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Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #785
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hist_text-digest Wednesday, April 18 2001 Volume 01 : Number 785
In this issue:
-áááááá RE: MtMan-List: Womens Clothing Revisited
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Womens Clothing Revisited
-áááááá MtMan-List: AMM Land Fund Auction
-áááááá [none]
-áááááá MtMan-List: Re:
-áááááá MtMan-List: Rope for tents.
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Rope for tents.
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Rope for tents.
-áááááá MtMan-List: Opps !!!!!
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Opps !!!!!
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Opps !!!!!
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Rope for tents.
-áááááá MtMan-List: Rope: Buffalo hair horsehair
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Rope: Buffalo hair horsehair
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Rope: Buffalo hair horsehair
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Rope: Buffalo hair horsehair
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Rope for tents.
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Rope: Buffalo hair horsehair
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Opps !!!!!
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Opps !!!!!
-áááááá MtMan-List: North Star West Flintlock Trade Guns
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Rope: Buffalo hair horsehair
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: North Star West Flintlock Trade Guns
-áááááá MtMan-List: Fw: (no subject)
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: North Star West Flintlock Trade Guns
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Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:35:52 -0600
From: Rick Williams <rick_williams@byu.edu>
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Womens Clothing Revisited
Good find Wynn! So we see cotton blue and white gowns. Does anyone =
know
what uncrinolined is referring too? not starched? not ironed?
Rick
- -----Original Message-----
=46rom: owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com
[mailto:owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Gretchen Ormo=
nd
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 12:33 PM
To: Hist mail
Subject: MtMan-List: Womens Clothing Revisited
Some time back we had a discussion about women=92s clothing and there=
was
a limited amount of documentation presented. I have recently found t=
wo
quotes by other authors of original sources that discribe the clothin=
g
worn by women.
The first was written in 1841 about the group leaving the Red River
Settlement for the Columbia. These women were Indian and mixed blood=
s
who had long term ties to the fur trade. They could be considered
Eastern by some, but there so many ties to the Northern Rockies that =
I
believe it bares attention.
The smartly dressed men were riding their showiest steeds, their wive=
s
and daughters were traveling in the carts, enthroned on high heaps of
baggage. Many of the women were clearly of unmingled Indian blood, t=
all
and anangular, long masses of straight black hair fell over their bac=
ks,
blue and white cotton gowns, shapeless, stayless, uncrinolined,
displayed the flatness of their unprojecting figures. Some wore gaud=
y
handkerchief on the head, the married, one also across the bosum.
Children of the Fur Trade. John C Jackson Quote of:
Earl of Southesk, Saskatchewan and the Rocky Mountains (Rutland,Vt.:
Charles Tuttle Co. 1969),44.
The other quote was of Lieutenant Charles Wilkes, United States Navy,
who visited the Columbia during the summer of 1841. He wrote of the
Indian wives he encountered:
The ladies of the country are dressed after our own bygone fashions w=
ith
the exception of leggins made of red or blue cloth, richly ornamented=
.
Their feet, which are small and pretty, are covered with worked
mocasins. Many of them have a dignified look and carriage: their bla=
ck
eyes and hair, and brown ruddy complexion, combined with a pleasing
expression give them an air of independence and usefulness that one
little expects to see. As wives, they are spoken of as most devoted,
and many of them have performed deeds in the hur of danger and
difficulty, worthy of being recorded. . .
Peter Skene Ogden: Fur Trader: Archie Binns. Binfords & Mort 1967.
These quotes may leave as many questions as answers but is always nic=
e
to have something at least.
Wynn Ormond
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Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:52:36 -0500
From: Victoria Pate <vapate@juno.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Womens Clothing Revisited
On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:35:52 -0600 Rick Williams <rick_williams@byu.edu>
writes:
> Good find Wynn! So we see cotton blue and white gowns. Does anyone
> know
> what uncrinolined is referring too? not starched? not ironed?
> Rick
>
Crinoline, a fabric woven of flax and horsehair, was
considered progressive (in the 19th century)
because it was wiry enough to replace two or three
cotton petticoats.
The ladies apparently thought it was better to be
uncrinolined and unstayed while riding on top of
baggage. These were some smart wimmin. <G>
Victoria
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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:48:16 EDT
From: GazeingCyot@cs.com
Subject: MtMan-List: AMM Land Fund Auction
AMM Land Fund Auction
A Brass Mounted J. Henry English Pattern Trade Rifle
And Gear
The Henry Trade Rifles have been called the work horse of the fur trade. In
Charles Hansen's book The Hawkins Rifle And It's Place In History, he notes
the first order for this style Henry was 1826 for the fur trade. Between the
years of 1831 and 1833, Henry's shop produced 400 brass mounted trade rifles
and 60 steel mounted trade rifles. Most all of these being produced for the
fur trade.
So if you're wanting to get yourself a good fur trade period rifle,
here's your chance to get a 44 inch barrel, brass mounted J. Henry English
pattern trade rifle like the ones that were out here in the heyday of the fur
trade. All proceeds from this auction will be going to the AMM land fund. So
help out the AMM and yours self by not letting someone else out bid you on
this fine shootin rig.
To have a look at her and get the info on the Auction go to:
http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/amm/riflerafle.html
Please post this on what ever Lists you think maybe interested In this here
Auction. Help me get the word out.
Thanks For
Your Support
Crazy Cyot
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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 08:50:13 -0400
From: "walter palmer" <longbutt@hotmail.com>
Subject: [none]
when setting up my tent for the 1830 period , what kind of rope should i
use?
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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 08:54:20 -0400
From: "D. Miles" <deforge1@bright.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: Re:
Walter,
I would use jute or hemp.. Grease it as well. I have a 25' section of 1/4"
hemp that waxed and greased and have used constantly for near 9 years and
it is as good as the day I acquired it.
D
"Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e"
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Knives and Iron Accouterments
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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:42:13
From: "Chance Tiffie" <bossloper@hotmail.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: Rope for tents.
According to trade list inventories, coils of manilla rope went to the
Rockies.
Cliff Tiffie
PO Box 5089
Durant, OK
74702
580-924-4187
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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:18:00 -0400
From: "'bella" <smprice1@bellatlantic.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Rope for tents.
manilla as in hemp? ::smiles::
Chance Tiffie wrote:
> According to trade list inventories, coils of manilla rope went to the
> Rockies.
>
> Cliff Tiffie
> PO Box 5089
> Durant, OK
> 74702
> 580-924-4187
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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:22:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: George Noe <gnoe39@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Rope for tents.
I think this is what he means.
Manila hemp, a strong fiber from the leafstalk of a
Phillippine tree related to the banna; abac'a: it is
used for making rope, paper, ect.
- --- 'bella <smprice1@bellatlantic.net> wrote:
> manilla as in hemp? ::smiles::
>
> Chance Tiffie wrote:
>
> > According to trade list inventories, coils of
> manilla rope went to the
> > Rockies.
> >
> > Cliff Tiffie
> > PO Box 5089
> > Durant, OK
> > 74702
> > 580-924-4187
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> >
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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:31:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: George Noe <gnoe39@yahoo.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: Opps !!!!!
Sory, misspelled Banana
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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:53:32 EDT
From: ThisOldFox@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Opps !!!!!
>Sory, misspelled Banana
You ain't too good at "sorry" or "oops" either.
If ya drink, don't type. <G>
Also, if ya drink, don't park.........accidents cause people.
Dave Kanger
If banana is BaNa2.............what's K9P?
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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:08:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: George Noe <gnoe39@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Opps !!!!!
Sorry,"Fox" (Dave) blame the "sory" on my keyboard
some times it doubles, sometimes it will miss a
letter.The "opps" on my typing finger (I only use one
at a time)
K9P, Now let us see!!!! I know, lets ask a tree.
- --- ThisOldFox@aol.com wrote:
> >Sory, misspelled Banana
>
> You ain't too good at "sorry" or "oops" either.
> If ya drink, don't type. <G>
> Also, if ya drink, don't park.........accidents
> cause people.
>
> Dave Kanger
> If banana is BaNa2.............what's K9P?
>
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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:20:44 -0700
From: "Alfred E. Holland, Jr." <aholland@unm.edu>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Rope for tents.
Manila rope is made from the fiber of a plant that looks a whole lot
like an agave. The fiber is short, brittle, coarse, and cheap. Hemp
rope is made from hemp, Cannabis sp. The fiber is long, supple,
strong, thus a far superior material, and was and is priced
accordingly. You probably ought to rig your tent with manila unless
you're portraying a very rich dude.
Al Holland
At 1:18 PM -0400 4/17/01, 'bella wrote:
>manilla as in hemp? ::smiles::
>
>Chance Tiffie wrote:
>
> > According to trade list inventories, coils of manilla rope went to the
> > Rockies.
> >
> > Cliff Tiffie
> > PO Box 5089
> > Durant, OK
> > 74702
> > 580-924-4187
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> >
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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:56:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Chris Sega <chrissega1@yahoo.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: Rope: Buffalo hair horsehair
Just thought I might spark some discussion. In Terry
Johnstons books, he often mentions Buffalo hair ropes.
My thought on this is, why would Native Americans
manufacture rope from Buffalo Hair? In my opinion,
Horsehair would be a better bet, as it is longer,
easily procured and has a long history of use.
Buffalo hair on the other hand is shorter, and what
would they have used? The hair or undercoat? I know
the undercoat could be used to make cordage and then
be made in to rope, but I don't know what is easier,
hitchin hair or hand producing cord. I have made
cordage from nettle yucca etc, but I haven't hitched
hair, although I am familiar with the method. For
that matter why not rawhide ropes? Just some
thoughts, what do you guys think. I'm gonna dive into
the archives and see what I can find.
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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:39:27 EDT
From: SWzypher@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Rope: Buffalo hair horsehair
In a message dated 4/17/1 12:57:32 PM, chrissega1@yahoo.com writes:
<<why would Native Americans
manufacture rope from Buffalo Hair? In my opinion,
Horsehair would be a better bet>>
That abundant wooly stuff that lies on tatanka's head, shoulders and front
quarters is not short, it responds to a cordage twist very well, and it is
super abundant on even one animal. On the other hand, to make a rope of
horsehair you have to accept the resulting "very funny-looking horse" or a
dead one - in fact several - to get enough material to make a rope.
Horsehair, being slick, does not twist up well, but has to be braided, or
plaited. Tatanka's hair is more suited for "felting" so it can be twisted
"cordage style" and become a single, long unit.
RJames
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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:52:21 EDT
From: ThisOldFox@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Rope: Buffalo hair horsehair
> That abundant wooly stuff that lies on tatanka's head, shoulders and front
> quarters is not short, it responds to a cordage twist very well, and it is
> super abundant on even one animal.
> Tatanka's hair is more suited for "felting" so it can be twisted
> "cordage style" and become a single, long unit.
I tried some time back to get someone to send me a couple of gunny sacksful
of spring-shed winter coat, so that I could have it spun into buffalo wool
yarn. Them that had it said it was very plentiful, except it wasn't worth
the trouble to remove the impacted dirt and manure to get it clean enough to
use.
Anybody think different, or had any luck spinning it into yarn?
Dave Kanger
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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:50:19 -0400
From: Linda Holley <tipis@mediaone.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Rope: Buffalo hair horsehair
I have seen it twisted, spun and braided into string, rope and weaving yarn. It
does take a great deal of time. Maybe that's why we see lots of leather rope in
Native work.
Linda Holley
ThisOldFox@aol.com wrote:
> > That abundant wooly stuff that lies on tatanka's head, shoulders and front
> > quarters is not short, it responds to a cordage twist very well, and it is
> > super abundant on even one animal.
> > Tatanka's hair is more suited for "felting" so it can be twisted
> > "cordage style" and become a single, long unit.
>
> I tried some time back to get someone to send me a couple of gunny sacksful
> of spring-shed winter coat, so that I could have it spun into buffalo wool
> yarn. Them that had it said it was very plentiful, except it wasn't worth
> the trouble to remove the impacted dirt and manure to get it clean enough to
> use.
>
> Anybody think different, or had any luck spinning it into yarn?
>
> Dave Kanger
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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:28:19 -0400
From: "'bella" <smprice1@bellatlantic.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Rope for tents.
thank. you finally someone caught my jest...
and my point.
speaking of tent rope.. if you can get someone to make your 'eyes' by back
weaving the ends
into themselves, this seems, at least in my experience to last longer..
as does using knots to make your 'slide' rather than 'dog-bones'
your mileage may vary
'bella
> Manila rope is made from the fiber of a plant that looks a whole lot
> like an agave. The fiber is short, brittle, coarse, and cheap. Hemp
> rope is made from hemp, Cannabis sp. The fiber is long, supple,
> strong, thus a far superior material, and was and is priced
> accordingly. You probably ought to rig your tent with manila unless
> you're portraying a very rich dude.
>
> Al Holland
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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:54:14 -0400
From: "'bella" <smprice1@bellatlantic.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Rope: Buffalo hair horsehair
ever card wool? or make yarn from it?
perhaps they used a variation of that method?
wool yarn can be quite strong. I use it to tie all sorts of things
after I braid three strands together.
discovered by accident.. made a hackamore one afternoon in
desperation out of it.. worked nice.. would not care to try the
experiment again, but it worked.
a.
> Just thought I might spark some discussion. In Terry
> Johnstons books, he often mentions Buffalo hair ropes.
> My thought on this is, why would Native Americans
> manufacture rope from Buffalo Hair? In my opinion,
> Horsehair would be a better bet, as it is longer,
> easily procured and has a long history of use.
> Buffalo hair on the other hand is shorter, and what
> would they have used? The hair or undercoat? I know
> the undercoat could be used to make cordage and then
> be made in to rope, but I don't know what is easier,
> hitchin hair or hand producing cord. I have made
> cordage from nettle yucca etc, but I haven't hitched
> hair, although I am familiar with the method. For
> that matter why not rawhide ropes? Just some
> thoughts, what do you guys think. I'm gonna dive into
> the archives and see what I can find.
>
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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:48:05 -0500
From: "jdearing" <jdearing@brick.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Opps !!!!!
> >Sory, misspelled Banana
>
> You ain't too good at "sorry" or "oops" either.
> If ya drink, don't type. <G>
> Also, if ya drink, don't park.........accidents cause people.
>
Are you trying to say he needs a designated typist?
J.D.
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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:51:54 -0400
From: Manbear <manbear@netonecom.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Opps !!!!!
TOF,
I worked with the dogs in Viet Nam and I KNOW what K9P is.
Manbear
ThisOldFox@aol.com wrote:
> >Sory, misspelled Banana
>
> You ain't too good at "sorry" or "oops" either.
> If ya drink, don't type. <G>
> Also, if ya drink, don't park.........accidents cause people.
>
> Dave Kanger
> If banana is BaNa2.............what's K9P?
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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:00:17 -0400
From: "Possum Hunter" <icurapossum_hunter2@yahoo.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: North Star West Flintlock Trade Guns
Has anybody ever got a gun from North Star West http://www.northstarwest.com
? What is the quality like? How was the customer service? I am thinking
about getting one of their 24Ga Trade Guns.
Possum
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Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 00:00:34 EDT
From: SWzypher@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Rope: Buffalo hair horsehair
In a message dated 4/17/1 01:53:23 PM, ThisOldFox@aol.com writes:
<<except it wasn't worth
the trouble to remove the impacted dirt and manure to get it clean enough to
use.
>>
guess its all in how you were raised.
RJames
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Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 00:16:24 -0400
From: "John Hunt" <jhunt1@one.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: North Star West Flintlock Trade Guns
Possum, I never bought a gun from them. They done some lock work on my Curly
gun. They were very prompt, (deer season coming soon). They done a good job
at a more than fair price. The lock has been working great since they
repaired it. Bout 4-5 yrs.
John (BIG JOHN) Hunt
longhunter
mountainman
Southwest, Ohio
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To: <scalpdance@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 11:00 PM
Subject: MtMan-List: North Star West Flintlock Trade Guns
> Has anybody ever got a gun from North Star West
http://www.northstarwest.com
> ? What is the quality like? How was the customer service? I am thinking
> about getting one of their 24Ga Trade Guns.
>
> Possum
>
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Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:15:27 -0500
From: "Lanney Ratcliff" <amm1585@hyperusa.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: Fw: (no subject)
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forward it to her.
Lanney
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From: Wind1838@aol.com=20
To: amm1585@hyperusa.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 10:30 PM
Subject: (no subject)
My dear Lanney=20
Thank you for being here for me =20
Your efforts to keep me in contact with people I know and have never =
even met=20
well, I can't even describe what I am feeling now besides overwhelmed. =
=20
I will be brief. They confirmed today the tumor was malignant. They hope =
and=20
expect that they surgically removed it all. This type tumor is =
classified as=20
the highest grade malignant "type" available. But the good news is that =
I=20
came through the surgery in an amazing fashion. I was out of the =
hospital in=20
three days. Spent Easter in the south eating bacon, grits, hot sauce, =
believe=20
me this episode hasn't affected my southern appetite.=20
I refuse to talk about life span. Today was an amazing day full of =
azaleas,=20
dogwood, charming elegant southern ladies with silver hair (and that =
wouldn't=20
be me because I don't have hair -- look like the Blackfeet raised my =
hair_,=20
and sunshine. =20
This is very difficult for my family. Today was Sayward's 17th birthday. =
=20
That was a hard one. I am on antiseisure medication and I can't drive. =
=20
Think I can eventually hitch a ride across the "divide" with one of you =
AMM=20
guys?=20
I want you to know that I am well. I am very well. I will be treated =
by the=20
top physicians in the nation. There is a very aggressive therapy =
available=20
here, only here at Duke. We are trying to get me into a halfway house=20
tomorrow so it isn't so expensive. The teachers in my school district =
have=20
donated their sick leave so I won't miss my paycheck. That is a great =
relief=20
to me knowing that my family won't be going without now. Actually, it's =
difficult to begin to express what I am feeling on a minute to minute =
basis. =20
I will be in touch when I move locations. I will be here at Duke at =
least=20
two more weeks. They are going to do a procedure in two days similar to =
dialysis where they harvest some of my blood cells before they put me in =
the=20
microwave. I have now become my own science fair project.=20
I have taken an enormous amount of strength from you and Tammy Dayle the =
last=20
couple of weeks. I thank you. I love you. Laura Jean=20
Please keep in touch with my mother: Cdune72@aol.com. It would mean a =
great=20
deal to her. She feels very left out and helpless. =20
LJ=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I heard from Laura Jean. I am forwarding her =
post=20
without comment. I am not sure that she will have regular access =
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your=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Lanney</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
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title=3DWind1838@aol.com>Wind1838@aol.com</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:amm1585@hyperusa.com"=20
title=3Damm1585@hyperusa.com>amm1585@hyperusa.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 17, 2001 10:30 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> (no subject)</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D2>My dear =
Lanney=20
<BR><BR>Thank you for being here for me <BR>Your efforts to keep =
me in=20
contact with people I know and have never even met <BR> well, =
I can't=20
even describe what I am feeling now besides overwhelmed. =
<BR><BR>I will=20
be brief. They confirmed today the tumor was malignant. They hope and =
<BR>expect=20
that they surgically removed it all. This type tumor is classified =
as=20
<BR>the highest grade malignant "type" available. But the good news is =
that I=20
<BR>came through the surgery in an amazing fashion. I was out of the =
hospital in=20
<BR>three days. Spent Easter in the south eating bacon, grits, hot =
sauce,=20
believe <BR>me this episode hasn't affected my southern appetite. =
<BR><BR>I=20
refuse to talk about life span. Today was an amazing day full of =
azaleas,=20
<BR>dogwood, charming elegant southern ladies with silver hair (and that =
wouldn't <BR>be me because I don't have hair -- look like the Blackfeet =
raised=20
my hair_, <BR>and sunshine. <BR><BR>This is very difficult for my =
family.=20
Today was Sayward's 17th birthday. <BR>That was a hard one. =
I am on=20
antiseisure medication and I can't drive. <BR>Think I can =
eventually=20
hitch a ride across the "divide" with one of you AMM <BR>guys? <BR><BR>I =
want=20
you to know that I am well. I am very well. I will be =
treated by the=20
<BR>top physicians in the nation. There is a very aggressive =
therapy=20
available <BR>here, only here at Duke. We are trying to get me =
into a=20
halfway house <BR>tomorrow so it isn't so expensive. The teachers =
in my=20
school district have <BR>donated their sick leave so I won't miss my =
paycheck.=20
That is a great relief <BR>to me knowing that my family won't be =
going=20
without now. Actually, it's <BR>difficult to begin to express what =
I am=20
feeling on a minute to minute basis. <BR><BR>I will be in touch =
when I=20
move locations. I will be here at Duke at least <BR>two more =
weeks.=20
They are going to do a procedure in two days similar to =
<BR>dialysis where=20
they harvest some of my blood cells before they put me in the =
<BR>microwave.=20
I have now become my own science fair project. <BR><BR>I have =
taken an=20
enormous amount of strength from you and Tammy Dayle the last <BR>couple =
of=20
weeks. I thank you. I love you. Laura Jean=20
<BR><BR>Please keep in touch with my mother: Cdune72@aol.com. =
It=20
would mean a great <BR>deal to her. She feels very left out and =
helpless.=20
<BR><BR>LJ</FONT> </FONT></BODY></HTML>
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Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:51:24 -0700
From: "ALAN AVERY" <aavery@telus.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: North Star West Flintlock Trade Guns
Possum Hunter,
I have been shooting a North Star West canoe gun for a couple of years now,
(for the unknowing: a canoe gun is a shorter version of the NW trade gun.)
In my opinion, ol' Iron Jaw, (Bob Rathbun, one of the owners) and co. make
real fine guns. Go for it! You won't be disappointed!
Black Knife
Alan Avery
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From: Possum Hunter <icurapossum_hunter2@yahoo.com>
To: scalpdance@yahoogroups.com <scalpdance@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: hist_text@lists.xmission.com <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Date: April 17, 2001 7:58 PM
Subject: MtMan-List: North Star West Flintlock Trade Guns
>Has anybody ever got a gun from North Star West
http://www.northstarwest.com
>? What is the quality like? How was the customer service? I am thinking
>about getting one of their 24Ga Trade Guns.
>
>Possum
>
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