> >Lets move on, seems everyone is in agreement that olive oil or walnut oil works, so make your selection and use what you like.
> >
> >Turtle
> >_____________
> >
> >On Fri, 02 April 1999, RR1LA@aol.com wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> been using olive oil for years on both noggins and utensils, and it works
> >> great. never been sticky or gone rancid, and you've probably got a bottle in
> >> your kitchen cupboard... MHO, Barney Fife
> >>
> >
> >
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Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 10:21:58 -0500
From: "Fred A. Miller" <fmiller@lightlink.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Honey
turtle@uswestmail.net wrote:
>
> Honey will turn hard into a crystal form, but can be heated in it's container sitting in a pan of water, bringing to a boil then remove and let cool. It's now good as new in it's original state. Have done this several times on a can of honey that was 4-5 years old and have had no problems. Think how much honey has been trashed because it had turned to crystal !
>
> Like Vic says I have been around bees and honey for a few years and have had no experience with it becoming rancid or molding. Many excellent health benefits from a natural product of nature.
The reason it doesn't "go bad," is because of something the bees have in the
hive called propolis(sp). It's made from certain tree pollens. Anyway, it
kills bacteria.
Fred
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Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 10:29:41 -0500
From: deforge1@wesnet.com (Dennis Miles)
Subject: MtMan-List: Shootin Gun
Hi all,
Those who read this on the other list ignore it, just casting the net a
might wider...
Due to the sudden need for a new shootin' gun, I am in the market. HAS to be
flint, and big enough for bear, doen't even have to be finished or
comlete... Any bites?
Thanks
D
"Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e"
DOUBLE EDGE FORGE
Period Knives & Iron Accouterments
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Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 09:36:31 -0600
From: "Ratcliff" <rat@htcomp.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Food Safe Oil
you are right......many dead horses are beaten so badly that their own =
mamas wouldn't know if they were laying face up or face down. Hope you =
>> >Lets move on, seems everyone is in agreement that olive oil or =
walnut oil works, so make your selection and use what you like.
>> >
>> >Turtle
>> >_____________
>> >
>> >On Fri, 02 April 1999, RR1LA@aol.com wrote:
>> >
>> >>=20
>> >> been using olive oil for years on both noggins and utensils, and =
it works=20
>> >> great. never been sticky or gone rancid, and you've probably got =
a bottle in=20
>> >> your kitchen cupboard... MHO, Barney Fife
>> >>=20
>> >
>> >
>> >Signup for your free USWEST.mail Email account =
http://www.uswestmail.net
>> >
>>=20
>>=20
>
>
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Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 09:42:06 -0600
From: "Ratcliff" <rat@htcomp.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Shootin Gun
Dennis
When I hunt bear down here I usually carry a big Willow switch and a =
burlap bag. Of course, there ain't no bear down here...except for a few =
in deep east Texas and some in the mountains of west Texas and I keep my =
ass out of there. Maybe you could shoot flints with a slingshot.=20
your helpful brother
Lanney
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From: Dennis Miles <deforge1@wesnet.com>
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Date: Saturday, April 03, 1999 9:31 AM
Subject: MtMan-List: Shootin Gun=20
>Hi all,
> Those who read this on the other list ignore it, just casting the net =
a
>might wider...
>Due to the sudden need for a new shootin' gun, I am in the market. HAS =
to be
>flint, and big enough for bear, doen't even have to be finished or
>comlete... Any bites?
>Thanks
>D
>
> "Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e"
> DOUBLE EDGE FORGE
> Period Knives & Iron Accouterments
> http://www.wesnet.com/deforge1
>
>
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Date: 3 Apr 1999 08:02:14 -0800
From: <buck.conner@uswestmail.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Military rifle (was Bayonetting a bear?)
Turtle you horses butt,
I thought you went under at that big flood on the Mississippi a few years ago, still back east!
If you can quote me right, then don't quote me at all, you left out all the colorful lanuage. Anyway I could list anything in the future that I may want to move if the folks on this list think that's OK.
Oh, it only takes me 35-40 days for the cleanin' and playin' now. The wife says that's more time for lookin' and tradin', she finally gave up on the dealin'.
That's right on the lug on that musket, forgot about that old flinter, Turtle you should have spoke up, would have saved it for you.
Lanney you can't hurt this old fart, his head is like a good old flint - smooth, dull and hard.
Later
Buck
On Sat, 03 April 1999, turtle@uswestmail.net wrote:
> I have seen article in American Riflemen of "contract" rifles of the Amer. Rev. War and before showing lug arrangements on the end of barrels, a combination affair that included a sight.
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Date: 3 Apr 1999 08:02:14 -0800
From: <buck.conner@uswestmail.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Military rifle (was Bayonetting a bear?)
Turtle you horses butt,
I thought you went under at that big flood on the Mississippi a few years ago, still back east!
If you can quote me right, then don't quote me at all, you left out all the colorful lanuage. Anyway I could list anything in the future that I may want to move if the folks on this list think that's OK.
Oh, it only takes me 35-40 days for the cleanin' and playin' now. The wife says that's more time for lookin' and tradin', she finally gave up on the dealin'.
That's right on the lug on that musket, forgot about that old flinter, Turtle you should have spoke up, would have saved it for you.
Lanney you can't hurt this old fart, his head is like a good old flint - smooth, dull and hard.
Later
Buck
On Sat, 03 April 1999, turtle@uswestmail.net wrote:
> I have seen article in American Riflemen of "contract" rifles of the Amer. Rev. War and before showing lug arrangements on the end of barrels, a combination affair that included a sight.
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Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 17:38:47 -0500
From: "sean" <sean@peganet.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: Fw: Hist-Prog-Other comment Mountain Men
I wrote asking when they might be re-showingthe Moutain Men... below is the
answer... Soooo... I ordered the video from the number below. They were
totally OUT of stock... Had a big run on it after the show was on TV... Will
be about 6 wks delivery they tell me. Anyone wanting it, call...I think it
was $24.00 including shipping.
Addison Miller
>Dear Addison,
>
>The program mentioned in your e-mail, "Time Machine: Mountain Men", is not
>scheduled to repeat at this time. Please check back regularly (every two
>to three months) to see if the program has been re-scheduled.
>
>To find out the home video availablity of this or any other program, please
>call A&E Home Video at (888) 708-1776. Ask for the program by its exact
>title. Thank you for your interest in our programming.
>
>
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Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 18:03:57 -0500 (EST)
From: JONDMARINETTI@webtv.net (JON MARINETTI)
Subject: MtMan-List: mtmen list: the last of the mountain men
Where's Kitchen Creek (state?)
Who's Buckskin Bill? (and some folks say he's up there still). Some
others have seen The Ancient Ones at various times. There's a 2 page
article by Charlie Richie (titled Presences) in a Dixie Gun Works 1981
Blackpowder Annual that is right along this path.
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Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 17:23:58 -0700
From: Dean Rudy <drudy@xmission.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: Fwd: Reenacting
>From: FSLark@aol.com
>Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 18:51:40 EST
>Subject: Reenacting
>To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com
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>
>I have been lurking for just over a month and am getting interested in
>participating at Rendevous events. I have been to several Civil War
>reenactments locally which have whetted my appetite for living history.
As a
>complete novice, I have no equipment and know no one who is a "mountain man"
>reenactor in this part of Florida (Ocala). I am curious about how to get
>started and what startup equipment would cost. Any help/advice would be
>greatly appreciated.
>Frank
>P.S. I viewed the Mountain Man show on the History Channel. As a history
>teacher at the high school level, I can with certainty assert that few
>students would catch the errors noted. I believe the only truly glaring
>error was the Winchester rifle in the photograph.
>
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Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 17:00:53 -0800
From: Ridgerunner <shabut@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Honey
"Fred A. Miller" wrote:
>
>
> The reason it doesn't "go bad," is because of something the bees have in the
> hive called propolis(sp). It's made from certain tree pollens. Anyway, it
> kills bacteria.
>
> Fred
>
Another reason is that honey, being pure sugar, is strongly hygroscopic.
In other words, it pulls all the water out of other cells that get into it,
thereby killing them. Good stuff, honey, especially on sourdough biscuits
soaked with marrowfat or butter.
Butch
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Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 14:31:56 EDT
From: PappyCton@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: On horse "wild" horse training.
There's a whole generation of horsemen, who like Monty Roberts, have figgered
out some easy(ier) ways to train... Tom Dorrance is another, who also has a
book out. There are a couple of others, too. These guys do workshops around
the country, with people bringing in horses as well as a full audience. Well
worth the admission price. Body language, timing and glacial slow patience
are key--- watching the process in real time makes a world of difference.
Having done some horseshoeing, and seen some hooves, mustang hooves are
sturdy, thick walled and well formed... not shelly and thin, but strong and
resilient. As the saying goes: `no hoof, no horse'. These were mustangs
raised in high desert country, not lush grasslands, either.
There are mustang show events, now. A teacher/friend taught me that
most of the health and training issues we deal with our horses, are caused by
captivity. Think about it- hoof problems, digestive, behavioral (i.e.,
cribbing), often have their root in, or are exacerbated by captivity.
Go see Monty Roberts, Tom Dorrance, or half a dozen others- you won't
regret it. Also, from the university of Colorado (I think), Dr. Temple
Grandin, who specializes in the design of livestock handling facilities. She
has a couple of books out, one auto biography, and a couple of texts. She
has a unique personal perception, and also does appearances. She also is
very accesible on line, from her own account.
From California, where we're all woolly and a yard wide!
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Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 23:11:53 -0700
From: Barbara Smith <barbsmth@portland.quik.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: Honey
Hey, any great tips on how to transport honey? I put mine in a glass
bottle with a cork, and no matter who nicely it's packed in my cassette,
it always tips over, oozes past the cork, and gets on everything! It's
become a huge joke with my friends. I hate to give up packing it, but
even crystalized it makes a mess. Help! :-)
YMDS
- -Tassee
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Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 23:16:53 -0700
From: Barbara Smith <barbsmth@portland.quik.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: Food Safe Oil
Okay, one last on this topic: My mama always uses peanut oil. Don't
wash your wooden ware in soap. If you use it ofen enough, it won't have
a chance to get rancid. Even when I've stuck mine in a cabinet for
year, pulled it out and found it sticky (rare occurence), I just scrub
it with hot water, use it, scrub it again, and re-oil. Mama would tan
my hide if she caught me washing her wooden bowls in soap. Same as the
cast iron. Thank God for the Depression - I've learned most of my
"mountain man" skills from my Mom from Oklahoma!
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Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 01:29:24 -0700
From: tigrbo1 <tigrbo1@ibm.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fwd: Reenacting
Greetings Dean,
Just for starters, pick a year date and locality, then work outward from
there. When developing your persona it helps a lot if you start out with a
specific year and location in mind as the year and place your persona is from
will determine a great deal. Hope this helps get you started, E-mail again when
you have more questions.
Best regards,
Terry Smith
>
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Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 00:59:50 -0700
From: tigrbo1 <tigrbo1@ibm.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: Wall Tents
Hello List,
This is to the fellow inquiring about wheather or not he should buy a wall tent from a civil war reenactor and would it be
period appropreate or not.
To make a long story short, wall tents are documentable back to before Roman times, so yes the tent would be just fine.
Best regards,
Terry Smith
>
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Date: 5 Apr 1999 07:37:20 -0700
From: <buck.conner@uswestmail.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Honey
Barb,
We have used a small paint can, quart size. You can buy new cans that can be fill with boiling water to clean then wash with hot soapy water.
I got lucky and found an old 1830's tin tobacco can that had a tight fitting lid, but only holds enought for a 2-3 day camp for several people. Of corse we you it in place of other sweeteners because of container and having no problems with ants or other bugs being attracted to it. On long 2-4 week outings we use the paint can that now has a pleasing dull tone now after years of service.
Have carried this in our "mess" on horseback, canoe and just moving from one spot to another with traveling and have had no spills in 25-30 years. Before this time period we tried a jar like you have mentioned and have had problems.
Buck
______________________
On Sun, 04 April 1999, Barbara Smith wrote:
>
> Hey, any great tips on how to transport honey? I put mine in a glass
> bottle with a cork, and no matter who nicely it's packed in my cassette,
> it always tips over, oozes past the cork, and gets on everything! It's
> become a huge joke with my friends. I hate to give up packing it, but
> even crystalized it makes a mess. Help! :-)
>
> YMDS
> -Tassee
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Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 09:14:24 -0600
From: Baird.Rick@orbital-lsg.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: mtmen list: the last of the mountain men
Jon,
Get the book so you'll know all about "Buckskin Bill". (He couldn't tan a lick
by the way). Kitchen Creek is in Idaho, Salmon River Primitive Area.
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