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From: Brad Caviness <bigwigenterprises@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) the 're-play' mp3s Date: 01 May 2001 07:01:05 -0700 (PDT) --- Snoryder78@aol.com wrote: > any idea where to find that tone matrix remix of > My weakness Your strength, its absolutely beautiful. > It's on the ftp site... both in it's regualar version... and the one I mixed into my dj set, which I pitched up quite a bit. ===== Bradley S. Caviness, Bigwig Bigwig Enterprises http://www.bigwigenterprises.com "We're all writing everyday with our lives, whether or not we ever pick up a pen." û Linford Detweiler, Over the Rhine __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric <stale8975@excite.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) the 're-play' mp3s Date: 01 May 2001 07:11:59 -0700 (PDT) That is so funny! That was the first song I downloaded off of the FTP. Hahaha, and it WAS great! Eric The Red > any idea where to find it? > I need to work out to. :p I dig that tone matrix remix of My weakness Your > strength, its absolutely beautiful. "It's not easy being green" _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Caviness <bigwigenterprises@yahoo.com> Subject: (mobility) my theory on DJ'ing or Whack Ass Date: 01 May 2001 07:16:27 -0700 (PDT) --- dj pagan <djpagan@yahoo.com> wrote: > the flow is necessary, but i > prefer the breaks where the music cuts out and > comes back in. if there is anything i hate, it's > progressive euroshit buildups. aaaarrrrrgh! > every song is so formulaic, it's disgusting. how > many times can you hear the 2 minute snare roll > before it gets old? i mean, really! > That's why I like to mix in a variety of styles and moods to get a crowd moving.... I had to pull the disc to remind myself of the playlist, but one of favorite sets played something like this: Carl Cox "Dr. Funk" Moby "Bodyrock" (Olav Basoski Mix) Beastie Boys "Body Movin'" (Fat Boy Slim Mix) Public Enemy "Fight The Power" Groove Armada "I See You Baby" LaRisa "Jay or Jane" (Rave Mix) Prodigy "Smack My Bitch Up" Crystal Method "Busy Child" Amber "Sexual (Li Da Di)" (Thuderpuss 2000 Mix) Chemical Bros. "Hey Boy, Hey Girl" (Extended Mix) Underworld "Cowgirl" > i've been throwing down french/funky house > lately, and i love it. it's catchy, it sounds > good, and, most importantly, it's fun, not > pretentious like a lot of djs i know. > I agree. Pretense kills a dj faster than just plain sucking. Call it the rockstar factor... once you get a big head, all talents falls out your ass. Any kind of music performance is best done for its own sake. > > But the dynamic should build from song to song > one is good. many are not. > point taken.... I always think in terms of one hour sets, not an entire night. ===== Bradley S. Caviness, Bigwig Bigwig Enterprises http://www.bigwigenterprises.com "We're all writing everyday with our lives, whether or not we ever pick up a pen." û Linford Detweiler, Over the Rhine __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mike e." <donkeymike@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) it's not s scam Date: 01 May 2001 09:54:38 -0700 (PDT) http://wwhttp://www.freehomepages.com/w.freehomepages.com/http://www.freehomepages.com/http://www.freehomepages.com/http://www.freehomepages.com/... ....WTF?!?!?!? that's all I get --- maMLUka <natali_z@netvision.net.il> wrote: > Just click this link and download > you don't needto go anywhere! > http://www.oddworldz.com/mobytm/moby/moby.zip > > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ===== "For NASA, space is still a high priority." -Vice President Dan Quayle, 9-5-90 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Snoryder78@aol.com Subject: (mobility) keyboards Date: 01 May 2001 13:02:30 EDT --part1_e0.13f50aee.28204626_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit this is not directly related to moby, but . . . I'm looking into buying a keyboard and I'm wondering where a good place to start is. I've been fooling around with rebirth but It's still pretty new to me, anybody have any suggestions on what to look for? Something good to learn on that will be usefull in the future as well. thanks peace ian --part1_e0.13f50aee.28204626_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>this is not directly related to moby, but . . . I'm looking into buying a <BR>keyboard and I'm wondering where a good place to start is. I've been fooling <BR>around with rebirth but It's still pretty new to me, anybody have any <BR>suggestions on what to look for? Something good to learn on that will be <BR>usefull in the future as well. <BR> <BR>thanks <BR>peace <BR>ian</FONT></HTML> --part1_e0.13f50aee.28204626_boundary-- ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christine <cl007i@mail.rochester.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) keyboards Date: 01 May 2001 14:53:04 -0400 http://www.pricewatch.com is the best way to compare prices for keyboards. I found one for really cheap. If you have any more questions feel free to ask me. I had to replace mine a year ago and did research... :) Christine ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Taylor" <nobuttonstopush@hotmail.com> Subject: (mobility) Moby says 100 new songs written Date: 02 May 2001 13:52:26 Moby Has More Than 100 Songs Written For New Album But follow-up to Play likely won't hit stores until next year. With his massive Area: One summer tour in the works, one might think new material is the last thing on Moby's to-do list. Then again, it has been nearly two years since he released his now-ubiquitous Play. "I'm home working on my album right now. Every day, seven days a week, I'm at home working on it," Moby said. He has penned more than 100 songs already and is in the process of narrowing down the list to a more manageable, album-sized package, Moby's manager, Barry Taylor, said. Don't get too excited, Taylor warned ù the material won't see the light of day for quite some time. "It's too early to say for sure, but I'm guessing it'll be out either the second or third quarter of next year," he said. Don't expect to hear any remix work from Mr. Richard Melville Hall anytime soon either. "I'm so easily distracted, I've put a self-imposed moratorium on side projects," said Moby, who has reportedly turned down remix requests from New Order and Pulp. "[For the time being], I'm not allowed to do other things. I'm just focusing on making my own record." Moby revealed no clues about the new disc's sound, but he did say he's been listening to a lot of '60s soul and gospel lately. Boasting one of the summer's more eclectic lineups ù featuring acts from Outkast to Incubus and Nelly Furtado ù Moby's Area: One tour kicks off July 11 in Atlanta. The festival is his way of paying homage to the spirit of Lollapalooza, Moby said. "Given the eclectic nature of the artists on the bill, I think it's gonna be wonderful." _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tyler Holt" <intotheblue_@hotmail.com> Subject: (mobility) FTP setup? Date: 02 May 2001 19:24:21 -0600 <html><DIV>Didn't somebody upload the CuteFTP setup to one of their sites?</DIV> <DIV>I looked around but couldn't find it. Please help, thanks.</DIV><br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p></html> ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJ Paul Simpson <techno_gpig@yahoo.com> Subject: (mobility) mobility members ftp picture thingy Date: 03 May 2001 05:31:15 -0700 (PDT) yo i got a nice little picture of myself (and a remix i did of it) that i can add to the mobility members pictures part of the ftp site so you can all see what i look like... and what i look like on drugs! (that is... if i did drugs ;) so, what do i do? thanks! rock! dj paul np: lots of nice asian dance music on wpkn ===== "And then Michael suddenly appeared out of nowhere, looking crescent fresh--isn't that a funny expression? I learned it from Michael--in the tux his mom made him get for his cousin Steve's bar mitzvah." Some book called "The Princess Diaries" that my little sister check out of the library, and proof that Sifl & Olly have become part of mainstream pop culture... or something ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DJ PAUL, host of Chester's Blanket Fort, 89.5 FM/wpkn.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bart van Eijck" <j.vaneyck@chello.nl> Subject: (mobility) x files Date: 03 May 2001 23:07:47 +0200 I saw an X Files episode with The Sky Is Broken today. (no, it was not My weakness) The string section of the song came in each time Dana felt really emotional. I think Moby's music sounded a bit out of place with the original background music by Mark Snow... Bart ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matt Olson" <matt@hollowgen.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) x files Date: 03 May 2001 14:06:58 -0700 I remember this. There were actually several episodes from the last season= in which they used My Weakness and The Sky is Broken. My Weakness was= used in an episode where Agent Mulder was investigating abductions of= children, and I can't tell you how awesome I felt the song fit in with the= theme of the show. I did see the one with The Sky is Broken also, and I= actually thought that the use of it was alright also. My weakness,= especially was great for a show like The X-Files. -Matt >I saw an X Files episode with The Sky Is Broken today. (no, it was not My >weakness) The string section of the song came in each time Dana felt= really >emotional. I think Moby's music sounded a bit out of place with the= original >background music by Mark Snow... > >Bart -Matt ------ matt@hollowgen.net "I think anybody who doesn't think I'm smart enough to handle the job is underestimating." --G.W. Bush http://www.hollowgen.net http://bootlegs.hollowgen.net - Live Music Trading ------ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bijou75@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) x files Date: 04 May 2001 05:41:49 EDT --part1_f6.9c81244.2823d35d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 05/03/2001 5:08:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time,=20 matt@hollowgen.net writes: >> My Weakness was used in an episode where Agent Mulder was investigating=20 abductions of children, and I can't tell you how awesome I felt the song fit= =20 in with the theme of the show. << Oh, me too! I cried like a baby during that scene (the episode was titled=20 "Closure," and is one of my favorite episodes of "The X-Files" ever). It wa= s=20 one of the best uses of a song in film or television I've seen to date, and=20 was what finally convinced me, being the tightwad I am, to finally go out an= d=20 buy Play. So see-- some good can come of commercial licensing after all. >> I did see the one with The Sky is Broken also, and I actually thought tha= t=20 the use of it was alright also.=A0 << That episode was titled "all things" and was written by Gillian Anderson (wh= o=20 plays Agt. Scully). The whole episode had the feel of a music video, and=20 "The Sky Is Broken" featured prominently throughout. Moby is one of my favorite musicians, and X Files one of my favorite shows,=20 so... it's just too awesome when they're together.. like chocolate and peanu= t=20 butter. --Carrie, a confessed X-Phile geek --part1_f6.9c81244.2823d35d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated 05/03/= 2001 5:08:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time,=20 <BR>matt@hollowgen.net writes: <BR> <BR>>> My Weakness was used in an episode where Agent Mulder was inves= tigating=20 <BR>abductions of children, and I can't tell you how awesome I felt the song= fit=20 <BR>in with the theme of the show. << <BR> <BR>Oh, me too! I cried like a baby during that scene (the episode was= titled=20 <BR>"Closure," and is one of my favorite episodes of "The X-Files" ever). &n= bsp;It was=20 <BR>one of the best uses of a song in film or television I've seen to date,=20= and=20 <BR>was what finally convinced me, being the tightwad I am, to finally go ou= t and=20 <BR>buy Play. So see-- some good can come of commercial licensing afte= r all. <BR> <BR> <BR>>> I did see the one with The Sky is Broken also, and I actually t= hought that=20 <BR>the use of it was alright also.=A0 << <BR> <BR>That episode was titled "all things" and was written by Gillian Anderson= (who=20 <BR>plays Agt. Scully). The whole episode had the feel of a music vide= o, and=20 <BR>"The Sky Is Broken" featured prominently throughout. <BR> <BR> <BR>Moby is one of my favorite musicians, and X Files one of my favorite sho= ws,=20 <BR>so... it's just too awesome when they're together.. like chocolate and p= eanut=20 <BR>butter. <BR> <BR> <BR>--Carrie, a confessed X-Phile geek</FONT></HTML> --part1_f6.9c81244.2823d35d_boundary-- ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matt Olson" <matt@hollowgen.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) x files Date: 04 May 2001 07:01:23 -0700 --=====_98898488341=_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am one also. Never missed an episode since the pilot. And I agreed with= everything you wrote. -Matt *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** --Carrie, a confessed X-Phile geek -Matt ------ matt@hollowgen.net "I think anybody who doesn't think I'm smart enough to handle the job is underestimating." --G.W. Bush http://www.hollowgen.net http://bootlegs.hollowgen.net - Live Music Trading ------ --=====_98898488341=_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=windows-1252"> <META content="MSHTML 5.50.4134.600" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV>I am one also. Never missed an episode since the pilot. And I agreed with everything you wrote.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>-Matt<BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********<BR><BR></DIV></FONT> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid"><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT size=2><BR><BR>--Carrie, a confessed X-Phile geek</FONT><FONT size=2 Arial></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></FONT></BODY></HTML> <PRE> -Matt ------ matt@hollowgen.net "I think anybody who doesn't think I'm smart enough to handle the job is underestimating." --G.W. Bush http://www.hollowgen.net http://bootlegs.hollowgen.net - Live Music Trading ------</PRE> --=====_98898488341=_-- ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "matthieu" <teardrop@noos.fr> Subject: (mobility) check this cd !!!!!!! Play:the outtakes Date: 04 May 2001 22:21:14 +0200 found on eil.com MOBY Play: The Outtakes (US 17-track promo double CD-R acetates of non-LP outtake tracks including Guitar & Drums, Later & Sway, custom printed discs and picture sleeves) Price: ú 75.00 Anyone rich enough to buy it and make copies for all ? :) matthieu ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Michael Bourke <cbourke1@bigred.unl.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) check this cd !!!!!!! Play:the outtakes Date: 04 May 2001 15:33:07 -0500 > MOBY Play: The Outtakes (US 17-track promo double CD-R acetates of non-LP > outtake tracks including Guitar & Drums, Later & Sway, custom printed > discs and picture sleeves) > Price: =A3 75.00 Someone mentioned this a few weeks ago. Like a lot of us said, its a bootleg, some of the shit is from the Animal Rights days. Don't waste yo= ur cash on this one. ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matt Olson" <matt@hollowgen.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) check this cd !!!!!!! Play:the outtakes Date: 04 May 2001 14:02:38 -0700 but don't forget, some of us also said that you could be wrong! :) but my oh my, that is a steep price. -matt > >Someone mentioned this a few weeks ago. Like a lot of us said, its a >bootleg, some of the shit is from the Animal Rights days. Don't waste= your >cash on this one. -Matt ------ matt@hollowgen.net "I think anybody who doesn't think I'm smart enough to handle the job is underestimating." --G.W. Bush http://www.hollowgen.net http://bootlegs.hollowgen.net - Live Music Trading ------ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "crowes3" <crowes3@email.msn.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby says 100 new songs written Date: 04 May 2001 22:51:33 -0700 Thanks for the update! I'm so excited about Area One...waiting for midnight here in Chicago to order my tix. Also, it's really cool that Moby is listening to soul and gospel. Many of his songs hinted that he might go in that direction, especially from "Play". I've been listening to my "Go" remixes during exercise walking and it's great! Sometimes I can't help but start to dance...Anne ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 1:52 PM > Moby Has More Than 100 Songs Written For New Album > But follow-up to Play likely won't hit stores until next year. > > With his massive Area: One summer tour in the works, one might think new > material is the last thing on Moby's to-do list. Then again, it has been > nearly two years since he released his now-ubiquitous Play. > > > "I'm home working on my album right now. Every day, seven days a week, I'm > at home working on it," Moby said. > > > He has penned more than 100 songs already and is in the process of narrowing > down the list to a more manageable, album-sized package, Moby's manager, > Barry Taylor, said. > > > Don't get too excited, Taylor warned - the material won't see the light of > day for quite some time. "It's too early to say for sure, but I'm guessing > it'll be out either the second or third quarter of next year," he said. > > > Don't expect to hear any remix work from Mr. Richard Melville Hall anytime > soon either. > > > "I'm so easily distracted, I've put a self-imposed moratorium on side > projects," said Moby, who has reportedly turned down remix requests from New > Order and Pulp. "[For the time being], I'm not allowed to do other things. > I'm just focusing on making my own record." > > > Moby revealed no clues about the new disc's sound, but he did say he's been > listening to a lot of '60s soul and gospel lately. > > > Boasting one of the summer's more eclectic lineups - featuring acts from > Outkast to Incubus and Nelly Furtado - Moby's Area: One tour kicks off July > 11 in Atlanta. > > > The festival is his way of paying homage to the spirit of Lollapalooza, Moby > said. "Given the eclectic nature of the artists on the bill, I think it's > gonna be wonderful." > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Snoryder78@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby says 100 new songs written Date: 05 May 2001 04:00:01 EDT ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "maMLUka" <natali_z@netvision.net.il> Subject: (mobility) Moby collaborations!? Date: 05 May 2001 13:19:27 +0200 Can any one tell me if moby ever made a track with Robert miles or Paul oakenfold? if so please name the track thx I love those too so I like to know if my love can be doubled with 2 favorite artists on 1 track :} ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Caviness <bigwigenterprises@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby collaborations!? Date: 05 May 2001 15:35:23 -0700 (PDT) --- maMLUka <natali_z@netvision.net.il> wrote: > Can any one tell me if moby ever made a track with Robert > miles or Paul oakenfold? if so please name the track thx > Oakenfold remixed Natural Blues. it kicked ass. ===== Bradley S. Caviness, Bigwig Bigwig Enterprises http://www.bigwigenterprises.com "We're all writing everyday with our lives, whether or not we ever pick up a pen." û Linford Detweiler, Over the Rhine __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RAARAIR23@aol.com Subject: (mobility) 4th Row Chicago Area One Tix!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Date: 06 May 2001 00:34:30 EDT --part1_a3.157c2958.28262e56_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just thought I'd express my excitement!!!!! I went to ticketmaster this morning and was the only one buying area one tickets for the chicago show at the tweeter center!!!!!! How awesome is that!!!! 4th row seats!!!!!!!!!!! peace cal --part1_a3.157c2958.28262e56_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT COLOR="#ff8000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SCRIPT" FACE="Comic Sans MS" LANG="0"><B>I just thought I'd express my excitement!!!!! I went to ticketmaster this <BR>morning and was the only one buying area one tickets for the chicago show at <BR>the tweeter center!!!!!! How awesome is that!!!! 4th row seats!!!!!!!!!!! <BR> <BR>peace <BR>cal</B></FONT></HTML> --part1_a3.157c2958.28262e56_boundary-- ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RAARAIR23@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Taping Date: 06 May 2001 00:35:29 EDT --part1_60.e2e026a.28262e91_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone, or does anyone intend to tape a moby show?? I know there isn't an open taping policy, but you could stealth it. I'm planning on taping the chicago show. peace cal http://go.to/CalsBootlegs --part1_60.e2e026a.28262e91_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT COLOR="#ff8000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SCRIPT" FACE="Comic Sans MS" LANG="0"><B>Has anyone, or does anyone intend to tape a moby show?? I know there isn't <BR>an open taping policy, but you could stealth it. I'm planning on taping the <BR>chicago show. <BR> <BR>peace <BR>cal <BR> <BR>http://go.to/CalsBootlegs</B></FONT></HTML> --part1_60.e2e026a.28262e91_boundary-- ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Turpin <justified_type@mac.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) 4th Row Chicago Area One Tix!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Date: 06 May 2001 00:40:37 -0500 At 12:34 AM -0400 5/6/01, RAARAIR23@aol.com wrote: >I just thought I'd express my excitement!!!!! I went to ticketmaster this >morning and was the only one buying area one tickets for the chicago show at >the tweeter center!!!!!! How awesome is that!!!! 4th row seats!!!!!!!!!!! You'll be all alone! :) -- John Turpin / <http://homepage.mac.com/justified_type/> "Next after theology I give to music the highest place and the greatest honor." -- Martin Luther ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Wheeler <Jack_Wheeler1@excite.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) 4th Row Chicago Area One Tix!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Date: 06 May 2001 05:05:04 -0700 (PDT) Congrats, I got mine for Toronto. One question I had for anyone who may know,I got mine of the Ticketmaster web page. They have two prices listed $65 and $55. Both come up as general admission. Anyone know why one ticket is worth the extra $10? Thanks Jack On Sun, 6 May 2001 00:34:30 EDT, mobility@lists.xmission.com wrote: > I just thought I'd express my excitement!!!!! I went to ticketmaster this > morning and was the only one buying area one tickets for the chicago show at > the tweeter center!!!!!! How awesome is that!!!! 4th row seats!!!!!!!!!!! > > peace > cal _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Snoryder78@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) 4th Row Chicago Area One Tix!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Date: 06 May 2001 11:42:44 EDT --part1_83.ab267c1.2826caf4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit that is strange, aren't most festivals general admission? Usually not seated, right? ian --part1_83.ab267c1.2826caf4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>that is strange, aren't most festivals general admission? Usually not <BR>seated, right? <BR>ian</FONT></HTML> --part1_83.ab267c1.2826caf4_boundary-- ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sharmi23@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) 4th Row Chicago Area One Tix!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Date: 06 May 2001 12:27:20 EDT --part1_8a.643c997.2826d568_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit well, in the dte energy centre, when they had the lollapalooza's some of the main acts were under a pavilion and the other stages were strewn around other areas. The higher price was for those that were seated under the pavilion area. I know this for a fact because at the first lollapalooza i had general admission and we were not permitted to go under the pavilion but could watch from a large hill right above it (basically the distance of a balcony seat of large venues) and for the second one, my friend's dad was george clinton's accountant so we got seats really close up and they had tight security at the entrance to the pavilion. i'd suggest that if you were wondering about ticket prices seeming a bit fishy you should look at the layout of the festival area or ask a ticketmaster worker. -Sharmila --part1_8a.643c997.2826d568_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT COLOR="#408080" SIZE=2> <BR>well, in the dte energy centre, when they had the lollapalooza's some of the <BR>main acts were under a pavilion and the other stages were strewn around other <BR>areas. The higher price was for those that were seated under the pavilion <BR>area. I know this for a fact because at the first lollapalooza i had general <BR>admission and we were not permitted to go under the pavilion but could watch <BR>from a large hill right above it (basically the distance of a balcony seat of <BR>large venues) and for the second one, my friend's dad was george clinton's <BR>accountant so we got seats really close up and they had tight security at the <BR>entrance to the pavilion. i'd suggest that if you were wondering about <BR>ticket prices seeming a bit fishy you should look at the layout of the <BR>festival area or ask a ticketmaster worker. <BR> <BR>-Sharmila</FONT></HTML> --part1_8a.643c997.2826d568_boundary-- ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bart van Eijck" <j.vaneyck@chello.nl> Subject: (mobility) Time's up Date: 07 May 2001 17:27:53 +0200 I will probably make a sort of jazzy latin remix of Time's Up by the Brotherhood, the first record ever to contain Moby on electronic instruments, but until now everything has been against me :( Since I don't have/play any instruments I have to cut & paste everything from samples, and all the cool samples I found were all in a slightly different key so I couldn't combine them, also, I don't really have the time to work on this and getting all the samples to play a bit synchronized is relly difficult, because I don't have a midi clock or so to hold on to... I just use the hiphop beat sample as guidance for the rest of the samples But some time I will finish it, promise :) And with a bit of luck it will be this month, so that you all can enjoy the sweet jazzy latin sounds while sitting in the summer sun. Of course, when it is ready I will let you all know where to get it. Bart ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Caetano78@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Time's up Date: 07 May 2001 11:58:05 EDT --part1_a1.14e42b44.2828200d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit good luck bard..i know how difficult it can be to try to make music without all the great technological advancements we have now in the present..but continue to do it and update my material whenever i can, financially..love..elie --part1_a1.14e42b44.2828200d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT COLOR="#004080" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Lucida Sans" LANG="0">good luck bard..i know how difficult it can be to try to make music without <BR>all the great technological advancements we have now in the present..but <BR>continue to do it and update my material whenever i can, <BR>financially..love..elie</FONT></HTML> --part1_a1.14e42b44.2828200d_boundary-- ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "maMLUka" <natali_z@netvision.net.il> Subject: Re: (mobility) Time's up Date: 07 May 2001 22:16:35 +0200 is times up in the play b-side the same song? thats a great song THE TIME IS UP.... THE TIME IS UP>> ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 5:27 PM > I will probably make a sort of jazzy latin remix of Time's Up by the > Brotherhood, the first record ever to contain Moby on electronic > instruments, but until now everything has been against me :( Since I don't > have/play any instruments I have to cut & paste everything from samples, and > all the cool samples I found were all in a slightly different key so I > couldn't combine them, also, I don't really have the time to work on this > and getting all the samples to play a bit synchronized is relly difficult, > because I don't have a midi clock or so to hold on to... I just use the > hiphop beat sample as guidance for the rest of the samples > > But some time I will finish it, promise :) > And with a bit of luck it will be this month, so that you all can enjoy the > sweet jazzy latin sounds while sitting in the summer sun. > > Of course, when it is ready I will let you all know where to get it. > > Bart > > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. > ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJTripp2@aol.com Subject: (mobility) dj tripp mp3's Date: 07 May 2001 22:30:50 EDT DJ TRIPP VS MOBY MP3's <A HREF="http://www.djtripp.com/I Feel The Times Up (1KX Mix)_Dj Tripp.mp3"> http://www.djtripp.com/I Feel The Times Up (1KX Mix)_Dj Tripp.mp3</A> <A HREF="http://www.djtripp.com/Honey (Dj Tripp incursion)_Dj Tripp.mp3"> http://www.djtripp.com/</A>Honey (Dj Tripp incursion)_Dj Tripp.mp3 <A HREF="http://www.djtripp.com/My Weakness (My Love)_Dj Tripp.mp3"> http://www.djtripp.com/My Weakness (My Love)_Dj Tripp.mp3</A> <A HREF="http://www.djtripp.com/Natural Blues (Dj Tripps Natural Remix)_Dj Tripp.mp3">http://www.djtripp.com/Natural Blues (Dj Tripps Natural Remix)_Dj Tripp.mp3</A> <A HREF="http://www.djtripp.com/Porcelain (Dub Of Doom Mix)_Dj Tripp.mp3"> http://www.djtripp.com/Porcelain (Dub Of Doom Mix)_Dj Tripp.mp3</A> <A HREF="http://www.djtripp.com/Porcelain (Out Of My Mind Mix)_Dj Tripp.mp3"> http://www.djtripp.com/Porcelain (Out Of My Mind Mix)_Dj Tripp.mp3</A> <A HREF="http://www.djtripp.com/Say Its All Mine (Dj Tripps Ozone Mix)_Dj Tripp.mp3">http://www.djtripp.com/Say Its All Mine (Dj Tripps Ozone Mix)_Dj Tripp.mp3</A> <A HREF="http://www.djtripp.com/When Its Cold Id Like To Die (Beat Me up Mix)_Dj Tripp.mp3">http://www.djtripp.com/</A>When Its Cold Id Like To Die (Beat Me up Mix)_Dj Tripp.mp3 cut and paste or click here to download... dj tripp ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Taylor" <nobuttonstopush@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) dj tripp mp3's Date: 08 May 2001 14:32:31 This shit just don't work dude. Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com DJ TRIPP VS MOBY MP3's <A HREF="http://www.djtripp.com/I Feel The Times Up (1KX Mix)_Dj Tripp.mp3"> http://www.djtripp.com/I Feel The Times Up (1KX Mix)_Dj Tripp.mp3</A> <A HREF="http://www.djtripp.com/Honey (Dj Tripp incursion)_Dj Tripp.mp3"> http://www.djtripp.com/</A>Honey (Dj Tripp incursion)_Dj Tripp.mp3 <A HREF="http://www.djtripp.com/My Weakness (My Love)_Dj Tripp.mp3"> http://www.djtripp.com/My Weakness (My Love)_Dj Tripp.mp3</A> <A HREF="http://www.djtripp.com/Natural Blues (Dj Tripps Natural Remix)_Dj Tripp.mp3">http://www.djtripp.com/Natural Blues (Dj Tripps Natural Remix)_Dj Tripp.mp3</A> <A HREF="http://www.djtripp.com/Porcelain (Dub Of Doom Mix)_Dj Tripp.mp3"> http://www.djtripp.com/Porcelain (Dub Of Doom Mix)_Dj Tripp.mp3</A> <A HREF="http://www.djtripp.com/Porcelain (Out Of My Mind Mix)_Dj Tripp.mp3"> http://www.djtripp.com/Porcelain (Out Of My Mind Mix)_Dj Tripp.mp3</A> <A HREF="http://www.djtripp.com/Say Its All Mine (Dj Tripps Ozone Mix)_Dj Tripp.mp3">http://www.djtripp.com/Say Its All Mine (Dj Tripps Ozone Mix)_Dj Tripp.mp3</A> <A HREF="http://www.djtripp.com/When Its Cold Id Like To Die (Beat Me up Mix)_Dj Tripp.mp3">http://www.djtripp.com/</A>When Its Cold Id Like To Die (Beat Me up Mix)_Dj Tripp.mp3 cut and paste or click here to download... dj tripp ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mike e." <donkeymike@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) dj tripp mp3's Date: 08 May 2001 10:33:29 -0700 (PDT) NOPE NOPE This shit just don't work dude. > > > > > > > From: DJTripp2@aol.com > Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (mobility) dj tripp mp3's > Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 22:30:50 EDT > > DJ TRIPP VS MOBY MP3's > > > <A HREF="http://www.djtripp.com/I Feel The Times Up > (1KX Mix)_Dj Tripp.mp3"> > http://www.djtripp.com/I Feel The Times Up (1KX > Mix)_Dj Tripp.mp3</A> > > <A HREF="http://www.djtripp.com/Honey (Dj Tripp > incursion)_Dj Tripp.mp3"> > http://www.djtripp.com/</A>Honey (Dj Tripp > incursion)_Dj Tripp.mp3 > > <A HREF="http://www.djtripp.com/My Weakness (My > Love)_Dj Tripp.mp3"> > http://www.djtripp.com/My Weakness (My Love)_Dj > Tripp.mp3</A> > > <A HREF="http://www.djtripp.com/Natural Blues (Dj > Tripps Natural Remix)_Dj > Tripp.mp3">http://www.djtripp.com/Natural Blues (Dj > Tripps Natural Remix)_Dj > Tripp.mp3</A> > > <A HREF="http://www.djtripp.com/Porcelain (Dub Of > Doom Mix)_Dj Tripp.mp3"> > http://www.djtripp.com/Porcelain (Dub Of Doom > Mix)_Dj Tripp.mp3</A> > > <A HREF="http://www.djtripp.com/Porcelain (Out Of My > Mind Mix)_Dj > Tripp.mp3"> > http://www.djtripp.com/Porcelain (Out Of My Mind > Mix)_Dj Tripp.mp3</A> > > <A HREF="http://www.djtripp.com/Say Its All Mine (Dj > Tripps Ozone Mix)_Dj > Tripp.mp3">http://www.djtripp.com/Say Its All Mine > (Dj Tripps Ozone Mix)_Dj > Tripp.mp3</A> > > <A HREF="http://www.djtripp.com/When Its Cold Id > Like To Die (Beat Me up > Mix)_Dj Tripp.mp3">http://www.djtripp.com/</A>When > Its Cold Id Like To Die > (Beat Me up Mix)_Dj Tripp.mp3 > > > cut and paste or click here to download... > > dj tripp > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com > > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ===== "It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it." -Former US Vice President Dan Quayle __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Snoryder78@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) dj tripp mp3's Date: 08 May 2001 14:11:32 EDT --part1_db.141d8b24.282990d4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I got my weakness (my love) to play. It's got a pretty nice beat. peace ian --part1_db.141d8b24.282990d4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>I got my weakness (my love) to play. It's got a pretty nice beat. <BR>peace <BR>ian</FONT></HTML> --part1_db.141d8b24.282990d4_boundary-- ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: j j <moby_girl@excite.com> Subject: (mobility) 4th Row Chicago Area One Tix!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Date: 08 May 2001 11:54:08 -0700 (PDT) > I just thought I'd express my excitement!!!!! I went to ticketmaster this > morning and was the only one buying area one tickets for the chicago show at > the tweeter center!!!!!! How awesome is that!!!! 4th row seats!!!!!!!!!!! > > peace > cal > Cal, I will be there also. I only managed 7th row center which isn't bad considering I was on an airplane at the time and couldn't order till I landed. See you there. Jen _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: j j <moby_girl@excite.com> Subject: (mobility) 4th Row Chicago Area One Tix!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Date: 08 May 2001 12:00:59 -0700 (PDT) > I just thought I'd express my excitement!!!!! I went to ticketmaster this > morning and was the only one buying area one >tickets for the chicago show at the tweeter center!!!!!! How awesome >is that!!!! 4th row seats!!!!!!!!!!! > peace > cal > Cal, I will be there also. I only managed 7th row center which isn't bad considering I was on an airplane at the time and couldn't order till I landed. See you there. Jen _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJTripp2@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) dj tripp mp3's Date: 08 May 2001 15:24:12 EDT Here are the fixed links. just cut and paste! sorry :) http://www.djtripp.com/Honey_DjTrippIncursion_DjTripp.mp3 http://www.djtripp.com/IFeelTheTimesUp_1KXMix_DjTripp.mp3 http://www.djtripp.com/MyWeakness_MyLove_DjTripp.mp3 http://www.djtripp.com/NaturalBlues_DjTrippsNaturalRemix_DjTripp.mp3 http://www.djtripp.com/Porcelain_DubOfDoomMix_DjTripp.mp3 http://www.djtripp.com/Porcelain_OutOfMyMindMix_DjTripp.mp3 http://www.djtripp.com/SayItsAllMine_DjTrippsOzoneMix_DjTripp.mp3 http://www.djtripp.com/WhenItsColdIdLikeToDie_BeatMeupMix_DjTripp.mp3 and below is my white label thats been out for a couple of months now...if anyone wants a copy on vinyl e-mail me! http://www.djtripp.com/Everything_But_The_Girl_VS_Spiller_Missing_Groove_dj_tr ipp_mix.mp3 dj tripp. ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mike e." <donkeymike@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) dj tripp mp3's Date: 08 May 2001 13:11:15 -0700 (PDT) No Worries! ;) --- DJTripp2@aol.com wrote: > Here are the fixed links. just cut and paste! sorry > :) > > > > http://www.djtripp.com/Honey_DjTrippIncursion_DjTripp.mp3 > > > http://www.djtripp.com/IFeelTheTimesUp_1KXMix_DjTripp.mp3 > > > http://www.djtripp.com/MyWeakness_MyLove_DjTripp.mp3 > > > http://www.djtripp.com/NaturalBlues_DjTrippsNaturalRemix_DjTripp.mp3 > > > http://www.djtripp.com/Porcelain_DubOfDoomMix_DjTripp.mp3 > > > http://www.djtripp.com/Porcelain_OutOfMyMindMix_DjTripp.mp3 > > > http://www.djtripp.com/SayItsAllMine_DjTrippsOzoneMix_DjTripp.mp3 > > > http://www.djtripp.com/WhenItsColdIdLikeToDie_BeatMeupMix_DjTripp.mp3 > > and below is my white label thats been out for a > couple of months now...if > anyone wants a copy on vinyl > e-mail me! > > > > http://www.djtripp.com/Everything_But_The_Girl_VS_Spiller_Missing_Groove_dj_tr > > ipp_mix.mp3 > > dj tripp. > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ===== "It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it." -Former US Vice President Dan Quayle __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Taylor" <nobuttonstopush@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) dj tripp mp3's Date: 08 May 2001 20:15:44 I wish we could save these to play another time. Does anyone know how??? Or am I just not doing something right. RT Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com No Worries! ;) --- DJTripp2@aol.com wrote: > Here are the fixed links. just cut and paste! sorry > :) > > > > http://www.djtripp.com/Honey_DjTrippIncursion_DjTripp.mp3 > > > http://www.djtripp.com/IFeelTheTimesUp_1KXMix_DjTripp.mp3 > > > http://www.djtripp.com/MyWeakness_MyLove_DjTripp.mp3 > > > http://www.djtripp.com/NaturalBlues_DjTrippsNaturalRemix_DjTripp.mp3 > > > http://www.djtripp.com/Porcelain_DubOfDoomMix_DjTripp.mp3 > > > http://www.djtripp.com/Porcelain_OutOfMyMindMix_DjTripp.mp3 > > > http://www.djtripp.com/SayItsAllMine_DjTrippsOzoneMix_DjTripp.mp3 > > > http://www.djtripp.com/WhenItsColdIdLikeToDie_BeatMeupMix_DjTripp.mp3 > > and below is my white label thats been out for a > couple of months now...if > anyone wants a copy on vinyl > e-mail me! > > > > http://www.djtripp.com/Everything_But_The_Girl_VS_Spiller_Missing_Groove_dj_tr > > ipp_mix.mp3 > > dj tripp. > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ===== "It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it." -Former US Vice President Dan Quayle __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Snoryder78@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) dj tripp mp3's Date: 08 May 2001 16:51:12 EDT --part1_f.1403b2be.2829b640_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit when you click the link it should ask what you want to do with the file, choose to save it to disk. Then another box will come up that says save as in the top left corner. choose a folder and save. If you already know that, then I'm not sure what the deal is. peace ian --part1_f.1403b2be.2829b640_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>when you click the link it should ask what you want to do with the file, <BR>choose to save it to disk. Then another box will come up that says save as <BR>in the top left corner. choose a folder and save. <BR>If you already know that, then I'm not sure what the deal is. <BR>peace <BR>ian</FONT></HTML> --part1_f.1403b2be.2829b640_boundary-- ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Taylor" <nobuttonstopush@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) dj tripp mp3's Date: 08 May 2001 21:03:10 Well ya see, when I click on the link it just begins to download it. When I right click, it does not give me a save option. RT Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com when you click the link it should ask what you want to do with the file, choose to save it to disk. Then another box will come up that says save as in the top left corner. choose a folder and save. If you already know that, then I'm not sure what the deal is. peace ian _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matt Olson" <matt@hollowgen.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) dj tripp mp3's Date: 08 May 2001 14:34:36 -0700 go to your browser's temp directory, there you should find it stored.= there are other ways, but trust me, they're much more complicated. ta ta, Matt *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 05/08/2001 at 9:03 PM Robert Taylor wrote: >Well ya see, when I click on the link it just begins to download it. >When I right click, it does not give me a save option. > >RT -Matt ------ matt@hollowgen.net "I think anybody who doesn't think I'm smart enough to handle the job is underestimating." --G.W. Bush http://www.hollowgen.net http://bootlegs.hollowgen.net - Live Music Trading ------ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJ Paul Simpson <techno_gpig@yahoo.com> Subject: (mobility) just in case anyone cares... Date: 10 May 2001 11:16:28 -0700 (PDT) South Side is number 15 with a bullet on the Hot 100. Wow, the TRL crowd just can't get enough of that song! Wow! Also, look here and you will see Paul Oakenfold with a mullet: http://www.nme.com/NME/External/Features/Features_Interview/0,1420,28165,00.html ROCK! DJ PAUL ===== "And then Michael suddenly appeared out of nowhere, looking crescent fresh--isn't that a funny expression? I learned it from Michael--in the tux his mom made him get for his cousin Steve's bar mitzvah." Some book called "The Princess Diaries" that my little sister check out of the library, and proof that Sifl & Olly have become part of mainstream pop culture... or something ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DJ PAUL, host of Chester's Blanket Fort, 89.5 FM/wpkn.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matt Olson" <matt@hollowgen.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) just in case anyone cares... Date: 10 May 2001 11:25:43 -0700 > >Also, look here and you will see Paul Oakenfold with a >mullet: >http://www.nme.com/NME/External/Features/Features_Interview/0,1420,28165,00= .html OH MY GOD! bwahahaha that is the funniest thing i've seen in a long time!! -Matt ------ matt@hollowgen.net "I think anybody who doesn't think I'm smart enough to handle the job is underestimating." --G.W. Bush http://www.hollowgen.net http://bootlegs.hollowgen.net - Live Music Trading ------ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader <docshasta@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) just in case anyone cares... Date: 10 May 2001 11:25:52 -0700 (PDT) --- DJ Paul Simpson <techno_gpig@yahoo.com> wrote: > Wow, the TRL crowd just can't get enough of that song! > Wow! It's on TRL now or what? I thought that song has been slowly fading but I guess not. I ordered my presale tickets to Area One today for the SoCal date. Ticketbastard charges are insane. Two tickets should have been 118 but it ended up being 148.20. Plus it took like 15 or 20 minutes after the on-sale time to actually get into the web site. Does anyone know how well this tour is selling? I am surprised at the high prices I'm sure it would deter many people from going. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AtoMiKSoUL@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) just in case anyone cares... Date: 10 May 2001 14:39:07 EDT I tried buying tickets to the Boston show, and I also couldn't get on till about 20 minutes after the on-sale time. I ended up not buying tix, because I refuse to pay $72 PLUS an $8 handling fee to sit my ass in a chair and not be able to dance to all these amazing performers. If anyone knows the layout for the Tweeter Center, you know what I mean. I think that's a ridicoulous amount of money just to sit in a chair. Sorry, Moby, you got my money three times before, but not on this one. *Adrienne ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Snoryder78@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) just in case anyone cares... Date: 10 May 2001 14:46:37 EDT --part1_2f.14d5f4ab.282c3c0d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That defenitely sucks. I really wanna go, but from what I hear about prices and venue it doesn't sound worth it. As much as I hate to say that cause I would love to see that line up. Peace Ian --part1_2f.14d5f4ab.282c3c0d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>That defenitely sucks. I really wanna go, but from what I hear about prices <BR>and venue it doesn't sound worth it. As much as I hate to say that cause I <BR>would love to see that line up. <BR>Peace <BR>Ian</FONT></HTML> --part1_2f.14d5f4ab.282c3c0d_boundary-- ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dj pagan <djpagan@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) just in case anyone cares... Date: 10 May 2001 12:41:05 -0700 (PDT) --- AtoMiKSoUL@aol.com wrote: > I ended up not buying tix, because I refuse to > pay $72 PLUS an $8 handling fee to sit my ass > in a chair and not be able to dance to all > these amazing performers. If anyone knows the > layout for the Tweeter Center, you know what I > mean. I think that's a ridicoulous amount of > money just to sit in a chair. Sorry, Moby, you > got my money three times before, but not on > this one. i think it's a ridiculous amount of money, period. the more and more moby ventures out into the world of promotions, the more and more his non-capitalistic image is slipping away. i'm disappointed, now. i love the music. i love the man. i beginning to hate the image, though. i'm also beginning to lose the love i once had for moby. i'm not trying to be pretentious or anything, but the more and more that he does is becoming more and more extravagant, expensive, etc... what happened to the man who made music in his bedroom and did touring with a crate of records? what happened to the intimate clubs he played at with a tiny band? it's all about the show, the glamour, the glitz, now. i fear what's to come. moby... what happened? /djp ===== djpagan www.geocities.com/projectaristotle "it is enough." - immanuel kant, his last words __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader <docshasta@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) just in case anyone cares... Date: 10 May 2001 13:07:33 -0700 (PDT) --- dj pagan <djpagan@yahoo.com> wrote: > records? what happened to the intimate clubs he > played at with a tiny band? it's all about the > show, the glamour, the glitz, now. i fear what's > to come. While I do think the ticket prices are a bit high I took a look at another 'festival' type concert that was playing at the same venue as the Moby festival... it was Ozzfest. The prices ranged from about 35 to 135. I was shocked. Also I see that The Offspring concert in SoCal is 40 dollars in a huge ampitheatre (with only 2 opening bands.. this isn't even a festival). I feel like there *might* be a huge overhead for the bigger venues which forces the price to be high. There is also a lot of talent touring with Area One. How much was Coachella? Those were real expensive as well (more talent yes, but held a TON more than the Area One venues). I have seen Moby at a fairly large venue (The Greek in Los Angeles) as well as a slew of small venues. He seems to be more into talking to the audience in the huge venues and I actually enjoyed The Greek show more than I thought I would (even though I had seats). I can only imagine how big the Blockbuster Pavillion is. I would say give him one chance (if you can afford it) in a big venue you might be surprised. I think I use too many parenthesis. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dj pagan <djpagan@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) just in case anyone cares... Date: 10 May 2001 13:54:54 -0700 (PDT) --- Shaun Rader <docshasta@yahoo.com> wrote: > While I do think the ticket prices are a bit > high I took a look at another 'festival' type > concert that was playing at the same venue as > the Moby festival... it was Ozzfest. The > prices ranged from about 35 to 135. I was > shocked. new rock fest in milwaukee runs about $40 maximum. two stages, lots of fun. $40. big names as well. > Also I see that The Offspring concert in SoCal > is 40 dollars in a huge ampitheatre (with only > 2 opening bands.. this isn't even a festival). i think that's obscene as well, considering at just $30 a ticket with all the concession sales and sheer volumes, they could easily cover the overhead. that is, unless you don't want that extra $10 a ticket for profit. > There is also a lot of talent touring with Area > One. How much was Coachella? Those were real > expensive as well (more talent yes, but held a > TON more than the Area One venues). tickets to coachella had four stages, and makes perfect sense for the price they were offering. this concert does not. > I have seen Moby at a fairly large venue (The > Greek in Los Angeles) as well as a slew of > small venues. i don't want moby at a large venue if it costs $72 to see him. it's not worth it. at all. please, all you moby lovers, start flaming me. i welcome it. /djp ===== djpagan www.geocities.com/projectaristotle "it is enough." - immanuel kant, his last words __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Insrtbrain@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) just in case anyone cares... Date: 10 May 2001 17:05:39 EDT --part1_7a.14985167.282c5ca3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/10/01 12:41:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time, djpagan@yahoo.com writes: > but the more and more that he does is > becoming more and more extravagant, expensive, > etc... what happened to the man who made music in > his bedroom and did touring with a crate of > records? Interesting... I recently referred to Moby as a VH1/MTV whore.... I still love and adore the man for his music.. but every damn VH1 or MTV special has Moby in it.... I remember laughing at the irony of him being interviewed for the Top 40 Greatest Hair Bands.. --part1_7a.14985167.282c5ca3_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 5/10/01 12:41:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time, <BR>djpagan@yahoo.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">but the more and more that he does is <BR>becoming more and more extravagant, expensive, <BR>etc... what happened to the man who made music in <BR>his bedroom and did touring with a crate of <BR>records? </BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>Interesting... I recently referred to Moby as a VH1/MTV whore.... I still <BR>love and adore the man for his music.. but every damn VH1 or MTV special has <BR>Moby in it.... I remember laughing at the irony of him being interviewed for <BR>the Top 40 Greatest Hair Bands..</FONT></HTML> --part1_7a.14985167.282c5ca3_boundary-- ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dj pagan <djpagan@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) just in case anyone cares... Date: 10 May 2001 13:54:54 -0700 (PDT) --- Shaun Rader <docshasta@yahoo.com> wrote: > While I do think the ticket prices are a bit > high I took a look at another 'festival' type > concert that was playing at the same venue as > the Moby festival... it was Ozzfest. The > prices ranged from about 35 to 135. I was > shocked. new rock fest in milwaukee runs about $40 maximum. two stages, lots of fun. $40. big names as well. > Also I see that The Offspring concert in SoCal > is 40 dollars in a huge ampitheatre (with only > 2 opening bands.. this isn't even a festival). i think that's obscene as well, considering at just $30 a ticket with all the concession sales and sheer volumes, they could easily cover the overhead. that is, unless you don't want that extra $10 a ticket for profit. > There is also a lot of talent touring with Area > One. How much was Coachella? Those were real > expensive as well (more talent yes, but held a > TON more than the Area One venues). tickets to coachella had four stages, and makes perfect sense for the price they were offering. this concert does not. > I have seen Moby at a fairly large venue (The > Greek in Los Angeles) as well as a slew of > small venues. i don't want moby at a large venue if it costs $72 to see him. it's not worth it. at all. please, all you moby lovers, start flaming me. i welcome it. /djp ===== djpagan www.geocities.com/projectaristotle "it is enough." - immanuel kant, his last words __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Insrtbrain@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) just in case anyone cares... Date: 10 May 2001 19:33:27 EDT --part1_103.31986b8.282c7f47_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/10/01 3:08:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, djpagan@yahoo.com writes: > it's not worth it. at all. > please, all you moby lovers, start flaming me. i > Why do you want to be flamed? Maybe some people think you are right. --part1_103.31986b8.282c7f47_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 5/10/01 3:08:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, <BR>djpagan@yahoo.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">it's not worth it. at all. <BR>please, all you moby lovers, start flaming me. i <BR>welcome it.</BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>Why do you want to be flamed? Maybe some people think you are right.</FONT></HTML> --part1_103.31986b8.282c7f47_boundary-- ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader <docshasta@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) just in case anyone cares... Date: 10 May 2001 17:06:22 -0700 (PDT) --- dj pagan <djpagan@yahoo.com> wrote: > new rock fest in milwaukee runs about $40 > maximum. two stages, lots of fun. $40. big > names as well. Yeah, Warped Tour has top notch modern day punk rock bands for cheap every year (like 25 to 30 bux). > tickets to coachella had four stages, and makes > perfect sense for the price they were offering. > this concert does not. Organic 96 had 4 stages but only the main stage had big names like Orbital, Underworld, Chemical Brothers, The Orb, others. It was only 30 dollars. I think 59 is an absurd amount compared to that brilliant lineup but compared to what I am seeing now with Coachella, Ozzfest, and others it's 'ok'. > i don't want moby at a large venue if it costs > $72 to see him. it's not worth it. at all. > please, all you moby lovers, start flaming me. i > welcome it. I hate Ticketmaster with a passion. How did a 59 dollar ticket end up being 74.10 dollars? If I see that a show is 15 dollars I expect to pay 20+ for it in the end. Would you have went for 59 dollars? I sure hope I don't regret the 148 dollars I spent on two tickets.. we shall see. (that IS a lot of money, what have I done??) At least I got orchestra pit tickets (don't know how big the 'pit' is though). I hope The Orb isn't on when Moby is on I still haven't seen them. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kelly manis <electronica101@netzero.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) just in case anyone cares.. Date: 10 May 2001 19:22:54 -0500 --------------60EEB416B215F77351ACAE29 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Yeah, to say my 2 cents about this debate, --I was all psyched about the internet presale tickets thang held about a week ago. (Becuase I was fully prepared with someone to go with and could potentially get awesome seats) Well anyway it took me forever to get tickets and when I saw the price, 56 dollars for not so good pavillion seats, I hesitated to buy these tickets with such outrageous ticketmaster additional charges that people have been ranting about also. Crazy, I thought- I thought they would be a little cheaper, I know its an amazing lineup Moby has but I am hesitant to buy such expensive tickets to a venue that outright sucks......(Tweeter Center) --------------60EEB416B215F77351ACAE29 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <blockquote TYPE=CITE><a href="http://www.hollowgen.net"></a> </blockquote> Yeah, to say my 2 cents about this debate, --I was all psyched about the internet presale tickets thang held about a week ago. (Becuase I was fully prepared with someone to go with and could potentially get awesome seats) Well anyway it took me forever to get tickets and when I saw the price, 56 dollars for not so good pavillion seats, I hesitated to buy these tickets with such outrageous ticketmaster additional charges that people have been ranting about also. Crazy, I thought- I thought they would be a little cheaper, I know its an amazing lineup Moby has but I am hesitant to buy such expensive tickets to a venue that outright sucks......(Tweeter Center) <br> </html> --------------60EEB416B215F77351ACAE29-- NetZero Platinum No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://www.netzero.net ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AtoMiKSoUL@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) just in case anyone cares.. Date: 11 May 2001 00:34:14 EDT >>Crazy, I thought-I thoght they would be a little cheaper, I know it's an amazing lineup Moby has but I am hesitant to buy such expensive tickets to a venue that outright sucks...(Tweeter Center)>> You're right. The layout for Tweeter sucks, and even though I am going to see another show there (depeche Mode), I still won't be happy. I first saw Moby three years ago in a small club (Vanderbuilt) on Long Island for ten bucks. It was amazing, and the two times I have gone back to see him I noticed the tix got more expensive and the quality of the venues declined. Lupo's in Providence was crowded, and Avalon was downright disgusting. That show, along with Paul Oakenfold, convinced me to never spend another dime on that club. I guess I would rather see Moby in a small club or venu, because the vibe is so much more palpable and positive. But that's just my opinion. *Adrienne ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJ Paul Simpson <techno_gpig@yahoo.com> Subject: (mobility) silly question Date: 11 May 2001 04:19:12 -0700 (PDT) how many here would pay 72 bucks plus whatever else hidden fees for the tour, if moby had invited WEEZER?!?!?!? just asking ;P ROCK! DJ PAUL ===== "Computer games don't affect kids; if Pac-man had affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DJ PAUL, host of Chester's Blanket Fort, 89.5 FM/wpkn.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Caetano78@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) just in case anyone cares.. Date: 11 May 2001 10:16:59 EDT --part1_5a.1561209b.282d4e5b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit to be honest with all of you guys.. YOU'RE NOT REAL MOBY FANS!!! JUST KIDDING.... i am glad to be going to brasil when moby comes to Jersey...i'm not so much complaining about the costs beacause any bands or festivals that team up with Ticketmaster is going to charge us a fortune for the most part... REMEMBER PEARL JAM BACK IN THE DAY TRYING TO FIGHT AGAINST TICKETMASTER?? i would have definitely been concerned about the Venue instead...from what i have been getting from the rest of the posts is that the Area festival is going to be in more Pavillion like places where the idea of a festival may not seem fit for the place..when i think of festivals, i think of old stadiums or a huge field of some kind...i don't know how they are going to fit different stages at PNC in new jersey... also, getting great seats for the PNC has been close to impossible over the past few years due to its popularity for summer shows and lawn seats go back close to a mile...Moby will be a little ant on stage... i have been lucky enough to see him numerous times and going to see moby as an ant this summer would not have made my day...love..elie --part1_5a.1561209b.282d4e5b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT COLOR="#004080" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Lucida Sans" LANG="0">to be honest with all of you guys.. <BR>YOU'RE NOT REAL MOBY FANS!!! <BR> <BR> <BR>JUST KIDDING.... <BR>i am glad to be going to brasil when moby comes to Jersey...i'm not so much <BR>complaining about the costs beacause any bands or festivals that team up with <BR>Ticketmaster is going to charge us a fortune for the most part... <BR>REMEMBER PEARL JAM BACK IN THE DAY TRYING TO FIGHT AGAINST TICKETMASTER?? <BR>i would have definitely been concerned about the Venue instead...from what i <BR>have been getting from the rest of the posts is that the Area festival is <BR>going to be in more Pavillion like places where the idea of a festival may <BR>not seem fit for the place..when i think of festivals, i think of old <BR>stadiums or a huge field of some kind...i don't know how they are going to <BR>fit different stages at PNC in new jersey... <BR>also, getting great seats for the PNC has been close to impossible over the <BR>past few years due to its popularity for summer shows and lawn seats go back <BR>close to a mile...Moby will be a little ant on stage... <BR>i have been lucky enough to see him numerous times and going to see moby as <BR>an ant this summer would not have made my day...love..elie</FONT></HTML> --part1_5a.1561209b.282d4e5b_boundary-- ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Caetano78@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) silly question Date: 11 May 2001 10:18:12 EDT --part1_3b.144f8769.282d4ea4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i would have paid only if Moby invited the winner of this years Carnaval school in Rio de Janeiro, Brasil to perform..and i am not joking!! L>E> --part1_3b.144f8769.282d4ea4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT COLOR="#004080" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Lucida Sans" LANG="0">i would have paid only if Moby invited the winner of this years Carnaval <BR>school in Rio de Janeiro, Brasil to perform..and i am not joking!! <BR> <BR>L>E></FONT></HTML> --part1_3b.144f8769.282d4ea4_boundary-- ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Snoryder78@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) just in case anyone cares.. Date: 11 May 2001 11:26:31 EDT --part1_ad.ab4d5a8.282d5ea7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >the Area festival is >going to be in more Pavillion like places where the idea of a festival may >not seem fit for the place..when i think of festivals, i think of old >stadiums or a huge field of some kind... I agree, when I went to endfest in seattle a few years ago it was a huge dirt field, no seats. There were booths and tents surrounding. It really felt like a festival. It was great, you could get close to the stage if you wanted to but there were also places to lay out a blanket and sit back. You had the freedom to explore the whole venue which seems to me the spirit of a festival. --part1_ad.ab4d5a8.282d5ea7_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>>the Area festival is <BR>>going to be in more Pavillion like places where the idea of a festival may <BR>>not seem fit for the place..when i think of festivals, i think of old <BR>>stadiums or a huge field of some kind... <BR> <BR>I agree, when I went to endfest in seattle a few years ago it was a huge dirt <BR>field, no seats. There were booths and tents surrounding. It really felt <BR>like a festival. It was great, you could get close to the stage if you <BR>wanted to but there were also places to lay out a blanket and sit back. You <BR>had the freedom to explore the whole venue which seems to me the spirit of a <BR>festival. <BR></FONT></HTML> --part1_ad.ab4d5a8.282d5ea7_boundary-- ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dj pagan <djpagan@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) silly question Date: 11 May 2001 08:28:37 -0700 (PDT) --- DJ Paul Simpson <techno_gpig@yahoo.com> wrote: > how many here would pay 72 bucks plus whatever > else hidden fees for the tour, if moby had > invited WEEZER?!?!?!? this would make me run screaming away from the scene. ::smile:: oh, come on! you had to expect something from me! all love of course! /djp ===== djpagan www.geocities.com/projectaristotle "it is enough." - immanuel kant, his last words __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dj pagan <djpagan@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) just in case anyone cares... Date: 11 May 2001 08:35:59 -0700 (PDT) --- Insrtbrain@aol.com wrote: > Why do you want to be flamed? Maybe some > people think you are right. i'm just used to fans on this list saying things like, "i would pay any amount of money to see moby! he's the best!" only with misspellings and net jargon thrown in there. and also, whenever anyone seems to waver in their fandom, the older set usually jumps on them. i'm disappointed with moby. it's not getting any better with area:one, but only worse. /djp ===== djpagan www.geocities.com/projectaristotle "it is enough." - immanuel kant, his last words __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mike e." <donkeymike@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) just in case anyone cares... Date: 11 May 2001 09:00:11 -0700 (PDT) > mE for Pey allthings fer to see mObny plays !* Ifn ony i coud see for howe he play live! :+) > i'm just used to fans on this list saying things > like, "i would pay any amount of money to see > moby! he's the best!" only with misspellings and > net jargon thrown in there. and also, whenever > anyone seems to waver in their fandom, the older > set usually jumps on them. > > i'm disappointed with moby. it's not getting any > better with area:one, but only worse. > > /djp > > ===== > djpagan > www.geocities.com/projectaristotle > "it is enough." - immanuel kant, his last words > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great > prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ===== "It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it." -Former US Vice President Dan Quayle __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mike e." <donkeymike@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) silly question Date: 11 May 2001 09:00:50 -0700 (PDT) "CONVENIENCE" fees --- dj pagan <djpagan@yahoo.com> wrote: > --- DJ Paul Simpson <techno_gpig@yahoo.com> > wrote: > > how many here would pay 72 bucks plus whatever > > else hidden fees for the tour, if moby had > > invited WEEZER?!?!?!? > > this would make me run screaming away from the > scene. ::smile:: > > oh, come on! you had to expect something from > me! > > all love of course! > > /djp > > > ===== > djpagan > www.geocities.com/projectaristotle > "it is enough." - immanuel kant, his last words > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great > prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ===== "It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it." -Former US Vice President Dan Quayle __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mike e." <donkeymike@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) silly question Date: 11 May 2001 09:02:46 -0700 (PDT) i might pay 72 bones fer R A D I O H E A D.... oh wait, I think i just did... --- DJ Paul Simpson <techno_gpig@yahoo.com> wrote: > how many here would pay 72 bucks plus whatever else > hidden fees for the tour, if moby had invited > WEEZER?!?!?!? > > > just asking ;P > > > ROCK! > DJ PAUL > > ===== > "Computer games don't affect kids; if Pac-man had > affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in > darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening > to repetitive electronic music." > ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > DJ PAUL, host of Chester's Blanket Fort, 89.5 > FM/wpkn.org > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great > prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ===== "It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it." -Former US Vice President Dan Quayle __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Caetano78@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) silly question Date: 11 May 2001 13:37:26 EDT --part1_d5.667962e.282d7d56_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit anyone remember lollapallooza, tibetan freedom concert and other festivals...i know they were fairly recent to some of you but those festivals that pretty much got me exposed to a variety of great bands of the 90s...those festivals were worth the money....i mean, this was a time where i could see anthony kiedis walking around the festival and approach him and have a conversation...those were the times that i could go up to eddie vedder and get an arutograph while people were walking around minding their own businesses...i don't know..i think Moby may have gone too far trying to have create this festival and as soon as the corporate world got involved, perhaps things may have gone downhill...i believe moby's intentions were good, but we live in a pretty messy money making world... PS...moby's the best, i'm moby's number one fan..i would pay anything to see moby!!!! (:o)...love..elie --part1_d5.667962e.282d7d56_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT COLOR="#004080" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Lucida Sans" LANG="0">anyone remember lollapallooza, tibetan freedom concert and other <BR>festivals...i know they were fairly recent to some of you but those festivals <BR>that pretty much got me exposed to a variety of great bands of the <BR>90s...those festivals were worth the money....i mean, this was a time where i <BR>could see anthony kiedis walking around the festival and approach him and <BR>have a conversation...those were the times that i could go up to eddie vedder <BR>and get an arutograph while people were walking around minding their own <BR>businesses...i don't know..i think Moby may have gone too far trying to have <BR>create this festival and as soon as the corporate world got involved, perhaps <BR>things may have gone downhill...i believe moby's intentions were good, but we <BR>live in a pretty messy money making world... <BR> <BR>PS...moby's the best, i'm moby's number one fan..i would pay anything to see <BR>moby!!!! (:o)...love..elie</FONT></HTML> --part1_d5.667962e.282d7d56_boundary-- ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matt Olson" <matt@hollowgen.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) silly question Date: 11 May 2001 11:24:05 -0700 oh jesus! my radiohead tix were only $40.00!!! -Matt On 05/11/2001 at 9:02 AM mike e. wrote: >i might pay 72 bones fer R A D I O H E A D.... oh >wait, I think i just did... -Matt ------ matt@hollowgen.net "I think anybody who doesn't think I'm smart enough to handle the job is underestimating." --G.W. Bush http://www.hollowgen.net http://bootlegs.hollowgen.net - Live Music Trading ------ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bart van Eijck" <j.vaneyck@chello.nl> Subject: (mobility) stop! this is getting way too silly! Date: 11 May 2001 20:33:52 +0200 >PS...moby's the best, i'm moby's number one fan..i would pay anything to see >moby!!!! (:o)...love..elie Why doesn't Moby pay *us*? If I may believe his words, he finds performing just as pleasant as we find attending his concert. So I'll start off with a low bid: Moby may have *me* as an audience member for only $30 (traveling costs and drinks not included of course) That's a bargain, if I say so myself. There are a lot of other artists who'd have to pay double to get me to party to their music. Oh well, now that I'm practicaly giving myself away anyhow, I'll throw in another special offer, for only $15 extra I'll bring a friend! Can you believe that?! Ok, Moby (or management), if you're reading this and you are interested in this bargain, just call 0900-rentafan or email buyme@rent-a-fan.com Bart president of the Fan Rental Comapany inc. ============================================= ---new--- we now also do unofficial devoted fan webpages! ============================================= ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arcya@aol.com Subject: (mobility) OT Coachella & www.iAbolish.com Date: 11 May 2001 14:59:27 EDT First, DJ Paul, who is responsible for that very funny quote about Pac-man? It's brilliant haha... Well, I know it's been almost 2 weeks since Coachella & maybe someone else talked about it on here, but if anyone's curious on how it went, here it is: JANE'S ADDICTION was wonderful; they came on around 9pm. A small parade went through the crowd at the start & they had well-choreographed dancers/actors on stage. The crowd was HUGE & Perry walked through it to sing on top of a light stage (20' from me!), then the whole band performed at the back of the crowd for a while behind the sound guys. Then FLEA joined on the main stage. At the encore, Perry brought an ex-slave from Sudan to tell his story & to promote www.iAbolish.com (which you all have to check out, it's astonishing what's going on...people were in tears. Last Coachella, basically everything was on time so that you could plan seeing half of this band's show & then catching someone else. Not this time; almost everything was very late. That's how I missed RONI SIZE, most of WEEZER (walked through when they sang "Hashpipe"), SMITH&MIGHTY and TRICKY. IGGY POP was very good, too. It blew my mind to see him perform classic Stooges songs. He'd pour beer on the audience, pick his nose & flick the boogers at us. Once he threw the mike & random people got to sing "Lust for Life" which was hilarious. Good thing he didn't try to stage-dive, did you hear about that accident he had when he tried that once & everyone moved out of the way? I think he broke a bone...awful! DOC MARTIN was good & FATBOY did a good job DJing though everything I heard was very mainstream (Madonna's "Music", old Daft Punk). But the most shocking set was by SQUAREPUSHER. He is one insane Canadian! The only freak who could dance to his perverted experimental beats was an acid-tripper in a Robin Hood costume. He would laugh wickedly at the audience & control the fireworks that went off. And he knew all the crackles&farts he was making though they sounded almost random. He's worth seeing, like a musical-performance-comic. Ok, now for the angry rant: Last Coachella was 2 days long so it was fine that things were shut down at midnite. This time they booked Chemical Brothers at 11pm (in the "Insonmiac Tent" - you'd think that was a HINT!) & the Orb at 11:30pm which made me figure heck they'll shut down at 2am, right? WRONG. I went to see the Orb (since the Chemicals were only DJing), but they came on late. 10 minutes into the set they were having technical problems but started "Little Fluffy Clouds" anyway. They threw out free Tees & a stuffed lamb toy (EXACTLY like the one on the cover of that live CD). 20 minutes into the set, the power was shut down, the Orb was PISSED, throwing their headphones & stuff. I'm still in disbelief that I saw what was probably the Orb's shortest set ever... The day had started badly anyway: people were turned back from the entrance line because no bags were allowed, no matter how small. So once we got back to the car & everything was smashed into pockets, we get into the 1 1/2 hour long line only to find in the end that bags were OK, as were water bottles. GRRR! There were police dogs sniffing cars as they came into the parking lot. The whole thing was like a small police state, very uncomfortable. The Area:One Festival better be much happier...if it becomes a yearly thing (or something like that) I recommend GO TO THE FIRST ONE! They seem to get worse or corrupted the longer they go! (not that I've been to many regular festivals...) love&resentment, malfunctiongirl ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AtoMiKSoUL@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) silly question Date: 11 May 2001 14:58:04 EDT >>PS...moby's the best, i'm moby's number one fan..i would pay anything to see moby!!!! (:o)...love..elie>> flame me if you want, but I don't think saying you would pay any amount to see MOBY qualifies you as his number one fan. All it means is that you might have more money than someone else to go see him, not that you have more passion. I love depeche Mode more than anything in the world, but I wouldn't pay $100 to see them in Las Veags. Does that mean I'm less of a fan than some guy who did pay that much money? No. All it means is that I am more selective about where and when I see him. When I see him, I want to be pushed up against the speakers on stage, close enough to see his shoes, not sitting in some chair barely able to see him. *Adrienne ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matt Olson" <matt@hollowgen.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) silly question Date: 11 May 2001 12:08:32 -0700 I'm PRETTY sure that was a joke on Elie's part, Adrienne... :) -Matt >>>PS...moby's the best, i'm moby's number one fan..i would pay anything to= see moby!!!! (:o)...love..elie>> > >flame me if you want, but I don't think saying you would pay any amount to= see MOBY qualifies you as his number one fan. All it means is that you= might have more money than someone else to go see him, not that you have= more passion. I love depeche Mode more than anything in the world, but I= wouldn't pay $100 to see them in Las Veags. Does that mean I'm less of a= fan than some guy who did pay that much money? No. All it means is that I= am more selective about where and when I see him. When I see him, I want= to be pushed up against the speakers on stage, close enough to see his= shoes, not sitting in some chair barely able to see him. > >*Adrienne -Matt ------ matt@hollowgen.net "I think anybody who doesn't think I'm smart enough to handle the job is underestimating." --G.W. Bush http://www.hollowgen.net http://bootlegs.hollowgen.net - Live Music Trading ------ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: _bjorkdoll <slurb@scn.org> Subject: Re: (mobility) silly question Date: 11 May 2001 12:10:11 -0700 (PDT) On Fri, 11 May 2001 AtoMiKSoUL@aol.com wrote: > >>PS...moby's the best, i'm moby's number one fan..i would pay anything > to see moby!!!! (:o)...love..elie>> > > flame me if you want, but I don't think saying you would pay any amount > to see MOBY qualifies you as his number one fan. All it means is that > you might have more money than someone else to go see him, not that you > have more passion. I love depeche Mode more than anything in the world, > but I wouldn't pay $100 to see them in Las Veags. Does that mean I'm > less of a fan than some guy who did pay that much money? No. All it > means is that I am more selective about where and when I see him. When I > see him, I want to be pushed up against the speakers on stage, close > enough to see his shoes, not sitting in some chair barely able to see > him. *yawn* don't get your panties in a bunch... she was _joking_... she was being completely facetious in response to something (i think) dj pagan wrote. oh and here's the flame you asked for: damn touchy aol people! quick question: if _that_ does not "qualify you as his number one fan", what does? rhetorical. we know there's no such thing. :p : sarah : : i like this resonance : : http://myheadphones.org : : it elevates me : ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Caetano78@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) silly question Date: 11 May 2001 15:22:30 EDT --part1_9e.142faabc.282d95f6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit yes..it was a joke..actually i was testing to see which one of you guys would begin a ten paragraph long discussion on what makes a person a fan...i guess i was pretty successful with one of you..come on, a little sense of humor never really killed anyone..at least as far as i know..i don't know..this list has been pretty boring lately..i'm not really getting what i used to get back in the day when this first started..i don't know..maybe its' just time to move on..but i like it here as strange as it may be at times..i'll shut up now..adrienne, i love you..don't take things so seriously sometimes...love..elie(MALE) (:o) --part1_9e.142faabc.282d95f6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT COLOR="#004080" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Lucida Sans" LANG="0">yes..it was a joke..actually i was testing to see which one of you guys would <BR>begin a ten paragraph long discussion on what makes a person a fan...i guess <BR>i was pretty successful with one of you..come on, a little sense of humor <BR>never really killed anyone..at least as far as i know..i don't know..this <BR>list has been pretty boring lately..i'm not really getting what i used to get <BR>back in the day when this first started..i don't know..maybe its' just time <BR>to move on..but i like it here as strange as it may be at times..i'll shut up <BR>now..adrienne, i love you..don't take things so seriously <BR>sometimes...love..elie(MALE) (:o)</FONT></HTML> --part1_9e.142faabc.282d95f6_boundary-- ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Cross" <pcross@precisioneng.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) OT Coachella & www.iAbolish.com Date: 11 May 2001 12:25:46 -0700 Coachella was awesome!!! I never left the Insomniac Tent..The Chems set = was sweet..'it began in africa' and 'galaxy bounce' (they spun) are so = awesome..it looks like the Brothers are going in a new direction on the = next LP.. any how I have a copy of Squarepusher's insane set if NE1 is interested.. P. >>> Arcya@aol.com 05/11/01 11:59AM >>> First, DJ Paul, who is responsible for that very funny quote about = Pac-man? It's brilliant haha... Well, I know it's been almost 2 weeks since Coachella & maybe someone else = talked about it on here, but if anyone's curious on how it went, here it = is: JANE'S ADDICTION was wonderful; they came on around 9pm. A small parade = went through the crowd at the start & they had well-choreographed = dancers/actors on stage. The crowd was HUGE & Perry walked through it to = sing on top of a light stage (20' from me!), then the whole band performed = at the back of the crowd for a while behind the sound guys. Then FLEA = joined on the main stage. At the encore, Perry brought an ex-slave from = Sudan to tell his story & to promote www.iAbolish.com (which you all have = to check out, it's astonishing what's going on...people were in tears. Last Coachella, basically everything was on time so that you could plan = seeing half of this band's show & then catching someone else. Not this = time; almost everything was very late. That's how I missed RONI SIZE, = most of WEEZER (walked through when they sang "Hashpipe"), SMITH&MIGHTY = and TRICKY. IGGY POP was very good, too. It blew my mind to see him perform classic = Stooges songs. He'd pour beer on the audience, pick his nose & flick the = boogers at us. Once he threw the mike & random people got to sing "Lust = for Life" which was hilarious. Good thing he didn't try to stage-dive, = did you hear about that accident he had when he tried that once & everyone = moved out of the way? I think he broke a bone...awful! DOC MARTIN was good & FATBOY did a good job DJing though everything I = heard was very mainstream (Madonna's "Music", old Daft Punk). But the most shocking set was by SQUAREPUSHER. He is one insane Canadian! = The only freak who could dance to his perverted experimental beats was an = acid-tripper in a Robin Hood costume. He would laugh wickedly at the = audience & control the fireworks that went off. And he knew all the = crackles&farts he was making though they sounded almost random. He's = worth seeing, like a musical-performance-comic. Ok, now for the angry rant: Last Coachella was 2 days long so it was fine = that things were shut down at midnite. This time they booked Chemical = Brothers at 11pm (in the "Insonmiac Tent" - you'd think that was a HINT!) = & the Orb at 11:30pm which made me figure heck they'll shut down at 2am, = right? WRONG. I went to see the Orb (since the Chemicals were only = DJing), but they came on late. 10 minutes into the set they were having = technical problems but started "Little Fluffy Clouds" anyway. They threw = out free Tees & a stuffed lamb toy (EXACTLY like the one on the cover of = that live CD). 20 minutes into the set, the power was shut down, the Orb = was PISSED, throwing their headphones & stuff. I'm still in disbelief = that I saw what was probably the Orb's shortest set ever... The day had started badly anyway: people were turned back from the = entrance line because no bags were allowed, no matter how small. So once = we got back to the car & everything was smashed into pockets, we get into = the 1 1/2 hour long line only to find in the end that bags were OK, as = were water bottles. GRRR! There were police dogs sniffing cars as they = came into the parking lot. The whole thing was like a small police state, = very uncomfortable. The Area:One Festival better be much happier...if it becomes a yearly = thing (or something like that) I recommend GO TO THE FIRST ONE! They seem = to get worse or corrupted the longer they go! (not that I've been to many = regular festivals...) love&resentment, malfunctiongirl ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com=20 with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AtoMiKSoUL@aol.com Subject: (mobility) apology Date: 11 May 2001 16:42:03 EDT I honestly did not mean to attack elie, I realize now it was a joking comment. But there are people out there who view liking a band or artist as a competition to see who can buy the most stuff, who can see them the most times, etc. Sorry for the misunderstanding. *Adrienne ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dj pagan <djpagan@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) apology Date: 11 May 2001 14:40:38 -0700 (PDT) --- AtoMiKSoUL@aol.com wrote: > I honestly did not mean to attack elie, I > realize now it was a joking comment. But there > are people out there who view liking a band or > artist as a competition to see who can buy the > most stuff, who can see them the most times, > etc. Sorry for the misunderstanding. i think there is something to be said for people who have a more extensive collection (though mp3 makes this kind of null) and see him more and more being able to be better fans. it's not they've fed the capitalist machine, but understanding something completely and correctly cannot be done upon first examination, at least from a criticism perspective. to hold this over other fans is childish and only shows how material someone is. however, if you never heard moby's earlier stuff, how can you appreciate the later stuff, or the many directions that he has gone? a lot of old time fans (though not all) are becoming disillusioned with moby. as much as i would like to say that we are simply living in an elitist bubble, i don't think we are. it's not the music that's bad (i think play, all 200 versions of it, is wonderful), but the marketing, the promotion, the 200 versions, the more and more extensive, elaborate, and expensive touring seems to go against a lot of his prior ideals. i think it's awfully noble and non-confrontational of him to say that he just wants to make the record company happy, but there comes a point where it's not simply being done to pay the bills. i'm trying to remain objective. i'm trying to be a good fan. but this whole area:one fiasco is just insane. it's the straw that is slowly breaking my back, and i can't take it. i'm still a fan, but my passion is coming out of a five year fury of love for the man, his music, and his ideals. i almost feel like i'm naive to have started. /djp ===== djpagan www.geocities.com/projectaristotle "it is enough." - immanuel kant, his last words __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Supreme Goddess" <smlmammal@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) silly question Date: 11 May 2001 15:58:10 -0600 *reluctantly raises hand* Houw could I POSSIBLY miss those two? Weezer was here earlier this year, sold out show...got my tix too late. durn. -tina >From: DJ Paul Simpson <techno_gpig@yahoo.com> >Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >To: mobility@xmission.com >Subject: (mobility) silly question >Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 04:19:12 -0700 (PDT) > >how many here would pay 72 bucks plus whatever else >hidden fees for the tour, if moby had invited >WEEZER?!?!?!? > > >just asking ;P > > >ROCK! >DJ PAUL > >===== >"Computer games don't affect kids; if Pac-man had affected us as kids, we'd >all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening >to repetitive electronic music." >ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >DJ PAUL, host of Chester's Blanket Fort, 89.5 FM/wpkn.org > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices >http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > >------------- >To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com >with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJ Paul Simpson <techno_gpig@yahoo.com> Subject: (mobility) pacman quote Date: 11 May 2001 15:51:16 -0700 (PDT) hehe..... dunno, my pal jon forwarded it to me, and i liked it, so i sigged it! ROCK! DJ PAUL ===== "Computer games don't affect kids; if Pac-man had affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DJ PAUL, host of Chester's Blanket Fort, 89.5 FM/wpkn.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "nIkKi mYeRs" <groovgrrl77@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) just in case anyone cares... Date: 11 May 2001 20:06:52 -0400 i agree with everybody that ticket sales were just too much. i was all set to drive halfway across new york state or all the way to ma to see moby but i have no one to go with me cause neither me nor my friends can afford the tickets. i love moby and paul okenfold but to spend all that plus gas food and a hotel for the night is just out of my reach. its no wonder why the festival isn't even being promoted in my area, i only found out about it while standing in line at a club from a guy selling glow sticks, if anything it should have been an outdoor festival with cheaper tickets and more dates in various cities, it just would have given fans the freedom to dance and move and enjoy summer. but thats just me so, thank you for listening peace out nIkKi _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MOBYGIRL1@aol.com Subject: (mobility) I'm on fire Date: 11 May 2001 20:10:49 EDT --part1_54.145bb132.282dd989_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I found this clip on WLIRs site. Go to www.wlir.com ,click on 'the LIR-kives and scroll down to Moby. -kelly --part1_54.145bb132.282dd989_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT COLOR="#0080c0" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SCRIPT" FACE="Bradley Hand ITC" LANG="0">I found this clip on WLIRs site. Go to www.wlir.com ,click on 'the LIR-kives <BR>and scroll down to Moby. -kelly</FONT></HTML> --part1_54.145bb132.282dd989_boundary-- ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "z | 2 | 4 | 2 |" <zig242@hotmail.com> Subject: (mobility) ................ Date: 11 May 2001 17:51:06 -0700 Police reportedly discovered Moby naked on the roof of his New York home. Get the scoop here. http://www.rocknews.com/wpbz/yester.htm Natural Blues Apparently, Moby wasn't kidding when he recently posted messages about strolling around naked and wishing for a tropical pool on his roof. Police officers reportedly were summoned to Moby's New York pad on a noise complaint and discovered the techno auteur and some friends lounging in the buff on the roof in a makeshift sauna. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "maMLUka" <natali_z@netvision.net.il> Subject: (mobility) A dxball question Date: 12 May 2001 13:01:51 +0200 Did anyone notice that DXball musix sounds very like the start of baracuda Can some1 tell me whats the store behind this or did they just rip it ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "crowes3" <crowes3@email.msn.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Taping Date: 12 May 2001 12:22:49 -0700 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C0DADE.423A8460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! I'm going to the Chicago show as well. I'm soooo happy! It would = be cool to meet other Mobyites from Chicago. I don't know about taping = but if there's a way...I would not want to cross Moby, you know? Anne ----- Original Message -----=20 From: RAARAIR23@aol.com=20 To: mobility@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 9:35 PM Subject: (mobility) Taping Has anyone, or does anyone intend to tape a moby show?? I know there = isn't=20 an open taping policy, but you could stealth it. I'm planning on = taping the=20 chicago show.=20 peace=20 cal=20 http://go.to/CalsBootlegs=20 ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C0DADE.423A8460 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2919.6307" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi! I'm going to the Chicago show = as=20 well. I'm soooo happy! It would be cool to meet other = Mobyites from=20 Chicago. I don't know about taping but if there's a way...I would = not want=20 to cross Moby, you know? Anne</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A href=3D"mailto:RAARAIR23@aol.com"=20 title=3DRAARAIR23@aol.com>RAARAIR23@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:mobility@lists.xmission.com"=20 title=3Dmobility@lists.xmission.com>mobility@lists.xmission.com</A> = </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 05, 2001 = 9:35=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> (mobility) = Taping</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT color=3D#ff8000=20 face=3D"Comic Sans MS" lang=3D0 size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT"><B>Has = anyone, or does=20 anyone intend to tape a moby show?? I know there isn't <BR>an = open=20 taping policy, but you could stealth it. I'm planning on taping = the=20 <BR>chicago show. <BR><BR>peace <BR>cal <BR><BR><A=20 = href=3D"http://go.to/CalsBootlegs">http://go.to/CalsBootlegs</A></B></FON= T>=20 </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C0DADE.423A8460-- ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "crowes3" <crowes3@email.msn.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) stop! this is getting way too silly! Date: 12 May 2001 12:25:47 -0700 Bart, you are very inexpensive. Can I rent you to watch me practice ballet and tell me what a lovely vision I am? Anne > > low bid: Moby may have *me* as an audience member for only $30 (traveling > costs and drinks not included of course) That's a bargain, if I say so > myself. > > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. > ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "crowes3" <crowes3@email.msn.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) silly question Date: 12 May 2001 12:34:13 -0700 I am really happy to have Area:One tickets. I plan to chill and have the best time. Everytime I hear Moby now I think "yeah, I will see him soon!" I paid $53.00 per ticket. Oh well. Now, I look at Madonna tickets-$45.00-$250.00-you can bet the $45.00 tix are a million miles away. Too much? Yeah. Oh well. As Paul(?) said, she can pay me to watch her perform! Anne ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 4:19 AM > how many here would pay 72 bucks plus whatever else > hidden fees for the tour, if moby had invited > WEEZER?!?!?!? > > > just asking ;P > > > ROCK! > DJ PAUL > > ===== > "Computer games don't affect kids; if Pac-man had affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." > ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > DJ PAUL, host of Chester's Blanket Fort, 89.5 FM/wpkn.org > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. > ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "crowes3" <crowes3@email.msn.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) just in case anyone cares... Date: 12 May 2001 12:39:04 -0700 Why do you think Moby is getting worse? The only thing certain in this world is change. Anne ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 8:35 AM > --- Insrtbrain@aol.com wrote: > > Why do you want to be flamed? Maybe some > > people think you are right. > > i'm just used to fans on this list saying things > like, "i would pay any amount of money to see > moby! he's the best!" only with misspellings and > net jargon thrown in there. and also, whenever > anyone seems to waver in their fandom, the older > set usually jumps on them. > > i'm disappointed with moby. it's not getting any > better with area:one, but only worse. > > /djp > > ===== > djpagan > www.geocities.com/projectaristotle > "it is enough." - immanuel kant, his last words > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. > ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "crowes3" <crowes3@email.msn.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) just in case anyone cares... Date: 12 May 2001 12:41:15 -0700 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0087_01C0DAE0.D560E340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Funny, Moby appears in all sorts of celebrity party pix now too. Anne ----- Original Message -----=20 Interesting... I recently referred to Moby as a VH1/MTV whore.... I = still=20 love and adore the man for his music.. but every damn VH1 or MTV = special has=20 Moby in it.... I remember laughing at the irony of him being = interviewed for=20 the Top 40 Greatest Hair Bands..=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0087_01C0DAE0.D560E340 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2919.6307" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Funny, Moby appears in all sorts of = celebrity party=20 pix now too. Anne</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- = </DIV><FONT=20 face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D2>Interesting... I recently = referred to Moby=20 as a VH1/MTV whore.... I still <BR>love and adore the man for his = music.. but=20 every damn VH1 or MTV special has <BR>Moby in it.... I remember = laughing=20 at the irony of him being interviewed for <BR>the Top 40 Greatest Hair = Bands..</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0087_01C0DAE0.D560E340-- ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "crowes3" <crowes3@email.msn.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) just in case anyone cares... Date: 12 May 2001 12:46:45 -0700 I am dancing no matter what! In Chicago, we got seats 29 rows back but if I have to move somewhere else to dance, I will. I was almost arrested (!) in St. Louis for getting out of my seat and moving to the floor at a Tom Petty show. I swear, they took me to a little room with cops and stuff and I tried to tell them I'd be good but they were really mean. My husband saved me. At least ther's a lawn a million miles away...Anne ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 12:41 PM > --- AtoMiKSoUL@aol.com wrote: > > I ended up not buying tix, because I refuse to > > pay $72 PLUS an $8 handling fee to sit my ass > > in a chair and not be able to dance to all > > these amazing performers> > > ===== > djpagan > www.geocities.com/projectaristotle > "it is enough." - immanuel kant, his last words > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. > ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "crowes3" <crowes3@email.msn.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) just in case anyone cares.. Date: 12 May 2001 12:50:38 -0700 Indeed, a small venue is highly preferable. I saw Moby at the Aragon in Chicago and it was beautiful. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 9:34 PM > > I guess I would rather see Moby in a small club or venu, because the vibe is so much more palpable and positive. But that's just my opinion. > > *Adrienne > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. > ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Caetano78@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) just in case anyone cares... Date: 12 May 2001 13:51:19 EDT --part1_a8.1551dc5e.282ed217_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit the truth of the matter is that ticketmaster is a money grubbing bureacracy... and so is the record industry.. and so are many musicians... there is also another truth... corporations like Ticketmaster and the record idustry and whoever else is involved in putting concerts together charger a fortune for tickets because they know we, the consumers and fans will pay for them..i'm not saying all of us will, but enough to sell out shows...look at people like Bruce and even Madonna...they can sell out 10 straight nights at madison square garden in NYC for tickets ranging from 45-250..just an example...so i think we have us to thank also for these prices being so high...i will also include myself in this pool...love..elie --part1_a8.1551dc5e.282ed217_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT COLOR="#004080" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Lucida Sans" LANG="0">the truth of the matter is that ticketmaster is a money grubbing bureacracy... <BR>and so is the record industry.. <BR>and so are many musicians... <BR>there is also another truth... <BR>corporations like Ticketmaster and the record idustry and whoever else is <BR>involved in putting concerts together charger a fortune for tickets because <BR>they know we, the consumers and fans will pay for them..i'm not saying all of <BR>us will, but enough to sell out shows...look at people like Bruce and even <BR>Madonna...they can sell out 10 straight nights at madison square garden in <BR>NYC for tickets ranging from 45-250..just an example...so i think we have us <BR>to thank also for these prices being so high...i will also include myself in <BR>this pool...love..elie</FONT></HTML> --part1_a8.1551dc5e.282ed217_boundary-- ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AtoMiKSoUL@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) just in case anyone cares... Date: 12 May 2001 15:02:43 EDT In a message dated 5/12/01 1:52:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Caetano78@aol.com writes: << corporations like Ticketmaster and the record idustry and whoever else is involved in putting concerts together charger a fortune for tickets because they know we, the consumers and fans will pay for them..i'm not saying all of us will, but enough to sell out shows...look at people like Bruce and even Madonna...they can sell out 10 straight nights at madison square garden in NYC for tickets ranging from 45-250..just an example... >> you're right. They charge those prices because they know people will pay. Madonna is not going to lower the price of her tickets on her own--we will. If we grumble about having tp pay such high prices, than we sould do something. It may seem radical, but the only way I could see this getting accomplished is through a boycott of bands and artists who charge insanely high prices. Anyone remember the $300 tix for a Rolling Stones show? Honestly, do those 60-year-olds need all that money? No, but tons of people paid anyway. If we want lower prices, we'll have to work for it ourselves. *Adrienne ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike A7" <mikea7@provide.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) just in case anyone cares... Date: 12 May 2001 21:24:03 -0400 AtoMiKSoUL@aol.com wrote: > you're right. They charge those prices because they know people will pay. > Madonna is not going to lower the price of her tickets on her own--we will. Frankly Madonna couldn't pay ME 45-250 per night, nor 250,000 to sit through 2 hours of her wailing like a banshee without the studio tricks to show she has a pathetically weak voice live. Plus "Music" (if you can call it that) was one of the biggest SHIT CD's I've seen released in ages. God is that CD just shit. MikeA ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: IndieRockerGuy@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Madonna and Moby??? Date: 12 May 2001 23:54:56 EDT Hey all, I know this happened a while ago, but an article ran that Moby was potentially supposed to mix on Madonna's then new album Music but didn't for some other reasons. Does any know what those reasons were? (remember, his not yours, we all know what your reasons probably are (; ) Thanx. Stage out, ~Alex ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Caetano78@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Madonna and Moby??? Date: 13 May 2001 01:35:38 EDT --part1_f5.a02edeb.282f772a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit because he was focusing on his own music...he has turned down a number of opportunities to produce other group's 'albums because of that.. and also, i believe that the only way Moby would have produced the album was if madonna allowed him to perform anal on her...that didn't go very well with the post-SEX matronly madonna...(:o)..here i go again on a tangent!! love..elie --part1_f5.a02edeb.282f772a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT COLOR="#004080" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Lucida Sans" LANG="0">because he was focusing on his own music...he has turned down a number of <BR>opportunities to produce other group's 'albums because of that.. <BR>and also, i believe that the only way Moby would have produced the album was <BR>if madonna allowed him to perform anal on her...that didn't go very well with <BR>the post-SEX matronly madonna...(:o)..here i go again on a tangent!! <BR>love..elie</FONT></HTML> --part1_f5.a02edeb.282f772a_boundary-- ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Rader" <DocShasta@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: (mobility) apology Date: 13 May 2001 02:25:55 -0700 > i'm still a fan, but my passion is coming out > of a five year fury of love for the man, his > music, and his ideals. i almost feel like i'm > naive to have started. Wow that last sentence says it all. I have no issues with Moby and his sudden 'changes'. I just finished reading the Moby biography Replay (by Martin James.. great read!! buy it now) and I feel I understand his view on things a bit more. It's not that I'm making excuses or that I need to make excuses.. it's just him living his life as a musician. None of us really know how we would act if we had the very unique job of being a paid entertainer. I wonder why no one really calls actors sell outs when they start getting paid 20 million a movie. Anyway I feel reading his daily updates on moby-online can help you realize that he isn't corrupt. He still sounds like the little idiot evil ninja moby that I loved 8 years ago when I bought Move. P.S. I am sad that Area One is so expensive because I wanted to invite my friends to go but there is no way they would pay that much. I would have to believe that Moby didn't have final say on the price of tickets (especially since he is not the only person behind the festival.. "AREA: ONE is a joint venture produced by Moby; his American managers Marci Weber and Barry Taylor; Vince Bannon and SFX") It must have been Marci Weber, Barry Taylor, Vince Bannon, and SFX who are the money grubbers who made the prices so absurdly high! ;) ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Caetano78@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) apology Date: 13 May 2001 11:18:01 EDT --part1_bc.1454b0f0.282fffa9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/13/2001 5:26:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, DocShasta@yahoo.com writes: > I > would have to believe that Moby didn't have final say on the price of > tickets (especially since he is not the only person behind the > festival.. "AREA: ONE is a joint venture produced by Moby; his > American managers Marci Weber and Barry Taylor; Vince Bannon and SFX") > > It must have been Marci Weber, Barry Taylor, Vince Bannon, and SFX who > are the money grubbers who made the prices so absurdly high! ;) > > my point exactly..add ticketmaster to the whole mess, you have yourself a very expensive festival...i do also enjoy moby's posts on his page....i recall a question one of his fans asked him: it was something to the extent of wanting to go to his apartment and meet him for lunch or something and he explained that his managers did not want him to give out his adress or his wherabouts because of fear that someone may stalk him...i totally agree..how many of us would randomly give out our adress to someone in our everyday lives without getting to know that person first...let me stop now..love..elie --part1_bc.1454b0f0.282fffa9_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT COLOR="#004080" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Lucida Sans" LANG="0">In a message dated 5/13/2001 5:26:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, <BR>DocShasta@yahoo.com writes: <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I <BR>would have to believe that Moby didn't have final say on the price of <BR>tickets (especially since he is not the only person behind the <BR>festival.. "AREA: ONE is a joint venture produced by Moby; his <BR>American managers Marci Weber and Barry Taylor; Vince Bannon and SFX") <BR> <BR>It must have been Marci Weber, Barry Taylor, Vince Bannon, and SFX who <BR>are the money grubbers who made the prices so absurdly high! ;) <BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#004080" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Lucida Sans" LANG="0"> <BR>my point exactly..add ticketmaster to the whole mess, you have yourself a <BR>very expensive festival...i do also enjoy moby's posts on his page....i <BR>recall a question one of his fans asked him: it was something to the extent <BR>of wanting to go to his apartment and meet him for lunch or something and he <BR>explained that his managers did not want him to give out his adress or his <BR>wherabouts because of fear that someone may stalk him...i totally agree..how <BR>many of us would randomly give out our adress to someone in our everyday <BR>lives without getting to know that person first...let me stop now..love..elie</FONT></HTML> --part1_bc.1454b0f0.282fffa9_boundary-- ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: agent 305 <skecichaseskittiesinthesnow@yahoo.com> Subject: (mobility) who skeci may be Date: 13 May 2001 11:47:34 -0700 (PDT) name: skeci Age: unknown (i dont like to remeber how old i am) Collection: (none of this is really mine (im poor) but i share with my fiance)natural blues,early underground,the collected b-sides,run on,play, why does my heart feel so bad plus a bunch of other stuff that weve bought,copied, and ended up having to sell for a second or third time (lots of times you lend stuff out and have to by it like sixty times, or your car gets stolen:) how much of a fan: well let's see I'm definately not well versed enough to say i'm the biggest fan ever or anything, I'm actually kinda new to moby (or his stuff is new to me) (within the last year and a half kinda new) anyway all i know is i really dig his music the little i actually know and ive played some of these cds so often i think that im getting on some peoples nerves (who cares i probably hate them anyway) other artists: aphex twin,radiohead,pj harvey,johnny cash,roy orbison (its the sunglasses thats all i swear!!!), bratmobile,guitar wolf,rolling stones of course,minor threat,fugazi,ani defranco,tori amos (i hate to admit those) killing for freedom,ben folds five,sixteen deluxe,looper,the sundays(only on sundays)teen idles,kraftwerk,nofx,outkast,i dont know who the artist is but the people or person who did the run lola run soundtrack whoever you are i love you !!!!:)babboon,rem,arda,frank zappa, nick cave and the bad seeds,the shangrilas,dag nasty, the ghoulies,charles bukowski(they asked for artist not necessarily musician, besides hes a dirty old man who drinks alot how could you not love him)basically a bunch of stuff that at least 1 band for everyperson someone wonders why. i dont think i could even try to put down every artist i like. other interesting stuff: trying to start 3 bands, paint,learn how to play drums (with no set mind you) write stuff(poetry lyrics crap)somehow not go through to much culture shock in south carolina (moved from ohio) drink coffe eat plenty of candy,chase many kittiesin the snow (which is hard seeming as how there isnt any down here) take much ginseng study much philosophy (without going insane)and breathe all while working a full time job :)ive said enough now i will shut up __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" <power_hymn@hotmail.com> Subject: (mobility) Big Time Date: 14 May 2001 15:47:41 I'm proud of Moby for taking his career to the next level. Here's how I look at it: There's good music, and bad music. Everybody has a different opinion on which is which, and that's good. In my opinion, 90% or more of sponsored music is bad. By sponsored, I mean music that has major radio play, MTV backing, and exposure to the general public, not just music fans. Moby has always had a lot to say. At one point Moby said that his music is just a launching point for his ideals. At other times he has said that his music and ideas are separate and should not affect each other. Whether you've latched onto his intellectual experimentation* or not, you can't deny that your primary reason for being here is his music. Music is Moby's career, and his life. When he was younger, his measure of success was spreading his ideas to help build a world utopia, the carrier of his message being music. Sounds far-fetched, doesn't it? Everybody wants to make a difference and change the world into a better place. As Moby's grown up, I think he's realized that one person can only do a certain amount, and one person can only succeed where they are capable. Moby's personality is not a politician, so he can't hope to covert America to vegetarianism, or to stop using cars. That's like trying to stop the waves in the ocean with your hands. Instead, he's making a difference in area that is very much his department: music. As I wrote earlier, 90% of popular music is terrible, uninspired garbage that is better described as 'product' than 'music', in my opinion. Moby's campaign to become a famous and popular musician is seen by many to be a contradiction of everything Moby stands for. But what, exactly, does Moby stand for? As I stated before, above all else, Moby stands for music. In order to bring not only his music, bit it's influence*, to a higher level, Moby needed to become well-known and needed to increase his fan base. The fact that Moby isn't an idealistic crusader anymore shows that he's matured, and that he realizes that refusing to allow his music in car ads only massages his own ego and doesn't help the environment any more than staying on the sidewalk and off the grass. Back in the early 90's with Go, it was a nice gesture, but futile. Moby's grown up and realized that the place he can make a difference in people's lives is through music. He can make people happy, comfortable, or exhilarated. He can show people that music can become more than the sum of it's advertising. It doesn't have to be disposable, it doesn't have to be plastic, and it doesn't have to fit the advertising mold of "it sold once, copy it and sell it again." If Moby allows V2 to make 200* versions of Play, but with V2's help gets his music into people's ears, I'd say that's quite a victory. I'd say it's a good thing. *1. When I refer to Moby's intellectual experimentation, I'm looking at how he's frequently changed his mind, taken back statements, reduced the extremeness of a viewpoint, or even just lied jokingly to the press. Moby has never switched ideals, he's been mixing and matching them all along. If you'll allow me an analogy, it's hard to point and say he sold out when he's been trading his stocks in all along. *2. By Moby's influence, I'm talking about not only musical, but business influence. Moby has proven an unusual marketing technique, and he's proven that non-niche music is growing. More and more these days I see music that cannot fit into a category. This is good news for listeners, bad news for music companies. Instead of packaging Pearl Jam as Creed as Three Doors Down, or Backstreet Boys as N'Sync as O-Town, as more time passes they'll have to find new and original acts to keep to public interested. As attention spans grow shorter, it takes more to stick out and be noticed. Moby is not solely responsible for this emerging trend, but he has certainly raised the bar one more notch. *3. For those of you angered by the multiple versions of Play, cut it out. Nobody is asking you to buy the album twice. If you feel the compulsion to own every version or every song, you need to stop and take a deep breath. If you must have the B-sides, then sell your old copy and buy the new one. If you resent to $10 or so you lost in the whole trading process, don't buy it. If you really love that music so much that you must have the goodies and extras, $10 or $15 more should make no difference to you. It's just a choice, an option. It's really that simple. Thanks for following me this far. Steve _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJTripp2@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Big Time Date: 14 May 2001 13:58:14 EDT GOOD JOB STEVE!!!!! i agree dj tripp ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Snoryder78@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Big Time Date: 14 May 2001 14:20:06 EDT --part1_65.145b4389.28317bd6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree too, thanks for putting things in a different light. peace Ian --part1_65.145b4389.28317bd6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>I agree too, thanks for putting things in a different light. <BR>peace <BR>Ian</FONT></HTML> --part1_65.145b4389.28317bd6_boundary-- ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Michael Bourke <cbourke1@bigred.unl.edu> Subject: (mobility) Re: ftp Date: 14 May 2001 15:52:28 -0500 > The Mobility ftp is down, could you check it? Thanks. > > Bart I checked and the ftp is working fine, but just in case anyone missed it, there is a NEW IP address: 129.93.206.31 Chris ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Snoryder78@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: ftp Date: 15 May 2001 04:27:10 EDT --part1_b9.e316f15.2832425e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cool ya , i checked the last one earlier and it was down I couldn't hook this one either In a message dated 5/14/01 3:56:42 PM Central Daylight Time, cbourke1@bigred.unl.edu writes: > 129.93.206.31 > --part1_b9.e316f15.2832425e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>cool ya , i checked the last one earlier and it was down I couldn't hook this <BR>one either <BR> <BR>In a message dated 5/14/01 3:56:42 PM Central Daylight Time, <BR>cbourke1@bigred.unl.edu writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">129.93.206.31 <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR></FONT></HTML> --part1_b9.e316f15.2832425e_boundary-- ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: martinjames <martin@martinjames.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: (mobility) just in case anyone cares... Date: 15 May 2001 11:15:02 +0100 many moons ago, where I were little more than a spec of a fourteen year old I went to see The Clash at The Rainbow in London. There were seats... until the third song, by which time they had all been demolished. What a gig! A year or so later I went to the same venue to see Siouxsie and the Banshees. Same chairs, same result. Another amazing gig. Now, in both cases the smashed chairs ended up being thrown towards the stage. Not at the band, but in their direction. It was a respect thing. Just like spitting. Anyway, given Moby's punk sensibilities, and in honor of Animal Rights, why don't you all do the same. Makes moshing more fun and the scars will be conversation openers for years to come. "How did you get that scar on your face?" "Smashing up chairs at a Moby gig!" OK, so the reality will be more like: "Hey, how did you get your piles?" "From sitting on an uncomfortable chair at a Moby gig." Which story would you all prefer? Martin (in an anarchic mood) on 12/5/01 20:46, crowes3 at crowes3@email.msn.com wrote: > I am dancing no matter what! In Chicago, we got seats 29 rows back but if I > have to move somewhere else to dance, I will. I was almost arrested (!) in > St. Louis for getting out of my seat and moving to the floor at a Tom Petty > show. I swear, they took me to a little room with cops and stuff and I > tried to tell them I'd be good but they were really mean. My husband saved > me. At least ther's a lawn a million miles away...Anne > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "dj pagan" <djpagan@yahoo.com> > To: <mobility@lists.xmission.com> > Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 12:41 PM > Subject: Re: (mobility) just in case anyone cares... > > >> --- AtoMiKSoUL@aol.com wrote: >>> I ended up not buying tix, because I refuse to >>> pay $72 PLUS an $8 handling fee to sit my ass >>> in a chair and not be able to dance to all >>> these amazing performers> > >> ===== >> djpagan >> www.geocities.com/projectaristotle >> "it is enough." - immanuel kant, his last words >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices >> http://auctions.yahoo.com/ >> >> ------------- >> To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com >> with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. >> > > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: martinjames <martin@martinjames.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: (mobility) apology Date: 15 May 2001 11:15:02 +0100 Wow, thanks for the plug Shaun. Was wondering if anyone had read the book yet. Glad you enjoyed it. Re A1 prices. It is insanely expensive to put a tour like this on the road. Thats why they never happen in Europe. But I would say that if you want to see Moby at his best, then see him at a show where things are more controlled in his favour. ie a headline gig with one support, so everyone has time to soundcheck! OK so he was amazing at Glastonbury, but A1 can hardly compare to that festival. I think A1 is an interesting idea based loosely on Ian Astbury's Gathering of the Tribes and Perry Farell's Lollapalooza. In many ways it is an idea fuelled by ego (to be able to steer this relentless machine around the States and all under your name), but also from passion (to be able to play with a load of bands/ DJs who you admire on the same bill). I don't think any tour, no matter how small or large, is fuelled by greed. Its far easier and cheaper to sit at home letting your tracks get licensed out (oh shit, not that debate again!). For my money Coechella looked better though. Be sure to check out Rinosorose though. House music made with guitars as the main sound. Like Spiritualized with a four to the floor beat. V. cool. Laters Martin on 13/5/01 10:25, Shaun Rader at DocShasta@yahoo.com wrote: I just finished reading the Moby biography > Replay (by Martin James.. great read!! buy it now) and I feel I > understand his view on things a bit more. > ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" <power_hymn@hotmail.com> Subject: (mobility) Replay Biography Date: 15 May 2001 13:44:21 >>>>From: martinjames <martin@martinjames.demon.co.uk> Wow, thanks for the plug Shaun. Was wondering if anyone had read the book yet. Glad you enjoyed it.<<<< I enjoyed the book, too, Martin. I thought you did a good job of highlighting both the positive and negative aspects of Moby's outspokenness, and your closing chapter felt like an opening chapter, which inspires optismism. The poduction of the book was excellent, it was very attractive and the dull matte (is that the right name for non-glossy?) surface was nice. I learned a lot about Moby's younger years that I didn't know before. It was also nice to learn what the whys behind the messages Moby repeated in interview after interview. A couple of minor beefs. You put "The Blue Light Of The Underwater Song", which should have been Underwater Sun. Also, you wrote that the John Spencer Blues Explosion mix of Into The Blue was the only worthwhile one. Into The Blue #2 is my favorite Moby CD, mainly the Simple & Spiritual mixes. If you haven't, give them a listen. I think they're among Moby's very best. Steve _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" <power_hymn@hotmail.com> Subject: (mobility) Moby at NYC Sigur Ros concert Date: 15 May 2001 14:06:50 Sigur Ros - Adding another string to their bow GEYSERS! METALLICA drummer LARS ULRICH has written to Icelandic band SIGUR ROS to thank them for inspiring his work on METALLICA's new album, after going to see them at a gig in SAN FRANCISCO. Ulrich wrote the band a note saying: "Thank you, thank you, thank you! We are in the studio right now struggling to make some sort of album. I'm going to go back after this completely inspired." Metallica began work on their new album at a secret studio location in San Francisco with producer Bob Rock on April 23. Ulrich described the sessions in his studio diary as more adventurous and experimental, adding that they'd kicked off the recording session with "sick, ugly new fucked-up jams". Joining Ulrich in the audience at Sigur Ros' gig at San Francisco Fillmore, part of a brief sold-out US jaunt which began at Coachella Festival, were 'X-Files' actress Gillian Anderson, who told the band she wanted to come to the UK to see them support Radiohead at Oxford South Park on July 7, and the Kronos Quartet. Celebrity guests at their New York Angel Orensanz Center show, which sold out within 10 minutes of going on sale, included David Bowie, Moby and Laurie Anderson. Sigur Ros, whose album 'Agaetis Byrjun' is released in the US tomorrow (May 15), returned to their own studio - a converted swimming pool just outside Reykjavik - to continue work on its long-awaited follow-up. They are expected to tour Japan later this year, with further US dates expected around October. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: martinjames <martin@martinjames.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: (mobility) Replay Biography Date: 15 May 2001 18:55:35 +0100 Thanks for the feedback Steve. Strangely enough I actually picked up the book the other day (its good to re-read a few months later to get a different perspective) and noticed that mix up between Sun and Song. I must have been tired when I wrote/ proofed it, although my sub-ed should have picked it up too. As with all of my comments about Moby's music that summary of 'Into the Blue' was simply my point of view. The song in its original form remains, to this day, my favorite Moby track. The remixes just didn't live up to the original for me. But I will listen to them again, especially the Simple and Spiritual Mixes, which I haven't listened closely to for pure pleasure for sometime now. Listening to the tracks when I was writing the book can't really count as pleasure (although it was enjoyable). You tend to listen to things with a critical distance when its to do with 'work'. Thanks again Martin > > A couple of minor beefs. You put "The Blue Light Of The Underwater Song", > which should have been Underwater Sun. Also, you wrote that the John Spencer > Blues Explosion mix of Into The Blue was the only worthwhile one. Into The > Blue #2 is my favorite Moby CD, mainly the Simple & Spiritual mixes. If you > haven't, give them a listen. I think they're among Moby's very best. > > Steve > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Guy" <gridge@blazenet.net> Subject: (mobility) Off Subject Date: 15 May 2001 23:12:37 -0400 Did anyone else pick up the Green Album from Weezer today? Beautiful... Just beautiful. Guy ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric <stale8975@excite.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Off Subject Date: 16 May 2001 04:15:40 -0700 (PDT) Yeah!! It's an amazing album! Buuuuuutttt..... The trees told me to get five more for karma reasons. So now I have five of them. I think I am going to give the remaining four to the unfortunate. EricTheRed On Tue, 15 May 2001 23:12:37 -0400, mobility@lists.xmission.com wrote: > Did anyone else pick up the Green Album from Weezer today? Beautiful... > Just beautiful. > > Guy _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dj pagan <djpagan@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) just in case anyone cares... Date: 16 May 2001 06:39:18 -0700 (PDT) --- crowes3 <crowes3@email.msn.com> wrote: > Why do you think Moby is getting worse? The > only thing certain in this world is change. it's the whole marketing scheme that's been going on. it's getting more and more elaborate, more and more expensive. more and more we are seeing that many people can't see moby anymore unless they have $80 to go to the concert. it's sad. /djp ===== djpagan www.geocities.com/projectaristotle "it is enough." - immanuel kant, his last words __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Caetano78@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Off Subject Date: 16 May 2001 10:24:31 EDT --part1_df.14b33bd2.2833e79f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hey Eric, i would be more than happy to take one..(:o)....elie --part1_df.14b33bd2.2833e79f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT COLOR="#004080" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Lucida Sans" LANG="0">hey Eric, i would be more than happy to take one..(:o)....elie</FONT></HTML> --part1_df.14b33bd2.2833e79f_boundary-- ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Caviness <bigwigenterprises@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Off Subject Date: 16 May 2001 07:28:36 -0700 (PDT) --- Eric <stale8975@excite.com> wrote: > Yeah!! It's an amazing album! Buuuuuutttt..... The > trees told me to get five more for karma reasons. So now I > have five of them. I think I am going to give the > remaining four to the unfortunate. > My car needs a new transmission, which will cost more than the car is worth, and I really don't have money for either the repairs or to get a new one.... does that make me unfortunate enough to get a weezer cd? ===== Bradley S. Caviness, Bigwig Bigwig Enterprises http://www.bigwigenterprises.com "We're all writing everyday with our lives, whether or not we ever pick up a pen." û Linford Detweiler, Over the Rhine __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Snoryder78@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Off Subject Date: 16 May 2001 11:04:18 EDT --part1_48.15d6afd9.2833f0f2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm 22 unemployed, in the middle of moving cross country, with enough money for a train ticket and some food. Is the unfortunate enough for a weezer cd? --part1_48.15d6afd9.2833f0f2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>I'm 22 unemployed, in the middle of moving cross country, with enough money <BR>for a train ticket and some food. Is the unfortunate enough for a weezer cd?</FONT></HTML> --part1_48.15d6afd9.2833f0f2_boundary-- ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mike e." <donkeymike@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Off Subject Date: 16 May 2001 09:17:00 -0700 (PDT) ...I waited outside in my Green Yugo fer hours that one nite to drive you to my drum n bass show and you could never hear me honking...ain't that worthy? --- Eric <stale8975@excite.com> wrote: > > Yeah!! It's an amazing album! Buuuuuutttt..... > The trees told me to > get five more for karma reasons. So now I have five > of them. I think I am > going to give the remaining four to the unfortunate. > > EricTheRed > ===== "It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it." -Former US Vice President Dan Quayle __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric <stale8975@excite.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Off Subject Date: 16 May 2001 10:14:18 -0700 (PDT) *sigh* My ears weren't functioning that night and I was lost in the music of Moby. I had to turn it all the way up because of my ear problem at the time. But... I apologize vehemently, for the CD's have all been given away. I handed them to some homeless children so they might be able to hear good music. That's my contribution to the homeless problem we are facing on a day to day basis when we travel to NYC. EricTheRed > ...I waited outside in my Green Yugo fer hours that > one nite to drive you to my drum n bass show and you > could never hear me honking...ain't that worthy? > > --- Eric <stale8975@excite.com> wrote: > > > > Yeah!! It's an amazing album! Buuuuuutttt..... > > The trees told me to > > get five more for karma reasons. So now I have five > > of them. I think I am > > going to give the remaining four to the unfortunate. > > > > EricTheRed > > > > ===== > "It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it." > -Former US Vice President Dan Quayle > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. "It's not easy being green" _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Caviness <bigwigenterprises@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Off Subject Date: 16 May 2001 10:25:47 -0700 (PDT) --- Eric <stale8975@excite.com> wrote: > *sigh* My ears weren't functioning that night and I was > lost in the music of Moby. I had to turn it all the way > up because of my ear problem at the time. But... I > apologize vehemently, for the CD's have all been given > away. I handed them to some homeless children so they > might be able to hear good music. That's my contribution > to the homeless problem we are facing on a day to day > basis when we travel to NYC. > Ah yes.... music for homeless children... a worthy cause.... giving cd's to children who have no cd players. Pure evil disguised as benevolence. That makes my face light up with glee. ===== Bradley S. Caviness, Bigwig Bigwig Enterprises http://www.bigwigenterprises.com "We're all writing everyday with our lives, whether or not we ever pick up a pen." û Linford Detweiler, Over the Rhine __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric <stale8975@excite.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Off Subject Date: 16 May 2001 10:43:25 -0700 (PDT) I apologize vehemently, for the CD's have all been given away. I handed them to some homeless children so they might be able to hear good music. That's my contribution to the homeless problem we are facing on a day to day basis when we travel to NYC. On Wed, 16 May 2001 10:24:31 EDT, mobility@lists.xmission.com wrote: > hey Eric, i would be more than happy to take one..(:o)....elie "It's not easy being green" _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric <stale8975@excite.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Off Subject Date: 16 May 2001 12:37:18 -0700 (PDT) WOW! The line starts over here, buddy. ::giggles:: EricTheRed On Wed, 16 May 2001 11:04:18 EDT, mobility@lists.xmission.com wrote: > I'm 22 unemployed, in the middle of moving cross country, with enough money > for a train ticket and some food. Is the unfortunate enough for a weezer cd? "It's not easy being green" _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tyler Holt" <intotheblue_@hotmail.com> Subject: (mobility) Play DVD? Date: 16 May 2001 16:58:57 -0600 <html><DIV>Wasn't the Play DVD supposed to come out next month or in July? Does anyone know anything?</DIV><br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p></html> ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Len Rittberg" <lenrittberg@hotmail.com> Date: 16 May 2001 16:15:36 -0700 does anyone have info on area1 ticket sales for shoreline? thanks... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJTripp2@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Area 1 SHORELINE PRESALE TOMORROW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Date: 16 May 2001 20:31:07 EDT on sale tomorrow at ........ thursday 10 am https://ticketing.ticketmaster.com/cgi/purchasePage.asp?event_id=1C0032A8C0A F79E2&event_code=ESH0731 dj tripp ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr. Killpatient" <rfu@stitch.com> Subject: (mobility) Re: Area One Date: 17 May 2001 03:12:37 -0700 My information tells me that tix go on sale sunday may 20th, but I don't know the price- like it matters at all- New Order Moby Orb Outkast Roots paul Oakenfold Timo Maas Rinocerose etc...... I will be there and I will be recording. New ORder is only on the west coast part of the tour- lucky us here in california! I am upset that the Orb will not be on the main stage though and I may have to choose between them and possibly New Order or Moby. New Order wins since it's far more of a rare treat. I saw Moby 4 times in 99 and another 2 in 2000- I just saw the Orb a couple weeks ago and have seen them about 5 or 6 times. New Order- only seen them twice- two nights in a row in 1987. I will not miss them for anything! They are the real deal- the innovators of the modern electronic genres we love.... and whatever- just don't miss it. paul Len Rittberg wrote: > does anyone have info on area1 ticket sales for shoreline? thanks... > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric <stale8975@excite.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Off Subject Date: 17 May 2001 05:22:35 -0700 (PDT) Ahhhh, ya got me there. *giggles* EricTheRed On Wed, 16 May 2001 10:25:47 -0700 (PDT), mobility@lists.xmission.com wrote= : > =20 > --- Eric <stale8975@excite.com> wrote: > > *sigh* My ears weren't functioning that night and I was > > lost in the music of Moby. I had to turn it all the way=20 > > up because of my ear problem at the time. But... I=20 > > apologize vehemently, for the CD's have all been given > > away. I handed them to some homeless children so they > > might be able to hear good music. That's my contribution=20 > > to the homeless problem we are facing on a day to day=20 > > basis when we travel to NYC. > >=20 > Ah yes.... music for homeless children... a worthy cause.... > giving cd's to children who have no cd players. Pure evil > disguised as benevolence. That makes my face light up with glee. > =20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > Bradley S. Caviness, Bigwig > Bigwig Enterprises > =20 > http://www.bigwigenterprises.com > =20 > "We're all writing everyday with our lives, whether or not we ever pick up a pen." =96 Linford Detweiler, Over the Rhine > =20 > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > =20 > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. "It's not easy being green" _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mike e." <donkeymike@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Area 1 SHORELINE PRESALE TOMORROW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Date: 17 May 2001 08:54:47 -0700 (PDT) ...make sure you've got the correct "passwerd"... these presale events can be such a bogus event.. --- DJTripp2@aol.com wrote: > on sale tomorrow at ........ > > thursday 10 am > > > https://ticketing.ticketmaster.com/cgi/purchasePage.asp?event_id=1C0032A8C0A > F79E2&event_code=ESH0731 > > dj tripp > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ===== "It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it." -Former US Vice President Dan Quayle __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Snoryder78@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: Area One Date: 17 May 2001 12:39:08 EDT --part1_d3.14d10a9e.283558ac_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/17/01 5:14:26 AM Central Daylight Time, rfu@stitch.com writes: > New Order > Moby > Orb > Outkast > Roots > paul Oakenfold > Timo Maas > Rinocerose > etc...... > lets not forget Incubus :) --part1_d3.14d10a9e.283558ac_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 5/17/01 5:14:26 AM Central Daylight Time, rfu@stitch.com <BR>writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">New Order <BR>Moby <BR>Orb <BR>Outkast <BR>Roots <BR>paul Oakenfold <BR>Timo Maas <BR>Rinocerose <BR>etc...... <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>lets not forget Incubus :)</FONT></HTML> --part1_d3.14d10a9e.283558ac_boundary-- ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Snoryder78@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Area 1 SHORELINE PRESALE TOMORROW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Date: 17 May 2001 12:41:32 EDT --part1_3f.15407746.2835593c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/17/01 10:55:41 AM Central Daylight Time, donkeymike@yahoo.com writes: > "It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in > our air and water that are doing it." > wow --part1_3f.15407746.2835593c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 5/17/01 10:55:41 AM Central Daylight Time, <BR>donkeymike@yahoo.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">"It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in <BR>our air and water that are doing it." <BR>-Former US Vice President Dan Quayle</BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>wow</FONT></HTML> --part1_3f.15407746.2835593c_boundary-- ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Snoryder78@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Play DVD? Date: 17 May 2001 12:42:21 EDT --part1_104.36c31cc.2835596d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ooo . . . sounds cool --part1_104.36c31cc.2835596d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>ooo . . . sounds cool</FONT></HTML> --part1_104.36c31cc.2835596d_boundary-- ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jc jr <jcjr_69@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Area 1 SHORELINE PRESALE TOMORROW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Date: 17 May 2001 10:03:59 -0700 (PDT) what is the password?!?!?!?! thanks. --- "mike e." <donkeymike@yahoo.com> wrote: > ...make sure you've got the correct "passwerd"... > these presale events can be such a bogus event.. > > --- DJTripp2@aol.com wrote: > > on sale tomorrow at ........ > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jc jr <jcjr_69@yahoo.com> Subject: (mobility) please...what's the password?!?!? Date: 17 May 2001 10:05:18 -0700 (PDT) --- jc jr <jcjr_69@yahoo.com> wrote: > what is the password?!?!?!?! > > thanks. > > > --- "mike e." <donkeymike@yahoo.com> wrote: > > ...make sure you've got the correct "passwerd"... > > these presale events can be such a bogus event.. > > > > --- DJTripp2@aol.com wrote: > > > on sale tomorrow at ........ > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great > prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jc jr <jcjr_69@yahoo.com> Subject: (mobility) please...what's the password for shoreline tickets?!?!? Date: 17 May 2001 10:05:38 -0700 (PDT) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matt Olson" <matt@hollowgen.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: Area One Date: 17 May 2001 11:11:20 -0700 --=====_99012308041=_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable actually, let's. they're not coming to the west coast :( On 05/17/2001 at 12:39 PM Snoryder78@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 5/17/01 5:14:26 AM Central Daylight Time, rfu@stitch.com= writes: New Order Moby Orb Outkast Roots paul Oakenfold Timo Maas Rinocerose etc...... lets not forget Incubus :) -Matt ------ matt@hollowgen.net "I think anybody who doesn't think I'm smart enough to handle the job is underestimating." --G.W. Bush http://www.hollowgen.net http://bootlegs.hollowgen.net - Live Music Trading ------ --=====_99012308041=_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=windows-1252"> <META content="MSHTML 5.50.4134.600" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>actually, let's. they're not coming to the west coast :(</FONT><BR><BR>On 05/17/2001 at 12:39 PM Snoryder78@aol.com wrote:</FONT> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid"><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT size=2>In a message dated 5/17/01 5:14:26 AM Central Daylight Time, rfu@stitch.com <BR>writes: <BR><BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE="CITE">New Order <BR>Moby <BR>Orb <BR>Outkast <BR>Roots <BR>paul Oakenfold <BR>Timo Maas <BR>Rinocerose <BR>etc...... <BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>lets not forget Incubus :)</FONT><FONT size=2 Arial></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></FONT></BODY></HTML> <PRE> -Matt ------ matt@hollowgen.net "I think anybody who doesn't think I'm smart enough to handle the job is underestimating." --G.W. Bush http://www.hollowgen.net http://bootlegs.hollowgen.net - Live Music Trading ------</PRE> --=====_99012308041=_-- ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arcya@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Moby's Naked Sauna Factory + OT Date: 17 May 2001 16:51:52 EDT The only reason I'm writing this email is because I think it's funny that Trent Reznor (36) & Enya (40) have the same birthday (today). How's that for an argument against astrology? (note to those who take astrology very seriously - i'm kidding, please don't write volumes in response). Now to make this Moby related: someone recently posted a link to a (VERY short) news story about Moby having a loud nude party on his rooftop. Here's what he had to say about it (I'm ripping it off from moby-online.com): I'm so amused... You know the game 'chinese whispers'? Wherein one person says something and it's passed around between a bunch of people and by the time it reaches the last person it's completely changed (purple monkey dishwater)? A few weeks ago I went to a party on the roof of the Gershwin Hotel where someone had built a sauna. I went in the sauna for a little while and it was nice. Then I put on my clothes and left. Very simple. Then two weeks later the New York Post ran a little gossip bit saying that I was staying at the Gershwin Hotel and that I had been running around naked on the roof. Then some UK on-line sites ran stories that I had built a sauna on my roof and I had been up there with friends, naked. Then some other sites ran stories that the police had been called to my house because of noise disturbances and found me and my friends on my roof, naked. Let's see where the story goes now? It's really funny. Here's my proposal for the continuation of the story... I've built a sauna factory on my roof and I'm employing naked slave labourers to churn out shoddy, sub-par saunas that will be sold to plutocrats in the third world who will never find out that the saunas are shoddy cos it's so hot in their countires anyway, but they want the saunas for some of that world renowned nordic prestige. -Moby Aw, I'm somewhat disappointed...and I was thinking what a cool idea that was for a theme party, all tropical & such, maybe add a few butt-flaps... love&a cocktail umbrella, malfunctiongirl ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric <stale8975@excite.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) please...what's the password?!?!? Date: 17 May 2001 15:15:42 -0700 (PDT) The password is.... nipple... Eric > > --- jc jr <jcjr_69@yahoo.com> wrote: > > what is the password?!?!?!?! > > > > thanks. > > > > > > --- "mike e." <donkeymike@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > ...make sure you've got the correct "passwerd"... > > > these presale events can be such a bogus event.. > > > > > > --- DJTripp2@aol.com wrote: > > > > on sale tomorrow at ........ > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great > > prices > > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > > > ------------- > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > > majordomo@xmission.com > > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. "It's not easy being green" _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: martinjames <martin@martinjames.demon.co.uk> Subject: (mobility) Moby saves the rainforest Date: 18 May 2001 13:10:52 +0100 here's a story for you. forget A1, I want to go to the rainforest! Moby, Afrika Bambaata and Armand Van Helden are set to headline a 4-day rave EcoSystem 1.0 in the Amazon rainforest from Aug 2-5. Organisers Liquid Sky said the event is designed to highlight eco and pollution issues. They hope to confirm the line-up within weeks. Liquid Sky said: "The aim is to produce an ecologically friendly event and help raise awareness and support for Greenpeace and other NGO's that help protect the environment, local population and indigenous people." The proposed line-up also includes Mixmaster Morris, Mad Professor, Lamb, Randall, Kenny Ken, Bryan Gee, A Guy Called Gerald and Grooverider. Greenpeace Amazon said: "The event is to serve as a way of communicating how important it is to preserve the largest tropical forest in the world." More information and booking contact Martin ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: martinjames <martin@martinjames.demon.co.uk> Subject: (mobility) another story Date: 18 May 2001 12:14:43 +0100 Moby has contacted UK trance DJ John 'OO' Fleming with a view to a future collaboration and possible work on the follow-up to Moby's 'Play'. Moby is set to take time out from the studio where is working on a new LP to meet up with Fleming at a forthcoming UK club date. Fleming said: "I'm a massive fan of Moby. Who isn't? The guy's a dance genius. I'm truly humbled to hear his praise of my work and can't wait to hook up with him in the UK. I hope we will collaborate in the future." Fleming's current mix LP 'Euphoria' has just sold over 20,000 copies in the UK in its first week of release. Fleming has also announced that he will be releasing a series of new tracks on his own Joof label throughout the summer. He has also recorded a remix of Simple Minds' 'Belfast Child' due for release this autumn. An industry source said: "Fleming's peak-time mix of 'Belfast Child' is a potential Top 10 or higher - if that happens everyone's going to know about Fleming." ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJ Paul Simpson <techno_gpig@yahoo.com> Subject: (mobility) moby fleming Date: 18 May 2001 04:58:07 -0700 (PDT) if moby refuses to collab with new order or pulp, why the hell would he work with some trance guy? i've never heard him before, so i cant judge him, but if moby can work with this guy, he can work with new order. FACK! DJ PAUL ===== "Computer games don't affect kids; if Pac-man had affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DJ PAUL, host of Chester's Blanket Fort, 89.5 FM/wpkn.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: martinjames <martin@martinjames.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: (mobility) moby fleming Date: 18 May 2001 13:35:10 +0100 maybe he feels too over awed by new order... its that low self esteem thing he's always going on about martin on 18/5/01 12:58, DJ Paul Simpson at techno_gpig@yahoo.com wrote: > if moby refuses to collab with new order or pulp, why > the hell would he work with some trance guy? > > i've never heard him before, so i cant judge him, but > if moby can work with this guy, he can work with new > order. > > FACK! > DJ PAUL > > ===== > "Computer games don't affect kids; if Pac-man had affected us as kids, we'd > all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to > repetitive electronic music." > ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > DJ PAUL, host of Chester's Blanket Fort, 89.5 FM/wpkn.org > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dj pagan <djpagan@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby saves the rainforest Date: 18 May 2001 07:50:29 -0700 (PDT) --- martinjames wrote: > Moby, Afrika Bambaata and Armand Van Helden are > set to headline a 4-day rave EcoSystem 1.0 in > the Amazon rainforest from Aug 2-5. Organisers > Liquid Sky said the event is designed to > highlight eco and pollution issues. They > hope to confirm the line-up within weeks. > Liquid Sky said: "The aim is to produce an > ecologically friendly event and help raise > awareness and support for Greenpeace and other > NGO's that help protect the environment, local > population and indigenous people." The proposed > line-up also includes Mixmaster Morris, Mad > Professor, Lamb, Randall, Kenny Ken, Bryan Gee, > A Guy Called Gerald and Grooverider. Greenpeace > Amazon said: "The event is to serve as a way of > communicating how important it is to preserve > the largest tropical forest in the world." More > information and booking contact. great. so when the concert's over and all the trash is sitting around that no one wanted to pick up, and the terrain is ruined after four days of party goers, and the smoke has polluted the air more, and all sorts of rain forests are cut down for cattle to graze to supply the hamburgers for the crowd, and everyone has bought into the same capitalist machine that produce the $4 water bottles, $5 sandwich, glowsticks, beads, etc... we'll at least see the pretty rainforest which will be chopped down for the next festival since it will be a success. god, i'm depressing. but seriously, this is like having sex to protect virginity. /djp ===== djpagan www.geocities.com/projectaristotle "it is enough." - immanuel kant, his last words __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Snoryder78@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby saves the rainforest Date: 18 May 2001 11:11:36 EDT --part1_c0.1466e1e1.283695a8_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/18/01 9:52:47 AM Central Daylight Time, djpagan@yahoo.com writes: > great. so when the concert's over and all the > trash is sitting around that no one wanted to > pick up, and the terrain is ruined after four > days of party goers, and the smoke has polluted > the air more, and all sorts of rain forests are > cut down for cattle to graze to supply the > hamburgers for the crowd, and everyone has bought > into the same capitalist machine that produce the > $4 water bottles, $5 sandwich, glowsticks, beads, > etc... we'll at least see the pretty rainforest > which will be chopped down for the next festival > since it will be a success. > This sounds like an awesome party and I give people a little more credit and Imagine that given the theme there will be a concious effort to take care of, clean, and respect the venue. This could be a very informative event and given our president seems to be so "earth-friendly" I think we could use all the "earth-friendly" help we can get. >and all sorts of rain forests are >cut down for cattle to graze to supply the >hamburgers for the crowd This is happening either way, An event like this can only do good as far as making people more aware of ways to curve or protest these activities. peace, Ian --part1_c0.1466e1e1.283695a8_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 5/18/01 9:52:47 AM Central Daylight Time, <BR>djpagan@yahoo.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">great. so when the concert's over and all the <BR>trash is sitting around that no one wanted to <BR>pick up, and the terrain is ruined after four <BR>days of party goers, and the smoke has polluted <BR>the air more, and all sorts of rain forests are <BR>cut down for cattle to graze to supply the <BR>hamburgers for the crowd, and everyone has bought <BR>into the same capitalist machine that produce the <BR>$4 water bottles, $5 sandwich, glowsticks, beads, <BR>etc... we'll at least see the pretty rainforest <BR>which will be chopped down for the next festival <BR>since it will be a success. <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>This sounds like an awesome party and I give people a little more credit and <BR>Imagine that given the theme there will be a concious effort to take care of, <BR>clean, and respect the venue. This could be a very informative event and <BR>given our president seems to be so "earth-friendly" I think we could use all <BR>the "earth-friendly" help we can get. <BR> <BR>>and all sorts of rain forests are <BR>>cut down for cattle to graze to supply the <BR>>hamburgers for the crowd <BR> <BR>This is happening either way, An event like this can only do good as far as <BR>making people more aware of ways to curve or protest these activities. <BR> <BR>peace, <BR>Ian <BR></FONT></HTML> --part1_c0.1466e1e1.283695a8_boundary-- ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Elissa Brown <elissabird@yahoo.com> Subject: (mobility) Moby saves the rainforest Date: 18 May 2001 08:12:29 -0700 (PDT) Mart wrote: > here's a story for you. forget A1, I want to go to the rainforest! > > > Moby, Afrika Bambaata and Armand Van Helden are set to headline a 4-day > rave EcoSystem 1.0 in the Amazon rainforest from Aug 2-5. Organisers Liquid [snip] > Called Gerald and Grooverider. Greenpeace Amazon said: "The event is to > serve as a way of communicating how important it is to preserve the largest > tropical forest in the world." More information and booking contact Awesome! Sign me up. Something else I will have to put away money for. Now that's gonna be a suana.... elissa contributing nothing new really.. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mike e." <donkeymike@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) moby fleming Date: 18 May 2001 09:05:10 -0700 (PDT) OR .... maybe Moby just chooses what the FACK he wants to do ??????????????????????????????????????????????? DJ Paul Simpson at > techno_gpig@yahoo.com wrote: > > > if moby refuses to collab with new order or pulp, > why > > the hell would he work with some trance guy? > > > > i've never heard him before, so i cant judge him, > but > > if moby can work with this guy, he can work with > new > > order. > > > > FACK! > > DJ PAUL > > > > ===== > > "Computer games don't affect kids; if Pac-man had > affected us as kids, we'd > > all be running around in darkened rooms, munching > magic pills and listening to > > repetitive electronic music." > > ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > DJ PAUL, host of Chester's Blanket Fort, 89.5 > FM/wpkn.org > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great > prices > > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > > > ------------- > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > majordomo@xmission.com > > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. > > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ===== "It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it." -Former US Vice President Dan Quayle __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Caetano78@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby saves the rainforest Date: 18 May 2001 12:12:26 EDT --part1_109.cae21.2836a3ea_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit in the AMAZON?!?!?!??! guess who is going to be in brasil during this rave?!?!?!?!?! ME ME ME ME ME!!! YEAH!!!!!! love..elie --part1_109.cae21.2836a3ea_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT COLOR="#004080" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Lucida Sans" LANG="0">in the AMAZON?!?!?!??! <BR> <BR>guess who is going to be in brasil during this rave?!?!?!?!?! ME ME ME ME <BR>ME!!! <BR> <BR>YEAH!!!!!! <BR> <BR>love..elie <BR></FONT></HTML> --part1_109.cae21.2836a3ea_boundary-- ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Caetano78@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby saves the rainforest Date: 18 May 2001 12:17:35 EDT --part1_9.1593a847.2836a51f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit things don't work like that in brasil... to be honest with you, i don't even see this rave actually happening... assuming that the majority of the people attending this rave will be brasilians, the turn out will prolly not be what they expect... the brasilian youth and young adult population can barely afford a nite out at a movie and dinner at mcdonalds, and i am talking about the middle class...let alone a long ass trip to the Amazon for a rave...i may be wrong, but i do not see this working as well as it may seem....unless they turn this into a big Ibiza like getaway for the weekend deal package where people from other countries who have money will go and party...i don't know..elie --part1_9.1593a847.2836a51f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT COLOR="#004080" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Lucida Sans" LANG="0">things don't work like that in brasil... <BR>to be honest with you, i don't even see this rave actually happening... <BR>assuming that the majority of the people attending this rave will be <BR>brasilians, the turn out will prolly not be what they expect... <BR>the brasilian youth and young adult population can barely afford a nite out <BR>at a movie and dinner at mcdonalds, and i am talking about the middle <BR>class...let alone a long ass trip to the Amazon for a rave...i may be wrong, <BR>but i do not see this working as well as it may seem....unless they turn this <BR>into a big Ibiza like getaway for the weekend deal package where people from <BR>other countries who have money will go and party...i don't know..elie</FONT></HTML> --part1_9.1593a847.2836a51f_boundary-- ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "z | 2 | 4 | 2 |" <zig242@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) moby fleming Date: 18 May 2001 09:18:28 -0700 john "OO" fleming rocks!!! >DJ Paul Simpson at > > techno_gpig@yahoo.com wrote: > > > > > if moby refuses to collab with new order or pulp, > > why > > > the hell would he work with some trance guy? > > > > > > i've never heard him before, so i cant judge him, > > but > > > if moby can work with this guy, he can work with > > new > > > order. > > > > > > FACK! > > > DJ PAUL _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dj pagan <djpagan@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby saves the rainforest Date: 18 May 2001 09:33:31 -0700 (PDT) --- Snoryder78@aol.com wrote: >> and all sorts of rain forests are cut down for >> cattle to graze to supply the hamburgers for >> the crowd > > This is happening either way, An event like > this can only do good as far as making people > more aware of ways to curve or protest these > activities. you're preaching to the converted. this whole concert, while a killer lineup and a good message, is sending mixed signals. i don't think anyone is going to come away with a raised consciousness. it's going to be a party, they are going to have fun, and they are going to continue to live the same ways. maybe a few will change, but if you can weight that over the destruction this concert will cause alone, then i guess it will be all right. /djp ===== djpagan www.geocities.com/projectaristotle "it is enough." - immanuel kant, his last words __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Snoryder78@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby saves the rainforest Date: 18 May 2001 12:56:58 EDT --part1_a6.143828d8.2836ae5a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/18/01 11:35:30 AM Central Daylight Time, djpagan@yahoo.com writes: > it's going to be a party, they > are going to have fun, and they are going to > If you were at a 3-4 day party woulnd't you spend a small part of your day checking out the available info and kind of see what the party is about. I think that more people than you think might make an effort to at least check it out. Whether they change or not is a different subject but at least they've been exposed to such material. As for the amount of destruction I guess it depends on the size and attitude of the crowd. It is in a sense a celebration of the Amazon so I would Imagine that there would be a certain level of respect for the venue, but than again it's true, a large enough crowd could be harmful to the venue. I don't know, If enough people were willing to clean the remains and at least after themselves it could work out in our favor. The original woodstock site was left spotless . . . Peace, Ian --part1_a6.143828d8.2836ae5a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 5/18/01 11:35:30 AM Central Daylight Time, <BR>djpagan@yahoo.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">it's going to be a party, they <BR>are going to have fun, and they are going to <BR>continue to live the same ways</BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>If you were at a 3-4 day party woulnd't you spend a small part of your day <BR>checking out the available info and kind of see what the party is about. I <BR>think that more people than you think might make an effort to at least check <BR>it out. Whether they change or not is a different subject but at least <BR>they've been exposed to such material. <BR> <BR>As for the amount of destruction I guess it depends on the size and attitude <BR>of the crowd. It is in a sense a celebration of the Amazon so I would <BR>Imagine that there would be a certain level of respect for the venue, but <BR>than again it's true, a large enough crowd could be harmful to the venue. <BR>I don't know, If enough people were willing to clean the remains and at least <BR>after themselves it could work out in our favor. The original woodstock site <BR>was left spotless . . . <BR> <BR>Peace, <BR>Ian</FONT></HTML> --part1_a6.143828d8.2836ae5a_boundary-- ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Caviness <bigwigenterprises@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby saves the rainforest Date: 18 May 2001 11:18:39 -0700 (PDT) --- Snoryder78@aol.com wrote: > The original woodstock site was left spotless . . . > You're a little off the base here... the original Woodstock site was declared a federal emergency site by the end of the festival because the 300,000 festival goers were knee deep in mud, caused by torrential rains, that contained a good amount of refuse, camping gear, human and animal waste. Traffic to and from the fest prevented emergency workers from getting to the site by any means except helicopter, which delayed treatment for many people who were having medical problems due to drugs and dysentery. When the festival goers finally all left on Monday, the site looked like a wasteland, covered in filth, garbage, and abandoned camping gear, clothing, vehicles, etc., that had succombed to the extreme conditions on the festival grounds. Photographic evidence of this is apparent in the landmark 1970 film "Woodstock", as well as any number of photo essays that were taken by the local media during the fest. ===== Bradley S. Caviness, Bigwig Bigwig Enterprises http://www.bigwigenterprises.com "We're all writing everyday with our lives, whether or not we ever pick up a pen." û Linford Detweiler, Over the Rhine __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mike e." <donkeymike@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby saves the rainforest Date: 18 May 2001 11:45:07 -0700 (PDT) ...Thanks Brad...I was going to reply to this as well but just didn't have the energy or will to explain it --- Brad Caviness <bigwigenterprises@yahoo.com> wrote: > > --- Snoryder78@aol.com wrote: > > The original woodstock site was left spotless . . > . > > > You're a little off the base here... the original > Woodstock > site was declared a federal emergency site by the > end of the > festival because the 300,000 festival goers were > knee deep > in mud, caused by torrential rains, that contained a > good > amount of refuse, camping gear, human and animal > waste. > Traffic to and from the fest prevented emergency > workers > from getting to the site by any means except > helicopter, > which delayed treatment for many people who were > having > medical problems due to drugs and dysentery. When > the > festival goers finally all left on Monday, the site > looked > like a wasteland, covered in filth, garbage, and > abandoned > camping gear, clothing, vehicles, etc., that had > succombed > to the extreme conditions on the festival grounds. > Photographic evidence of this is apparent in the > landmark > 1970 film "Woodstock", as well as any number of > photo essays > that were taken by the local media during the fest. > > ===== > Bradley S. Caviness, Bigwig > Bigwig Enterprises > > http://www.bigwigenterprises.com > > "We're all writing everyday with our lives, whether > or not we ever pick up a pen." û Linford Detweiler, > Over the Rhine > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great > prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ===== "It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it." -Former US Vice President Dan Quayle __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Snoryder78@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby saves the rainforest Date: 18 May 2001 14:50:07 EDT --part1_cf.6ba996c.2836c8df_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >300,000 festival goers were knee deep >in mud, caused by torrential rains, that contained a good >amount of refuse, camping gear, human and animal waste >When the >festival goers finally all left on Monday, the site looked >like a wasteland, covered in filth, garbage, and abandoned >camping gear, clothing, vehicles, etc., that had succombed >to the extreme conditions on the festival grounds. >Photographic evidence of this is apparent in the landmark >1970 film "Woodstock", as well as any number of photo essays >that were taken by the local media during the fest. I'm aware of the condition that woodstock was left in, I've seen the movie and plenty of pictures. My point was that there was a very large effort to clean up Yasgur's Farm and the surrounding area. I'm sure a rave (remember?) in the amazon won't come close to being the mass crowd that woodstock was and I'm sure it's possible to keep it a positive and productive experience . . . garbage and all. peace Ian "Also, contrary to press releases, several hundred people at the original Woodstock stayed there for several days to help with the cleanup." http://people.ne.mediaone.net/mrivan/Woodstock.html --part1_cf.6ba996c.2836c8df_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>>300,000 festival goers were knee deep <BR>>in mud, caused by torrential rains, that contained a good <BR>>amount of refuse, camping gear, human and animal waste <BR>>When the <BR>>festival goers finally all left on Monday, the site looked <BR>>like a wasteland, covered in filth, garbage, and abandoned <BR>>camping gear, clothing, vehicles, etc., that had succombed <BR>>to the extreme conditions on the festival grounds. <BR>>Photographic evidence of this is apparent in the landmark <BR>>1970 film "Woodstock", as well as any number of photo essays <BR>>that were taken by the local media during the fest. <BR> <BR>I'm aware of the condition that woodstock was left in, I've seen the movie <BR>and plenty of pictures. My point was that there was a very large effort to <BR>clean up Yasgur's Farm and the surrounding area. I'm sure a rave (remember?) <BR>in the amazon won't come close to being the mass crowd that woodstock was and <BR>I'm sure it's possible to keep it a positive and productive experience . . . <BR>garbage and all. <BR>peace <BR>Ian <BR> <BR>"Also, contrary to press releases, several hundred people at the original <BR>Woodstock stayed there for several days to help with the cleanup." <BR>http://people.ne.mediaone.net/mrivan/Woodstock.html</FONT></HTML> --part1_cf.6ba996c.2836c8df_boundary-- ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJ Paul Simpson <techno_gpig@yahoo.com> Subject: (mobility) fleming Date: 18 May 2001 13:26:17 -0700 (PDT) well, maybe fleming does rock. nme gave his last mix cd a horrible review, but that doesn't mean it is horrible. i don't know, i've never heard of him before. however, he doesnt have as much of a legacy as new order. true, moby can do whatever the FACK he wants to (not that any of you except maybe pagan knows where that word comes from, teeheehee ;) and maybe new order is too intimidating for him. (but why?) i don't know, maybe i'm just being an indie snob again >:-) FACK! DJ PAUL ===== "Computer games don't affect kids; if Pac-man had affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DJ PAUL, host of Chester's Blanket Fort, 89.5 FM/wpkn.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mike e." <donkeymike@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) fleming Date: 18 May 2001 14:18:38 -0700 (PDT) AHHHH FACK! Legacy Schmegacy!! Out with the old, in with the new...... --- DJ Paul Simpson <techno_gpig@yahoo.com> wrote: > well, maybe fleming does rock. nme gave his last mix > cd a horrible review, but that doesn't mean it is > horrible. i don't know, i've never heard of him > before. > > however, he doesnt have as much of a legacy as new > order. > > true, moby can do whatever the FACK he wants to (not > that any of you except maybe pagan knows where that > word comes from, teeheehee ;) > > and maybe new order is too intimidating for him. > (but > why?) > > > i don't know, maybe i'm just being an indie snob > again > >:-) > > > FACK! > DJ PAUL > > ===== > "Computer games don't affect kids; if Pac-man had > affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in > darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening > to repetitive electronic music." > ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > DJ PAUL, host of Chester's Blanket Fort, 89.5 > FM/wpkn.org > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great > prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ===== "It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it." -Former US Vice President Dan Quayle __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Geoffrey Sproule" <geoffrey@gsproule.freeserve.co.uk> Subject: (mobility) rsi Date: 19 May 2001 00:35:59 +0100 omg does moby suffer from repetive strain injury? MOBY PLEASE REST i dont want you injuring your self for the sake of us and your beautiful music just take it easy there, rest up and in notime you will be fighting fit again and i am sure this is coming from all the mobility members Geoff ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Caviness <bigwigenterprises@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) fleming Date: 19 May 2001 05:13:59 -0700 (PDT) --- DJ Paul Simpson <techno_gpig@yahoo.com> wrote: > "Computer games don't affect kids; if Pac-man had affected > us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, > munching magic pills and listening to repetitive > electronic music." > Mr. Paul.... you simply must tell me where this quote originated.... as an avid Pac player when I was younger than you about a million years ago, I note not only it's significance, but it's humor and would like to give proper credit when ever I use it. ===== Bradley S. Caviness, Bigwig Bigwig Enterprises http://www.bigwigenterprises.com "We're all writing everyday with our lives, whether or not we ever pick up a pen." û Linford Detweiler, Over the Rhine __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Turpin <justified_type@mac.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) fleming Date: 19 May 2001 16:13:04 -0500 At 1:26 PM -0700 5/18/01, DJ Paul Simpson wrote: >and maybe new order is too intimidating for him. (but >why?) I've gotten the impression that New Order have come pretty close to breaking up in the last few years, so I imagine that they're not the most stable group of people to work with. It's Moby's call. -- John Turpin / <http://homepage.mac.com/justified_type/> "Next after theology I give to music the highest place and the greatest honor." -- Martin Luther ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Cross" <pcross@precisioneng.com> Subject: (mobility) [very ot] illshit.ni ftp tracklisting Date: 22 May 2001 13:46:49 -0700 air - live in berlin air - live in london (video) aphex twin - live in vancouver avalanches - breezeblock set bassbin twins - live in ny basement jaxx - the essential mix=20 brainfreeze - brainfreeze prts =BD chemical brothers - anti nazi mix chemical brothers - essential mix chemical brothers - live at homelands chemical brothers - live at lollipop 96 chemical brothers - live BBC set 1 and 2 chemical brothers - live in london 96 chemical brothers - the glastonbury festival 2000 and 1997 crystal method - dj set=20 crystal method - live 97/98 cut and paste - essential mix darren emerson - breezeblock set darren emerson - jjj set darren emerson - underworld promo mix dave clarke - essential mix dj shadow - breezeblock dj shadow - live in austin=20 doc martin - essential mix fatboy slim - bouncy hour=20 fatboy slim - essential mix=20 fatboy slim - live at the avalon fatboy slim - live at the hammerstein freq nasty - breezeblock set freq nasty - live dj set fsol - essential mix prts 1 / 2 fsol - live in paris=20 groove armada - dj set=20 groove rider - essential mix ian pooley live at pfefferberg josh wink - essential mix kid koala & dj p-love - world dmc 2000 kid koala live in toronto kid koala - breezeblock set leftfield - essential mix=20 leftfield - live at homelands luke vibert - live In toronto orbital - breezeblock set orbital - live in new york=20 orbital - live in san francisco=20 pete tong / timo maas - essential mix=20 plump dj's @ ray-gun plump dj's live at love parade plump dj's live radio gig rabbit in the moon - live dj set riche hawtin - essential mix richie hawtin - mixmag live set squarepusher - live @ coachella 2001 the orb - breezeblock set tilt - essential mix =20 underworld - essential mix underworld - live at euro club gig underworld - live in japan=20 x-press2 - essential mix=20 anyone interested in getting any of the files from my ftp, I will have the = info and ftp up and running in the next day or so.. any how just felt the need to share this info with ya'll. I am sure some = of you will find something to your liking... p. ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "z | 2 | 4 | 2 |" <zig242@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) [very ot] illshit.ni ftp tracklisting Date: 22 May 2001 13:57:12 -0700 yowza!! yesh, please :D please post info on how to share yer files thanx! Z!~ >From: "Paul Cross" <pcross@precisioneng.com> >Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >To: <mobility@xmission.com> >Subject: (mobility) [very ot] illshit.ni ftp tracklisting >Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 13:46:49 -0700 > >air - live in berlin >air - live in london (video) >aphex twin - live in vancouver >avalanches - breezeblock set >bassbin twins - live in ny >basement jaxx - the essential mix >brainfreeze - brainfreeze prts ╜ >chemical brothers - anti nazi mix >chemical brothers - essential mix >chemical brothers - live at homelands >chemical brothers - live at lollipop 96 >chemical brothers - live BBC set 1 and 2 >chemical brothers - live in london 96 >chemical brothers - the glastonbury festival 2000 and 1997 >crystal method - dj set >crystal method - live 97/98 >cut and paste - essential mix >darren emerson - breezeblock set >darren emerson - jjj set >darren emerson - underworld promo mix >dave clarke - essential mix >dj shadow - breezeblock >dj shadow - live in austin >doc martin - essential mix >fatboy slim - bouncy hour >fatboy slim - essential mix >fatboy slim - live at the avalon >fatboy slim - live at the hammerstein >freq nasty - breezeblock set >freq nasty - live dj set >fsol - essential mix prts 1 / 2 >fsol - live in paris >groove armada - dj set >groove rider - essential mix >ian pooley live at pfefferberg >josh wink - essential mix >kid koala & dj p-love - world dmc 2000 >kid koala live in toronto >kid koala - breezeblock set >leftfield - essential mix >leftfield - live at homelands >luke vibert - live In toronto >orbital - breezeblock set >orbital - live in new york >orbital - live in san francisco >pete tong / timo maas - essential mix >plump dj's @ ray-gun >plump dj's live at love parade >plump dj's live radio gig >rabbit in the moon - live dj set >riche hawtin - essential mix >richie hawtin - mixmag live set >squarepusher - live @ coachella 2001 >the orb - breezeblock set >tilt - essential mix >underworld - essential mix >underworld - live at euro club gig >underworld - live in japan >x-press2 - essential mix > >anyone interested in getting any of the files from my ftp, I will have the >info and ftp up and running in the next day or so.. > >any how just felt the need to share this info with ya'll. I am sure some >of you will find something to your liking... > >p. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "z | 2 | 4 | 2 |" <zig242@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) [very ot] illshit.ni ftp tracklisting Date: 22 May 2001 13:57:12 -0700 yowza!! yesh, please :D please post info on how to share yer files thanx! Z!~ >From: "Paul Cross" <pcross@precisioneng.com> >Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >To: <mobility@xmission.com> >Subject: (mobility) [very ot] illshit.ni ftp tracklisting >Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 13:46:49 -0700 > >air - live in berlin >air - live in london (video) >aphex twin - live in vancouver >avalanches - breezeblock set >bassbin twins - live in ny >basement jaxx - the essential mix >brainfreeze - brainfreeze prts ╜ >chemical brothers - anti nazi mix >chemical brothers - essential mix >chemical brothers - live at homelands >chemical brothers - live at lollipop 96 >chemical brothers - live BBC set 1 and 2 >chemical brothers - live in london 96 >chemical brothers - the glastonbury festival 2000 and 1997 >crystal method - dj set >crystal method - live 97/98 >cut and paste - essential mix >darren emerson - breezeblock set >darren emerson - jjj set >darren emerson - underworld promo mix >dave clarke - essential mix >dj shadow - breezeblock >dj shadow - live in austin >doc martin - essential mix >fatboy slim - bouncy hour >fatboy slim - essential mix >fatboy slim - live at the avalon >fatboy slim - live at the hammerstein >freq nasty - breezeblock set >freq nasty - live dj set >fsol - essential mix prts 1 / 2 >fsol - live in paris >groove armada - dj set >groove rider - essential mix >ian pooley live at pfefferberg >josh wink - essential mix >kid koala & dj p-love - world dmc 2000 >kid koala live in toronto >kid koala - breezeblock set >leftfield - essential mix >leftfield - live at homelands >luke vibert - live In toronto >orbital - breezeblock set >orbital - live in new york >orbital - live in san francisco >pete tong / timo maas - essential mix >plump dj's @ ray-gun >plump dj's live at love parade >plump dj's live radio gig >rabbit in the moon - live dj set >riche hawtin - essential mix >richie hawtin - mixmag live set >squarepusher - live @ coachella 2001 >the orb - breezeblock set >tilt - essential mix >underworld - essential mix >underworld - live at euro club gig >underworld - live in japan >x-press2 - essential mix > >anyone interested in getting any of the files from my ftp, I will have the >info and ftp up and running in the next day or so.. > >any how just felt the need to share this info with ya'll. I am sure some >of you will find something to your liking... > >p. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Cross" <pcross@precisioneng.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) [very ot] illshit.ni ftp tracklisting Date: 22 May 2001 14:06:54 -0700 well for now: www.illshit.nu=20 when the ftp goes online the website will update and you (or anyone) can = D/L or U/L...send you email addy to the link on the webpage and we will be = sure and get the info out to you asap.. >>> zig242@hotmail.com 05/22/01 01:57PM >>> yowza!! yesh, please :D please post info on how to share yer files thanx! Z!~ >From: "Paul Cross" <pcross@precisioneng.com> >Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com=20 >To: <mobility@xmission.com> >Subject: (mobility) [very ot] illshit.ni ftp tracklisting >Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 13:46:49 -0700 > >air - live in berlin >air - live in london (video) >aphex twin - live in vancouver >avalanches - breezeblock set >bassbin twins - live in ny >basement jaxx - the essential mix >brainfreeze - brainfreeze prts =BD >chemical brothers - anti nazi mix >chemical brothers - essential mix >chemical brothers - live at homelands >chemical brothers - live at lollipop 96 >chemical brothers - live BBC set 1 and 2 >chemical brothers - live in london 96 >chemical brothers - the glastonbury festival 2000 and 1997 >crystal method - dj set >crystal method - live 97/98 >cut and paste - essential mix >darren emerson - breezeblock set >darren emerson - jjj set >darren emerson - underworld promo mix >dave clarke - essential mix >dj shadow - breezeblock >dj shadow - live in austin >doc martin - essential mix >fatboy slim - bouncy hour >fatboy slim - essential mix >fatboy slim - live at the avalon >fatboy slim - live at the hammerstein >freq nasty - breezeblock set >freq nasty - live dj set >fsol - essential mix prts 1 / 2 >fsol - live in paris >groove armada - dj set >groove rider - essential mix >ian pooley live at pfefferberg >josh wink - essential mix >kid koala & dj p-love - world dmc 2000 >kid koala live in toronto >kid koala - breezeblock set >leftfield - essential mix >leftfield - live at homelands >luke vibert - live In toronto >orbital - breezeblock set >orbital - live in new york >orbital - live in san francisco >pete tong / timo maas - essential mix >plump dj's @ ray-gun >plump dj's live at love parade >plump dj's live radio gig >rabbit in the moon - live dj set >riche hawtin - essential mix >richie hawtin - mixmag live set >squarepusher - live @ coachella 2001 >the orb - breezeblock set >tilt - essential mix >underworld - essential mix >underworld - live at euro club gig >underworld - live in japan >x-press2 - essential mix > >anyone interested in getting any of the files from my ftp, I will have = the=20 >info and ftp up and running in the next day or so.. > >any how just felt the need to share this info with ya'll. I am sure = some=20 >of you will find something to your liking... > >p. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com=20 ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com=20 with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Cross" <pcross@precisioneng.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) [very ot] illshit.ni ftp tracklisting Date: 22 May 2001 14:06:54 -0700 well for now: www.illshit.nu=20 when the ftp goes online the website will update and you (or anyone) can = D/L or U/L...send you email addy to the link on the webpage and we will be = sure and get the info out to you asap.. >>> zig242@hotmail.com 05/22/01 01:57PM >>> yowza!! yesh, please :D please post info on how to share yer files thanx! Z!~ >From: "Paul Cross" <pcross@precisioneng.com> >Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com=20 >To: <mobility@xmission.com> >Subject: (mobility) [very ot] illshit.ni ftp tracklisting >Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 13:46:49 -0700 > >air - live in berlin >air - live in london (video) >aphex twin - live in vancouver >avalanches - breezeblock set >bassbin twins - live in ny >basement jaxx - the essential mix >brainfreeze - brainfreeze prts =BD >chemical brothers - anti nazi mix >chemical brothers - essential mix >chemical brothers - live at homelands >chemical brothers - live at lollipop 96 >chemical brothers - live BBC set 1 and 2 >chemical brothers - live in london 96 >chemical brothers - the glastonbury festival 2000 and 1997 >crystal method - dj set >crystal method - live 97/98 >cut and paste - essential mix >darren emerson - breezeblock set >darren emerson - jjj set >darren emerson - underworld promo mix >dave clarke - essential mix >dj shadow - breezeblock >dj shadow - live in austin >doc martin - essential mix >fatboy slim - bouncy hour >fatboy slim - essential mix >fatboy slim - live at the avalon >fatboy slim - live at the hammerstein >freq nasty - breezeblock set >freq nasty - live dj set >fsol - essential mix prts 1 / 2 >fsol - live in paris >groove armada - dj set >groove rider - essential mix >ian pooley live at pfefferberg >josh wink - essential mix >kid koala & dj p-love - world dmc 2000 >kid koala live in toronto >kid koala - breezeblock set >leftfield - essential mix >leftfield - live at homelands >luke vibert - live In toronto >orbital - breezeblock set >orbital - live in new york >orbital - live in san francisco >pete tong / timo maas - essential mix >plump dj's @ ray-gun >plump dj's live at love parade >plump dj's live radio gig >rabbit in the moon - live dj set >riche hawtin - essential mix >richie hawtin - mixmag live set >squarepusher - live @ coachella 2001 >the orb - breezeblock set >tilt - essential mix >underworld - essential mix >underworld - live at euro club gig >underworld - live in japan >x-press2 - essential mix > >anyone interested in getting any of the files from my ftp, I will have = the=20 >info and ftp up and running in the next day or so.. > >any how just felt the need to share this info with ya'll. I am sure = some=20 >of you will find something to your liking... > >p. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com=20 ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com=20 with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "z | 2 | 4 | 2 |" <zig242@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) [very ot] illshit.ni ftp tracklisting OFF DA HOOK! Date: 22 May 2001 14:23:15 -0700 kewl! thanx :) Z!~ >From: "Paul Cross" <pcross@precisioneng.com> >Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >To: <zig242@hotmail.com>,<mobility@lists.xmission.com>, ><mobility@xmission.com> >Subject: Re: (mobility) [very ot] illshit.ni ftp tracklisting >Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 14:06:54 -0700 > >well for now: > >www.illshit.nu > >when the ftp goes online the website will update and you (or anyone) can >D/L or U/L...send you email addy to the link on the webpage and we will be >sure and get the info out to you asap.. > > >>> zig242@hotmail.com 05/22/01 01:57PM >>> >yowza!! > >yesh, please :D > >please post info on how to share yer files > >thanx! > >Z!~ > > >From: "Paul Cross" <pcross@precisioneng.com> > >Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > >To: <mobility@xmission.com> > >Subject: (mobility) [very ot] illshit.ni ftp tracklisting > >Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 13:46:49 -0700 > > > >air - live in berlin > >air - live in london (video) > >aphex twin - live in vancouver > >avalanches - breezeblock set > >bassbin twins - live in ny > >basement jaxx - the essential mix > >brainfreeze - brainfreeze prts ╜ > >chemical brothers - anti nazi mix > >chemical brothers - essential mix > >chemical brothers - live at homelands > >chemical brothers - live at lollipop 96 > >chemical brothers - live BBC set 1 and 2 > >chemical brothers - live in london 96 > >chemical brothers - the glastonbury festival 2000 and 1997 > >crystal method - dj set > >crystal method - live 97/98 > >cut and paste - essential mix > >darren emerson - breezeblock set > >darren emerson - jjj set > >darren emerson - underworld promo mix > >dave clarke - essential mix > >dj shadow - breezeblock > >dj shadow - live in austin > >doc martin - essential mix > >fatboy slim - bouncy hour > >fatboy slim - essential mix > >fatboy slim - live at the avalon > >fatboy slim - live at the hammerstein > >freq nasty - breezeblock set > >freq nasty - live dj set > >fsol - essential mix prts 1 / 2 > >fsol - live in paris > >groove armada - dj set > >groove rider - essential mix > >ian pooley live at pfefferberg > >josh wink - essential mix > >kid koala & dj p-love - world dmc 2000 > >kid koala live in toronto > >kid koala - breezeblock set > >leftfield - essential mix > >leftfield - live at homelands > >luke vibert - live In toronto > >orbital - breezeblock set > >orbital - live in new york > >orbital - live in san francisco > >pete tong / timo maas - essential mix > >plump dj's @ ray-gun > >plump dj's live at love parade > >plump dj's live radio gig > >rabbit in the moon - live dj set > >riche hawtin - essential mix > >richie hawtin - mixmag live set > >squarepusher - live @ coachella 2001 > >the orb - breezeblock set > >tilt - essential mix > >underworld - essential mix > >underworld - live at euro club gig > >underworld - live in japan > >x-press2 - essential mix > > > >anyone interested in getting any of the files from my ftp, I will have >the > >info and ftp up and running in the next day or so.. > > > >any how just felt the need to share this info with ya'll. I am sure some > >of you will find something to your liking... > > > >p. > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > >------------- >To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com >with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. > > >------------- >To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com >with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LORIB4AKID@aol.com Subject: (mobility) my info Date: 24 May 2001 08:32:35 EDT Hey! I'm Heather Perne' from Toledo Ohio and I'm 19. My moby collection consists of Everything is Wrong, Animal Rights, I like to Score, the Go remix album, Play (of Course!) Play B sides, and Moby Songs. The first song I heard of Moby was Porcelain and I went to the concert in Detroit in October and I was hooked after that. I didn't know what to expect and was very pleasantly surprised. I hate it when I go to a concert or buy a cd and hate the majority of the songs! So after the concert I bought Play and Moby songs. I found out about the Area:One concert and bought tickets as soon as they went on sale, I'm already psyched and it's two months away!! I'm going to the one in Detroit, is anyone else going? Another artist I really like is Claude Challe who remixes a lot of international music. His cd Nirvana Lounge is awesome. I don't really know how to describe it other than relaxing and fun. I also like A Perfect Cirlce, Staind, and Incubus to name a few. Hmmm...interesting info....Moby rocks in concert! I love music, making jewelry, photography, and experimenting with cooking. ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Michael Bourke <cbourke1@bigred.unl.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) my info Date: 24 May 2001 15:52:20 -0500 > The first song I > heard of Moby was Porcelain and I went to the concert in Detroit in October > and I was hooked after that. Why is it that every neophyte moby fan and their little sisters can go to a fucking Moby concert and I, a loyal fan for 6 fucking years haven't been able to go to one in that entire time?!?!? Me = Fucking pissed and jealous. (BTW the reason I haven't been able to is the fact that I live in a very remote shit hole of the midwest. God I have to move out of this fucking state, this country in fact.). Chris ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Ellorin <TEllorin@mediabrains.com> Subject: RE: (mobility) my info Date: 24 May 2001 17:04:21 -0400 > Why is it that every neophyte moby fan and their little > sisters can go to a > fucking Moby concert and I, a loyal fan for 6 fucking years > haven't been > able to go to one in that entire time?!?!? Me = Fucking > pissed and jealous. > (BTW the reason I haven't been able to is the fact that I > live in a very > remote shit hole of the midwest. God I have to move out of > this fucking > state, this country in fact.). > > Chris Can we say "Bitter"? I think you may have some anger management issues. Deep breaths. Breathe in through the nose, out through the mouth. In with the good, out with the bad. ;^) Anyway, I too have yet to see him in concert, but I will sooner or later. Preferably sooner than later. Until then I will have to just listen to his albums. He needs to come to Florida soon since he had to cancel the one date in Florida. Tim ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mike e." <donkeymike@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) my info Date: 24 May 2001 14:31:09 -0700 (PDT) Jezum Crow!!! Is it the "neo-phytes" phault that you live in a "remote shit hole" in the Mid-West? EASY TIGER! Which remote shit hole is it? Most of them are close enough to drive somewhere he'd play... =^) > > Why is it that every neophyte moby fan and their > little sisters can go to a > fucking Moby concert and I, a loyal fan for 6 > fucking years haven't been > able to go to one in that entire time?!?!? Me = > Fucking pissed and jealous. > (BTW the reason I haven't been able to is the fact > that I live in a very > remote shit hole of the midwest. God I have to move > out of this fucking > state, this country in fact.). > > Chris > > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ===== "It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it." -Former US Vice President Dan Quayle __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Elissa Brown <elissabird@yahoo.com> Subject: (mobility) seeing gigs Date: 24 May 2001 14:36:27 -0700 (PDT) Chris wrote: > Why is it that every neophyte moby fan and their little sisters can go to a > fucking Moby concert and I, a loyal fan for 6 fucking years haven't been > able to go to one in that entire time?!?!? Me = Fucking pissed and jealous. > (BTW the reason I haven't been able to is the fact that I live in a very > remote shit hole of the midwest. God I have to move out of this fucking > state, this country in fact.). I feel your pain. And yeah, you do have to move. :-) I've been an Afghan Whigs fan for years, and because when they played they would play small venues with 18+, or they would play far away, I could never go and see them. And now, they've fuckin' broken up. Grrr. Should we start a Get Chris to a Moby Gig fund? Elissa __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LORIB4AKID@aol.com Subject: (mobility) so what shithole do you live in? Date: 24 May 2001 19:13:32 EDT Come on now, life isn't that bad is it? You are one pissed off Moby fan! But hey, I would be too if I were you. So where do you live? You could maybe take a bus to a concert if it's any cheaper. Why haven't you been able to go to one? Moving out of the country would definately be fun, maybe a third world country where you would be rich. weird thought. ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LORIB4AKID@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Chris needs to see Moby Date: 24 May 2001 19:18:25 EDT Yeah, We should start a send his ass to Area One show fund. I think those are probably the only shows he'll be doing for now because he got the whole thing together so good luck chris! Heather ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Michael Bourke <cbourke1@bigred.unl.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) so what shithole do you live in? Date: 24 May 2001 19:37:29 -0500 > Come on now, life isn't that bad is it? You are one pissed off Moby fan! > But hey, I would be too if I were you. So where do you live? You could > maybe take a bus to a concert if it's any cheaper. Why haven't you been able > to go to one? Moving out of the country would definately be fun, maybe a > third world country where you would be rich. weird thought. no no, no pity funds for me please. I live in Lincoln, NE 10 Hours away from Chicago by car (and no other "major city" like Denver or KS usually gets any of his venues.) The closest he has ever come was to Omaha about 2 years ago (1 hour away) on the MTV campus invasion tour. But low and behold, no tickets available through MTV or ticketmaster. I called the college (Creighton U.) they said it was free, but FOR STUDENTS ONLY. How fucking shitty is that I ask you? Where is the justice in this world when ignorant fucks who don't even know who he is and can't even begin to appreciate who they are seeing at some festival that they only went to to get high or drunk at?!?! This is why there can be no God people. As for moving out of the country, trust me, go to Malaysia. Actually work in Malaysia through a US company, that way that have to pay you a regular US salary in US dollars, but you get to spend it in dirt cheap Malaysia. Trust me, everything is 1/4 the cost or less. I could live like a king. Not only that, but you'd think such a place is a shit hole third world country, but its not, at least the good places like Kuala Lumpur, and even the shit holes have a unique flavor that is preferable to the cleanest corner in my town. If you wanna start a fund start a fund to get me back to Malaysia, or Japan, but that would require a hell of a lot more money. Better yet, just get on the line to Moby himself and tell him to play a venue here. He'd only have a few fans but he'd be very appreciated by them. Chris. ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" <power_hymn@hotmail.com> Subject: (mobility) Pablo's back! Date: 25 May 2001 16:00:18 According to joestrummer.co.uk, Pablo is rejoining Moby for the next tour. Pablo is an ace percussionist who really knows his beats. He's also got Greta, the lucky guy. I wonder if he'll ever do the industrial tribal music he wants to make. Steve _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Caetano78@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Pablo's back! Date: 25 May 2001 14:17:23 EDT --part1_ee.16114a10.283ffbb3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pablo is an excellent percussionist..i remember seeing him live with Moby at Irving Plaza (Eric, you were there also!) and they went on to do a little jam and it was wonderful to hear Pablo....life is sucking right now but God will provide...elie --part1_ee.16114a10.283ffbb3_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT COLOR="#004080" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Lucida Sans" LANG="0">Pablo is an excellent percussionist..i remember seeing him live with Moby at <BR>Irving Plaza (Eric, you were there also!) and they went on to do a little jam <BR>and it was wonderful to hear Pablo....life is sucking right now but God will <BR>provide...elie</FONT></HTML> --part1_ee.16114a10.283ffbb3_boundary-- ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LORIB4AKID@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Who is Pablo? Date: 25 May 2001 16:25:08 EDT Who is Pablo? ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" <power_hymn@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Who is Pablo? Date: 25 May 2001 21:13:06 He's a percussionist extraordinaire, in Moby's words. He does congas, bongos, and various other assorted rhythym instruments, specializing in hand drums. He's married to Greta, Moby's bass goddess, and he's a member of Joe Strummer's band, The Mescaleros. (Joe was the singer for the Clash by the way) Pablo toured with Moby before and he's touring with him again now, for Area One I assume. Steve Who is Pablo? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "crowes3" <crowes3@email.msn.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) just in case anyone cares... Date: 25 May 2001 22:17:35 -0700 Anarchy in the USA! I like it! A. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 3:15 AM > many moons ago, where I were little more than a spec of a fourteen year old > I went to see The Clash at The Rainbow in London. There were seats... until > the third song, by which time they had all been demolished. What a gig! A > year or so later I went to the same venue to see Siouxsie and the Banshees. > Same chairs, same result. Another amazing gig. Now, in both cases the > smashed chairs ended up being thrown towards the stage. Not at the band, but > in their direction. It was a respect thing. Just like spitting. Anyway, > given Moby's punk sensibilities, and in honor of Animal Rights, why don't > you all do the same. Makes moshing more fun and the scars will be > conversation openers for years to come. "How did you get that scar on your > face?" "Smashing up chairs at a Moby gig!" > > OK, so the reality will be more like: > "Hey, how did you get your piles?" > "From sitting on an uncomfortable chair at a Moby gig." > > Which story would you all prefer? > > Martin (in an anarchic mood) > > on 12/5/01 20:46, crowes3 at crowes3@email.msn.com wrote: > > > I am dancing no matter what! In Chicago, we got seats 29 rows back but if I > > have to move somewhere else to dance, I will. I was almost arrested (!) in > > St. Louis for getting out of my seat and moving to the floor at a Tom Petty > > show. I swear, they took me to a little room with cops and stuff and I > > tried to tell them I'd be good but they were really mean. My husband saved > > me. At least ther's a lawn a million miles away...Anne > > ----- Original Message ----- > >>> I ended up not buying tix, because I refuse to > >>> pay $72 PLUS an $8 handling fee to sit my ass > >>> in a chair and not be able to dance to all > >>> these amazing performers> > __________________________________________________ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "crowes3" <crowes3@email.msn.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Big Time Date: 25 May 2001 22:25:04 -0700 Thank you for an excellent essay. I agree with you on all points. Anne ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 3:47 PM > > I'm proud of Moby for taking his career to the next level. > > Here's how I look at it: There's good music, and bad music. Everybody has a > different opinion on which is which, and that's good. In my opinion, 90% or > more of sponsored music is bad. By sponsored, I mean music that has major > radio play, MTV backing, and exposure to the general public, not just music > fans. > > Moby has always had a lot to say. At one point Moby said that his music is > just a launching point for his ideals. At other times he has said that his > music and ideas are separate and should not affect each other. Whether > you've latched onto his intellectual experimentation* or not, you can't deny > that your primary reason for being here is his music. > > Music is Moby's career, and his life. When he was younger, his measure of > success was spreading his ideas to help build a world utopia, the carrier of > his message being music. Sounds far-fetched, doesn't it? Everybody wants to > make a difference and change the world into a better place. As Moby's grown > up, I think he's realized that one person can only do a certain amount, and > one person can only succeed where they are capable. Moby's personality is > not a politician, so he can't hope to covert America to vegetarianism, or to > stop using cars. That's like trying to stop the waves in the ocean with your > hands. Instead, he's making a difference in area that is very much his > department: music. > > As I wrote earlier, 90% of popular music is terrible, uninspired garbage > that is better described as 'product' than 'music', in my opinion. Moby's > campaign to become a famous and popular musician is seen by many to be a > contradiction of everything Moby stands for. But what, exactly, does Moby > stand for? As I stated before, above all else, Moby stands for music. In > order to bring not only his music, bit it's influence*, to a higher level, > Moby needed to become well-known and needed to increase his fan base. The > fact that Moby isn't an idealistic crusader anymore shows that he's matured, > and that he realizes that refusing to allow his music in car ads only > massages his own ego and doesn't help the environment any more than staying > on the sidewalk and off the grass. Back in the early 90's with Go, it was a > nice gesture, but futile. > > Moby's grown up and realized that the place he can make a difference in > people's lives is through music. He can make people happy, comfortable, or > exhilarated. He can show people that music can become more than the sum of > it's advertising. It doesn't have to be disposable, it doesn't have to be > plastic, and it doesn't have to fit the advertising mold of "it sold once, > copy it and sell it again." If Moby allows V2 to make 200* versions of Play, > but with V2's help gets his music into people's ears, I'd say that's quite a > victory. I'd say it's a good thing. > > > *1. When I refer to Moby's intellectual experimentation, I'm looking at how > he's frequently changed his mind, taken back statements, reduced the > extremeness of a viewpoint, or even just lied jokingly to the press. Moby > has never switched ideals, he's been mixing and matching them all along. If > you'll allow me an analogy, it's hard to point and say he sold out when he's > been trading his stocks in all along. > > *2. By Moby's influence, I'm talking about not only musical, but business > influence. Moby has proven an unusual marketing technique, and he's proven > that non-niche music is growing. More and more these days I see music that > cannot fit into a category. This is good news for listeners, bad news for > music companies. Instead of packaging Pearl Jam as Creed as Three Doors > Down, or Backstreet Boys as N'Sync as O-Town, as more time passes they'll > have to find new and original acts to keep to public interested. As > attention spans grow shorter, it takes more to stick out and be noticed. > Moby is not solely responsible for this emerging trend, but he has certainly > raised the bar one more notch. > > *3. For those of you angered by the multiple versions of Play, cut it out. > Nobody is asking you to buy the album twice. If you feel the compulsion to > own every version or every song, you need to stop and take a deep breath. If > you must have the B-sides, then sell your old copy and buy the new one. If > you resent to $10 or so you lost in the whole trading process, don't buy it. > If you really love that music so much that you must have the goodies and > extras, $10 or $15 more should make no difference to you. It's just a > choice, an option. It's really that simple. > > Thanks for following me this far. > > Steve > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike A7" <mikea7@provide.net> Subject: Re: (mobility) Pablo's back! Date: 26 May 2001 00:31:06 -0400 This is cool as hell! My first ever Moby concert was in the early days of the "Play" tour when he was still in the band (right after "Play" was released and hadn't taken off yet and Mobes was playing tiny clubs) and I was just as taken at Pablo's energy as Moby's. So this is GREAT news!!! MikeA ---------- > From: Caetano78@aol.com > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (mobility) Pablo's back! > Date: Friday, May 25, 2001 2:17 PM > Pablo is an excellent percussionist..i remember seeing him live with Moby at Irving Plaza (Eric, you were there also!) and they went on to do a little jam and it was wonderful to hear Pablo....life is sucking right now but God will provide...elie ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tecknomonk@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Who is Pablo? Date: 26 May 2001 01:32:12 EDT --part1_4e.168618ad.284099dc_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit wait. i think you're getting pablo and duard mixed up. duard's the guy married to greta right?!? In a message dated 5/25/01 5:13:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, power_hymn@hotmail.com writes: > He's a percussionist extraordinaire, in Moby's words. He does congas, > bongos, and various other assorted rhythym instruments, specializing in > hand > drums. He's married to Greta, Moby's bass goddess, and he's a member of Joe > Strummer's band, The Mescaleros. (Joe was the singer for the Clash by the > way) Pablo toured with Moby before and he's touring with him again now, for > Area One I assume. > --part1_4e.168618ad.284099dc_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2> <BR>wait. i think you're getting pablo and duard mixed up. duard's the guy <BR>married to greta right?!? <BR> <BR> <BR>In a message dated 5/25/01 5:13:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, <BR>power_hymn@hotmail.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">He's a percussionist extraordinaire, in Moby's words. He does congas, <BR>bongos, and various other assorted rhythym instruments, specializing in <BR>hand <BR>drums. He's married to Greta, Moby's bass goddess, and he's a member of Joe <BR>Strummer's band, The Mescaleros. (Joe was the singer for the Clash by the <BR>way) Pablo toured with Moby before and he's touring with him again now, for <BR>Area One I assume. <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR></FONT></HTML> --part1_4e.168618ad.284099dc_boundary-- ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Astroman64@aol.com Subject: (mobility) ot:ftp:!?! Date: 26 May 2001 04:11:38 EDT Did I miss something or has the FTP address changed? I had a copy of Pro Tools free I was going to try to upload. On an entirely different note. Anyone old enough to remember Pee Wee's Big Adventure coming out in the theaters?Well,if you do then you are officially old as in the middle of channel surfing I came across it playing on TCM (Turner Classic Movies).Are hearing aids and walkers in the foreseeable future? -ed random "look at the violence in the world now. I mean, most of the people going to church are the ones with all the guns." -Howard Zinn [historian] ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Michael Bourke <cbourke1@bigred.unl.edu> Subject: Re: (mobility) ot:ftp:!?! Date: 26 May 2001 04:12:31 -0500 > Did I miss something or has the FTP address changed? I had a copy of Pro > Tools free I was going to try to upload. On an entirely different note. If anyone missed it, again the IP address has changed. The FTP is: 129.93.206.63 I have no idea why some people have trouble sometimes. My friends keeps telling me that he can only get in half the time, traffic is really down, but trust me, people are still getting in. I don't know what to tell you guys, but if anyone has any suggestions please let me know. I'm using WarFTP. ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andy Allsop" <andy@midflight.com> Subject: (mobility) FS: Moby autographed set list + more Date: 28 May 2001 02:19:11 +0100 Hi fellow Moby fans, Thought you might be interested in this: For Sale - MOBY autographed set list + ticket + photos + more! http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1433802022 Cheers :) ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Logue <dlogue24@yahoo.com> Subject: (mobility) Autograph change? Date: 28 May 2001 10:05:18 -0700 (PDT) This sounds weird, but has anyone noticed that Moby's autograph changed? It used to be a distinct moby. But now it's the new squiggly autograph, but the cartoons have remained the same. Just thought that was weird. Sooooo glad Pablo's coming back, I really missed him this last leg of the tour. He has a wonderful energy. Who's going to the PNC artscenter for area:one? Please email me, let's meet up! Is everyone going to where their mobility tags? d -- Andy Allsop <andy@midflight.com> wrote: > Hi fellow Moby fans, > > Thought you might be interested in this: > > For Sale - MOBY autographed set list + ticket + > photos + more! > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1433802022 > > Cheers :) > > > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" <power_hymn@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Who is Pablo? Date: 29 May 2001 13:48:28 Sure is, thanks for the correction. Steve Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com wait. i think you're getting pablo and duard mixed up. duard's the guy married to greta right?!? In a message dated 5/25/01 5:13:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, power_hymn@hotmail.com writes: > He's a percussionist extraordinaire, in Moby's words. He does congas, > bongos, and various other assorted rhythym instruments, specializing in > hand > drums. He's married to Greta, Moby's bass goddess, and he's a member of Joe > Strummer's band, The Mescaleros. (Joe was the singer for the Clash by the > way) Pablo toured with Moby before and he's touring with him again now, for > Area One I assume. > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dj pagan <djpagan@yahoo.com> Subject: (mobility) Re: Big Time - a belated reply Date: 29 May 2001 07:25:02 -0700 (PDT) steve, i like to stop the kneejerk if i can. so, here's my reply. --- Steve Giles <power_hymn@hotmail.com> wrote: > I'm proud of Moby for taking his career to the > next level. i'm not, but why split hairs? ::smile:: > Here's how I look at it: There's good music, > and bad music. Everybody has a different > opinion on which is which, and that's good. In > my opinion, 90% or more of sponsored music is > bad. By sponsored, I mean music that has major > radio play, MTV backing, and exposure to the > general public, not just music fans. with you so far. > Moby has always had a lot to say. At one point > Moby said that his music is just a launching > point for his ideals. At other times he has > said that his music and ideas are separate and > should not affect each other. these two statements are not in opposition. he has said that his music and ideas are separate insofar that you might like his music and hate his ideas or vice versa. however, whether one likes his music or not upon purchasing the album, his ideas are still in there. it is still a launching point for ideals, even if people don't agree with them. > Whether you've latched onto his intellectual > experimentation* or not, you can't deny that > your primary reason for being here is his > music. i can deny that it's not *the* primary reason. i like moby as a person first, an entertainer later. this is a 'moby' listserv, not a 'moby music' listserv. i got into moby because of the music, but i grew to love the man, his ideas and ideals, and the message more than the music itself. a primary reason i'm here is the music, but not *the* primary music. > Music is Moby's career, and his life. When he > was younger, his measure of success was > spreading his ideas to help build a world > utopia, the carrier of his message being music. > Sounds far-fetched, doesn't it? Everybody wants > to make a difference and change the world into > a better place. here's the setup... > As Moby's grown up, I think he's realized that > one person can only do a certain amount, and > one person can only succeed where they are > capable. Moby's personality is not a > politician, so he can't hope to covert America > to vegetarianism, or to stop using cars. That's > like trying to stop the waves in the ocean with > your hands. Instead, he's making a difference > in area that is very much his department: music. i'll pass on whether your speculations as to moby's motivations are true or not. in either case, a hero falls. moby is not a politician, but he changes the lives of those he can, including me. a major reason for my being vegetarian is thanks to moby. a major reason for using cars less and less for me has to do with moby. it's not that he himself inspired me. it's that his ideas were there when i listened to the music, and i realized that the man had more to say. he was never trying to be a politician. however, when you start looking at his ideas and ideals, that which i fell into a platonic love for, and watch him promote the use of leather products, reinforce capitalist spending and non-conservation, and holding concerts that continue to keep people marginalized and away from the center, i get pissed off. i have a sneaking suspicion you are right about moby's attitude. if you are correct, then i pity the loss of his standards in favor of promoting a medium that has worked in small ways without compromise before. if you are not correct, then the only explanation i have for the current behavior is that it's all about the money from the beginning. the former stings a little less. > But what, exactly, does Moby stand for? As I > stated before, above all else, Moby stands for > music. In order to bring not only his music, > bit it's influence*, to a higher level, Moby > needed to become well-known and needed to > increase his fan base. moby does not just stand for music. i don't agree with the previous statement, so i can't agree with this. > The fact that Moby isn't an idealistic crusader > anymore shows that he's matured, and that he > realizes that refusing to allow his music in > car ads only massages his own ego and doesn't > help the environment any more than staying on > the sidewalk and off the grass. Back in the > early 90's with Go, it was a nice gesture, but > futile. bullshit. bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. it shows he's given up, and this hurts more than anything. those little rebellions make more sense to me than following the status quo because otherwise it would be futile. stopping the use of 'go' for car adverts was brilliant. now he's having his music used for nearly anything. it not about massaging his own ego. it's for making a statement, and it made its point. it's not maturity, it's giving up. > Moby's grown up and realized that the place he > can make a difference in people's lives is > through music. He can make people happy, > comfortable, or exhilarated. this is little consolation for a fan like myself. not a better or worse fan. just a fan who cares more about the ideas and ideals than the music. > He can show people that music can become more > than the sum of it's advertising. It doesn't > have to be disposable, it doesn't have to be > plastic, and it doesn't have to fit the > advertising mold of "it sold once, copy it and > sell it again." If Moby allows V2 to make 200* > versions of Play, but with V2's help gets his > music into people's ears, I'd say that's quite > a victory. I'd say it's a good thing. all this means is that moby has become the new mold for the advertising machine. it sold once. bring on the copycats that people will gobble up just as easily, heavily promote the new album from moby, and release it from one of the 'pioneers' of the music. please. v2 making 200 version of play, for me, cheapens it. i don't want to be exclusive, but it's gone from being music that's popular to being a fucking commodity. look at me, i have all 200 versions of play! did you get the uber-rare b-side version on the 163rd version, which only has four measures changed? all that you've done is reinforce my fears. if you are correct, then moby lost face for me. if you are not correct, then i can only hope for the worst, which make him lose more face for me. either way, i'm not consoled and i'm still angry. /djp ===== djpagan www.geocities.com/projectaristotle "it is enough." - immanuel kant, his last words __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Elissa Brown <elissabird@yahoo.com> Subject: (mobility) Re: FS: Moby autographed set list + more Date: 29 May 2001 08:37:45 -0700 (PDT) Andy wrote: > Hi fellow Moby fans, > > Thought you might be interested in this: > > For Sale - MOBY autographed set list + ticket + photos + more! > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1433802022 > > Cheers :) Andy, you crazy bastard! Hard up on cash? ;-) Oh.. I'm not sure if I saw this mentioned here or somewhere else, but the Play DVD is at Amazon for preorder. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005LE46/o/qid=991150573/sr=2-2/ref=aps_sr_d_2_1/104-1854656-0709523 Elissa __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" <power_hymn@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: Big Time - a belated reply Date: 29 May 2001 16:35:51 >From: dj pagan <djpagan@yahoo.com> >i like to stop the kneejerk if i can. so, here's >my reply. First of all, thanks for replying. >i can deny that it's not *the* primary reason. i >like moby as a person first, an entertainer >later. this is a 'moby' listserv, not a 'moby >music' listserv. i got into moby because of the >music, but i grew to love the man, his ideas and >ideals, and the message more than the music >itself. a primary reason i'm here is the music, >but not *the* primary music. So, all said and done, you're a fan of Moby's essays & etc. who happens to like his music, too. >i have a sneaking suspicion you are right about >moby's attitude. if you are correct, then i pity >the loss of his standards in favor of promoting a >medium that has worked in small ways without >compromise before. if you are not correct, then >the only explanation i have for the current >behavior is that it's all about the money from >the beginning. the former stings a little less. It has to be the former. To say it's always been about the money would be to... only allow yourself to view Moby with either rose or shit-tinted glasses. He doesn't have to be either an angel or a devil. Leave that kind of simple thinking to the teenagers. That good guy bad guy stuff is cartoon morality. (sorry teens) What you call loss of standards I call growing up. More on this next... >bullshit. bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. it >shows he's given up, and this hurts more than >anything. those little rebellions make more >sense to me than following the status quo because >otherwise it would be futile. stopping the use >of 'go' for car adverts was brilliant. now he's >having his music used for nearly anything. it >not about massaging his own ego. it's for making >a statement, and it made its point. it's not >maturity, it's giving up. How was the Go incident brilliant? Because it made a good point? Because he made a donation? Were there less car ads, or less cars, or a sudden flash of guilt from the public at large for polluting the environment and wasting resources because Moby clued them in? Did anything change? What difference was made? A few fans such as yourself identified with the sentiment. That's all. You say he's lost his standards. I'd say he's stopped farting into the wind. What you call noble I call futile. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you like those "little rebellions" because he showed that he cares, even if it was futile. I can see why you think he doesn't care anymore, because he doesn't show it. That doesn't mean that he doesn't care anymore, necessarily. >not about massaging his own ego. it's for making >a statement, and it made its point. it's not >maturity, it's giving up. Okay, he made a statement, and a point. I ask, what difference did he make? Tell me the answer, and tell me how you think Moby felt when he realized it. >this is little consolation for a fan like myself. >not a better or worse fan. just a fan who cares >more about the ideas and ideals than the music. This goes back to what I said about being a politician. In Moby's case, he was a sort of activist. If he was more than just angry about the world, he could've organized boycotts against car manufacturers, started vegan activism and literature distribution groups, or any number of things that would actively protest and take action in favor of the ideals in question. Instead, we got whining about it. His points were excellent, his essays were dead on, but ultimately, he wasn't doing something about it, he was just making noise. Making noise has always been Moby's stock in trade. You said yourself that the ideals inspired you. I think you're shooting the messenger. Instead of condemning what Moby is doing, why not ask why? Do you think that he would just drop everything and say fuck it? I don't. I can see what happened very clearly, because it's happened to me, too. Moby's realized that yelling (making statements and points) about problems doesn't solve them. He's realized that he's fighting a losing battle that he's not even fighting, just being more of an football announcer of the plays. Moby used to get slammed for being a pious judgemental bigmouth. That's because of the old 'put up or shut up' maxim. He wouldn't do either. If nixing Go in a car advert, then subverting the whole thing by way of charity was 'putting up', well, that ain't much. Like I said earlier, it made no difference on any visible scale. It was just noise. >all this means is that moby has become the new >mold for the advertising machine. it sold once. >bring on the copycats that people will gobble up >just as easily, heavily promote the new album >from moby, and release it from one of the >'pioneers' of the music. please. v2 making 200 >version of play, for me, cheapens it. i don't >want to be exclusive, but it's gone from being >music that's popular to being a fucking >commodity. look at me, i have all 200 versions >of play! did you get the uber-rare b-side >version on the 163rd version, which only has four >measures changed? Sure, Moby will be copied. They'll copy anything that sells. But, it won't work. Moby has upped the power of unpredictability & uniqueness. Since you care about the ideals more that the music, the packaging is more important than the music to you. What I don't understand is how reselling Play makes Moby a sellout in your eyes. Why does anybody need more than one copy? Anybody who feels compelled to own them all is ripping himself off and has a personal problem with obsessive collectability. Other versions are just choices. >all that you've done is reinforce my fears. if >you are correct, then moby lost face for me. if >you are not correct, then i can only hope for the >worst, which make him lose more face for me. >either way, i'm not consoled and i'm still angry. >/djp What do you want from Moby, anyways? Steve _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mike e." <donkeymike@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: Big Time - a belated reply Date: 29 May 2001 10:13:27 -0700 (PDT) and i'm still angry. > > /djp > > ===== > djpagan ..................................................... so, where does that anger get you? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJ Paul Simpson <techno_gpig@yahoo.com> Subject: (mobility) pablo Date: 29 May 2001 10:18:19 -0700 (PDT) speaking of pablo, where is keiichi?!?? (he used to call me pablo ;) rhimez pir beatz, DJ PAUL ===== "Computer games don't affect kids; if Pac-man had affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DJ PAUL, host of Chester's Blanket Fort, 89.5 FM/wpkn.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dj pagan <djpagan@yahoo.com> Subject: (mobility) steve v. pagan - round 2 Date: 29 May 2001 13:27:57 -0700 (PDT) --- Steve Giles <power_hymn@hotmail.com> wrote: > First of all, thanks for replying. no, no... thank *you*! ::smile:: > So, all said and done, you're a fan of Moby's > essays & etc. who happens to like his music, > too. i think both together make moby the moby that i love. or used to love as it's turning. > It has to be the former. To say it's always > been about the money would be to... only allow > yourself to view Moby with either rose or > shit-tinted glasses. He doesn't have to be > either an angel or a devil. Leave that kind of > simple thinking to the teenagers. That good guy > bad guy stuff is cartoon morality. (sorry teens) that's why i have to agree with you about the new tract of moby. i can't see him being all about the money all of a sudden, but it's amazing that other bands have come out all anti this and that and end up selling records for a business ::coughcoughrageagainstthemachinecoughcough:: > What you call loss of standards I call growing > up. More on this next... i think they are both. i want to live in my idealistic never never land because the more people believe that what they are doing is futile, futile it will remain. more below... > How was the Go incident brilliant? Because it > made a good point? Because he made a donation? > Were there less car ads, or less cars, or a > sudden flash of guilt from the public at large > for polluting the environment and wasting > resources because Moby clued them in? Did > anything change? What difference was made? A > few fans such as yourself identified with the > sentiment. That's all. but that's what drew me to moby. i found it brilliant because instead of being bought of with royalties from advertising, he made a serious statement both against cars and against the exploitation by record companies of his music. i equate this kind of behavior with other small steps in history that lead to change. though not even close to being on the same scale, rosa parks said 'no' that day on the bus when asked to move. did sweeping change happen from that? not right away, but people heard the call and started to come together. however, if ms. parks decided to go back to being a poor black woman, subjugating herself to the white man, that deals a crushing blow. what's worse with moby is that he's making the conscious decision, without pressure, of doing this. > You say he's lost his standards. I'd say he's > stopped farting into the wind. What you call > noble I call futile. nobility is often futile. that's what makes it noble. nobility doesn't compromise unless some greater good is coming from it. > Correct me if I'm wrong, but you like those > "little rebellions" because he showed that he > cares, even if it was futile. I can see why you > think he doesn't care anymore, because he > doesn't show it. That doesn't mean that he > doesn't care anymore, necessarily. moby was an activist. it's hard to be an activist without 'acting'. i like those little rebellions because he refused to be constructed the way record companies and society at large wanted to do so. that's wonderful, in my humble opinion. it was a form of activism. it made a statement. it wasn't the person sitting in their home complaining about all the 'gosh darn pollution' and 'money grubbing bastards' out in the world. in his own way, he did something about it that made damn sure that he and everyone else knew what was going on. > Okay, he made a statement, and a point. I ask, > what difference did he make? > > Tell me the answer, and tell me how you think > Moby felt when he realized it. it changed the way people perceived him. it changed the way i perceived him. in doing so, it changed the way i perceive myself. if moby was looking for immediate reductions in the use of cars, pollution, etc... then he was/is a fool. but it did make a little progress. not noticeable, but enough. one act doesn't change things. a lifetime of acts at least shows you tried instead of not standing by your ideas and ideals. i don't know how moby felt. maybe disappointed. maybe frustrated. maybe he just got a good laugh at sticking it to the man. do you really think he got all bent out of shape? that he spiralled into some resentment and abnegation? i don't think so. > This goes back to what I said about being a > politician. In Moby's case, he was a sort of > activist. If he was more than just angry about > the world, he could've organized boycotts > against car manufacturers, started vegan > activism and literature distribution groups, or > any number of things that would actively > protest and take action in favor of the ideals > in question. the enigma of moby is that he wants to make changes both on the microscopic and the macroscopic level, but doesn't want to hurt anyone's feelings in the process. he speaks out against trends, not people. i think the type of activism that you are talking about would hurt people directly, and moby is not that kind of person (since we're being speculative). he can't do that, so we get what you call... > whining about it. His points were excellent, > his essays were dead on, but ultimately, he > wasn't doing something about it, he was just > making noise. Making noise has always been > Moby's stock in trade. that's what i liked, though. something above the average techno producer who comes out of a coke zone long enough to put out another dubplate. someone who was willing to put political views with his career on the line, not for a fashionable way, but to honestly try to change things. in his own pacifist way. > You said yourself that the ideals inspired you. > I think you're shooting the messenger. i wouldn't have shot the messenger four years ago when i finished relishing animal rights and began to delve into i like to score. i'm not just shooting the messenger now. i'm riddling him with bullets. > Instead of condemning what Moby is doing, why > not ask why? Do you think that he would just > drop everything and say fuck it? I don't. I can > see what happened very clearly, because it's > happened to me, too. Moby's realized that > yelling (making statements and points) about > problems doesn't solve them. He's realized > that he's fighting a losing battle that he's > not even fighting, just being more of an > football announcer of the plays. i did ask why. i'm not satisfied with the answers. i understand the answers, but i'm not satisfied with them in the least bit. i think he's finally succumbed to the record industry, even though he moved to an independent label. he's being chewed up, digested, and will be shit out with the next trend. he'll touch no one. you say a few fans came away with something from moby. what makes you think on a greater scale the number will be the same? i don't think he's realized anything. his pacifism and his pocketbook are doing very well right now. > Moby used to get slammed for being a pious > judgemental bigmouth. That's because of the > old 'put up or shut up' maxim. He wouldn't do > either. If nixing Go in a car advert, then > subverting the whole thing by way of charity > was 'putting up', well, that ain't much. Like I > said earlier, it made no difference on any > visible scale. It was just noise. it was a start, not just noise. i miss the pious judgmental bigmouth. it was activism at it's best. > Sure, Moby will be copied. They'll copy > anything that sells. But, it won't work. Moby > has upped the power of unpredictability & > uniqueness. you underestimate the machine. moby copycats will be abound. even worse, they'll grab the 'next big thing' from the dance industry. good lord. > Since you care about the ideals more that the > music, the packaging is more important than > the music to you. What I don't understand is > how reselling Play makes Moby a sellout in your > eyes. Why does anybody need more than one copy? > Anybody who feels compelled to own them all is > ripping himself off and has a personal problem > with obsessive collectability. Other versions > are just choices. i'm a completist in that sense, and i admit that no one is forcing me to buy different versions of play as they come out. (the limited leather play pouch one is still making me giggle) it's when the one or two tracks come out new on the repackaged format. i get upset when versions abroad have 'limited bonus tracks'. what i'm seeing is a way of preying upon those who genuinely love moby enough to collect with him. what if those extra tracks are wonderful enough to purchase an entire cd for it? i haven't been disappointed by the music in the least bit. it's been the marketing, the advert selling, the disgusting prices of tours, etc. > What do you want from Moby, anyways? i don't want anything from moby. it's not my place to say what he should or should not do. what i'd like to see is what i'd like to see from anyone - a strict adherance to what they value and hold dear. being vegan, anti-establishment, anti-fundamentalist, etc... is not something one can passively do for themselves. the man i admired no longer holds to his principles. even obvious ones. i want nothing more from moby than what i want from any human being. it hurts more because he was a role model for me, and now he's slowly slipping from that position. more every day. /djp ===== djpagan www.geocities.com/projectaristotle "it is enough." - immanuel kant, his last words __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mike e." <donkeymike@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) pablo Date: 29 May 2001 13:41:58 -0700 (PDT) Don't know where keiichi is but can you please tell me where that quote came from, the one under yer name, ya know, the "signature".... --- DJ Paul Simpson <techno_gpig@yahoo.com> wrote: > speaking of pablo, where is keiichi?!?? (he used to > call me pablo ;) > > > rhimez pir beatz, > DJ PAUL > > ===== > "Computer games don't affect kids; if Pac-man had > affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in > darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening > to repetitive electronic music." > ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > DJ PAUL, host of Chester's Blanket Fort, 89.5 > FM/wpkn.org > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great > prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > ------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to > majordomo@xmission.com > with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Ellorin <TEllorin@mediabrains.com> Subject: (mobility) Mody Activist? Date: 29 May 2001 17:42:44 -0400 Just a quick little thought. As I am sitting here reading this little Debate between Dj Pagan and Steve Giles which I find both points of view interesting. I am reminded how during the Presidential Elections Moby was being Blasted for openly expressing his points of view on the whole Ralph Nader thing. I am not accusing anyone of anything, but he got a lot of flack from pretty much everyone. People on this list especially were critical of his speaking his mind. So why should he keep speaking his mind when his own "Fans" are downing him for openly expressing his opinions. The same people who think "Wow it is so cool!" that Moby expresses his points of view in essays and things, get mad when he says something that they don't agree with. It's a catch 22. He now cannot do anything that he isn't getting criticized for. So maybe he is thinking that he should let people focus on his music instead of them being sidetracked by his ideals. I don't know. That is just my opinion. Could be right, could be wrong. Tim ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" <power_hymn@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) steve v. pagan - round 2 Date: 29 May 2001 21:52:04 You know, I really look up to those futile gestures, too. Nobility in the face of adversity is a great quality that should be admired. I suppose the reason I don't mind Moby moving away from his activist leanings and towards being a careerist musician is because it reminds me of myself. If I can't forgive him, where would I be? I won't hold him to a higher standard than my own. I don't think that Moby has given up on his beliefs, just changed the way he handles them. I'm not aware whether Moby's an active philanthropist, but wouldn't it make sense for him to donate money to causes like PETA? Wouldn't that make a bigger difference than asides in interviews or essays in liner notes? I know that's hypothetical and impossible to determine, but my point is that there are other ways to do it. Before, he was alienating people in droves, which gave him that reputation. Now he's drawing them in. Perhaps he's building an audience to increase exposure to his ideas, and intends to limit them in liner notes. After all, there was always compromise, what with his CDs being made from plastic and paper. All that's changed is the degree of compromise. To say Moby's sold out now would require you to place relative values on what he's done over his career. I'm guessing most people who say he's sold out would have one that looked like this: Plastic CDs and cases (factories and manufacturing and recycling issues) OK Paper liner notes, promo sheets, etc.(treecutting, poisonous inks, etc.) OK The occasional beer or his pair of leather shoes OK His studio (manufactured in Korea, made from plastic from polluting factories, etc.) OK His music in ads NOT OK Expensive tickets for concerts* NOT OK Personally, I refuse to draw a line on iffy things. If he went out and endorsed Ford, I'd be a bit bothered, but right now he's just selling them a product, his music. (yes I know, I said product) Let's look at the train of events that led to V2's marketing campaign. Moby and Elektra split, and I'm not sure whether he quit them, they dropped him, or it was mutual. What I do know is that Moby was very unhappy with his support there, which was a lack of support, really. Weak or no advertising, no signifigant radio push, and the only semi-successful release was a radio-only single for James Bond, which was provided merely because it could piggyback with the James Bond movie promotion. When V2 came around, Moby was shopping for a record company that would support him marketing-wise, and give him creative freedom. He's taken a lot of heat for his Animal Rights about face from Elektra, they wanted another Everything Is Wrong. Somebody named Sylvia or Rhonda at Elektra treated him like shit as I recall. When Moby signed with V2, he was an underground, unknown artist. The best contract before him from the different record companies was V2's, which allowed him complete control of his music, and provided him with an unusual untested form of viral stealth marketing. In the case that he got huge, they'd be allowed to do all sorts of fancy stuff and so on. Moby has said himself he never expected the popularity he's slowly achieved, so I don't think he figured on quite all of this, although he was certainly aware of the possibility. From the get-go, the only ideal that he gave in on was advertising, which was the form of marketing support provided. I'm not going to try and change your mind, because I respsect your opinion, but maybe you'd be less disappointed in Moby if you thought that he wasn't trying for all this hoohah, he just wanted freedom, and he got knocked over the head by poularity and found himself in a position where unexpected obligations to V2 now had to be fulfilled. Just an idea. I'm guessing my way through how things happened, but it sound pretty close to me. *if Moby wants to do a large scale tour, he needs a sponsor to cover expenses to get it going. A sort of venture capital arrangement. He may not be able to have a tour at all without those ticket prices. (a tour on that scale, I mean, we already know he can do small ones cheaply) I hope I provided some good stuff for you to play with. I discovered new things just writing it. Steve _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" <power_hymn@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Mody Activist? Date: 29 May 2001 22:07:49 >>I am reminded how during the Presidential Elections Moby was being Blasted for openly expressing his points of view on the whole Ralph Nader thing. I am not accusing anyone of anything, but he got a lot of flack from pretty much everyone. People on this list especially were critical of his speaking his mind. So why should he keep speaking his mind when his own "Fans" are downing him for openly expressing his opinions.<< I was certainly the loudest of us in my disagreement with Moby over the Nader issue. I think you need to recognize the difference between criticizing Moby, and criticizing his point of view. Debate is healthy and should be encouraged. Slander is juvenile and accomplishes nothing. I find it interesting that I voted for Nader, who falls into the noble/futile category, and Moby voted for Gore, who falls into the "let's do the best with what we've got" category. A lot of my defense of Moby could be equally applied to Gore voters who wanted to vote Green but didn't want to "waste" their votes. We'll not get into political squabbles again, but it's interesting I fell into the category that would say "It's not futile it just takes time, effort, momentum, and information." Which, I think, is pretty much what pagan is saying about Moby's past efforts, and the root of his disappointed is Moby finally giving up. I understand, and that's why I can't say pagan's wrong. He isn't. I just choose not to be bothered by Moby's change because his ideas were never that important to me, as much as I agreed with them. I mean, how can I be disappointed in Moby for selling his song to a car advert when he supported Gore, who comes across as environmentalist but isn't, when you scour his record? How come Moby isn't helping build a 3rd party where he'll be listened to instead of pandered to, as Gore does? A place where campaign promises are fought to be kept, and where the politican reports his progress instead of soundbyting? There's no communication between the people and the power anymore, it's between the power and the money, and so long as it stays that way, nothing Moby has dreamed of will come to pass. This issue is too big for now, anyways. My point is that Moby's ideals have always been compromised. To be disappointed in him is to realize only the more obvious compromises. I'm noisy today. Goddamn. Steve _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "CDNOCAR1" <j.vaneyck@chello.nl> Subject: (mobility) Re: Big Time - a belated reply Date: 30 May 2001 07:20:03 +0200 Steve wrote: >It has to be the former. To say it's always been about the money would be >to... only allow yourself to view Moby with either rose or bla bla blablabl Common Steve, it seems you're just replying to make a sport out of disagreeing with mr. Pagan. Can't you even try to immagine how it's like to think differently? I bet if Moby were a street prostitute-killing asshole with a nasty drug habbit, you would be able to justify it all with one e-mail to Mobility. >What you call loss of standards I call growing up. More on this next... Because killing prostitutes and doing a lot of drugs is all part of "growing up", right? (whooo, I love pulling things out of their context, heehee :) >What you call noble I call futile. What you call futile I call noble. >I can see why you think he doesn't care anymore, because he doesn't show it. >That doesn't mean that he doesn't care anymore, necessarily. Yeah right, if you start ignoring and stop talking your wife, it doesn't *necessarily* mean you don't love her any more, does it? Bart just for old time's sake: THE ORIGINAL GO (31:41) [Sep 1994] UK CD, Mute, CDNOCAR1 1 6:31 Go (Woodtick Mix) 2 6:07 Go (Delirium Mix) 3 6:04 Go (Arpathoski Mix) 4 5:32 Go (Amphetamix) 5 7:19 Go (In Dub Mix) The piece of text under the NO-CAR sign says: ============================================= A CAR ADVERT BROADCAST EARLIER THIS YEAR RECREATED THE MUSIC TO THE MOBY SONG "GO". MANY PEOPLE THOUGHT IT WAS MOBY'S MUSIC. THIS IS NOT THE CASE. WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT MOBY'S MUSIC WAS NOT USED. MOBY HAS NOT BEEN AND IS NOT INVOLVED WITH THIS COMMERCIAL AND HAS NOT RECEIVED MONEY FROM IT. HAD MOBY BEEN ASKED TO USE "GO" HE WOULD HAVE REFUSED ON THE GROUNDS THAT HE WOULD NOT LET HIS SONGS BE USED TO SELL CARS. "GO" IS AVAILABLE AGAIN TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT. THIS SINGLE IS AVAILABLE AT A LOWER PRICE THAN USUAL. ALL MOBY'S ROYALTIES FROM THE SINGLE WILL GO TO THE CHARITY TRANSPORT 2000 TEL: 081 388 8386. ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "z | 2 | 4 | 2 |" <zig242@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: Big Time - a belated reply Date: 30 May 2001 00:01:48 -0700 the -Amphetamix- is super cooooooooool! :o) gotta love it, Z!~ >just for old time's sake: > >THE ORIGINAL GO (31:41) [Sep 1994] >UK CD, Mute, CDNOCAR1 > > 1 6:31 Go (Woodtick Mix) > 2 6:07 Go (Delirium Mix) > 3 6:04 Go (Arpathoski Mix) > 4 5:32 Go (Amphetamix) > 5 7:19 Go (In Dub Mix) > >The piece of text under the NO-CAR sign says: >============================================= >A CAR ADVERT BROADCAST EARLIER THIS YEAR RECREATED THE MUSIC TO THE MOBY >SONG "GO". MANY PEOPLE THOUGHT IT WAS MOBY'S MUSIC. THIS IS NOT THE CASE. >WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT MOBY'S MUSIC WAS NOT USED. MOBY HAS >NOT BEEN AND IS NOT INVOLVED WITH THIS COMMERCIAL AND HAS NOT RECEIVED >MONEY FROM IT. HAD MOBY BEEN ASKED TO USE "GO" HE WOULD HAVE REFUSED ON >THE GROUNDS THAT HE WOULD NOT LET HIS SONGS BE USED TO SELL CARS. "GO" IS >AVAILABLE AGAIN TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT. THIS SINGLE IS AVAILABLE AT >A LOWER PRICE THAN USUAL. ALL MOBY'S ROYALTIES FROM THE SINGLE WILL GO TO >THE CHARITY TRANSPORT 2000 TEL: 081 388 8386. > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" <power_hymn@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: Big Time - a belated reply Date: 30 May 2001 13:36:50 >>>Common Steve, it seems you're just replying to make a sport out of disagreeing with mr. Pagan. Can't you even try to immagine how it's like to think differently? I bet if Moby were a street prostitute-killing asshole with a nasty drug habbit, you would be able to justify it all with one e-mail to Mobility. <<< Hey Bart, how are you? You just illustrated my points exactly. Moby does think differently now, obviously. My point is that he isn't a whore-killer. He didn't just change sides from the good guys top the bad guys. I think people oversimplify and fail to look deeply when they say NOW he's sold out. His life has always been clashing with his principles and it's only a matter of degree of how much. >>Yeah right, if you start ignoring and stop talking your wife, it doesn't *necessarily* mean you don't love her any more, does it?<< No, it doesn't. Would you let the neighbors be the judge of the man and wife? No, they aren't in the house and don't know what going on in there. We're the neighbors. I was using hypotheticals to make people try to figure out what's going on in Moby's head, and to try to look at the issue in more than simple black and white, good or bad. Steve _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dj pagan <djpagan@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) Mody Activist? Date: 30 May 2001 07:46:01 -0700 (PDT) this is probably some of the best conversation on the list. i'm glad this is happening. tim, --- Tim Ellorin <TEllorin@mediabrains.com> wrote: > I am not accusing anyone of anything, but he > got a lot of flack from pretty much everyone. > People on this list especially were critical of > his speaking his mind. So why should he keep > speaking his mind when his own "Fans" are > downing him for openly expressing his > opinions. The same people who think "Wow it is > so cool!" that Moby expresses his points of > view in essays and things, get mad when he says > something that they don't agree with. It's a > catch 22. He now cannot do anything that he > isn't getting criticized for. there are two actions being judged by myself when moby states anything with ideals: (1) the fact that he is stating something (2) what he is saying i applaud his use of (1) even if i don't agree with (2). that being said, i'm glad he is giving a different point of view that could change the world for the better, even though sometimes the things he says i don't agree with. moreover, why should he care if there are dissenters to his ideals. he has stated that his music and ideals are separate. if you don't like the ideals, you'll probably like the music. vice versa. he has nothing to lose and everything to gain by being outspoken as long as he keeps this distinction. the two haven't conflicted too badly until 'play'. > So maybe he is thinking that he should let > people focus on his music instead of them being > sidetracked by his ideals. he was able to do both in the past, which is part of my fandom. when the two conflict, or one is put to the wayside, moby has changed in ways that i find disturbing in the role model sense. on to steve's reply... again, this is good dialogue. keep it coming. /djp ===== djpagan www.geocities.com/projectaristotle "it is enough." - immanuel kant, his last words __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dj pagan <djpagan@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) steve v. pagan - round 2 Date: 30 May 2001 08:14:20 -0700 (PDT) --- Steve Giles <power_hymn@hotmail.com> wrote: > You know, I really look up to those futile > gestures, too. Nobility in the face of > adversity is a great quality that should be > admired. I suppose the reason I don't mind > Moby moving away from his activist leanings > and towards being a careerist musician is > because it reminds me of myself. If I can't > forgive him, where would I be? I won't hold him > to a higher standard than my own. there's always room for change, steve! ::smile:: > I don't think that Moby has given up on his > beliefs, just changed the way he handles them. > I'm not aware whether Moby's an active > philanthropist, but wouldn't it make sense for > him to donate money to causes like PETA? > Wouldn't that make a bigger difference than > asides in interviews or essays in liner notes? > I know that's hypothetical and impossible to > determine, but my point is that there are other > ways to do it. why can't he do both? donate money and promote groups like peta? you sound as if he's trading one for the other. i don't buy it. > Before, he was alienating people in droves, > which gave him that reputation. Now he's > drawing them in. Perhaps he's building an > audience to increase exposure to his ideas, and > intends to limit them in liner notes. i don't think that's it at all. ever since everything is wrong, he's been increasing essays in his linear notes. i think this is great, though most people don't even crack the cover of the disc. i don't think he's building an audience to try and get his ideas out. not with everything he's stepping on to get there. > After all, there was always compromise, what > with his CDs being made from plastic and paper. > All that's changed is the degree of compromise. > To say Moby's sold out now would require you to > place relative values on what he's done over his > career. there comes a certain degree of compromise that i can no longer agree with, though. that kind of compromise is where i have to draw the line and start to question things. i think moby is rapidly approaching that level. > I'm guessing most people who say he's sold out > would have one that looked like this: <snip list> there is a difference to what you are laying out, and what is necessary to do what he wants to do. he said that his life is a contradiction, in that he wants to be an activist, but he's a musician that needs to use plastic, paper, etc... for entertainment purposes. anyone who takes on an approach that goes contrary to popular belief has to necessarily be a hypocrite this was discussed on the ninjatune boards a while back when i still lurked. i want to be a vegetarian. this means that i will not eat things from an animal nor use animal products that involve the killing of an animal in some way. gelatin, leather, fat, etc... all out for me. however, there comes a time when i will have to necessarily be a hypocrite. for example, if a police officer is to carry a gun, they need a leather strap. if i'm buying dinner for people, they may order meat. there is a certain amount of compromise that i have to make that is necessary to get along. take moby and music. in order to be a musician, he has to necessarily waste paper and plastic and sand to create cds for people to listen to. he also has to use gas to tour. he has to allow the venues to serve hot dogs. he has to compromise at some point and thus be viewed as a hypocrite. if he started to endorse ford, i with you and say that's crossing the line. but if he's allowing them to use his music, it is a form of support... one he has control over. <snip moby move to v2 monologue> he did let go of that ideal, though. advertisting is good. the advertising for 'play' is outrageous, overdone, and has caused him to falter on many, many points in a short amount of time. he did need more exposure above the none he was getting beforehand. he did not need to be made an mtv spectacle and a radio hero, though. > I'm not going to try and change your mind, > because I respsect your opinion, but maybe > you'd be less disappointed in Moby if you > thought that he wasn't trying for all this > hoohah, he just wanted freedom, and he got > knocked over the head by poularity and found > himself in a position where unexpected > obligations to V2 now had to be fulfilled. Just > an idea. I'm guessing my way through how things > happened, but it sound pretty close to me. unexpected obligations? oh, what i wouldn't give to see the v2 contract. that kind of mass advertising had to give him some pause for thought. even a contract modification. i hope he's not locked into this kind of mass marketing/media approach for the rest of his years at v2. it would be disappointing seeing him plastered everywhere, your own personal jesus to support with your contributions to the record store. halleluah! > I hope I provided some good stuff for you to > play with. I discovered new things just writing > it. it's some of the best dialogue on the listserv in a long time. i applaud this. /djp ===== djpagan www.geocities.com/projectaristotle "it is enough." - immanuel kant, his last words __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mike e." <donkeymike@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) steve v. pagan - round 2 Date: 30 May 2001 08:52:01 -0700 (PDT) > Let's look at the train of events that led to V2's > marketing campaign. Moby > and Elektra split, and I'm not sure whether he quit > them, they dropped him, > or it was mutual. What I do know is that Moby was > very unhappy with his > support there, which was a lack of support, really. > Weak or no advertising, > no signifigant radio push, and the only > semi-successful release was a > radio-only single for James Bond, which was provided > merely because it could > piggyback with the James Bond movie promotion. When > V2 came around, Moby was > shopping for a record company that would support him > marketing-wise, and > give him creative freedom. He's taken a lot of heat > for his Animal Rights > about face from Elektra, they wanted another > Everything Is Wrong. Somebody > named Sylvia or Rhonda at Elektra treated him like > shit as I recall. When > Moby signed with V2, he was an underground, unknown > artist. The best > contract before him from the different record > companies was V2's, which > allowed him complete control of his music, and > provided him with an unusual > untested form of viral stealth marketing. In the > case that he got huge, > they'd be allowed to do all sorts of fancy stuff and > so on. Moby has said > himself he never expected the popularity he's slowly > achieved, so I don't > think he figured on quite all of this, although he > was certainly aware of > the possibility. From the get-go, the only ideal > that he gave in on was > advertising, which was the form of marketing support > provided. ......... These are valid points that you (we) all have to consider. Does anyone think Moby thought he would be this huge? I'm still amazed. Hell...he was one of four candidates for some stupid award recently, based on sales i believe. The other candidates were Ricky Martin, Sting and, uh...frick I forgot, but it was some guy more along the lines of RM and Sting. Moby in the same award category as those types is absolutely hysterical! I'm sure he is flabbergasted by it, especially since it's based on sales. It's all a very strange thing, and how could anyone predict that? If you had told him or anyone that he'd be in the running with those types, we'd all have a big guhfaw!!! m. =) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" <power_hymn@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: (mobility) steve v. pagan - round 2 Date: 30 May 2001 15:54:20 >From: dj pagan <djpagan@yahoo.com> >why can't he do both? donate money and promote >groups like peta? you sound as if he's trading >one for the other. i don't buy it. I can't place relative values on which is more important to (insert cause here), money or promotion. I don't even know which he's doing. As of Play (1999) he had essays. Since I don't know where Moby's at now, I can't offer an opinion here. His current contradiction with the car ad situation doesn't bother me just like his paper and plastic manufacturing doesn't. Do you think it's the action that bothers you, (allowing music in car ads), or that Moby said before that he would never do it and changed his mind? >i don't think that's it at all. ever since >everything is wrong, he's been increasing essays >in his linear notes. i think this is great, >though most people don't even crack the cover of >the disc. i don't think he's building an >audience to try and get his ideas out. not with >everything he's stepping on to get there. Which situation do you think is better: Moby stayed as pure as possible, did not do car ads, no mtv, and no big concerts, and got his messages out to a few people. Moby allowed car ads, mtv, and big concerts, but loosened up on his strict policies against (insert sellout transgression here). He gets his message out to a lot of people. >there comes a certain degree of compromise that i >can no longer agree with, though. that kind of >compromise is where i have to draw the line and >start to question things. i think moby is >rapidly approaching that level. My line is a big wobbly thing that makes a circle. Or something like that. So many tangents and ramifications.... >he has to compromise >at some point and thus be viewed as a hypocrite. >if he started to endorse ford, i with you and say >that's crossing the line. but if he's allowing >them to use his music, it is a form of support... >one he has control over. Isn't using tour busses a form of support? I don't think it's support, I think it's just condoning. Allowing a concession, if you will. Both are different small evils in reach of a greater good. If you reply to that with "the road to hell is paved with good intentions", I would refer you back to the paper and plastic concessions. I guess what our discussion is coming down to is this: Of all the things Moby has done as a musician, which ones are acceptable hypocrisies and which are not? And why? >he did not need to be >made an mtv spectacle and a radio hero, though. What's wrong with that? That bland soup of mtv needs a little salt. He's surrounded by crap and a crap machine, yes, but I'd like to think that he'll rub off on them and not vice versa. We can't really tell until his next album shows, but I have faith in Moby's musical integrity. >unexpected obligations? oh, what i wouldn't give >to see the v2 contract. that kind of mass >advertising had to give him some pause for >thought. even a contract modification. i hope >he's not locked into this kind of mass >marketing/media approach for the rest of his >years at v2. it would be disappointing seeing >him plastered everywhere, your own personal jesus >to support with your contributions to the record >store. halleluah! Well, he is a little idiot. :) I think he's got a better deal at V2 than he did at Elektra, but I'm sure he had to give a little to take a little. >it's some of the best dialogue on the listserv in >a long time. i applaud this. Definitely. Feel free to chime in, people. Steve _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: IndieRockerGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Mody Activist? Date: 30 May 2001 12:31:21 EDT In a message dated 5/30/01 10:16:08 AM Central Daylight Time, owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com writes: I'm in agreement with Tim over the Nader debate. No, we should not criticize Moby's view point on whom he chooses to support and not to support, because hey, it's Moby's own God given right to say and think what he wants. But on the flip side, I agree with Steve because if you do put your points out on the line, you cannot get offended when people attack it, because people are going to argue with it no matter what, it's pretty much human nature. Personally, I try to remember that everyone has their own opinions and you cannot for the most part change others minds. However, since I feel like writing today (go me ^^) I'm going to throw in my personal analysis, and I'm sorry if I'm butting in or offending anyone. Instead of just "debating" on a topic you don't agree with, truly respect (yes people RESPECT) the other's right to have their own opinions. You should be able to come across better and more clearly. On my second point, I want to express myself on Moby "selling-out". There is always something your going to miss and there is no prevention in harming something. I think Moby is doing his best job to live life according to all his beliefs, but you cannot do it all by yourself. I remember someone said a metaphor on here before "like stopping waves in the ocean with your hands", which pretty much applies. Moby's main philosophy has always been "one person can make a difference", so in lieu of that we all have to remember that Moby is only one man, and is only human. Well that's my say, hope I didn't offend anyone... ^^ As always, love you all. ~Alex "But the fascinating thing about being a musician right now, and this should give all the college kids hope, is that this is a time where if you can't play an instrument, sing, or write anything, you can still be the biggest pop star in the world. That's quite fantastic isn't it? Everyone should leave their studies, go get a record deal and just put on some tight dresses and shake. It could be quite huge." ~Tori Amos, winter 1998 ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "CDNOCAR1" <j.vaneyck@chello.nl> Subject: (mobility) by the way... Date: 30 May 2001 19:00:28 +0200 My 100% sample based remix of Time's Up is almost finished I'll let yßll know when an where to get it soon :) Bart ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility" in the body. 
