I ha' both...<G> And enjoy them immensley!! The long bow is a shooter...
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P.S. Did you get my message of yesterday?
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Date: 16 Apr 1999 06:55:28 -0700
From: <buck.conner@uswestmail.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List:air guns
Hawk,
I talked to a gentleman at Beeman Prec. Air Rifles, they have some Italian and German Air Rifles that date in the 1770-1870 range. He said there was a German air rifle in pieces at Smithsonian that had a 1768 date, one of a kind, and probably not produced in any large numbers.
I have kicked myself for years over an 1850's air rifle that Muley Carr had at the Colorado Antique Gun Collectors Show back in the 70's. Looked like a fine sporting rifle, precussion half stock, with a brass 4-5 inch ball in front of the trigger guard that was the air chamber. It was in NRA Good condition, and best part it was a 38 cal. Muley wanted cash, $2500 and wouldn't take a trade, before I could sell what I had at the show, he sold the air rifle.
Would still like to have one, or if could figure out a system with parts and have one built. Any ideas on this.
Buck
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> On 14 Apr 1999 18:42:14 -0700 <buck.conner@uswestmail.net> writes:
> >Yes, Lewis & Clark had an air rifle with them that wowed the local
> >Native Americans.
> >
> >Air guns were around long before this period, and I remember reading
> >some of the best ones came from Germany,
>
> air guns have been around since the late 1700 and were invented in
> germany if my memory serves me well. cant find my book on them so will
> have to quote info from memory--- looked thru some of my books but didnt
> find what i wanted---louis and clark took a air gun on their trip and to
> a pump up this airgun --- it wad pumped up with a lever and the butt
> stock was the air chamber---if you go to smithsonian there is one of the
> same models as louis and clark took with them if i am not wrong it is
> dated 1780 or around that time period---it was by a german maker and
> shot lead bb's size shot but they made them that went up to about 60 gage
> or around 30 something caliber if i am not mistaken-.
>
> american rifleman did a article on the airguns and dated them and all
> several years ago---so if you do some digging you will find out about
> them the one that they discuss is the one in smithsonian. I believe the
> davis museum in clarimore okla had one also that is very early but later
> than the louis and clark gun---very interesting piece and made later than
> the one in smithsonian---
>
> best date i can put on them off my head is about 1780. plus or minus 10
> years. all the early air guns were made in germany and i know of only 2
> makers and if i remember correctly they lived quite close to each other
> in their villages so it leads me to thank that they probly were either
> kin to each other or had a friendly match going with each other---they
> were highly accurate up to about 50 yds most were smooth bore and the
> shot or ball dia was almost bore dia and was drop shot ---I usto own a
> gameing rifle that shot bb's but it was powered by a precussion cap---I
> would patch the lead bb's with paper towels and could shoot half way thru
> a 1" pine board across the living roon---got into a lot of trouble with
> it with the better half---it was stolen when i got broken into---it was
> made by the german maker with the same name as the air rifles in
> smithsonian---I thank they made a lot of these type of guns---called them
> saloon guns for the guys in the bars to use to test their marksmanship
> skills---
>
> bout all I can remember --best advice is go to the nra and look thru
> their back issues and you will find the smithsonian gun which is the same
We carry tin coffee pots at Clark & Sons Mercantile : http://www.teleport.com/~walking/clark/
Later
YF&B
Buck Conner
dba/Clark & Sons Mercantile, Inc.
>
> Lanny try Northstar maybe they still carry tin ware coffee pots. later Jon T
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Date: 17 Apr 1999 07:32:57 -0700
From: <buck.conner@uswestmail.net>
Subject: RE: MtMan-List:air guns
Bob,
Have you ever considered trying to build an early "wind gun" ?? If you decided to try such a thing let me know, would be interested in one in the "white" in a 32 to 36 cal. later
