> Dang Buck, I was hoping you were gonna say you pawned that no shootin sucker
> off on Ole Dennis. [ Just kidding. ] I aim to hook up with Dennis in a
> shootin match this fall, and I'll need all the help I can get. I have seen
> the targets he has shot with that gun. Real impressive.
> Pendleton
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Buck <buck.conner@uswestmail.net>
> To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
> Date: Monday, August 30, 1999 1:34 PM
> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Low Shooter
>
> >On Mon, 30 August 1999, Michael Pierce wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:17:30 -0400 ad.miller@mindspring.com writes:
> >> >IMHO, I think filing a tad off the front sight will raise the point of
> >> >impact... That is what I remember from my Instructors Training course
> >>
> >> Ad Miller
> >> IMHO
> >> dont believe that filing the front sight will solve his total
> >> problem---would take about .32 to get the strike of the bullet to
> >> move 16"---it would help but is not the solution---what is happening is
> >> that he is not down on the gun with his head and is looking at the sight
> >> at a angle---most new shooters of smooth bores do this--- suggest that
> >> you use a different sight picture---
> >>
> >> use your thumb and pointing finger and grip the barrel so that they
> >> protrude above the plain of the barrel---this gives you a rear reference
> >> point have your fingers placed about the same height as the front sight
> >> ---then look thru your fingers and center the front sight and level it
> >> with the top of your fingers---as a reference shoot it a few times like
> >> that and see if the strike of the bullet comes up---if it does you are in
> >> good shape if not lower your fingers and try again---pappy horn taught me
> >> to do that many years ago and it works when there is no rear sight---you
> >> can pick up almost any smooth bore and be on target at 50 yds---if you do
> >> it that way---also your powder charge should be increased by at least 10
> >> to 20 gr to bring the strike of the bullet up a tad before you start the
> >> sighting in process---shoot for groop and not for location on the
> >> target---if it is still shooting low then
> >>
> >> check the squareness of the end of the barrel and the crown---a off-angle
> >> of the crown or a not sq crown will make the gun shoot off quite a
> >> bit---use a framers square and check at least 4 places on the barrel---if
> >> the crown is damaged then it will shoot off also---eleminate the obvious
> >> before you start fileing on the sight----you can also use the tang screw
> >> slot as a method of centering the front sight ---turn the screw so that
> >> it is parallel to the barrel---gives you a sight reference point---have
> >> seen people use a washer under the tang screw to rase it up so that there
> >> is a simbelance of a rear sight when shooting a gun in---constant
> >> position of the head is critical to get consistancy with a smoothbore
> >> with out a rear sight---
> >>
> >> if all else fails you might have to bend the barrel---as cpt lathe
> >> suggested----check the arcives we had a long discussion on this several
> >> months ago---some good info there in the archives---if you dont
> >> understand my posting feeel free to give me a call any evening and i will
> >> talk you thru the sighting in process and getting that impact of the ball
> >> in the right place---have helped a many a smooth bore shooter get it to
> >> work correct---you can also regulate the barrel to get the strike of the
> >> bullet to move in the direction you wish but would have to talk you thru
> >> that process---I have regulated several of them and moved the strike of
> >> the bullet as much as 12 inches without a problem at 50 yds---the only
> >> problem with regulating it is that if you are shooting buck and ball or
> >> shot it will greatly change your point of impact---so i normally dont do
> >> that until i am sure the barrel is shooting off and it is not shooter
> >> error---
> >>
> >> REMEMBER----head position on the stock is critical with a smooth bore and
> >> must be consistant ---even if it is wrong???
> >>
> >> SUGGESTION----have a nother smooth bore shooter shoot your gun and see
> >> where he hits on the target---shoot at least 5 shots and look at the
> >> center of mast of the groop.
> >>
> >> hope i have helped if you have any questions feel free to give me a call
> >>
> >> YMHOSANT
> >> =+=
> >> "Hawk"
> >> Michael Pierce
> >
> >Guys,
> >
> >I have done as Hawk has suggested, even put a small peep sight screw into
> the tang screw to get on target. Round barrel guns are tricky at times, but
> for some real fun wait until you get an oxy.barrel smoothbore with rear
> sight that won't keep 3 shots at 50 yards on a 5' x 5' archery target.
> >
> >Sometimes smoothbores can drive you crazy, had a oxy. barreled smoothbore
> gun (Dennis Miles owns it now) that would not shoot period. I tried
> everything and finally gave it to several super shots to see what they could
> do - same story. Ron Long, of Long's Locks (world class shooter) did
> everything possible, even put barrel in his lathe to check out, end of story
> is now Dennis has a hell of a shooter - a rifled jager. We gave up after
> hundreds of rounds and raplaced the oxy. barrel.
> >
> >
> >Later,
> >Buck Conner
> >
> >AMM Jim Baker Party Colorado Territory
> >http://klesinger.com/jbp/swf1.html
> >__________________________________
> >
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Date: 30 Aug 1999 17:43:07 -0700
From: Buck <buck.conner@uswestmail.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Low Shooter
On Mon, 30 August 1999, "larry pendleton" wrote:
>
> Dang Buck, I was hoping you were gonna say you pawned that no shootin sucker
> off on Ole Dennis. [ Just kidding. ] I aim to hook up with Dennis in a
> shootin match this fall, and I'll need all the help I can get. I have seen
> the targets he has shot with that gun. Real impressive.
> Pendleton
For a kid, he's a fair shot and one hell of a con-man, watch your coins when your in a match with him. You'll find out what a "sucker" - one can be Larry.
Later,
Buck Conner
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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 20:45:38 -0400
From: deforge1@wesnet.com (Dennis Miles)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Low Shooter
Gee Buck.....I'm hurt.. Hear that sound? 'Tis me wee heart a breakin'. i 'tis.....
D
Buck wrote:
> For a kid, he's a fair shot and one hell of a con-man, watch your coins when your in a match with him. You'll find out what a "sucker" - one can be Larry.
>
> Later,
> Buck Conner
>
> AMM Jim Baker Party Colorado Territory
> http://klesinger.com/jbp/swf1.html
> __________________________________
>
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Date: 30 Aug 1999 17:46:50 -0700
From: "Buck" <buck.conner@uswestmail.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Low Shooter
On Mon, 30 August 1999, Dennis Miles wrote:
>
> Sniff..Sniff........Do I smell fear???<G>
> D
See Larry, I mentioned coins and here he comes.
Later,
Buck Conner
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Date: 30 Aug 1999 17:49:49 -0700
From: "Buck" <buck.conner@uswestmail.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Low Shooter
On Mon, 30 August 1999, Dennis Miles wrote:
>
> Gee Buck.....I'm hurt.. Hear that sound? 'Tis me wee heart a breakin'. i 'tis.....
> D
No thats you reachin' for a wager kid. You been hangin' with the Amish brothers to long, need to get away for a spell.
Later,
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Date: 30 Aug 1999 17:53:06 -0700
From: "Concho" <concho@uswestmail.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Low Shooter
On Mon, 30 August 1999, "Buck" wrote:
>
> On Mon, 30 August 1999, Dennis Miles wrote:
>
> >
> > Gee Buck.....I'm hurt.. Hear that sound? 'Tis me wee heart a breakin'. i 'tis.....
> > D
>
Money, Money, did I hear a wager on shootin'
"May the spirit be with you"
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Livingston, MO.
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Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 00:53:14 GMT
From: "Bill Jackson" <billjackson@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Low Shooter
Ole Dennis
going to be at the Fair at New Boston this weekend??
good stories about your shooting
Bill
>From: deforge1@wesnet.com (Dennis Miles)
>Reply-To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
>To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Low Shooter
>Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 20:45:38 -0400
>
>Gee Buck.....I'm hurt.. Hear that sound? 'Tis me wee heart a breakin'. i
>'tis.....
>D
>
>Buck wrote:
>
> > For a kid, he's a fair shot and one hell of a con-man, watch your coins
>when your in a match with him. You'll find out what a "sucker" - one can be
>Larry.
> >
> > Later,
> > Buck Conner
> >
> > AMM Jim Baker Party Colorado Territory
> > http://klesinger.com/jbp/swf1.html
> > __________________________________
> >
> > The AMM Journal.
> > The Tomahawk & Long Rifle
> > 3483 Squires * Conklin, MI 49403
> > ATTN: Jon Link
> > Subscription rate for the T&LR is $20 for
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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 21:54:18 -0400
From: deforge1@wesnet.com (Dennis Miles)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Low Shooter
Concho..
They are just tellin' stories.... I'll nae wager on shootin'....I swear..<G>
D
>
>
> Money, Money, did I hear a wager on shootin'
>
> "May the spirit be with you"
> D.L. Smith
> Livingston, MO.
> Historical Coordinator - Missouri
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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 21:16:05 -0500
From: "Ratcliff" <rat@htcomp.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Low Shooter
You boys better watch yer topknots....that Larry Pendleton is the very =
best bald headed rifle shooter in all 50 states and he is prepared to =
prove it at any time. Ain'tcha Larry?
yer good friend
Lanney
- ----- Original Message -----=20
From: Dennis Miles <deforge1@wesnet.com>
To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Monday, August 30, 1999 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Low Shooter
> Concho..
> They are just tellin' stories.... I'll nae wager on shootin'....I =
swear..<G>
> D
>=20
>=20
> >
> >
> > Money, Money, did I hear a wager on shootin'
> >
> > "May the spirit be with you"
> > D.L. Smith
> > Livingston, MO.
> > Historical Coordinator - Missouri
> > ___________________________________
> > Signup for your free USWEST.mail Email account =
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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 22:27:52 -0400
From: deforge1@wesnet.com (Dennis Miles)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Low Shooter
OOOooooo.. With friends like Ratcliff........<G>
D
Ratcliff wrote:
> You boys better watch yer topknots....that Larry Pendleton is the very best bald headed rifle shooter in all 50 states and he is prepared to prove it at any time. Ain'tcha Larry?
> yer good friend
> Lanney
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dennis Miles <deforge1@wesnet.com>
> To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 1999 8:54 PM
> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Low Shooter
>
> > Concho..
> > They are just tellin' stories.... I'll nae wager on shootin'....I swear..<G>
> > D
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Money, Money, did I hear a wager on shootin'
> > >
> > > "May the spirit be with you"
> > > D.L. Smith
> > > Livingston, MO.
> > > Historical Coordinator - Missouri
> > > ___________________________________
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> >
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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 18:25:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: George Noe <gnoe39@yahoo.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: Fwd: www.stickstone.com
Hello the list:
Here is a link you bow men might like.
New "KID" on the block.
Tell him groege sent you.
George
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> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 20:10:11 -0500
> From: George Noe <gnoe39@cottoninternet.net>
> Subject: www.stickstone.com
> To: George Noe <gnoe39@yahoo.com>
> Reply-to: George Noe <gnoe39@cottoninternet.net>
>
>
>
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>
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