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klr650-digest        Tuesday, September 8 1998        Volume 01 : Number 226




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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 12:26:50 -0600
From: "Fred Hink" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) UTAH RALLY 99

- -----Original Message-----
From: John W. Houchins --UNMCVM(JWHOUCHI) <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Tuesday, September 08, 1998 10:06 AM
Subject: (klr650) UTAH RALLY 99


>From:  John W. Houchins  --UNMCVM(JWHOUCHI)
>
>Gino, Bill, anyone,
>
>What are the dates for the rally in Utah for 99?
>
>John Houchins (almost done with the crutches, and ridin again!)
>
>
>

I believe the '99 Moab Get Together will be June 4 - 6.  Some are planning
to be here earlier than that.  I have changed computers and I have lost my
records of the date for next years rally, but I think this is correct, if
not I am sure we will all hear about it.  Right Gino?

Fred Hink
Arrowhead Motorsports

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Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 14:21:26
From: "r. kaub" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Service

I called Aerostich today to order a liner for the Darien jacket I bought
about a month or so ago. I didn't get the liner when I bought the jacket
because of fiscal deficiencies.
I politely asked the nice saleslady if she would consider charging me the
price of the liner as if it were purchased with the jacket or $120 vs. the
$167 for a liner purchased separately.  After checking, she agreed to
charge the lower price.  I was very pleased as I was fully prepared to pay
the $167 since I chose not to buy the liner originally.
Ya can't beat that kind of service!   Go Aerostich!
Tell your friends.  Thanks.
Bob Kaub
State University of New York
PO Box 6000
Binghamton, NY  13902
607-777-2715

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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 14:34:41 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (klr650) how to get out of the list

I receive the EMail at work and can not keep up with it.

Can you sign me out, Please.

Thanks,

Yann

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Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 13:12:40 -0600
From: Kurt Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) [Fwd: BOUNCE [e-mail]:    Non-member submission from ["Andres Carlstein" <[e-mail]>]]

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Date: 8 Sep 1998 12:42:57 -0400
From: "Andres Carlstein" <[e-mail]>
Subject: "Inert" gases
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Hi everyone,

I have been a fan of this list for a while (I am the proud owner of a 99 KLR),
but until today I have not found it necessary to reply.  Please forgive my
belated tirade on this subject, but I have been behind on reading the KLR
digest.  I am writing in response to the comments about Fred Hink's "inert"
Nitrogen comment.  No one seems to have tried to defend him too much, so I
feel that I must.

I would like to point out that my esteemed fellow rider, Jeff, is for the most
part correct.  However, in Fred's defense, there are several things that
should be noted.  First of all, everything is relative.  In most
circumstances, yes, the noble gases are "inert" (By the way, inert does not
mean unreactive, it means "very slow to move or act" [react]).  However, Argon
and Xenon (two "inert" noble gases) have both been known to form compounds.

As far as Nitrogen's reactivity is concerned, at STP (standard temperature and
pressure), Nitrogen gas (two Nitrogen atoms with a triple bond) is HIGHLY
unreactive, and for all intents and purposes can be defined as inert.  In
order to "fix" nitrogen (break the nitrogen triple bond so that the Nitrogen
atoms can be combined with different atoms), one needs to use either nitrogen
fixing bacteria, which overcome the high activation energy with catalyzing
enzymes, or one needs huge amounts of pressure and extemely high temperatures.
 So, in most circumstances on Earth, including inside the shock absorber of a
motorcycle, Nitrogen is (for our purposes) inert.

Yes, the Nitrogen containing compounds that Jeff mentioned are indeed highly
reactive.  It is the breaking of those three bonds, and the reforming of them
into lower energy compounds that creates this explosive reactivity.  However,
these compounds are very different from Nitrogen gas, which I have some
experience with in both organic and general chemistry labs.  Nitrogen gas is
used as a propellant for gas chromatography, a cleaning and drying agent, and
because it is so unreactive (and makes up about 70% of our atmosphere), it is
not dangerous to inhale.  All of these facts are testaments to Nitrogen's
relative "inertness."

I would ask that in the future, let's not get hung up on the trivia that we
can all find in a science text, and instead focus on the practical knowledge
that will help us enjoy our bikes more--knowledge that people like Fred have.
If we discourage people like him from contributing for fear of being
constantly corrected, then we lose a valuable resource.

I do appreciate all attempts to enlighten and broaden our knowledge base,
provided that we do it by encouraging each other : )  Thank you for listening
to my two cents, and please forgive me if I seem a bit harsh--that is not my
intention.  Thanks Fred, for your valuable advice about motorcycling, and keep
it coming!

Sincerely,
Andres Carlstein

>I dunno Jeff, seems to me it is correct or not. I don't see how it can be
>_far_ from correct. Maybe even almost right!
>
>Jim
>
By definition, the inert gasses are the noble gasses, which are on the far
right hand column of the periodic table.  These gasses are inert because
they posses a full shell of outer valence electrons, and thus are
unreactive.

Nitrogen, on the other hand, is in group five, with an atomic number of 7.
(seven protons, seven electrons).  It thus has two electrons in its inner
shell, and five electrons in its outer shell, thus "wanting" three more
electrons to complete its outer valence shell, and thus is very reactive.
The nitrogen cycle in the earth, in which nitrogen flows from being
atmospheric gas, to being "fixed" into complex organic compounds, or simple
nitrogen bearing compounds, are some of the most complex, and some of the
most important to life.

In the lab, I have seen some very spectacular and explosive reactions done
with nitrogen gas.  Consider these compounds made with nitrogen:
Nitroglycerin and Trinitrotoluene.

So yes, calling nitrogen inert is far from correct.

Jeff





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Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 13:18:00 -0600
From: Kurt Simpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) UTAH RALLY 99

Fred Hink wrote:
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John W. Houchins --UNMCVM(JWHOUCHI) <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
> Date: Tuesday, September 08, 1998 10:06 AM
> Subject: (klr650) UTAH RALLY 99
>
> >From:  John W. Houchins  --UNMCVM(JWHOUCHI)
> >
> >Gino, Bill, anyone,
> >
> >What are the dates for the rally in Utah for 99?
> >
> >John Houchins (almost done with the crutches, and ridin again!)
> >
> >
> >
>
> I believe the '99 Moab Get Together will be June 4 - 6.  Some are planning
> to be here earlier than that.  I have changed computers and I have lost my
> records of the date for next years rally, but I think this is correct, if
> not I am sure we will all hear about it.  Right Gino?
>
> Fred Hink
> Arrowhead Motorsports

I have down June 3-5...

Kurt A12

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Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 13:03:07 PDT
From: "josh sammons" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Red River Rally!

I just got back for Red River for the 1998 FSSNCC Rally.  I could not be
there for the festivities on tues. & weds. due to classes in college, so
I just went for sun. & mon.  Although it hadn't really started yet,
there was great turnout.  Some MuZ's showed up and lots of KLR's.  The
terrain surrounding Red River is a lot better than I had thought and the
organizer Dick Shepherd is very cool and will help you out with
anything.  Next year, school or not I'm going to the rally!  I cause you
were wondering it is in New York next year. I was fortunate only to live
about an hour away.  Also if you don't already belong to the FSSNCC,
join today!
later
josh

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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:50:07 -0400
From: Vic Norton <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) UTAH RALLY 99

Boy, that's quite a change from this year (April 24-26), Fred. I was hoping
to make the '99 Moab event, but, unfortunately, I'm going to be in Lake
Placid, NY, on the June 4-6 weekend with an ST1100 group. That's the
problem with having too many bikes.

Regards,

Vic

- --------
At 12:26 PM -0600 9/8/98, Fred Hink wrote:
> I believe the '99 Moab Get Together will be June 4 - 6.  Some are planning
> to be here earlier than that.  I have changed computers and I have lost my
> records of the date for next years rally, but I think this is correct, if
> not I am sure we will all hear about it.  Right Gino?
>
> Fred Hink
> Arrowhead Motorsports

*--------------------* http://www.ridehsta.com/ *--------------------*
|  Vic Norton      1996 ST1100   1992 EX500    HSTA 5992  DOD 43403  |
| [phone]    1997 KLR650                 STOC 037   AMA 594102 |
*--------------* http://ernie.bgsu.edu/~norton/moto/ *---------------*

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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:14:40 -0400
From: "Robert frey" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) RE: Virus Alert

I heard the frog virus was initiated by the ferret(as all us Budwieser
afficienados knows is the swamp hitman). He was put up to it by Louie the
chameleon so he would get the starring roll saying "wies".

Louie sold out for the money...whaaaaaaaaa :-)

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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:10:31 -0600
From: "Fred Hink" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) UTAH RALLY 99

- -----Original Message-----
From: Kurt Simpson <[e-mail]>
To: Fred Hink <[e-mail]>
Cc: John W. Houchins --UNMCVM(JWHOUCHI) <[e-mail]>;
[e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Tuesday, September 08, 1998 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: (klr650) UTAH RALLY 99


>> I believe the '99 Moab Get Together will be June 4 - 6.  Some are
planning
>> to be here earlier than that.  I have changed computers and I have lost
my
>> records of the date for next years rally, but I think this is correct, if
>> not I am sure we will all hear about it.  Right Gino?
>>
>> Fred Hink
>> Arrowhead Motorsports
>
>I have down June 3-5...
>
>Kurt A12
>

Well I was close...  Guess it was from all those inert gases I been
breathing.  8<0

Fred

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Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 16:44:55 -0400
From: Bill Haycock <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Questions for the KLR LIST

Dan,

I have sent your questions on the horn and license plate to the KLR650
LIST.  Someone on the LIST will reply to your questions.

You might want to join the LIST, this LIST provides you a means for
submitting questions and making comments to hundreds of other KLR650
owners.

You can join the list by going to the KLR650 Home Page, "click" on KLR
LIST FAQ selection and then follow the directions given.  Let me know if
you need help on joining the list.

On the license plate - there is an article on how to accomplish the
relocation on the KLR650 Page.  Go to:

http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page22.html

The way many of us relocated our license plates is as follows:  Simply
remove the plate, drill holes in the bottom of the plate (opposite those
in the normal top position), remount the plate but using the bolts in
the new bottom holes rather then the original top holes.  this procedure
will lift your plate up and out of the way of tire hits.

Bill


Name: Dan Gomes
 E-mail address: [e-mail]
   Homepage URL:
       Comments:
Since I got such a good response on my last question re.
tires, here are two more.
First, does anyone know of a good after-market horn for the
KLR 650 (1997) - my stock horn is barely audible to myself
much less wandering cars.
Second, whenever I go off-road my license plate ends up
bottoming out on my rear tire.  Any suggestions, other than
removing all together.

Thanks.

           Date: Tue Sep  8

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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 19:10:54 -0500 (CDT)
From: Tom Clay <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Service

At 14:21 -0000 8/9/98, r. kaub wrote:
>I called Aerostich today to order a liner for the Darien jacket I bought
>about a month or so ago. I didn't get the liner when I bought the jacket
>because of fiscal deficiencies.
>I politely asked the nice saleslady if she would consider charging me the
>price of the liner as if it were purchased with the jacket or $120 vs. the
>$167 for a liner purchased separately.  After checking, she agreed to
>charge the lower price.  I was very pleased as I was fully prepared to pay
>the $167 since I chose not to buy the liner originally.
>Ya can't beat that kind of service!   Go Aerostich!
>Tell your friends.  Thanks.
>Bob Kaub
>State University of New York
>PO Box 6000
>Binghamton, NY  13902
>607-777-2715

I couldn't agree more. Whoever's running Aerostich should go around giving
seminars on customer service. They're just about the only company in the
motorcycle business that I trust completely.

Tom Clay
Winnipeg MB

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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 09:20:34 +0800
From: Linus <[e-mail]>
Subject: [none]

Could anyone tell me if the `96 KLR650 Generator case cover gaskets(left
side of the engine) the same as for the KLR`90 model.The part no for the
96 is 11060-1692/93 and for the 90 is 11060-1111/12.The spares dealer gave
me the `96 gaskets,saying it would fit into the 90.Wonder if it`s true?
Thanks everyone
Linus
KLR90

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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 21:19:35 -0600
From: "skip faulkner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR650 Stealthiness

>From: [e-mail] (roger kriegel)
>
>by the way...i like listening to music while on the road...is it impossible
>to enjoy headphones on this bike.
>******************************************
>Roger-  I read somewhere recently that the KLR650 is "quiet as a wolf on
>the hunt"...I love it!
>Darrel
>A12 "Avenger"



  More like a 3-legged wolf with 30 tin cans tied to his tail.

 Skip (who`s A9 has been his quietest,now that he wears earplugs)

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Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 20:33:38 -0600
From: Brian Bonenfant <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Only improves with time..

Hello all,
    I did my 5000 km servicing today and it is amazing what new
oil/filter, a cleaned air filter and a new plugs do for the engine drive
ability.
    I installed a new original standard NGK plug but I would like a
platinum plug, does anyone have any suggestions for a brand to use, with
know reliability.
    I would also like to get a K&N air filter, does anyone have the part
number handy, and app. cost they paid. I am probably only going to
improve the filter and plug right now for cheap performance
enhancements, but I was wondering if anyone has only installed the K&N
filter and what kind of difference it made for performance.
    I also just ordered the tank and saddle bags from kawa, so I will be
ready to 'let the good times roll' for next riding season.
    Does anyone on the list live in WA that knows of some organized
rallies in the NW part of the States (and where to locate dates and
events).

    One concern I have, and would like some feedback from others. I am
relatively new to the motorcycle riding. I went on a trip this weekend
and I find that overall the bike runs well at speeds under 90 km (55
mph), but anything above that it feels like it is very unstable in the
wind. I went through 2 mountain passes on this trip, which
understandably is normally windy but at 100 km (60 mph) I was having
some time trying to keep it between the lines which makes the ride not
enjoyable when you have a couple of hours of this type of riding. I
guess I would like to know if anyone else finds this, or does it just
come with practice, or are there any suggestions that can improve this
condition.

Regards,
Brian.

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