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Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 13:14:28 -0500
From: hikingonthru@cs.com
Subject: MtMan-List: Still somewhat off topic
>A tiny tidbit of history that was once common but is largely forgotten now
>and will never be mentioned in the history books.
I would like to respond to Lanney's comment that has a LOT of sage wisdom in it. It seems that what truly tells us about a culture or historical period is the minutia of daily living. The commmon things and items. That is the marrow of the society. Ever see anyone go nuts of an "original" Bess or other firelock?
The Smithsonian employs persons whose entire livelihood is to collect and catalogue bits of American 'daily life'. They even have Silly Putty and kids' lunchboxes catalogued and tucked away. So those of you who think it silly of impractical to keep a record if not the actual items....maybe we need to rethink that.
Would it not be nice is someone for a few generations in the family had kept Uncle so'n'so's traps oiled as well as the trade gun he got while "out west" trapping for some company?
If it is good enough for the Smithsonian....
- -C.Kent
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Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 13:37:03 -0500
From: hikingonthru@cs.com
Subject: MtMan-List: Heritage, blame and the nature of a freetrapper
"WindWalker" <windwalker@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>Was turned down right off to join the list because of my name..really think was turned down due to my heritage..<
Hate to chime in (nah, not really) but I think that comment is not grounded in truth. Many folks have "handles" that are "native-sounding" whether they actually are or not. And many people on the list have a WIDE variety of cultural, regional and racial backgrounds and operate just fine on the list. I have made reference to my cherokee background and carried on a dialogue related to that and ML arms used by cherokee in 1700's. Did not get moderated. I think you will find plenty of folks who will express an interest in another's heritage and will surely find some ML info related to that historical background.
>Seems to me to be more of a control factor, thus having power in hands to run off members and delete posts at will, thus giving a contol one apparently has no where else.<<
True enuf, it appears that way at times but it does tend to get tedious and monotonous if those rules do not get enforced. Just like in a group of people you are sitting around a fire with...you cannot just up and say what you want when you want (at least without a consequence of some sort).
>One cant bring much if anything to the table if the majority of posts are rejected can one?<<
I had a lot rejected at one time. But to me, I was able to take my personality out of the way to learn a little and it was worth it.
>Naw.. but maybe thats just why in olden days. there were "company" trappers... and then again there were "Freetrappers"
Good thing about this country. You don't like something...you are free to pull up stakes and move on if that is how your stick floats.
By the by, you MAY see some flareup about blaming stuff on heritage. We each must step outside ourselves to look within ourselves for the source of a problem before we can overcome it. We can only change ourselves anyway. Blaming one's problem - big or small - on others' attitudes or actions is only enslaving yourselves to them. Avoiding that is liberating yourself!!! THAT IS THE NATURE OF A FREETRAPPER!!! That is why they were able to work independently TOGETHER!!!!
Just how my stick floats.
- -C.Kent
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<P>IT SEEMS THAT ONCE A GOOD DISCUSSION GETS UNDER WAY, SOMEONE COMES OUT OF THE WOODS AND CREATES A RIOT. i MEAN WE HAD A TRULLY GREAT BEAVER TRAPPING DEBATE. UNTIL SOMEONE THOUGHT IT WAS TIME TO COME UNGLUED. </P>
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<P>YOU MEN TALK AND CLAIM OF THE INJUSTICE OF THE OTHER SITE, THEN YOU TURN THIS ONE INTO SOMETHING LESS THAN DISCUSSION. </P>
<DIV></DIV>
<P>I FOR ONE DO NOT KNOW THIS GARRET CHARACTER. MAYBE HE IS OR WAS AN AMM OFFICER WHO FELL FROM GRACE WITH YOU. I DO NOT CARE. MAYBE HE WAS THE ONE IN ARIZONA WHO STOLED FROM HIS PARTNER, TONY SOMETHING THAT DAD TOLD ME OF. HIS PATNER BEING IN A DRAWING IN THE MUZZLELOADER SERIES(INSIDE COVER). I DO NOT CARE. MAYBE THE MAJORITY HERE HAVE SUCH A FRUSTRATED TIME WITH THEIR WIFE AND CAREER THAT THEY BREAK OUT IN THESE TANGENTS. WHO CARES. WHAT EVER THE EMOTIONAL PROBLEMS YOU HAVE AND HAVE TO STIR UP TROBLE RATHER THAN DISCUSS ANYTHING I DON'T CARE. AND FOR THOSE WHOM ARE JUST FREAK PARASITES WHOM TRIVE ON THIS MAYHEM, I HOPE YOU ENJOY THE SITE YOU ARE CREATING.</P>
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