<html><DIV>does anyone know how many copies Play has sold? I know it's multi-platinum, but i can't seem to find the number anywhere.</DIV>
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<html><DIV>Ok, has anyone read where Moby and Kitty (shudder) or someone did a bunch of reviews in Spin? He was honestly too nice. I think he said "I feel guilty liking this song" in just about all of them. The only review he gave that I really just didn't like was Dido's Thank You. I really like that song, and he just said it was too mellow. Hello? Is it just me, or do I love all of Moby's mellow stuff? What are you doing, Moby?</DIV>
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i don't know about the acoustic version but you can find Porcelain in the new
Pure Moods 3 compilation...as seen on TV!!!!
i thought it was funny!!! elie
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yesterday i turned on mtv2 and they were rerunnign the
moby show from new years eve they did. what is this
fucking string section with him!?!?!?
hehe, my lil brother was watching, we were making fun
of how he jumps around a lot. and then my grandfather
comes in and starts watching ;P when they showed the
string section he was like "this is nice..." ;P i have
to say, that damn singer is annoying..... i'm glad she
wasn't on the tour back when i saw it.
and then i checked the mail and i got some free cd
from yahoo, with whispering wind, porcelain clubbed,
princess and down slow full. yay!
ive been talking with ryu recently. he hates moby now.
he thinks he sold out major. i think he sold out too,
but not in a bad way. i still love him and his music.
but ryu hates moby now and crap. he said to post his
message to all the bush fans at mobility, but i'm not
going to, i deleted it already. he did say something
about he wished moby put out a barracuda album tho ;P
but of course "he won't, hope is gone, he's crossed
over to the dark side of the force"....
whatever. he just plain sucks. he thinks stereolab
sucks, and he likes nirvana but claims all of their
influences were not important. fuck that, kurt cobain
wished he was as good as black francis!!!!!
fuck moby for not being on the new new order album.
what could possibly be bad about that? he hates being
on other peoples albums now i guess. he won't even do
remixes anymore! whats up with that?
whatever.
i still love moby, don't worry.
ROCK!
DJ PAUL
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"I don't really have any interest. I mean, everybody is related, everybody shares the same DNA to some extent. So there is somebody in the world whom I share a little more DNA with. Maybe if I need a blood transfusion or something I should find him.... I am actually a space alien myself." Moby, about his long-lost half brother
ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ PAUL, host of Chester's Blanket Fort, 89.5 FM/wpkn.org
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<BR><B>Blue (Da Ba Dee)
<BR>Eiffel 65 </B>
<BR>Track from: Europop
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<BR><B>Be With You
<BR>Enrique Iglesias </B>
<BR>Track from: Enrique
<BR>[Interscope Records]
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<BR><B>Let's Get Loud
<BR>Jennifer Lopez </B>
<BR>Track from: On The 6
<BR>[Work]
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<BR><B>Natural Blues
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<P>Matt wrote: "I wanna chime in too! LET'S GET DOWN AND BOOGIE TO NATURAL BLUES! MAN CAN I BREAK TO THIS BEAT!"</P>
<P>no kidding. I love love love Play, but i wonder if Moby will release another "Move" <IMG height=12 src="http://64.4.14.24/emsmile.gif" width=12> or another "Feeling So Real". I think i'll go put in the victory mix of Next is the E and slam into my walls while jumping around uncontrollably. I FEEL IT, I FEEL IT, YEAH!</P>
<P>Peace.</P>
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Subject: (mobility) think moby gives a damn about a grammy?
Date: 04 Jan 2001 04:22:33 -0800 (PST)
why is eminem nominated for best album?
viva kid a
dj paul
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"I don't really have any interest. I mean, everybody is related, everybody shares the same DNA to some extent. So there is somebody in the world whom I share a little more DNA with. Maybe if I need a blood transfusion or something I should find him.... I am actually a space alien myself." Moby, about his long-lost half brother
ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ PAUL, host of Chester's Blanket Fort, 89.5 FM/wpkn.org
Subject: (mobility) holy crap, i just noticed that...
Date: 04 Jan 2001 08:27:27 -0800 (PST)
south side in in the top 40 in the american pop
charts! according to last weeks charts its number 37
or something. wow, i havent been following the charts
like i usually have been.... wow! and the new charts
go up like... in an hour or something.
hooray!
altho i still don't like the version of SS with gwen
in it. it just isnt a ND song. and i like ND!
eat this, ryu! ;P
ROCK!
DJ PAUL
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ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ PAUL, host of Chester's Blanket Fort, 89.5 FM/wpkn.org
-No way bro...I'm talking business here with Keith...
He wanted to buy my drum machine months ago and we never met up for the
exchange...I need some money and Im just wondering where he went..
-Don't worry, you have not been forgotten..anytime I get to see a die hard
Moby fan at a show, it has to be the greatest feeling...I had a blast..cannot
wait till he comes back to play again...PEACE and hope all is well...elie
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<BR>He wanted to buy my drum machine months ago and we never met up for the <BR>exchange...I need some money and Im just wondering where he went..
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<BR>-Don't worry, you have not been forgotten..anytime I get to see a die hard <BR>Moby fan at a show, it has to be the greatest feeling...I had a blast..cannot <BR>wait till he comes back to play again...PEACE and hope all is well...elie</FONT></HTML>
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south side=37 on the hot 100 (same as last week, but
at least with a bullet)
other good songs on that chart: outkast ms jackson,
number 7 (down a space but still w/ a bullet)
south side=#11 on "modern" "rock" charts (same as last
week but at least w a bullet)
also: coldplay yellow #10 on same chart (same as...)
play: number 70 or 80 or something, album charts
outkast in the top 10 again, yay
ROCK!
DJ PAUL
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"I don't really have any interest. I mean, everybody is related, everybody shares the same DNA to some extent. So there is somebody in the world whom I share a little more DNA with. Maybe if I need a blood transfusion or something I should find him.... I am actually a space alien myself." Moby, about his long-lost half brother
ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ PAUL, host of Chester's Blanket Fort, 89.5 FM/wpkn.org
Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby's lost half-bro, Coachella
Date: 05 Jan 2001 10:06:22 -0800
<html><DIV>
<P>Hey guys, I know a really big time promoter and Coachella is coming up, it was not called nocturnal wonderland this year. They are totally different promoters and coachella is coming up and will be going all night every night this year, instead of shutting down at 12. Have fun all look on the web and around for recent news.<BR><BR></P></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>>From: Arcya@aol.com
<DIV></DIV>>Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com
<DIV></DIV>>To: mobility@lists.xmission.com
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: (mobility) Moby's lost half-bro, Coachella
<DIV></DIV>>Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 21:23:53 EST
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>First, yes Coachella was called Nocturnal Wonderland this year. And yes, the
<DIV></DIV>>first Coachella festival was more amazing than... ok, so it was THE most
<DIV></DIV>>amazing thing ever. Too bad that whenever you were enjoying one artist/band,
<DIV></DIV>>you were missing 4 other great ones, too.
First, allow me to dispense with the standard disclaimer and say that the
following is just my opinion; I have no illusions about its "correctness,"
nor do I intend to lord it over anyone else, especially being such a newbie.
But for what it's worth (which is approximately $.02, give or take two
cents), here is my take on things:
Personally I don't think it's right to judge or label someone, especially a
person whom most of us have never had the pleasure of knowing. It's
impossible for any of us to say what we'd do were we in Moby's shoes, or for
that matter even to determine what he knew about his music's licensing and
when he knew it. And that's not to mention his motivation.. philosophically
who among us really understands our own motivations most of the time, much
less anyone else's? Not long ago I would've condemned any artist who allowed
his or her work to be used for any commercial purpose, unless it were in an
advertisement for charity. But these days, with a little more experience,
I'm far less absolutist in my thinking, and slightly more practical.
There's an article in the new edition of Entertainment Weekly that addresses
this issue, and cites Moby specifically as an example. It makes the point,
as many of you have, that having work featured in an ad can give an artist a
second chance at recognition they might otherwise have missed out on. I am
reminded of "Harry's Game," by Clannad; years later I can't remember what car
company used that song in its advertisement, but I do remember the song
vividly-- it contributed greatly to my discovery of Celtic music as a whole.
I enjoy it still today with the knowledge I never would've known it existed
were it not for that ad.
An anecdote to illustrate my point... a while back, in the midst of a boring
afternoon of television with the folks, the Tiger Woods Nike ad featuring
"Find My Baby" came on; immediately my dad's ears pricked up and he said,
"That's a good song!" So I played the entire tune for him, along with
several others from Play, all of which he greatly enjoyed. Now an elitist
might decry the "coolness" of any work a 60-year-old man digs, but to me it
speaks to the universality and accessibility of Moby's music. And it's one
of the few things my dad and I agree on.
Now about Paul's original issue as to the ethics of allowing one's music to
be used by companies whose activities violate one's stated principles...
well, that's a bit trickier. The primary questions it raises are: a) Was
Moby aware his music was being used; b) Was he aware of those companies'
practices; and c) What did he do with the money-- did he in fact donate it to
animal charities? To be honest, I'm a little uncomfortable with asking those
questions, as I'm not sure they're anyone's business but Moby's. I'm sure if
our decisions were analyzed under the same harsh light, in many instances
we'd all look like hypocrites, or worse. Is it right to hold Moby to a
higher standard than that to which we hold ourselves? I'm certain many would
respond that by so boldly proclaiming his beliefs, Moby opened himself up to
such criticism, but... does that give us the right to judge? Personally I'm
glad someone out there is exposing the public to issues and viewpoints they
might not otherwise have even considered. So does that outweigh the
potential damage done to the animal rights cause by companies like Calvin
Klein and Nordstrom? Or, more specifically, does it outweigh the potential
damage done by the use of Moby's songs and likeness by those companies? To
me that's the fundamental issue here.. not whether the man uses fingernail
polish tested on bunnies or has the floors of his apartment covered with
furs. That's his business, not mine.
As for Mark's assertion that Moby "screwed over one of his best friends and
may of thrown away a ~20 year relationship. he's changed in bad ways, and
seems to of lost some of his personal morals."-- I assume he's referring to
Moby's falling-out with Paul Yates? Well, it seems to me that when
friendships end, often the two people involved have widely divergent views on
the cause of the relationship's demise; and if they can't reach a consensus,
how can we ever know who's to blame? As the old saying goes, "it takes two
to tango." Besides, what business is it of ours? Certainly it's not our
role to assign blame or responsibility when a) we weren't involved, and b)
most of us are strangers to both parties. And unless this friendship relates
somehow to the business end of music, I don't see what it has to do with
whether or not Moby is a sellout.
The reference to Moby's "personal morals" is a little troubling to me. By
this you seem to imply you have some firsthand knowledge of his private life.
I'm hoping you're not basing this remark on gossip, and further I really
hope you're not trying to tantalize us into begging you to reveal information
that should remain private. If you're referring to sex, however, I would
direct you to a chat that occurred on SonicNet several years ago in which
Moby called himself "a ho"; while this may seem incongruous with his public
declarations of his love for Christ, further investigation reveals Moby has
often stated that while he loves Jesus, he does not espouse a "Christian"
lifestyle. So I don't see any hypocrisy there.
But regardless... I feel dirty even having broached that particular aspect of
the topic. It seems unfortunate to me that some can't separate the beauty
and genius of a work of art from the personality that created it. As perfect
as a song or an album may seem, it's not fair to expect the artist to be
flawless too. I'd like to think that the music is what will survive long
after we're dead... not the indecent dissection of matters which are none of
our business. Entertainers are people, flawed human beings like the rest of
us who happen to possess certain talents society values; they're not gods,
and we shouldn't expect them to be. It's part of the cult of celebrity that
exists today, but ask yourself this-- do you really wanna contribute to it?
Very few of us would answer "yes," yet most of us derive a certain fiendish
pleasure from the exploitation of celebrities' personal lives. So what does
that make us?
Again, just my (lengthy) $.02... no offense intended.
--Carrie the hypocrite
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>First, allow me to dispense with the standard disclaimer and say that the <BR>following is just my opinion; I have no illusions about its "correctness," <BR>nor do I intend to lord it over anyone else, especially being such a newbie. <BR>But for what it's worth (which is approximately $.02, give or take two <BR>cents), here is my take on things:
<BR>
<BR>Personally I don't think it's right to judge or label someone, especially a <BR>person whom most of us have never had the pleasure of knowing. It's <BR>impossible for any of us to say what we'd do were we in Moby's shoes, or for <BR>that matter even to determine what he knew about his music's licensing and <BR>when he knew it. And that's not to mention his motivation.. philosophically <BR>who among us really understands our own motivations most of the time, much <BR>less anyone else's? Not long ago I would've condemned any artist who allowed <BR>his or her work to be used for any commercial purpose, unless it were in an <BR>advertisement for charity. But these days, with a little more experience, <BR>I'm far less absolutist in my thinking, and slightly more practical.
<BR>
<BR>There's an article in the new edition of Entertainment Weekly that addresses <BR>this issue, and cites Moby specifically as an example. It makes the point, <BR>as many of you have, that having work featured in an ad can give an artist a <BR>second chance at recognition they might otherwise have missed out on. I am <BR>reminded of "Harry's Game," by Clannad; years later I can't remember what car <BR>company used that song in its advertisement, but I do remember the song <BR>vividly-- it contributed greatly to my discovery of Celtic music as a whole. <BR>I enjoy it still today with the knowledge I never would've known it existed <BR>were it not for that ad.
<BR>
<BR>An anecdote to illustrate my point... a while back, in the midst of a boring <BR>afternoon of television with the folks, the Tiger Woods Nike ad featuring <BR>"Find My Baby" came on; immediately my dad's ears pricked up and he said, <BR>"That's a good song!" So I played the entire tune for him, along with <BR>several others from Play, all of which he greatly enjoyed. Now an elitist <BR>might decry the "coolness" of any work a 60-year-old man digs, but to me it <BR>speaks to the universality and accessibility of Moby's music. And it's one <BR>of the few things my dad and I agree on.
<BR>
<BR>Now about Paul's original issue as to the ethics of allowing one's music to <BR>be used by companies whose activities violate one's stated principles... <BR>well, that's a bit trickier. The primary questions it raises are: a) Was <BR>Moby aware his music was being used; b) Was he aware of those companies' <BR>practices; and c) What did he do with the money-- did he in fact donate it to <BR>animal charities? To be honest, I'm a little uncomfortable with asking those <BR>questions, as I'm not sure they're anyone's business but Moby's. I'm sure if <BR>our decisions were analyzed under the same harsh light, in many instances <BR>we'd all look like hypocrites, or worse. Is it right to hold Moby to a <BR>higher standard than that to which we hold ourselves? I'm certain many would <BR>respond that by so boldly proclaiming his beliefs, Moby opened himself up to <BR>such criticism, but... does that give us the right to judge? Personally I'm <BR>g!
lad someone out there is exposing the public to issues and viewpoints they <BR>might not otherwise have even considered. So does that outweigh the <BR>potential damage done to the animal rights cause by companies like Calvin <BR>Klein and Nordstrom? Or, more specifically, does it outweigh the potential <BR>damage done by the use of Moby's songs and likeness by those companies? To <BR>me that's the fundamental issue here.. not whether the man uses fingernail <BR>polish tested on bunnies or has the floors of his apartment covered with <BR>furs. That's his business, not mine.
<BR>
<BR>As for Mark's assertion that Moby "screwed over one of his best friends and <BR>may of thrown away a ~20 year relationship. he's changed in bad ways, and <BR>seems to of lost some of his personal morals."-- I assume he's referring to <BR>Moby's falling-out with Paul Yates? Well, it seems to me that when <BR>friendships end, often the two people involved have widely divergent views on <BR>the cause of the relationship's demise; and if they can't reach a consensus, <BR>how can we ever know who's to blame? As the old saying goes, "it takes two <BR>to tango." Besides, what business is it of ours? Certainly it's not our <BR>role to assign blame or responsibility when a) we weren't involved, and b) <BR>most of us are strangers to both parties. And unless this friendship relates <BR>somehow to the business end of music, I don't see what it has to do with <BR>whether or not Moby is a sellout.
<BR>
<BR>The reference to Moby's "personal morals" is a little troubling to me. By <BR>this you seem to imply you have some firsthand knowledge of his private life. <BR> I'm hoping you're not basing this remark on gossip, and further I really <BR>hope you're not trying to tantalize us into begging you to reveal information <BR>that should remain private. If you're referring to sex, however, I would <BR>direct you to a chat that occurred on SonicNet several years ago in which <BR>Moby called himself "a ho"; while this may seem incongruous with his public <BR>declarations of his love for Christ, further investigation reveals Moby has <BR>often stated that while he loves Jesus, he does not espouse a "Christian" <BR>lifestyle. So I don't see any hypocrisy there.
<BR>
<BR>But regardless... I feel dirty even having broached that particular aspect of <BR>the topic. It seems unfortunate to me that some can't separate the beauty <BR>and genius of a work of art from the personality that created it. As perfect <BR>as a song or an album may seem, it's not fair to expect the artist to be <BR>flawless too. I'd like to think that the music is what will survive long <BR>after we're dead... not the indecent dissection of matters which are none of <BR>our business. Entertainers are people, flawed human beings like the rest of <BR>us who happen to possess certain talents society values; they're not gods, <BR>and we shouldn't expect them to be. It's part of the cult of celebrity that <BR>exists today, but ask yourself this-- do you really wanna contribute to it? <BR>Very few of us would answer "yes," yet most of us derive a certain fiendish <BR>pleasure from the exploitation of celebrities' personal lives. So what!
does <BR>that make us?
<BR>
<BR>Again, just my (lengthy) $.02... no offense intended.
<BR>
<BR>--Carrie the hypocrite</FONT></HTML>
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Okay, one more (short) post and then I'll shut up, I promise.
Tonight while rotting my brain away in front of the tv, I came across a
program on VH-1 called "Don't Quote Me." As they were going to commercial,
they displayed a quote from an unnamed artist regarding all the crappy jobs
he held while working to make it as a musician, and the viewer was given
three choices as to the source of the quote-- Kid Rock, Moby, or Mark McGrath
of Sugar Ray. The use of the word "airless," being rather literate, led me
to suspect the correct answer was Moby, and sure enough-- ding ding ding-- I
was right. They then showed a snippet of an interview with him in which he
decribed various McJobs he's had-- mail inserter (the opportunities for bad
puns that presents!), dishwasher at Macy's, lawn trimmer, etc. So the
voiceover guys asks something like, "So what's your background in music?"
Cut to Moby saying that when he was 10, he tried out for a choir and was one
of (he thought) two people to be rejected.
So I suppose the moral of the story is "If at first you don't succeed..." I
just thought it was cute... I apologize if it's been posted before.
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>Okay, one more (short) post and then I'll shut up, I promise.
<BR>
<BR>Tonight while rotting my brain away in front of the tv, I came across a <BR>program on VH-1 called "Don't Quote Me." As they were going to commercial, <BR>they displayed a quote from an unnamed artist regarding all the crappy jobs <BR>he held while working to make it as a musician, and the viewer was given <BR>three choices as to the source of the quote-- Kid Rock, Moby, or Mark McGrath <BR>of Sugar Ray. The use of the word "airless," being rather literate, led me <BR>to suspect the correct answer was Moby, and sure enough-- ding ding ding-- I <BR>was right. They then showed a snippet of an interview with him in which he <BR>decribed various McJobs he's had-- mail inserter (the opportunities for bad <BR>puns that presents!), dishwasher at Macy's, lawn trimmer, etc. So the <BR>voiceover guys asks something like, "So what's your background in music?" <BR>Cut to Moby saying that when he was 10, he tried out for a choir and was one <BR>of (he thou!
ght) two people to be rejected.
<BR>
<BR>So I suppose the moral of the story is "If at first you don't succeed..." I <BR>just thought it was cute... I apologize if it's been posted before.
<BR>
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I was in Media Play today in Harrisburg, PA (if anyone knows where that is...), and I went to get Animal Rights. They were all out so I went to the counter to order it. When I got there I asked the guy if they had any Moby- and he cut me off saying, "Play? No, we're out. We're getting a new shipment in soon though, I promise." I told him I was after Animal Rights and he responded: "Oh... Thought you wanted Play. Everybody wants that all of the sudden."
Anyway, thought it was cool that in a little capital such as Harrisburg Moby was selling.
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<DIV></DIV>>time to work on the Discography and Song Index. By the way, could
<DIV></DIV>>anybody tell me the catalog number of the US Southside promo 12"?
<DIV></DIV>>And all info on that Yahoo Moby CD, that would be cool too!
<DIV></DIV>
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<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">However does anyone have ANY idea why Play has sparked this interest? I too
<BR>think its one of his best albums, but not the absolute best by far. Why did
<BR>it take so long for him to become some-what popular, especially since it was
<BR>released over 18 months ago? (I say some-what popular because he's still not
<BR>exactly a household name, nor do his overall sales match anything in the
<BR>mainstream music industry). Has anyone read anything from critics
<BR>explaining this, or does anyone have any ideas themselves?</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BR>I was watching some marketing commentary about Sting's resuccess with Desert <BR>Rose was because he allowed it to be licensed to commercials, which brought <BR>interest, so I really do think the commercial thing helped Play a lot. Moby <BR>also got WB promotion which of course didn't hurt anything. And his <BR>popularity came the same time as Macy Gray, both musicians polar opposites <BR>from the popular music scene at the time. So Moby has come as a breathe of <BR>fresh air for many people who are tired of the boy bands and bubble gum. <BR>Also, electronica/techno (even though Play isn't exactly traditional in that <BR>respect) is now becoming the trendy thing. Hell, BT is becoming popular <BR>(which is very much deserved). This can probably be attributed to mainly <BR>Fatboy Slim, because as cheesy as he can be, he was really the person that <BR>became madly popular and brought life to the techno/electronica scene in the <BR>mai!
nstream. Not to mention the whole controversy over raves and E and all <BR>that jazz.
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<BR>Just a quick analysis. Play is great, but I would love for him to return to <BR>the animal rights era.</FONT></HTML>
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In a message dated 01/08/2001 5:17:24 AM Eastern Standard Time,
cbourke1@bigred.unl.edu writes:
>> Personally I attribute the success, as carrie probably does, to word of
mouth. But that still doesn't answer the main issue, WHY PLAY? Why not
EIW? Why not AR? Why not the score of other albums he's done for the last
15 aught years? Perhaps these questions will never be answered. <<
Probably the only way to know with any degree of certainty is to do some good
market research, something I doubt Mute or V2 are likely to do, and even if
they did, hopefully it would have no bearing on Moby's future recordings; it
would merely satisfy the curiosity of people like us, and that doesn't really
justify the expense. So it's left to us to speculate.
So, why not AR? Well, granted I wasn't around then, but from what I gather
not even Moby's fans were quite sure what to make of that one. And EIW was
released before electronica, for lack of a better term, had really become
accepted. Back then there was a certain stigma attached to it; I think your
average pop listener thought of dance music as being rather "gay" or nerdy.
That's changed, with the "electronica explosion" of '96-'97; although it
never quite lived up to the hype it garnered as "the next big thing," I think
it did open a lot of people's minds, or at least expose them to something new
and different.
You're right, though... I don't think Play really fits into any one category,
not even electronica. And maybe that's what people like about it-- it's
different and refreshing. Personally there's something about Play that
speaks to me... it's nearly impossible to define what that quality is; it's
ineffable, something that can only be understood when it's felt. I hesitate
to use the term "spiritual," as it's such a loaded word, but it really is
what seems most appropriate. I remember excitedly composing an e-mail to a
friend after I'd heard the album for the first time; in that letter I
described Play as "capturing the beauty of creation," and while that is a
highly subjective description, I think it may be help explain the album's
popularity. There's something about it people connect to, something they're
longing for. I am very, very picky about the records I buy, but even so,
Play moves me in a way few albums ever have.
But back to being coldly factual.. Moby's visibility did increase with this
album, although it's still a question as to which came first, the chicken or
the egg. But people have been able to see him on MTV and MTV2, as well as on
tour, and I think the notoriety caused by the commercial licensing of the
songs on Play have contributed as well. I'm not referring to people hearing
the songs in commercials, but rather to the stir it all caused. It aroused
people's curiosity, perhaps made them notice the songs more than they
otherwise would have.
All factors considered, however-- word of mouth, commercial licensing,
visibility, personal connection-- I think the first is most important,
followed by the last, with visibility and licensing, respectively, bringing
up the rear. This is far from scientific, however-- it's just my opinion.
--Carrie
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 01/08/2001 5:17:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, <BR>cbourke1@bigred.unl.edu writes:
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>>> Personally I attribute the success, as carrie probably does, to word of
<BR>mouth. But that still doesn't answer the main issue, WHY PLAY? Why not
<BR>EIW? Why not AR? Why not the score of other albums he's done for the last
<BR>15 aught years? Perhaps these questions will never be answered. <<
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>Probably the only way to know with any degree of certainty is to do some good <BR>market research, something I doubt Mute or V2 are likely to do, and even if <BR>they did, hopefully it would have no bearing on Moby's future recordings; it <BR>would merely satisfy the curiosity of people like us, and that doesn't really <BR>justify the expense. So it's left to us to speculate.
<BR>
<BR>So, why not AR? Well, granted I wasn't around then, but from what I gather <BR>not even Moby's fans were quite sure what to make of that one. And EIW was <BR>released before electronica, for lack of a better term, had really become <BR>accepted. Back then there was a certain stigma attached to it; I think your <BR>average pop listener thought of dance music as being rather "gay" or nerdy. <BR>That's changed, with the "electronica explosion" of '96-'97; although it <BR>never quite lived up to the hype it garnered as "the next big thing," I think <BR>it did open a lot of people's minds, or at least expose them to something new <BR>and different.
<BR>
<BR>You're right, though... I don't think Play really fits into any one category, <BR>not even electronica. And maybe that's what people like about it-- it's <BR>different and refreshing. Personally there's something about Play that <BR>speaks to me... it's nearly impossible to define what that quality is; it's <BR>ineffable, something that can only be understood when it's felt. I hesitate <BR>to use the term "spiritual," as it's such a loaded word, but it really is <BR>what seems most appropriate. I remember excitedly composing an e-mail to a <BR>friend after I'd heard the album for the first time; in that letter I <BR>described Play as "capturing the beauty of creation," and while that is a <BR>highly subjective description, I think it may be help explain the album's <BR>popularity. There's something about it people connect to, something they're <BR>longing for. I am very, very picky about the records I buy, but even so, <BR>Play moves me !
in a way few albums ever have.
<BR>
<BR>But back to being coldly factual.. Moby's visibility did increase with this <BR>album, although it's still a question as to which came first, the chicken or <BR>the egg. But people have been able to see him on MTV and MTV2, as well as on <BR>tour, and I think the notoriety caused by the commercial licensing of the <BR>songs on Play have contributed as well. I'm not referring to people hearing <BR>the songs in commercials, but rather to the stir it all caused. It aroused <BR>people's curiosity, perhaps made them notice the songs more than they <BR>otherwise would have.
<BR>
<BR>All factors considered, however-- word of mouth, commercial licensing, <BR>visibility, personal connection-- I think the first is most important, <BR>followed by the last, with visibility and licensing, respectively, bringing <BR>up the rear. This is far from scientific, however-- it's just my opinion.
<BR>
<BR>--Carrie</FONT></HTML>
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Okay at our school we have this thing called Channel One which is a TV show
that has news that they play during last period. In between two segments they
played Moby's "Southside". I told all the class about him. It was awesome!
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>Okay at our school we have this thing called Channel One which is a TV show <BR>that has news that they play during last period. In between two segments they <BR>played Moby's "Southside". I told all the class about him. It was awesome!
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I don't mean to stir things up or create an issue out of nothing, but earlier
it occurred to me that some people may see the "South side" video as racist.
Now, I suspect those are probably the same people who go around looking for
excuses to be offended, but still.. I thought it might be worthy of
addressing.
I don't think the video is at all bigoted, because to me it ridicules the
excesses and posing common to both rap and rock. The song itself is a little
more questionable.. is it meant to portray the tragic plight of inner-city
youth, or is it a parody of white boys who wanna be gangstas?
If we interpret it as a serious song, then what if its perspective were
reversed and it featured a gangsta rapping about going to the country club?
At first that might give one pause, but then again, there are plenty of
rappers out there who seem incapable of writing a song about anything other
than the "bling-bling." Which brings us back to the point (I think) the
video was trying to make.
Conversely, if we see it as a parody of white boy wanna-bes, then consider if
the narrator were a black man rapping about black guys trying to be white.
Been done many times, perhaps most notably by Public Enemy.
Either way, I don't see anything wrong. I think the true root of the problem
lies with a society that disapproves of members of one race subscribing to
the culture of another, or really, that seeks to differentiate cultures by
race in the first place.
This is all probably much ado about nothing, and just another indication that
I have far too much time on my hands. But I thought I'd run it by you guys
and see what you thought. Although I think no harm was intended with either
the song or the video, to me it seemed a more legitimate concern than the
possibility that Moby's sampling of African American folk music is racist, an
issue he addressed in an update on moby-online.com, and which really to me
seemed to come out of left field. I hesitate to bring this up at all,
though, because I don't wanna start a flame war. Just remember, often
there's no clear right or wrong, just various shades of gray.
--Carrie
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>I don't mean to stir things up or create an issue out of nothing, but earlier <BR>it occurred to me that some people may see the "South side" video as racist. <BR>Now, I suspect those are probably the same people who go around looking for <BR>excuses to be offended, but still.. I thought it might be worthy of <BR>addressing.
<BR>
<BR>I don't think the video is at all bigoted, because to me it ridicules the <BR>excesses and posing common to both rap and rock. The song itself is a little <BR>more questionable.. is it meant to portray the tragic plight of inner-city <BR>youth, or is it a parody of white boys who wanna be gangstas?
<BR>
<BR>If we interpret it as a serious song, then what if its perspective were <BR>reversed and it featured a gangsta rapping about going to the country club? <BR>At first that might give one pause, but then again, there are plenty of <BR>rappers out there who seem incapable of writing a song about anything other <BR>than the "bling-bling." Which brings us back to the point (I think) the <BR>video was trying to make.
<BR>
<BR>Conversely, if we see it as a parody of white boy wanna-bes, then consider if <BR>the narrator were a black man rapping about black guys trying to be white. <BR>Been done many times, perhaps most notably by Public Enemy.
<BR>
<BR>Either way, I don't see anything wrong. I think the true root of the problem <BR>lies with a society that disapproves of members of one race subscribing to <BR>the culture of another, or really, that seeks to differentiate cultures by <BR>race in the first place.
<BR>
<BR>This is all probably much ado about nothing, and just another indication that <BR>I have far too much time on my hands. But I thought I'd run it by you guys <BR>and see what you thought. Although I think no harm was intended with either <BR>the song or the video, to me it seemed a more legitimate concern than the <BR>possibility that Moby's sampling of African American folk music is racist, an <BR>issue he addressed in an update on moby-online.com, and which really to me <BR>seemed to come out of left field. I hesitate to bring this up at all, <BR>though, because I don't wanna start a flame war. Just remember, often <BR>there's no clear right or wrong, just various shades of gray.
<BR>
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"I don't really have any interest. I mean, everybody is related, everybody shares the same DNA to some extent. So there is somebody in the world whom I share a little more DNA with. Maybe if I need a blood transfusion or something I should find him.... I am actually a space alien myself." Moby, about his long-lost half brother
ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ PAUL, host of Chester's Blanket Fort, 89.5 FM/wpkn.org
In a message dated 01/09/2001 11:43:35 AM Eastern Standard Time,
donkeymike@yahoo.com writes:
> >> ...i heard it's all about an experience he had in London...go figure... <<
>
> About five minutes after I'd sent my original post, I realized what a
> complete ass I'd made of myself in assuming the song was about either black
> or "wigger" culture. I guess I'm the one who's racist.
>
> BTW, Christopher, thanks for pointing out that the racial divide isn't
> confined exclusively to rural areas.
>
> I'm glad to see I'm not the only analytical one on the list, but at the
> same time, I pity poor Moby. Seems the guy can't do anything without it
> .
--Carrie
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 01/09/2001 11:43:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, <BR>donkeymike@yahoo.com writes:
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<BR>
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">>> ...i heard it's all about an experience he had in London...go figure... <<
<BR>
<BR>About five minutes after I'd sent my original post, I realized what a <BR>complete ass I'd made of myself in assuming the song was about either black <BR>or "wigger" culture. I guess I'm the one who's racist.
<BR>
<BR>BTW, Christopher, thanks for pointing out that the racial divide isn't <BR>confined exclusively to rural areas.
<BR>
<BR>I'm glad to see I'm not the only analytical one on the list, but at the <BR>same time, I pity poor Moby. Seems the guy can't do anything without it <BR>being picked to death</BLOCKQUOTE>.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
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<BR>at one of the three concerts i went to, he explained that he was writing <BR>about being up at 5 in the morning walking on the lower east side area of NYC <BR>and being real cold and gloomy and going out by some bridge over there and <BR>seeing all the "little Asian people" practicing Tai Chi and he thought it was <BR>amazing or something..Elie
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yeah..come to think of it..South Side ISSSSSS RACIST!!!
ELIE
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Subject: (mobility) funniest part of the southside video
Date: 09 Jan 2001 17:27:01 -0800 (PST)
when moby is singing and suddenly he noticed he has a
piece of gold stuck in his tooth.
that always cracks me up.
the video is kind of disturbing tho. is moby really
that famous, or is he just making fun of it? i would
say the latter, but gwen licking the back of his head
gives me the fucking willies......
this "racism" bullshit reminds me of when windowlicker
came out, everyone was like is aphex racist? like,
shut up.....................................
ROCK!
DJ PAUL
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ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ PAUL, host of Chester's Blanket Fort, 89.5 FM/wpkn.org
Subject: (mobility) funniest part of the southside video
Date: 09 Jan 2001 17:27:10 -0800 (PST)
when moby is singing and suddenly he noticed he has a
piece of gold stuck in his tooth.
that always cracks me up.
the video is kind of disturbing tho. is moby really
that famous, or is he just making fun of it? i would
say the latter, but gwen licking the back of his head
gives me the fucking willies......
this "racism" bullshit reminds me of when windowlicker
came out, everyone was like is aphex racist? like,
shut up.....................................
ROCK!
DJ PAUL
=====
"I don't really have any interest. I mean, everybody is related, everybody shares the same DNA to some extent. So there is somebody in the world whom I share a little more DNA with. Maybe if I need a blood transfusion or something I should find him.... I am actually a space alien myself." Moby, about his long-lost half brother
ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ PAUL, host of Chester's Blanket Fort, 89.5 FM/wpkn.org
Subject: (mobility) parody or sellout? (or something)
Date: 10 Jan 2001 06:24:39 -0800 (PST)
well, i've said before how much i thought the video
(as well as the song) for "Music" was terrible. I
don't really think it's much of a parody of the whole
lifestyle etc. either. i think looking at all these
damn rich people with all their cars and "ice" and
shit is nauseating. i mean, i know i'll never have
that much money, i'll never be rich, i'll never be
famous, etc. so i look at all that shit as impossible.
i guess that's just me but anyway it still kind of
disturbs me. but hey, moby's earned it i think. let
him sell out! i still like him and his music, i think
i always will. unlike ryu.
i noticed somebody used the term "african american"
here. sorry, this is kind of a pet peeve, but....
please don't! that phrase makes smoke come out of my
ears. it sounds way too politically correct. and the
same people who are too timid to call black people
black will easily call white people white. thats what
really bugs me.
or, better yet, don't talk about race!
ROCK!
DJ PAUL
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ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ PAUL, host of Chester's Blanket Fort, 89.5 FM/wpkn.org
"I don't really have any interest. I mean, everybody is related, everybody shares the same DNA to some extent. So there is somebody in the world whom I share a little more DNA with. Maybe if I need a blood transfusion or something I should find him.... I am actually a space alien myself." Moby, about his long-lost half brother
ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ PAUL, host of Chester's Blanket Fort, 89.5 FM/wpkn.org
In a message dated 01/09/2001 2:55:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,
TEllorin@mediabrains.com writes:
>> And then my favorite Moby song of all time is Living. I can listen to
this song over and over and over...until the cows come home. It has such a
melancholy overtone throughout most of the song until the end where it seems
to be almost overwhelming with feeling, like this building of emotion until
it seems it is going to burst. I listen to this song and I am reminded of
the line in "American Beauty" "Sometimes there's so much beauty I feel like I
can't take it, like my heart's going to cave in." <<
"My Weakness" has always reminded me of the exact same quote. I can only
listen to it very occasionally, because it never fails to make me cry. It's
one of two songs, the other being R.E.M.'s "Find the River," I would want
played at my funeral. As for the lyrics.. to me emotion is more universal
than language. In a way it would kinda ruin it if I knew what the lyrics
actually meant. But that's just me...
--Carrie
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<BR>
<BR>
<BR>>> And then my favorite Moby song of all time is Living. I can listen to <BR>this song over and over and over...until the cows come home. It has such a <BR>melancholy overtone throughout most of the song until the end where it seems <BR>to be almost overwhelming with feeling, like this building of emotion until <BR>it seems it is going to burst. I listen to this song and I am reminded of <BR>the line in "American Beauty" "Sometimes there's so much beauty I feel like I <BR>can't take it, like my heart's going to cave in." <<
<BR>
<BR>"My Weakness" has always reminded me of the exact same quote. I can only <BR>listen to it very occasionally, because it never fails to make me cry. It's <BR>one of two songs, the other being R.E.M.'s "Find the River," I would want <BR>played at my funeral. As for the lyrics.. to me emotion is more universal <BR>than language. In a way it would kinda ruin it if I knew what the lyrics <BR>actually meant. But that's just me...
<BR>
<BR>--Carrie</FONT></HTML>
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OK, I replied to several things in a recent digest,
and here's what I got back. What the hell?!?!?
Note: forwarded message attached.
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ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ PAUL, host of Chester's Blanket Fort, 89.5 FM/wpkn.org
<DIV></DIV>Out of curiosity, what does everyone do for a living? I myself am a
<DIV></DIV>Software Test Specialist. Which is a fancy way of saying I sit around in
<DIV></DIV>front of a computer trying to break programs.
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Tim
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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Is this Tim Beecher who I spoke to ages ago? If so your old e-mail doesn't work anymore.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I haven't mailed for ages but I am a music teacher/tutor and am doing a PGCE music teaching course for the classroom and I live in Glasgow in Scotland (not part of England, Americans take note!) although I am originally English with a wee bit of Welsh (Wales, not part of England.) I caught Moby at his Barowlands gig last year and have seen him twice at Greenbelt and once in a little room at Cardiff Art College. </DIV>
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Moby uses two identical Carlo Robelli black strat copies on tour, and his Ibanez for home use in the studio. You can purchase a Carlo Robelli for about $175 U.S. Why so cheap? Kevin, Moby's guitar tech, says: If he smashes one, they just pick up a replacement in the next town. No time wasted on repairs.
Joseph
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First, Darmstadt is spelled right (born there, so I better be right!). My question: do you know the date of that performance? I've been wondering this for a LONG time, unless he's performed more than once in that city & there's numerous recordings. Thanks for any help...
Second, about "Who Wants to be a Millionaire". Just found out from Rolling Stone that the celebrity episodes will air Feb.11 & 14. They mentioned a few artists I didn't care for (the singer from Sugar Ray who was surprisingly good on "Rock n Roll Jeopardy"), but no mention of Moby, but I figured that's when it'd air. Everyone who participates gets $32,000 to their charity of choice. If I find out for sure when Moby will be on, I'll be sure to share...
love&sugary-yum cereal,
malfunctiongirl
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Very interesting question- I know I will be attacked. So be it.
I would most certainly not classify a DJ as a musician. Take away the records and there isn't a whole lot they can do with their coffins alone. On the other hand, say they run an 808, 303, 606, etc... then there is some chance for a truly original song or beat to be born. But that's as close as it gets.
As I was raised to play classical music on several intsruments, I was lucky enough to learn "how to drop the one and twos" in college from a friend of mine. DJing tickles a different part of your brain than playing the piano, guitar, sax, etc. I would also venture to say that it is picked up alot more easily, due to being devoid of theory.
djs please don't hate me
josef
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yes i a have had some trouble accessing it myself...i'm gonna complain to
moby himself...love..elie
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well...i just spoke to moby two seconds ago and i bitched and moaned..he told
me his cockroaches living in his apartment are the current hired techs who
run the site..they have been on strike for the past few days and stopped
running the site completely...after the explanation, moby hung up on me..
HAVE A LITTLE SENSE OF HUMOR PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOVE..ELIE
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT COLOR="#004080" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Lucida Sans" LANG="0">well...i just spoke to moby two seconds ago and i bitched and moaned..he told
<BR>me his cockroaches living in his apartment are the current hired techs who
<BR>run the site..they have been on strike for the past few days and stopped
<BR>running the site completely...after the explanation, moby hung up on me..
<BR>HAVE A LITTLE SENSE OF HUMOR PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<BR>LOVE..ELIE</FONT></HTML>
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thank you!! i guess the moby-online site is just having some problems...i
don't know..love..elie
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT COLOR="#004080" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Lucida Sans" LANG="0">thank you!! i guess the moby-online site is just having some problems...i
<BR>don't know..love..elie
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Subject: (mobility) OT Computer Troubles.... PLEASE HELP!!!!!
Date: 20 Jan 2001 18:47:26 -0800 (PST)
Alright.
We got the DSL line hooked up.
First I can't use Windows Media Player anymore to
listen to online radio. In desperation, I dl
RealPlayer, and that works. Fine.
Now, I can't use either of those. Whenever we connect
onto the internet, it brings up the Dial-Up screen,
despite the fact that it's already connected by DSL.
And when I try to use the Windows Media Player OR the
Real Player, it says it's not connected, and brings up
the stupid Dial-Up screen again.
WHAT THE MOTHER FUCK?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Please, PLEASE, somebody tell me how to fix this, or
how to find out how to fix this. I can't stand this.
This is the motherfucking future, we should be allowed
to do whatever the fuck we want on these damn
computers, when we want, and not have to worry about
stupid shit like this. We got a whole new computer and
a whole new DSL connection shit to avoid shit like
this, WE DO NOT DESERVE THIS SHIT.......
Sorry, I know I am overreacting, but technology is my
enemy, I HATE computers, I hate shit like this..... if
it weren't for all you cool people, I wouldn't even be
here........
Thanks in advance.
Anyway
ROCK!
DJ PAUL
=====
"I don't really have any interest. I mean, everybody is related, everybody shares the same DNA to some extent. So there is somebody in the world whom I share a little more DNA with. Maybe if I need a blood transfusion or something I should find him.... I am actually a space alien myself." Moby, about his long-lost half brother
ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ PAUL, host of Chester's Blanket Fort, 89.5 FM/wpkn.org
In a message dated 1/21/01 4:40:22 PM Pacific Standard Time,
martin@martinjames.demon.co.uk writes:
> Here's another question: would Moby's music sound the way it does if he had
>
I seriously doubt it.
In asking the question, I in no way meant to imply that one was inferior. It
was just a classification issue. I have huge respect for DJ's (good ones at
least) because I could never do it.
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 1/21/01 4:40:22 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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<BR>
<BR>
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Here's another question: would Moby's music sound the way it does if he had
<BR>never been a DJ?</BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR>
<BR>I seriously doubt it.
<BR>
<BR>In asking the question, I in no way meant to imply that one was inferior. It
<BR>was just a classification issue. I have huge respect for DJ's (good ones at
<BR>least) because I could never do it.
<BR>
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if you think Moby has had it rough with V2, have you
heard about what Curve are going through? They
finished their new album a long time ago, and not only
are Universal not releasing it, they dropped them from
the label, and aren't even giving them the rights to
their own music back so they can release it on an
indie! wtf!!!!!!!!!!!!
Major labels deserve CHINESE TORTURE (haha get it
curve fans? ;)
ROCK!
DJ PAUL
=====
"I don't really have any interest. I mean, everybody is related, everybody shares the same DNA to some extent. So there is somebody in the world whom I share a little more DNA with. Maybe if I need a blood transfusion or something I should find him.... I am actually a space alien myself." Moby, about his long-lost half brother
ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ PAUL, host of Chester's Blanket Fort, 89.5 FM/wpkn.org
"I don't really have any interest. I mean, everybody is related, everybody shares the same DNA to some extent. So there is somebody in the world whom I share a little more DNA with. Maybe if I need a blood transfusion or something I should find him.... I am actually a space alien myself." Moby, about his long-lost half brother
ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ PAUL, host of Chester's Blanket Fort, 89.5 FM/wpkn.org
<P>any moby fan that doesn't do this probably doesn't belong on the mailing list...lol...</P>
<P>and does anyone know of any good places to find moby concerts? i have been looking for them on Napster, but the only one i can seem to find is the Homelands cancert from last year, and they really rushed him off. i'd like to find some older concerts, and if anyone had some advice, it would gladly be appreciated.</P>
<P> Jason<BR><BR></P></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>>From: Eric <STALE8975@EXCITE.COM>
<DIV></DIV>>Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com
<DIV></DIV>>To: mobility@lists.xmission.com
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: Re: (mobility) Napster...
<DIV></DIV>>Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 07:51:43 -0800 (PST)
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>> Maybe you could get out your Moby CD's and give a listen once in a
<DIV></DIV>>while:)
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Eric The BoRed
<DIV></DIV>>
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