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hist_text-digest       Friday, February 9 2001       Volume 01 : Number 743



In this issue:

-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Bye all
-áááááá MtMan-List: Re: Coyote problem
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Coyote problem
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: South of the Missouri and North of the Yellowstone
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Off topic Cat & Coyote problem
-áááááá MtMan-List: Harpers Ferry
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Re: Coyote problem
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Re: Coyote problem
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Coyote problem
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: list.......
-áááááá RE: MtMan-List: Bye all
-áááááá MtMan-List: Coyotes (more info)
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Bye all
-áááááá MtMan-List: "ITCH"
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Bye all
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Coyote problem
-áááááá RE: MtMan-List: Bye all
-áááááá MtMan-List: Dick James Utah Relative
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Dick James Utah Relative
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Dick James Utah Relative
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Coyote problem
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Coyote problem

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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 00:00:51 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bye all

Ethan, I for one will be sorry to see you go; you asked good questions and
helped restore some of my faith in youth of today.

If the volume of material is too much for you to wade through, maybe try
changing your subscription to 'digest' form, and then there is only one mail
containing all the posts to download each day, and you can peruse it at your
convenience.

As to the rude e-mails you mentioned, this place is just a slice of life, and
even though some have no common courtesy it will only serve to thicken your
skin for future encounters.

If you do have to go, so be it.  We'll miss you.  Remember to keep your eyes
on the skyline and watch your backtrail.    Barney

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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 07:02:05 -0500
From: "Two Crows" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Re: Coyote problem

Won't say it's not happening because I don't know.  Will say that around
here, we have coyotes by the dozen but almost never see one. The predations
people blame on coyotes are usually done by feral or unrestrained pet dogs.
 I'd rather see the authorities put an end to loose dogs first.  Coyotes
hunt nocturnally and live on rabbits and other small furries.  So what if
they eat a bunch of cats?  Cats on the loose are an environmental plague.

Also, it's very bad luck to kill brother coyote.

My $.02

Two Crows


David Brown & Kristin Poulsen
Wollendael
4419 Gore-Subligna Rd.
Summerville, GA  30747

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on
 what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."
- --Benjamin Franklin 1759


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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 07:17:37 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Coyote problem

In a message dated 2/6/01 10:40:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< An elusive band of coyotes has taken over the
 Pierce College farm, killing dozens of stray cats >>

Earning their keep for once!!!  Stray cats are as problematic as coyotes!

- -C.Kent

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Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 07:20:08 -0700
From: Angela Gottfred <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: South of the Missouri and North of the Yellowstone

This is the message you get when you subscribe to the list:

"This mailing list is for discussions related to the history of the mountain
men in the 1800-1850 period in the Rocky Mountain West, and in related
living history activities."

So what's your beef, Walt?

Your humble & obedient servant,
Angela Gottfred


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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 09:40:59 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Off topic Cat & Coyote problem

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In a message dated 2/6/01 11:44:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:



> Who'd have
> though a coyote problem this far north!!
>



We have packs of them up here in NW New York.  I had some go after my wifes
sheep a year ago.  And that was in the middle of the day.  I have also run
into packs when I was deer hunting so at least up here they are not totally
night hunters.

As to the killing of cats, well the Dept of Environmental Conservation warns
folks around here that it is not just coons and fox that are rabid, wild cats
are now carriers and kids are more likely to try to pet a cat then a fox so
they may be more of a danger to humans.

Y.M.O.S.

C.T. Oakes

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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2>In a message dated 2/6/01 11:44:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,
<BR>[e-mail] writes:
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Who'd have
<BR>though a coyote problem this far north!!
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<BR>
<BR>
<BR>We have packs of them up here in NW New York.  I had some go after my wifes
<BR>sheep a year ago.  And that was in the middle of the day.  I have also run
<BR>into packs when I was deer hunting so at least up here they are not totally
<BR>night hunters.
<BR>
<BR>As to the killing of cats, well the Dept of Environmental Conservation warns
<BR>folks around here that it is not just coons and fox that are rabid, wild cats
<BR>are now carriers and kids are more likely to try to pet a cat then a fox so
<BR>they may be more of a danger to humans.
<BR>
<BR>Y.M.O.S.
<BR>
<BR>C.T. Oakes</FONT></HTML>

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Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 08:11:13 -0700
From: "Ole B. Jensen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Harpers Ferry

Gentelmen,
Just purchased one for a freind made by Glen Jones, beautiful gun. paid
1400.00.
Have a question, I need a rifle re boared and rifeled to a larger caliber,
does anyone know who does that? it's an 1886 Winchester
YMOS
Ole # 718

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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:55:08 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Coyote problem

In a message dated 2/7/1 04:55:21 AM, [e-mail] writes:

<<Also, it's very bad luck to kill brother coyote. >>

Glad to hear that one.  We had one for a pet.  Really loved that little
animal.

RJ

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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 15:08:33 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Coyote problem

Living in the hills in West Los Angeles, a VERY populated area surrounded by
undeveloped canyons, and not too terribly far from where Pierce College is
located, we have mule deer, raccoons, red foxes and coyotes in our yard
almost every night, and sometimes the coyote stragglers will be out in the
morning as late as 9 or so.  It's a good thing we don't let our cats out;
seen too many of them in the mouths of coyotes running down the street, and
most of the cats aren't wild, but family pets that have been snatched.  Oh
well, the coyotes were definitely here first, and so they'll stay. Just
thought I'd throw this out in response to those that think just because they
don't see these critters often they aren't there...       Barney

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Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 21:15:39
From: "wayne anderson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Coyote problem

I believe coyote are protected in Calif. and shooting one gets you a major
fine! At least that's what my son says about to ones that are continually
raiding at his house.
.02
Wayne


not just let the Police sniper team come for practice? or...Better yet,
>a good old fashioned black powder coyote shoot! That would be FUN :-)
>
>Possum

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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 16:49:29 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: list.......

In a message dated 2/5/01 12:57:46 PM Pacific Standard Time, [e-mail]
writes:

<< -----(stuff deleted)----A lot of time and space is  wasted with what
should be "chat room" activity.  Too deep for me, but can anyone initiate
such as suggested? >>


  We already do this.

IRC Server   "irc.chatcircuit.com"
on port 6667
Channel #fur_traders
Sunday and Tuesday evenings 8:00 p.m. till ?

Longshot

"Longshot's Rendezvous Homepage"
(Newly Redesigned)
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Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 19:22:25 -0600
From: Todd <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Bye all

Sorry to see you leave Ethan.   I know what you mean about lots of =
posts.  I'm on 4 other lists, and I was downloading about 80 messages a =
night.   I switched a couple of the to digest mode, and it made a HUGE =
difference.

As far as rude emails go, I'm sorry to hear that.   Lots of folks will =
say stuff over email they wouldn't say to your face, although, that's =
not always true.   Some folks are just gonna be that way.    So, you =
shrug, consider the source, and go on.

Take care.

Watch yer topknot.

Todd/MO


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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 23:53:45 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail] (Jon Marinetti)
Subject: MtMan-List: Coyotes (more info)

Coyotes move into Westland - 5/3/99
Address:http://detnews.com/1999/wayne/9905/03/05030062.htm

In 43 years here since moving out of Detroit in '57, haven't seen any
'yotes yet.  have seen a few ground hogs (woodchucks?), a few possum,
and a group of three BIG racoons.  the horse almost stepped on a well
concealed fawn once, saw the mother doe a few times.   haven't seen a
buck in the field yet, but have observed the evidence of their activity
(tree rubs, ground scrapes).

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
from Michigan
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 08:33:30 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bye all

In a message dated 2/7/2001 8:23:08 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< As far as rude emails go, I'm sorry to hear that.   Lots of folks will say
stuff over email they wouldn't say to your face, although, that's not always
true.   Some folks are just gonna be that way.    So, you shrug, consider the
source, and go on.
  >>

This is true. So, does one's true nature come out in e-mails or are they just
more agressive with no chance of retribution (physical)? Both?

Greg

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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 06:57:52 -0800 (PST)
From: George Noe <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: "ITCH"


Taken from Websters 1913 Dictionary



  Itch insect (Zo÷l.), a small parasitic mite
(Sarcoptes scabei) which burrows and breeds beneath
the human skin, thus causing the disease known as the
itch. See Illust. in Append. ù  Itch mite . (Zo÷l.)
Same as Itch insect, above. Also, other similar mites
affecting the lower animals, as the horse and ox. ù

=====
George R. Noe< [e-mail] >
Watch your back trail, and keep your eyes on the skyline.

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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 12:15:14 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bye all

In a message dated 2/8/01 5:34:23 AM Pacific Standard Time, [e-mail]
writes:

<< So, does one's true nature come out in e-mails or are they just
 more agressive with no chance of retribution (physical)? Both? >>

D) All of the above <G>, same as in a car.....

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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 23:50:08 -0700
From: Joe Brandl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Coyote problem

Sorry to butt in, but the list has really became a chat line. Please
limit some of the chatter. Know it is not difficult to delete, but
30-40 messages that don't have much to do with history is a bit much.

thank you
joe
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Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 18:06:20 -0600
From: Todd <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Bye all

=3D)

 I agree.   'Course, it's entirely possible, at least I hope so, that =
I'm going to meet some of the folks on this list, so bein'a complete =
pratt might have some longterm re-percussions.

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> [e-mail]
> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 11:15 AM
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bye all
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 19:12:41 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: MtMan-List: Dick James Utah Relative

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Dick,

Would you email me at [e-mail].  Had to restore the hardrive =
today due to a virus and lost everything.

Talk to you soon,

Frank

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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 20:37:28 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Dick James Utah Relative

got cut off in the middle of a message to you.  Wanted to tell you of several
very cordial letters from Dane (Martin) - one of four that run that "Chips"
bunch.  Anyway I got the tape ordered and poked around and found I already
had the book.. . . . bought it three years ago in Boise and then very
cleverly hid it from myself.  Never really looked at it before but I could
see right off where some of my mistakes originated.  I tried to preserve the
little sharp edges and pressure flake them so I ended up knocking them off
and ending up with a fat body.   I didn't know about building platforms or
percussion flaking and "stuff".  The book I had was by Lester Griswold from
the 1920s.  Loved the book but didn't learn the real stuff.   It was a case
of something is better than nothing.

    Don't know why I am carrying on about knapping.  It is BLOODY COLD here
and I'm not going out to play in the rocks - let alone going on safari to
central Utah to looke for raw materials.  Gotta tell you if I ever get so I
can make the point I want, the style will be very similar to the one you sent
me.

    Carol says "Bean Time"  (actually bean sprout as we are having Chinese)

Cheers
Dick

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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 21:03:58 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Dick James Utah Relative

Sorry, folks.  I accidentaly put a part of a personal message on the
hist_text screen.  Appologyzing for the clutter.
Dick James

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Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 22:49:38 -0500
From: "Fred A. Miller" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Coyote problem

Addison Miller wrote:
>
> My son works on a farm here in Alderson, WV, and they killed a Coyote the
> other day taht was going after some of the new born lambs... Who'd have
> though a coyote problem this far north!!

You should see the damage they do "this far north," like NOT having any
pheasants, killing fawns in the spring, etc., etc.

Fred

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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 09:58:10 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Coyote problem

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Coyotes are found from coast to coast and as far north as Canada

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