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hist_text-digest        Tuesday, July 24 2001        Volume 01 : Number 833



In this issue:

-áááááá MtMan-List: Re: Rank smellin rawhide
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Re: Rank smellin rawhide
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Rifle Cleaning
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Miller's sketches
-áááááá MtMan-List: Alfred Miller's Paintings
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Re: Rank smellin rawhide
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Re: Rank smellin rawhide
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Rifle Cleaning
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Miller's sketches
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Re: Rank smellin rawhide
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Re: Rank smellin rawhide
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Re: Rank smellin rawhide
-áááááá MtMan-List: Miles folder...
-áááááá MtMan-List: trade gun?
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: trade gun?
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Miller's sketches
-áááááá MtMan-List: Alfred Jacob Miller Book
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Miller's sketches
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Rifle Cleaning
-áááááá MtMan-List: oil cloth
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: oil cloth
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: oil cloth
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Rifle Cleaning
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Rifle Cleaning
-áááááá RE: MtMan-List: Alfred Jacob Miller Book
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: oil cloth
-áááááá RE: MtMan-List: oil cloth
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: oil cloth
-áááááá MtMan-List: Fort Buenaventura Rondezvous
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: oil cloth
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: oil cloth

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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 01:55:20 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: MtMan-List: Re: Rank smellin rawhide

In a message dated 7/22/01 8:08:34 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<< I had the same thing happen to my skins when I lived in Florida. I used a

50/50 vinegar and water mix and it took it right off. Put them in the sun to

dry.... >>

I don't have mildew, but I've got a rawhide back pack that got wet and now,
even though it's dry, smells kinda rank. I've tried smoking it a bit to get
rid of the bad smell, but no luck. Any ideas on what would work?

Ymos,
Magpie

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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 07:33:17 -0400
From: "Dennis Miles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Rank smellin rawhide

Magpie,
 Are you SURE it is the pack that smells rank???<G>
D



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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 07:47:54 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Rifle Cleaning

cpt L
did the sweet oil make you get up and run in the morning ??????inquiring
minds you know---

nuff said---

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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 07:16:06 -0700
From: "Ole B. Jensen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Miller's sketches

Magpie,
Page 55 of Marvin C. Ross book of Millers drawings. You should be able to
get a copy at the Library or ebay.
Ole
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>Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Miller's sketches
>Date: Sun, Jul 22, 2001, 10:29 PM
>

>
>In a message dated 7/22/01 9:23:02 PM, [e-mail] writes:
>
><< Yesterday, seen another orginal sketch at the Denver Art
>Museum. "Indian Guide" , 1837,  if I remember right. Seventh floor,
>had not seen it before.
>                >>
>
>Thanks Mike,
>I've checked the web a bit and not much to be found on Miller...and no luck
>on the orignal sketch book. I'm gonna get Rex Normans "The 1837 Schetchbook
>of the Western Fur Trade" ...it's got a lot of Miller's drawings in it. I
>need it for reference and ideas on stuff to make...
>
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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 08:31:39 -0500
From: "Glenn Darilek" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Alfred Miller's Paintings

I think the largest collection is at the Walters Gallery in Baltimore.  They
have 200 water colors that Walters commissioned, as well as many oils.  They
only show a few at a time, but they used to have a small room with mostly
his stuff.  If you are a serious researcher, I think you can make
arrangements to see the entire collection.

I went there last month, and was very disappointed that they are still
remodeling the gallery, and only one display of some oriental art was on
view.  I went there more than six months ago, and they were remodeling then
also.  Maybe the art connoisseurs are more interested in the building than
the art.

There are more of Miller's paintings at the Gilcrease? museum in Tulsa,
though I have never seen them.

I think that in Bernard deVoto's "Across the Wide Missouri" he listed the
major repositories of Miller's work in the back of the book.  That is how I
found out about the Walters Gallery.

I don't have them bookmarked, but I think there are at least 10 of his
paintings on the internet.

Glenn Darilek
Iron Burner


[e-mail] wrote:

> Hallo the List,
>
> Does anyone know where the original sketches done by Alfred Miller are
> located? I think someone once said they were in France somewhere, and I've
> got a kid over there that would take some pictures of them, if she knew
where
> to go....
>
> Ymos,
> Magpie
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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 09:56:52 -0400
From: "Addison Miller" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Rank smellin rawhide

> I've got a rawhide back pack that got wet and now, even though it's dry,
smells kinda rank.

I ran into that problem with a leather backpack I bought when I was on
Crete.  Got wet and smelled like dead fish!!  Never did get rid of the
smell. Finally got rid of the BP. That was 22 years ago. Now with newer oder
neutralizers, they may work.  Would suggest trying that in a "mist" from a
spray bottle and not wiping it with a solution.

Ad Miller
Alderson, WV


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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 08:23:21 -0700
From: "rtlahti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Rank smellin rawhide

D.

You notice he didn't ask his hunting buddies?!


Capt. Lahti'


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From: "Dennis Miles" <[e-mail]>
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Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 4:33 AM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Rank smellin rawhide


> Magpie,
>  Are you SURE it is the pack that smells rank???<G>
> D
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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 08:24:59 -0700
From: "rtlahti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Rifle Cleaning

Hawk,

Well inquiring minds will just have to wonder or try it themselves!

Capt. Lahti'


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Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Rifle Cleaning


> cpt L
> did the sweet oil make you get up and run in the morning ??????inquiring
> minds you know---
>
> nuff said---
>
>     "HAWK"
> Michael Pierce        "Home of ".Old Grizz" Product line "  trademark (C)
> 854 Glenfield Dr.
> Palm Harbor florida 34684        Phone Number:  1-727-771-1815
> E-Mail: [e-mail]   Web site:
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>
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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 11:49:03 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Miller's sketches

In a message dated 7/23/1 5:23:02 AM, [e-mail] writes:

<<Hallo the List,
>
> Does anyone know where the original sketches done by Alfred Miller are
> located?>>

The one with the trapper standing in the water is in the Cody Museum in
Wyoming.  It is very small.  Sometimes it is loaned out but I have been
keeping my eye on it for thirty years and it is usually there over by the
Catlin paintings.

Dick James

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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 12:06:22 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Rank smellin rawhide

In a message dated 7/23/1 6:56:54 AM, [e-mail] writes:

<< rawhide back pack that got wet and now,  even though it's dry, smells
kinda rank.>>

The smell is from decay - fungus - bacterial activity . . . what everyou want
to call it.  Kill the little beasties with a disinfectant or every time they
get moist they will begin their work again and you will smell the by-product.
 If you can get something on there that will penetrate their little cell
walls through the osmotic process they will die and the deterioration will
cease.  Prime in breakdown are oxygen, sunlight, and bacteria.  They all go
to work on organic materials - sun and oxygen do the inorganics.

RJames

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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 13:41:03 -0400
From: "Dennis Miles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Rank smellin rawhide

Cap't,
 Yeah, I did...<GH>
D



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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 14:28:50 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Rank smellin rawhide

In a message dated 7/23/01 4:34:33 AM, [e-mail] writes:

<< Magpie,

 Are you SURE it is the pack that smells rank???<G>

D >>
<<You notice he didn't ask his hunting buddies?!
Capt. Lahti'>>

Haaaaa..... thanks for the helpful hints boys.... While I've been known to
come out of the woods after a week, "smellin like a rose", I'm pretty sure
it's the pack...<G> Think I'll give it a light spray of Lysol first, then
smoke it again. It's a neat, box like, pack and you can even eat it in
starvin times.... with the right amount of whisky to wash it down. Hate to
have to burn it.

Magpie

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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 14:37:00 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: MtMan-List: Miles folder...

Wooooohooo!

Dennis just sent me a slick little folder, that I dearly like! While it
didn't come with the optional cork screw, tweezers, and hidden tooth pick,
I'll still have sumtin sharp while I'm out plowing the fields wid my other
knife....<G>
Nice job, Dennis.

Magpie

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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 17:06:48 -0500
From: jim gossett <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: trade gun?

I recently bought an origninal Trade Gun but it is somewhat puzzling.
The gun is 58 cal smoothbore 38.5 inch  barrel The flint lock is over
1.5 wide x 7" long with an 1810 date .Inside the lock on the tumbler is
a number 44 . The lock also has a bridle. The ramrod pipes are very much
like the 2nd model Brown Bess even the ram rod entrance pipe. All brass
mountings small trihher guard like a Wilson but without the fineal. flat
butt plate (brass) .  The barrel has a fixed rear site and is painted
black with this stamped on the barrel JPR | EXR|3. The gun is very well
put together wood to metal fit etc.There is a V scratched on the inside
of lock inside of the buttplate on the under side of the barrel and in
the stock channel .The ramrod is metal and the frant site is like a
bayonet stud . Any help would be good. Gentleman James


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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 18:21:53 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: trade gun?

Realizing HBC was still distributing these pieces into the 1880s (percussion
by then) there is a chance for all manner of variations.  I have to recall
what Charlie Hansen told me one time:  First he made the point that almost
all were walnut stocked and he used to weigh them to make the point they were
lighter than the maple stocked.  The Vs were possibly 5s and were used to
keep all the parts of that particular gun together.  I have had an old barrel
with the front sight looking like a bayonet  lug but I can't remember the
particulars.  Some were painted, but usually a dull red.  I have seen one,
only, black.  I have an original barrel found in the flood plain above the
Snake River in Idaho. It has Fox-on-the-tombstone stamped along with many
other proofs and viewed marks.  It has half of the word "Warrented" stamped
underneath near the breech plug.  It is correct for the period with serifs on
each letter.  It is hard to tell if file marks were visible on "the  part
that showed".  Where the wedding bands were, however, there was one ring
filed all the way around the barrel - probably as a guide.  The rest were
filed only in "the part that showed".
Something you might consider:  At one time "Trade Guns" were distributed to
the Indians having their own definition of the time.  They were"Guns" and
meant for "trade.  The would shoot, but they were made up of whatever parts
were at hand.  I have one.  It has no entry pipe, no butt plate and the
trigger guard has been sprung from long (set triggers?) to single trigger but
with a large bow - not quite a trade gun pattern.  Until the beginning of
World War II Belgium was sending flintlocks to Africa where cartridge gun
ownership was illegal to the locals.  They had a loose standard but they
would be made pretty much from what was on hand.  "Waste not -- want not."

This may help you or it may give someone else a chance to say "No way!  That
ain't right!"  Let me tell you how it REALLY is . . . .

And a good day to you
Richard James

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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 17:47:17 -0600
From: Mike Moore <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Miller's sketches

Todd,
    If I remember right, it is a muscular young man with a roach
or mohawk cut of black hair. Bare chested, riding a horse. He is stopped
next to Stewart, pointing off to his left. It is a ink with a small amount
of water color wash. Like alot of Miller's field sketches, only the
two men, (the Indian and Stewart) are in focus. Not a lot of detail,
both have long guns with them laying over their saddles, nice horses.
 Todd, if you need more info, let me know. I can go back ( I live close
to the museum) and am a member- so I get in free. Was disappointed in
the main attraction there, the "European Masters".
                                                  mike.

Todd Glover wrote:

> Mike,
>
> Could you describe what "The Indian Guide" looked like? I hear tell that
> someone had recently "Discovered" a Miller painting that shows
> some very different dress styles than most of his painting. Maybe this is
> the painting.
>
> "Teton" Todd D. Glover
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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 18:41:30 -0600
From: Todd Glover <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Alfred Jacob Miller Book

Speaking of Millers sketches......I have an exlibrary, first-edition,
hard-bound "The West of Alfred Jacob Miller" that I would be willing to
part with. (Have another one for my library.) If anyone is interested, I
will run this like an auction, and will entertain offers until Saturday
night. Between now and then I will keep you all posted on the current
high bid. Of course I have set a reserve price which I feel is only fair.
Look on bookfinder.com or some other used book site and see what these
are going for. Open for bids.......

Did I mention that everything above my cost goes to the land fund?

"Teton" Todd D. Glover
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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 18:30:02 -0600
From: Todd Glover <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Miller's sketches

Mike,

Thanks for the info. This doesn't sound like the reported "discovery" I
heard about.
The one I'm talking about supposedly has a Longhunter type character in
it. Does the museum sell reproductions of the paintings there?

"Teton" Todd D. Glover
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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 22:08:22 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Rifle Cleaning

CPT L

this old pup aint going to bite on that one aint got time to squirt and
run---(GBG)

nuff said

HAWK

On Mon, 23 Jul 2001 08:24:59 -0700 "rtlahti" <[e-mail]>
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> Hawk,
>
> Well inquiring minds will just have to wonder or try it themselves!
>
> Capt. Lahti'
>
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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 23:32:30 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: MtMan-List: oil cloth

Mark Baker would be proud!
For those considering making one, I just finished a neat little 7.5X7.5 oil
cloth out of a queen size Egyptian cotton sheet. (220 threads per inch!) It
took a little less than a quart of boiled linseed oil, (no thinner or
turpentine added) and near a pound of yellow iron oxide to cover it well.
Baker sez you need two days in the sun to dry, and seven in the shade to
loose the smell... Hmmmm.... hard to get two days of sun in a row on this
side of the Cascades, but will see how long it takes to dry and report back.
I'm thinking this little shelter won't weigh more than a couple pounds when
it's done.

Ymos,
Magpie

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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 21:52:44 -0600
From: Todd Glover <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: oil cloth

Magpie,

Made a rain poncho outta the same kinda sheet. Works well.

"Teton" Todd D. Glover
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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 23:57:04 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: oil cloth

Hi Teton,
Just looking at your web site.....

Hey put me down for $50 for the book... doubt that's enough, but a start
anyway.

Ymos,
Magpie

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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 20:58:53 -0700
From: "rtlahti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Rifle Cleaning

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> CPT L
>
> this old pup aint going to bite on that one aint got time to squirt and
> run---(GBG)
>
> nuff said


Hawk,

No guts, no glory.

Capt. Lahti'



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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 21:18:37 -0700
From: "rtlahti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Rifle Cleaning

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> CPT L
>
> this old pup aint going to bite on that one aint got time to squirt and
> run---(GBG)

Hawk,

No guts, no glory!

Capt. Lahti'



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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 21:28:32 -0700
From: "Randal Bublitz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Alfred Jacob Miller Book

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Todd, I haven't checked anything, but...I will start the bidding at
$100  .  hardtack








. Open for bids.......



Did I mention that everything above my cost goes to the land fund?



"Teton" Todd D. Glover

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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 21:26:41 -0700
From: "rtlahti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: oil cloth

Hmmmm.... hard to get two days of sun in a row on this
> side of the Cascades, but will see how long it takes to dry and report
back.
> I'm thinking this little shelter won't weigh more than a couple pounds
when
> it's done.

Magpie,

Until it dries, you can not camp within 100 yards of us-down wind! And no
smoking! <G>

Of course we won't be able to smell your scent so there is an up side.

Capt. Lahti'



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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 21:33:34 -0700
From: "Randal Bublitz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: oil cloth

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Magpie,  I'm ignorant on fine sheets and such.  Is egyptian
cotton readily available?  I did a search about a month ago and came up
empty handed.  I've heard of this material, and it's suitability for
oilcloth, but I couldn't fing it.  Please advise this pilgrm.  Thanks,
hardtack






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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 23:56:18 -0400
From: "Addison Miller" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: oil cloth

How about a KING sheet?  Heh.... being 6'4", I'd need a larget one...

Ad Miller
Alderson, WV

> For those considering making one, I just finished a neat little 7.5X7.5
oil
> cloth out of a queen size Egyptian cotton sheet. (220 threads per inch!)


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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 12:06:02 -0600
From: "Scott Gottschall" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Fort Buenaventura Rondezvous

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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 16:29:23 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Brad Everett)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: oil cloth

Trapper,
 Trek'n through time, backwards!
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> For those considering making one, I just finished a neat little 7.5X7.5
oil
> cloth out of a queen size Egyptian cotton sheet. (220 threads per inch!) >
Baker sez you need two days in the sun to dry, and seven in the shade to
> loose the smell... > Ymos,
> Magpie
  HI magpie, just did a new haversack made of linen the same way. It dryed
in  about two days in the  sun and three in the shade, but its been going on
three weeks now, with very high humidity,and the odor is still quite strong.
But it is quite waterproof and sure does look purty!


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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 15:52:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: Chris Sega <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: oil cloth

As fer Oil cloth, I have found it to be smelly up to a
year after making it, stiff in cold weather, and prone
to tear.

Now I could have used too much linseed, and or had
poor quality linseed. but I have experimented on
smaller stuff in differing quantities and amounts of
iron oxide linseed thinner and so on.  I've found it
to be more trouble to make than it is worth

Smoked canvas turns water well enough in my book.

What are you experiences with its use?

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