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hist_text-digest Wednesday, May 9 2001 Volume 01 : Number 799
In this issue:
-áááááá MtMan-List: Hat
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Macaroni
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Macaroni
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Chinook Jargon
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Macaroni
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Macaroni
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Macaroni
-áááááá MtMan-List: Mole
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Mole
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Macaroni
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Macaroni
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Macaroni
-áááááá MtMan-List: OT Request
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: OT Request
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: OT Request
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: OT Request
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: OT Request
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Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 07:13:57 -0700
From: "Ole B. Jensen" <olebjensen@earthlink.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: Hat
Hello the camp,
The Philidelphia Light Horse Dragoons (1778) , had as part of the uniform a
leather cap decorated with a buck tail and" a chin strap to keep it on one's
head while riding. Ain't that the same thing as a stamped string? or at
least the same concept?.
YMOS
Ole # 718
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Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 07:18:09 -0600
From: Angela Gottfred <agottfre@telusplanet.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Macaroni
And here's the definition from the c.1806 edition of Samuel Johnson's
dictionary:
MACARONI: a kind of paste meat boiled in broth, and dressed with butter,
cheese, and spice. A sort of droll or fool; and thence the application of
the word to a fop.
MACARONICK. A confused heap or mixture of several things.
MACARONICK. A kind of burlesque poetry, intermixing several languages,
latinizing words of vulgar use, and modernizing Latin words.
MACAROON. A pert, meddling fellow; a busy body. A kind of sweet biscuit,
made of flour, almonds, eggs, and sugar.
Your humble & obedient servant,
Angela Gottfred
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Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 15:44:44 EDT
From: SWzypher@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Macaroni
In a message dated 5/7/1 06:13:26 AM, olebjensen@earthlink.net writes:
<<Some times you have to use the reins to keep the horse going in the right
direction. >>
Ole. I know this is a really profound statement, but it is a wee bit over my
head. What do you have in mind?
Sincerely your friend,
Dick
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Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 21:42:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Possum Hunter" <icurapossum_hunter2@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Chinook Jargon
Magpie wrote on 5/4/01 12:00:
>In other words, is anyone interested in learning some jargon through =
email notes?=20
I am! I am always eager to learn new (old) things. Are you going to set =
up a email group for this?
Possum
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Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 20:39:51 -0700
From: "Ole B. Jensen" <olebjensen@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Macaroni
Dick,
Sometimes this e-mail sounds like a chat room and when it does I and many
others try to get the discussion back on track and besides I just felt it
was worth talking about. Like you said good information and learning has
come out of it.
YMOS
Ole # 718
Youre former camp tender.
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>From: SWzypher@aol.com
>To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Macaroni
>Date: Mon, May 7, 2001, 12:44 PM
>
>
>In a message dated 5/7/1 06:13:26 AM, olebjensen@earthlink.net writes:
>
><<Some times you have to use the reins to keep the horse going in the right
>direction. >>
>
>Ole. I know this is a really profound statement, but it is a wee bit over my
>head. What do you have in mind?
>Sincerely your friend,
>Dick
>
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Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 23:33:31 EDT
From: SWzypher@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Macaroni
In a message dated 5/7/1 07:41:10 PM, olebjensen@earthlink.net writes:
<<Sometimes this e-mail sounds like a chat room and when it does I and many
others try to get the discussion back on track and besides I just felt it
was worth talking about. Like you said good information and learning has
come out of it.
YMOS
Ole # 718>>
And there is always a bright spot on my screen when I look down the list of
messages and there is one from Ole. Keep 'em stirred up, Amigo!
Incidentally - do you have Tony Zuccas phone no.? Just saw him at the
PowWow and learned he had lost that foot. I have an obsolete number but want
to let him know I picked up a buffalo foot (4) for him so he can have a
prosthesis made like the one Walt MacCurdy had.
Cheers to you and the family
Dick
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Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 07:53:29 -0700
From: "Ole B. Jensen" <olebjensen@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Macaroni
Dick,
Tony's phone number is= 313-9875
He said that he will be at the next "Geezer camp" in October, if I can get
Brent Born to show that would make a pair. Saw Glen Jones Saturday, said he
was rejoining.
YMOS
Ole # 718
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>From: SWzypher@aol.com
>To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Macaroni
>Date: Mon, May 7, 2001, 8:33 PM
>
>
>In a message dated 5/7/1 07:41:10 PM, olebjensen@earthlink.net writes:
>
><<Sometimes this e-mail sounds like a chat room and when it does I and many
>others try to get the discussion back on track and besides I just felt it
>was worth talking about. Like you said good information and learning has
>come out of it.
>YMOS
>Ole # 718>>
>
>And there is always a bright spot on my screen when I look down the list of
>messages and there is one from Ole. Keep 'em stirred up, Amigo!
>
> Incidentally - do you have Tony Zuccas phone no.? Just saw him at the
>PowWow and learned he had lost that foot. I have an obsolete number but want
>to let him know I picked up a buffalo foot (4) for him so he can have a
>prosthesis made like the one Walt MacCurdy had.
>Cheers to you and the family
>Dick
>
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Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 08:14:48 -0600
From: "Sickler, Louis L" <louis.l.sickler@lmco.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: Mole
Ho the List,
The recent discussion about mole got the taste buds a-rumblin for =
something
they hadn't had for a long time. I dug through some recipes I had from =
back
when I lived in New Mexico and finally found this one. Made it this
weekend, having more for lunch, can't wait! Thought I'd share it with =
the
rest of you.
MOLE
1/4 lb. dried chiles negros 1/4 lb. chiles
anchos
3 cups hot water or broth 1 whole head garlic,
unpeeled=20
1/2 cup sesame seeds 2 dried avocado
leaves=20
1 bolillo or French roll 3 oz walnuts
2 tortillas 3 oz almonds=20
1/4 cup raisins 4" stick
cinnamon=20
3 whole cloves 6 whole allspice=20
1 sprig each marjoram, thyme and oregano
or 1/4 teaspoon of each dried 2 medium white onions,
chopped=20
lard or corn oil 1/4 lb.
tomatillos, husked
1/2 lb. tomatoes 2 tablets (4
oz) Mexican chocolate=20
salt and sugar to taste=20
Preparation:
Remove seeds and devein chiles. Toast them until they are fragrant
but not burned.
Soak them in the hot water or broth for 20 minutes, place chiles
with the soaking liquid in a blender or food processor and pur=E9e. =
Set
aside for later.
On a dry comal or cast iron pan, toast the sesame seeds, avocado
leaves, garlic,
bolillo, tortillas until browned. Set aside.
Fry the almonds, nuts, raisins, cinnamon, allspice, herbs and onions
in lard or corn oil until the onions begin to soften. Set aside.
Roast the tomatillos and tomatoes on the comal.=20
Place them in the blender or food processor with the toasted
ingredients and the
fried ingredients and pur=E9e until smooth, adding enough water or
broth to allow the
blades to move. This may require blending or processing in two
batches.
Heat a little lard or corn oil in a large, heavy-bottomed stockpot
or dutch oven.
Add the blended ingredients and cook over low heat for 45 minutes.
Add the chile pur=E9e and continue cooking for another hour.
Add the chocolate, cooking and stirring until it has melted.
Add salt and sugar to taste.
At this point, the mole may be refrigerated or frozen for later use,
or used in the
turkey recipe below.
Note: If a hotter flavor is desired, the seeds from the chiles may
be reserved
and toasted along with the sesame seeds, then blended with the other
ingredients.
Turkey
1 7-8 lb. turkey 1 whole head garlic=20
1 large white onion 3-4 sprigs hierba buena or
other aromatic herb=20
3 bay leaves 6 black peppercorns=20
salt to taste water to cover=20
1 recipe mole=20
Preparation:
Cut turkey in pieces. Peel garlic cloves. Peel & quarter onion.
Place all
ingredients in a large stockpot and bring to a boil. Cover and cook
over medium heat
until the turkey is tender, about 45 minutes. Remove turkey from
broth and set
aside; strain broth.=20
Heat the mole, stirring constantly, until it begins to soften. Add
the turkey broth
a little at a time, stirring constantly, until the desired thickness
is reached. All
of the turkey broth may not be required, since this is traditionally
a thick sauce.=20
I break the turkey pieces, place in a tortilla and spread some mole
on it, roll it
up & enjoy.=20
Notes:
1) Trust me, the toasted tortillas and bolillo are pureed in with
the rest of the
stuff. A bolillo is like a french roll, slice it, toast it
and put it in
there.
2) hierba buena is spearmint. It really gives the turkey & broth a
wonderful
flavor.
3) There are many brands of Mexican chocolate. Abuelitas is what I
used this time,
Ibarra is good, too.
Never heard of drinking mole, usually too thick. But once you taste =
some,
you can't stop eating it. Don't bother with the little jars of premade
stuff, doesn't shine with this recipe.
Lou Sickler
Sunny (now) Colorado
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Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 12:14:13 -0400
From: hawknest4@juno.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Mole
darn lou---
you make a old man hungry and want to go to the table for the bill de
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Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 13:39:23 EDT
From: SWzypher@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Macaroni
In a message dated 5/8/1 07:01:12 AM, olebjensen@earthlink.net writes:
<<Tony . . .
He said that he will be at the next "Geezer camp" in October, if I can get
Brent Born to show that would make a pair.>>
You are saying that Brent has lost a foot, also?? I picked up four buffalo
feet for Tony to pick through to have a prosthesis made. Maybe he will want
to share with Brent.
Dick
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Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 14:32:31 -0500
From: John Kramer <kramer@kramerize.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Macaroni
Dick,
Ole gets it right once in a while. Brent lost a leg to a crazy woman=20
driving a van 5 to 10 years back. He still runs the Gateway Saloon in=20
Vernal; a biker, mountainman, and other riff-raff friendly sort of place.
John...
At 01:39 PM 5/8/01 -0400, you wrote:
>In a message dated 5/8/1 07:01:12 AM, olebjensen@earthlink.net writes:
>
><<Tony . . .
>He said that he will be at the next "Geezer camp" in October, if I can g=
et
>Brent Born to show that would make a pair.>>
>
>You are saying that Brent has lost a foot, also?? I picked up four buff=
alo
>feet for Tony to pick through to have a prosthesis made. Maybe he will =
want
>to share with Brent.
>
>Dick
John T. Kramer, maker of:=A0
Kramer's Best Antique Improver
>>>It makes wood wonderful<<<
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 >>>As good as old!<<<
<http://www.kramerize.com/>
mail to: <kramer@kramerize.com>
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Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 16:35:09 EDT
From: SWzypher@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Macaroni
In a message dated 5/8/1 12:33:29 PM, kramer@kramerize.com writes:
<<Brent lost a leg to a crazy woman
driving a van 5 to 10 years back>>
Kinda history revisited, huh?
Dick
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Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 22:58:01 EDT
From: Iambrainey@aol.com
Subject: MtMan-List: OT Request
Please bear with me: If anyone has the text to "A Soldier Died Today" would
you please send it to me offlist? My father-in-law, a WW II vet, died
Sunday. Thanks
Ben Rainey
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Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 22:32:38 -0500
From: "Lanney Ratcliff" <amm1585@hyperusa.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: OT Request
Ben
Perhaps this is what you want. If not go to Google.com and initiate a
search for "A soldier died today" (don't forget to use the quotes). About
248 responses were generated.
My father, who died in 1965, was a WWII vet. We owe them all more than we
know. Please accept our sympathies from my family to yours.
Lanney Ratcliff
son of SSgt Willie Ratcliff (16th Infantry Regt, First Division, US Army)
deceased.
http://members.aol.com/famjustin/Soldier1.html
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Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 00:05:44 EDT
From: LivingInThePast@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: OT Request
Ben, Here are links to a couple of versions and the text of one.. Know that
our thoughts and prayers are with you during this very trying time... Barney
<A
HREF="http://home.talkcity.com/homepopup.html?url=/SpiritCir/grandmashome/mem.
html">mem.html</A> <A HREF="http://snipercountry.com/soldier.html">Just A
Simple Soldier</A> <A HREF="http://www.foonh.org/soldier%20ltr.htm">A
Soldier Died Today</A>
A Soldier Died Today
by R.F. Dees and his grandson, Justin Pierce in honor of Memorial Day
and veterans who have fought in wars and conflicts.
(Posted: Marietta Monitor, Marietta, OK May 28, 1999)
He was getting old and paunchy and his hair was falling fast;
And he sat around the Legion, telling stories of the past.
Of a war that he had fought in and the deeds that he had done,
In his exploits with his buddies, they were heroes everyone.
And tho' sometimes to his neighbors, his tales became a joke,
All his legion buddies listened, for they knew whereof he spoke.
But we'll hear his tales no longer, for old John has passed away;
And the world's a little poorer, for a soldier died today.
He'll not be mourned by many, just his children and his wife,
For he lived an ordinary and quite uneventful life.
Held a job and raised a family, quietly going his own way,
And the world won't note his passing, though a soldier died today.
When politicians leave this earth, their bodies lie in state,
And thousands note their passing and proclaim that they were great.
Newspapers tell their life stories, from the time that they were young.
But, the passing of a simple Soldier goes unnoticed and unsung.
Is the greatest contribution to the welfare of our land,
A person who breaks promises and cons his fellow man,
Or the ordinary fellow, who in times of war and strife,
Goes off to serve his Country and offers his life?
It"s so easy to forget them, for it was so long ago,
That the "old Johns" of our country went to battle, but we know,
It was not the politicians, with their promises and ploys,
Who won for us the freedom that our Country now enjoys.
He was just a "common soldier" and his ranks are growing thin.
But, his presence should remind us, we may need his like again.
For when countries are in conflict, then we find the Soldier's part,
Is to clean up the troubles, that others often start.
If we cannot give him honor, while he's here to hear the praise,
Then at least, let's give him homage at the ending of his days.
Perhaps a simple notice, in the paper that would say,
"Our country is in mourning, cause a Soldier died today."
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Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 00:38:14 EDT
From: SWzypher@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: OT Request
In a message dated 5/8/1 07:59:24 PM, Iambrainey@aol.com writes:
<<If anyone has the text to "A Soldier Died Today" would
you please send it to me offlist? >>
On list would be O.K. by me.
Richard James
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Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 09:24:16 -0400
From: "Addison Miller" <admiller@citynet.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: OT Request
My father, a WW II Vet, Addison B. Miller, CDR, USNR, crossed over in 1985.
I'm happy that you had time with yours. My condolences to you and your
family. Not sympathy, for he is happier now.
Ad Miller
Alderson, WV
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