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Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 22:43:18 EDT
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Subject: Fwd: (klr650) Windshield and Weave

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In a message dated 9/7/98 5:00:52 PM EST, [e-mail] writes:

<< I have a '93 also; and have been interested in both the Rifle windshield
 idea, and lowering my bike. Your need to fix the water pump also raises a
 question. So, if you don't mind; can I pick your brain on these three topics?

 1. Rifle windshield - In general how satisfied are you? I'm 5'10" and find
 that the stock shield funnels air right at the base of my helmet, generating
 lots of wind noise. It also is pretty narrow, so I get lots of air on my
 shoulders. Does the Rifle "cure" this? How does all that bracketry etc, work
 with the fairing and the mounting structure?

I'm 6'0" and I like the one I have.  I thought of going with the even taller
shield, but
for most of my riding I like the 9" over stock.  I doesn't cure all of the
wind
issues, but then this ain't no Gold Wing either.  :-)  I like this height, and
would feel comfortable recommending it.  This is a VERY easy to install
system.  You have to remove the top two screws that hold the fairing on
as there is a piece the really helps to stabilize the whole shootin' match.
I think that you will be happy with either the Rifle or the Clear View (I
think
that's the name).

 2. Lowering the bike - I'd be happy to lose a few inches of ground clearance
 (I don't ride on those kind of trails anymore) in order to be able to get
 better footing when I do need to save it. How did you lower the bike? I
 figure that the front can be lowered by pulling the fork tubes up in the
 triple clamps; but without a matching drop at the rear, handling will get
 peculiar real fast. Did you use a kit from someone or what?

There are lowering links that you install on the rear suspension that you can
order.  The company's name is R&D Engineering out of Alabama, I think.
If you want, I'll look up their name and number, but I know I saw it on the
list'
this weekend as someone was discussing engine performance, and that's the
same guy.  Let me know, though and I'll dig it up for you.  Anyway, these
links are installed in place of shorter ones on the bottom of the shock, and
they lower the bike by about 1.5", I then slid the forks up 2" in the clamps,
and I REALLY like the way it handles on the road.  Stability is improved
three-fold or more.  (Something like that....)  Real easy to install these
links.  I put the bike up on a stand that held the rear off the ground,
removed the
rear wheel, and then just unbolted and replaced the links.  Easy as that.

 3. Seal on the waterpump - How many miles on the bike when that happened?
 What were the symptoms? Nothing like coolant in the oil I hope?

I have about 11,000 on the bike.  The symptom was coolant coming out of the
bottom of the impellar cover (where the two hoses run on the right side of the
engine.) while running.  I was riding home (about 80 miles) when I noticed
that
the bike was running a little warmer than usual.  Not hot, just warmer.  I
stopped at
a buddies house to talk for a minute, and as I left the bike running for a
minute before
I turned it off, a little puddle appeared under the engine.  I then rode home
and
again let it run a little, then I traced the collant to that over-flow hole on
the bottom.
Well, I pulled out the trusty service manual, (the real one, not the little
one that you
get for free....) and the symptom told me right where to find the problem.  I
ordered
the parts from Fred Hink on the list as the dealer here told me two weeks,
Fred had
them in days.  I replaced the oil seal, mechanical seal and the seal on the
impeller
(which comes the the mechanical seal).  I also replaced the clutch plates and
installed
heavier clutch springs since I had the cover off anyway.  Didn't really need
to, just did
it as a precaution.  The parts aren't too hard to replace if you do some of
your own
mechanical work, but if you're not real sure about doing it, then I'd have a
shop do
it.

The good news is I haven't heard of many of these things going out.  I
wouldn't lose any
sleep over it, as I bet you'll never see it.  (You know, if the seal got bad
enough, you could
possibly have some water in the oil, but you'd have to really ignore the early
symptoms.

 Don Roger
  >>

I hope this is helpful, and if I started to ramble, I'm sorry.  Don't hesitate
to drop a line
anytime.  By the way, I think that our '93s are the last of the good looking
KLR's,
don't your?

MN Ron (trying to stir up another hornet's nest....)

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Ron -

I have a '93 also; and have been interested in both the Rifle windshield
idea, and lowering my bike. Your need to fix the water pump also raises a
question. So, if you don't mind; can I pick your brain on these three topics?

1. Rifle windshield - In general how satisfied are you? I'm 5'10" and find
that the stock shield funnels air right at the base of my helmet, generating
lots of wind noise. It also is pretty narrow, so I get lots of air on my
shoulders. Does the Rifle "cure" this? How does all that bracketry etc, work
with the fairing and the mounting structure?

2. Lowering the bike - I'd be happy to lose a few inches of ground clearance
(I don't ride on those kind of trails anymore) in order to be able to get
better footing when I do need to save it. How did you lower the bike? I
figure that the front can be lowered by pulling the fork tubes up in the
triple clamps; but without a matching drop at the rear, handling will get
peculiar real fast. Did you use a kit from someone or what?

3. Seal on the waterpump - How many miles on the bike when that happened?
What were the symptoms? Nothing like coolant in the oil I hope?

Don Roger


>I had and interesting test today with my '93.  I have been a big proponent of
>my lowered KLR and how well she handles.  I just got 'er up and running after
>changing the mechanical seal in the water pump.  I decided to put on the
stock
>windshield because it's been so warm lately, and I just like to change things
>once in a while.  (I have a 9+ (I think, it's the shorter of the two options)
>Rifle shield normally.)  Anyway, I have been telling everyone how my bike has
>gotten rid of the 80+ mph weave when I lowered the bike.  Well, it's back in
a
>minor form with the stock windshield.  It's not as bad as original, but still
>noticeable.  Now, I don't pretend to be an engineer, all I know is what I
feel
>when I ride.  Just wanted to let the world know that "maybe" they can help
the
>weave with a new windshield????
>
>MN Ron (trying stay on the straight and narrow...)
>
>


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Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 22:47:13 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Fwd: (klr650) Windshield and Weave

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In a message dated 9/7/98 6:48:25 PM EST, [e-mail] writes:

<< Interesting idea.  I sure would like to know what's causing the wobble.
 You probably remember I lowered my bike.  Everything else is stock.   I
 think there may have been an improvement but I can't say just how much due
 to limited experience.  I don't need a higher windshield, but now I'm
 curious if that would help.   Are you running a lower fender too?

 thanks,
 ericR
  >>

Eric, no I'm not running a lower fron fender, but I am toying with the idea.
Maybe over the winter.  I have to admit that I was VERY surprised with the
weave coming back with the stock windshield.  I hope to get out a little more
this week to verify my findings, and then I'll but the Rifle back on and try
it again.  (I know, tough job but in the interest of science......)

MN Ron (fine line between weave and wobble, and I've been there, done that)

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Date: Monday, September 07, 1998 2:11 PM
Subject: (klr650) Windshield and Weave


>when I ride.  Just wanted to let the world know that "maybe" they can hel=
p
the
>weave with a new windshield????
>
>MN Ron (trying stay on the straight and narrow...)
>
>+++++++++++++++++++++

Interesting idea.  I sure would like to know what's causing the wobble.
You probably remember I lowered my bike.  Everything else is stock.   I
think there may have been an improvement but I can't say just how much due
to limited experience.  I don't need a higher windshield, but now I'm
curious if that would help.   Are you running a lower fender too?

thanks,
ericR



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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 00:28:26 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (klr650) Parting out

Well good day all
  I have a 1990 KLR650 that I'm am parting out.  I found it in a dealers back
lot, and needed some parts off of it myself, then couldn't turn down the price
they were asking for it.
  Lets see now, if I can get all the right info here? The majority of it is
still there. I live in the Silicon Valley, Ca.  The salvage yards want 60% of
original cost, I'll ask 60% of that, which means I'll ask 30% of original
cost, or 30% of whatever the dealers are asking.  It has already paid for
itself, and everything from here is gravy.
  If interested, give me a buzz.

See Ya

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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 09:14:21 +0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (klr650) Windshield and Weave

Howdy All,

MN Ron wrote;
>> I decided to put on the stock windshield because it's been so warm
lately, and I just like to change things once in a while.  (I have a
9+ (I think, it's the shorter of the two options) Rifle shield
normally.)  Anyway, I have been telling everyone how my bike has
gotten rid of the 80+ mph weave when I lowered the bike.  Well, it's
back in a minor form with the stock windshield.  It's not as bad as
original, but still noticeable.  Now, I don't pretend to be an
engineer, all I know is what I feel when I ride.  Just wanted to let
the world know that "maybe" they can help the weave with a new
windshield???? >>

Ron I know I fell much more stable at 80+ with my Clearview but I
think thats because the wind blast doesn't hit my body as much.
Having the wind off my body some allows my arms to relax and
everything is smoother.

Anyway just a guess.

Jeff Smith  Barnes, WI
'71 A-HD Sprint 350; '97 Kawasaki KLR650 (King o'La Road)
"Beware the dirt bike ... Ground shaking dirt bike" TMBG

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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 07:39:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Peter M. Anderson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) highway pegs?  thoughts?

Highway pegs?  Do they really work?  I know Gino and Jack have a set,
but is there any other KLR riders that swear by them?

thanks for your response,

6' 2 1/2'' Anderson



==

Peter Michael Anderson
Hero On Ice
_________________________________________________________
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Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 10:58:58
From: "r. kaub" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Givi

FWIW:
Jim Murray's Kawasaki in Scranton, PA is a Givi dealer.
I asked about discounts and Jim Jr. (He's the parts guy) said it depends on
what you're buying.  So, I guess you have to ask him to deal a little.
The dealer I bought my Givi Tailbox from in Wilkes-Barre, PA (Two-Jacks)
wouldn't deal at all saying that he was a "full service BMW dealer".)
Whatever the hell that meant.
Call Murray's at 717-342-3280 or 800-713-3057. Thanks.
Bob Kaub
State University of New York
PO Box 6000
Binghamton, NY  13902
607-777-2715

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Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 11:06:12
From: "r. kaub" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) Thermostat

I noticed that there was some coolant leaking out of the bottom of the
thermostat housing the other night.  I checked the three mounting screws
and they are tight.  A search of the SM didn't give me any info on why it
would leak or show what kind of gasket-if any-is used.
Is there an o-ring or gasket under the housing or do they use silicone
based sealant around the mounting surface. I'm not bothering with a
warranty trip to the dealer as that is far more bother than fixing it
myself.  Thanks.
Bob Kaub
State University of New York
PO Box 6000
Binghamton, NY  13902
607-777-2715

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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 98  10:52:16 CST
From: "John W. Houchins  --UNMCVM(JWHOUCHI)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650) UTAH RALLY 99

From:  John W. Houchins  --UNMCVM(JWHOUCHI)

Gino, Bill, anyone,

What are the dates for the rally in Utah for 99?

John Houchins (almost done with the crutches, and ridin again!)

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Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 09:17:05 -0700
From: markking <[e-mail]>
Subject: (klr650)

Went up to Hayward Kawasaki on Saturday to buy a $4099 KLR650. They had
all gone.....Sigh


Mark King

No bike at the moment

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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 13:29:29 EDT
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