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hist_text-digest        Tuesday, June 26 2001        Volume 01 : Number 821



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-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: omething different
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: AMM National
-áááááá MtMan-List: [e-mail]
-áááááá MtMan-List: Youth Presentation
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Riverton WY Rendezvous
-áááááá RE: MtMan-List: Youth Presentation
-áááááá MtMan-List: E.P.R.
-áááááá MtMan-List: Newby here...question please
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: [e-mail]
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Newby here...question please
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Youth Presentation
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-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Riverton WY Rendezvous
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-áááááá MtMan-List: need infor about baynton,wharton and morgan
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: correct  headwear new post
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-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: need infor about baynton,wharton and morgan
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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 21:53:39 -0500
From: John Kramer <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: omething different

http://www.beepworld.de/members4/fireworkx/woerterbuch.htm


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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 22:36:41 -0600
From: Allen Hall <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: AMM National

At 08:50 PM 06/23/2001 EDT, you wrote:
>Going to Idaho Got any sugestions for must see places between there and
>Colorado.
>I got a few in mind Henry's 1910 camp and 1911 fort, Fort Hall, Fort Bridger,&
> Pine Dale Museum Of the Mountain Man. May be just good places to stop and
>think.
>Thanks Roadkill

When you head west from Pinedale, you'll overlook the site of several of the
Green River rendezvous.  There's an overlook point there.  A bit further
down the road you take about a 3 mile cut off to Bonneville's fort site.
Worth the short hop for a historical spot and site of one of the original
rendezvous.  From there go west down the Hoback, you'll go through Jackson's
Little Hole, and when you reach the Snake River, turn north and go to
Jackson's big hole and visit.  Then head over the Teton Pass that every
mountain man who travelled this bit of the country went over, and you'll
drop into Pierre's Hole, now known as the Teton Valley.  There's some
dispute about where the Battle of Pierre's Hole took place, but following
Ferris and Wyeth's description, it's just west of Victor in Pierre's Hole.

From there go north to Driggs and continue on.  Just past Tetonia, there a
"senic byway"  that that and you'll go right past Camp Henry on Conant
Creek.  Our party has "diggin rights" to a nice patch of camas just north of
there.  This cut off will drop you off in Ashton, ID.  Turn right there and
go to Island Park and the Yale-Kilgore highway will get you the rest of the
way to the doin's.

Enjoy the trip, you're going through mountain man country the whole way, WAUGH!

Allen


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Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 12:59:21 -0700
From: "Trent Shue" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: [e-mail]

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 "The Mountainmen and the Fur Trade of the Far West"
      Leblanc, William  Volume V, Pages171-172=20
      Turley, Simeon   Volume VII, 301-314=20


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A copy of these pages would also be very much appreciated.

 This are the original books published by Arthur H Clark before 1972. =
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Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 18:32:55 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: MtMan-List: Youth Presentation

I have the opportunity to do a living history presentation during a week long
YMCA camp in the San Bernardino Mountains. The groups will be about 10
campers each, twice a day, for an hour or so, and the campers are in the 8-11
age range.

I have slated some Dutch Oven Cooking, flint and steel fire-starting, hands
on display of primitive tools and weapons i.e. traps, flint knives,
flintlocks, sundial, etc, but am looking for other ideas as well.

Any suggestions?        Thanks,  Barney

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Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 20:26:41 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Riverton WY Rendezvous

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Does anyone have more information on the rendezvous in Riverton Wy. Date and
location? Thanks Roadkill

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Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 18:05:02 -0700
From: Pat Quilter <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Youth Presentation

Cordage (hand twisted, or using the simple cranked machine if available),
and a selection of furs if available, always go over well with that age
group.
Pat Quilter

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I have the opportunity to do a living history presentation during a week
long
YMCA camp in the San Bernardino Mountains. The groups will be about 10
campers each, twice a day, for an hour or so, and the campers are in the
8-11
age range.

I have slated some Dutch Oven Cooking, flint and steel fire-starting, hands
on display of primitive tools and weapons i.e. traps, flint knives,
flintlocks, sundial, etc, but am looking for other ideas as well.

Any suggestions?        Thanks,  Barney

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Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 21:26:01 -0400
From: Marc Stewart <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: E.P.R.

Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 23:23:07 -0400
From: "'bella" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 20:19:55 -0500

and for us stuck up here in the northeast, piggsburgh.. flash floods and
al
that... i can finally catch
up on the list reading.
anyone going to the eastern primitive in Sept?



I'll be going as well. I'm sure you'll see me. I'll be the one circling
overhead in the helo doing the aerial photography. My apologies in
advance for the 20th century intrusion but  keep in mind that the money
will help fund more Easterns.
I hope to meet you all there.
                    Marc


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Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 21:24:54 -0400
From: "cd252" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Newby here...question please

Greetings all,

I am new to this board and primitive living in general. I just wanted to say
hi!

I have learned alot already...reading the AMM message board archives on the
net.

My question is... are there any "primitive" events here in the East? I live
in Northeastern Pennsylvania.

Regards to all,
Big Dave


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Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 22:04:20 EDT
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Tret
You local library might have the full set. An original set will cot over
$1800 up to 2400 the reprints by Arthur Clark are coming out every two or
three months for the next two to three years. About 55.00 each.
Thanks Mark  Roadkill Loader

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<BR>You local library might have the full set. An original set will cot over
<BR>$1800 up to 2400 the reprints by Arthur Clark are coming out every two or
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Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 22:04:56 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Newby here...question please

Dave, Suggest you run a search for 'Mountain Man Rendezvous', and you will
come up with events, as well as links pages to other sources.  Also, the
Smoke and Fire News and the Territorial Dispatch both publish lists of events
across the country.  Here are a couple of links that may help get you
started.   Hope to share a campfire with you soon,  Barney

 <A HREF="http://www.rondylist.com/">RondyList pre-1840 American living
history</A>
 <A HREF="http://www.reenactor.net/">Reenactor.Net Main</A>
<A HREF="http://reenactment.about.com/hobbies/reenactment/mbody.htm">
Historical Reenactment - Home Page</A>
 <A HREF="http://www.netport.com/jharvill/schedule.htm">Rondee Schedule</A>

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Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 20:01:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jerry & Barbara Zaslow <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Youth Presentation

Ralph,

Here are a couple of suggestions.  A class on edible plants that are native
to the area would be quite useful.  Also how to field dress an animal and
snares could also be quite useful.  There should also be some fiberous
plants in the area that could be used to make cordage and if so, a class on
how to make cordage.  Another useful skill to teach would be how to cook
using only primative materials.

Just a few other suggestions.

Best Regards,

Jerry Zaslow #1488
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At 06:32 PM 06/25/2001 EDT, you wrote:
>I have the opportunity to do a living history presentation during a week long
>YMCA camp in the San Bernardino Mountains. The groups will be about 10
>campers each, twice a day, for an hour or so, and the campers are in the 8-11
>age range.
>
>I have slated some Dutch Oven Cooking, flint and steel fire-starting, hands
>on display of primitive tools and weapons i.e. traps, flint knives,
>flintlocks, sundial, etc, but am looking for other ideas as well.
>
>Any suggestions?        Thanks,  Barney
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Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 23:38:48 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Youth Presentation

WOW! Thanks Jerry. Those are definitely worthwhile things to check out. I
hope this note finds you and yours well, and I sure do miss seein' your
shinin' smile!  Ralph

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Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 23:40:23 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Youth Presentation

OOPS!!!  Sorry for that last post. Damm if those senior moments aren't coming
more often! <VBG>    Ralph

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Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 22:45:43 -0500
From: John Kramer <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Youth Presentation

Barney,

You've been around long enough for me to wonder if you aren't intentionally
baiting me with this question?

If you are portraying the pre-1840 mountain man era -- don't do dutch oven
cooking.  It would only help perpetuate the myth.

If you are doing mid-period, then perhaps, but that documentation is still
far from conclusive.

If you are doing Cowboy, and late nineteenth century Sodbuster, then you
can be accurate in portrayal with modern camp oven cooking.

If you are doing an early reflector or earth banked dutch oven please
pardon my intrusion.  It is not what most mean when they say dutch oven
cooking.

Pat is right a rope twisting machine is popular.  It gets the kids involved
- --hands on.

A simple craft project like making a decorated feather or a medicine bag
can be done inexpensively and give the kids a real feeling of accomplishment.

Eight to Eleven year olds can learn back braiding and finishing of a length
of rope: a skill useful for the rest of their life.

Teach basic knots half hitch, square, sheet bend, bowline &c.

100' coils of 3 strand twist 1/4" or 3/8" rope are pretty inexpensive.

You don't have enough time to do it all.  Pick what you can do best that
teaches the most.

John...



At 06:32 PM 6/25/01 -0400, you wrote:
>I have the opportunity to do a living history presentation during a week long
>YMCA camp in the San Bernardino Mountains. The groups will be about 10
>campers each, twice a day, for an hour or so, and the campers are in the 8-11
>age range.
>
>I have slated some Dutch Oven Cooking, flint and steel fire-starting, hands
>on display of primitive tools and weapons i.e. traps, flint knives,
>flintlocks, sundial, etc, but am looking for other ideas as well.
>
>Any suggestions?        Thanks,  Barney
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"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for
lunch.  Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."

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Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 23:56:34 -0600
From: Allen Hall <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Riverton WY Rendezvous

Roadkill,

I think it runs over 4th of July.  Check Muzzle Loader magazine, they
usually have a ad for the ronnyvoo in it.

Allen

At 08:26 PM 06/25/2001 EDT, you wrote:
>Does anyone have more information on the rendezvous in Riverton Wy. Date and
>location? Thanks Roadkill
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Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 00:41:58 -0600
From: "Kim & Jen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Riverton WY Rendezvous

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go to www.1838rendezvous.com

this is our homepage and you get allthe info you want, the segundos =
phone number has changed though, but you can get him at this e-mail:
[e-mail]
        thanks
           jenaka
p.s. allen, are you going to show up this year?
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Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 11:47:51 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Youth Presentation

In a message dated 6/25/01 8:47:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes: << to wonder if you aren't intentionally baiting
me with this question? >>

John, Thanks for the smile, but NO, I'm not baiting you, I was asking the
question seriously.  Dealing with kids that age is not my forte', and I was
sure some of the guys would have great ideas.

My biggest concern was dealing with the attention span of this age group.
Don't forget I'm going to be doing an hour's worth of presentation to minds
with a 15 minute (or in some cases, second) capacity!

In that regard, the Directors of the camp made a specific request that I do
some cast iron Dutch Oven cooking, specifically to prepare a dessert at the
start of the presentation, let it bake during, then serve it at the end. So
it will be.

I am not restricted to the pre-1840 period, and my intent is to show, through
comparison with modern tools, what was used in earlier times. It is also my
intent to focus briefly on wilderness survival, but only as related to fire,
shelter and possibly direction of travel.

Yes, this all HAS to be PC, but sadly, the 'P' in this case is that
disgusting word... politically. ;(.

The ideas from you guys re: cordage are excellent, and that will become a
part of the presentation, as it is not only fascinating to watch, but can
definitely be a hands-on experience for the campers.  I am going to make some
lucets today, as I feel those will be a great interactive demo. If anybody in
the Southern California area has a mechanical winder that I could use for the
week, please let me know, and I will make arangements for the pick up and
return of it.

Please keep the ideas coming..........   Barney

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Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 13:41:38 -0500
From: "John & Nancy McKee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Youth Presentation

Barney,
    One thing that has always worked for me with that age group is to bring
along a finished beaver pelt (or better yet one that is strung out on a
willow hoop). If you ask real nice, maybe Short Step will let you borrow his
buffalo robe to lay out all your gear for show and tell.
    Will the leaders of the group let you load and fire off your smoke pole
(without ball, of course)? That really gets some wide eyes.
    YMOS,  John
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Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Youth Presentation


> In a message dated 6/25/01 8:47:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> [e-mail] writes: << to wonder if you aren't intentionally
baiting
> me with this question? >>
>
> John, Thanks for the smile, but NO, I'm not baiting you, I was asking the
> question seriously.  Dealing with kids that age is not my forte', and I
was
> sure some of the guys would have great ideas.
>
> My biggest concern was dealing with the attention span of this age group.
> Don't forget I'm going to be doing an hour's worth of presentation to
minds
> with a 15 minute (or in some cases, second) capacity!
>
> In that regard, the Directors of the camp made a specific request that I
do
> some cast iron Dutch Oven cooking, specifically to prepare a dessert at
the
> start of the presentation, let it bake during, then serve it at the end.
So
> it will be.
>
> I am not restricted to the pre-1840 period, and my intent is to show,
through
> comparison with modern tools, what was used in earlier times. It is also
my
> intent to focus briefly on wilderness survival, but only as related to
fire,
> shelter and possibly direction of travel.
>
> Yes, this all HAS to be PC, but sadly, the 'P' in this case is that
> disgusting word... politically. ;(.
>
> The ideas from you guys re: cordage are excellent, and that will become a
> part of the presentation, as it is not only fascinating to watch, but can
> definitely be a hands-on experience for the campers.  I am going to make
some
> lucets today, as I feel those will be a great interactive demo. If anybody
in
> the Southern California area has a mechanical winder that I could use for
the
> week, please let me know, and I will make arangements for the pick up and
> return of it.
>
> Please keep the ideas coming..........   Barney
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Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 18:27:11 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: MtMan-List: correct  headwear new post

I had a question about proper(pc) headgear, and figured you all would be the
best resource.  Is a "bandana" appropriate headgear?  I don't mean one of
your daddy's red or blue ones like I carry 24/7, but a piece of cloth.  if
so,  would I be ok with a square of broadcloth.  I've heard or read somewhere
that silk was also used.  Any help in this would be most welcome.  Thanks in
advance.


YMHS,

Wade "Sleeps Loudly" Smith
Boise,Id

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Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 18:26:02 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: MtMan-List: need infor about baynton,wharton and morgan

does anyone know of a website on  baynton,wharton and morgan.Looking for
infor on what morgan may have carried in his store a kaskaskia.
thank you

Traphand
Rick Petzoldt
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 19:13:23 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: correct  headwear new post

In a message dated 6/26/1 4:27:55 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<<would I be ok with a square of broadcloth.  I've heard or read somewhere
that silk was also used. >>

Black silk a yard square was common from before Rev War times.
RJames

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Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 12:27:32 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Youth Presentation

barny---if you want i can measure the wooden rope maker-twister one i
have and try to give you a sketch or a verbal discription of it---

Nuff said
    "HAWK"
Michael Pierce        "Home of ".Old Grizz" Product line "  trademark (C)
854 Glenfield Dr.
Palm Harbor florida 34684        Phone Number:  1-727-771-1815
E-Mail: [e-mail]   Web site:
http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/mpierce

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Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 19:21:37 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: need infor about baynton,wharton and morgan

Rick, Hope some of these will work.... The second and fourth looked
promising, but it seems that a trip to a microfilm library might be the
ticket.   Barney

 <A HREF="http://sun3.lib.uci.edu/~slca/microform/resources/b/b_009.htm">
Baynton, Wharton, and Morgan Papers, 1757-1787, in the Pennslvania State
Archives</A>

 <A HREF="http://www.phmc.state.pa.us/DAM/mg/mg19.htm">PA State Archives -
MG-19 - Scope and Content Note - Sequestered Baynton, Wharton & Morgan Papers
</A>

<A HREF="http://www.libertynet.org/dlar/">The David Library of the American
Revolution</A>

<A HREF="http://www.gbl.indiana.edu/archives/miamis18/M68-70_22a.html">
Account from Fort Chartres -1768</A>

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Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 19:17:03 -0700
From: "Larry Huber" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Youth Presentation

Pat,
Help me out.  I'm leaving Thursday for the Nationals and I can' t find the
directions to the doin's...I've lost the Mocassin Mail!  Can I get you to
Email me those directions?  Or anyone else out there?
Much appreciated.
Larry Huber
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From: "Pat Quilter" <[e-mail]>
To: <[e-mail]>
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 6:05 PM
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Youth Presentation


> Cordage (hand twisted, or using the simple cranked machine if available),
> and a selection of furs if available, always go over well with that age
> group.
> Pat Quilter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 3:33 PM
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: MtMan-List: Youth Presentation
>
>
> I have the opportunity to do a living history presentation during a week
> long
> YMCA camp in the San Bernardino Mountains. The groups will be about 10
> campers each, twice a day, for an hour or so, and the campers are in the
> 8-11
> age range.
>
> I have slated some Dutch Oven Cooking, flint and steel fire-starting,
hands
> on display of primitive tools and weapons i.e. traps, flint knives,
> flintlocks, sundial, etc, but am looking for other ideas as well.
>
> Any suggestions?        Thanks,  Barney
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