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klr650-digest         Tuesday, October 6 1998         Volume 01 : Number 286




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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 21:09:57 -0700
From: "Eric Rhoads" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) 2 WD ?

- -----Original Message-----
From: Christian Kindarji <[e-mail]>
To: Klr650 (E-mail) <[e-mail]>
Date: Monday, October 05, 1998 8:15 PM
Subject: (klr650) 2 WD ?


>Check this out. 2 Wheel Drive motorcycle....weiiiiird !!
>
>http://www.inforoutes-ardeche.fr/~lamast00/engl.htm

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                                   I guess this is the first bike where one
might really consider mounting the rear tire backwards.

eric

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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 23:13:11 -0500
From: "Jim Sprecker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) 2wd

I remember in those races where they take like CR500's and race dirt and
street (cant think of the name at the moment) somebody tried a 2 wheel drive
system back in the 80's.  The drive system sort of looked like that trials
bike.
Jim (can't remember squawt)
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Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 14:10:00 +1000
From: Ted Palmer <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) There's this hole...

Scott Eldredge wrote:

> I just noticed on my A12 that on the right side of the cylinder, right below
> (very close) where the water hose enters the engine, there's a small hole. Might
> be tapped. Did something fall off my bike?

RHS? Is this actually on the cylinder head near the thermostat housing?
If it is, then it is the drain hole for the spark plug well.

Not sure about them fuses, but their nothing special on a '85 600.

Mister_T

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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 22:12:21 -0700
From: "Eric Rhoads" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) 2 Wheel Drive?

  How about  'no wheel drive'?  just strap on a rocket booster.

  How about using engine to power a generator for direct motor drive of the
wheels?

  Chipmunks on meth?  (cage on each wheel)

  Large wound up coil spring on front wheel....engage it when you really
need it.

  No....stored power from a big flywheel wouldn't work except if you only
went straight.

  Add a Velo Solex engine to the front.

  did I miss anything?  (that exists in this universe......nevermind whether
I do)

eric

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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 22:55:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: Lance Rushing <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Tyre choice

Ian,

I've ran ME55 and ME33 setup on on previous bikes (but not the KLR).  My
impressions are:  I like the ME33, good grip, good in rain, good life
span.  The ME55 tended to wear a little to fast on the my bikes, but those
bikes weighed more, but the ME55 has good excellent stick in the corners,
and good wet pavement traction.  I prefered to run the ME88 in the rear.
It had much longer life (13+k compared to 5k), and good wet traction, but
it didn't grip as well in the corners.  It did slide very predicatbly,
however.

(Once I took a a 45 mph turn at around 105, with an ME33/88 setup.  Nice
gentle slide through the turn. =] )

Lance
'97 KLR 650

On Mon, 5 Oct 1998, Ian Ellison wrote:

> Gripsters ever since. I have been told that the Metzeler ME33/55A
> combination works well on the road, which is where my bike spends all its
> time. Has anyone any experience of this setup? And as my rear is due to be

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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 13:10:26 +0100 (BST)
From: Yusseri Yusoff <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Difficulty shifting into 1st -- solved (ish)

<gush>You guys, you've done it again...</gush>

Thanks for all the tips. It was the gunk from the chain lube that was
messing the gear lever up. And it was also a bit loose. Anyhow, fixed it.
I did however ignore a piece of advice -- that of not putting too much
force when tightening the bolt. Sooo, I sheared the bolt. The vision of
the top half of the bolt flying off the lever along with my spanner and
hitting the wall of the shed was a sight to behold...

Got myself a new bolt, but don't seem to have to gonads to really tighten
it now, so I can still feel the gear lever being a bit loose.

Yus

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Yusseri Yusoff / [e-mail]
http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/showstaff?Yusoff
Centre for Vision, Speech and Signal Processing
University of Surrey
Guildford GU2 5XH

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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:33:48 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (klr650) (NKLR) Nasty Notes from the list.

Ouch!!
Juan, if the notes you attached were the ones that have you up in arms, read
them again.  If not, then at least attach them so we know what you're so
pissed about.  In a public forum like this, we need to give everyone a chance
to know what's going on if anyone wants to roast another.  Maybe you had a
stressful mission and what you read was taken the wrong way, or maybe you have
every right to say what you did, but not by what was attached, in my opinion.

I just had to say something because if we start to feel like we can't write
things without being taken to the cleaners, then we destroy the concept of
what we're doing.  I have had responses on the list that I took offense to,
but when I got down to trying to figure it out, I found the humor, or the
truth.

Just my opinion, of course.  Let's get back to the important things, like
RIDING and improving our KLR's.

MN Ron (driving distance to Dennis Kirk, not always the best source, though)

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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:55:52 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: air in forks

In a message dated 10/5/1998 3:03:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time, dking-
[e-mail] writes:

<<
 > The manual specifies atmospheric pressure and that's what I run. The only
 > concern that I have with adding a pound or two is that the front fork

 The KLR specifications show the front suspension to be air-adjustable
 so it must be possible.  Exactly how to do it I don't know.  Some
 enterprising person with gauges and a low pressure air source should
 investigate.
  >>

The purpose of the air valves at the top of the forks is to let air OUT, not
to put air in. If you are riding hard off road, the oil and air will heat up
and that will increase pressure in the forks. I refer you to the (P*V)/T =
(P*V)/T foumula we all learned in freshman chemistry. The volume inside the
forks remains constant, so we can remove it from the equation. P/T = P/T What
this all means is that if the temperature goes up, the pressure goes up, and
the forks stiffen up. As the forks cool down, the fork seals will leak enough
air back in to equalize the pressure.

Besides, that's what the manual and the people at the shop tell me.

Jeff - A12

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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 08:33:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rex Hefferan <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Re: 2 WD ?

From: "Christian Kindarji"
<Check this out. 2 Wheel Drive motorcycle....weiiiiird !!
http://www.inforoutes-ardeche.fr/~lamast00/engl.htm>

Yep! and here's the original
http://www.rokon.com/products.html

Rex '93 KLR650


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Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 15:05:33 -0400
From: "J. Taylor" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) [NKLR] Gino's KTM

I guess w/ KTM's upcoming merger w/ Harley, Gino will get to share
service line space w/ the H.O.G.'s? Just don't expect them wave...?


Jake (who will deny he is a "misogynistic" Harley hater)

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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 15:18:09 -0400
From: "Robert frey" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) klr's in the mags

Hey,

Anybody else read the October issue of Rider?
KLRs and an Alaska DualSport Ride! Mighty interesting with good pics!

Robert

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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 14:50:57 -0600
From: "Josh Sammons" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) thanks to CO guys!

I just want to thank everyone that came out to the CO get together.  I
especially want to thank Rex, John, & Steve for helping me out when my KLR
started to get weird on me.  I still haven't figured out what is wrong with
it.  I also want to thank Robert, for putting me up for a couple of nights
at his place.  Let's do it again next year!
Later
Josh
'92klr650

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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 17:16:50 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (klr650) Acerbis Catalog. How long???

Does anybody know how long it usually takes to get a catalog from Acerbis? I
ordered one 3 weeks ago, and still haven't gotten it yet.

Thanks,

Bill Swindle
98' KLR650
Montgomery, IL.

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Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 16:50:59 -0500
From: Alan Henderson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) air in forks

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At 09:55 AM 10/6/98 EDT, you wrote:
>In a message dated 10/5/1998 3:03:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time, dking-
>[e-mail] writes:
>
><<
> > The manual specifies atmospheric pressure and that's what I run. The only
> > concern that I have with adding a pound or two is that the front fork
>
> The KLR specifications show the front suspension to be air-adjustable
> so it must be possible.  Exactly how to do it I don't know.  Some
> enterprising person with gauges and a low pressure air source should
> investigate.
>  >>
>
>The purpose of the air valves at the top of the forks is to let air OUT, not
>to put air in.----------
>Besides, that's what the manual and the people at the shop tell me.
>
>Jeff - A12
>
Kawasaki is contradictory on the subject. The manual states that the forks
should run at atmospheric but in the KLR650 page and the spec page on
www.kawasaki.com they say they are air adjustable. I have included both
pages as attachments. My Bultaco actually had ball and spring pressure
relief valves on the forks that I took out when installing the valve stems.
The Bulls forks worked fine and leaked no worse than they did before the
modification. I wouldn't reccomend doing this with a motocross bike but the
KLRs forks generally don't get worked as hard as a motocrossers.
                          Alan Henderson
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<TR><TD VALIGN=TOP>Engine</TD><TD> type4-stroke, DOHC, 4-valve single </TD></TR>
<TR><TD VALIGN=TOP>Displacement</TD><TD>651cc </TD></TR>
<TR><TD VALIGN=TOP>Bore x stroke</TD><TD>100.0 x 83.0mm </TD></TR>
<TR><TD VALIGN=TOP>Cooling</TD><TD>Liquid </TD></TR>
<TR><TD VALIGN=TOP>Carburetion</TD><TD>Keihin CVK40 </TD></TR>
<TR><TD VALIGN=TOP>Ignition</TD><TD>Electronic CDI </TD></TR>
<TR><TD VALIGN=TOP>Starting</TD><TD>Electric</TD></TR>
<TR><TD VALIGN=TOP>Frame</TD><TD>Semi-double cradle, high-tensile steel design </TD></TR>
<TR><TD VALIGN=TOP>Transmission</TD><TD>5-Speed </TD></TR>
<TR><TD VALIGN=TOP>Suspension type, </TD><TD>front38mm, leading-axle fork </TD></TR>
<TR><TD VALIGN=TOP>Suspension adjustments,</TD><TD> frontAir-adjustable </TD></TR>
<TR><TD VALIGN=TOP>Suspension type,</TD><TD> rearUNI-TRAK® single shock system </TD></TR>
<TR><TD VALIGN=TOP>Suspension adjustments,</TD><TD> rear5-way preload and 4-way rebound damping adjustment </TD></TR>
<TR><TD VALIGN=TOP>Wheel travel,</TD><TD> front/rear9.1/9.1 inches </TD></TR>
<TR><TD VALIGN=TOP> Tire, front</TD><TD>90/90 x 21 54S</TD></TR>
<TR><TD VALIGN=TOP>Tire, rear</TD><TD>130/80 x 17 65S</TD></TR>
<TR><TD VALIGN=TOP>Brakes,</TD><TD> front/rearDisc/Disc </TD></TR>
<TR><TD VALIGN=TOP>Seat height</TD><TD>35 inches </TD></TR>
<TR><TD VALIGN=TOP>Fuel capacity </TD><TD>6.1 gallons </TD></TR>
<TR><TD VALIGN=TOP>Dry weight</TD><TD> 338 pounds </TD></TR>
<TR><TD VALIGN=TOP>Wheelbase</TD><TD> 58.9 inches </TD></TR>
<TR><TD VALIGN=TOP>Color</TD><TD>Forest Bluish Green</TD></TR>
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<H1><P>The Kawasaki KLR650</P></H1>
<H2><P>A Multi-Purpose Machine</P></H2>

<P><BR CLEAR=3DALL><A HREF=3D"klr650_sp.html">Click for=
 specifications.</A></P>

<P>With its distinctive mini fairing up front and other street-going=
 amenities, Kawasaki's KLR650 has been likened to a touring bike.  And=
 unlike some of its dual-purpose competitors, the big KLR's street=
 intentions are not shrouded in secrecy. </P>

<P>The mighty KLR is powered by a strong, dual overhead cam, four-valve=
 651cc engine, with a heavier flywheel to slow down and smooth out the big=
 thumper's power pulses for an easier, even more tractable ride.  Liquid=
 cooling provides efficient, trouble-free operation so you don=92t have to=
 worry while on the freeway or the backroads, and dual engine=
 counterbalancers cut out unwanted vibrations for a smoother ride.   </P>

<P>A lightweight steel frame features a detachable rear subframe to ease=
 maintenance. The single-shock UNI-TRAK® rear suspension has five-way=
 preload adjustment and four-way rebound damping adjustment so you can dial=
 in the ride you want.  Up front, a sturdy 38mm air-adjustable front fork=
 makes the ride just right for the dirt or the pavement.</P>

<P>The KLR650=92s features bring smiles to the faces of adventurous=
 dual-purpose enthusiasts the world over. The frame-mounted fairing with=
 windscreen, handguards and a substantial rear luggage rack are at the top=
 of the list. A long-range fuel tank with a 6.1 gallon capacity makes=
 getting from point to point fun, not worrisome.  Listed among the standard=
 equipment on the KLR650 are an engine skid plate and a stainless steel=
 exhaust system equipped with a U.S.F.S. approved spark arrester.</P>

<P>Plus, Kawasaki features many accessories to outfit your KLR650, such as=
 soft saddle bags,  for long distance touring.  But wherever you like to=
 ride, the KLR650 will take you there in comfort with just enough=
 performance mixed in to make it fun.  Just ask the adventurous group of=
 riders who road KLR650s from Los Angeles to Argentina for charity.  It was=
 a 14,000 mile trip, then one rider turned around and rode back for a total=
 40,000 miles.  Obviously the KLR650 was up to the task.</P>

<P>Top Features:</P>


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<LI>The 651cc liquid-cooled engine produces lots of torque and the=
 five-speed transmission allows for excellent acceleration with relaxed=
 engine rpm at highway speeds</LI></UL>



<UL>
<LI>The specially padded seat increases comfort when covering the long=
 distances made possible by the KLR650=92s  extra large 6.1 gallon fuel=
 tank</LI></UL>



<UL>
<LI>A mini fairing and hand guards help shield the rider from the wind for=
 added comfort</LI></UL>



<UL>
<LI>The KLR is also fitted with a rack at the rear of the seat which can=
 accommodate soft luggage for extended trips</LI></UL>
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