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hist_text-digest Friday, May 28 1999 Volume 01 : Number 304
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Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 15:59:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: PHD <huv@mail.bright.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fw: turtle shells
At 04:23 PM 5/24/99 -0700, you wrote:
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: landis <aslandis@wa.freei.net>
>To: mountain men <hist_text@xmission.com>
>Date: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 7:18 PM
>Subject: turtle shells
>
>
> Does anyone know where I might get a turtle shell in about the 8" or
10" size.
>It is nedded to make a pouch kind of thingy to carry goods in.any info will
help.
> Thank
You Adam
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></B>Wednesday, May 19, 1999 7:18 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>turtle
>shells<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
><DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2> Does anyone know where I
>might get a turtle shell in about the 8" or 10" size.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>It is nedded to make a pouch kind of thingy to
>carry goods in.any info will help.</FONT></DIV>
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>Hello list, I've found a free source for turtle shells !!!!! get in touch
with your local high school biology teacher I got about twenty perfect sized
shells Philip aka (Dummy)
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Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 06:39:25 EDT
From: MIA3WOLVES@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fw: turtle shells
Eidnes Furs in St. Maries, Idaho.
Red Hawk
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Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 21:05:53 -0700
From: Frank <Buckskinner@gbis.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: Art (OFF TOPIC)
Hello the camp,
I have a friend who is a VERY gifted artist. She recently did a pen and
ink for me from a few photos taken at rendezvous. The Mountain Man
picture on this web page is what I now have hanging on my wall.
The picture here does not do the work justice. There is red and blue in
the blanket trim on my shirt that doesn't show here, but you get the
idea.
Her prices are very reasonable and she does work from photos which is
convenient.
I'm very happy with my picture and wanted to share this resource with
you.
There are other pages showing her work but this is the one showing her
Mountain Man art.
Medicine Bear
http://www.zyworld.com/HozannaDesignsAGTY/Page3.htm
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Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 17:39:27 -0400
From: Tom Roberts <troberts@gdi.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: Indigo Dye
I will welcome the advice and warnings from anyone who has experience
using indigo dye on osnaburg fabric, either on-list or off-list.
Thanks, Tom
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Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 07:14:49 -0700
From: "john c. funk,jr" <j2hearts@shasta.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: Flint shotgun "kits"
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Hello the camp,
I'm looking for a manufacturer that produces flint, double =
side-by-sides. Like the old Manton,s. Does anyone know of an outfit =
that produces a quality (I hate to use the word) "kit"?
John Funk
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<DIV>Hello the camp,</DIV>
<DIV>I'm looking for a manufacturer that produces flint, double=20
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outfit=20
that produces a quality (I hate to use the word) "kit"?</DIV>
<DIV>John Funk</DIV></BODY></HTML>
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Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 08:49:27 -0700 (MST)
From: delis@aztec.asu.edu (BRUCE S. DE LIS)
Subject: MtMan-List: Raw Dairy Cattle Horns
Still!!!, Seeking a source for Raw Horns suitable for making Skirmished Pow
der & Primer Horn Set. I would hopping to be able to find Raw Horns from Dairy C
attle, Mostly White with Amber, Brownish/Reddish, or last Choice Black Tips. Wan
t Dairy Cattle Horns, as the Dairy Cattle produce the Best Quality Raw Horns, as
they are on a consist diet, that cause their horns to be more consistent in overa
ll wall thickness. If anyone is aware of a source of Raw Horn from Dairy Cattle,
for making Powder Horns suitable for Scrimshaw please advise.. Online or e-mail
me off line....
Thanks,
B
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Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 07:51:11 -0500
From: James A Lindberg <jal@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fw: turtle shells
Is there any documentation on turtle shells actually being used for
"handbags" and such during the fur trade era?
Thanks,
Jim
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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 20:30:07 -0700
From: "Carpenter, Ken" <ken.carpenter@ci.culver-city.ca.us>
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Mtman-List: August 1862 Sioux Uprising in Minneso ta
- -----Original Message-----
From: JONDMARINETTI@webtv.net [mailto:JONDMARINETTI@webtv.net]
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 1999 10:24 PM
To: hist_text@xmission.com
Subject: MtMan-List: Mtman-List: August 1862 Sioux Uprising in Minnesota
The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln, Volume 5, pages 542-543 (Roy P.
Basler, editor, Rutgers University Press, 1953), shows the transcript
of the Presidential Order dated Executive Mansion, Washington, Dec.6,
1862 that authorized the executions for Dec.19. Lists the phonetic
spelling of the names of the 39 condemned. President Lincoln had also
mentioned "this Indian war" previously in his Dec.1 Annual Message to
Congress (pages 525-526) noting "that from different sources ... a
simultaneous attack was to be made upon the white settlements by all the
tribes between the Mississippi river and the Rocky mountains".
Try:
http://www.alincolnassoc.com/
and: http://mel.lib.mi.us/government/GOV-historical.html - This is the
home page.
I found the reference to the uprising on this site. This a great site for
searching for historical documents also.
Carp
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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 14:54:34 -0700
From: Pat Quilter <pat_quilter@qscaudio.com>
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Flint shotgun "kits"
Can't help on the "kit" aspect, but one of the "Most into Manton" gun makers
I know is Steve Lodding's shop in Las Vegas. Unfortunately, I can't remember
the exact name of his business for the phone listing.
- -----Original Message-----
From: john c. funk,jr [mailto:j2hearts@shasta.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 7:15 AM
To: history line
Subject: MtMan-List: Flint shotgun "kits"
Hello the camp,
I'm looking for a manufacturer that produces flint, double side-by-sides.
Like the old Manton,s. Does anyone know of an outfit that produces a
quality (I hate to use the word) "kit"?
John Funk
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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 07:54:03 -0700
From: "john c. funk,jr" <j2hearts@shasta.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: Flint shotgun, Hellooooooooo !!!
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OK ! That didn't get much response. Does anyone know of a builder that =
builds "flint" shotguns?
I want a FLINT SHOTGUN !!!! I'd rather build it myself but I'll listen =
to anything at this point.
John Funk
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<DIV>OK ! That didn't get much response. Does anyone know of a =
builder=20
that builds "flint" shotguns?</DIV>
<DIV>I want a FLINT SHOTGUN !!!! I'd rather build it myself but =
I'll=20
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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 00:00:03 -0400
From: Michael Pierce <hawknest4@juno.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Raw Dairy Cattle Horns
On Wed, 26 May 1999 08:49:27 -0700 (MST) delis@aztec.asu.edu (BRUCE S. DE
LIS) writes:
>
>
>Still!!!, Seeking a source for Raw Horns suitable for making
>Skirmished Pow
>der & Primer Horn Set. I would hopping to be able to find Raw Horns
>from Dairy C
>attle, Mostly White with Amber, Brownish/Reddish, or last Choice Black
>Tips.
BRUCE********
here is the addresses for quality scrimshaw horns that I have posted
before ----suggest you give them a call---
primary source:
Karl Wilborn
5073 Townsley rd
ceaderville, ohio, 45314
1-513-766-5415
secondary source:
the K. Company
128B Lebby st.
Pelzer s.c. 29669
1-864-947-2788
both people advertise in muzzle blast---karl is known for his quality
horns and flat horns---he is a major supplier to most of the other
dealers out there and has horn kits which includes a turned and fitted
plugs---he also sells raw horns but prefers to sell his kits and matched
sets---his sets are outstanding and can be furnished with any color of
tip that you might want---suggest you give him a call and you will find
what you need---
=+=
"Hawk"
Michael Pierce
854 Glenfield Dr.
Palm Harbor, florida 34684
1-(727) 771-1815 E-MAIL ADDRESS: HAWKNEST4@juno.com
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Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 00:06:39 -0400
From: Michael Pierce <hawknest4@juno.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Flint shotgun "kits"
On Wed, 26 May 1999 07:14:49 -0700 "john c. funk,jr"
<j2hearts@shasta.com> writes:
>Hello the camp,
>I'm looking for a manufacturer that produces flint, double =
>side-by-sides. Like the old Manton,s. Does anyone know of an outfit
>=
>that produces a quality (I hate to use the word) "kit"?
>John Funk
>
John:
not anyone out there that makes a kit but you can buy pieces---suggest
you contact
FFFG@juno.com he lives in helena montana and is big into the shotgunning
- --there was also another gentleman that i corresponded with that needed
some info on chokeing and regulating a double shotgun if i can locate his
e-mail address i will post it for you---
you are in a verry shallow market area and any flint shotgun you find is
going to cost you some bucks---but on the other hand you will be getting
quality----
there is a guy in North carolina that makes complete guns his first name
is mike and his last name is inger but that isnt spelled right--will
look thru my junk and see if i can find you some more info ---contact
FFFg and see how he directs you---
"Hawk"
Michael Pierce
854 Glenfield Dr.
Palm Harbor, florida 34684
1-(727) 771-1815 E-MAIL ADDRESS: HAWKNEST4@juno.com
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Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 19:30:10 -0700
From: Dennis Fisher <dfisher@sbceo.k12.ca.us>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Raw Dairy Cattle Horns
BRUCE S. DE LIS wrote:
> Still!!!, Seeking a source for Raw Horns suitable for making Skirmished Pow
> der & Primer Horn Set. I would hopping to be able to find Raw Horns from Dairy C
> attle,
Unless things have changed since I grew up on a farm, dairy cattle are normally
dehorned at a young age. Hence, no horns.
Dennis
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Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 21:32:39 -0700
From: "larry pendleton" <yrrw@airmail.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Flint shotgun "kits"
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John,
There is a fellow in the Ft. Worth, TX. area who is building some =
incredible side by sides. I don't know if he offers a " kit ". I can't =
even recall his name, but I'll try to get the info for you.
Pendleton
-----Original Message-----
From: john c. funk,jr <j2hearts@shasta.com>
To: history line <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Date: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 7:12 PM
Subject: MtMan-List: Flint shotgun "kits"
=20
=20
Hello the camp,
I'm looking for a manufacturer that produces flint, double =
side-by-sides. Like the old Manton,s. Does anyone know of an outfit =
that produces a quality (I hate to use the word) "kit"?
John Funk
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT><FONT size=3D2> There =
is a fellow in=20
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sides. I=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Original =
Message-----</B><BR><B>From:=20
</B>john c. funk,jr <<A=20
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href=3D"mailto:j2hearts@shasta.com">j2hearts@shasta.com</A>><BR><B>To:=
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</B>history line <<A=20
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</B>Wednesday, May 26, 1999 7:12 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>MtMan-List: =
Flint=20
shotgun "kits"<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV>Hello the camp,</DIV>
<DIV>I'm looking for a manufacturer that produces flint, double=20
side-by-sides. Like the old Manton,s. Does anyone know =
of an=20
outfit that produces a quality (I hate to use the word)=20
"kit"?</DIV>
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Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 00:03:56 -0700
From: randybublitz@juno.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Mtman-List: sharpening razors
I just received my June 1999 issue of Muzzle Blasts. In it is an
article on sharpening straight Razors. Thought this was interesting, as
we have been talking about razors, and i had sent out some articles on
razors. Check out Muzzle loader if you are interested in Straight
razors. This is the best issue of M B In awhile, lots of good articles..
Hardtack
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