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From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest)
To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com
Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #955
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hist_text-digest Wednesday, February 13 2002 Volume 01 : Number 955
In this issue:
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: off topic
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: off topic
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: off topic
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: off topic
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: off topic
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: off topic
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: off topic
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: off topic
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Demmick info
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: MLML
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: off topic
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Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 09:08:03 -0500
From: "Possum Hunter" <icurapossum_hunter2@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: off topic
Lanney Ratcliff wrote:
> For many years it was the custom of "country" people...men almost
exclusively..... in this part of the world to "saucer" their coffee.
This is how my Great Grandfather taught me to drink coffee and is the way I
drink it to this day, if I have have a saucer. I never could figgure out why
it bothers the wimmon so much!
>
> Anybody who still does it is likely to be wearing kakhi pants and cotton
suspenders, smell of Garretts dry snuff and can tell tales of WWI.
No, I wear broadfalls or overalls and I don't like tobacco. I can tell tales
of primitive campouts, does that count? LOL
Possum
Southern Cherokee Nation
"I was born upon the prairie where the wind blew free and there was nothing
to break the light of the sun. I was born where there were no enclosures and
where everything drew a free breath. I want to die there, not within
walls." --Ten Bears, Yamparika Comanche
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Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 09:24:29 -0600
From: "Mike Bowling" <madmike@one.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: off topic
No not them. They don't which side the butter goes on.
MM
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Double Edge Forge" <deforge1@bright.net>
To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 8:05 AM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: off topic
> MM.
> That ain't the East Kentucky kin, is it???<GG>
> D
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Bowling" <madmike@one.net>
> To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 10:09 AM
> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: off topic
>
>
> > It brought back good memories for me to D. When I was a youngen my
grandma
> > would give us coffee in a saucer with a piece of bread with sugar and
> butter
> > on it .Shinning times they was.
> > MM
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Double Edge Forge" <deforge1@bright.net>
> > To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 5:56 AM
> > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: off topic
> >
> >
> > > Lanney,
> > > My Dad used to do that, thanks for reminding me, brought a grin to my
> mug
> > > this morning....
> > > D
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Lanney Ratcliff" <amm1585@hyperusa.com>
> > > To: "History List" <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
> > > Cc: "JW Stephens" <lray@mindspring.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 11:22 PM
> > > Subject: Fw: MtMan-List: off topic
> > >
> > >
> > > > I wondered if anybody would bite on that. You wrote me off list but
I
> > > will
> > > > respond to the list because it is a bit of nearly forgotten history.
> > > > For many years it was the custom of "country" people...men almost
> > > > exclusively..... in this part of the world to "saucer" their coffee.
> > That
> > > > is, they would have their coffee in a cup, sitting in a saucer.
They
> > > would
> > > > gently tip the cup a little, spilling a quantity into the saucer.
> They
> > > > would sit the cup aside and pick up the saucer using the thumb and
two
> > > > forefingers of each hand and "blowed" the coffee to cool it a tad.
> > > > Generally the coffee was drunk directly from the saucer with a loud
> > slurp,
> > > > which ticked off the womenfolk to no end. And when your coffee was
> all
> > > > "saucered and blowed" you were finished with your coffee.
> > > > Pretty rural. Used to be pretty common but is almost unheard of
> > anymore.
> > > > Anybody who still does it is likely to be wearing kakhi pants and
> cotton
> > > > suspenders, smell of Garretts dry snuff and can tell tales of WWI.
> > > > A tiny tidbit of history that was once common but is largely
forgotten
> > now
> > > > and will never be mentioned in the history books.
> > > > Lanney
> > > > ps: My wife just read this and said that she saw her granddaddy and
> her
> > > > uncle Bill do it a thousand times.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "JW Stephens" <lray@mindspring.com>
> > > > To: "Lanney Ratcliff" <amm1585@hyperusa.com>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 9:56 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: off topic
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Ummm ... Lanney ... could you translate this part from Texican for
> me?
> > > > >
> > > > > B'st'rd
> > > > >
> > > > > > Lanney Ratcliff wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I told them that my time with them was saucered and blowed and
> > bailed.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 09:16:12 -0500
From: "Double Edge Forge" <deforge1@bright.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: off topic
Mike
Just tryin' to get a rise outta ya..<GG>
D
Visit one or all these sites, find out about the [AMM] (American Mountain
Men's) "Great Buffalo Raffle".
AMM "The Great Buffalo Raffle": http://conner110.tripod.com/AMM-hunt.html
Double Edge forge http://www.bright.net/~deforge1
Buck's Base Camp: http://buckconner.tripod.com/
Historical Research: http://conner110.tripod.com/
Historical Research & Development: http://hrd7.tripod.com/
see the AMM site for more supporters of this event.
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Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 09:32:47 -0600
From: "Mike Bowling" <madmike@one.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: off topic
D
Maybe have a saucer full of coffee with ya this sun.
MM
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Double Edge Forge" <deforge1@bright.net>
To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: off topic
>
> Mike
> Just tryin' to get a rise outta ya..<GG>
> D
>
> Visit one or all these sites, find out about the [AMM] (American Mountain
> Men's) "Great Buffalo Raffle".
>
>
> AMM "The Great Buffalo Raffle": http://conner110.tripod.com/AMM-hunt.html
> Double Edge forge http://www.bright.net/~deforge1
> Buck's Base Camp: http://buckconner.tripod.com/
> Historical Research: http://conner110.tripod.com/
> Historical Research & Development: http://hrd7.tripod.com/
>
> see the AMM site for more supporters of this event.
>
>
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Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 09:25:36 -0500
From: "Double Edge Forge" <deforge1@bright.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: off topic
MM
Ye got it...
D
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Bowling" <madmike@one.net>
To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: off topic
> D
> Maybe have a saucer full of coffee with ya this sun.
> MM
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Double Edge Forge" <deforge1@bright.net>
> To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 8:16 AM
> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: off topic
>
>
> >
> > Mike
> > Just tryin' to get a rise outta ya..<GG>
> > D
> >
> > Visit one or all these sites, find out about the [AMM] (American
Mountain
> > Men's) "Great Buffalo Raffle".
> >
> >
> > AMM "The Great Buffalo Raffle":
http://conner110.tripod.com/AMM-hunt.html
> > Double Edge forge http://www.bright.net/~deforge1
> > Buck's Base Camp: http://buckconner.tripod.com/
> > Historical Research: http://conner110.tripod.com/
> > Historical Research & Development: http://hrd7.tripod.com/
> >
> > see the AMM site for more supporters of this event.
> >
> >
> >
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Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 10:42:05 -0500
From: "Possum Hunter" <icurapossum_hunter2@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: off topic
Magpie wrote:
> Haaaaa..... Don't feel bad Sam, I was told to shut my mouth there on
occassion too....<G> Kanger gets a bit testy if you don't agree with him....
LOL, Kanger sure didn't like my posts about cleaning my gun with "Rocket
Fuel"! He don't even like my sig file!
Possum
Southern Cherokee Nation
"I was born upon the prairie where the wind blew free and there was nothing
to break the light of the sun. I was born where there were no enclosures and
where everything drew a free breath. I want to die there, not within
walls." --Ten Bears, Yamparika Comanche
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Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 08:59:21 -0800
From: "rtlahti" <rtlahti@msn.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: off topic
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From: WindWalker=20
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Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 12:28 PM
Subject: MtMan-List: off topic
Am I paranoid?
Or is the "other list {mlml} totally moderated?
I'm up to 17 posts being rejected
2 for "unproper wording" i.e use of name stores.
Just wondering, as I know not different
Sam=20
Sam,
The other list is moderated. Sometimes 100%, some times selectively, =
sometimes not at all. But it does not have any flame wars and people who =
insist on being silly (read that rude or full of themselves) don't last. =
The rules are not difficult to adhere to if one is willing but if not, =
there are plenty of very knowledgeable folks and interesting folks who =
are willing to abide to make it a very informative and friendly place to =
share ideas.=20
Not having any idea what you have tried to post to the other list I can =
only surmise that you have failed to abide by some of the simple rules =
that allow your posts to go through with automatic regularity. There is =
no particular "proper" format other than staying on topic (which boils =
down to keeping it civil and about muzzle loading) and not quoting any =
more of the message your responding to beyond what it takes to let folks =
know what your talking about. Usually 5 lines of the previous message is =
the limit. (Pretty much as I have done here)=20
If your post goes over that, it is automatically sent back to you by the =
"mechanical" server all the messages go through. Not by a real person. =
That automatic server will weed out over quoting of the previous =
message, certain course or inflammatory words or phrases, but pays no =
attention to your spelling or sentence structure. Not all of us have =
good typing skills or good knowledge of these infernal machines and such =
is not required. What we're interested in here and on the mlml is good =
folks sharing their knowledge and ideas in a civil, helpful manner.
In your first few messages to the list your expected to share some basic =
information about yourself so that folks have a chance to "know you", =
which is important since we are not setting across a fire from each =
other. To weed out people who have hidden agendas, the first few posts =
from any new member are reviewed by a live moderator. No posts are =
rejected that are on topic and are following the simple rules =
established.
But the bottom line seems to be whether you care enough or have enough =
respect for the others who abide by the rules to abide by them yourself. =
And no one is too old to learn new tricks or learn how to play by the =
rules.=20
< I'm to old to be waiting on pups to either approve my context/spelling =
etc or disapprove...
35 things must be in orger to post and wind must be from south etc. =
etc.....>
Unless much has changed since I took my turn as a moderator on that =
list, no one is approving your context/spelling, etc. only reviewing =
that your following the rules. If you have problems with that then you =
probably shouldn't be on that list. It's of course your choice. But you =
will miss out on much good information just as the other members will =
miss out on what you have to bring to the table.
YMOS
Capt. Lahti'
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 19, =
2002=20
12:28 PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> MtMan-List: off =
topic</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Am I paranoid?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Or is the "other list {mlml} =
totally=20
moderated?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm up to 17 posts being=20
rejected</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2 for "unproper wording" i.e use =
of name=20
stores.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just wondering, as I know not=20
different</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sam=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sam,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The other list is moderated. Sometimes =
100%, some=20
times selectively, sometimes not at all. But it does not have any flame =
wars and=20
people who insist on being silly (read that rude or full of themselves) =
don't=20
last. The rules are not difficult to adhere to if one is willing but if =
not,=20
there are plenty of very knowledgeable folks and interesting folks who =
are=20
willing to abide to make it a very informative and friendly place to =
share=20
ideas. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not having any idea what you have tried =
to post to=20
the other list I can only surmise that you have failed to abide by some =
of the=20
simple rules that allow your posts to go through with automatic =
regularity.=20
There is no particular "proper" format other than staying on topic =
(which boils=20
down to keeping it civil and about muzzle loading) and not quoting any =
more of=20
the message your responding to beyond what it takes to let folks know =
what your=20
talking about. Usually 5 lines of the previous message is the limit. =
(Pretty=20
much as I have done here) </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If your post goes over that, it is =
automatically=20
sent back to you by the "mechanical" server all the messages go through. =
Not by=20
a real person. That automatic server will weed out over quoting of the =
previous=20
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attention=20
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skills or=20
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we're=20
interested in here and on the mlml is good folks sharing their knowledge =
and ideas in a civil, helpful manner.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In your first few messages to the list =
your=20
expected to share some basic information about yourself so that folks =
have a=20
chance to "know you", which is important since we are not setting across =
a fire=20
from each other. To weed out people who have hidden agendas, the =
first few=20
posts from any new member are reviewed by a live moderator. No =
posts are=20
rejected that are on topic and are following the simple rules=20
established.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>But the bottom line seems to be whether =
you care=20
enough or have enough respect for the others who abide by the rules to =
abide by=20
them yourself. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>And no one is too old to learn new =
tricks or learn=20
how to play by the rules. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>< I'm to old to be waiting on pups =
to either=20
approve my context/spelling etc or disapprove...
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>35 things must be in orger to post and =
wind must be=20
from south etc. etc.....></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Unless much has changed since I took my turn as a moderator on that =
list,=20
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following the rules. If you have problems with that then you probably =
shouldn't=20
be on that list. It's of course your choice. But you will miss out on =
much good=20
information just as the other members will miss out on what you have to =
bring to=20
the table.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>YMOS<BR>Capt. Lahti'</DIV>
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Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 10:59:29 -0500
From: "WindWalker" <windwalker@fastmail.fm>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: off topic
MAybe he dont like NA,s?
Met a few like that myself..
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From: "Possum Hunter" <icurapossum_hunter2@yahoo.com>
To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: off topic
> Magpie wrote:
> > Haaaaa..... Don't feel bad Sam, I was told to shut my mouth there on
> occassion too....<G> Kanger gets a bit testy if you don't agree with
him....
>
> LOL, Kanger sure didn't like my posts about cleaning my gun with "Rocket
> Fuel"! He don't even like my sig file!
>
> Possum
> Southern Cherokee Nation
> "I was born upon the prairie where the wind blew free and there was
nothing
> to break the light of the sun. I was born where there were no enclosures
and
> where everything drew a free breath. I want to die there, not within
> walls." --Ten Bears, Yamparika Comanche
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 11:10:55 -0500
From: hawknest4@juno.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Demmick info
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On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 23:53:58 -0500 "WindWalker" <windwalker@fastmail.fm>
writes:
Does anyone have source on internet for pictures
of Demmick Rifles?
Im having little luck finding via web search engines.
Thanks
Sam
SAM
don steith makes dimick rifles copied from his original ---can link you
up with him if that is what you want---they are very similar to a hawken
except for the trigger guard and the keys a outstanding offhand gun
usually of smaller caliber than a hawken---most dimicks also have brass
hardware but some were made in steel--BTW they were also a st louis
gun---they were located at 38 north main in st louis in 1859-60---there
is a nice picture on page 35 of hansons book " the plains rifle"
suggest you look up H.E. Dimick and co which was located in st louis mo
in the 1800's---they are on the tax rolls and there is some documentation
there also---a copy of the dimick barrel stamp is on page 56 of hansons
book also---
"HAWK"
Michael Pierce "Home of the "Old Grizz (C) product line & "the
Arkansas Underhammers"
854 Glenfield Dr
Palm Harbor, Florida 34684 Phone: 1-727-771-1815
e-mail: hawknest4@juno.com web
site:http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/mpierce
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<DIV>On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 23:53:58 -0500 "WindWalker" <<A=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Does anyone have source on internet for=
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pictures</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>of Demmick Rifles?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Im having little luck finding via web =
search=20
engines.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sam</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>SAM</DIV>
<DIV>don steith makes dimick rifles copied from his original ---can link =
you up=20
with him if that is what you want---they are very similar to a hawken =
except for=20
the trigger guard and the keys a outstanding offhand gun usually of=20
smaller caliber than a hawken---most dimicks also have brass hardware but =
some=20
were made in steel--BTW they were also a st louis gun---they were located =
at 38=20
north main in st louis in 1859-60---there is a nice picture on page 35 of=20
hansons book " the plains rifle"</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>suggest you look up H.E. Dimick and co which was located in st louis =
mo in=20
the 1800's---they are on the tax rolls and there is some documentation =
there=20
also---a copy of the dimick barrel stamp is on page 56 of hansons book=20
also---</DIV>
<DIV><BR>"HAWK"<BR>Michael Pierce "Home of the "Old Grizz =
(C)=20
product line & "the Arkansas Underhammers"<BR>854 Glenfield Dr<BR>Palm=
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Harbor, Florida =20
34684 &=
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Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 10:15:45 -0700
From: "Gene Hickman" <ghickman9@attbi.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: MLML
He has put Ad Miller on warning, and he is one of the moderators. Kicked
"Hawk" off and who knows how many others.
GENE
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In a message dated 2/12/02 6:11:54 PM, frankf@cox-internet.com writes:
<< I shared what little I could and made many friends via MLML. However, I
too was cut off because I disagreed with Dave Kangar, the list owner. >>
Haaaaaaa......and I thought it was just my bad attitude! <G> Naw....ole
Kanger just lacks a bit in the social graces. It was a good list, but it may
well be he ends up the only one on it.
Magpie
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Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 11:23:16 -0500
From: "WindWalker" <windwalker@fastmail.fm>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: off topic
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Well Sir
I see you denote I dont follow rules.
Far from the truth,
To me its more like one has to be in the click, before one
can post.
Posts turned down for a brief sentence about a product form Walmart?
Then a off line message as to "rules" and no modern guns allowed?
Then we see posts on Remington 700,s?
Naw dont cut it indeed.
Was turned down right off to join the list because of my name...
I really think was turned down due to my heritage..
A fully moderated list is just that Moderated
So as to insure the thoughts and rules of the Owner,
Think King George had those same line of thoughts.
Im sure "that" list has alot of good people on it indeed
And your statement "playing by the rules"???
There are no rules even the owner states he can change the "rules" at =
any time, and if you dont like then tough!
Seems to me to be more of a control factor, thus having power in hands =
to run off members and delete posts at will, thus giving a contol one =
apparently has no where else.
One cant bring much if anything to the table if the majority of posts =
are rejected can one?
But as i see it , if i change my thinking and take up the rules and =
beliefs of the persons so deleting my posts then to I can become one-of =
the boys? eh?
Naw.. that dont fly...
To many on that list I know, have wrote me telling me what a absolute =
(*&&%@@!! he or someone is..
I think alot there are on the list to share the hobby, and tolerate the =
nonsense...to a point.
And if you took turn as moderator, did you not have to fall inline with =
owners wishes and thoughts?
Funny I have a whole sent file on rejected posts... some for no reason..
Myself, I think its just a whim of someone to mess with somebody....
Bet these same types of people sneak into Rondys incognito, cause i dont =
think they would walk in letting all know who they were indeed.
My thoughts on you post only..
And myself abiding totally by someone else,s rules, when others are =
apparently gettin away with alot??
Naw.. but maybe thats just why in olden days. there were "company" =
trappers... and then again there were "Freetrappers"
Your thoughts so noted.
sam
----- Original Message -----=20
From: rtlahti=20
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: off topic
----- Original Message -----=20
From: WindWalker=20
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 12:28 PM
Subject: MtMan-List: off topic
Am I paranoid?
Or is the "other list {mlml} totally moderated?
I'm up to 17 posts being rejected
2 for "unproper wording" i.e use of name stores.
Just wondering, as I know not different
Sam=20
Sam,
The other list is moderated. Sometimes 100%, some times selectively, =
sometimes not at all. But it does not have any flame wars and people who =
insist on being silly (read that rude or full of themselves) don't last. =
The rules are not difficult to adhere to if one is willing but if not, =
there are plenty of very knowledgeable folks and interesting folks who =
are willing to abide to make it a very informative and friendly place to =
share ideas.=20
Not having any idea what you have tried to post to the other list I =
can only surmise that you have failed to abide by some of the simple =
rules that allow your posts to go through with automatic regularity. =
There is no particular "proper" format other than staying on topic =
(which boils down to keeping it civil and about muzzle loading) and not =
quoting any more of the message your responding to beyond what it takes =
to let folks know what your talking about. Usually 5 lines of the =
previous message is the limit. (Pretty much as I have done here)=20
If your post goes over that, it is automatically sent back to you by =
the "mechanical" server all the messages go through. Not by a real =
person. That automatic server will weed out over quoting of the previous =
message, certain course or inflammatory words or phrases, but pays no =
attention to your spelling or sentence structure. Not all of us have =
good typing skills or good knowledge of these infernal machines and such =
is not required. What we're interested in here and on the mlml is good =
folks sharing their knowledge and ideas in a civil, helpful manner.
In your first few messages to the list your expected to share some =
basic information about yourself so that folks have a chance to "know =
you", which is important since we are not setting across a fire from =
each other. To weed out people who have hidden agendas, the first few =
posts from any new member are reviewed by a live moderator. No posts are =
rejected that are on topic and are following the simple rules =
established.
But the bottom line seems to be whether you care enough or have enough =
respect for the others who abide by the rules to abide by them yourself. =
And no one is too old to learn new tricks or learn how to play by the =
rules.=20
< I'm to old to be waiting on pups to either approve my =
context/spelling etc or disapprove...=20
35 things must be in orger to post and wind must be from south etc. =
etc.....>
Unless much has changed since I took my turn as a moderator on that =
list, no one is approving your context/spelling, etc. only reviewing =
that your following the rules. If you have problems with that then you =
probably shouldn't be on that list. It's of course your choice. But you =
will miss out on much good information just as the other members will =
miss out on what you have to bring to the table.
YMOS
Capt. Lahti'
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well Sir</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I see you denote I dont follow =
rules.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Far from the truth,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To me its more like one has to be in =
the click,=20
before one</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>can post.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Posts turned down for a brief sentence =
about a=20
product form Walmart?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Then a off line message as to "rules" =
and no modern=20
guns allowed?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Then we see posts on Remington =
700,s?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Naw dont cut it indeed.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Was turned down right off to join the =
list because=20
of my name...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I really think was turned down due to =
my=20
heritage..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A fully moderated list is just that=20
Moderated</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So as to insure the thoughts and rules =
of the=20
Owner,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Think King George had those same line =
of=20
thoughts.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Im sure "that" list has alot of good =
people on it=20
indeed</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>And your statement "playing by the=20
rules"???</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>There are no rules even the owner =
states he can=20
change the "rules" at any time, and if you dont like then =
tough!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Seems to me to be more of a control =
factor, thus=20
having power in hands to run off members and delete posts at will, thus =
giving a=20
contol one apparently has no where else.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>One cant bring much if anything to the =
table if the=20
majority of posts are rejected can one?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>But as i see it , if i change my =
thinking and take=20
up the rules and beliefs of the persons so deleting my posts then to I =
can=20
become one-of the boys? eh?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Naw.. that dont fly...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To many on that list I know, have wrote =
me telling=20
me what a absolute (*&&%@@!! he or someone =
is..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think alot there are on the list to =
share the=20
hobby, and tolerate the nonsense...to a point.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>And if you took turn as moderator, did =
you not have=20
to fall inline with owners wishes and thoughts?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Funny I have a whole sent file on =
rejected posts...=20
some for no reason..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Myself, I think its just a whim of =
someone to mess=20
with somebody....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bet these same types of people sneak =
into Rondys=20
incognito, cause i dont think they would walk in letting all know who =
they were=20
indeed.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My thoughts on you post =
only..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>And myself abiding totally by someone =
else,s rules,=20
when others are apparently gettin away with alot??</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Naw.. but maybe thats just why in olden =
days. there=20
were "company" trappers... and then again there were =
"Freetrappers"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Your thoughts so noted.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>sam</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Drtlahti@msn.com href=3D"mailto:rtlahti@msn.com">rtlahti</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dhist_text@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:hist_text@lists.xmission.com">hist_text@lists.xmission.com=
</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 13, =
2002 11:59=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: MtMan-List: off =
topic</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
<DIV> </DIV>
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style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dwindwalker@fastmail.fm=20
href=3D"mailto:windwalker@fastmail.fm">WindWalker</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dhist_text@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:hist_text@lists.xmission.com">hist_text@lists.xmission.com=
</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February =
19, 2002=20
12:28 PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> MtMan-List: off=20
topic</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Am I paranoid?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Or is the "other list {mlml} =
totally=20
moderated?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm up to 17 posts being=20
rejected</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2 for "unproper wording" i.e =
use of name=20
stores.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just wondering, as I know not=20
different</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sam=20
</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sam,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The other list is moderated. =
Sometimes 100%, some=20
times selectively, sometimes not at all. But it does not have any =
flame wars=20
and people who insist on being silly (read that rude or full of =
themselves)=20
don't last. The rules are not difficult to adhere to if one is willing =
but if=20
not, there are plenty of very knowledgeable folks and interesting =
folks who=20
are willing to abide to make it a very informative and friendly place =
to share=20
ideas. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not having any idea what you have =
tried to post=20
to the other list I can only surmise that you have failed to abide by =
some of=20
the simple rules that allow your posts to go through with automatic=20
regularity. There is no particular "proper" format other than staying =
on topic=20
(which boils down to keeping it civil and about muzzle loading) and =
not=20
quoting any more of the message your responding to beyond what it =
takes to let=20
folks know what your talking about. Usually 5 lines of the previous =
message is=20
the limit. (Pretty much as I have done here) </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If your post goes over that, it is =
automatically=20
sent back to you by the "mechanical" server all the messages go =
through. Not=20
by a real person. That automatic server will weed out over quoting of =
the=20
previous message, certain course or inflammatory words or phrases, but =
pays no=20
attention to your spelling or sentence structure. Not all of us have =
good=20
typing skills or good knowledge of these infernal machines and such is =
not=20
required. What we're interested in here and on the mlml is good folks =
sharing=20
their knowledge and ideas in a civil, helpful =
manner.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In your first few messages to the =
list your=20
expected to share some basic information about yourself so that folks =
have a=20
chance to "know you", which is important since we are not setting =
across a=20
fire from each other. To weed out people who have hidden =
agendas, the=20
first few posts from any new member are reviewed by a live =
moderator. No=20
posts are rejected that are on topic and are following the simple =
rules=20
established.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>But the bottom line seems to be =
whether you care=20
enough or have enough respect for the others who abide by the rules to =
abide=20
by them yourself. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>And no one is too old to learn new =
tricks or=20
learn how to play by the rules. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>< I'm to old to be waiting on pups =
to either=20
approve my context/spelling etc or disapprove...=20
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>35 things must be in orger to post =
and wind must=20
be from south etc. etc.....></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Unless much has changed since I took my turn as a moderator on =
that list,=20
no one is approving your context/spelling, etc. only reviewing that =
your=20
following the rules. If you have problems with that then you probably=20
shouldn't be on that list. It's of course your choice. But you will =
miss out=20
on much good information just as the other members will miss out on =
what you=20
have to bring to the table.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>YMOS<BR>Capt. Lahti'</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></FONT></DIV>
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