>When......exactly....... does it get "hot" at your house?
>YMOS
>Lanney Ratcliff
>Texas
Well, it gets pretty hot around here when I draped a drying hide over my
wife's chair. That woman has no sense of humor..........
Other than that it's occasionally hot in the July, when it doesn't snow!!!
Allen
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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 12:47:43 -0600
From: Allen Hall <allenhall@srv.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Tannin' Time
At 08:41 AM 04/12/2000 -0600, you wrote:
>Gee guys, I use a 54 inch setting out machine powered by a 30 hp
>motor to stretch hides. Dave Bethke in American Falls loves to
>stretch his hides on this baby. Sure gets the job done
>
>Joe
Sure Joe, rub it in!
I'll have to go see Dave's stretching machine. One of Crazy's friends on
the Fort Hall reservation has a secret stretching machine, but he won't show
anyone.
Allen
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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 15:11:23 -0500
From: Glenn Darilek <llsi@texas.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: Re: Grinding Coffee
No need to speculate on at least one way coffee was ground. In "A Tour on the Prairies" by Washington Irving, 1835 (Dean Rudy's web site has a link to the Naked World's free online version) Irving says in various places:
"Indeed our coffee, which, as long as it held out, had been served up with every meal, according to the custom of the West, was by no means a beverage to boast of. It was roasted in a frying-pan. without much care, pounded in a leathern bag, with a
round stone, and boiled in our prime and almost only kitchen utensil, the camp kettle, in "branch" or brook water; which, on the prairies, is deeply colored by the soil, of which it always holds abundant particles in a state of solution and
suspension."
"We gave them food, and, what they most relished, coffee; for the Indians partake in the universal fondness for this beverage, which pervades the West. "
"With all this, our beverage was coffee, boiled in a camp kettle, sweetened with brown sugar, and drunk out of tin cups: and such was the style of our banqueting throughout this expedition, whenever provisions were plenty, and as long as flour and
coffee and sugar held out."
Glenn Darilek
Iron Burner
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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 14:30:57 -0600
From: Joe Brandl <jbrandl@wyoming.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Tannin' Time
The friend of Crazy's is Hilbert Fisher, he bought a stakeing machine
from an guy after coming to my tannery and testing hides on mine. It
does work well, He did give me a line of sh-t about how we would go
into business in brain tanning and all the money, when in reality he
pumped for information. If he would of just asked me, I would of
gladly assisted him. I have another setting out machine for sale and
once in a while come across a staking machine. They really stretch
the hides and do a great job on the edges. Anyone is welcome to come
to our tannery for a tour and if you want to stretch some hides,
great, I will show you the machine and let you try it.
Joe
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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 16:46:45 -0400
From: "D Miles" <deforge1@bright.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Tannin' Time
> Joe Wrote:
"I will show you the machine and let you try it."
And anyone that wants try out a hand rasp to shape a hawk handle or finish
file a blade, c'mon by my shop when Joe is done with you and I will gladly
let you..<BG> Shades of Tom Sawyer, Joe?<G>
Seriously though, I have been fascinated at the "fleshing Machine" a local
taxidermist has.,. THAT is neat...
D
"Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e"
DOUBLE EDGE FORGE
Period Knives & Iron Accoutrements
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"Knowing how is just the beginning"
,
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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 17:28:30 EDT
From: SWcushing@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Grinding Coffee
<<<<It was roasted in a frying-pan. without much care, pounded in a
leathern bag, with a
round stone, and boiled in our prime and almost only kitchen utensil, the
camp kettle, in "branch" or brook water;>>>>
Nice work Iron Burner.... That is the only reference I've ever seen/read about on how the coffee was "ground"... Seemed like a kinda dumb question when I posted it...I figured they must have just smashed the beans between some rocks and scraped up the pieces. At about $14 a lb for Starbucks, there had to be a better way....
Ymos,
Steve
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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 17:35:57 -0500
From: "Henry B. Crawford" <mxhbc@TTACS.TTU.EDU>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: tannin' time (was Unreal -- Forgotten Facts)
Friends, I wasn't sure whether to ignore this one or dismiss it as an urban
myth. All I can say for now is "who cares?". Let's just call it an off
topic urban myth, and get on with what's really important.
Nice post on hide tannin. The PVC pipe is a great idea. I use a
cottonwood log that has seen better days. Better replace it soon with
something a bit smoother, or all my skins will end up with odd looking
holes.
By the way, I had a great little rondy last weekend with about 30 pards
near Big Spring, TX. Shooting was great. The comradeship was even better
that's what it's all about. The "mountain magic" made the rounds, too.
Folks, it's all about sharing the shinin' times. WAUGH!!!!!
Cheers,
HBC
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Museum of Texas Tech University
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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 18:11:00 -0600
From: tetontodd@juno.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Tannin' Time
Allen,
I've used a number of scrappers to wet scrape, but by far and away the
best one I've used is the planer blade which can be purchased at
braintan.com for about $10.00
As a stretcher and breaker, I buried a piece of 2" steel pipe in the
ground leaving about 3 feet sticking straight up. Then I drop one of
those half round lawn edgers in handle down and go to work. It doesn't
have to sharp of an edge cause I still use it on the lawn from time to
time.
A cable secured to a tree is a great stretcher and breaker also.
"Teton" Todd D. Glover
Poison River Party Pilgrim
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Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 07:46:39 -0500
From: "J. Fluhmann" <jfluhman@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: tannin' time (was Unreal -- Forgotten Facts)
Greetings all.... I have been lurking in the shadows and learning a lot here
for some time. I am also one of the 30 that was fortunate enough to share a
campfire with our friend Henry at the rendezvous near Big Spring. I've never
met a finer or more knowledgeable person in my life. Henry my friend, I
hope to share another campfire with ya soon. I'll bring another bottle
I have a like list, and after contacting several of the known owners have found that many of those great guns have left home and their where abouts are unknown. One of Charley's boys said they knew I'd keep my three, but wondered where they would go when I went under - a nice way of dropping a hint to leave them to the musuem.
Later
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Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 08:43:55 -0600
From: Joe Brandl <jbrandl@wyoming.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Tannin' Time
We have tanned many different hides from all over the world. You will
always find that some hides tan easily and break soft, while others
just don't. Each animal has a slightly different chemical makeup.
Each tanner, wheather brain tanning or commercial tanning will find
this out if he/she tans lots of hides. You have to adapt to each
hide. It is frustrating at times and some folks just don't understand
why THEIR hide isn't as nice as others they have seen.
Joe
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Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 08:48:42 -0600
From: Joe Brandl <jbrandl@wyoming.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: mushrooms
Jim Lindberg
I don't know your personal email address. Many many thanks for the
mushrooms and how to pages. I charred some of them and they are
great. I will be sharing them with my scouts. Please let me know if I
can respond in kind. Maybe some tanning.
Joe
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Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 09:21:30 -0600
From: Joe Brandl <jbrandl@wyoming.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Advice for a beginner.
Bill,
I can send you a sample of latigo I have to see if it will work.
I like the book, just found the (for your information paper) on the
prices, so disregard the last note. Send us 10 books, and these
pamplets
Slouch Hat 2
Trousers 5
Moccasins 5
Starting a Fire 5
Dutch Oven 5
Sharp Knife 5
Gourd Canteen 5
Bucksaw 2
Lazybacks 3
Snowshoes 3
Pommel bags 3
Rawhide 5
Stirrups 3
Tanning 2
Tacks 3
Scrimshaw 2
Let me know how much and I will send a check right away
Many thanks
Joe
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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 22:44:41 -0400
From: hawknest4@juno.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Treasures found!
BUCK and longwalker
darn you have and have found a treasure is there any chance in you
xeroxing the notebook and shooting me a copy ---would be more than
willing to pay just to have the information in my reference
library---charley sure knew his stuff and i really enjoyed talking to him
and the knowledge he had stored between his ears---was always free to
share his experiences and research---know he is up ther cataloging and
researching and preserving for the big maker---
contact me offline to make arangements
"HAWK"
Michael Pierce
854 Glenfield Dr. (Home of "Old Grizz" products) (C)
