ftp.xmission.com

home *** CD-ROM | disk | FTP | other *** search

/ ftp.xmission.com / 2014.06.ftp.xmission.com.tar / ftp.xmission.com / pub / lists / hist_text / archive / v01.n509 < prev next >

Wrap

Internet Message Format | 2000-03-27 | 39KB

From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #509 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Tuesday, March 28 2000 Volume 01 : Number 509 In this issue: -áááááá Re: [Re: MtMan-List: Dogs & mountain lions] -áááááá MtMan-List: Fort Union Muzzle Loaders Association -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: What's all this hello stuff anyway? -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: What's all this hello stuff anyway? -áááááá MtMan-List: Re: Beaver Hats -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: What's all this hello stuff anyway? -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: What's all this hello stuff anyway? -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Red Lodge Rendezvous -áááááá MtMan-List: GOOD BYE, HELLO -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: What's all this hello stuff anyway? -áááááá MtMan-List: OFF TOPIC - GOLIAD -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: GOOD BYE, HELLO -áááááá MtMan-List: Need advice on new gun -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Need advice on new gun -áááááá MtMan-List: apple pie recipes -áááááá MtMan-List: Fw: apple pie -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Re: Beaver Hats -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Apple Pie Recipe -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Apple Pie Recipe -áááááá Re: Re: MtMan-List: Apple Pie Recipe -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Apple Pie Recipe -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Need advice on new gun -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Apple Pie Recipe -áááááá Re: Re: MtMan-List: Apple Pie Recipe -áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Need advice on new gun ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 27 Mar 00 17:38:11 EST From: Concho Smith <conchosmith@netscape.net> Subject: Re: [Re: MtMan-List: Dogs & mountain lions] Buck Conner <buck.conner@uswestmail.net> wrote: This past year where I live now we have seen two lions in our back yard, = acre lots at the edge of the foothills over looking Denver. One was trying to = catch a red fox that was passing through. The more ground that is put into hous= ing areas the more the problem will continue....... - ---------------------------------------------- Hey, I have seen mountain lions the last three trips to Colorado (seems no big= deal out there). Two weeks ago I was returning home one evening and had a half= grown cat run across the country road I live on, got my attention for liv= ing in central Pennsylvania. Talked to several of the old locals and they had= to think a spell to remember when the last time they heard or had seen one, = even checked the local library (newspapers), seems last report was in the 1930= 's for this area, interesting !!! Later, Concho. ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webm= ail.netscape.com. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:47:15 PST From: "Robert Thomson" <hunter1828@hotmail.com> Subject: MtMan-List: Fort Union Muzzle Loaders Association Salutations, The Fort Union Muzzle Loaders Association now has a web site. You can see it at http://www.geocities.com/fumla The site is new and more will be added over the coming weeks. "Thanks to kind Providence, here I am again at good old Fort Union" Charles Larpenteur, 1838 - ---- Robert Thomson AMF Co Fort Union ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 19:35:24 EST From: Wind1838@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: What's all this hello stuff anyway? After Hugh Glass' famous encounter with his grizzly bear he is credited with the following when he approached Fort Kiowa: "Hallo Bill, thought I was gone under didn't you? Hand over my horse and fixens, I aqian't dead by a cussed sight." HUGH GLASS, by Bruce Bradley (Monarch Press, California) has received fine reviews. I didn't realize he was kidnapped by pirates. Should be good reading. Laura Glise Wind1838@aol.com - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 18:40:10 -0600 From: TexasBluBoy <texasbluboy@bigplanet.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: What's all this hello stuff anyway? - --------------CD1973ABC0A59A8EC72E6113 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Laura: I read Hugh Glass about 10 years ago this was one of the best books that I have ever read. Everytime you thought ol Hugh was out of the woods, he was back in trouble again. But, he finally got his gun back, this is the book where I read that they didn't travel with dogs because they may attract attention. Later. Sincerely, Daniel"TexasBluBoy"Kimball - --------------CD1973ABC0A59A8EC72E6113 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <i><font face="Book Antiqua">Laura: I read Hugh Glass about 10 years ago this was one of the best books that I have ever read. Everytime you thought ol Hugh was out of the woods, he was back in trouble again. But, he finally got his gun back, this is the book where I read that they didn't travel with dogs because they may attract attention. Later.</font></i><i><font face="Book Antiqua"></font></i> <p><i><font face="Book Antiqua"> Sincerely,</font></i> <br><i><font face="Book Antiqua"> Daniel"TexasBluBoy"Kimball</font></i></html> - --------------CD1973ABC0A59A8EC72E6113-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 19:48:41 EST From: Wind1838@aol.com Subject: MtMan-List: Re: Beaver Hats I submit the following from "Firearms, Traps & Tools of the Mountain Men" by Carl P. Russell -- (If I had to limit my library to three books they would be Russell's "Journal of a Trapper," Gowans, "Rocky Mountain Rendezvous," and the above. "The beaver pelt as it came from the trader was a rough, greasy skin covered with coarse brown hair under which was the fine rich fur or wool. The first step in hatmaking was to shave both hair and wool from the skin. The bare skin was then sold to a maker of glue, and the wool and hair were separated by a blowing process. Only the wool found use in hatmaking. The soft, loose fur was applied in small quantities to a perforated copper revolving cone within which was a suction device that pulled the fur against the cone. A spray of hot water turned upon the fur-covered cone, together with manipulation of the fur with the hands, started the felting process. Repeatedly fur was added, and the manipulation continued until the felt became rough in texture. Then it was removed as a hood from the cone and placed in a mold where it was worked into the desired shape. While it was still soft and warm, shellac was forced into it from the inside. Fine fur was then applied to the outside of the shaped hat. With the aid of hot water and careful handwork the outer surface was made to appear covered with a growth of fur. The final step in making the dress hat was to give it a high gloss and embellish it with a band and lining. By means of revolving block and the application of brushes, irons, sandpaper, and velvet, a finish as bright as that of silk was obtained. Because of its long, velvety "pile" or fur, the beaver was characterized by an exquisite beauty that never distinguished the silk hat. Respectfully submitted, Laura Glise Wind1838@aol.com - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 19:51:17 EST From: Wind1838@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: What's all this hello stuff anyway? So, how did he get captured by pirates? I hear the bluebonnets are now appearing in Texas. Have I written you before, or just meant to? I put your name in my address book after you introduced yourself to the list and made your comment about the "Dutch Ovens" which I applauded. I have just finished moving and I forget what I have done, what I have left undone, and what I meant to do. Laura Glise Wind1838@aol.com - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 19:01:01 -0600 From: "Ratcliff" <rat@htcomp.net> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: What's all this hello stuff anyway? Webster's 1828 dictionary had the following entries: SOHO, exclam. A word used in calling from a distant place; a sportman's = halloo. HOL'LO, v.i. To call out or exclaim. [See Halloo.] HAL'LOO, v.i. To cry out; to exclaim with a loud voice; to call to by = name, or by the word halloo. Country folks hallooed and hooted after me. HAL'LOO, v.t. To encourage with shouts. Old John hallooes his hounds again. 1. To chase with shouts. 2. To call or shout to. [This verb is regular, and pronounced with the accent on the first = syllable.] HALLOO', an exclamation, used as a call to invite attention. HAL'LOOING, ppr. Crying out; as a noun, a loud outcry. ALLOO', v.t. or i. To incite dogs by a call. [See the correct word, Halloo.] - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: <Wind1838@aol.com> To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 6:35 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: What's all this hello stuff anyway? > After Hugh Glass' famous encounter with his grizzly bear he is = credited with=20 > the following when he approached Fort Kiowa: >=20 > "Hallo Bill, thought I was gone under didn't you? Hand over my horse = and=20 > fixens, I aqian't dead by a cussed sight." >=20 > HUGH GLASS, by Bruce Bradley (Monarch Press, California) has received = fine=20 > reviews. I didn't realize he was kidnapped by pirates. Should be = good=20 > reading. >=20 > Laura Glise > Wind1838@aol.com >=20 > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: = http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 19:15:21 -0700 From: "Walt Foster" <Wfoster@cw2.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Red Lodge Rendezvous Hi Concho, Yes Jerry is still in Red Lodge. The Red Lodge Mountain Man Rendezvous is going strong. It got so big that we started a Quiet Camp at the mouth of the Clarks Fork of the Yellowstone River near Laurel. From July 19-24. in order to do our skill exchanges without conflicting with the Red Lodge Mountain Man Rendezvous which starts about the 22 of July each year and runs until the first of August or so. If you would like to get in touch with him he is in the phone book. Spring is here. I have the fever bad. Walt Park City, Montana Subject: MtMan-List: Red Lodge Rendezvous Hey Walt, Does Jerry Farenthold still live in Red Lodge, he was at one time really pushing their rendezvous. Haven't seen him for at least 8-10 years, when on a canoe trip - hell of a good man and period cook. Later Concho. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 22:39:44 -0500 (EST) From: JONDMARINETTI@webtv.net (JON MARINETTI) Subject: MtMan-List: GOOD BYE, HELLO no doubt preceded mtman period by many centuries - "GOD Be with YE". could HELLO be a combination of HAIL and HO both used separately in the 1611 KJV Bible as introductory greetings? Hail the camp? Ho the camp? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ from Michigan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 20:40:20 -0700 From: "Walt Foster" <Wfoster@cw2.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: What's all this hello stuff anyway? comment about the "Dutch Ovens" > which I applauded. > Laura Glise > Wind1838@aol.com Hello Laura, I see listed in the 1836 & 1837 Rendezvous supply list Fine Flour. Can you tell me what fine flour is used for? Walt Park City, Montana - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:06:23 -0500 (EST) From: JONDMARINETTI@webtv.net (JON MARINETTI) Subject: MtMan-List: OFF TOPIC - GOLIAD One of the main reasons why ALL Americans should remember what happened on Palm Sunday, March 27th, 1836 are the modern-day offspring of Santa Anna (the Mexican Drug Mafia). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ from Michigan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 22:38:23 -0800 From: bcunningham@gwe.net (Bill Cunningham) Subject: Re: MtMan-List: GOOD BYE, HELLO If anyone has access to an Oxford English Dictionary, it will give the entire and definitive word on any word you want. - -----Original Message----- From: JON MARINETTI <JONDMARINETTI@webtv.net> To: hist_text@xmission.com <hist_text@xmission.com> Date: Monday, March 27, 2000 7:41 PM Subject: MtMan-List: GOOD BYE, HELLO no doubt preceded mtman period by many centuries - "GOD Be with YE". could HELLO be a combination of HAIL and HO both used separately in the 1611 KJV Bible as introductory greetings? Hail the camp? Ho the camp? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ from Michigan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:46:13 -0600 (CST) From: "Susan Gilbert" <sgilbert@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu> Subject: MtMan-List: Need advice on new gun Greetings, My husband just bought a 50 cal. percussion Hawkin from DGW. It arrived with an adjustable rear sight. He is concerned that this is not period and wonders if he should replace it. And if so, with what? Also, we cracked the ramrod and need to replace it. How does one remove the ferrules on the tips so they can be attached to the replacement? The gal we talked to when we ordered them was not sure. thanks for any help you can give us, Sue Gilbert 6 Beaver Camp - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 22:27:38 -0800 From: "Roger Lahti" <rtlahti@email.msn.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Need advice on new gun Sue, I and many experienced ml shooters will council you to remove the adjustable sight and replace it with a fixed open sight. Once it is adjusted to where the gun shoots with it's best load, it need never be messed with again. It will not move either and thus will not change the point of impact at an awkward moment. The ferrules on the ram rod should have been "pinned" with brass or copper wire but were probably just glued on with something like epoxy. Very careful heating of the metal over a candle will usually loosen them regardless of how they were glued. If they have been pinned then you will have to punch the old pin out to pull the ferrule off. Once replaced on a new rod, a small hole should be drilled through ferrule and rod and a pin of that size pushed through and peened into place along with the new glue which can be epoxy or any water proof glue. It is a good idea to pick very straight grain wood, preferably hickory as a ram rod material. It can be soaked in kerosene for a month and then sealed with linseed oil. This will make the rod stronger and more flexible and less likely to break again. Straight grain is the most important though. Some folks like metal rods or fiber glass rods, even synthetic rods but if your husband is concerned with authenticity, wood is the only choice. Good luck and feel free to ask questions. I remain.... YMOS Capt. Lahti' - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 02:15:31 EST From: WSmith4100@aol.com Subject: MtMan-List: apple pie recipes Hello the list, Its been awhile since I last chimed in so I figured I'd better come out of hibernation. Just got done watching a video done by a gent named Mark Baker. It was an instructional/informational video on the eastern long hunter circa 1760-1780-ish. If you havent seen these tapes, they are worth your time. he is a history professor and has done incredible amounts of research. any ways enough of the commercials..... the reason I'm writing is that my buddy mentioned that he wanted to make some "Apple Pie" but couldn't find a recipe. I remember many moons ago I saw several recipes come across the list. could you "chefs" run those recipes again? Thanks in advance for your help. Wade "Sleeps Loudly" Smith Meridian, ID - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 06:11:57 -0600 From: "Ratcliff" <rat@htcomp.net> Subject: MtMan-List: Fw: apple pie This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01BF987C.8564B6C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is a tasty recipe that figures out to be about 7% alcohol, so it is = OK to drink by the mug full. Some recipes include everclear & such, and = have LOTS more alcohol and will get you plenty drunk before you know it. = Crevat Emptor Apple Pie Half Gallon 1/2 gallon unfiltered apple cider or apple juice 1 cup 80 proof vodka 1/2 cup brandy or spiced rum 1 large or 2 small cinnamon sticks 10 whole cloves Drink 1&1/2 cups apple juice. Add all other ingredients to remaining juice and refrigerate one week = minimum. Longer is better. Weeks are good. Serve chilled or warmed as a toddy For one gallon double all ingredients. For Five gallons: 4 gallons cider or apple juice 2 &1/2 litres vodka 1 litre brandy or rum 10 large or 20 small cinnamon sticks 100 whole cloves To speed the ageing process put the spices in a sauce pan with some of = the apple juice. Raise to a boil and simmer 30 minutes. Mix with = remaining ingredients. - ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01BF987C.8564B6C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2014.210" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"> </DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=3D3>This is a tasty recipe=20 that figures out to be about 7% alcohol, so it is OK to drink by = the mug=20 full. Some recipes include everclear & such, and have LOTS = more=20 alcohol and will get you plenty drunk before you know it. Crevat=20 Emptor</FONT></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3>Apple Pie</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3>Half Gallon</FONT></DIV> <DIV>1/2 gallon unfiltered apple cider or apple juice</DIV> <DIV>1 cup 80 proof vodka</DIV> <DIV>1/2 cup brandy or spiced rum</DIV> <DIV>1 large or 2 small cinnamon sticks</DIV> <DIV>10 whole cloves</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Drink 1&1/2 cups apple juice.</DIV> <DIV>Add all other ingredients to remaining juice and refrigerate = one week=20 minimum. Longer is better. Weeks are good.</DIV> <DIV>Serve chilled or warmed as a toddy</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>For one gallon<FONT size=3D3> double all ingredients.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>For Five gallons:</DIV> <DIV>4 gallons cider or apple juice</DIV> <DIV>2 &1/2 litres vodka</DIV> <DIV>1 litre brandy or rum</DIV> <DIV>10 large or 20 small cinnamon sticks</DIV> <DIV>100 whole cloves</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>To speed the ageing process put the spices in a sauce pan with some = of the=20 apple juice. Raise to a boil and simmer 30 minutes. Mix with = remaining ingredients.</DIV></BODY></HTML> - ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01BF987C.8564B6C0-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 07:15:49 -0600 From: "northwoods" <northwoods@ez-net.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Beaver Hats - -----Original Message----- From: Wind1838@aol.com <Wind1838@aol.com> To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com <hist_text@lists.xmission.com> Date: March 27, 2000 6:49 PM Subject: MtMan-List: Re: Beaver Hats I wonder at what time period, and where the method he describes in FT&T of hat making was used? The method I described which was quite different, I believe would have been used in colonial America, mid 18th century or thereabouts. northwoods - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 07:32:58 -0600 (CST) From: "Susan Gilbert" <sgilbert@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Apple Pie Recipe Morning, Here is the original post, just as I saved it. It's a good recipe, I've made it in apple and cherry. Both were very popular at our Christmas gathering. Sue Gilbert 6 Beaver Camp ========================================================= >Klahowya Tillicum, > >This recipe came to me from Barefoot Woman, Crazy George Passon's wife >(bourgeois of the Department of the Columbia party): > >1 gallon Apple Cider >1 Cup Brown Sugar >1 Cup Honey >5 Cinnamon Sticks >7 Whole Cloves >Juice of 1/2 lemon > >Simmer all for 45 minutes. Will reduce slightly. > >Strain out spices. > >Let cool to room temperature. > >Add 1 fifth Everclear. > >The longer it sets, the smoother it gets. Don't never go bad. > >Now, I've done this with high-proof rum and vodka, when Everclear not >available. Also real good. And I've done it with cherry, pear, and >peach juice, as well. I don't recommend the cherry, tasted like cough >syrup to me, but it went over real well at camp. I like to add Allspice >to mine, since I'm partial to it. > >Good luck and have fun! :-) > >YMDS, >-Tassee > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 08:35:40 -0500 From: "D Miles" <deforge1@bright.net> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Apple Pie Recipe I can't help myself... SOrry... Simple Apple Pie. Suck on a apple sour ball while drinking a kettle of Rum.. AS I said, sorry..<G> D "Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e" DOUBLE EDGE FORGE Period Knives & Iron Accoutrements http://www.bright.net/~deforge1 "Knowing how is just the beginning" - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 08:35:46 -0500 From: ikon@mindspring.com Subject: Re: Re: MtMan-List: Apple Pie Recipe BE WARNED, I made this recipe two years ago and took it to a rendezvous and it was a hit. I then took it to a couple picnics and it was also a hit. I have also taken it to the hunting get to-gethers and ditto it was a hit. NOW I AM NOT ALLOWED IN ANY RENDEZVOUS OR CAMPS UNLESS I BRING MY APPLEPIE. FVR hist_text@lists.xmission.com wrote: > Morning,Here is the original post, just as I saved it. It's a good recipe, I've made it in apple and cherry. Both were very popular at our Christmas gathering. Sue Gilbert 6 Beaver Camp ========================================================= >Klahowya Tillicum, > >This recipe came to me from Barefoot Woman, Crazy George Passon's wife >(bourgeois of the Department of the Columbia party): > >1 gallon Apple Cider >1 Cup Brown Sugar >1 Cup Honey >5 Cinnamon Sticks >7 Whole Cloves >Juice of 1/2 lemon > >Simmer all for 45 minutes. Will reduce slightly. > >Strain out spices. > >Let cool to room temperature. > >Add 1 fifth Everclear. > >The longer it sets, the smoother it gets. Don't never go bad. > >Now, I've done this with high-proof rum and vodka, when Everclear not >available. Also real good. And I've done it with cherry, pear, and >peach juice, as well. I don't recommend the cherry, tasted like cough >syrup to me, but it went over real well at camp. I like to add Allspice >to mine, since I'm partial to it. > >Good luck and have fun! :-) > >YMDS, >-Tassee > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 09:58:02 -0500 From: "Dennis Earp" <96mfg@hspower.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Apple Pie Recipe Sue, Does it need to be kept refrigerated while it's aging, or can it be stored at room temperature? Dennis >Morning, >Here is the original post, just as I saved it. It's a good recipe, I've made it in >apple and cherry. Both were very popular at our Christmas gathering. > >Sue Gilbert >6 Beaver Camp - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 08:11:11 -0800 From: bcunningham@gwe.net (Bill Cunningham) Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Need advice on new gun I have taken a piece of PVC, put a plug in one end and shoved anywhere from 1 to a couple dozen ramrod blanks (straight grain dowels) in there, then filled it with kerosene, put a plug on the top, and let them soak for as long as three months, then removed them and let them dry. They still are not bullet proof, but somewhat improved. It depends on whether you have the time and desire. You can purchase new ends (they don't cost that much) and make up several ramrods at one time. That way, when one breaks (and they will) you have a spare at hand. - -----Original Message----- From: Roger Lahti <rtlahti@email.msn.com> To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com <hist_text@lists.xmission.com> Date: Monday, March 27, 2000 10:22 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Need advice on new gun >Sue, > >I and many experienced ml shooters will council you to remove the adjustable >sight and replace it with a fixed open sight. Once it is adjusted to where >the gun shoots with it's best load, it need never be messed with again. It >will not move either and thus will not change the point of impact at an >awkward moment. > >The ferrules on the ram rod should have been "pinned" with brass or copper >wire but were probably just glued on with something like epoxy. Very careful >heating of the metal over a candle will usually loosen them regardless of >how they were glued. If they have been pinned then you will have to punch >the old pin out to pull the ferrule off. > >Once replaced on a new rod, a small hole should be drilled through ferrule >and rod and a pin of that size pushed through and peened into place along >with the new glue which can be epoxy or any water proof glue. > >It is a good idea to pick very straight grain wood, preferably hickory as a >ram rod material. It can be soaked in kerosene for a month and then sealed >with linseed oil. This will make the rod stronger and more flexible and less >likely to break again. Straight grain is the most important though. Some >folks like metal rods or fiber glass rods, even synthetic rods but if your >husband is concerned with authenticity, wood is the only choice. Good luck >and feel free to ask questions. I remain.... > >YMOS >Capt. Lahti' > > > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 10:12:15 -0600 (CST) From: "Susan Gilbert" <sgilbert@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Apple Pie Recipe Dennis, I put the mixture in a clean crock with one of those rubber ring and wire clamp on lids and stored it on the shelves with the canning stuff in the basement. It is cool down there but not fridge cold, and it was fine. There seems to be enough alcohol to preserve it. Sue Gilbert 6 Beaver Camp - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 11:18:04 -0500 From: ikon@mindspring.com Subject: Re: Re: MtMan-List: Apple Pie Recipe I make two kinds, one with alcohol and one without for the kids. I have found that the mix with alcohol has no problems if kept out of the fridge but the virgin mix must be kept in the ice box or it will mold on top. FVR hist_text@lists.xmission.com wrote: > Dennis, I put the mixture in a clean crock with one of those rubber ring and wire clamp on lids and stored it on the shelves with the canning stuff in the basement. It is cool down there but not fridge cold, and it was fine. There seems to be enough alcohol to preserve it. Sue Gilbert 6 Beaver Camp - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 11:05:02 -0600 From: John Kramer <kramer@kramerize.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Need advice on new gun - --=====================_80612519==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The most critical item in making a new ramrod is to work with splits of=20 wood not sawn wood. By maintaining full length grain through the entire=20 length maximum strength is maintained. If full length grain is used not=20 nearly so many ramrods will need to be made than if you use pre-made dowel= =20 rod from sawn stock. Sharp shards and flakes from knapping musket flints are excellent for=20 scraping and shaping the rough wood. Sandstone can be used for --- guess= what? Though kerosene is the modern substitute for coal oil which was available=20 in the east in small measure, the below is an old method. See my posting a= =20 couple of three Christmases back on the proper uses of linseed oil to avoid= =20 the problems of modern processing. Ferrules can be well mounted with sealing wax along with the cross=20 pinning. Very similar to what used to be called spud cement which can be=20 used similarly. Ramrods, shovel handles, axe handles, walking sticks, and war clubs all=20 will benefit if you bury them in a large pile of horse manure for 6=20 months. Adds considerable flex to the finished work. Be certain the wood= =20 is well seasoned and ready for final sanding and finishing before you bury= =20 it. Then finish it. John... At 08:11 AM 3/28/00 -0800, Bill wrote: >I have taken a piece of PVC, put a plug in one end and shoved anywhere from >1 to a couple dozen ramrod blanks (straight grain dowels) in there, then >filled it with kerosene, put a plug on the top, and let them soak for as >long as three months, then removed them and let them dry. They still are= not >bullet proof, but somewhat improved. It depends on whether you have the= time >and desire. You can purchase new ends (they don't cost that much) and make >up several ramrods at one time. That way, when one breaks (and they will) >you have a spare at hand. >-----Original Message----- >From: Roger Lahti <rtlahti@email.msn.com> >To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com <hist_text@lists.xmission.com> >Date: Monday, March 27, 2000 10:22 PM >Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Need advice on new gun > > > >Sue, > > > >I and many experienced ml shooters will council you to remove the >adjustable > >sight and replace it with a fixed open sight. Once it is adjusted to= where > >the gun shoots with it's best load, it need never be messed with again.= It > >will not move either and thus will not change the point of impact at an > >awkward moment. > > > >The ferrules on the ram rod should have been "pinned" with brass or= copper > >wire but were probably just glued on with something like epoxy. Very >careful > >heating of the metal over a candle will usually loosen them regardless= of > >how they were glued. If they have been pinned then you will have to punch > >the old pin out to pull the ferrule off. > > > >Once replaced on a new rod, a small hole should be drilled through= ferrule > >and rod and a pin of that size pushed through and peened into place along > >with the new glue which can be epoxy or any water proof glue. > > > >It is a good idea to pick very straight grain wood, preferably hickory as= a > >ram rod material. It can be soaked in kerosene for a month and then= sealed > >with linseed oil. This will make the rod stronger and more flexible and >less > >likely to break again. Straight grain is the most important though. Some > >folks like metal rods or fiber glass rods, even synthetic rods but if= your > >husband is concerned with authenticity, wood is the only choice. Good= luck > >and feel free to ask questions. I remain.... > > > >YMOS > >Capt. Lahti John T. Kramer, maker of:=A0 Kramer's Best Antique Improver >>>It makes wood wonderful<<< =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 >>>As good as old!<<< <http://www.kramerize.com/> mail to: <kramer@kramerize.com> - --=====================_80612519==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <font size=3D3>The most critical item in making a new ramrod is to work with splits of wood not sawn wood. By maintaining full length grain through the entire length maximum strength is maintained. If full length grain is used not nearly so many ramrods will need to be made than if you use pre-made dowel rod from sawn stock.<br> <br> Sharp shards and flakes from knapping musket flints are excellent for scraping and shaping the rough wood. Sandstone can be used for --- guess what?<br> <br> Though kerosene is the modern substitute for coal oil which was available in the east in small measure, the below is an old method. See my posting a couple of three Christmases back on the proper uses of linseed oil to avoid the problems of modern processing. <br> <br> Ferrules can be well mounted with sealing wax along with the cross pinning. Very similar to what used to be called spud cement which can be used similarly.<br> <br> Ramrods, shovel handles, axe handles, walking sticks, and war clubs all will benefit if you bury them in a large pile of horse manure for 6 months. Adds considerable flex to the finished work. Be certain the wood is well seasoned and ready for final sanding and finishing before you bury it. Then finish it.<br> <br> John...<br> <br> At 08:11 AM 3/28/00 -0800, Bill wrote:<br> <blockquote type=3Dcite cite>I have taken a piece of PVC, put a plug in one end and shoved anywhere from<br> 1 to a couple dozen ramrod blanks (straight grain dowels) in there, then<br> filled it with kerosene, put a plug on the top, and let them soak for as<br> long as three months, then removed them and let them dry. They still are not<br> bullet proof, but somewhat improved. It depends on whether you have the time<br> and desire. You can purchase new ends (they don't cost that much) and make<br> up several ramrods at one time. That way, when one breaks (and they will)<br> you have a spare at hand.<br> - -----Original Message-----<br> From: Roger Lahti <rtlahti@email.msn.com><br> To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com <hist_text@lists.xmission.com><br> Date: Monday, March 27, 2000 10:22 PM<br> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Need advice on new gun<br> <br> <br> >Sue,<br> ><br> >I and many experienced ml shooters will council you to remove the<br> adjustable<br> >sight and replace it with a fixed open sight. Once it is adjusted to where<br> >the gun shoots with it's best load, it need never be messed with again. It<br> >will not move either and thus will not change the point of impact at an<br> >awkward moment.<br> ><br> >The ferrules on the ram rod should have been "pinned" with brass or copper<br> >wire but were probably just glued on with something like epoxy. Very<br> careful<br> >heating of the metal over a candle will usually loosen them regardless of<br> >how they were glued. If they have been pinned then you will have to punch<br> >the old pin out to pull the ferrule off.<br> ><br> >Once replaced on a new rod, a small hole should be drilled through ferrule<br> >and rod and a pin of that size pushed through and peened into place along<br> >with the new glue which can be epoxy or any water proof glue.<br> ><br> >It is a good idea to pick very straight grain wood, preferably hickory as a<br> >ram rod material. It can be soaked in kerosene for a month and then sealed<br> >with linseed oil. This will make the rod stronger and more flexible and<br> less<br> >likely to break again. Straight grain is the most important though. Some<br> >folks like metal rods or fiber glass rods, even synthetic rods but if your<br> >husband is concerned with authenticity, wood is the only choice. Good luck<br> >and feel free to ask questions. I remain....<br> ><br> >YMOS<br> >Capt. Lahti</font></blockquote><br> <br> <br> <div>John T. Kramer, maker of:=A0</div> <br> <div>Kramer's Best Antique Improver</div> <div>>>>It makes wood wonderful<<<</div> <div>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 >>>As good as old!<<<</div> <br> <div><<a href=3D"http://www.kramerize.com/"= EUDORA=3DAUTOURL>http://www.kramerize.com/</a>></div> <br> <div>mail to: <kramer@kramerize.com> </div> </html> - --=====================_80612519==_.ALT-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ End of hist_text-digest V1 #509 ******************************* - To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message.