On Tue, 21 September 1999, Phyllis and Don Keas wrote:
>
> Ok folks, here is one.
> I was reading about Charles Autobees. He worked out of Ft. Hall and
> bought several items from them that are listed in the company accounts. One
> item that acaoght my eye was: "a lined blanket"...............
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According to the PA Dutch, Amish and "Common" people a "lined Blanket" is just that. A blanket covered with another blanket, not a "dirt cover", double blanket thickness usually held together with yarn ties spaced 4-6" apart. Ones sewn together can be considered "common" quilts, with different patterns and designs you see the "period" quilt.
Buck's out of town and I'm sure he would be answering this one, as he carries a "lined" blanket with his bedding, has done this for at least 25 years or longer. I have used it on occassion in wet weather for extra insulation from damp ground with a bad back.
Take care - we leave as friends,
Lee "Turtle" Boyer
Historical Advisor - Parks & Rec.
State College, Pennsylvania
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Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 07:38:07 -0500
From: "Ratcliff" <rat@htcomp.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: bacon?
Good points. Many duck eggs have a pale green shell and the shells are =
twice as tough as chicken eggs. They taste better and the whites are =
whiter than chicken eggs. You would be surprised at how many people =
raise ducks and they can be a good source of a correct food. There are =
many accounts of trappers robbing duck nests and feasting on eggs. =
Even if cured bacon is too hard to find, many meat markets carry or will =
gladly get unsliced slab bacon. You are right, leave the sliced bacon =
at home.
YMOS
Lanney Ratcliff
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To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 6:55 AM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: bacon?
> On Tue, 21 September 1999, Sabella wrote:
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> >=20
> > hi all, new to the list but not buckskinning... 29 yr. veteran.
> > on this subject of bacon.
> >=20
> > My BF's family came to florida in 1828. I have read the accounts =
and lists of victuals they carried... salt cured bacon, in large =
quantity is among what the menfolk brought.............
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> I think what several are referring to is at events today, sure salted =
bacon was available in the 1700's etc. That's slab salted bacon (like =
small hams, chuncks of meat), and that's not what you are seeing as a =
large view that's showing up at period camps.
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> The regular sliced bacon is what is seen in most camps, only a few =
have slab bacon and fewer are heavy salted. When checking camps for =
correctness (contests, etc.), look in the trash at the plastic wraps =
from sliced bacon. If your going to do it right why not bring it into =
camp "right"???=20
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> Another thing is seeing many with regular eggs, must be a bunch of =
wild birds around laying "white" eggs. The turkey eggs we had on the =
farm where not white, they where light brown or tan in color, as are =
wild turkey eggs found when hunting (tan to a dirty mellow yellow).
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> Much of this is just common sense, do some reading. The more research =
you do on edibles the more items one will find, hell look at Clark & =
Sons Mercantile, Buck did the research and made a business out of it =
telling and supplying us with what is right, and for what area, and =
period. It's all research friends, research, research and more research.
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> Take care - we leave as friends,
> Lee "Turtle" Boyer
> Historical Advisor - Parks & Rec.
> State College, Pennsylvania
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Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 07:31:45 -0600
From: Bill Klesinger <mtmanbk@earthlink.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: bacon? what is right?
If we are to discuss what is right for a RM rendezvous, then we need to actually only take what was available. and that was what was on the trade lists and what was killed or gathered.
Now the mountaineers where not gathers, (their wives yes)
so what is left. Coffee tea, flower, corn meal, raisins, whisky, sugar.
their was no bacon, salted or other, or eggs, (the wild birds had already laid & hatched)
There was meat, MEAT, and meat, with some jerk. what else?
there was no camp chairs, cooking box's, silver ware, tables, (covered coolers) (beer). for the mountaineers.
Now the trader (singular) may have had a few luxuries. but the regular men and indians had what they came to camp with and what he sold them.
That was not much. mostly, powder, lead, trade items, and whisky.
so if you are to do it right throw out 1/2 your junk, put together a camp that can be be loaded on a horse /mule or two. and have fun.
so lets do it right, drink whisky, fight, and go in for open fornication. this is how a lot of the men carried on. (not all).
I am not stating that no bacon ever made it to the mountains, or other special foods, but it was the exception not the rule.
at our modern camps we tend to live by the exception, it could have happened ! so I can get by with it.
see you at the next mountain carnival (rendezvous)
Bill
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Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 08:41:21 -0500
From: "Henry B. Crawford" <mxhbc@TTACS.TTU.EDU>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Way off the list......
>Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 06:14:53 -0000
>From: "Paul Jones" <pwjones@excelonline.com>
>Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Way off the list......
>
>Thanks Linda, but who and where are the Brewers?
>
A National League (formerly American League) professional baseball team
based in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
(Hey, he asked for it!!) A little humor doesn't hurt. It's not all brain
surgery. :-)
Cheers with a smile.
HBC
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Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 08:06:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ronald Schrotter <mail4dog@yahoo.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: camp goods
Years ago our brigade decided that if it wouldn't fit
on a horse, we were packing too much. I have to agree
that most camps were not real luxurious, but it is
possible to carry enough to make it as least
comfortable. Many items can serve double duty, such
as real blankets under the saddle instead of pads,
large tin cups can be used as cookware, and a bedroll
can consist of a shelter half as well as blankets. As
you get more experience you learn what you can do
without and what you really NEED to survive and still
enjoy rendezvous. On the other hand, it sure is nice
to hit a well provisioned camp after several days in
