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From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #252 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Thursday, April 8 1999 Volume 02 : Number 252 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:54:56 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" <ajax@xmission.com> Subject: (klr650) Dave Cook (sp) ?... Wondering if Dave Cook (sp)...the lister I met at Furnace Creek from New York could send me an offlist note so I have your email address...thanks, sorry for the bandwidth use... Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 16:57:36 -0600 From: Kurt Simpson <ajax@xmission.com> Subject: (klr650) LIGHTGUARD This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------DE91789C52988FCFAB001D6B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DualStar's lightguard is now on the KLR webpage. Give it a look. It installs in seconds... http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/dualstar/lightguard.html Kurt - --------------DE91789C52988FCFAB001D6B Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii; name="lightguard.html" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="lightguard.html" Content-Base: "http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/duals tar/lightguard.html" Content-Location: "http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/duals tar/lightguard.html" <HTML> <HEAD> <META NAME="GENERATOR" CONTENT="Adobe PageMill 3.0 Win"> <TITLE>LIGHTGUARD </TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> <CENTER>LIGHTGUARD </CENTER> <IMG SRC="lighguard.gif" WIDTH="297" HEIGHT="167" ALIGN="LEFT" BORDER="0" NATURALSIZEFLAG="3">You see it coming but there's nothing you can do to avoid it, there's a sickening thwack! and you hear the sound of a cash register go ching! ching! ching! (A NEW HEADLIGHT FOR A BMW R1100GS IS $150.18!) Your buddy's rear tire just propelled a big square rock straight into your headlight, and now you have a long ride back in the dark to think about how you could have avoided this predicament by using the LIGHTGUARD. A fantastic way to protect those really expensive headlight lenses on your street, Dual Sport or off-road motorcycle. Cut of 80 mil vinyl to fit most popular motorcycle headlight configurations. Has a high heat, high strength, industrial 3M pressure sensitive adhesive and mounts in seconds. Will not yellow, or alter appearance or clarity of headlight, even cleans like glass and is D.O.T. approved. Need we say more? ITEM # DESCRIPTION PRICE QTY 20-01030 LITEGUARD - ACERBIS HP $10.95 EACH 20-01046 LITEGUARD - BMW F650 $14.95 EACH 20-01041 LITEGUARD - BMW R100 GS $16.95 EACH 20-01040 LITEGUARD - BMW R1100 GS $18.95 EACH 20-01042 LITEGUARD - BMW R80 GS $14.95 EACH 20-01032 LITEGUARD - HONDA XR $9.95 EACH 20-01031 LITEGUARD - HONDA XRL/XL $12.95 EACH 20-01037 LITEGUARD - KAWASAKI KLR/KLX 87- $12.95 EACH 20-01045 LITEGUARD - KTM ADVENTURE $16.95 PAIR 20-01038 LITEGUARD - KTM EXC 93-99 $10.95 EACH 20-01039 LITEGUARD - KTM RXC/LC4 95-99 $10.95 EACH 20-01043 LITEGUARD - SUZUKI DR 650 90-95 $12.95 EACH 20-01044 LITEGUARD - SUZUKI DR 650 96-99 $12.95 EACH 20-01036 LITEGUARD - SUZUKI DR 90-99 $12.95 EACH 20-01035 LITEGUARD - SUZUKI DRS 90-99 $12.95 EACH 20-01047 LITEGUARD - TRIUMPH TIGER $16.95 PAIR 20-01033 LITEGUARD - YAMAHA XT225/600 91-99 $14.95 EACH 20-01034 LITEGUARD - YAMAHA XT350/600 85-99 $12.95 EACH <CENTER><A HREF="index.html">Return to DualStar Page </A> </CENTER> </BODY> </HTML> - --------------DE91789C52988FCFAB001D6B-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:30:14 -0700 From: "Phil Kopp" <pckopp@home.com> Subject: RE: (klr650) KLR Article Rider May '99 Vik Banerjee wonders: > > Having finally read the article "King KLR" in the May 99 Rider I am a bit > disappointed. I am glad the KLR got some press, but some of the > accessories > they picked were dumb or just weird and they left out some really obvious > ones. Why didn't they just get Gino to write the article...or at > least look at the KLR webpage...oh well. I think you have to remember that mailing lists like this one and brand specific Web pages are COMPETITION for the traditional press, not sources for editorial content. The nice folks who write and edit those articles get paid to do it. And like real estate brokers, they're not too excited about 'For Sale by Owner' signs. Magazine editors and writers rarely get the opportunity to really specialize in one machine like we do. Sure, they are experienced with motorcycles and understand a lot of what makes bikes perform better. But we all talk (and type) about the same bike every day. Many of us work on them everyday. Many of us ride them everyday in all kinds of conditions. Collectively we've tried EVERY option and accessory available. And this list, like most others, is not afraid to say what it thinks about all those accessories. Magazines just can't do that. A story like the one in Rider magazine is primarily about advertising. Sure, the bike ended up a lot better than it was. Big deal. Write Fred a check for that kind of money and you'll get a helluva lot better bike back than the one you dropped off. Of course a 5 gal plastic tank isn't worth hundreds of dollars, but it is to Baja Designs to get exposure for the product. And its probably cheaper than OEM if you crunched your original. I'm on several lists. Several things are pretty common on every bike list. Suspension upgrades, brake upgrades, pipe and jet kits, tires, luggage, tricks of the trade and how-to's specific to the particular bike. Its that kind of information that brings us all here in the first place. When you make a few friends along the way its so much the better. Magazines have traditionally been the connection between products and their intended market. We on the internet with our Web pages and mailing lists are giving them a run for their money and they haven't quite figured out how to respond. IMHO - -Phil '93 KLR650 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:27:29 EDT From: LawsonCL@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Headlight gaurd Scott, Unless you want the rugged, manly look of a wire guard, now favored by the SUV princess moms in suburban Denver, I suggest you check out the clear vinyl guard from Griot's Garage. Peel and stick right onto the lens surface. They claim it'll protect a headlight from breaking under the impact of a pellet gun at 20 feet. They don't say how powerful the pellet gun is, however. Anyway, I've used the stuff on two Beemers in our gravely environment with no headlight breakage. 800-345-5789 www.griotsgarage.com Cat. No. 10227 is 10" X 16", $22.95 Cat. No. 10228 is 20" X 16", $39.95 A little planning and judicious cutting means you can do several motorcycle headlights even with the smaller sheet. << What is the best option for a headlight gaurd. I've heard lockhart makes one but I can't find one what do they look like. I guess what Iam looking for is a wire screen type Thanks, Scott Wass >> Chris Lawson KLR 650 (A13, now one day on the road) And some other bikes ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 16:35:27 -0700 From: Christopher J Beasley <chris_beasley@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR The New World Order Dictionary > aerostich (noun) - a gore-tex thong for men made for KLR riding, "What's > wrong Arnie?...My aerostich is cutting me in two!" > > Cheers, > > Vik Quit it Vik! Yer KILLIN me! beez ;-P ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:36:10 EDT From: RUSIG1@aol.com Subject: (klr650) purchase Greetings from Idaho. Today I bought a 99 650 ended up getting it for 4804.53 out the door (cash)the base price was 4536.00 it seemed to be a pretty good deal.I know this is a loaded question but what would be the first things I should do to this bike to get it up to speed?Also is the extended warranty worth purchasing?I pick the bike up tomorrow.thanks ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 18:53:48 -0500 From: Phil <moto1@fgi.net> Subject: Re: (klr650) UNSUBSCRIBE!! I really what to unsubscribe please help ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:48:51 -0700 From: Tom Myers <TomMyers@cycoactive.com> Subject: Re: (klr650) purchase >I know this is a loaded question but what would be the first things I >should do to this bike to get it up to speed? 5th gear would be the most effective and I believe it comes standard.... :<) Tom P.S. You left yourself pretty vulnerable thought maybe I was the first. Was I? P.P.S. Congrats on your new bike. Should be a good summer! +-------------------------------------------+ | CycoActive Products | 701 34th Ave | Seattle, WA 98122 USA | | Design/Manufacture of Motorcycling Accessories | webpage: http://www.cycoactive.com/mc | e-mail: moto@cycoactive.com | tel (206) 323-2349 fax (206) 325-6016 +-------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:39:31 EDT From: LawsonCL@aol.com Subject: (klr650) UNSUBSCRIBE? HAH! NEVER! Poor bastard neglected to read the instructions and is now condemned to live forever in KLR650 list minutiae hell. Hope he pays closer attention to the printed maintenance guidelines that accompany KLR650s. Chris Lawson << On 4/1/99 I sent a request to be "UNSUBSCRIBED" from the list and it has not happened. I am uncertain as to whether I have complied with your requirements to be removed from your list or not. if I have not please inform me how to achieve this. Thank you. >> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 19:07:28 -0500 From: Alan Henderson <al.henderson@brain.ames.net> Subject: Re: (klr650) purchase At 07:36 PM 4/8/99 EDT, you wrote: >Greetings from Idaho. Today I bought a 99 650 ended up getting it for 4804.53 >out the door (cash)the base price was 4536.00 it seemed to be a pretty good >deal.I know this is a loaded question but what would be the first things I >should do to this bike to get it up to speed? Make sure there is proper air pressure in the tires, oil in the engine, coolant in the cooling system and possibly the rear suspension set for your weight. And no, the number one setting is not proper if you weigh 360 lbs. Put gas in the gas tank and go ride! Yes the front end dives quite a bit but you don't need to do anything yet just be aware of it. Did I mention going and riding the bike? Alan Henderson, Iowa A13 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:48:36 EDT From: LawsonCL@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) New List Member Dan Shaw inquires: << also, id like to know what advantages the klr has over the bmw r100gs pd which was actually my first choice but way too expensive.>> As of yesterday afternoon, I own one of each. I know the KLR and the Beemer are about dead even in a drag race up to 85 mph because it has been scientifically proven by a buddy riding his KLR against my GS/PD. So far, I'd say you have 100+% of a GS's capabilities at about 75% of the weight. Chris Lawson ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:07:33 -0600 From: "Vik Banerjee" <marbach@nucleus.com> Subject: Re: (klr650) Headlight gaurd The peel and stick stuff from dual-star is exactly the same stuff sold in auto parts stores for cars - the only difference is the dual-start item is cut to fit your KLR and its more expensive. I bought a big sheet of the car stuff and did my GS500 as well. Cheers, Vik - -----Original Message----- From: LawsonCL@aol.com <LawsonCL@aol.com> To: dswass@northernnet.com <dswass@northernnet.com> Cc: KLR650@lists.xmission.com <KLR650@lists.xmission.com> Date: Thursday, April 08, 1999 5:30 PM Subject: Re: (klr650) Headlight gaurd >Scott, > >Unless you want the rugged, manly look of a wire guard, now favored by the >SUV princess moms in suburban Denver, I suggest you check out the clear vinyl >guard from Griot's Garage. Peel and stick right onto the lens surface. They >claim it'll protect a headlight from breaking under the impact of a pellet >gun at 20 feet. They don't say how powerful the pellet gun is, however. > >Anyway, I've used the stuff on two Beemers in our gravely environment with no >headlight breakage. > >800-345-5789 >www.griotsgarage.com > >Cat. No. 10227 is 10" X 16", $22.95 >Cat. No. 10228 is 20" X 16", $39.95 > >A little planning and judicious cutting means you can do several motorcycle >headlights even with the smaller sheet. > > ><< What is the best option for a headlight gaurd. I've heard lockhart > makes one but I can't find one what do they look like. I guess what Iam > looking for is a wire screen type > Thanks, > Scott Wass >> > >Chris Lawson >KLR 650 (A13, now one day on the road) >And some other bikes > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:27:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Juan Villarreal <villarrealjuan@yahoo.com> Subject: (klr650) Headlight gaurd > The peel and stick stuff from dual-star is > exactly the same stuff sold in > auto parts stores for cars Hey Vik (or anyone else)! Where on the bike does the adhesive make it's contact? Does it "glue" directly onto the light or on the fairing surrounding it? I'm talking about the Dual Star model here... Thanks in advance... Juan Villarreal, '97 KLR "The Happy Hooligan" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:20:15 -0600 From: "Vik Banerjee" <marbach@nucleus.com> Subject: (klr650) NKLR - list ettiquete snipped from the DR350 list: >One thing I would like to add is that all words typed should be acceptable >to all ages & not turn this into an "R" rated list like the KLR list is. I sort of assumed that the list was largely if not excessively above the age of majority and that language suitable for adults was appropriate. I am not suggesting we swear every second word or get into explicit sexual discussions, but some divergence from what you'd say in front of your mom seems reasonable. It never occurred to me that this might be a problem. Do we have a definition of what's acceptable in terms of these issues? I don't mind living with whatever the lists wants, but I don't know what that is. If I am over the line somebody let me know and I'll straighten up. Cheers, Vik ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:22:22 -0600 From: "Vik Banerjee" <marbach@nucleus.com> Subject: Re: (klr650) Headlight gaurd It sticks to the glass itself....sort of like those laminates you see on windows that are suppose to resist break-in attempts. Vik - -----Original Message----- From: Juan Villarreal <villarrealjuan@yahoo.com> To: KLR 650 <KLR650@lists.xmission.com> Date: Thursday, April 08, 1999 6:26 PM Subject: (klr650) Headlight gaurd >> The peel and stick stuff from dual-star is >> exactly the same stuff sold in >> auto parts stores for cars > >Hey Vik (or anyone else)! Where on the bike does >the adhesive make it's contact? Does it "glue" >directly onto the light or on the fairing >surrounding it? I'm talking about the Dual Star >model here... Thanks in advance... > >Juan Villarreal, '97 KLR >"The Happy Hooligan" >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 16:57:36 -0600 From: Kurt Simpson <ajax@xmission.com> Subject: (klr650) LIGHTGUARD This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------DE91789C52988FCFAB001D6B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DualStar's lightguard is now on the KLR webpage. Give it a look. It installs in seconds... http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/dualstar/lightguard.html Kurt - --------------DE91789C52988FCFAB001D6B Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii; name="lightguard.html" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="lightguard.html" Content-Base: "http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/duals tar/lightguard.html" Content-Location: "http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/duals tar/lightguard.html" <HTML> <HEAD> <META NAME="GENERATOR" CONTENT="Adobe PageMill 3.0 Win"> <TITLE>LIGHTGUARD </TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> <CENTER>LIGHTGUARD </CENTER> <IMG SRC="lighguard.gif" WIDTH="297" HEIGHT="167" ALIGN="LEFT" BORDER="0" NATURALSIZEFLAG="3">You see it coming but there's nothing you can do to avoid it, there's a sickening thwack! and you hear the sound of a cash register go ching! ching! ching! (A NEW HEADLIGHT FOR A BMW R1100GS IS $150.18!) Your buddy's rear tire just propelled a big square rock straight into your headlight, and now you have a long ride back in the dark to think about how you could have avoided this predicament by using the LIGHTGUARD. A fantastic way to protect those really expensive headlight lenses on your street, Dual Sport or off-road motorcycle. Cut of 80 mil vinyl to fit most popular motorcycle headlight configurations. Has a high heat, high strength, industrial 3M pressure sensitive adhesive and mounts in seconds. Will not yellow, or alter appearance or clarity of headlight, even cleans like glass and is D.O.T. approved. Need we say more? ITEM # DESCRIPTION PRICE QTY 20-01030 LITEGUARD - ACERBIS HP $10.95 EACH 20-01046 LITEGUARD - BMW F650 $14.95 EACH 20-01041 LITEGUARD - BMW R100 GS $16.95 EACH 20-01040 LITEGUARD - BMW R1100 GS $18.95 EACH 20-01042 LITEGUARD - BMW R80 GS $14.95 EACH 20-01032 LITEGUARD - HONDA XR $9.95 EACH 20-01031 LITEGUARD - HONDA XRL/XL $12.95 EACH 20-01037 LITEGUARD - KAWASAKI KLR/KLX 87- $12.95 EACH 20-01045 LITEGUARD - KTM ADVENTURE $16.95 PAIR 20-01038 LITEGUARD - KTM EXC 93-99 $10.95 EACH 20-01039 LITEGUARD - KTM RXC/LC4 95-99 $10.95 EACH 20-01043 LITEGUARD - SUZUKI DR 650 90-95 $12.95 EACH 20-01044 LITEGUARD - SUZUKI DR 650 96-99 $12.95 EACH 20-01036 LITEGUARD - SUZUKI DR 90-99 $12.95 EACH 20-01035 LITEGUARD - SUZUKI DRS 90-99 $12.95 EACH 20-01047 LITEGUARD - TRIUMPH TIGER $16.95 PAIR 20-01033 LITEGUARD - YAMAHA XT225/600 91-99 $14.95 EACH 20-01034 LITEGUARD - YAMAHA XT350/600 85-99 $12.95 EACH <CENTER><A HREF="index.html">Return to DualStar Page </A> </CENTER> </BODY> </HTML> - --------------DE91789C52988FCFAB001D6B-- ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V2 #252 ****************************