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Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 07:34:31 EST
From: Iambrainey@aol.com
Subject: MtMan-List: tongue in cheek
How many people does it take to change a light bulb in
cyberspace?...
1 to successfully change the light bulb and to post to the
mail list that the light bulb has been changed.
14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and
how the light bulb could have been changed differently.
7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs.
27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about
changing light bulbs.
53 to flame the spell checkers.
156 to write to the list administrator complaining about
the light bulb discussion and its inappropriateness to
this mail list.
41 to correct spelling in the spelling/grammar flames.
109 to post that this list is not about light bulbs and
to please take this email exchange to alt.lite.bulb.
203 to demand that cross posting to alt.grammar,
alt.spelling and alt.punctuation about changing light
bulbs be stopped.
111 to defend the posting to this list, saying that,
"We are all using light bulbs and therefore the posts
**are** relevant to this mail list."
306 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is
superior, where to buy the best light bulbs, what brands
of light bulb work best for this technique, and what
brands are faulty.
27 to post URLs where one can see examples of different
light bulbs.
14 to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly and to
post corrected URLs.
3 to post about links they found from the URLs that are
relevant to this list, which makes light bulbs relevant
to this list.
33 to collate all posts to date, then quote them
including all headers and footers, and then add
"Me Too."
12 to post to the list that they are unsubscribing
because they cannot handle the light bulb controversy.
19 to quote the "Me Too's" to say, "Me Three."
4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ.
1 to propose new alt.change.lite.bulb newsgroup.
47 to say that this is just what this list was meant
for, leave it here.
143 votes for a new list alt.lite.bulb.
38 votes proclaiming the advantages in using vintage
light bulbs.
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Date: 28 Jan 2000 06:25:56 -0800
From: Buck Conner <buck.conner@uswestmail.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: first snow
On Thu, 27 January 2000, "Ratcliff" wrote:
> We got a dose of sleet and freezing rain south of Ft Worth....would trade for snow anyday.
> YMOS
> Lanney Ratcliff
>
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Lanney,
Being raised with the Amish - they had an old saying that I'm sure Dennis M. will agree with, being in that country.
"On thee first snow that one may track a duck in, write down thee date. This number will be the number of snow's that one will see tracks for thee winter".
In other words the number of snows that puts down at least 1" or better would be counted; funny thing is we have tried this counting method for many years and come within a snow one way or the other from the written date of the first snow for that season. I can't remember if you count the first snow or not !!
Like the Amish would say in asking and answering in the same sentence. "Pretty good, say not".
Later
Buck Conner
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"meat's not meat until it's in the pan"
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Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 09:53:12 -0600
From: "Matthew Porter" <pmporter@up-link.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: More Snow! :-) (off topic)
Hi again,
We didn't get as much snow the first day as inticipated. Only about
9"-11". It's still snowing though. I'll tell you one thing, Chance Tiffie
is right when he said that a snow like this comes around only about once
every ten years. The last snow like this I remember was in 1988 when I was
5. 13" in one day.
I came from outside where my dad, sister, and I were pushing my dad's
Dodge Dakota(ironic name for a truck that gets caught in the snow) up our
driveway (which is about 100 ft. higher in elevation comparied to that of
our house) while my mom was driving.
People start down here start going all loopy and when they drive, are
attracted to the ditches or other vehicles, like yesterday. My dad was
driving the same Dakota when suddenly the person in the other lane swerved
into my dad's lane a forced him to the ditch where he killed a group of
mailboxes with one hit. No damage to the truck except for that annoying
piece of plastic underneath the front bumper was knocked loose. I don't
understand why they manke anything on vehicles plastice anywhow. Someone
came along and whinched my dad out.
I do know how Lanny Ratcliff feels also. Every year we get about 2"-3"
of sleet and freezing rain. It bends trees over, makes powerlines sang, and
it make all the car body repair men very happy!
I was also able to track a group of cyotes chasing a small deer. That
reminds me. I was trying to pick out a Muntain Man name. I've narrowed it
down to "Rook"(short for rookie and it is also a castle) or "Tatonka"
(Native American for the largest and smartest bull buffalo of the herd).
Tell me what y'all think.
Matt
Porter
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Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 10:59:02 -0500
From: "John Hunt" <jhunt1@one.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: first snow
Matt, I think your really confused about the snow! If memory is correct Ark.
has had massive snow`s for years. Thats where Billy Boy Clinton is from. I`m
still glad your excited and looking forward to another snow, "er snow job".
(VVVBBBGGG) hehehe
John (BIG JOHN) Hunt
Longhunter
Mountainman
southwest Ohio
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From: Matthew Porter <pmporter@up-link.net>
To: <hist_text@xmission.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 12:06 PM
Subject: MtMan-List: first snow
> Hi all!
> I'm just so excited, like a giddy school boy. We are having are first
> snow down here in Arkansas. They say that we should get about a foot by
> tomorrow. I just wanted to share my excitement with you all.
>
> Matt
> Porter
>
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Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 09:21:11 -0800
From: R Lahti <lahtirog@gte.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: More Snow! :-) (off topic)
Matthew Porter wrote:
>
> Hi again,
> I do know how Lanny Ratcliff feels also. Every year we get about 2"-3"
> of sleet and freezing rain. It bends trees over, makes powerlines sang, and
> it make all the car body repair men very happy!
Matthew,
I don't envy you'all your showy winter weather about now. Here in
Eastern WA. we rarely have such a snow but years ago when I was a kid I
remember we had some ice storms like you mention. The climate has
changed enough since that such storms seem to be a thing of the past for
a while anyway.
> I was also able to track a group of cyotes chasing a small deer. That
> reminds me. I was trying to pick out a Muntain Man name. I've narrowed it
> down to "Rook"(short for rookie and it is also a castle) or "Tatonka"
> (Native American for the largest and smartest bull buffalo of the herd).
> Tell me what y'all think.
Did you get any coyotes? BTW, one normally does not pick a "mountain
name" for ones self, but rather it is bestowed one by ones fellows. It
usually is picked for some particular trait or event/happenstance that
the owner suffered under. Just be yourself and someone will hang a name
on you eventually. <G> I remain....
YMOS
Capt. Lahti'
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Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 14:19:46 EST
From: GazeingCyot@cs.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: More Snow! :-)
Hello there by the fire'
Capt'n Lahti is right about the names, as soon as you screw up
royally, a name will be bestowed upon you to remind you always of the
occasion! The best names are given, not chosen fro one's self.
With all the talk about snow, What are your methods of keeping fire
over 10 feet of snow? Paul Kane tells about their party cutting down 6 logs
of green timber 18 to 20 feet long, and laid down close together to form a
platform. " The fire is then kindled on it, and pine branches spread on each
side, on which the party, wrapped in their blankets, lie down with their feet
towards the fire. The parallel logs rarely burn through in one night, but
the dropping coal and heat form a deep chasm immediately under the fire, into
which the logs are prevented from falling by their length." Of course, we
can "t just go cutting down green trees these days.
Dave Tippets showed me a good way for a small camp. He cut two limbs
from a tree and laid them parallel on the snow, then used the lid of a camp
kettle, laid upside down on these limbs, to build a tiny fire, just big
enough to cook a one man meal on.
Crazy dug down 6 feet once, {and only once} to make a large pit with
snow benches around it but that's only practical for a long camp. Then one
could put a canvas over it for a shelter, too. He says that's way too much
work for a short term camp. Its very easy to break a sweat doing that sort
of thing, too, which is a big mistake and much regretted come nightfall.
We've also just built a fire on the snow, and as it melts down, just built a
fire in another spot.
Anyone else have a favorite way?
Jill
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Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:06:16 PST
From: "Tim Nevins" <timnevins@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Camping item of interest
John,
I got one about six months ago and it works just fine.
Tim Nevins
>From: "John McKee" <stitchin@tekhullogy.com>
>Reply-To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
>To: "AMM COMMON LIST" <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
>Subject: MtMan-List: Camping item of interest
>Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 18:37:56 -0600
>
>Hello the camp. Saw reference to Crazy Crow on the list and, by
>coincidence, got their flyer in this afternoon. I don't know the quality
>but they have listed a "iron skillet w/ folding handle. 9" diameter x 1"
>deep, with a 5 1/4 inch long handle. The web site is www.crazycrow.com and
>the item # is 5587-002-009. Quite a handy item to have. Long John
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Date: 29 Jan 2000 12:58:06 -0800
From: Buck Conner <buck.conner@uswestmail.net>
Subject: Re: [Re: MtMan-List: Passing of a friend, list member, etc.]
On Sat, 29 January 2000, Concho Smith wrote:
> deforge1@wesnet.com (Dennis Miles) wrote:
>
> Hell, this news is not what I wanted to wake up to today.
> I sorta figger that My runnin' Partner "Duff" met him at the gates and took him to that valley of beaver that he's been trappin' for a couple of years.
>
> Anything I can do on this end, I will..
> D
> ____________________
>
> Isn't that the truth Dennis, I got called at work Friday afternoon, that the
> boys where in route with their Dad.......
>
> I'll let you know what's happening later. Thanks Dennis for being a good friend to our friend.
>
> Concho.
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Boys,
Just got into Harrisburg PA, will pass your words on to the family, thanks. Still have an hour and a half drive from here when Concho shows, aren't laptops great.
Later
Buck Conner
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"meat's not meat until it's in the pan"
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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 22:04:01 -0800
From: "jdearing" <jdearing@brick.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: More Snow! :-)
> Crazy dug down 6 feet once, {and only once} to make a large pit
with
> snow benches around it but that's only practical for a long camp. Then
one
> could put a canvas over it for a shelter, too. He says that's way too
much
> work for a short term camp. Its very easy to break a sweat doing that
sort
> of thing, too, which is a big mistake and much regretted come nightfall.
> We've also just built a fire on the snow, and as it melts down, just built
a
> fire in another spot.
I have been told by those who have some experience in snow country that
packing down the snow with snow shoes and breaking it up once it is solid
enough to remove in solid pieces is much easier and less time consuming than
digging. The compacted pieces of snow can also be used to build a wind
break.
An alternative to letting the fire melt into the snow would be to cut
several
branches as thick as possible and make a raft several branches thick to
build
the fire on. I suppose new branches can be added under the raft as the fire
burns through the top layers, or maybe use long branches that can be pushed
together under the fire as it burns through.
I don't live in an area that gets much snow, so I don't know how well these
things
will work. Just a coupla thoughts.
J.D.
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Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 20:31:27 -0800 (PST)
From: Ronald Schrotter <mail4dog@yahoo.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: Passing of a Friend
Was Lee the same "turtle" that used to stop at bridger
on his way to nationals? My condolences to all his
family and friends. After seeing his words on the
site many times, his humor will be missed by all.
If he was the brother who used to stop here, I will
miss his visits, and I know he has gone to a better
