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klr650-digest        Wednesday, April 14 1999        Volume 02 : Number 279




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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:25:40 -0500
From: David M. King <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR Web Ring

Sarah wrote:

> or two, you find that Mr. Berlin is a Christian Motorcyclist. Let's all
> email
> him and ask him to kill his webring so we can use it for its intended
> purpose - proseltyzing about the KLR.

If Mr. Berlin cannot be persuaded to give up his web ring then
a new one could be started called the DSN KLR650 web ring or something
similar.

Gino might want to start one that is just based around the DSN so that
members that have other brands of dual-sports can add their pages.

I did some more checking on that site and it looks like Mr. Berlin
got a little overzealous in starting web rings.  He also has Dual Sport,
BMW GS, and BMW F650 web rings all of which don't appear to work.

David M. King

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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 19:22:26 +0000
From: Sarah Barwig <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Re: Webring.

Sorry about the confusion, my previous post was a cc of the letter I
sent to the guy who owns the other webring with the name "KLR 650
webring" . It's a better name and will come up first in searches for
those who are looking, but in case he doesn't check his email anymore, I
decided to take alternative action.

So I created a new webring called "live KLR 650 webring". I'll spend a
bit of time reading up on
what this entails, then I'll post to the list how to get your site
added. Monday at the latest. I'll
handle administration for now, unless someone else has the spare time to
devote to it.

Sarah

   Vik Banerjee wrote:

   > I have been poking around F650 and Transalp websites looking at
pics and
   > different travel stories.  Both have been setup on webrings which
makes
   > finding them very easy.  Having reformatted my HD's a couple times
and
   > working off 4 PCs I rarely have all the links relating to KLRs that
I would
   > like at hand.
   >
   > I was wondering if a KLR web ring wouldn't be a neat way of tying
all these
   > sites together.  I am not sure how to start one.  Anyone have any
ideas?
   >
   > Cheers,
   >
   > Vik

 --
Sarah Barwig
Developer
WeddingChannel.com
[phone]
888 S. Figueroa St., Suite 700
Los Angeles, CA, 90017

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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:39:08 -0600
From: "Pokluda, Gino F" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (klr650) Re: Webring.

>>So I created a new webring called "live KLR 650 webring". I'll spend a
bit of time reading up on
what this entails, then I'll post to the list how to get your site
added. Monday at the latest. I'll
handle administration for now, unless someone else has the spare time to
devote to it.<<

You go girl!


Gino

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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:21:18 +0100
From: "Andy Burton" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) NKLR Dual sport Harleys

Does anyone know anything about the dual sport Harleys that have Rotax
engines that are made for the military?
I may have an opportunity to purchase one and would welcome any comments.
thanks - Andy

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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:44:15 -0500
From: "Tom Meagher" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Re. Ted Palmer Big Bore KLR

Jim,
I have just got to say "You the MAN!"
It appears you have made a good start on exploring the envelope of KLR power
gains.  Wow.

It makes you wonder how the BMW team got "75" horsepower out the F650 Rotax
motor,
because architecturally they seem so similar, on the surface anyway.
I mean, Kawasaki engines are normally noted for their strong output
potential.

With different cams and carburetion do you think it could make 75?
If carburetor size is a problem, then fuel injection?

Respectfully,
Tom Meagher
V-Max -> A13


>   Hi guys my name is Jim Ruggles, I have a 95 KLR  with 4" bore.This is
101.6 MM. The eng has at this
> time abought 24 000 MI on it and is still running strong. This is abought
as big as you dare go with stock
> head gskt. Head gskt. works fine with bore size, my engine at this time
makes 52 hp @ 7000 RPM and
> 46 ft. lbs. torq @ 4000 . The pist is a Cosworth for a stage 2 Buick V6,
with a little work it will go in .
[...]

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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:18:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Rev. Chuck MacKarness" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) (NKLR) KLR WEB Ring Stuff

Here is an e-mail I sent to the web ring page owner:

Brian and Michele Berlin
My name is Rev. Chuck MacKarness, I ride a dual sport
KLR 650 and I am a minister. I notice your site once,
will or was planned to have pages dedicated to the KLR
650.

Please note below the request of one of our group
members:
Well, I went to <http://www.webring.org/> seems
someone has already created a KLR 650 webring. But it
has 0 sites. And the site they link to doesn't exist,
but if you go back in the url a directory or two, you
find that Mr. Berlin is a Christian Motorcyclist.
Let's all email him and ask him to kill his webring so
we can use it for its intended purpose - proseltyzing
about the KLR.
And I see you may have contacted already, I hope I am
not intruding, but could you possibly help us out? We
have a great many subscribers to the list server, you
could benifit directly by allowing one of us create
and manage a page on your site to link to the rest of
the known KLR world, or you could give up your venture
for us to utilize?

Please respond if you are able.

Rev. Chuck MacKarness
"Do The Right Thing"
:^) >+

Maybe they will give it up without $$$

===
Rev. Chuck
'99 KLR651
:^)>+



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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 18:48:51 -0400
From: Bryan Moody <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR (First Gear Pants)

I bought the First Gear pants to match my Kilmanjaro jacket too.  With a
32 inch inseam they are WAAAY long.  Took them back and bought a pair of
Aerostich Darien pants.  More expensive, but  much higher quality, plus
they fit correctly.

The customer service at Aerostich is second to none.

As always, YMMV.
- --
Bryan Moody
Greensboro, NC
86 Concours, 94 KLR650
COG Southeast Area Director http://www.concours.org/se

IBA: BBG, CCC Gold




Allan Phipps wrote:
>
> Hi Fred,
>
> I saw your post about First Gear products.
>
> >I can sell you a First Gear Kilimanjaro HT Jacket for just over $290.  These
> >are regularly sold for $325 and are great jackets.
>
> I am a new rider and just bought a Kilimanjaro jacket and Hypertex
> overpants.  Although I haven't been able to use them (we still have snow
> here) I think they will work well.
>
> I have a question about the pants. I'm just under 6 feet tall and I bought
> a size 34.  They fit well except the legs seem to be long.  When I'm
> standing, the knee padding starts about mid-kneecap.  (when I sit on a
> bike, the knee padding does lift up a bit).  The dealer I bought from in
> Canada said that they fit that way on most people.  Do you know if it is
> possible to have the pants altered to shorten the legs and raise the knee
> padding?  I figure it would work to take a section of leg out right above
> the knee.  What do you think?  Any idea who could do a good job of
> something like that?
>
> Also, how much do you charge for a brighter headlight for the KLR?  I would
> like something brighter, but I don't want to have to modify wiring.
>
> Al
> 96 KLR
> Fort St. John, BC

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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 99 19:09:57 Pacific Daylight Time
From: JAMES RUGGLES <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) KLR Air pump!! and a good one

  Tom Meagher ask if it would be possible to make over 75 HP from a KLR? IMHO yes!!
     The  ENG . is just an air pump! What HP show's up at the rear wheel is deter maned  by how much
 air and fuel has flowed through the eng. and how efficienctly it is burned. To make 70+ HP would
 require a less restricted intake  and  bigger camshaft's which would require that we turn more RPM's
      My  goal when I first started my KLR  project at least 65 HP without compromising reliability.
 Well I missed on the HP but at the present power level I don't feel that I have hurt reliability, however
 the trick to making 75+ and not giving up dependability is another story. I haven't given up yet.
      If you read the full story of the F650 it was a F700!!! there's an old saying in racing there is no substitute
  for" cubic inches " .The worst enemy of eng. reliability is hi rpm's Big CUI is substitute for RPM's !!
    There are a lot 620 cc Rotax  race eng's producing over 75 hp, however they have a very short fuse!!
 I read that in the SOS racing in Europe there are some 660 YAM's . making over 85 HP @ rear wheel.
 I doubt that any of them are 660cc, but the Super Mono Ducati makes over 75+ hp for just  $25000.
 from 575cc This is a serious race bike!! Yes it can be done !!!
                                             Jim R.

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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 19:18:18 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (klr650) Need Seat KLR650

I need your tired, your torn, your tempest tossed, your unlovely, your beat
to crap (but not broken) KLR650 seat so Russell Cycle Products can do that
voodoo they do so well.

Let me know if you have one you'd like to part with. I have an A13, but I'm
guessing an model year KLR650 seat will work.

Chris Lawson

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 00:49:17 +0000
From: Sarah Barwig <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) [Fwd: KLR 650 WebRing]

The Berlins wrote:

> Sarah,Charles, Stuart, and others,
>
> Please forward this message to EVERYONE on the KLR mailing list.  I'd like
> to send it out so I'm not bomarded by duplicate e.mails.  Thanks
> Brian   Message Follows:
>
> Dear Fellow Dual-Sport/KLR 650 Riders,
> Brian Berlin, here.  I had the vision to begin several webrings a few weeks
> ago but have not finished setting them up completely.  There will be a
> KLR650 webrind, a general Dual Sport webring and a bmw GS webring.  I deeply
> apologize for not having these up yet.  I will make it a top priority to try
> to get at least the KLR 650 webring up and running by, lets say, next
> Wednesday.  That'll give me time to get the pages set up and iron out any
> bugs.  I'm not on the mailing list (don't have time to read them all) but I
> WILL CERTAINLY BE VERY HAPPY TO PROMOTE THE MAILING LIST, ETC.  I don't know
> who the official contact is for the mailing list but if HE OR SHE ONLY will
> telephone me at 409/925-4032 I'll be happy to discuss all of this so that
> we'll ensure that the webring is everything that everyone hopes it will be.
> I'm not "hogging" the name as some have suggested in private e.mails.  I
> simply haven't gotten around to getting that ring set up.  I will try to get
> this done asap!  I don't really plan on killing the ring so you can use it.
> That's not necessary.  You all can use it!  Without me killing it.  I will
> work on it tonight and see how far I can get.  Maybe we will have it up by
> weekend if I rush.
>
> Side note:  If you have a KLR 650 site that you want to add to the ring,
> please send me the URL.  This is not the official "add me" procedure but I'd
> like an unofficial census of the initial # of sites we'll be talking about.
> I'd like to have at least 5 or so to start.  The KLR ring site will be site
> 1 and I've been working on a personal dual-sport/KLR site.  That makes 2.
> How many more are out there?  I have a friend in Austin who indicated a
> desire to join.  That's 3.  Any more?
>
> Also:  What is the URL for the mailing list.  I will join while we work this
> out.  Thanks.
>
> Best regards to all,
> Brian Berlin
> Santa Fe, TX
> '88 KLR 650
>
> Sarah Barwig wrote:
>
> > You have a webring registered with http://www.webring.org for KLR
> > motorcycles. Yet you have no page where your url points. You also have a
> > webring for dualsports with no page where the url points. It seems very
> > unchristian to reserve these webrings, yet not to offer any information.
> > There is a KLR mailing list that would like to start a webring. However,
> > you have reserved the best name already and you have no instructions for
> > how to join your webring. Would it be possible for you to log on to
> > webring and free the name so that we may use it? Or else, could you make
> > available to us instructions on how to join your webring?
> >
> > Sarah
> >
> > --
> > Sarah Barwig
> > Developer
> > WeddingChannel.com
> > [phone]
> > 888 S. Figueroa St., Suite 700
> > Los Angeles, CA, 90017

- --
Sarah Barwig
Developer
WeddingChannel.com
[phone]
888 S. Figueroa St., Suite 700
Los Angeles, CA, 90017

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 00:56:43 +0000
From: Sarah Barwig <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) [Fwd: KLR 650 WebRing]

I forwarded my previous post per Brian's request - he called me on the phone at
the same time. He's willing to handle the administration of the ring. Do we wanna
let him?

I also subscribed to the ringmasters list off of WebRing. Seems their
support/server structure kinda sucks. We could go to another location. i.e.
http://www.ringsurf.com/

Before I go off half-cocked yet again, how much interest is there actually in a
KLR webring? Like how many people have sites they want linked in? Mail me off
list please.

Sarah


- --
Sarah Barwig
Developer
WeddingChannel.com
[phone]
888 S. Figueroa St., Suite 700
Los Angeles, CA, 90017

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 01:08:17 +0000
From: Sarah Barwig <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) [Fwd: KLR 650 WebRing]

Basically, I create (or Brian creates, or whoever's in charge of this thing
anyway) an html snippet and some graphics. Every page in the ring puts this
html snippet and graphics on their page. Then from one page in the ring, you
can link to the next page in the ring. Last one links back to the first one,
hence ring. If you want examples, I can dig some up somewhere.

You can change the order of the ring, so the popular sites can lend hits to the
less popular sites (people are most likely to hit next only once or maybe
twice, as opposed to browsing the whole ring like brother Arne tends to. :)

Sarah

Fred Hink wrote:

> Hi Sarah,
>
> You can count me in but first explain to me just what a web ring is.
>
> Fred
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Sarah Barwig <[e-mail]>
> To: KLR list <[e-mail]>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 6:56 PM
> Subject: Re: (klr650) [Fwd: KLR 650 WebRing]
>
> > I forwarded my previous post per Brian's request - he called me on the
> phone at
> > the same time. He's willing to handle the administration of the ring. Do
> we wanna
> > let him?
> >
> > I also subscribed to the ringmasters list off of WebRing. Seems their
> > support/server structure kinda sucks. We could go to another location.
> i.e.
> > http://www.ringsurf.com/
> >
> > Before I go off half-cocked yet again, how much interest is there actually
> in a
> > KLR webring? Like how many people have sites they want linked in? Mail me
> off
> > list please.
> >
> > Sarah
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sarah Barwig
> > Developer
> > WeddingChannel.com
> > [phone]
> > 888 S. Figueroa St., Suite 700
> > Los Angeles, CA, 90017
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

- --
Sarah Barwig
Developer
WeddingChannel.com
[phone]
888 S. Figueroa St., Suite 700
Los Angeles, CA, 90017

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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 19:07:07 -0700
From: "Arne Larsen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) [Fwd: KLR 650 WebRing]

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Sarah Barwig <[e-mail]>
To: KLR list <[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: (klr650) [Fwd: KLR 650 WebRing]

Do you mean this "Brother Arne"?

> I forwarded my previous post per Brian's request - he called me on the
phone at
> the same time. He's willing to handle the administration of the ring. Do
we wanna
> let him?

Sure, why not?  He's taken the time to phone you, and he's got a KLR - he
can't be all bad = )  How far apart are the two of you - or maybe that
doesn't matter - but would the both of you be able to look after it?  Two
heads are often better than one - especially if one of them's Klingon.
(Please don't take this the wrong way Sarah) I think you came down a little
hard on the guy in a couple of ways:  We didn't know how long ago he
reserved the name (which as it turns out was only a few weeks ago); and I'm
hoping you weren't being too serious about the 'unchristian' comment.  Being
as I've got about half a dozen unfinished projects on the go myself, I'm
feeling a little sympathetic.

> Before I go off half-cocked yet again, how much interest is there actually
in a
> KLR webring

I don't know but I can see Vik sitting back wondering what he's started. = )
Actually it's probably a good thing.  Many people are portable, or work from
a number of different sites.  And more people could potentially find their
way into this wonderful world of KLR's.

Keep up the enthusiasm!

Arne

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