. l8r, cheezit play for free, play for me and play a whole lot more ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Eric Clapton going techno??? Date: 09 Apr 1997 19:12:45 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-04-09 18:26:39 EDT, you write: << nothing >> yeah..i saw a thing on MTV and they were talking about Eric Clapton going techno...he's actually just playing the guitar in an electronic kind of way on a song by some techno artirts....sorry...do not remember the name of the group....it's not like Clapton is throwing down his guitar and explring the world of computers and music together....like some musicians are doing?!? oh well....tangerines still haven't lsot their tang? L.E. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hegner, Jeanne" <jeanne.hegner@yale.edu> Subject: (mobility) REQ: lyrics Date: 09 Apr 1997 19:36:43 -0400 I am looking for the lyrics to "That's When I Reach for My Revolver." Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aaron Ackerson <spacecat@spideyweb.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) go ahead! Date: 09 Apr 1997 06:27:42 PDT Chilidiba9@aol.com wrote: >does anyone know when Moby will be officially touring in the U.S. >cos = it's >really making me mad that he hasn't started yet and my nipples are >beco= ming >specially aggravated by his tardiness...but there is nothing i can do = >and all >i need to say to my nipples is, "Patience, my sons....if u wait, he will >come"....i don't know. On Modern Rock Live he said, "Probably their gonna force me to tour from = April until August, I think." It's already April. We probably won't have to wait to long. Aaron Ackerson Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/southbeach/marina/6593/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bluegirl <mlverma@odin.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) go ahead! Date: 09 Apr 1997 20:00:13 -0500 (CDT) Aaron Ackerson said: >On Modern Rock Live he said, "Probably their gonna force me to tour from >April until August, I think." >It's already April. We probably won't have to wait to long. yeah!!!!! this news makes me very very happy cause it will be a lot easier for me to see him over the summer than to see him during the fall (cause of school) oh! i got the A.P issue with the Danzig vs. Moby article. its really quiet interesting... they are not as different as one might think them to be... *----*bluegirl*-------------------------------------* *-"You get what everybody gets, you get a lifetime"-* *------------------|Death|--------------------------* ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ".xAQ_" <zbentz@d.umn.edu> Subject: (mobility) shows Date: 09 Apr 1997 21:36:23 -0500 (CDT) just a quick note to anyone in the minneapolis area: the chemical brothers are playing at first ave. on the 27th. i got my ticket today and am going with about six other people. woo hoo! the new album rocks!! moby tie-in...first ave. is the same club where i saw moby in 95. it was one of the best shows (second only to marilyn manson, who i've seen there twice and once at roy wilkins) i've been to. also, i'm going to see U2 in october (!!!) at the metrodome. i've heard that rage against the machine is opening, so i'm planning to get there late. -xaq- WHOisTHISdooinTHISsyntheticTYPEalphaBETApsychadellicFUNKIN? the shack of xaq-103.3fm KUMD-tuesdays 10pm-trance/happy hardcore/dance "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." "are ya done squeezing me yet?" <-ranma 1/2-> <-moby-> "women love all that rubber." <-some guy on red green-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keri schaeffer <kschaff@foothill.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year Date: 09 Apr 1997 20:23:07 -0700 Aaron Ackerson wrote: Sinjin wrote: >> is holding up messages or NOONE said you had to like moby...AND i dont see >> how depeche modes cd relates to MOBY, by-and-by-the-way. >> [snip] >have we lowered ourselves to pointing fingers and going on a >"Crucible"-esque "Your honor, I fear that citizen A mentions >subjects >that do not contain the holy name of Moby. Perhaps he worships >Satan?" >witch hunt. sheesh. stop with the damn whining. I think you're missing the point. It would be no more appropriate to say "DM's new album is gonna suck" than it would be to say "DM's new album is gonna rule". And it doesn't matter whether or not you like Moby or his work, but this is a Moby list, not a DM list. Personally though, I don't mind people mentioning what non-Moby CDs they like. Aaron Ackerson Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/southbeach/marina/6593/ i haven't posted for awile since the crack about not posting moby info and since i don't live with the man i don't have much to say. i just wished i was back in san francisco where they play alot more hardcore and techno that you all talk about. the local radio( be as good as it is) always plays the same stuff over & over.just like me! i still vote for: 1. U2 "pop" 2.moby "animal rights" 3. live "secret...." and that's all folks. i do hope moby would tour since rem has no intentions of doing so. kls ps. anybody going to u2? (sorry i had to ask!) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: damian@xmission.com Subject: (mobility) Noise Ratio Date: 09 Apr 1997 21:46:25 -0600 Hello, I'm writing concerning the recent state of the list. It seems that we have strayed off topic many times in the past week or two. I'm personally requesting that everyone keep in mind that the list is for the discussion of Moby. I understand that it's easy to stray off topic but at the same time it's easy to take the discussion off the list if it doesn't belong. Most important: Responses directed to specific individuals need to be sent to the specific email account and not to Mobility's address! I will most certainly appreciate everyone's help in this matter. Thanks. And just remember... <G> > THE GOLDEN RULES > ---------------- > > 1. Please keep the discussion on the list confined to that > revolving around Moby, his record label Trophy, and the pseudonyms > thereof. For example, while Aphex Twin may be a great artist, most > members of the list don't really care since it's not related to Moby. -- ** damian@xmission.com ** http://www.xmission.com/~damian/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss <eric_w@GEOCITIES.COM> Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year Date: 09 Apr 1997 16:42:54 -0700 i see no problem with non-moby posts as long as they have a tiny bit of relavance (music, environment) or if the poster feels that other people would enjoy the info... i took the reverand horton heat discussion to private because there is probably a small minority (is that being redundant?) of you out there also indulge in rock-a-billy (you really should give it a chance btw) anyway i will type out a little paragraph blurb on Mobys appearance in Austin, TX during SXSW (south by southwest: a big music conferance and bonanza of live shows) tonight... talk to y'all then -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip "If you were god what would upset you more, bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sinjin" <sinjin089@dbeach.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Noise Ratio Date: 10 Apr 1997 09:28:30 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BC4591.91525DC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Take me off the list your intolerantness. No band merits discussion = censorship. and since i seem to be causing much of your problems... Sinjin ---- Hello, I'm writing concerning the recent state of the list. It seems that we have strayed off topic many times in the past week or two. I'm personally requesting that everyone keep in mind that the list is for the discussion of Moby. I understand that it's easy to stray off topic but at the same time it's easy to take the discussion off the list if it doesn't belong. Most important: Responses directed to specific individuals need to be sent to the specific email account and not to Mobility's address! I will most certainly appreciate everyone's help in this matter. Thanks. And just remember... <G> > THE GOLDEN RULES > ---------------- > > 1. Please keep the discussion on the list confined to that > revolving around Moby, his record label Trophy, and the pseudonyms > thereof. For example, while Aphex Twin may be a great artist, most > members of the list don't really care since it's not related to Moby. -- ** damian@xmission.com ** http://www.xmission.com/~damian/ ------=_NextPart_000_01BC4591.91525DC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D'"Trident 4.71.0544.0"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY> Take me off the list your intolerantness. No band merits discussion=20 censorship. and since i seem to be causing much of your problems... Sinjin ---- From: damian@xmission.com To: mobility@xmission.com Date: Wednesday, April 09, 1997 11:58 PM Subject: (mobility) Noise Ratio <HTML><BODY>Hello, I'm writing concerning the recent state of the list. It seems that = we have strayed off topic many times in the past week or two. I'm personally requesting that everyone keep in mind that the list is = for the discussion of Moby. I understand that it's easy to stray off = topic but at the same time it's easy to take the discussion off the list if = it doesn't belong. Most important: Responses directed to specific individuals need to = be sent to the specific email account and not to Mobility's address! I will most certainly appreciate everyone's help in this matter. Thanks. And just remember... <G> > THE GOLDEN RULES > ---------------- > > 1. Please keep the discussion on the list confined to = that > revolving around Moby, his record label Trophy, and the = pseudonyms > thereof. For example, while Aphex Twin may be a great artist, = most > members of the list don't really care since it's not related to = Moby. -- ** <A href=3D"mailto:damian@xmission.com">damian@xmission.com</A> ** <A=20 href=3D"http://www.xmission.com/~damian/">http://www.xmission.com/~damian= /</A> </BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_01BC4591.91525DC0-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: joeclark@interlog.com (Joe Clark) Subject: (mobility) Copyright Date: 10 Apr 1997 09:11:53 -0500 >>i was wondering if anyone has about 200 mbs of free space to net.. i need >>it. because i am thinking to start maintain mp3 site with some rare techno >>songs from artists like Moby, The Prodigy and i also would like put some >>rare finnish techno to in it. i am only dreaming , but anyway.. =) > >Samu, what do you want to do? I already have a collection of my own and I >have an ethernet connection and ftp server that I can run. I don't have >much free space, but I can fix that real fast ;-). I could try to run a >moby ftp site if people could send me the files. This plan amouts to naked premeditated theft of intellectual property. Apart from being morally wrong and illegal in Finland and the U.S., it hurts real people, like the artists whose royalties you are denying them. I know, I know, copyright isn't like murder. It's one of those laws you can ignore (as we know, some laws are so horribly unjust, or, as in the case of copyright, inconvenient, that they can only be ignored), or at least fob off on someone else to worry about. Copyright is always someone else's problem. This, of course, is the attitude of people who haven't had their livelihoods eliminated due to copyright infringement, as I have (see /career.html at my Web site). It's the attitude of those who believe that information never has an owner, and that something as readily copyable as bits on a compact disc can and should be copied to the fullest extent possible everywhere irrespective of legality or consequences. If, on the other hand, you secure written permission from the copyright holders (including the holders of music-publishing rights-- often a separate entity) in advance, go right ahead. You *were* planning on taking that step, weren't you? Weren't you? Joe Clark joeclark@interlog.com <http://www.interlog.com/~joeclark> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samu Heinonen <samuhei@dlc.fi> Subject: Re: (mobility) Copyright Date: 10 Apr 1997 17:33:17 +0300 (EDT) i just wanted to say this: fuck you all motherfuckers with those copyrights. i know that i am doing wrong. but i dont care about it. and if i heard some really good song, i will buy it from store. i am only exspecially looking that kind of stuff what you cannot find from anyking of store.. i am not taking any money from other people songs like some bootleg sellers. i do this when i can: i download song, if i like it i will buy it from some store. if i cannot find it from any store, i just dont care about copyrights. =) +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ | Samu | | Heinonen | | e-mail:samuhei@dlc.fi | | Finland | | http://www.dlc.fi/~samuhei | +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keri schaeffer <kschaff@foothill.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) Copyright Date: 10 Apr 1997 07:38:09 -0700 Joe Clark wrote: >>i was wondering if anyone has about 200 mbs of free space to net.. i need >>it. because i am thinking to start maintain mp3 site with some rare techno >>songs from artists like Moby, The Prodigy and i also would like put some >>rare finnish techno to in it. i am only dreaming , but anyway.. =) > >Samu, what do you want to do? I already have a collection of my own and I >have an ethernet connection and ftp server that I can run. I don't have >much free space, but I can fix that real fast ;-). I could try to run a >moby ftp site if people could send me the files. This plan amouts to naked premeditated theft of intellectual property. Apart from being morally wrong and illegal in Finland and the U.S., it hurts real people, like the artists whose royalties you are denying them. I know, I know, copyright isn't like murder. It's one of those laws you can ignore (as we know, some laws are so horribly unjust, or, as in the case of copyright, inconvenient, that they can only be ignored), or at least fob off on someone else to worry about. Copyright is always someone else's problem. This, of course, is the attitude of people who haven't had their livelihoods eliminated due to copyright infringement, as I have (see /career.html at my Web site). It's the attitude of those who believe that information never has an owner, and that something as readily copyable as bits on a compact disc can and should be copied to the fullest extent possible everywhere irrespective of legality or consequences. If, on the other hand, you secure written permission from the copyright holders (including the holders of music-publishing rights-- often a separate entity) in advance, go right ahead. You *were* planning on taking that step, weren't you? Weren't you? Joe Clark joeclark@interlog.com <http://www.interlog.com/~joeclark> it seems to me 200 mbs is alot of "free space".my ip only gives us 10 mbs for a page and that would create alot of pages. how long does it take to download one of these? and according to joe isn't this wrong? enquiring minds want to know? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Col <claird.ca2@CompApp.DCU.IE> Subject: Re: (mobility) Copyright Date: 10 Apr 1997 16:11:57 +0100 At 05:33 PM 4/10/97 +0300, you wrote: >i just wanted to say this: >fuck you all motherfuckers with those copyrights. i know that i am doing >wrong. but i dont care about it. and if i heard some really good song, i >will buy it from store. i am only exspecially looking that kind of stuff >what you cannot find from anyking of store.. i am not taking any money from >other people songs like some bootleg sellers. >i do this when i can: >i download song, if i like it i will buy it from some store. if i cannot >find it from any store, i just dont care about copyrights. =) I am in total agreement with Samu on this.Who the fuck do you think you are spewing this shite at us?You're not my mother or my conscience,so shut your mouth.If I hear a tune I like because of downloading an mp3 file,I'll buy it. By the way Samu, I think that I have about that much space free.You're welcome to it,if you like. Col. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: Re: (mobility) go ahead! Date: 10 Apr 1997 09:42:02 -0500 MO>On Modern Rock Live he said, "Probably their gonna force me to tour from Apr MO>It's already April. We probably won't have to wait to long. MO>Aaron Ackerson Actually..I hope he doesn't tour till he's ready...I'd rather see Moby tour on his own terms(in doing that having more fun)..than being forced by the record company to do one. Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: matthew james smith <mjsmith@students.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) go ahead! Date: 10 Apr 1997 12:53:57 -0500 (CDT) Hey everyone This is not in regard to moby, but many people who listen to moby listen to erasure. And I have a question in regards to erasure. Did one of the guys from erasure sing for Yaz, back in the late 70's early 80's?...mjs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aaron Ackerson <spacecat@spideyweb.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) Copyright Date: 10 Apr 1997 00:30:46 PDT At 05:33 PM 4/10/97 +0300, you wrote: >>i just wanted to say this: >>fuck you all motherfuckers with those copyrights. i know that i am doin= g >>wrong. but i dont care about it. and if i heard some really good song, = i >>will buy it from store. i am only exspecially looking that kind of stuf= f >>what you cannot find from anyking of store.. i am not taking any money = from >>other people songs like some bootleg sellers. >>i do this when i can: >>i download song, if i like it i will buy it from some store. if i canno= t >>find it from any store, i just dont care about copyrights. =3D) > > >I am in total agreement with Samu on this.Who the fuck do you >think you= are >spewing this shite at us? I agree too. If you can't find a CD at a store, then how is the artist = losing any money from you putting it on the web? Aaron Ackerson Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/southbeach/marina/6593/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anuranman <ryu97@twd.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) Copyright Date: 10 Apr 1997 15:08:13 -0400 (EDT) At 05:33 PM 4/10/97 +0300, you wrote: >i just wanted to say this: >fuck you all motherfuckers with those copyrights. while i would not like to have sex with anyone on this list, i do happen to agree with samu here also. if you listen to somthing on the net, it is not the same as actually owning it, and chances are, you will go out and buy the record anyways. at least that's how i am. putting an artist's songs on the net for download is a great promotion for that artist. it's not like samu is going to charge people to download the stuff. any artist would be happy to have this go on if that artist's goals are spreading their music and not making $$$. as long as you don't claim responsibility for the work, or try to sell it, then i do not think there is anything wrong with it. just my 2 yen. love, ryu 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 "Noise is the Key, life is full of noise, only death is quiet." "Personally, I don't take any drugs and have never tried any and therefore perhaps have an odd opinion about them; a man must destroy himself before he is destroyed by the system!" -Alec Empire- 77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777 Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Himes <mrh160@psu.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) Copyright Date: 10 Apr 1997 16:43:02 -0400 At 04:11 PM 4/10/97 +0100, you wrote: >At 05:33 PM 4/10/97 +0300, you wrote: >>i just wanted to say this: >>fuck you all motherfuckers with those copyrights. i know that i am doing >>wrong. but i dont care about it. and if i heard some really good song, i >>will buy it from store. i am only exspecially looking that kind of stuff >>what you cannot find from anyking of store.. i am not taking any money from >>other people songs like some bootleg sellers. >>i do this when i can: >>i download song, if i like it i will buy it from some store. if i cannot >>find it from any store, i just dont care about copyrights. =) > > >I am in total agreement with Samu on this.Who the fuck do you think you are >spewing this shite at us?You're not my mother or my conscience,so shut your >mouth.If I hear a tune I like because of downloading an mp3 file,I'll buy it. >By the way Samu, I think that I have about that much space free.You're >welcome to it,if you like. > >Col. > Since I seem to be one of the parties involved in this, and since Joe's response was to Samu and me, I guess should respond. First of all, Col and Samu, you should be ashamed of yourselves. Joe presented an intelligent and ration expanation about his concerns with the possible copyright and moral wrongs of our idea. You both responded with "Fuck you" and told him to go to hell. Joe is not the Gestapo or the mind police, he's just a guy on this mailing list with well founded concerns about respecting copyright laws, and if you took the time to read the part of his page that he refered to, you see what he bases these opinions on. Okay, now Joe. Yes, I do recognize that what we would be doing is, more or less, illegal. No, we weren't planning on contacting the copyright holders, because that would be a monumental effort for a college student like me who just wants to run an ftp server on his own machine to share some mp3 files. As far as the moral aspect of it, I'm not even going to try to morally justify myself, because I just don't want to play that game. The point of this is to create a small site of some sort, be it a web site or ftp site, that has moby, and some other artists, mp3 files. These files would most likely be of more hard to find tracks, with some 'common' tracks. No money would be charged for access to the files. If you find this wrong, well then fine, I respect your opinion. Please keep in mind that mp3's tend to lead to people going out and buying what they like of what they hear. I hadn't intended to buy any Chemical Brothers until I heard some of their material (other than _setting sun_) on mp3. I now fully intend to go out and buy some of their stuff sometime soon. There is my take on the situation, think of it what you may. Later, Matt Himes aka: _______________ ___________ __________ ___ ___ /_____ _____/| / _____ /| / _______/| / /| / /| |____/ /|_____|/ / /|___/ / / / /|______|/ / /_/__/ / / / / / / /_/__/ / / / /_/____ /_______ / / / / / / __ ___/ / / _______/| |______/ / / / / / / / |\ \__|/ / /|______|/ / / / / / / / / / \\ \ / /_/_____ _____/ / / /__/ / /__/ / \\__\ /__________/| /_______/ / |__|/ |__|/ |__| |__________|/ |_______|/ mrh160@psu.edu trey@psu.edu Trey's Mechwarrior Niche-> http://www.ecsel.psu.edu/~mhimes/ Trey's Other Mechwarrior Niche-> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/3527 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: damian@xmission.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Copyright / p.s. Date: 10 Apr 1997 15:03:49 -0600 Matt Himes wrote: > > First of all, Col and Samu, you should be ashamed of yourselves. Joe > presented an intelligent and ration expanation about his concerns with the > possible copyright and moral wrongs of our idea. You both responded with > "Fuck you" and told him to go to hell. Joe is not the Gestapo or the mind > police, he's just a guy on this mailing list with well founded concerns > about respecting copyright laws, and if you took the time to read the part > of his page that he refered to, you see what he bases these opinions on. Bravo! Talk about jumping the gun. Where's the respect? I think the use of MP3 and other audio on the web can make things go both ways. In the end, I tend to think that it would encourage you to buy the music and not the other way around. p.s. the mobility profiles have been updated again. got revisions? want to add something? please let me know. Cheers! -- ** damian@xmission.com ** http://www.xmission.com/~damian/moby.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aaron Ackerson <spacecat@spideyweb.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) go ahead! Date: 10 Apr 1997 04:38:31 PDT >Hey everyone >This is not in regard to moby, but many people who listen to moby >listen >to erasure. And I have a question in regards to erasure. Did one of >the >guys from erasure sing for Yaz, back in the late 70's early 80's?...mjs Vince Clarke played synths in Yaz. And Yaz wasn't around in the 70's. He was also one of the founding members of Depeche Mode. (I would have sent this straight to the matthew james smith, but my mail program won't let me.) Aaron Ackerson Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/southbeach/marina/6593/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aaron Ackerson <spacecat@spideyweb.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) Copyright Date: 10 Apr 1997 04:41:59 PDT Auranman wrote: >At 05:33 PM 4/10/97 +0300, you wrote: >>i just wanted to say this: >>fuck you all motherfuckers with those copyrights. > >while i would not like to have sex with anyone on this list, >i do happen to agree with samu here also. >if you listen to somthing on the net, it is not the same as >actually owning it, and chances are, you will go out and buy >the record anyways. at least that's how i am. putting an >artist's songs on the net for download is a great promotion for >that artist. it's not like samu is going to charge people to >download the stuff. any artist would be happy to have this >go on if that artist's goals are spreading their music and not >making $$$. >as long as you don't claim responsibility for the work, or try >to sell it, then i do not think there is anything wrong with it. > >just my 2 yen. Something occured to me. What's the difference between putting a whole song on the net and playing it on the radio? Either way, people can record it and have it without buying the album it's on. Aaron Ackerson Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/southbeach/marina/6593/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brad Caviness" <bigwig@agora.ualr.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) Copyright Date: 10 Apr 1997 18:10:22 -0500 ---------- > From: Aaron Ackerson: What's the difference between putting a > whole song on the net and playing it on the radio? Either way, people > can record it and have it without buying the album it's on. > People can tape it, without buying the cd, yes, but radio stations pay thousands of dollars each year to BMI and ASCAP to compensate artists and writers for the rights to play them. Artists are payed in accordance to their airplay and chart position. I am sympathetic to rare songs out there to let people have a chance to hear them, but let's not kid ourselves. Unless you are paying your fair share to the publisher, you are stealing from the artist. Brad S. Caviness, Contributing On-Line Editor, 7Ball Magazine (http://www.7ball.com) bigwig@agora.ualr.edu "I've often wondered how someone could put a critique of music into words. And I've also wondered why there was no musical commentary on words." - Dr. Peter Kreeft, author "There seems, by the way, to be nothing pending in the Christian Coalition`s political wish list about sheltering the homeless, feeding the hungry, or clothing the naked, unless, of course, the naked got that way for fun." - Tom Teepen, Cox News Service ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVIESA@uwplatt.edu Date: 10 Apr 1997 18:57:37 -0500 (CDT) > From: Aaron Ackerson: What's the difference between putting a > whole song on the net and playing it on the radio? Either way, people > can record it and have it without buying the album it's on. > -People can tape it, without buying the cd, yes, but radio stations pay -thousands of dollars each year to BMI and ASCAP to compensate artists and -writers for the rights to play them. Artists are payed in accordance to -their airplay and chart position. - -I am sympathetic to rare songs out there to let people have a chance to -hear them, but let's not kid ourselves. Unless you are paying your fair -share to the publisher, you are stealing from the artist. YES!! i totally agree with this! i am all for getting the music out there, so others can hear it, but please respect the copyrights and the law. i would not want to have my music "stolen" by copyright infringement, so i know other artists feel the same way, i'm sure. thanks for the great insight... andy "run, run, as fast as you can, you can't catch me, i'm the gingerbread man!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ".xAQ_" <zbentz@d.umn.edu> Subject: (mobility) copy Date: 10 Apr 1997 19:54:50 -0500 (CDT) well, as much as i hate getting all this wonderful mail, i thought i should point out something. have you ever made a mix tape or comp tape for someone? did you call up each and every artist on that tape and ask permission to copy their material and send it to someone how didn't pay for it? i bet not. SO SHUT UP!! thank you. >8) -xaq- WHOisTHISdooinTHISsyntheticTYPEalphaBETApsychadellicFUNKIN? the shack of xaq-103.3fm KUMD-tuesdays 10pm-trance/happy hardcore/dance "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." "are ya done squeezing me yet?" <-ranma 1/2-> <-moby-> "women love all that rubber." <-some guy on red green-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheezit <cheezit@gorilla.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) Noise Ratio Date: 10 Apr 1997 09:27:27 -0700 Sinjin wrote: > > Take me off the list your intolerantness. No band merits discussion > censorship. and since i seem to be causing much of your problems... > > > > Sinjin i agree...i wish to be taken off also. l8r, cheezit ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "L Potter" <technogod@italy-c.it.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) copy Date: 10 Apr 1997 22:50:00 +0000 > have you ever made a mix tape or comp tape for someone? did you call up > each and every artist on that tape and ask permission to copy > their material and send it to someone how didn't pay for it? > i bet not. > SO SHUT UP!! > > thank you. >8) > -xaq- that's the best thing i've heard on here in a long time... =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= they can make me go to college, but they still can't make me think! http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9514/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVIESA@uwplatt.edu Subject: Re: (mobility) copy Date: 10 Apr 1997 22:04:36 -0500 (CDT) ok, here is the last thing i will say on the copyright thing: i agree with both sides of this argument. there are points i can see with both sides. i have made a tape and such, yes. i do wish copywights infringement did not happen, yes. i can't win either way. that's life. andy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "talk dirty to me" <mutton@jane.penn.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Noise Ratio Date: 10 Apr 1997 22:56:58 -0500 what list of intolerance? i haven't read up in a few days so i'm a bit behind. whatever a list of intolerance is, its sound portrays darkness jeremy ---------- : From: cheezit <cheezit@gorilla.net> : To: mobility@mail.xmission.com : Subject: Re: (mobility) Noise Ratio : Date: Thursday, April 10, 1997 11:27 AM : : Sinjin wrote: : > : > Take me off the list your intolerantness. No band merits discussion : > censorship. and since i seem to be causing much of your problems... : > : > : > : > Sinjin : : i agree...i wish to be taken off also. : : l8r, : cheezit ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ".xAQ_" <zbentz@d.umn.edu> Subject: (mobility) update Date: 10 Apr 1997 22:04:59 -0500 (CDT) i think we need to make a list of what moby is up to. it should only include things we know of FOR SURE. i'll start: 1. "Oil 1" on the _Saint_ soundtrack short huh? that's 'cause i haven't been able to dig through all the trash on the list. so if you have something to add, please cut and paste it into the list. i seen to remember something about guns and roses and some film score. anyone? -xaq- WHOisTHISdooinTHISsyntheticTYPEalphaBETApsychadellicFUNKIN? the shack of xaq-103.3fm KUMD-tuesdays 10pm-trance/happy hardcore/dance "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." "are ya done squeezing me yet?" <-ranma 1/2-> <-moby-> "women love all that rubber." <-some guy on red green-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: damian@xmission.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Noise Ratio Date: 10 Apr 1997 21:10:44 -0600 talk dirty to me wrote: > > what list of intolerance? i haven't read up in a few days so i'm > a bit behind. whatever a list of intolerance is, its sound portrays > darkness > jeremy I guess I've upset a few people by requesting that we try harder to stay on topic. It was never meant to be a personal attack on anyone. I figured a reminder wouldn't hurt but I guess it did in some ways. Therefor, if anyone thinks I have been acting too rash (or not), I would appreciate a _personal_ letter hearing your opinions. Maybe I should loosen up a bit and let things stray more. I assumed that keeping things a bit more focused would be appreciated more than anything. Is it too suffocating? -- ** damian@xmission.com ** http://www.xmission.com/~damian/moby.html ** trying my hardest not to waste anyones time. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "radiowave" <mazda@pp.qnet.fi> Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year? Date: 11 Apr 1997 10:47:18 -0700 ---------- > Panasonic stuff is great!. i love Mika Vainio and Ilpo VΣisΣnen. They really > have guts to do so experimental stuff, that noone has done before. Also when Yup, but do you happen to know which one of those guys is known as '÷' ( Norwegian 'O' where u have '/' stuff up in the middle of that 'O' ) As far as i know the man is doing a sideline projects under that name, and i havent been able to reach his music from anywhere. - mm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bluegirl <mlverma@odin.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: (mobility) i understand... Date: 11 Apr 1997 17:52:49 -0500 i can understand the problems that some ppl are having with the list... i have not been on long & i have already witnessed fights. its rediculous... moby stuff seems to be pushed to the side wayyy to often. what is the point of petty little email fights.... *---bluegirl---* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jeff <tide1@gator.net> Subject: (mobility) "Hypecadet" <hypcadet@spectranet.ca> Date: 12 Apr 1997 00:37:31 -0400 ok, so "Hypercadet"replies to Scott Steg w/ the following: >> But trust me...there will be people jumping on the "techno/electronica" >> bandwagon this year with not an ounce of techno knowledge in them. Too >>bad... >> Scott Steg > >Hmmm.....Eric Clapton, Depeche Mode, U2....etc. i read this and at first i'm a little pissed...sure maybe E. Clapton might be jumping on the bandwagon, but depeche mode has been semi-electronic for a while (as long as i can remember...but then again i'm not a fan), and u2 well they worked w/ eno (and have even joined him w/ some stuff)...so u2 can do whatever they want w/ electronic music cause they have worked w/one of the "grandfathers" of techno/jungle-dnb/ambient/trip-hop/electro-whatever-you-want-to-call-it music (so i would say they have plenty of fucking knowledge) ...but, then i think well it would just be silly to get mad...and then i think rock,blues,jazz are old forms of music...people need new ways of expressing themselves...its just music,and if a band or person want to use a guitar a sampler, keyboard or a kazoo, well that's fine by me...trust me i don't want to think about the trendy little shits who are going to show up to see moby because his video is on mtv and sing "that's when i realize it's over"...i missed seeing prodigy last time they toured my part of the states and know i fear i will not be able to see them w/out some kid or obnoxious frat boy screaming "play fucking firestarter"...i'm glad i got to see orbital twice before they get too big (if they do, but they don't deserve that kind of popularity here, they are too good for it)...um...that's all for know, perhaps i should of written this a few beers earlier...oh well...bye...respond personally if anyone feels they need to do so... -jeff ********************************************************************** "well son...a funny thing about regret is: that it's better to regret something you have done than to regret something you haven't done... and bye the way...if you see your mom this weekend, be sure and tell her: 'SATAN, SATAN, SATAN, SATAN, SATAN, SATAN...'" -The Butthole Surfers ********************************************************************** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "halo" <halo@humboldt1.com> Date: 12 Apr 1997 01:22:31 -0700 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BC46DF.FE187BC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just came back from watching 'the saint' .. anyway, during the preview = for some movie (5th element? not sure) they used a really *nice* mix of = first cool hive, if anyone knows where I could get ahold of this, aside = from waiting for the soundtrack, please lemme know - on a side note, the = movie looks pretty cool as well =3D) peace! -- Scott Bruce <halo@humboldt1.com> ... 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"with the right tools, any rental car quickly becomes a=20 convertible" </BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_01BC46DF.FE187BC0-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss <eric_w@geocities.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) "Hypecadet" <hypcadet@spectranet.ca> Date: 12 Apr 1997 13:18:57 -0700 woah! i am a huge fan of Eno and have been for quite a while but to say that a band (U2) can do whatever they want with electronic music because they worked with him.. that doesnt make sence to me... Don't forget that Eno also produced Talking Heads and I cant imagine David Byrne and the gang doing techno... -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip "If you were god what would upset you more, bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman <keen@webaccess.net> Subject: (mobility) Revolver promo facts Date: 12 Apr 1997 17:25:01 -0600 I just noticed something about the US "That's When I Reach For My Revolver" promo CD (Elektra PRCD 9711-2). "You (Live)" goes straight into "Whip It (Death Metal Version)", and the first couple beats of "Whip It" were not played. It's almost as if they used them to cue the track to exactly where they wanted it to start. Well, it's not a bad thing, since it is just a promo CD after all. Just thought I'd mention that. Also, "Someone To Love (Live)" purports to have a track time of 3:29, but it is actually about 2:30, like the AR "Live At The Splash Club" European CD has it. And while I'm on the subject, I might as well mention that this promo also credits Moby's live band. "additional musicians on tracks 2 & 3: ali mcmordie (bass), bubba dupree (guitar) and scott frassetto (drums)." Anyways, that's just a little trivia... Daniel Cerman http://www.moby.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cherilyn <csymons@cougarnet.byu.edu> Subject: (mobility) can't we all just be friends!?! Date: 12 Apr 1997 17:46:01 -0600 the list has been getting a little old lately. it seems like there have only been fights this last week+, and no one has been tossing around anything of interest. from my viewpoint, no one has been enjoying the list, and people are just get annoyed with it. everyone seems a little uptight, so i thought it was time to ask some more stupid/silly questions! :) let's lighten up and have some fun everyone! 1. if moby were an animal, what would he be? (please, no one say whale...be original!) 2. what flavors of ice cream would your favorite moby songs taste like? 3. if moby had a sex change, which famous female would he most resemble? ;) cherilyn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman <keen@webaccess.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) can't we all just be friends!?! Date: 12 Apr 1997 17:53:54 -0600 cherilyn wrote: > the list has been getting a little old lately. it seems like there > have only been fights this last week+, and no one has been tossing around > anything of interest. from my viewpoint, no one has been enjoying the list, > and people are just get annoyed with it. everyone seems a little uptight, > so i thought it was time to ask some more stupid/silly questions! :) let's > lighten up and have some fun everyone! Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the tons of off-topic messages and bickering the list has just seen happen in the form of successive responses to Mobility's sad tradition of "stupid questions"? I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade, but stupid questions bring stupid responses. I think that Moby is doing plenty of stuff for us to talk about without inventing reasons to fill up our inboxes with 60 lame messages per day. But then maybe I'm the only one who finds them lame, so I'll shut up now. Daniel Cerman http://www.moby.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVIESA@uwplatt.edu Subject: Re: (mobility) can't we all just be friends!?! Date: 12 Apr 1997 20:04:29 -0500 (CDT) i agree with dan, i do not find the silly questions any "fun" or worthwhile. not to be a party pooper, but i would rather talk about moby and what he IS doing, rather than "what if" this and "if this, then what?" we just started to get back onto topic, why change the current course? andy "run, run, as fast as you can, you can't catch me, i'm the gingerbread man!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kcr4829@is.nyu.edu (Ken Rowe) Subject: Re: (mobility) "Hypecadet" <hypcadet@spectranet.ca> Date: 12 Apr 1997 21:20:21 -0400 >woah! i am a huge fan of Eno and have been for quite a while but to say >that a band (U2) can do whatever they want with electronic music because >they worked with him.. that doesnt make sence to me... > >Don't forget that Eno also produced Talking Heads and I cant imagine >David Byrne and the gang doing techno... > It all depends on how you define techno. The talking heads where using sampling and sythns in the early 80's as was U2, depeche Mode, INXS, and many other bands of the era. Don't disregard a bands expereince with electronic media just because they can also play guitars and sing. 'm off like a prom dress HEEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHHEHEHEHEHe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: damian@xmission.com Subject: (mobility) Re: The Fifth Element / First Cool Hive Date: 12 Apr 1997 21:22:38 -0600 halo wrote: > > I just came back from watching 'the saint' .. anyway, during the > preview for some movie (5th element? not sure) they used a really > *nice* mix of first cool hive, if anyone knows where I could get ahold > of this, aside from waiting for the soundtrack, please lemme know - on > a side note, the movie looks pretty cool as well =) The preview for the movie kicks butt. I love it. However... it doesn't tell you ANYTHING about the film. I didn't notice anything about "First Cool Hive", I'll have to pay more attention next time. Now look at the following and tell me if you are still excited or not (don't reply to the list). I want to see it but I'm not that excited anymore - especially after seeing a still from the actual film that looked SUPER cheesy. ***THE FIFTH ELEMENT Even after French director Besson (The Professional) cut his 400-page science-fiction script in half, the on-screen result cost $90 million--part of which went for costumes by Jean-Paul Gaultier, Madonna's bra designer. Playing a New York cabbie, Willis wages a cataclysmic battle with Oldman, who describes his role as "Hitler meets Jerry Lewis." And the fifth element? It's a mysterious, life-giving force beyond the four basic elements. Besson refuses to say more until after the film's May 7 premiere at the Cannes Film Festival. "I just want audiences to sit down and go for a ride," he says. [ WHAT'S AT STAKE ] Its visuals promise to be as dazzling as Blade Runner, but Besson's obsessive secrecy could backfire; opening May 9 in the U.S., Element will have only two weeks to win over moviegoers before facing The Lost World's dino stampede. -source- Entertainment Weekly p.s. Anyone know of any good George Michael web sites? -- ** damian@xmission.com ** http://www.xmission.com/~damian/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samu Heinonen <samuhei@dlc.fi> Subject: Re: (mobility) can't we all just be friends!?! Date: 13 Apr 1997 11:18:30 +0300 (EDT) At 17.46 12.4.1997 -0600, you wrote: > the list has been getting a little old lately. it seems like there >have only been fights this last week+, and no one has been tossing around >anything of interest. from my viewpoint, no one has been enjoying the list, >and people are just get annoyed with it. everyone seems a little uptight, >so i thought it was time to ask some more stupid/silly questions! :) let's >lighten up and have some fun everyone! > >1. if moby were an animal, what would he be? (please, no one say >whale...be original!) he would be dog, i dont know why.. > >2. what flavors of ice cream would your favorite moby songs taste like? chocolate and strawberry.. > >3. if moby had a sex change, which famous female would he most resemble? ;) i dont know.. > > > cherilyn > > > > +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ | Samu | | Heinonen | | e-mail:samuhei@dlc.fi | | Finland | | http://www.dlc.fi/~samuhei | +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "talk dirty to me" <mutton@jane.penn.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) can't we all just be friends!?! Date: 13 Apr 1997 00:07:18 -0500 1. if moby were an animal he would be a leming 2. moby's music in general tastes like bubblegum icecream, although everything beautiful reminds me of the gum! 3. i gotta think about this...... jeremy ---------- : From: cherilyn <csymons@cougarnet.byu.edu> : To: mobility@xmission.com : Subject: (mobility) can't we all just be friends!?! : Date: Saturday, April 12, 1997 6:46 PM : : the list has been getting a little old lately. it seems like there : have only been fights this last week+, and no one has been tossing around : anything of interest. from my viewpoint, no one has been enjoying the list, : and people are just get annoyed with it. everyone seems a little uptight, : so i thought it was time to ask some more stupid/silly questions! :) let's : lighten up and have some fun everyone! : : 1. if moby were an animal, what would he be? (please, no one say : whale...be original!) : : 2. what flavors of ice cream would your favorite moby songs taste like? : : 3. if moby had a sex change, which famous female would he most resemble? ;) : : : cherilyn : : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MOBYchild@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) can't we all just be friends!?! Date: 13 Apr 1997 11:00:46 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-04-13 09:36:32 EDT, you write: > 1. if moby were an animal he would be a leming a LEMING?!?!?! moby doesnt seem like me to be an unintelligent follower. that might just be the anti-MOBY mind you. oh well, if ya ask a stupid question, expect a stupid answer. i think he would be a rabbit or a squirrel, BTW ~L~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman <keen@webaccess.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) update Date: 13 Apr 1997 10:14:07 -0600 .xAQ_ wrote: > i think we need to make a list of what moby is up to. it should only > include things we know of FOR SURE. i'll start: > > 1. "Oil 1" on the _Saint_ soundtrack 2. Producing the next Guns 'n' Roses album (bleh!) 3. "First Cool Hive" remix for the movie _Fifth Element_ 4. Scoring the upcoming HBO movie _Double Tap_ 5. Making a dance version of the James Bond theme 6. Possibly contributing to an upcoming "Clash" tribute album 7. Remixing artists including David Bowie, Blur, and Aerosmith 8. Working on tons of music that may be on his next album, or never released. Daniel Cerman http://www.moby.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" <hypcadet@spectranet.ca> Subject: (mobility) Trendy Electro Date: 13 Apr 1997 14:46:01 -0700 > ok, so "Hypercadet"replies to Scott Steg w/ the following: Hypecadet, but that's not important ;) > be jumping on the bandwagon, but depeche mode has been semi-electronic for a > while (as long as i can remember...but then again i'm not a fan), Yes they have-but I'm referring to the "techno" style that the newer stuff seems to sound like. I haven't heard the entire "Ultra" disc, but "Barrel Of A Gun" really sounds like it. I'm not demeaning them in any way-I'm just pointing something out. I've never been a huge fan (I only really like the In Your Room single with the Portishead mix) though.... > well they worked w/ eno (and have even joined him w/ some stuff)...so u2 can > do whatever they want w/ electronic music cause they have worked w/one of The Mike Flowers Pops woked with Aphex Twin-they still have no credibility. Megadeath worked with Trent Reznor, Birmingham 6 worked with Zip (of BiGod 20), The Smashing Pumpkins got mixed by Moby, and yes-Eno has worked with many, many people-but that doesn't mean that they automatically have a wonderful working knowledge of the genre. If they want to experiment, more power to them-but I don't think that they'll do it *well* (I could be very wrong), and I might not like it. On the other hand I might hail them as the greatest techno innovators in years. I think that U2 has certainly earned the right to experiment within the pop genre however. I don't think I really have the right to dictate what one musician can and cannot create however, I'm just ranting ;) > the "grandfathers" of > techno/jungle-dnb/ambient/trip-hop/electro-whatever-you-want-to-call-it > music (so i would say they have plenty of fucking knowledge) Ok-I'm sorry but like I said-working with someone does *NOT* give you the knowledge of that particular genre. Marilyn Manson worked with Dave (fuckin' rave) Ogilvie; and apparently they gained *NO* knowledge from his years of industrial experience. > sampler, keyboard or a kazoo, well that's fine by me...trust me i don't want > to think about the trendy little shits who are going to show up to see moby > because his video is on mtv and sing "that's when i realize it's over"...i Agreed-But I honestly don't think that Moby has the teenie-accessibility to gain mass-appeal. I play various Moby tracks for my friends all the time, but most of them dismiss him. As longs as I can keep listening to him-then that's all that matters.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: matthew james smith <mjsmith@students.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) can't we all just be friends!?! Date: 14 Apr 1997 11:26:00 -0500 (CDT) If moby were an animal he would be a spider...because.....moby, like a spider, has dedicated part of his life to the creation of something admirable and beautiful....the web.... And like a spider if he is not happy with this creation he will start over and re(mix)make it.....anyway that is my opinion...mjs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: damian@xmission.com Subject: (mobility) Revolver 7" Date: 13 Apr 1997 23:45:51 -0600 I'm not sure if this has been covered or not but I have a picture of the Revolver 7" on my web page. I apologize if this is old news. I know everyone has heard about it... but have you all seen it? It's pretty cool. My picture doesn't do it justice and the coloring is a little off (the devil is suppose to be red-red, not brownish). <G> -- ** damian@xmission.com ** http://www.xmission.com/~damian/moby.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader <srader@uci.edu> Subject: (mobility) Emptiness Date: 14 Apr 1997 13:20:53 -0700 Has anyone noticed that the sound at the beginning of "Come on Baby" (UK version) while Moby is saying "God.." is from Emptiness? I never made the connection-- Also, does anyone hear an influence from KLF's "It's Grim Up North" on Emptiness and Fucked Up? It's the "WOOOOOO!" vocal.. it sounds almost identical to "It's Grim Up North." Shaun . . . . . . . . . . . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dreamboy <ryu97@twd.net> Subject: (mobility) spin excerpt Date: 15 Apr 1997 16:27:44 -0400 (EDT) here is a tiny article about revolver from the latest spin magazine: moby my front punk rock attitude on his latest album, "animal rights", but the former technophile is a self-declared "sellout". when mtv programmers deemed the uk video for his single, "that's when i reach for my revolver"- a cover of the 1981 mission of burma punk classic- too violent for us airplay, moby didn't fight the power. instead he held a competition at his british label, mute, soliciting suggestions for a friendlier chorus, and shot another video. "we ended up using 'that's when i realized it's over, that's when it all get's thrown away'", says moby. "but my favorite one was, 'that's when i reach for my chihuahua, that's when he barks and runs away'". "the song is not about violence" complains mission of burma's clint conley. "it's about breaking barriers". [julia chaplin] love, ryu *ANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGG* "Even though the fish aren't anywhere, they still chase after them." *ANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGG* Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Chim" <bchim@mustang.uwo.ca> Subject: (mobility) Coming Back To Life Date: 15 Apr 1997 18:29:33 +0000 Hmm.....this mailing list has been quite complacent as of late. Anyways, I just want to attempt to breathe some life into the dead by discussing my recent thoughts about Mr. Moby. What I wished to express was how dissappointed I have been with the man as of late...I think ever since the release of The End Of Everything. I mean, I may get flamed for this(it is stricky my opinion), everything Moby has come out with since then has been, well, simply dissappointing. AR was AR, I think I've said enough about how I hate this. Voodoo Child's Higher, while some of you seemed to like it, made me fall asleep, and the Lopez single was not much better. From what I heard regarding the DJ Cakes and other stuff, they don't sound very different. Perhaps the Revolver remixes are better, but I don't know because I don't have it, or Oil for that matter. Little Idiot was great, but almost just like "The End Of Everything" just without the drums. But what I'm trying to get at is that Moby has seemed to lost his "cutting edge" when it comes to techno. Everything Is Wrong is one of my favorite albums of all time, but I'd hardly consider it groundbreaking in terms of innovation. I'm no expert on techno, but to me, it seems that the last thing Moby put out that was really "ahead of its time" so to speak was the Move EP. I'm not saying he doesn't have the talent or the ability to be ahead, only that it seems he has put less time into the progression of the music and more into emphasizing the eclecticism of his musical talents, and his extremist lifestyle. Indeed, I recall it being stated on this list on numerous occasions that Moby made AR because of his dismay as to the state of techno today, and indeed that the Lopez and Cake singles are his faculties through which he uses to illustrate to his listener his opinion of today's techno. My question is: what is wrong with today's techno, and if Lopez and DJ Cake are his examples of it, he is exaggerating quite a bit. Just look at artists like Orbital and LTJ Bukem and you can see how the music is growing. Anyways, if Moby does not release an "Animal Rights: Mixed and Remixed and Mixed again until the beats are so phat you can't mix 'em no more", I'm am soon going to be one very dismayed Moby fan. Sorry for this thing being so long.......just my $0.02. Ben ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ".xAQ_" <zbentz@d.umn.edu> Subject: (mobility) to: bornslippy Date: 15 Apr 1997 20:17:28 -0500 (CDT) sorry 'bout having to write to the whole list for this but i lost his addy. this is for Bornslippy: did you get that DHR tape yet? write back to me privately. -xaq- WHOisTHISdooinTHISsyntheticTYPEalphaBETApsychadellicFUNKIN? the shack of xaq-103.3fm KUMD-tuesdays 10pm-trance/happy hardcore/dance "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." "are ya done squeezing me yet?" <-ranma 1/2-> <-moby-> "women love all that rubber." <-some guy on red green-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gfunk1138@aol.com Subject: (mobility) more revolver articles Date: 15 Apr 1997 21:17:43 -0400 (EDT) i dug this out of last weeks Entertainment Weekly. (i apologize if this one has been posted before. i dont pay attention to all of the emails sent around) "Moby gives new meaning to alternative rock have gun, will trammel MTV viewers are accustomed to blurred brand names and bleeped words, so few would be surprised to hear that onetime techno star Moby altered the lyrics of his current singl, "That's When I Reach for My Revolver," after the network objected to the song's gun imagery. Fans, on the other hand, might not expect the adamantly uncompromising artist to radically alter the song's lyrics in a bid for MTV's approval "I have a kind of flexible attitude toward thigs," says Moby, who substituted the tamer "Thats when i realize its over" for the original chorus. "It's a shame," he syas,"but when you are reaching out to millions of people you have a certain strange responsibility." Compromising artistic integrity to reach a larger audience is not uncommon and it's hard to begrudge Moby in his shot at mainstream success. Problem is, it's not his song. Originally recorded by '80s post-punkers Misson of Burma, "Revolver" was an alt-rock classic long before Moby got his hands on it. So how does the band feel about the PC tinkering? "I have to absorb the MTV thing," says Burma bassist and "Revolver" author Clint Conley, who last year gave Moby the okay to change the lyric for a U.K. TV appearance but had no idea the edit would end up on MTV. "I suppose I though the damage would be contained." MOB guitarist Roger Miller is less diplomatic: "Changing the lyrics to the video is totally disgusting and against everything I believe in." Another rocker seems to have few such concerns about the techno pioneer's judgement. Axl Rose and Moby are discussing collaborating on Guns N' Roses' comeback album. Hey, where was Moby when GN'R wrote the famously offensive "One in a Million"? - Rob Brunner Entertainment Weekly #374 April 11, 1997" well there it is..nothing much new in there, but it is always relatively interesting. justin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader <srader@uci.edu> Subject: RE: (mobility) Coming Back To Life Date: 15 Apr 1997 18:20:47 -0700 >because I don't have it, or Oil for that matter. Little Idiot was Oil 1 is a great track. I just heard it recently. Although it might be too repetitive if you didn't like the recent Voodoo Child or Lopez stuff. I happen to love those songs... I don't see anything wrong with them at all. It's great dance music! >to me, it seems that the last thing Moby put out that was really >"ahead of its time" so to speak was the Move EP. I'm not saying he I'll agree with you here. My first Moby CD was Move and I was blown away. It's still one of my favorite CDs of all time. I'll always love the original ATINITBL. >exaggerating quite a bit. Just look at artists like Orbital and LTJ >Bukem and you can see how the music is growing. Anyways, if Moby Never heard LTJ Bukem but Orbital is my favorite group of all time! I don't like it when I hear Moby talking about how he doesn't like the scene now adays (and even puts down groups like Orbital and Prodigy) but what can I do about it? Animal Rights is a great rock CD and I enjoy it. I do wish he would come back to electronic. There are tons of great guitar bands out there already. 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If he did declare himself a "sellout"...it all depends on for what reason..if he's sending a censored vid to MTV to make more $$$..I'll start to lose faith in him...if he's doing it to get his music/message out..Then do whatcha need to do Moby. MO>'that's when i reach for my chihuahua, that's when he barks and runs away'". <laugh> They should have used that instead..and put Ren in the video..That would have ruled! ;> Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: (mobility) Coming Back To Life Date: 15 Apr 1997 19:31:10 -0500 MO>Anyways, if Moby does not release an "Animal Rights: Mixed and MO>Remixed and Mixed again until the beats are so phat you can't mix MO>'em no more", I'm am soon going to be one very dismayed Moby fan. MO>Ben We all know he's going to return to techno (didn't it say somewhere that he was going to earlier than he thought?)..? is..Should he return b4 he's ready to please the fans that didn't like his new turn?? My response? No...I'd rather he be happy than me...music should be about pleasing yourself(from an artist's standpoint)..not the fans..unless pleasing the fans pleases you. I do know how you feel though..there are some groups/artists I wish would release a new album..but for whatever reason..they won't..or it's on a back burner..etc...I just accept it and find other things to listen to in the mean time. Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: damian@xmission.com Subject: (mobility) US Mixmag Article Date: 16 Apr 1997 20:29:11 -0600 I just bought the US version of Mixmag today and it had a brief Moby interview. I considered typing it up for the list but it looked so familiar I thought I would hold off from doing that. Do these questions sound familiar? Who are you greatest rock influences? Do you feel the rock world is more open-minded? What's the worst song you've ever written? (he said "drop a beat", I love that song!) Have you told the truth? And if this has been published before... has it been published in the UK version of Mixmag? And if so, are they repeating articles for the US version... (I think I've seen one or two more that look awfully familiar). Does anyone know an inexpensive way of getting the UK Mixmag? BTW, let me know if you still want the article typed up, it's not long at all. (one page) -- ** damian@xmission.com ** http://www.xmission.com/~damian/mobility.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eekmaus@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Where is all the love Date: 17 Apr 1997 14:46:31 -0400 (EDT) "wow..die fledermaus!!! tell me what u think when you get AR..." -Sinjin Hello Cats... Well at last I have my paws on "AR". I was at Vinyl Solution in GR Mich...looking through the used CD's and there it was! Far out!...so I dove in and grabbed it. Actually I looked around the store all shifty eyed and stealthed my over to the "M" section and slowly released it from the clutches of "Marah Carey" and "Ministry". Yeah cool, so I had some extra cash cause I wasn't buying it new, so I got some other single of Mobies (hee hee) think it was "Into the Blue" Remixes....I was happy when I left though I had to go to work and couldnt listen to them....So the next day I was at Best Buy lookin' around and then I bought the Soundtrack to The Saint. Honestly I think my fave song so far is the one by "Luscious Jackson"..."Roses Fade". But "Oil" is pretty slick too. :P Still havn't listened to AR though I have had it in my possession for two days now...Friday. Friday is the day. My day off...I will let you all know what I think. Non Moby info...I am going to go see They Might Be Giants on Monday. Whoo hoo! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Where is all the love Date: 17 Apr 1997 21:03:56 -0400 (EDT) the love has gone down the drain and Moby would not be happy..i mean..i got love..i love love....and i love all..and i hope that Moby loves us enough to give us some concerts soon..dying to see him.....wel....bye..love you all....love, elie. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" <hypcadet@spectranet.ca> Subject: (mobility) Lyrics Date: 18 Apr 1997 02:11:12 -0700 Ok-I know this is my second post on this particular topic-but I'm *really* curious as to whether there's a collection of moby lyrics anywhere on the net. By no means am I a Moby expert (I've only got 13 cds-but I'm noticing myself going *MASS* collectist with his work) but I'd love get my hands on a collection of lyrics. BTW-If anybody knows that there definitely _isn't_ a lyric list let me know-perhaps we could start working on one.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" <hypcadet@spectranet.ca> Subject: Re: (mobility) Coming Back To Life Date: 18 Apr 1997 02:31:22 -0700 > AR was AR, I think I've said enough about how I hate this. Voodoo > Child's Higher, while some of you seemed to like it, made me fall > asleep, and the Lopez single was not much better. I cannot stop listening to _AR_; every track just begs to be made into a single. _Say It's All Mine_ & _Living_ are just *so* emotional that they (for me at least) rival _When It's Cold I'd Like To Die_ for pure intensity... I don't have any Voodoo Child releases, and the only Lopez one I have is _Why Can't It Stop_ & I must say that I really dislike it...Much too repetative & certainly not indicitive of Moby's talents... > because I don't have it, or Oil for that matter. Oil 1 is definitely not one of his better tracks-but I like it none the less... > his "cutting edge" when it comes to techno. Everything Is Wrong is > one of my favorite albums of all time, but I'd hardly consider it > groundbreaking in terms of innovation. I think it was innovative on a more spiritual level-the last half of the album (by far the better half IMHO) simply escalates into an almost painfully evocative experience. I'm listening to _God Moving..._ right now, so please excuse my rambling... > I'm no expert on techno, but > to me, it seems that the last thing Moby put out that was really > "ahead of its time" so to speak was the Move EP. I'm not saying he > doesn't have the talent or the ability to be ahead, only that it > seems he has put less time into the progression of the music and more > into emphasizing the eclecticism of his musical talents, and his > extremist lifestyle. Like I said before-I think he's putting more emphasis on emotion... You are right however, in saying that _Move_ was the last groundbreaking thing he's done-with the exception of the _Revolver_ single (part 2-with _Dark_)... > exaggerating quite a bit. Just look at artists like Orbital and LTJ > Bukem and you can see how the music is growing. Anyways, if Moby I recall seeing an article in which Moby complains that most modern techno groups dislike him-I think he said something like: "Prodigy, The Chemical Brothers, Orbital & Underworld have all had something bad to say about me; actually not really Underworld-because we're friends" It's not a direct quote-I think it's from Details US... > does not release an "Animal Rights: Mixed and Remixed and Mixed again > until the beats are so phat you can't mix 'em no more", I'm am soon > going to be one very dismayed Moby fan. Sorry for this thing being I'm not sure how well that would work for _AR_....I'd love to see a remix disc for _Little Idiot_, but I know that will never happen ;) Take care... hypecadet ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Stegenga <steg@ix.netcom.com> Subject: (mobility) Michigan. Date: 18 Apr 1997 09:12:04 -0500 Okay...who from this list is from Grand Rapids? I used to live there a year ago...we must talk. Email me personally. Scott Steg ----- I said to the teller, "If this is the future, I don't wanna know." -- Throwing Muses ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: matthew james smith <mjsmith@students.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) Coming Back To L Date: 18 Apr 1997 12:37:22 -0500 (CDT) > I recall seeing an article in which Moby complains that most modern techno > groups dislike him-I think he said something like: > > "Prodigy, The Chemical Brothers, Orbital & Underworld have all had > something bad to say about me; actually not really Underworld-because ......regarding The Prodigy, this is an interesting comment because on both of their LP's they have a section where they throughout their respect to people in the industry, and moby has been in that section for both albums....mjs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" <hypcadet@spectranet.ca> Subject: Re: (mobility) Coming Back To L Date: 18 Apr 1997 15:33:05 -0700 > ......regarding The Prodigy, this is an interesting comment because on > both of their LP's they have a section where they throughout their > respect to people in the industry, and moby has been in that section for > both albums....mjs I noticed that also-I'm going to try and dig up the actual quote and post it... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eekmaus@aol.com Subject: (mobility) WOW Date: 18 Apr 1997 16:26:32 -0400 (EDT) Hello.... I just finished my first listen to Animal Rights. This is my little opinion on this piece of art. I think it is Amazing. To me its like Moby is taking us on a little journey with this album. This is Moby hear him roar, through the good the bad and the ugly. It paints an emotional landscape and gives us further insight into the Man (artist) he really is. I know many people are dissappointed by the non-traditional steriotypical Moby tracks...but If you have ever seen him live...this stuff is nothing new. He can really "rock out" and puts on an intence performance. Unleashing all this energy...it's very addictive...I think the diversity he shows on this album is just what we needed. I dont think Moby should be catigorized...no one likes to be put into neat little packages..backed up into a corner with no escape...This opinion from a person (me) who likes anything from Hardcore Techno, to traditional Celtic folk music...(though I still shy away from country music and rap). I really enjoy the "new" direction Moby is taking...though some of AR is not on my top ten list of Moby likes...it has much to offer...something for everyone. It inspired me to thow on my Moby T-shirt and unleash the Rock and Roll Whore thats hiding within me......... ...I am Eekmaus! hear me ROAR! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "talk dirty to me" <mutton@jane.penn.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) can't we all just be friends!?! Date: 13 Apr 1997 13:15:52 -0500 i'm very sorry for offending your family i thought lemmings were quick minded. they do have some stupid traits but i neglected those. why a rabbit or squirrel? ---------- : From: MOBYchild@aol.com : To: mobility@mail.xmission.com : Subject: Re: (mobility) can't we all just be friends!?! : Date: Sunday, April 13, 1997 10:00 AM : : In a message dated 97-04-13 09:36:32 EDT, you write: : : > 1. if moby were an animal he would be a leming : : a LEMING?!?!?! : moby doesnt seem like me to be an unintelligent follower. that might just be : the anti-MOBY mind you. oh well, if ya ask a stupid question, expect a : stupid answer. : : i think he would be a rabbit or a squirrel, BTW : : ~L~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keri schaeffer <kschaff@foothill.net> Subject: (mobility) tidbits Date: 13 Apr 1997 09:57:32 -0700 stupid questions aside.that movie "fifth element' sounds really dumb. are movies getting dumber,or am i getting jaded? actually the previews didn't look "too" bad for" the saint",but i'll stick to the soundtrack. i guess there's something coming up in dallas on the 2oth. is that a live show,or a radio broadcast from somewhere/ is anybody attending,or taping this? i have not seen hide,nor hair of Moby live as i do not watch t.v. much. one thing really pains me is trying to classify a musician by his music on one album per se.i love u2,talking heads,etc.etc.i even like opera. if moby put out opera and it was good i'd like it. see? it doesn't matter what class you put music into cause if it's good your like it. it's just being kind of snotty saying "i don't like it" or "he's selling out" just because it's not of a certain genre. keri"if i can't dance....." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keri schaeffer <kschaff@foothill.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) update Date: 13 Apr 1997 09:46:44 -0700 Daniel Cerman wrote: .xAQ_ wrote: > i think we need to make a list of what moby is up to. it should only > include things we know of FOR SURE. i'll start: > > 1. "Oil 1" on the _Saint_ soundtrack 2. Producing the next Guns 'n' Roses album (bleh!) 3. "First Cool Hive" remix for the movie _Fifth Element_ 4. Scoring the upcoming HBO movie _Double Tap_ 5. Making a dance version of the James Bond theme 6. Possibly contributing to an upcoming "Clash" tribute album 7. Remixing artists including David Bowie, Blur, and Aerosmith 8. Working on tons of music that may be on his next album, or never released. Daniel Cerman http://www.moby.org/ happy happy joy joy....am enjoying "the saint" soundtrack especially "oil1"..but what is moby grunting "ummmmmmmm"? keri ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aaron Ackerson <spacecat@spideyweb.net> Subject: (mobility) Filter and Moby Date: 18 Apr 1997 07:02:40 PDT I heard on Q101 today that Moby might collaborate with Filter to do something on the James Bond Soundtrack. Moby and Filter... That could be a good combination. Aaron Ackerson Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Marina/6593/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Stegenga <steg@ix.netcom.com> Subject: (mobility) ATR and James Bond Date: 13 Apr 1997 12:34:02 -0500 I recall some early posts on some new techno/punk band called Atari Teenage Riot...has anyone heard what Moby thinks of them? I saw them last nite in Chicago (The Metro...3:30 am) and was amazed at the energy. I went to the show with this attitude that "this band will suck" but left suprised. Alec Empire is amazing with his blend of rapid techno with a Punk attitude. The show was quick but I never felt so energetic since I went to my last Moby show...thats how good it was. Except instead of raving, I was just trying to keep up with the beats (240bpm average) and occasionally jumping in the "raving mosh pit". I swore off mosh pits 3 years ago when I almost broke my wrist...but I almost broke my promise that nite... In other Moby info...the whole James Bond re-working thing...I'm wondering if he'll just contribute to the instrumental sountrack or if he'll actually do the title song during the opening credits...those are mighty big shoes to fill. Bond films have this tradition of opening credit sequences and they're fashioned almost like classy music videos with some occasional silhouettes of "nekkid chicks". Although that hasn't been happening lately. In all 17 Bond film opening credit themes...only two have been instrumentals. And the "hardest" tune would either be "Live and Let Die" or "A View to a Kill." This should be interesting. --- Scott Steg...I Love Carrots "Are there heartstings connected...to the wings you've got slapped on your back?" - Belly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "halo" <halo@humboldt1.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Mp3 Date: 12 Apr 1997 00:59:33 -0700 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BC46DC.C8877040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just bought a couple of moby promo singles ;) I'd be happy to sample = some of the mixes for ya if you want 'em peace! -- Scott Bruce <halo@humboldt1.com> ... "with the right tools, any rental car quickly becomes a = convertible" ---- At 09:51 PM 4/8/97 +0300, you wrote: >i was wondering if anyone has about 200 mbs of free space to net.. i = need >it. because i am thinking to start maintain mp3 site with some rare = techno >songs from artists like Moby, The Prodigy and i also would like put = some >rare finnish techno to in it. i am only dreaming , but anyway.. =3D) Samu, what do you want to do? I already have a collection of my own and = I have an ethernet connection and ftp server that I can run. I don't have much free space, but I can fix that real fast ;-). I could try to run a moby ftp site if people could send me the files.=20 Later, Matt Himes aka: _______________ ___________ __________ ___ ___ /_____ _____/| / _____ /| / _______/| / /| / /| |____/ /|_____|/ / /|___/ / / / /|______|/ / /_/__/ / / / / / / /_/__/ / / / /_/____ /_______ / /=20 / / / / __ ___/ / / _______/| |______/ / / =20 / / / / / |\ \__|/ / /|______|/ / / / =20 / / / / / / \\ \ / /_/_____ _____/ / / =20 /__/ / /__/ / \\__\ /__________/| /_______/ / |__|/ |__|/ |__| |__________|/ |_______|/ mrh160@psu.edu trey@psu.edu Trey's Mechwarrior Niche-> http://www.ecsel.psu.edu/~mhimes/ Trey's Other Mechwarrior Niche-> = http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/3527 ------=_NextPart_000_01BC46DC.C8877040 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <HTML><META content=3D'"Trident 4.71.0544.0"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY> I just bought a couple of = moby promo=20 singles ;) I'd be happy to sample some of the mixes for ya if you want=20 'em peace! -- Scott Bruce <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:halo@humboldt1.com">halo@humboldt1.com</A>> ... "with the right tools, any rental car quickly becomes a=20 convertible" ---- From: Matt Himes <mrh160@psu.edu> To: mobility@mail.xmission.com Date: Tuesday, April 08, 1997 12:08 PM Subject: Re: (mobility) Mp3 <HTML><BODY>At 09:51 PM 4/8/97 +0300, you wrote: >i was wondering if anyone has about 200 mbs of free space to net.. i = need >it. because i am thinking to start maintain mp3 site with some rare=20 techno >songs from artists like Moby, The Prodigy and i also would like put = some >rare finnish techno to in it. i am only dreaming , but anyway.. = =3D) Samu, what do you want to do? I already have a collection of my = own and=20 I have an ethernet connection and ftp server that I can run. I don't = have much free space, but I can fix that real fast ;-). I could try to = run=20 a moby ftp site if people could send me the files. Later, Matt Himes aka: _______________ =20 ___________ = __________ =20 ___ ___ /_____ _____/| / = _____ =20 /| / _______/| / = /| =20 / /| |____/ /|_____|/ / /|___/ / = / =20 / /|______|/ / /_/__/ / / / /=20 / / /_/__/ / = / =20 / /_/____ /_______ / / / / = / =20 / __ ___/ / / = _______/| =20 |______/ / / / / / = / =20 / |\ \__|/ / =20 /|______|/ / /=20 / / / / = / / /=20 \\ \ / =20 /_/_____ _____/ /=20 / /__/ / /__/ = / =20 \\__\ /__________/| /_______/ / |__|/ =20 |__|/ |__| =20 |__________|/ |_______|/ <A href=3D"mailto:mrh160@psu.edu">mrh160@psu.edu</A> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:trey@psu.edu">trey@psu.edu</A> Trey's Mechwarrior Niche-> <A=20 href=3D"http://www.ecsel.psu.edu/~mhimes/">http://www.ecsel.psu.edu/~mhim= es/</A> Trey's Other Mechwarrior Niche-> <A=20 href=3D"http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/3527">http://www.geocities= .com/SiliconValley/3527</A> </BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_01BC46DC.C8877040-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "halo" <halo@humboldt1.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) update Date: 18 Apr 1997 20:38:25 -0700 quote - happy happy joy joy....am enjoying "the saint" soundtrack especially "oil1"..but what is moby grunting "ummmmmmmm"? keri end quote - I hope that's not moby .. sounded kinda fem. to me peace! -- Scott Bruce <halo@humboldt1.com> ... "with the right tools, any rental car quickly becomes a convertible" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: owner-mobility@xmission.com Date: 18 Apr 1997 21:59:32 -0600 > ** The following letter bounced. > ** It has not been modified in any way. Sender: owner-mobility@xmission.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mobility i am not anti moby get off it. the letter was intended to loosen you up. loosen up!! you can argue your ability to personify if you like but i see no point jeremy ---------- : From: MOBYchild@aol.com : To: mobility@mail.xmission.com : Subject: Re: (mobility) can't we all just be friends!?! : Date: Sunday, April 13, 1997 10:00 AM : : In a message dated 97-04-13 09:36:32 EDT, you write: : : > 1. if moby were an animal he would be a leming : : a LEMING?!?!?! : moby doesnt seem like me to be an unintelligent follower. that might just be : the anti-MOBY mind you. oh well, if ya ask a stupid question, expect a : stupid answer. : : i think he would be a rabbit or a squirrel, BTW : : ~L~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: owner-mobility@xmission.com Date: 18 Apr 1997 22:02:02 -0600 ** The following email bounced for an unknown reason. ** It has not been modified in any way. Sender: owner-mobility@xmission.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mobility On Sun, 13 Apr 1997, Daniel Cerman wrote: > 7. Remixing artists including David Bowie... has this been released yet? i know the video is done and the origional version is on the "saint" soundtrack. this is probably my favroite song from the past three years, so i'm dying to hear the remixes. btw...did anyone see david bowie on conan o-brian a few days ago? it was neat-o! -xaq- WHOisTHISdooinTHISsyntheticTYPEalphaBETApsychadellicFUNKIN? the shack of xaq-103.3fm KUMD-tuesdays 10pm-trance/happy hardcore/dance "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." "are ya done squeezing me yet?" <-ranma 1/2-> <-moby-> "women love all that rubber." <-some guy on red green-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ".xAQ_" <zbentz@d.umn.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) tidbits Date: 18 Apr 1997 23:10:29 -0500 (CDT) > it's just being kind of snotty saying "i don't like it" or "he's selling > out" just because it's not of a certain genre. keri"if i can't > dance....." well, i don't much like AR ( i have the UK version), but i still bought it and do listen to it from time to time. however, it is my opinion (SP?) that he is MUCH better at creating techno than whatever it is he's doing on AR. he's not selling out 'cause he's always been into the punk scene, way before he was into techno. p.s. the message i just today recieved that i sent about moby remixing david bowie...i sent that last week and it just appeared now. what's up? -xaq- WHOisTHISdooinTHISsyntheticTYPEalphaBETApsychadellicFUNKIN? the shack of xaq-103.3fm KUMD-tuesdays 10pm-trance/happy hardcore/dance "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." "are ya done squeezing me yet?" <-ranma 1/2-> <-moby-> "women love all that rubber." <-some guy on red green-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ".xAQ_" <zbentz@d.umn.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) update Date: 18 Apr 1997 23:11:54 -0500 (CDT) > happy happy joy joy....am enjoying "the saint" soundtrack especially > "oil1"..but what is moby grunting "ummmmmmmm"? keri um...that's not moby. it sounds like one of his usual diva's. >8) -xaq- WHOisTHISdooinTHISsyntheticTYPEalphaBETApsychadellicFUNKIN? the shack of xaq-103.3fm KUMD-tuesdays 10pm-trance/happy hardcore/dance "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." "are ya done squeezing me yet?" <-ranma 1/2-> <-moby-> "women love all that rubber." <-some guy on red green-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ".xAQ_" <zbentz@d.umn.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) ATR and James Bond Date: 18 Apr 1997 23:14:49 -0500 (CDT) On Sun, 13 Apr 1997, Scott Stegenga wrote: > I recall some early posts on some new techno/punk band called Atari Teenage > Riot...has anyone heard what Moby thinks of them? I saw them last nite in I CAN"T BELIEVE YOU SAW THEM!!! i love ATR (thanks to ryu and others) and have everything i've been able to find on DHR. i HIGHLY recommend them and others like alec empire and ec8or. if anyone wants more info about DHR, write back privatly. -xaq- WHOisTHISdooinTHISsyntheticTYPEalphaBETApsychadellicFUNKIN? the shack of xaq-103.3fm KUMD-tuesdays 10pm-trance/happy hardcore/dance "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." "are ya done squeezing me yet?" <-ranma 1/2-> <-moby-> "women love all that rubber." <-some guy on red green-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jeff <tide1@gator.net> Subject: (mobility) Re; Trendy Electro Date: 19 Apr 1997 00:18:29 -0400 i get the digest...hopefully that will explain the delay of my response... >> ok, so "Hypercadet"replies to Scott Steg w/ the following: > >Hypecadet, but that's not important ;) it was late, sorry... > >The Mike Flowers Pops woked with Aphex Twin-they still have no credibility. >Megadeath worked with Trent Reznor, Birmingham 6 worked with Zip (of BiGod >20), The Smashing Pumpkins got mixed by Moby, and yes-Eno has worked with >many, many people-but that doesn't mean that they automatically have a >wonderful working knowledge of the genre. >If they want to experiment, more power to them-but I don't think that >they'll do it *well* (I could be very wrong), and I might not like it. On >the other hand I might hail them as the greatest techno innovators in >years. I think that U2 has certainly earned the right to experiment within >the pop genre however. >I don't think I really have the right to dictate what one musician can and >cannot create however, I'm just ranting ;) it is completely different having someone remix a song (example: moby may or may not have ever met the Smashing Pumkins, it does not even matter), but u2 worked w/ eno for years both he and lanois became as involved in the song development as the 4 members of the band (much in the way howie b. is involved in the new stuff)...i'm not saying i'm going to change your opinion of what they are doing, but i just wanted to stress that the examples you gave do not compare w/ the working relationship eno and u2 had...if they want to do techno-ish stuff (which it really isn't), fine (i will say that i don't think edge should give up his guitar and effects for a replica of liam howlett's(sp?) keyboard setup),to me it isn't about the type/style of music that matters, it is the quality... for a semi-moby related subject...has anyone been able the get the disk cd-rom to work smoothly?...i have the required hardware, it just doesn't run so nicely... -jeff ************************************************************************ Her eyes were like two brown circles with big black dots in the center. ************************************************************************ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samu Heinonen <samuhei@dlc.fi> Subject: Re: (mobility) update Date: 19 Apr 1997 09:10:07 +0300 (EDT) At 23.11 18.4.1997 -0500, you wrote: >> happy happy joy joy....am enjoying "the saint" soundtrack especially >> "oil1"..but what is moby grunting "ummmmmmmm"? keri > >um...that's not moby. it sounds like one of his usual diva's. >8) >-xaq- > WHOisTHISdooinTHISsyntheticTYPEalphaBETApsychadellicFUNKIN? > the shack of xaq-103.3fm KUMD-tuesdays 10pm-trance/happy hardcore/dance >"The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." >"are ya done squeezing me yet?" <-ranma 1/2-> <-moby-> >"women love all that rubber." <-some guy on red green-> > > > i am just wondering. where moby finds his beatiful vocal singers like Mimi Goese and Rozz Morehead etc.. +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ | Samu | | Heinonen | | e-mail:samuhei@dlc.fi | | Finland | | http://www.dlc.fi/~samuhei | +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dreamboy <ryu97@twd.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) ATR and James Bond Date: 19 Apr 1997 02:45:30 -0400 (EDT) At 12:34 PM 4/13/97 -0500, you wrote: >I recall some early posts on some new techno/punk band called Atari Teenage >Riot...has anyone heard what Moby thinks of them? i'm not sure, but i see many similarities between alec empire and moby. i listed them here before, so i won't go into that, but i'd really like to see the two of them collaborate on an album or something. they have many similar views of the techno scene and music in general. buy anything on DHR if you liked that show because [to quote mc hammer]: "it's all good." love, ryu *ANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGG* "Even though the fish aren't anywhere, they still chase after them." *ANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGG* Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" <hypcadet@spectranet.ca> Subject: Re: (mobility) Filter and Moby Date: 19 Apr 1997 03:23:34 -0700 > I heard on Q101 today that Moby might collaborate with Filter to do > something on the James Bond Soundtrack. > Moby and Filter... That could be a good combination. I'm not sure how that would end up-Moby always seems to be rather innovative, while Filter has always been a pretty shitty Stabbing Westward/Gravitiy Kills/nin/Sister Machine Gun rip-off... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" <hypcadet@spectranet.ca> Subject: Re: (mobility) ATR and James Bond Date: 19 Apr 1997 03:25:09 -0700 > of "nekkid chicks". Although that hasn't been happening lately. In all 17 > Bond film opening credit themes...only two have been instrumentals. And the The last bond flick (Goldeneye?) opened with a slow U2 song with "nekkid chicks" dancing around on huge symbols didn't it? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" <hypcadet@spectranet.ca> Subject: (mobility) Moby dissing Prodigy Date: 19 Apr 1997 03:30:12 -0700 I was speaking with someone earlier about an article where Moby speaks out on Underworld & Prodigy etc. I'd said it was from Details, it was actually the March '97 issue of Spin (with U2 on the front) on page 59. Q-Has there really been as much anger aimed at you from inside the electronic community as I've read about? A-Oh, yeah. I'm an utter pariah. You can't name an electronic artist that hasn't said something bad about me. Leftfield, Orbital, Prodigy, Chemical Brothers, Underworld. Actually, the guys in Underworld didn't really indulge in it. But they're my friends. So yeah, I guess that even after they mentioned him on both discs the Prodigy ended up dissing him at one point... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Liquidrae@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Filter and Moby Date: 19 Apr 1997 08:54:18 -0400 (EDT) hey today im going to see moby!~ :) he better not dissapoint me...:( well anyways. i will let y'all know tonight what i thougtt of his show. and im going to take pictures of the show and scan them and then send them out to all ofy'all interrested in seeing them:) ok::: luv..._____rae peace ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Stegenga <steg@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) ATR and James Bond Date: 19 Apr 1997 08:53:12 -0500 >> of "nekkid chicks". Although that hasn't been happening lately. > >The last bond flick (Goldeneye?) opened with a slow U2 song with "nekkid >chicks" dancing around on huge symbols didn't it? > Well...they were in the "scantily clad" category...its close, but not 100% skin. I own all the bond flicks, so maybe I'll look closely for some extra stuff... --- Scott Steg...I Love Carrots "Are there heartstings connected...to the wings you've got slapped on your back?" - Belly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Stegenga <steg@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby dissing Prodigy Date: 19 Apr 1997 08:56:30 -0500 At 03:30 AM 4/19/97 -0700, you wrote: >I was speaking with someone earlier about an article where Moby speaks out >on Underworld & Prodigy etc. >I'd said it was from Details, it was actually the March '97 issue of Spin >(with U2 on the front) on page 59. >So yeah, I guess that even after they mentioned him on both discs the >Prodigy ended up dissing him at one point... I recall when I met Moby for the first time back in '93 when he played in Grand Rapids, MI...he had recently been on tour with The Prodigy and The Shamen I believe. And I recall him mentioning he was at times lightly insulted by both groups as well because of his social uniqueness in the electronic music/rave/techno community with his Christian/anti-drug stance. I really respected him for that. --- Scott Steg...I Love Carrots "Are there heartstings connected...to the wings you've got slapped on your back?" - Belly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "misery machine" <5ROCHER@stu.jmls.edu> Subject: (mobility) When is Moby touring? Date: 19 Apr 1997 14:20:17 CST OK I am getting worried. Moby told me himself (I think that means SOMETHING) that he will be touring here (Chicago) sometime in April or May, and I have heard NOTHING. I am getting worried. Sorry if this question is redundant and repetitive, but I just think I might have missed something possibly? Thanks. RRR || "i only smile in the dark" || 5rocher@stu.jmls.edu delobbo101@aol.com || P| 242.cure.depeche_MODE.erasure.megadeth.moby.|\|||/|.nitzer_ebb.U2. || D| alice_in_chains.marilyn_manson.ministry.new_order.pet_shop_boys. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: damian@xmission.com Subject: (mobility) Who knows... / Dead Man Walking Date: 19 Apr 1997 15:43:33 -0600 Hello everyone...! Just quickly writing to say I'm sorry about the inconsistency in emails being send to the list. Yes, I too was surprised to see a few emails come through last night that were almost a week old. There is no explanation for this. :( However, as for those who are on the digests. I am working on making them smaller so you can get them more often. I've actually been trying for the past two or three weeks with no luck. However, no fear... I hope to have this solved soon. :) BTW, I purchased the David Bowie CD5 of "Dead Man Walking" yesterday with the two Moby mixes. I enjoyed both of them and am happy with my purchase. Nonetheless, I feel they aren't quite up to par with some of the other stuff being released currently. Here's the info for Dan's discog if it's not already there: DEAD MAN WALKING [David Bowie, Apr 97] UK CD, RCA, 74321475852 2 7:31 Moby Mix 1 3 6:00 House Mix Cheers! -- ** damian@xmission.com ** http://www.xmission.com/~damian/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss <eric_w@geocities.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) ATR and James Bond Date: 19 Apr 1997 15:11:55 -0700 Hypecadet wrote: > The last bond flick (Goldeneye?) opened with a slow U2 song with "nekkid > chicks" dancing around on huge symbols didn't it? actually it was half of U2 that did the music (Bono and The Edge) and Tina Turner providing vocals -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss <eric_w@geocities.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) ATR and James Bond Date: 19 Apr 1997 15:13:08 -0700 I too notice a connection between Alex Empire and Moby.. they both go against the norm of what is happening around them... plus they are both socially conscience of what is going out around them and speak their mind.. even if it means being disliked -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ryan Ligon <ligon@suntan.eng.usf.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) ATR and James Bond Date: 20 Apr 1997 03:01:04 -0400 (EDT) At 03:13 PM 4/19/97 -0700, you wrote: >I too notice a connection between Alex Empire and Moby.. they both go >against the norm of what is happening around them... plus they are both >socially conscience of what is going out around them and speak their >mind.. even if it means being disliked >-- >Eric Weiss >Epicentre Productions >eric_w@geocities.com > > Well both do dislike the present scene and actually put meaning behind their lyrics, musically they took two different paths away from the techno scene. Alex Empire is way more Drum&Bass than Moby. As Moby is way more conventional musically(instumentally and organizationally) than Alex Empire. Both are great though. -Ryan- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader <srader@uci.edu> Subject: (mobility) DJ Cake Date: 20 Apr 1997 01:30:41 -0700 Anyone on here ever see the DJ Cake single? Does it really exist? I have all the Trophy releases except this one. Does anyone know where I can buy it? Thanks for any info. I've been on this list long enough and still haven't read anyone that actually has this. Shaun . . . . . . . . . . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) DJ Cake Date: 20 Apr 1997 10:47:00 -0400 (EDT) hey....where can i get the Trophy singles? i've tried and the only one i could get was a Lopez single, but nothing else....later!! elie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dreamboy <ryu97@twd.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) DJ Cake Date: 20 Apr 1997 11:56:44 -0400 (EDT) At 01:30 AM 4/20/97 -0700, you wrote: >Anyone on here ever see the DJ Cake single? Does it really exist? >I have all the Trophy releases except this one. Does anyone know where >I can buy it? Thanks for any info. I've been on this list long enough and >still haven't read anyone that actually has this. i've got the dj cake single, and to be honest, you are not missing much. it is my least favorite of all the trophy material. i got mine from a local store that stocks imports, but i've seen it listed in cdeurope's catalogue. you can also try german music express or cdnow. they are the best online record stores i know of. run a search on yahoo for those places, because i don't have their adresses right now. if you still can't find them, then bug me and i'll dig 'em up. love, ryu *ANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGG* "Even though the fish aren't anywhere, they still chase after them." *ANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGG* Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samu Heinonen <samuhei@dlc.fi> Subject: Re: (mobility) DJ Cake Date: 20 Apr 1997 19:59:50 +0300 (EDT) At 10.47 20.4.1997 -0400, you wrote: >hey....where can i get the Trophy singles? i've tried and the only one i >could get was a Lopez single, but nothing else....later!! > >elie > > i am also looking for Trophy Records singles. only singles what i got are 1 (on 12" and cd) and 5 (on 12").. so if anyone is interrest to sell those Lopez and Dj Cake singles, i would like to buy them.. +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ | Samu | | Heinonen | | e-mail:samuhei@dlc.fi | | Finland | | http://www.dlc.fi/~samuhei | +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" <hypcadet@spectranet.ca> Subject: Re: (mobility) Trophy Releases Date: 20 Apr 1997 14:07:37 -0700 While we're on the subject of Trophy releases could someone post a list of them (in order)? I've only got number 2.. BTW-I've created a list of all the lyrics to all the moby songs with singing in them that I own-does someone have any space to stick 'em somewhere? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman <keen@webaccess.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) DJ Cake / Trophy Records Date: 20 Apr 1997 12:17:17 -0600 Shaun Rader wrote: > Anyone on here ever see the DJ Cake single? Does it really exist? > I have all the Trophy releases except this one. Does anyone know where > I can buy it? I know that Mutebank has it. I've ordered from them several times, and they're pretty cool. Don't get your hopes up for great music, though. The DJ Cake single is basically a very dry, minimal interpretation of "Hymn (I Believe)". All the Trophy singles are good in their own way, but Trophy4 is my least favorite. And while we're on the subject of Trophy Records, I am eagerly awaiting Trophy6 and Trophy7. Trophy6 was supposed to be _Oil 1 / Oil 2_, and I hope that doesn't get changed because of "Oil 1"'s appearance on the soundtrack for The Saint. It would be especially nice if there would be an extended version of Oil 1, or a remix. Daniel Cerman http://www.moby.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman <keen@webaccess.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) Trophy Releases Date: 20 Apr 1997 12:25:41 -0600 Hypecadet wrote: > While we're on the subject of Trophy releases could someone post a list of > them (in order)? I've only got number 2.. Trophy1 Higher [Voodoo Child] Trophy2 Why Can't It Stop? [Lopez] Trophy3 Emptiness [Lopez] Trophy4 Sugar Baby [DJ Cake] Idiot1 The End Of Everything [Voodoo Child] Trophy5 Dog Heaven [Voodoo Child] Track listings and other info is in the Moby discography at http://www.moby.org/discog.html > BTW-I've created a list of all the lyrics to all the moby songs with > singing in them that I own-does someone have any space to stick 'em > somewhere? I would be happy to host them on www.moby.org. Lyrics are the second most frequent question I'm asked. Daniel Cerman http://www.moby.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader <srader@uci.edu> Subject: RE: (mobility) DJ Cake / Trophy Records Date: 20 Apr 1997 12:10:37 -0700 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BC4D83.E60568E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >I know that Mutebank has it. I've ordered from them several times, and >they're pretty cool. Don't get your hopes up for great music, though. >The DJ Cake single is basically a very dry, minimal interpretation of >"Hymn (I Believe)". All the Trophy singles are good in their own way, >but Trophy4 is my least favorite. Yeah, I've ordered stuff from them before and have been pleased with the price and service. I haven't gotten a single from them though (only double CDs and such), about how much do they run? My least favorite Trophy would have to be the Emptiness single. The ONLY reason I don't like it much is the fact that there are only two songs on there.. and they both sound very alike (in the samples he used at least). Are the two songs on the DJ Cake single similar to each other? >And while we're on the subject of Trophy Records, I am eagerly awaiting >Trophy6 and Trophy7. Trophy6 was supposed to be _Oil 1 / Oil 2_, and >I hope that doesn't get changed because of "Oil 1"'s appearance on the >soundtrack for The Saint. It would be especially nice if there would >be an extended version of Oil 1, or a remix. I would love to get that Oil 1 single. I've seen it in your discography for the longest time. It doesn't seem like we'll ever see it.. 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I haven't gotten a single from them though (only > double CDs and such), about how much do they run? Cheap -- About 4 UK pounds, or under US$6. Unfortunately, shipping to the US costs almost as much as the release itself, so it's no great bargain. > My least favorite Trophy would have to be the Emptiness single. The > ONLY reason I don't like it much is the fact that there are only two > songs on there.. and they both sound very alike (in the samples he used > at least). > > Are the two songs on the DJ Cake single similar to each other? Yes. They are roughly analogous to the Lopez _Emptiness_ single, but not catchy in the least. Trophy3 is better. Actually, upon hearing Trophy3 and Trophy4, I wondered why they were wasting CDs putting out this crap. But it grew on me, though I usually have to be in kind of a bad mood to appreciate them. At least track 2 of Trophy3 is dancey. These Trophy CDs would have far greater value if they had more tracks on them. Moby has a wealth of great songs that will never be released, but somebody seems to think that it's okay to put only two mediocre tracks on each single. > I would love to get that Oil 1 single. I've seen it in your discography for > the longest time. It doesn't seem like we'll ever see it.. When I found out about it last summer, I expected it to be released sometime in the fourth quarter. The latest word is this summer, but I don't know if Trophy6 will be changed. I hope not, because it would probably be the best Trophy single if they just release it the way it is. I want to hear this "Oil 2" track! :) Daniel Cerman http://www.moby.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Liquidrae@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) i saw moby in concert yesterday Date: 20 Apr 1997 17:10:11 -0400 (EDT) hey people.... ok i saw moby yesterday..and he was really good:)))) he signed my t-shirt.. and i got his autograph ok well if you have any ?'s then just ask me:) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss <eric_w@geocities.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) i saw moby in concert yesterday Date: 20 Apr 1997 15:14:19 -0700 what songs did he play? was it more punk or techno? just tell us your whole experience... -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: (mobility) ?'s, Quotes and purchases Date: 20 Apr 1997 16:48:06 -0500 "So, what is the biggest misconception about Moby?" Moby: "That I'm a lot more rigid and didactic. That I'm a rigid nondrinking, nondrug-taking fascist." "I also think the other great misrepresentation that applies to both of us(Moby and Danzig) is that we're rigidly aligned to one musical genre. The notion that I'm just "the electronic-dance guy," and you're "the satanic death-rocker." " "Okay, but if I were a parent, I'd rather have my kids listening to Green Day than Mariah Carey. If I had 14-year-olds, I'd rather have them listen to White Zombie than the Dave Matthews Band." "The notion of Satanism fascinates me. I always get asked, "If you're a Christian, how can you be a part of the world of sex, drugs, and rock and roll?" I think that if I were Satan and I really wanted to separate people from their potential goodness, the last thing I would do is hang out in satanic heavy-metal bars. I'd infiltrate multinational corporations. What causes more destruction, people in their basement with a pentagram drawn in the dirt or multinational tobacco corporations?" Bits and pieces of the previous were taken from the Danzig vs. Moby interview in AP..Be sure to read it or pick it up. Lastly... So I'm doing my weekly cd shopping when I should find the Into The Blue single(CDMute179A)...even better was the price($1.00)..Only on the 3rd track as I type..but LOVE the cd so far...The Beatmasters Mix was pretty interesting/beautiful. Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dreamboy <ryu97@twd.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) Trophy Releases Date: 20 Apr 1997 19:31:00 -0400 (EDT) >Lyrics are the second >most frequent question I'm asked. > >Daniel Cerman >http://www.moby.org/ just out of curiosity, what is the #1 most frequent question? love, ryu *ANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGG* "Even though the fish aren't anywhere, they still chase after them." *ANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGG* Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dreamboy <ryu97@twd.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) i saw moby in concert yesterday Date: 20 Apr 1997 19:31:06 -0400 (EDT) At 05:10 PM 4/20/97 -0400, you wrote: >hey people.... ok i saw moby yesterday..and he was really good:)))) he >signed my t-shirt.. and i got his autograph ok well if you have any ?'s >then just ask me:) was his set more rock or more techno? what songs did he play. what was the crowd like? love, ryu *ANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGG* "Even though the fish aren't anywhere, they still chase after them." *ANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGG* Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJ22G@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) ATR and James Bond Date: 20 Apr 1997 21:00:33 -0400 (EDT) hey guess what everyone......I MET MOBY AND GAVE HIM A HUG!!! he is so nice......!!!!!!!!!!!!! -drew-dj22g@aol.com- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kcr4829@is.nyu.edu (Ken Rowe) Subject: Re: (mobility) Where is all the love Date: 20 Apr 1997 21:18:38 -0400 > >Non Moby info...I am going to go see They Might Be Giants on Monday. Whoo >hoo! > >I phtographed them when they played at Irving Plaza in NYC. It was a great show Ken > > > Ken Rowe http://pages.nyu.edu/~kcr4829 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader <srader@uci.edu> Subject: RE: (mobility) DJ Cake Date: 20 Apr 1997 18:18:26 -0700 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BC4DB7.3F670000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >but i've seen it listed in cdeurope's catalogue. you can also try german music >express or cdnow. they are the best online record stores i know of. Yeah, I finally saw the DJ Cake CDs online. I don't know why, I never try CD Europe (probably because it's so expensive). They also have it at German Music express. Maybe I'll get it through Mute bank. Everyone says it's the worst of the Trophy series.. I'll only be getting it to complete the collection. That's too bad. 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HE was playing some wierd bonga things and also Xylaphone. It was great sound. I was impressed. He definently needs to stop putting out stuff like AR cause alot more people just love his techno and that style music. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Liquidrae@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) i saw moby in concert yesterday Date: 20 Apr 1997 21:28:04 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-04-20 18:27:02 EDT, you write: << what songs did he play? was it more punk or techno? just tell us your whole experience... -- >> alright...well he played more punk...obviously cause he was putting on the show for his AR cd.. but when he put on techno stuff the crowd went wild...everyone absolutly loved it:) i mean it was just so more meaningful... even though it was a concert not a rave.., he should of played a lot more techno.. But, i wrote some more about the experience in another post... so if you have any more info that i didnt give..just feel free to ask:))) ___luv rae ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Liquidrae@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) ATR and James Bond Date: 20 Apr 1997 21:29:17 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-04-20 21:15:44 EDT, you write: << hey guess what everyone......I MET MOBY AND GAVE HIM A HUG!!! he is so nice......!!!!!!!!!!!!! -drew-dj22g@aol.com- >> where did you meet him?? i got to see him upclose yesterday..as i was telling y'all before.. i saw him in concert.. but he is really good looking..im not joking ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader <srader@uci.edu> Subject: RE: (mobility) Trophy Records / Back to Electronic? Date: 20 Apr 1997 18:32:40 -0700 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BC4DB9.41B068E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Seems like there is a definite trend of Moby losing his desire to make electronic music. I really like Why Can't it Stop? and I think Emptiness is pretty good. I now hear that Sugar Baby is the worst of the bunch.. Hmmm. Then I read on the AOL transcript that Moby hasn't abandoned electronic music. Is this an indication that he feels compelled to go back to techno? I got the feeling from the AOL chat that he really feels that Animal Rights was a mistake. I guess a lot of people don't like it (I happen to love it except for the explicit lyrics that weren't necessary). I feel sorry for him, he took a big chance and now he says that releasing a classical/punk album was his biggest mistake. I honestly thought Animal Rights was going to put him into the big time. I guess it just didn't happen. I sure hope he doesn't try to force techno if he doesn't really want to do it. It'll be interesting to see which direction Moby finally decides to go. 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Was there techno equipment out there on stage in addition to the rock equipment? I got the impression that his recent touring was purely rock. When you say that he played techno, was this on DAT tape or was it played live? Must be a strange experience to go from rock to techno. I assume the stuff is on DAT if he's up there dancing. I still haven't seen Moby live :( Shaun . . . . . . . . . . . . -----Original Message----- Sent: Sunday, April 20, 1997 6:26 PM In a message dated 97-04-20 19:42:24 EDT, you write: << At 05:10 PM 4/20/97 -0400, you wrote: >hey people.... ok i saw moby yesterday..and he was really good:)))) he >signed my t-shirt.. and i got his autograph ok well if you have any ?'s >then just ask me:) was his set more rock or more techno? what songs did he play. what was the crowd like? love, ryu >> hi..!! well ok he played more rock...but that was just because his new album animal rights.. so i can understand.. but when he played his techno stuff from like "everything is wrong" the crowd went wild...everyone was dancing and just loving it..Moby puts on a great show too..he knows how to dance and get into what hes doing. HE was playing some wierd bonga things and also Xylaphone. It was great sound. I was impressed. 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1997 20:01:19 -0600 Dreamboy wrote: > >Lyrics are the second > >most frequent question I'm asked. > > just out of curiosity, what is the #1 most frequent question? Lately, it's been this: Q: When and where will Moby tour? A: I don't know, but I'm trying to find out. If I manage to find out before everybody else, then I'll let everyone know by posting the information to the list and on my web page. Daniel Cerman http://www.moby.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: damian@xmission.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Trophy Records / Back to Electronic? Date: 20 Apr 1997 22:26:00 -0600 Shaun Rader wrote: > > Seems like there is a definite trend of Moby losing his desire to make > electronic music. I really like Why Can't it Stop? and I think Emptiness > is pretty good. I now hear that Sugar Baby is the worst of the bunch.. > Hmmm. I agree, "Why Can't It Stop?" is great! > I got the feeling from the AOL chat that he really feels that Animal Rights > was a mistake. I guess a lot of people don't like it (I happen to love it > except for the explicit lyrics that weren't necessary). I feel sorry for him, > he took a big chance and now he says that releasing a classical/punk > album was his biggest mistake. > > I honestly thought Animal Rights was going to put him into the big time. > I guess it just didn't happen. I kind of had the same feeling. The album promotion was good but the single releases in the US sucked. What a bummer. > I sure hope he doesn't try to force techno if he doesn't really want to do > it. It'll be interesting to see which direction Moby finally decides to go. Yeah, it seems as if he's been feeling down about it. I hope this hasn't been too hard on him because I don't think the album was a failure. I'm curious as to how _AR_ sold compared to _Everything Is Wrong_. It's also likely that he's taking some flack for changing the lyrics to "Revolver". :( -- ** damian@xmission.com ** http://www.xmission.com/~damian/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ".xAQ_" <zbentz@d.umn.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) Trophy Records / Back to Electronic? Date: 21 Apr 1997 01:01:18 -0500 (CDT) On Sun, 20 Apr 1997 damian@xmission.com wrote: > Wrong_. It's also likely that he's taking some flack for changing the > lyrics to "Revolver". :( well, i know that one of the origional members from mission of burma was really upset about the change and said that it went against what they were all about. i think moby should have tried to get a different song as the first single. i personally think the lyric change is really silly and a pathetic attempt to make MTV happy. (WOW! i just heard orb's "toxogin" on this stupid late night news show...) you would think that moby would be more opposed to changing his art for some faceless buisness goons. maybe he's getting soft in his old age. he seems to be making a few bad decisions as of late. i don't mean to totally slam him or anything. i STILL like what he's been up to, but i dunno how much longer i can stick around if he dosen't go back to being the kick ass dance fast question everything super hero he used to be. but that's just me...>8) -xaq- WHOisTHISdooinTHISsyntheticTYPEalphaBETApsychadellicFUNKIN? the shack of xaq-103.3fm KUMD-tuesdays 10pm-trance/happy hardcore/dance "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." "are ya done squeezing me yet?" <-ranma 1/2-> <-moby-> "women love all that rubber." <-some guy on red green-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Col <claird.ca2@CompApp.DCU.IE> Subject: (mobility) Josh Wink Date: 21 Apr 1997 09:40:02 +0100 I was just looking around the net there and i came across a site that had a Josh Wink remix of Go.When did he do a remix of that or is it just a mistake on the part of the Home Page? Just wondering. Col. "I am in a lost,lost in a fantasy, Only you,you can set me free, I am lost,lost in a fantasy, Come on and dance with me, Your love will set me free. " ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "talk dirty to me" <mutton@jane.penn.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Josh Wink Date: 21 Apr 1997 07:09:14 -0500 where did you find that, i would reeeeaaaaallly like to hear it. wink is a fav. jeremy ---------- : From: Col <claird.ca2@CompApp.DCU.IE> : To: mobility@mail.xmission.com : Subject: (mobility) Josh Wink : Date: Monday, April 21, 1997 3:40 AM : : I was just looking around the net there and i came across a site that had a : Josh Wink remix of Go.When did he do a remix of that or is it just a mistake : on the part of the Home Page? : : Just wondering. : : Col. : : "I am in a lost,lost in a fantasy, : Only you,you can set me free, : I am lost,lost in a fantasy, : Come on and dance with me, : Your love will set me free. " : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Col <claird.ca2@CompApp.DCU.IE> Subject: Re: (mobility) Josh Wink Date: 21 Apr 1997 12:41:42 +0100 At 07:09 AM 4/21/97 -0500, you wrote: >where did you find that, i would reeeeaaaaallly like to hear it. >wink is a fav. >jeremy Well, if you go to : http://tillbm.stu.rpi.edu/mp3/mp3search.html and type in Moby. The address for it is : ftp://mp3:mp3@130.89.235.191/c:/liedjes/dance & house/ You're better off using the first address though. It's an mp3 file by the way. Col. "I am in a lost,lost in a fantasy, Only you,you can set me free, I am lost,lost in a fantasy, Come on and dance with me, Your love will set me free. " ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Trophy Records / Back to Electronic Date: 21 Apr 1997 07:48:14 -0500 MO>i personally think the lyric change is really silly and a MO>pathetic attempt to make MTV happy. MO>you would think that moby would be more opposed to changing his art for MO>some faceless buisness goons. maybe he's getting soft in his old age. he MO>seems to be making a few bad decisions as of late. MO>-xaq- Look at it this way..he's made a much worse decision by making music...Think about his ideology..and then think about what making music...touring...etc does to that...Looking at it this way..I view the whole MTV flak as minimal(Besides..Consolidated had a vid on MTV(at least in Europe)..if that's not trashing your integrity..I dunno what is(fyi..I really don't care if they did send a vid..they've admitted they're hypocrites :) ))..Isn't Moby also bowing to the powers that be by releasing all these singles in different forms? (ie all the singles(and their remixes on another cd)..stuff on Mute, Elektra, Sub Pop..) It can be expensive to be a Moby "elitist"...and each time I purchase a single..yes Moby's getting his $$$..but so are the record companies..Why not put ALL the singles and their remixes on a cd(or two)..and sell that? Probably because the most you could charge for it would be a double cd($20-$24)...and wouldn't make as much if you sold them seperately($4-$8). Just my thoughts Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dreamboy <ryu97@twd.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) Trophy Records / Back to Electronic Date: 21 Apr 1997 11:54:29 -0400 (EDT) >Why not put ALL the singles and their remixes on a cd(or >two)..and sell that? Probably because the most you could charge for it >would be a double cd($20-$24)...and wouldn't make as much if you sold >them seperately($4-$8). i agree that this would be the best way to buy his music, but i don't think that moby has a whole lot of control over the market like that. releasing singles and various versions of albums is pretty much left to the record executives i think. i would like to see him do something more fruitful with trophy records though... love, ryu *ANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGG* "Even though the fish aren't anywhere, they still chase after them." *ANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGG* Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVIESA@uwplatt.edu Subject: (mobility) ??? Date: 21 Apr 1997 12:25:46 -0500 (CDT) .Look at it this way..he's made a much worse decision by making .music...Think about his ideology..and then think about what making .music...touring...etc does to that...Looking at it this way..I view the .whole MTV flak as minimal(Besides..Consolidated had a vid on MTV(at .least in Europe)..if that's not trashing your integrity..I dunno what .is(fyi..I really don't care if they did send a vid..they've admitted .they're hypocrites :) ))..Isn't Moby also bowing to the powers that be .by releasing all these singles in different forms? (ie all the .singles(and their remixes on another cd)..stuff on Mute, Elektra, Sub .Pop..) It can be expensive to be a Moby "elitist"...and each time I .purchase a single..yes Moby's getting his $$$..but so are the record .companies..Why not put ALL the singles and their remixes on a cd(or .two)..and sell that? Probably because the most you could charge for it .would be a double cd($20-$24)...and wouldn't make as much if you sold .them seperately($4-$8). so exactly what do you mean by all this? andy "run, run, as fast as you can, you can't catch me, i'm the gingerbread man!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Trophy Records / Back to Electronic Date: 21 Apr 1997 18:18:42 -0500 MO>Yeah, it seems as if he's been feeling down about it. I hope this MO>hasn't been too hard on him because I don't think the album was a MO>failure. MO>-- MO>** damian@xmission.com Most of his club anthem-era fans have long since danced away, but Moby isn't hurting for support, "I find the fan mail that I get to be really encouraging," he says. "Some of it has to do with music I make, but a lot of it has more to do with my politics, with the environment and animal rights. The people that write tend to be emotional, intelligent, well-balanced and striving. I love reading it. I don't want to sound insincere, because I'm not, but it's really humbling. It makes me want to do things for them." Like what? "Like go to their house and vacuum." Above taken from the AP article Doesn't seem like he's feeling toooo down on himself...and even though people are writting to him on the issues..wouldn't that be his ultimate goal(and a reason to change the Rev lyrics?)? Why put your ideology down on paper if you don't want people to discuss them? More thoughts.... Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm PS I'm thinking of writing Moby today...to have him in my house..vacuuming..would be so COOL! ;> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ".xAQ_" <zbentz@d.umn.edu> Subject: (mobility) moby's many singles Date: 21 Apr 1997 19:22:19 -0500 (CDT) on the subject of moby's singles: isn't "mixed-remixed" just a wonderful work? now if only we could get the same for the old-skool moby! if there is anyone out there that has the old stuff on vinal, i'd LOVE to get a mix from you...but i have a feeling that there isn't anyone. *sigh* the "go" mix is cool too, but it's just too much of one song for me. -xaq- WHOisTHISdooinTHISsyntheticTYPEalphaBETApsychadellicFUNKIN? the shack of xaq-103.3fm KUMD-tuesdays 10pm-trance/happy hardcore/dance "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." "are ya done squeezing me yet?" <-ranma 1/2-> <-moby-> "women love all that rubber." <-some guy on red green-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss <eric_w@geocities.com> Subject: (mobility) My friends got me an autograph Date: 21 Apr 1997 20:21:50 -0700 my dallas friends went to the edgefest show and basiclly hung out near the Edge bus where each artist were getting interviewed.. and they were getting autographs and stuff.. and they know im a moby-freak so they got me an autograph... f'n cool! i too will be on the look out for tour dates... being in a city with THE greatest concert promotion company (San Francisco / Bill Graham Presents) I usually find concert dates before a lot of other people.. also, i dont know if anyone else got theirs today but i got the Mute catalog update today... just a couple moby things for "sale" but i was very happy to open my mail and see the name "Moby" printed on a page <G> yupp, you guessed it.. im easy to please! -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss <eric_w@geocities.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) ??? Date: 21 Apr 1997 11:47:53 -0700 > Why not put ALL the singles and their remixes on a cd(or > .two)..and sell that? Probably because the most you could charge for > it > .would be a double cd($20-$24)...and wouldn't make as much if you sold > .them seperately($4-$8). because to get on to the singles charts it has be released on a seperate disc with less than so many minutes.. and there are all these stupid rules... plus they are all done (singles, remixes, etc) are done at different times.. -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Liquidrae@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) i saw moby in concert yesterday Date: 21 Apr 1997 14:26:35 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-04-20 21:45:56 EDT, you write: << Am I reading this correctly? Was there techno equipment out there on stage in addition to the rock equipment? I got the impression that his recent touring was purely rock. When you say that he played techno, was this on DAT tape or was it played live? Must be a strange experience to go from rock to techno. I assume the stuff is on DAT if he's up there dancing. I still haven't seen Moby live :( Shaun >> yah he was playing xylaphone... it was this thing that looked wierd...you hit it... but yah it was wierd to hear him switch back and forth..i mean i liked the techno music way better. well chat later:) yah he was up there dancing and banging on the xlaphone thingy. he was adding to the recorded music. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dreamboy <ryu97@twd.net> Subject: (mobility) alt.music.moby? Date: 22 Apr 1997 01:01:21 -0400 (EDT) not that it really matters much, but has the moby newsgroup been eliminated or something? every time it go to it, i get a "no such group" error message. love, ryu *ANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGG* "Even though the fish aren't anywhere, they still chase after them." *ANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGG* Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman <keen@webaccess.net> Subject: (mobility) Mute catalog Date: 21 Apr 1997 23:07:22 -0600 eric weiss wrote: > also, i dont know if anyone else got theirs today but i got the Mute > catalog update today... just a couple moby things for "sale" but i was > very happy to open my mail and see the name "Moby" printed on a page <G> > yupp, you guessed it.. im easy to please! What Mute catalog? Do you mean there is now a "Mutebank Statement #2", or did Mute just send a list of recent releases, or is this that DEF Moby info thing? Just wondering... Mutely, Daniel Cerman http://www.moby.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: Re: (mobility) ??? Date: 21 Apr 1997 23:27:50 -0500 MO>because to get on to the singles charts it has be released on a seperate MO>disc with less than so many minutes.. and there are all these stupid MO>rules... plus they are all done (singles, remixes, etc) are done at MO>different times.. MO>-- MO>Eric Weiss MO>Epicentre Productions MO>eric_w@geocities.com Does Moby really care about the singles charts though?? I mean..if he did..why not stick to techno...seeing how it's the "next big thing"...Also..being a fan..I'd rather wait for a "mixed and remix" album than have to purchase each single. Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman <keen@webaccess.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) alt.music.moby Date: 21 Apr 1997 23:38:50 -0600 Dreamboy wrote: > not that it really matters much, but has the moby > newsgroup been eliminated or something? every time it > go to it, i get a "no such group" error message. Not all news servers have it, as it is an obscure newsgroup. It was just starting to emerge as a place for Moby fans to talk, rather than simply being yet another spam-to group, when this Mobility list was formed. I don't think it has been removed, and it is impossible to entirely eradicate it from ever server even if some one tried. But it hasn't been used much, so its availability is not very good. Daniel Cerman http://www.moby.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eekmaus@aol.com Subject: (mobility) WOW Date: 22 Apr 1997 03:03:38 -0400 (EDT) i am upseat ...no one responded to my reaction to AR ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader <srader@uci.edu> Subject: RE: (mobility) i saw moby in concert yesterday Date: 22 Apr 1997 00:28:49 -0700 So can anyone confirm that Moby has changed his play list for the concert or did I just misunderstand his previous concerts? I got the impression that it was pure "Animal Rights" and maybe some punk versions of songs off of "EIW". This might really mean he's moving back toward electronic music if he 'changed' his set. 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Date: 22 Apr 1997 08:30:43 -0700 well if you wont your record to sell (which any musician wants) there are two major ways to promote it: tour and release singles.. now moby has said that he is disappointed about the small amount of fans he has.. so in an indirect way.. yes he does care about singles <G> -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss <eric_w@geocities.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Mute catalog Date: 22 Apr 1997 08:32:48 -0700 no no no.. there is still only Mutebank Statement #1... but i got 3 pieces of paper in the mail yesterday.. one was a list of recent releases (including all the sub-labels.. including mobys) and upcoming releases... then one was a list of dpeeche mode singles (on sale 3 for 10 pounds) and erasure singles (on sale 3 for 10 pounds).. nothing too exciting.. on and there was a list of the best 1996 mute release.. AR and Mixed and Remixed were on the list :) -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vince Varkey <varkey@utdallas.edu> Subject: (mobility) bring the noise Date: 22 Apr 1997 10:54:46 -0500 (CDT) So Moby has publicly stated that he is disappointed in the small number of fans he has? Taking that into consideration, is it any wonder why he chose to change the lyrics to Revolver? Why the hell are certain people here bashing him for it? Moby knows exactly what video exposure will do; it will show his music to fans who would have never heard of him otherwise. This is a good thing. So to Moby, no, you are not a sellout; you are still respected in my eyes. -vince ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: damian@xmission.com Subject: Re: (mobility) ??? Date: 22 Apr 1997 11:22:55 -0600 fishlips@ahbqs.com wrote: > > Does Moby really care about the singles charts though?? I mean..if he > did..why not stick to techno...seeing how it's the "next big > thing"...Also..being a fan..I'd rather wait for a "mixed and remix" > album than have to purchase each single. Also, regardless of whether or not Moby cares about the singles chart... the record company does. They know how it can help an albums sales and provide more publicity. Both the artist and record label have to try and please each other or the road will come to an end. I agree that things in the music business have gone to the wayside. Trying to be a collector with just a few favorite artists is a chore and money consumer. For example: Bjork who only has two albums (and one remix album) has a TON of stuff. I've basically given up trying to get everything of hers. It's too difficult and too expensive. I don't think she's worth all that trouble. But anyway... -- ** damian@xmission.com ** http://www.xmission.com/~damian/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bluegirl` <mlverma@odin.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) WOW Date: 22 Apr 1997 13:20:48 -0500 At 03:03 AM 4/22/97 -0400, you wrote: >i am upseat ...no one responded to my reaction to AR > pkok.... what did u say about AR... refresh my memory *---------*bluegirl*---------------------------------* *-"You get what everybody gets, you get a lifetime."-* *----------------|Death|-----------------------------* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" <hypcadet@spectranet.ca> Subject: Re: (mobility) Filter and Moby Date: 22 Apr 1997 14:23:35 -0700 > IMHO..GK is a SMG ripoff...btw..in case you aren't on the SMG Mailing > list...Metro will be out late June/early July..the mailbombing worked ;> They definitely take a lot from SMG-but SMG has been ripping other bands off for ages. I met them at an Goth/Industrial club in Toronto a couple of years ago and they seemed like ok guys, but not to much into the crowd. Is Metro the next album? After Torture Technique & Sins of the Flesh I kind of forgot about them (didn't like Burn one bit)... BTW-GK does the music for a Sony Playstation game called Test Drive: Off Road; if you can get your hands on the game stick it in an audio cd player-there's actually some *really* good short pieces on there (in addition to some Guilty remixes) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" <hypcadet@spectranet.ca> Subject: Re: (mobility) Collecting Date: 22 Apr 1997 14:27:44 -0700 > money consumer. For example: Bjork who only has two albums (and one > remix album) has a TON of stuff. I've basically given up trying to get > everything of hers. It's too difficult and too expensive. I don't > think she's worth all that trouble. But anyway... I agree-I've been collecting nin material for a few years & I'm up to about 46 nin cd's, 50+ cd's with Trent's name on them, and 20+ vinals; I'm finding myself going in that direction with Moby also-it's getting expensive. A friend is into the Bjork thing-he's got over 30 cd's....I think that the record companies are putting subliminal messages in radio waves that make us want to collect *EVERYTHING* by artists we like ;) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dreamboy <ryu97@twd.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) WOW Date: 22 Apr 1997 14:28:38 -0400 (EDT) At 03:03 AM 4/22/97 -0400, you wrote: >i am upseat ...no one responded to my reaction to AR i think it's because most people probably agreed with you. love, ryu *ANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGG* "Even though the fish aren't anywhere, they still chase after them." *ANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGG* Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dreamboy <ryu97@twd.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) bring the noise Date: 22 Apr 1997 14:30:38 -0400 (EDT) >So Moby has publicly stated that he is disappointed in the small number >of fans he has? Taking that into consideration, is it any wonder why he >chose to change the lyrics to Revolver? Why the hell are certain people >here bashing him for it? Moby knows exactly what video exposure will do; >it will show his music to fans who would have never heard of him otherwise. >This is a good thing. So to Moby, no, you are not a sellout; you are >still respected in my eyes. i agree with you. moby is not a sellout in my eyes either. the reason that he wants popularity is to have a large fan base and get his music out to as many new people as possible. i don't think his aims are to make money. when he changed the lyrics for revolver, he did it to let new people hear his music and not to sell singles. or at least that's what i think. love, ryu *ANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGG* "Even though the fish aren't anywhere, they still chase after them." *ANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGGANGEL'SEGG* Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: Re: (mobility) ??? Date: 22 Apr 1997 13:04:18 -0500 MO>well if you wont your record to sell (which any musician wants) there MO>are two major ways to promote it: tour and release singles.. now moby MO>has said that he is disappointed about the small amount of fans he has.. MO>so in an indirect way.. yes he does care about singles <G> MO>-- MO>Eric Weiss You've just proven my point Eric..thanks :) If we're not going to slam Moby for making music(thereby "trashing" his ideology)..why should we slam him for changing the lyrics to get a vid on MTV? :) Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss <eric_w@geocities.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) ??? Date: 22 Apr 1997 12:29:35 -0700 oh i agree totally... i also like bjork an i am amazed that every time i look at her singles.. i see a new single almost everytime that ididnt know existed... i think the record industry has decided to tap into the "completists catagory" (which too fit in)... that being that there are people who will pick 1-8 or so people or bands to collect and thats what they will spend the majoirty of their music money on... and so every week they release something.. knowing that the completists out there will buy it wheather it be good or bad.. just for the collection... -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric M. Goldberg" <gold@bridge.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) ??? Date: 22 Apr 1997 15:36:23 -0400 (EDT) As you were saying about not slamming Moby for doing what he did with the AR Video.. Im wondering though couldnt Moby have chosen a different song to make a video for.. sure ar was the main single but if they told me i had to change lyrics (not even curse words) then i would picked a different song... I havent listened to the cd in awhile but Come On Baby might have been a better choice.. its a good rock song.. did he curse?? :) i cant remember... Honestly i used to love the rock songs moby did from ETIW and HEAT.. those were more rough than the songs he did on AR.. well anyways i must go back to work! just my opin Eric ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dreamboy <ryu97@twd.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) ??? Date: 22 Apr 1997 16:10:28 -0400 (EDT) At 03:36 PM 4/22/97 -0400, you wrote: >As you were saying about not slamming Moby for doing what he did with the >AR Video.. > >Im wondering though couldnt Moby have chosen a different song to make a >video for.. sure ar was the main single but if they told me i had to >change lyrics (not even curse words) then i would picked a different >song... I havent listened to the cd in awhile but Come On Baby might have >been a better choice.. its a good rock song.. did he curse?? :) i cant >remember... i don't think that he cursed in "come on baby". i like that song much better than revolver anyways, and think that it would have been a better pick for a first single. i don't understand why he wanted to release a cover song as his first mtv single anyways. love, ryu "To be honest, I don't care because I only make music for myself and I just don't give a shit what anyone else does with it or how it's interpreted or where it's played or anything." -Richard James, when asked what the role of electronic music will be- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: Re: (mobility) ??? Date: 22 Apr 1997 15:04:24 -0500 MO>Im wondering though couldnt Moby have chosen a different song to make a MO>video for.. sure ar was the main single but if they told me i had to MO>change lyrics (not even curse words) then i would picked a different MO>song... I havent listened to the cd in awhile but Come On Baby might have MO>been a better choice.. its a good rock song.. did he curse?? :) i cant MO>remember... MO>Eric Maybe he or the Powers that be thought Revolver was a better choice cuz it's a lot softer/slower than the other songs(COB included)?!?! I'm curious..is the vid playing over in Europe..and if so..is it censored as well? Maybe I'll go back to when he was on 120 Min and watch it again...Cuz I remeber them joking about the vid being censored..and what a BIG joke it was...Either way...my point is/was...that for whatever reason Moby chose to censor Rev(at the request of MTV) and we should not slam him for that. Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric M. Goldberg" <gold@bridge.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) ??? Date: 22 Apr 1997 17:51:09 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 22 Apr 1997 fishlips@ahbqs.com wrote: > whatever reason Moby chose to censor Rev(at the request of MTV) and we > should not slam him for that. > > Ryan Well I personally if i were in mobys shoes i wouldnt change lyrics just to make mtv play my video.. at least bleep it out or as i said bring in a new video.. But still i cant believe mtv would make him do that because he wasnt cursing or anything close to that.. im sure there have been many videos that have 'evil' and 'bad' messages in them.. And plus if moby wants to get into the Rock scene he would probably want to have a less softer song and a more rough song.. He should of just taken WHAT LOVE fron ETIW (god i hope thats the name my mind just went blank!) that would solve his problem :) or he could just make a huge 4cd techno album! Eric ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: damian@xmission.com Subject: (mobility) Subject: BYE!! Date: 22 Apr 1997 19:37:47 -0600 *** The following email bounced. I believe this happened because the word "unsubscribe" was used in the beginning of the letter. The email program does this to prevent subscribe and unsubscribe messaging being sent to the list. The following email has not been modified in any way. Questions/Problems? Let me know, thanks. *** hey everyone, i just wanted to say bye before i unsubscribed and went home for the summer. i don't know what i will do without e-mail access...i think i'll have to sweet-talk my parents. i will try to stay current with the list by reading it off the net. that way, i hopefully won't miss any moby tour stuff over the summer. all i'm going to say is that moby had better hit the midwest hard this summer. i don't think he'll quite make it to the quad cities, but i might be able to get to a concert in chicago. maybe i'll be seeing you. good luck to the rest of you in getting to see or meet him. FYI, i'll be on the list 'til tomorrow sometime, but you can e-mail me personally for a couple more days. have a groovy summer everyone, and i'll chat with you all next fall! happy listening! cherilyn *%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% nothing's gonna stop me from floating... * % CCC HH HH EEEEEEE RRRRRR * CC CC HH HH EE RR RR % CC HHHHHHH EEEE RRRRRR * CC CC HH HH EE RR RR % CCC HH HH EEEEEEE RR RR * *%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% -- ** damian@xmission.com ** http://www.xmission.com/~damian/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: damian@xmission.com Subject: (mobility) Subject: BYE!! Date: 22 Apr 1997 19:38:35 -0600 *** The following email bounced. I believe this happened because the word "unsubscribe" was used in the beginning of the letter. The email program does this to prevent subscribe and unsubscribe messaging being sent to the list. The following email has not been modified in any way. Questions/Problems? Let me know (damian@xmission.com), thanks. *** hey everyone, i just wanted to say bye before i unsubscribed and went home for the summer. i don't know what i will do without e-mail access...i think i'll have to sweet-talk my parents. i will try to stay current with the list by reading it off the net. that way, i hopefully won't miss any moby tour stuff over the summer. all i'm going to say is that moby had better hit the midwest hard this summer. i don't think he'll quite make it to the quad cities, but i might be able to get to a concert in chicago. maybe i'll be seeing you. good luck to the rest of you in getting to see or meet him. FYI, i'll be on the list 'til tomorrow sometime, but you can e-mail me personally for a couple more days. have a groovy summer everyone, and i'll chat with you all next fall! happy listening! cherilyn *%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% nothing's gonna stop me from floating... * % CCC HH HH EEEEEEE RRRRRR * CC CC HH HH EE RR RR % CC HHHHHHH EEEE RRRRRR * CC CC HH HH EE RR RR % CCC HH HH EEEEEEE RR RR * *%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: Re: (mobility) ??? Date: 22 Apr 1997 20:30:36 -0500 MO>Well I personally if i were in mobys shoes i wouldnt change lyrics just to MO>make mtv play my video.. at least bleep it out or as i said bring in a new MO>video.. But still i cant believe mtv would make him do that because he MO>wasnt cursing or anything close to that.. im sure there have been many MO>videos that have 'evil' and 'bad' messages in them.. MO>Eric Matt Pinhead: ...And uh...neither of us is happy with basically the lyric change..but..you know...just certain things that uh... Moby: It's unfortunate marketplace reality MP: Yeah. Um Moby: At the same time I do understand what MTV's criteria is for...I don't know..restricting potentially offensive material. Because if you're going out to tens of millions of people, there are gonna be some people who cant deal with ambigous artistic expression. You know you and I might be able to hear a lyric like, "That's when I reach for my revolver, that's when it all gets blown away," and understand that it's not actually advocating gun use, that it's an expression of dispair and rage. But, not everybody has the critical facualties to be able to process that way. MP: Right... Above transcribed painfully..with a lot of ummm..uhhh's..and pushing the rewind button a lot from the 120 Min interview. So there's Moby's take on it..Maybe we all just need to realize that MTV's VERY hypocritical(from what little I watch..I've seen Warren G sing, "I shot the sherriff, but I didn't shoot the deputy" and ppl having sex in a hot tub(thanks to Real World))..and they don't have a clue(Amp is great at times..but the fact they just started it up proves that fact)...FYI..I don't see any difference between blanking and changing the lyric..it's still censorship. And..more than likely..Mute/Elektra paid for the video..and seeing how most companies look at the bottom line..they wouldn't of given Moby more $$$ to make another vid..just make him censor Revolver..Isn't the vid for Come On Baby out?? If so..maybe it wasn't going to be ready in time to send to MTV to play days b4/after the US release of AR. Which I think would be a critical time to let the States know that a new Moby album is (coming) out. Just my ramblings, Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman <keen@webaccess.net> Subject: (mobility) Moby's MTV compromise Date: 22 Apr 1997 21:28:37 -0600 [was Re: (mobility) ???] Eric M. Goldberg wrote: > Im wondering though couldnt Moby have chosen a different song to make a > video for.. sure ar was the main single but if they told me i had to > change lyrics (not even curse words) then i would picked a different > song... I havent listened to the cd in awhile but Come On Baby might have > been a better choice.. its a good rock song.. did he curse?? :) i cant > remember... I don't think he cursed in "Come On Baby" except for a whispered but distinct "fuck me" right before the guitar instrumental part. Daniel Cerman http://www.moby.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eekmaus@aol.com Subject: (mobility) whatev Date: 23 Apr 1997 00:51:39 -0400 (EDT) not really i said i liked it most people hate it from what i hear.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Col <claird.ca2@CompApp.DCU.IE> Subject: (mobility) Video Date: 23 Apr 1997 13:36:47 +0100 >Im wondering though couldnt Moby have chosen a different song to make a >video for.. sure ar was the main single but if they told me i had to >change lyrics (not even curse words) then i would picked a different >song... I havent listened to the cd in awhile but Come On Baby might have >been a better choice.. its a good rock song.. did he curse?? :) i cant >remember... He did make a video for Come On Baby. I saw it on Top Of The Pops over here in Europe.Top Of The Pops is a weekly half hour music show in Britain(I live in Ireland and get it here) that counts down the top 40 singles and has a few live performances on it. They showed the video a couple of times.Never saw it on MTV though. It basically him in a room,with a chair with something painted on his chest.I can't really remember it, it was a few months ago now. He even did it live.He had the words "PORN STAR " painted on his chest for that one. As for showing revolver over here, they used to show it where he sang the normal lyrics, i.e "That's when I reach for my revolver,that's when it all gets blown away," but since the US banned them and changed them, they have reverted to the alternative ones. Just thought I'd clear that up....... Col. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREENWOOD@abbinstuk.com (Mark Greenwood) Subject: (mobility) Revolver lyric change Date: 23 Apr 1997 18:13 GMT Whether or not you agree with the decision (Moby's?) to change the Revolver lyrics for MTV, the question that's begging to be asked is: Does Moby have the right to change the lyric to a song that he didn't even write? My gut reaction is 'no way!', it's not his and he shouldn't have even thought about it. But then the Fugees sang of 'Killing THEM softly' which makes me wonder if it can't be a good thing sometimes. I guess if Moby's intentions had been good I'd have said yes, but as it was only to get the video on MTV and make more money by promoting the album better, I have a little trouble with it. Not forgetting that 'Next Is The E' became 'I Feel It', because the mis-intepreted meaning to the first was objected to!! 'E-zer Goode, E-zer Goode, he's Ebeneezer Goode' (as The Shamen once said). Love. Mark. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: (mobility) Revolver lyric change Date: 23 Apr 1997 15:03:30 -0500 MO>Does Moby have the right to change the lyric to a song that he MO>didn't even write? Well..he did ask them..and they did ok it for the radio..but were irked when it was censored in the video. MO>I guess if Moby's intentions had MO>been good I'd have said yes, but as it was only to get the MO>video on MTV and make more money by promoting the album better, MO>I have a little trouble with it. MO>Love. Mark. You're partly right and partly wrong imho...Yes..I'm sure Moby censored the vid to promote the album..but I don't think the reason was money..I think it was just for exposure..more fans...If he wanted to make more $$$..he would have made catchy 3 minute pop songs that'd stick in the top 10 for months. Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aaron Ackerson <spacecat@spideyweb.net> Subject: (mobility) Moby in Chicago!!! Date: 23 Apr 1997 06:32:37 PDT Moby is going to play at Q101's Jamboree '97 on May 25th at the new World Music Theatre! Tickets are $25. They go on sale THIS SATURDAY at 10:00 AM Central. The Ticketmaster number to call is (312)559-1212. Some of the other artists playing will be Erasure, Bjork, Beck, Republica, Jamiroquai (sp?) and others. If I end up going, this will be the first rock concert I've been to, so I have a few questions. How does one go about meeting the performers? Does any lip-syncing go on at Q101 concerts? Will there be more that one stage? Aaron Ackerson Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Marina/6593/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Stegenga <steg@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby in Chicago!!! Date: 23 Apr 1997 19:46:10 -0500 Regarding Moby in Chicago...Aaron Sez. >If I end up going, this will be the first rock concert I've been to, so I >have a few questions. How does one go about meeting the >performers? Either its as easy as walking into the backstage area or seeing the actual artist amongst the crowd or it will be the most difficult time you'll ever have. If a backstage pass is needed for the backstage, you better have a good connection or you're screwed. Security guards act stupid because they're told to. They can only let certain people in and so on...and if you're a male, make that twice as difficult (no offense to our female members, but I've seen it before. Ladies first.) > Does any lip-syncing go on at Q101 concerts? That depends on the concerts. The fact its Q101 doesn't mean a thing. It all depends on the artist. My guess is that NO lip synching. >Will there be more that one stage? Not sure...the lineup is huge...almost 13 bands I think. So they'll play very short sets or have a few stages. The lineup so far I recall is... Moby...Bjork...Jamiroquai...Beck...Social Distortion...Erasure...Soul Coughing...Republica...James...Veruca Salt...and thats ten so far. I'm sure $25 is worth for some of the groups? --- Scott Steg...I Love Carrots "Are there heartstings connected...to the wings you've got slapped on your back?" - Belly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: damian@xmission.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby in Chicago!!! Date: 23 Apr 1997 20:31:51 -0600 Previously: > Moby...Bjork...Jamiroquai...Beck...Social Distortion...Erasure...Soul > Coughing...Republica...James...Veruca Salt...and thats ten so far. I can't believe!!! You guys just don't know how lucky you are... Erasure (my number one group), Moby (my second), Bjork & James (more favorites of mine), plus those others that I have enjoyed a song or two with. And the price being charged is nothing. <G> Gads, maybe I should go... hmmm $318 for a round trip flight from SLC. A little expensive for me but it's still tempting... -- ** damian@xmission.com ** http://www.xmission.com/~damian/dedicatn.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss <eric_w@geocities.com> Subject: (mobility) Getting autographs WAS Moby in Chicago!!! Date: 24 Apr 1997 05:07:37 -0700 who ever said you need backstage passes to meet a performer is so far from the truth.. i try to get an autograph from every performer i see.. and i have been around 80% successful with no backstage passes.. my tricks for when you see moby... if its at a new venue... get their early... learn the way of the land... i usually walk around the entire building before i go in... figure out where the tour buses are... learn whats roped off (backstage) and whats not (free territory)... if its a major concert (multi-acts, ie: lollapalooza, or a stadium show) figure out where the radio station buses are (for a show like lollapalooza the artists usually give interviews during the person before them)... okay during the show.. have fun man.. but after the show.. be prepared to book out of there and to the buses... if possible try to catch the performers before they hit the bus... they will probably ignore you and still go into the bus (which i understand) but they know there is someone waiting for an autograph and you can expect someone to stick their head out in 10 minutes or so... then again.. i had to wait at Lyle Lovit (yes i saw Lyle Lovit with my parents for my moms b'day :) bus for over 2 hours.. but it was worth it... it ended up to be me and one other girl.. and he stopped and talked to us.. told us that if he knew we were out there he would have had them saved him some pizza.. he was really cool... dont be too pushy.. ive seen people get annoyed and start assaulting the bus and what have you.. this people always seem to go away sans autograph... there you go.. tips from the pro... -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Stegenga <steg@ix.netcom.com> Subject: (mobility) Moby's Chicago Gig... Date: 24 Apr 1997 10:13:58 -0500 I found the entire lineup for Moby's Chicago appearance. I sure hope he comes again for a smaller venue or this show will sell out in 30 seconds on Saturday morning at 10am. Here's the list in no particular order...and my interest in seeing them. The Verve Pipe (I used to live in East Lansing and drink beer with the lead singer) Echo and the Bunnymen (I've seen Elektrafixion, same thing, should be cool) Republica (I'm curious to see them, any opinions here?) Social Distortion (Not sure yet...been around maybe too long) The Cardigans (Not.) Soul Coughing (Definitely Yes...jazzy rap) Jamiroquai (Um, can we say Stevie Wonder?) The Mighty Mighty Bosstones (I like ska, but not their style of ska) Veruca Salt (my equation woman with guitar = turn on) James (Always a pleasure...I'll be going to their local gig two days after this show) Beck (does he ever stop touring?) Bjork (how will the digital stuff transfer to a live show) ...and last but not least Moby (no contest, my fave on this bill.) All for $25. Damn! This will definitely sell out the day it goes on sale. I don't want to wake up early Saturday morning, but I'm gonna have to now, right? ERASURE Scott Steg ----- I said to the teller, "If this is the future, I don't wanna know." -- Throwing Muses ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ".xAQ_" <zbentz@d.umn.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby's Chicago Gig... Date: 24 Apr 1997 12:42:37 -0500 (CDT) On Thu, 24 Apr 1997, Scott Stegenga wrote: > Republica (I'm curious to see them, any opinions here?) i don't like them, but they're better than nothing. they are just poppy techno/industrial for your little sister kinda stuff. > The Cardigans (Not.) i've only heard the one single, but i find it amusing and nice. >8) > Soul Coughing (Definitely Yes...jazzy rap) i'd love to see there guys live! i've never been really into them, but i've heard both albums (are there only two?) and like thme. they make for really cool jungle remixes! > Bjork (how will the digital stuff transfer to a live show) as i've said here before, i saw her show in nov. of 95. it was really bad. just here trying to be cute and not being at all enthusiastic. but goldie opened and he was awesome. moby's show is still probably one of the best i've been to. i saw him on the tour before this and it was great! lots of techno and just enough guitar to break it up a bit. i'd like to see him this time around, but i don't think it'll be half as good. -xaq- WHOisTHISdooinTHISsyntheticTYPEalphaBETApsychadellicFUNKIN? the shack of xaq-103.3fm KUMD-tuesdays 10pm-trance/happy hardcore/dance "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." "are ya done squeezing me yet?" <-ranma 1/2-> <-moby-> "women love all that rubber." <-some guy on red green-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ".xAQ_" <zbentz@d.umn.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby's Chicago Gig... Date: 24 Apr 1997 12:42:37 -0500 (CDT) On Thu, 24 Apr 1997, Scott Stegenga wrote: > Republica (I'm curious to see them, any opinions here?) i don't like them, but they're better than nothing. they are just poppy techno/industrial for your little sister kinda stuff. > The Cardigans (Not.) i've only heard the one single, but i find it amusing and nice. >8) > Soul Coughing (Definitely Yes...jazzy rap) i'd love to see there guys live! i've never been really into them, but i've heard both albums (are there only two?) and like thme. they make for really cool jungle remixes! > Bjork (how will the digital stuff transfer to a live show) as i've said here before, i saw her show in nov. of 95. it was really bad. just here trying to be cute and not being at all enthusiastic. but goldie opened and he was awesome. moby's show is still probably one of the best i've been to. i saw him on the tour before this and it was great! lots of techno and just enough guitar to break it up a bit. i'd like to see him this time around, but i don't think it'll be half as good. -xaq- WHOisTHISdooinTHISsyntheticTYPEalphaBETApsychadellicFUNKIN? the shack of xaq-103.3fm KUMD-tuesdays 10pm-trance/happy hardcore/dance "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." "are ya done squeezing me yet?" <-ranma 1/2-> <-moby-> "women love all that rubber." <-some guy on red green-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Stegenga <steg@ix.netcom.com> Subject: (mobility) Moby's Chicago Gig... Date: 24 Apr 1997 13:26:58 -0500 Regarding the Moby Tour in Chicago...xAQ noted along with me... >> Republica (I'm curious to see them, any opinions here?) >i don't like them, but they're better than nothing. they are just poppy >techno/industrial for your little sister kinda stuff. I guess I'm curious to see them in a "guilty pleasure" kind of way. Maybe its that way the lead singer flaunts her stuff around...oh well. >> The Cardigans (Not.) >i've only heard the one single, but i find it amusing and nice. >8) I guess my opinion of The Cardigans is no opinion at all. I still have yet to hear another single from their album come out and I hear they cover a few Black Sabbath songs in their live set...gotta admit, I'm an early-years Sabbath fan. And I also hear from their fans that their first CD is better then their latest/second one. >> Soul Coughing (Definitely Yes...jazzy rap) >i'd love to see these guys live! i've never been really into them, but >i've heard both albums (are there only two?) and like them. they make for >really cool jungle remixes! This live/jazzy stuff is really catchy...I must admit I even like that Ben Folds Five group from North Carolina. Maybe because I used to listen to Elton John as a kid. >> Bjork (how will the digital stuff transfer to a live show) >as i've said here before, i saw her show in nov. of 95. it was really >bad. just here trying to be cute and not being at all enthusiastic. Its electronic stuff like this that needs more stage stuff. I've seen Depeche Mode live several times because the stage stuff really adds to the show. Okay, so what if its several videos of them in the desert or some stuff like that...it adds to the show. This new CD of theirs, "Ultra"...I can understand why they won't tour for it...its good, but a bit too moody for their live set. Now if they just did a "Greatest Hits" tour then hey, do it man. >moby's show is still probably one of the best i've been to. i saw him on >the tour before this and it was great! lots of techno and just enough >guitar to break it up a bit. i'd like to see him this time around, but i >don't think it'll be half as good. I've seen Moby live 3 times and each time was like a "spiritually orgasmic" experience (interesting description, I know). But with this new material, I'm looking forward to just the sheer raw power of it all. When I saw him do stuff like "What Love" and "All That I Need Is To Be Loved" it was just RAW, you know? >WHOisTHISdooinTHISsyntheticTYPEalphaBETApsychadellicFUNKIN? I just now realised this is from "elektrobank" by the Chemical Brothers. Which reminds me...anyone here going to that Chemical Brothers/Orb show in Chicago this Saturday? Has anyone here seen either of them live? Tell me stuff to expect! The closest I've come to seeing them live was when Alex Paterson DJ'ed before Meat Beat Manifesto recently. Scott Steg ----- I said to the teller, "If this is the future, I don't wanna know." -- Throwing Muses ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ".xAQ_" <zbentz@d.umn.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby's Chicago Gig... Date: 24 Apr 1997 14:23:08 -0500 (CDT) On Thu, 24 Apr 1997, Scott Stegenga wrote: > >WHOisTHISdooinTHISsyntheticTYPEalphaBETApsychadellicFUNKIN? > I just now realised this is from "elektrobank" by the Chemical Brothers. great album! i have it both on CD and 12". > Which reminds me...anyone here going to that Chemical Brothers/Orb show in > Chicago this Saturday? Has anyone here seen either of them live? Tell me i'm going to see chem. bros. this sunday in minneapolis! woop! does anyone know who's opening for them there? -xaq- WHOisTHISdooinTHISsyntheticTYPEalphaBETApsychadellicFUNKIN? the shack of xaq-103.3fm KUMD-tuesdays 10pm-trance/happy hardcore/dance "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." "are ya done squeezing me yet?" <-ranma 1/2-> <-moby-> "women love all that rubber." <-some guy on red green-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "-jAdenX-" <BARONEC@email.rosary.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) Chicago Chem.Bros/Orb show Date: 24 Apr 1997 20:48:35 CST > Which reminds me...anyone here going to that Chemical Brothers/Orb show in > Chicago this Saturday? Has anyone here seen either of them live? Tell me I am going to the concert. I will write up a description on Monday. It sucks because I have to get up EARLY on Sat. to get tix for Jamboree and then go to the concert which starts at 9. Long day for me, I'll be glad to sleep on Sunday. -Carmen ********************************************************* Baronec@email.rosary.edu JadenX@aol.com CHECK OUT MY WAVERACE PAGE!!!!!! TIMES AND SCORES NOW UP! http://members.aol.com/JadenX/waverace.html ********************************************************** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "JadenX" <BARONEC@email.rosary.edu> Subject: (mobility) Moby in Chicago Date: 24 Apr 1997 20:53:20 CST Hey everybody. Just to comment on the Q101 jamboree, which I will be attending with my best West Side boy. I was at the first Q101 jamboree 2 years ago. It was good, but the weather made it terrible. Also, it is at the World Music Theater, which I think is one of the worst places for sound. I expect not to see Moby other than on- stage. It is real hard to get backstage without a pass, I've tried at the World many-a-times. This year does have the best lineup so I'm pumped. If anyone from the list wants to get together at the concert, email me and let me know. ********************************************************* Baronec@email.rosary.edu JadenX@aol.com CHECK OUT MY WAVERACE PAGE!!!!!! TIMES AND SCORES NOW UP! http://members.aol.com/JadenX/waverace.html ********************************************************** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bluegirl <mlverma@odin.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: (mobility) Chicago tickets Date: 26 Apr 1997 10:26:28 -0500 (CDT) the best i could get was lawn because seats sold out within 15min. i was at TicketMaster before 10 but there was a 15min block on ticket sales... grrr... im dissapointed *----*bluegirl*-------------------------------------* *-"You get what everybody gets, you get a lifetime"-* *------------------|Death|--------------------------* ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aaron Ackerson <spacecat@spideyweb.net> Subject: (mobility) I've got my tickets! Date: 25 Apr 1997 22:39:18 PDT I got tickets for May 25. The operator said they are lawn seats behind the pavilion. I asked her if I would be able to see the performers and I think she said probably. Can anyone who has been to the World Music Theatre tell me about those seats? Aaron Ackerson Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Marina/6593/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss <eric_w@geocities.com> Subject: (mobility) His own tour? Date: 26 Apr 1997 09:53:11 -0700 I really hope his Moby-nes goes on his own (smaller club?) tour of the US... I mean its great to see him no matter what the circustances are.. but its not the same when he does the radio-concert circuit.. you know? Plus on his own tour he would be able to play longer and play his more obscure stuff (ie: pre-everything is wrong).. oh well.. just a thought on my mind another friday concert uppdate and still no moby concerts in my area (san francisco bay area)... aarrgghh! eric -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samu Heinonen <samuhei@dlc.fi> Subject: Re: (mobility) His own tour? Date: 26 Apr 1997 20:32:34 +0300 (EDT) At 09.53 26.4.1997 -0700, you wrote: >I really hope his Moby-nes goes on his own (smaller club?) tour of the >US... I mean its great to see him no matter what the circustances are.. >but its not the same when he does the radio-concert circuit.. you know? >Plus on his own tour he would be able to play longer and play his more >obscure stuff (ie: pre-everything is wrong).. > >oh well.. just a thought on my mind >another friday concert uppdate and still no moby concerts in my area >(san francisco bay area)... aarrgghh! > >eric >-- >Eric Weiss >Epicentre Productions >eric_w@geocities.com > > > talking about conserts: i read somewhere that Moby is going to tour on Europe next summer.. is it true? do anyone knows? +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ | Samu | | Heinonen | | e-mail:samuhei@dlc.fi | | http://www.dlc.fi/~samuhei | +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Stegenga <steg@ix.netcom.com> Subject: (mobility) I got my Tickets! Date: 26 Apr 1997 12:25:10 -0500 Holy Cow, I must be lucky...I got my tickets for the huge Q101 (sucks) Jamboree which has our hero as one of the acts. I wasn't first in line, but the "lottery" picked my number forst, so I was the first to purchase tix at 10:00 am in my Ticketmaster outlet...my seats are in the pavilion but not as close as I'd think... Anyway, It'll be good to see Moby and Bjork, and speaking of Bjork, I have a question for our Bjork fans out there. The video for "Big Time Sensuality" has a really cool mix to it...is this available commercially? The CD that is, I could care less about the video. I just want to know what mix it is...and like we have said, she has ALOT of singles. I just need to know which one to get. --- Scott Steg...I Love Carrots "Are there heartstings connected...to the wings you've got slapped on your back?" - Belly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bluegirl` <mlverma@odin.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) I got my Tickets! Date: 26 Apr 1997 12:48:32 -0500 At 12:25 PM 4/26/97 -0500, you wrote: >Holy Cow, > >I must be lucky...I got my tickets for the huge Q101 (sucks) Jamboree which >has our hero as one of the acts. I wasn't first in line, but the "lottery" >picked my number forst, so I was the first to purchase tix at 10:00 am in my >Ticketmaster outlet...my seats are in the pavilion but not as close as I'd >think... im soooooo jealous!!! i only got lawn seats:( even though i was there before 10. its not fair that i was made to wait just because im off at school. oh well. *---------*bluegirl*---------------------------------* *-"You get what everybody gets, you get a lifetime."-* *----------------|Death|-----------------------------* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Deus II <rnowroozi@macalester.edu> Subject: (mobility) introduction Date: 26 Apr 1997 13:09:46 -0600 (CST) Rasteen Nowroozi 18 Early Underground, Everything is Wrong, Everything is Wrong DJ Mix Album Big fan introduced by my ex-girlfriend, who hates Techno, but likes Moby (My current roommate hates Moby, and I cannot affford to buy the other CDs right now) Love Josh Wink, Prodigy, and Future Sound of London ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bluegirl` <mlverma@odin.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) introduction Date: 26 Apr 1997 13:31:48 -0500 welcome Rasteen Nowroozi im pleased to meet you im 19 myself where r u located? *---------*bluegirl*---------------------------------* *-"You get what everybody gets, you get a lifetime."-* *----------------|Death|-----------------------------* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Deus II <rnowroozi@macalester.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) introduction Date: 26 Apr 1997 13:45:11 -0600 (CST) > where r u located? Saint Paul, Minnesota, but I'm from Philadelphia. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RAYMUNDO VILLA JR <ravilla@utep.edu> Subject: (mobility) A simple hello Date: 26 Apr 1997 21:09:18 -0600 (MDT) Hi everyone, I'm new to the list and I guess I should introduce myself. My name is Raymundo Villa Jr. I'm a student and work part time. All of my friends have already graduated from school, but I'm still here. I'm a bit lazy and have never really applied myself. I was having too much fun to go to class. Now everyone I know has a real job and I'm stuck in a dead end job. Anyway, the first time I heard Moby was about a year ago. My friend had a copy of the single "feeling so real". I immediately fell in love with it. I went out and bought a copy of "Everything is Wrong". I love it and it is about the only thing that I listen to these days. In addition to this list I'm also on Panic (Smiths mailing list). I also like Aphex Twins, KMFDM, My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult, Lords of Acid, Consolidated (whatever happened to them?), New Order and many others. ----- I picked a copy of Rolling Stone and it says that Moby is expected to produce the next gun's and roses album. I'm interested in finding out what the new album sounds like. Well I not sure what to expect here, but I hope its fun. Goodnight and Thank You -Morrissey- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "halo" <halo@humboldt1.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) A simple hello Date: 27 Apr 1997 02:18:42 -0700 Welcome to the list Raymundo .. I was kinda struck by the groups you listed as favorites, moby (early underground) and lords of acid (voodoo you) were my intro's to techno in general, and I've loved both groups ever since (moby especially, loa is a crazy group, but moby's the man) heh, maybe I'm done lurking =) peace! -- Scott Bruce <halo@humboldt1.com> ... "with the right tools, any rental car quickly becomes a convertible" ---- Hi everyone, I'm new to the list and I guess I should introduce myself. My name is Raymundo Villa Jr. I'm a student and work part time. All of my friends have already graduated from school, but I'm still here. I'm a bit lazy and have never really applied myself. I was having too much fun to go to class. Now everyone I know has a real job and I'm stuck in a dead end job. Anyway, the first time I heard Moby was about a year ago. My friend had a copy of the single "feeling so real". I immediately fell in love with it. I went out and bought a copy of "Everything is Wrong". I love it and it is about the only thing that I listen to these days. In addition to this list I'm also on Panic (Smiths mailing list). I also like Aphex Twins, KMFDM, My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult, Lords of Acid, Consolidated (whatever happened to them?), New Order and many others. ----- I picked a copy of Rolling Stone and it says that Moby is expected to produce the next gun's and roses album. I'm interested in finding out what the new album sounds like. Well I not sure what to expect here, but I hope its fun. Goodnight and Thank You -Morrissey- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paulmtucker@juno.com (Paul M Tucker) Subject: (mobility) TWIRFMR 12" Date: 27 Apr 1997 05:21:54 EDT Format: 12" Artists: MOBY Title: That's When I Reach For My Revolver moby's mix / psychotic ve-gun mix edit vocal dub /moby's mix 1 edit / rollo & sister bliss vocal mix Description: Elektra 6024 / dj / cust.sticker / '97 I was wondering if someone has this and likes it. I have a few coming in the mail from Elektra. I haven't really enjoyed the new AR stuff, however some of the remixes on the singles have been fun. I applaud Moby for not compromising his humanness as an artist. Please email me personally. Thanks... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Stegenga <steg@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) I've got my tickets! Date: 27 Apr 1997 04:27:22 -0500 At 10:39 PM 4/25/97 PDT, you wrote: >I got tickets for May 25. The operator said they are lawn seats behind >the pavilion. I asked her if I would be able to see the performers and I >think she said probably. Can anyone who has been to the World Music >Theatre tell me about those seats? > Thats a funny description of your seating deal. My thoughts are if you get lawn, you get the lawn. No "seating" really. You just have to stake your claim on the lawn for the day. First come, first served. The Lawn at the New World Music Theatre is absolutely HUGE. The best way to see the performers...well, if you're in the lawn. You may as well enjoy listening. Unless you get a spot right at the front of the lawn. Other than that, why not just bask in the sun and hear your favorite bands. I also hear there will be a "second stage" kind of setup. Maybe Moby will play that stage. Its funny how Queer 101 put artists like James and Moby when they rarely play their stuff on the radio anyway... --- Scott Steg...I Love Carrots "Are there heartstings connected...to the wings you've got slapped on your back?" - Belly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) TWIRFMR 12" Date: 27 Apr 1997 11:40:25 -0400 (EDT) yeah..i got this and i actually find it exceptionally good..i love all the mixes and they are just another sign that Moby will produce a sort of remixed version of AR and stun the hell out of everyone....i hope so..and perhaps he could surprise me with a little concert in NYC soon..i know exactly what's going to happen: he'll come to NYC and play at a tiny little club where noone really knows who he is and i'll find out the next day on the list that he was in the city..then i think i'll inflict pain on myself until the day i see him. elie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MOBYchild@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) I've got my tickets! Date: 27 Apr 1997 12:10:21 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-04-27 05:48:18 EDT, you write: << Its funny how Queer 101 put artists like James and Moby when they rarely play their stuff on the radio anyway... >> dont you remember, "techno" is the next "big thing"...Q101 has to jump right onto the bandwagon... they even played a clip of TWIRFMR on one of the commercials, which makes me wonder if he is still gonna be on stage numero 2. if moby, or anyone else, plays on the second stage, you can walk right up to the stage...if fyou can get by me }:) hmm, back in the old moby chat i asked him if when he was in the chicago area if he wanted to come & eat dinner at my house...i wonder if he remembers. just kidding, i dont want mail on how naive i am. the renegade robot Liam of the cosmos and beyond ~L~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss <eric_w@geocities.com> Subject: (mobility) Cooking for Moby _WAS_I've got my tickets! Date: 27 Apr 1997 10:01:44 -0700 hmmm having moby over for dinner would be a blast.. this just brings a kinda random stupid question to mind.. does anyone know mobys favorites? favorite color? favorite food? favorite sport? anyway have any of mobys favorites squirreled away in their brain? just asking eric -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paulmtucker@juno.com (Paul M Tucker) Subject: (mobility) New Moby Stuff Date: 27 Apr 1997 15:05:36 EDT I am expecting some new Moby items off of the Animal Rights cd. One that I got in already is the following: 12MUTE200 COME ON BABY Side A Crystal Method Mix Side B Eskimos & Egypt 12" Mix Eskimos & Egypt 7" Mix I will also send out with the list the updated new stuff I have of Lords Of Acid and The Shamen. I you haven't bought anything from me before, and are interested, please reply to me, not the list, about receiving it. I will also have a list that includes alot of the following: Information Society, Cause & Effect, Anything Box, T42, Red Flag, and a few other synthpop giants. Also, if you are looking for the extra rare Moby item, please send me your list and the exact details of what you are looking for. I have been very helpful in aiding people add to their collections. These places usually require a credit card and ship things U.P.S. When I am able to find the item, I will email you the phone number and the person you will want to talk to. I hope I have been helpful. Thanks again. -Paul M. Tucker ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bluegirl` <mlverma@odin.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: (mobility) Chicago tickets question Date: 27 Apr 1997 17:02:48 -0500 i have 3 tickets.... but i found out that one other friend may want to go too... i would just like to say that if anyone has an extra lawn seat, please contact me sometime during this next month. thank you *---------|bluegirl|-----------------------------------------------* *-"And the world is always shrinking, and my mind is dissapearing,-* *--in the holy adulation of your all-inclusive open arms, and -----* *--feeling penitential, I'm cutting off my finger, and I'm faxing -* *--you the image, via omnipresent electicity."---------------------* *----------------|M.Gira|------------------------------------------* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bluegirl` <mlverma@odin.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: (mobility) chicago tickets Date: 27 Apr 1997 17:04:16 -0500 i have 3 tickets.... but i found out that one other friend may want to go too... i would just like to say that if anyone has an extra lawn seat, please contact me sometime during this next month. thank you *---------|bluegirl|-----------------------------------------------* *-"And the world is always shrinking, and my mind is dissapearing,-* *--in the holy adulation of your all-inclusive open arms, and -----* *--feeling penitential, I'm cutting off my finger, and I'm faxing -* *--you the image, via omnipresent electicity."---------------------* *----------------|M.Gira|------------------------------------------* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "halo" <halo@humboldt1.com> Subject: (mobility) moby paraphenelia Date: 27 Apr 1997 20:32:19 -0700 Does anyone know where I can lay my hands on some nifty moby paraphenalia? ie: t-shirts, posters, etc..? thanks - peace out! -- Scott Bruce <halo@humboldt1.com> ... "with the right tools, any rental car quickly becomes a convertible" -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 4.5 mQCNAjNhfCEAAAEEANEBrEk0FFRLPc/p17O+bM16ZT7v+3+8i3SVYr/6ttASgR6L EaUNso0mldZKbxd2rnHsEV7WWRW1C796DSvQswM6pnUfJXVr3JlkWVuGKNIiTN7p rRcedGcjilkpAQhyg0fULKxE6E9+VzSSlojn3bLsgmrOMBPl9nTN7NKm1NkBAAUR tCpTY290dCBNYWNLZW56aWUgQnJ1Y2UgPGhhbG9AaHVtYm9sZHQxLmNvbT4= =KP8g -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kcr4829@is.nyu.edu (Ken Rowe) Subject: Re: (mobility) A simple hello Date: 28 Apr 1997 02:46:54 -0400 >Welcome to the list Raymundo .. I was kinda struck by the groups you listed >as favorites, moby (early underground) and lords of acid (voodoo you) were >my intro's to techno in general, and I've loved both groups ever since >(moby especially, loa is a crazy group, but moby's the man) > >Lords of Acid, Thrill Kill Cult, and Moby are three of my favorite bands Did you see Thriil Kill Cult nd LOA play together at the sextasy ball two years ago? Ken Ken Rowe http://pages.nyu.edu/~kcr4829 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "-jAdenX-" <BARONEC@email.rosary.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) I've got my tickets! Date: 28 Apr 1997 01:56:51 CST Hello list. I also have my tickets for junkoooree. I got 5 in the middle, 26 rows away form the stage in the pavillion. Not bad. Hey, bluegirl, I might have an extra lawn ticket. I'll let you know. We should all meet at the show. The Orb/Chem.Bros show last night was AWESOME!!!!! Orb played for about 1 hr. [So that means they played 5 songs :)] In between the sets for the two they had a local DJ spin for about 30- 45 min. He was very good. Chem Bros. played for about 90 min. Great lighting, videos and Quadrophonic sound. I don't know if anyone is familiar with the Aragon, but when they put a wall of speakers in the back of the room the bass will make your shirt move like a breeze. Very Nice. The atmosphere was alright. A lot of people dancing, but not enough room to dance. I was bumping people allnight. Oh well, I enjoyed it and it was definetly worth 25 dollars. Next concert=Prodigy. -Carmen ********************************************************* Baronec@email.rosary.edu JadenX@aol.com CHECK OUT MY WAVERACE PAGE!!!!!! TIMES AND SCORES NOW UP! http://members.aol.com/JadenX/waverace.html ********************************************************** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "toocoolbeans" <ojje@bridge.net> Subject: (mobility) Fw: News! Date: 28 Apr 1997 07:34:50 -0400 i recieved this from the heather nova list and thought i should pass it on to guys and gals. if by any chance this was already posted here, i apoligize in advance. laters, tom ---------- > From: Eric <narthex@geocities.com> > To: The Heather Nova Mailinglist <list@heathernova.org> > Subject: News! > Date: Sunday, April 27, 1997 3:37 PM > > Hello people, > > I was justing scoping out the Daily 'alternative' music news at > www.chartnet.com/chart/damn/ and found this exciting piece of > information.... Heather Nova's going to be collaborating with Moby on the > track 'Straight to Hell' for a Clash tribute CD. Woohoo! > > I can't imagine what it will sound like... for those of you who don't know > who Moby is... I don't really either... but he generally writes techno > (electronic if you like) music... so my guess is she'll be doing spacey > vocals over a Moby version of 'Straight To Hell'... > > Moby did release a 'rock' album last year I think, but it wasn't recieved > very well... a lot of people said he should stick to the electronic stuff. > > I also recall reading somewhere, possibly an oz rolling stone, that Moby > favourite album of last year, or maybe it was the year before, was in fact > 'Oyster' so he may have been keen to do something with Heather for some > time... but who knows? > > For the record, here's the thing from DAMN... > > NEW CLASH TRIBUTE IN THE WORKS The September intended project is > shaping up to be a likeable tribute, including > a number of strong bands who loved > them and one particular group who seem to copy > them outright (uh...that's Rancid, if > you didn't know already). Here's the current > list of planned tracks, according to > Addicted To Noise: > > 311 - White Man in Hammersmith Palais > Bush - Janie Jones > Frosted - Garageland > Goldfinger - Spanish Bombs > The Mighty Mighty Bosstones - Rudie Can't Fail > Moby with Heather Nova - Straight to Hell > Rancid - Cheat > > whoa! apart from the bush *spew* track it's looking pretty cool... and it > is excellent to see New Zealand's own Garageland contributing... but I > digress... :o) > > anyway... > > later, > > > erik > " the only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everyone goes "Awww!" " -- J.Kerouac " the ice is thin- come on dive in underneath my lucid skin - the cold is lost, forgotten" --S.Mclachlan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: (mobility) Fw: News! Date: 28 Apr 1997 08:45:46 -0500 MO>laters, tom MO>>I can't imagine what it will sound like... for those of you who don't MO>>know who Moby is... I don't really either... but he generally writes techno MO>>(electronic if you like) music... so my guess is she'll be doing MO>>spacey vocals over a Moby version of 'Straight To Hell'... Excuse the ignorance...but who's Heather Nova..and what does she sound like...Any way to compare/contrast to the others that have sung for Moby? Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bluegirl` <mlverma@odin.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) I've got my tickets! Date: 28 Apr 1997 10:09:59 -0500 >Hey, bluegirl, >I might have an extra lawn ticket. I'll let you know. We should all >meet at the show. thanks a lot!!!! really! ill the girl who also wants to come is out of state right now.... but ill let you know. i cant say how much she'll pay for the ticket. she isnt a huge moby fan or anything thanx bunches >I don't know if >anyone is familiar with the Aragon, but when they put a wall of >speakers in the back of the room the bass will make your shirt move >like a breeze. Very Nice. im familiar with the aragon a bit... ive been there once a few yrs ago... pretty place, but bad sound i think. when i went you could only understand lyrics & stuff up front up in front... but it has a pretty ceiling *---------|bluegirl|-----------------------------------------------* *-"And the world is always shrinking, and my mind is dissapearing,-* *--in the holy adulation of your all-inclusive open arms, and -----* *--feeling penitential, I'm cutting off my finger, and I'm faxing -* *--you the image, via omnipresent electicity."---------------------* *----------------|M.Gira|------------------------------------------* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" <hypcadet@spectranet.ca> Subject: Re: (mobility) A simple hello Date: 28 Apr 1997 13:06:55 -0700 > Did you see Thriil Kill Cult nd LOA play together at the sextasy ball two > years ago? <budding in> I saw that show in Toronto-and it's still one of the best concerts I've ever been to. I didn't really like LOA before the show-but I absolutely fell in love after seeing the incredible show they put on... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dreamboy <ryu97@twd.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) A simple hello Date: 28 Apr 1997 13:55:55 -0400 (EDT) ><budding in> >I saw that show in Toronto-and it's still one of the best concerts I've >ever been to. I didn't really like LOA before the show-but I absolutely >fell in love after seeing the incredible show they put on... <budding in even more> an interesting bit of info: the lords of acid that toured the u.s. are not the lords of acid that do the music for the album. the band that plays concerts are just players for the real musicians. i went to the sextacy ball tour too, and it was one of my favorite concerts. even though they didn't write any of the songs, they sure did put on a great show. i would like to see moby do some songs with Jade 4 U of the lords of acid clan. she has an amazing voice and if combined with moby's anthematic techno possibilities..........well, it could be one hell of a song. love, ryu O(+> <+)O O(+> <+)O O(+> <+(O O(+> <+)O O(+> <+)O O(+> "What can i say that Shakespeare hasn't said before? Like an embryo baby, Don't abort this dire need for you. All my emotions ejaculated on the floor." O(+> <+)O O(+> <+)O O(+> <+(O O(+> <+)O O(+> <+)O O(+> Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samu Heinonen <samuhei@dlc.fi> Subject: (mobility) moby's tour Date: 28 Apr 1997 21:50:58 +0300 (EDT) I read somewhere that Moby is going to tour on Europe this summer. is anyone know is it true? or where he is going to tour, if he is not coming to europe? .. +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ | Samu | | Heinonen | | e-mail:samuhei@dlc.fi | | http://www.dlc.fi/~samuhei | +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samu Heinonen <samuhei@dlc.fi> Subject: (mobility) Stupid questions.. Date: 28 Apr 1997 21:53:39 +0300 (EDT) 1 Who would be perfect girlfriend to Moby? 2 What animal Moby would be? this are stupid questions, but i started to think those stupid questions .. and i would like to know what do you guys think about these.. +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ | Samu | | Heinonen | | e-mail:samuhei@dlc.fi | | http://www.dlc.fi/~samuhei | +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "halo" <halo@humboldt1.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) A simple hello Date: 28 Apr 1997 12:07:25 -0700 while we're on the moby & another artist topic =) I've always hoped he'd do a collaboration with the Shamen .. they're both excellent at what they do, and I think the end result would be pretty awesome peace! -- Scott Bruce <halo@humboldt1.com> ... your official neighborhood net.sheep, baaaa -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 4.5 mQCNAjNhfCEAAAEEANEBrEk0FFRLPc/p17O+bM16ZT7v+3+8i3SVYr/6ttASgR6L EaUNso0mldZKbxd2rnHsEV7WWRW1C796DSvQswM6pnUfJXVr3JlkWVuGKNIiTN7p rRcedGcjilkpAQhyg0fULKxE6E9+VzSSlojn3bLsgmrOMBPl9nTN7NKm1NkBAAUR tCpTY290dCBNYWNLZW56aWUgQnJ1Y2UgPGhhbG9AaHVtYm9sZHQxLmNvbT4= =KP8g -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- ---- >><budding in> >>I saw that show in Toronto-and it's still one of the best concerts I've >>ever been to. I didn't really like LOA before the show-but I absolutely >>fell in love after seeing the incredible show they put on... > ><budding in even more> >an interesting bit of info: >the lords of acid that toured the u.s. are not the lords of acid that >do the music for the album. the band that plays concerts are just >players for the real musicians. i went to the sextacy ball tour too, >and it was one of my favorite concerts. even though they didn't >write any of the songs, they sure did put on a great show. >i would like to see moby do some songs with Jade 4 U of the >lords of acid clan. she has an amazing voice and if combined with >moby's anthematic techno possibilities..........well, it could be one hell >of a song. > >love, >ryu > >O(+> <+)O O(+> <+)O O(+> <+(O O(+> <+)O O(+> <+)O O(+> >"What can i say that Shakespeare hasn't said before? > Like an embryo baby, > Don't abort this dire need for you. > All my emotions ejaculated on the floor." >O(+> <+)O O(+> <+)O O(+> <+(O O(+> <+)O O(+> <+)O O(+> >Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 > IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: (mobility) Stupid questions.. Date: 28 Apr 1997 14:06:58 -0500 MO>1 Who would be perfect girlfriend to Moby? MO>2 What animal Moby would be? MO>this are stupid questions, but i started to think those stupid questions .. MO>and i would like to know what do you guys think about these.. Samu and any other interested ppl..check the archives for the answers...many of us answered these ?'s a while back. Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm PS <non Moby content> Since ppl are talking about concerts...Tomorrow I see the mighty Reverend..then the Bosstones on the 5th...Woo hoo! :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Deus II <rnowroozi@macalester.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) A simple hello Date: 28 Apr 1997 17:03:07 -0600 (CST) > i would like to see moby do some songs with Jade 4 U of the > lords of acid clan. she has an amazing voice and if combined with > moby's anthematic techno possibilities..........well, it could be one hell > of a song. I was just listening to Voodoo U, and I think it would definitely be interesting. Especially if Moby does the liner notes and Jade 4 U did lyrics from LOA. Vegan Christian environmentalist propaganda on the liner notes, and very blatent sexuality and drug use in the songs. Interesting... I know that I would buy it, though. Rasteen ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) moby's tour Date: 28 Apr 1997 18:47:13 -0400 (EDT) no way..he better do some shows in the u.s...i'll have a heartattack!!!!!! elie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kcr4829@is.nyu.edu (Ken Rowe) Subject: Re: (mobility) A simple hello Date: 29 Apr 1997 00:35:11 -0400 >> Did you see Thriil Kill Cult nd LOA play together at the sextasy ball two >> years ago? > ><budding in> >I saw that show in Toronto-and it's still one of the best concerts I've >ever been to. I didn't really like LOA before the show-but I absolutely >fell in love after seeing the incredible show they put on... > >I totally agree-I wonder if they're going to do it again it would awesome. I actually hung out with LOA anf TKC after the show. We went to vault. It was a crazy night Ken > > Ken Rowe http://pages.nyu.edu/~kcr4829 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kcr4829@is.nyu.edu (Ken Rowe) Subject: Re: (mobility) A simple hello Date: 29 Apr 1997 00:38:57 -0400 >><budding in> >>I saw that show in Toronto-and it's still one of the best concerts I've >>ever been to. I didn't really like LOA before the show-but I absolutely >>fell in love after seeing the incredible show they put on... > ><budding in even more> >an interesting bit of info: >the lords of acid that toured the u.s. are not the lords of acid that >do the music for the album. the band that plays concerts are just >players for the real musicians. i went to the sextacy ball tour too, >and it was one of my favorite concerts. even though they didn't >write any of the songs, they sure did put on a great show. >i would like to see moby do some songs with Jade 4 U of the >lords of acid clan. she has an amazing voice and if combined with >moby's anthematic techno possibilities..........well, it could be one hell >of a song. I'm not sure about the rest of the band but Praga Khan and Jade 4 U were at the show and their credited for producing and arranging Voodoo U. Ken > >love, >ryu > >O(+> <+)O O(+> <+)O O(+> <+(O O(+> <+)O O(+> <+)O O(+> >"What can i say that Shakespeare hasn't said before? > Like an embryo baby, > Don't abort this dire need for you. > All my emotions ejaculated on the floor." >O(+> <+)O O(+> <+)O O(+> <+(O O(+> <+)O O(+> <+)O O(+> >Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 > IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ > > > > Ken Rowe http://pages.nyu.edu/~kcr4829 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RAYMUNDO VILLA JR <ravilla@utep.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) A simple hello Date: 29 Apr 1997 02:49:45 -0600 (MDT) On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, Ken Rowe wrote: > >> Did you see Thriil Kill Cult nd LOA play together at the sextasy ball two > >> years ago? > > > ><budding in> > >I saw that show in Toronto-and it's still one of the best concerts I've > >ever been to. I didn't really like LOA before the show-but I absolutely > >fell in love after seeing the incredible show they put on... Well, if everybody is through budding in I think I'll respond now. Yes and it was one of the best concerts that I've ever seen. > I actually hung out with LOA anf TKC after the show. We went to vault. It > was a crazy night Ken, tells us more about this crazy night? -Ray- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paulmtucker@juno.com (Paul M Tucker) Subject: (mobility) Moby Slipmats Date: 29 Apr 1997 07:05:17 EDT I just got in 3 slipmats that have Moby on them... When I refer to logo, it is how the letters M O B Y are arranged. Slipmats are black with white lettering. Moby #1 Features 1st Moby logo (Like that on EIW items) plastic/rubber Moby #2 Features 2nd Moby logo (Like that on AR items) plastic/rubber Moby #3 Features hand drawn character from Bring Back My Happiness cd single with classic saying "Animals are not ..... Thanks to Jesus Christ...." silkscreen on felt. This will be a email auction. Bidding will end on the June 1. No group bids. Bids must be on individual slipmats. Payment must be received no later than 1 1/2 weeks after bid closes. If payment isn't received it will go to the next bidder in line. Any questions, please contact me with Moby Slipmats in the subject area. Bidding should have Moby Slipmat Bid in subject area. This will help make my life much simpler. I have alot of email and if the subject doesn't catch my eye, then into the trash it goes. Thank you. Paul M. Tucker ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman <keen@webaccess.net> Subject: (mobility) Moby Mentioned on Paul Harvey Show Date: 29 Apr 1997 06:39:09 -0600 This morning, I caught the end of an item on the Paul Harvey show, about Moby changing the lyrics to _That's When I Reach For My Revolver_. Wow, I don't know how he got on Paul Harvey... Daniel Cerman http://www.moby.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keri schaeffer <kschaff@foothill.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby Mentioned on Paul Harvey Show Date: 29 Apr 1997 05:52:44 -0700 Daniel Cerman wrote: This morning, I caught the end of an item on the Paul Harvey show, about Moby changing the lyrics to _That's When I Reach For My Revolver_. Wow, I don't know how he got on Paul Harvey... Daniel Cerman http://www.moby.org/ that's pretty scary. i heard paul harvey once in germany and he seemed rather conservative no? just got "ambient" as i'm a newer mobyist and i've noticed simularities between this music and what you would perceive as "new age" kind of sleepy-bye music. it's nice for those quiet times.just waiting for an order to come from aus.i can't remember which one. clueless? give me a hint? off the subject...is it Orbital ? or the Orb that's techno? mind is going 'cuse me. i talked with someone at my record store and it appears alot of people have been awakening to Moby through AR that wouldn't have touched him before.this is good. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" <hypcadet@spectranet.ca> Subject: (mobility) Lyrics Date: 29 Apr 1997 14:26:56 -0700 Ok I finished compiling all the lyrics for Moby tracks that *I* have. I know that there's probably hundreds of errors-but it's a start ;) They're on the Ultimate Moby Page now-let me know of any corrections/additions you've got.... http://www.moby.org/lyrics/moblyric.txt Some of his lyrics (especially What Love & In My Life) are so *damn* hard to understand ;) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" <hypcadet@spectranet.ca> Subject: Re: (mobility) A simple hello Date: 29 Apr 1997 14:19:06 -0700 > the lords of acid that toured the u.s. are not the lords of acid that > do the music for the album. the band that plays concerts are just > players for the real musicians. i went to the sextacy ball tour too, I've seen pictures of Jade 4 U & Pragha Khan (sp?) and they were the same people that played (along with 4 others) on stage-are you sure about this? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss <eric_w@geocities.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby Slipmats Date: 29 Apr 1997 12:33:43 -0700 i could have sworn that the slipmats are available through mutebank.. am i wrong? -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "menacing" <5ROCHER@stu.jmls.edu> Subject: (mobility) Moby in Chicago Date: 29 Apr 1997 14:45:32 CST Plus, at the World Music Theatre, as far as I can remember, above the lawn area are projection screens where you can view the performer(s) up close. RRR || "save yourself from this" 5rocher@stu.jmls.edu || P| 242.cure.depeche_MODE.erasure.megadeth.moby.|\|||/|.nitzer_ebb.U2. || D| alice_in_chains.marilyn_manson.ministry.new_order.pet_shop_boys. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: damian@xmission.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby Slipmats Date: 29 Apr 1997 14:34:42 -0600 Paul M Tucker wrote: > > I just got in 3 slipmats that have Moby on them... > > When I refer to logo, it is how the letters M O B Y are arranged. > Slipmats are black with white lettering. > > Moby #1 Features 1st Moby logo (Like that on EIW items) plastic/rubber > Moby #2 Features 2nd Moby logo (Like that on AR items) plastic/rubber > Moby #3 Features hand drawn character from Bring Back My Happiness cd > single with classic saying "Animals are not ..... Thanks > to Jesus Christ...." silkscreen on felt. Okay, I might catch some flack for this but... what are slipmats? Are they the one foot by one foot cardboard promotional items that are sent out when a new single or album is released, mainly seen in record stores??? I call them flats. Then again, they couldn't be because plastic, rubber, and felt have been mentioned. So does anyone have an example that they could provide me? thanks. -- damian@xmission.com (hoping I'm not totally in the dark) <G> http://www.xmission.com/~damian/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dreamboy <ryu97@twd.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby Slipmats Date: 29 Apr 1997 16:55:53 -0400 (EDT) >Okay, I might catch some flack for this but... what are slipmats? Are >they the one foot by one foot cardboard promotional items that are sent >out when a new single or album is released, mainly seen in record >stores??? I call them flats. Then again, they couldn't be because >plastic, rubber, and felt have been mentioned. So does anyone have an >example that they could provide me? thanks. a slipmat is a really cool dj who used to make nice breakbeat laden happy hardcore, but now makes cheesey no brain dutch stomp shit. oh, wait, that's "DJ slipmat"........ my fault. a slipmat is a 12" piece of felt/rubber that is placed underneath a record on a turntable to give the dj greater control over the vinyl. they help in scratching. love, ryu O(+> <+)O O(+> <+)O O(+> <+(O O(+> <+)O O(+> <+)O O(+> "What can i say that Shakespeare hasn't said before? Like an embryo baby, Don't abort this dire need for you. All my emotions ejaculated on the floor." O(+> <+)O O(+> <+)O O(+> <+(O O(+> <+)O O(+> <+)O O(+> Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dreamboy <ryu97@twd.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) A simple hello Date: 29 Apr 1997 17:10:32 -0400 (EDT) At 02:19 PM 4/29/97 -0700, you wrote: >> the lords of acid that toured the u.s. are not the lords of acid that >> do the music for the album. the band that plays concerts are just >> players for the real musicians. i went to the sextacy ball tour too, > >I've seen pictures of Jade 4 U & Pragha Khan (sp?) and they were the same >people that played (along with 4 others) on stage-are you sure about this? someone else agreed with you. so you are "lucky bastard nuber 2". i saw LoA twice and praga and jade were absent both times. i also read an interview with lady galore during the sextacy ball tour, and she said that praga and jade and oliver adams usually didn't tour with them and that the band that toured didn't work in the studio. maybe they just made a few guest appearances or maybe i just got screwed. love, ryu O(+> <+)O O(+> <+)O O(+> <+(O O(+> <+)O O(+> <+)O O(+> "What can i say that Shakespeare hasn't said before? Like an embryo baby, Don't abort this dire need for you. All my emotions ejaculated on the floor." O(+> <+)O O(+> <+)O O(+> <+(O O(+> <+)O O(+> <+)O O(+> Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss <eric_w@geocities.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby Slipmats Date: 29 Apr 1997 14:17:52 -0700 slipmats go between the turntable and the record.. -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman <keen@webaccess.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby Mentioned on Paul Harvey Show Date: 29 Apr 1997 17:57:17 -0600 keri schaeffer wrote: > that's pretty scary. i heard paul harvey once in germany and he seemed > rather conservative no? Why scary? Yes, Paul Harvey is conservative, but only when compared with the countless militantly liberal members of the press & entertain- ment industry. He sounds like a nice, normal, reasonable guy to me. > off the subject...is it Orbital ? or the Orb that's techno? mind is > going 'cuse me. They both make electronic music, and IMHO both are excellent. Orbital's music is structured around cool beats, and I guess is considered "IDM". The Orb delivers rich harmonic ambience interwoven with dub. Neither of my descriptions do justice to the music that these people make, but they are excellent and definately worth checking out. Their unique styles are nice complements to Moby's music. > i talked with someone at my record store and it appears alot of people > have been awakening to Moby through AR that wouldn't have touched him > before.this is good. Bleh. Daniel Cerman http://www.moby.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby Slipmats Date: 29 Apr 1997 22:37:47 -0400 (EDT) what are slipmats? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kcr4829@is.nyu.edu (Ken Rowe) Subject: Re: (mobility) A simple hello Date: 30 Apr 1997 02:04:47 -0400 >On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, Ken Rowe wrote: > >> >> Did you see Thriil Kill Cult nd LOA play together at the sextasy ball two >> > >Ken, tells us more about this crazy night? > I would if I could remmeber much, but I can't. Anybody that's ever been to vault though knows what it's like and can get a pretty good picture of what went on. The palce is kind of a gothic S&M club and you know what LOA is about by their songs so use your imagination. Ken > > > > Ken Rowe http://pages.nyu.edu/~kcr4829 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kcr4829@is.nyu.edu (Ken Rowe) Subject: Re: (mobility) A simple hello Date: 30 Apr 1997 02:10:02 -0400 >> the lords of acid that toured the u.s. are not the lords of acid that >> do the music for the album. the band that plays concerts are just >> players for the real musicians. i went to the sextacy ball tour too, > >I've seen pictures of Jade 4 U & Pragha Khan (sp?) and they were the same >people that played (along with 4 others) on stage-are you sure about this? Yup, I got to meet them after the show. THe show was a really big one though. I was really surprised that they sold it out. Roseland is pretty big I didn't know that many people like them. I think the venue holds 8 to 10 thousand > > > > Ken Rowe http://pages.nyu.edu/~kcr4829 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kcr4829@is.nyu.edu (Ken Rowe) Subject: Re: (mobility) A simple hello Date: 30 Apr 1997 02:16:35 -0400 > > >someone else agreed with you. so you are "lucky bastard nuber 2". >i saw LoA twice and praga and jade were absent both times. i also read an >interview with lady galore during the sextacy ball tour, and she said that >praga and jade and oliver adams usually didn't tour with them and that the >band that toured didn't work in the studio. maybe they just made a few >guest appearances or maybe i just got screwed. > >Are you sure they weren't there. Ive heard of bands doing cover songs, but I never heard of song writers have cover bands. The show was a big one though. And their was a lot of talk about it in NY. I know they did certain at the new york show that they couldn't do at other shows because of legal reasons. ex. wipping a stripper in bondage gear on a cross during intermission and kicking a gimp in a cage. Ken Ken Rowe http://pages.nyu.edu/~kcr4829 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samu Heinonen <samuhei@dlc.fi> Subject: (mobility) Bootlegs Date: 30 Apr 1997 15:18:04 +0300 (EDT) i got copy of live at minneapolis bootleg yesterday.. i need you is great, it's shame that Moby didn't release it in commercial.. =( it's one of the greatest Moby's techno tracks what i heard.. anyways. +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ | Samu | | Heinonen | | e-mail:samuhei@dlc.fi | | http://www.dlc.fi/~samuhei | +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: matthew james smith <mjsmith@students.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) A simple hello Date: 30 Apr 1997 10:33:27 -0500 (CDT) Speaking of the LoA and TKK....does anyone know of the group Sheep on Drugs? I heard them for the first time yesterday, and their style is comparable to that of LoA and TKK....mjs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Bootlegs Date: 30 Apr 1997 15:17:52 -0400 (EDT) where did u get this copy of the live at minneapolis bootleg? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kajagugu@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) moby's tour Date: 30 Apr 1997 18:47:08 -0400 (EDT) I kinda know Moby from a friend and when I asked him about touring he said he is not touring anywhere until November ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "halo" <halo@humboldt1.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Bootlegs Date: 30 Apr 1997 19:29:04 -0700 ---- Cc: Chilidiba9@aol.com >where did u get this copy of the live at minneapolis bootleg? -- and better yet .. when will you put it up as an mp3? =) peace! -- Scott Bruce <halo@humboldt1.com> ... official net.blacksheep - baaaaa! -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 4.5 mQCNAjNhfCEAAAEEANEBrEk0FFRLPc/p17O+bM16ZT7v+3+8i3SVYr/6ttASgR6L EaUNso0mldZKbxd2rnHsEV7WWRW1C796DSvQswM6pnUfJXVr3JlkWVuGKNIiTN7p rRcedGcjilkpAQhyg0fULKxE6E9+VzSSlojn3bLsgmrOMBPl9nTN7NKm1NkBAAUR tCpTY290dCBNYWNLZW56aWUgQnJ1Y2UgPGhhbG9AaHVtYm9sZHQxLmNvbT4= =KP8g -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----