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To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com
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hist_text-digest Monday, March 29 1999 Volume 01 : Number 272
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Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 19:45:17 -0800
From: "john c. funk,jr" <j2hearts@shasta.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: Woops!
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Forgot one last bit of information....for the good of the corps.
BLM is currently (in Calif. at least and I suspect elsewhere) offering =
for sale wild horses taken from the Calif/Nev. high range areas:
Mares (some, rarely, with colts), geldings and yearlings. Ages range =
from yearlings to 5 years. Most seem to range in the area of 2 to 3 =
years. Heights are 14 to 15 hands (56"-60"), 900 to 1100 lbs. Minimum =
bid $125.00
There is a lot more inf.. available on there Government web sight. =
(don't have that right now but if anyone is interested I post it =
gladly.)
John Funk
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From: "john c. funk,jr" <j2hearts@shasta.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: Woops!
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Forgot one last bit of information....for the good of the corps.
BLM is currently (in Calif. at least and I suspect elsewhere) offering =
for sale wild horses taken from the Calif/Nev. high range areas:
Mares (some, rarely, with colts), geldings and yearlings. Ages range =
from yearlings to 5 years. Most seem to range in the area of 2 to 3 =
years. Heights are 14 to 15 hands (56"-60"), 900 to 1100 lbs. Minimum =
bid $125.00
There is a lot more inf.. available on there Government web sight. =
(don't have that right now but if anyone is interested I post it =
gladly.)
John Funk
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>BLM is currently (in Calif. at least =
and I=20
suspect elsewhere) offering for sale wild horses taken from the =
Calif/Nev. high=20
range areas:</FONT></DIV>
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geldings and=20
yearlings. Ages range from yearlings to 5 years. Most seem =
to range=20
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(56"-60"), 900 to 1100 lbs. Minimum bid =
$125.00</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>There is a lot more inf.. available =
on there=20
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 07:24:55 EST
From: KINJANO@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: walnut dye
thanks to one and all for the suggestions, ideas and warnings. i shall heed
them all as i begin this tenuous journey.
scary mary'
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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 22:22:58 +1200
From: "The Brooks" <ghbphoto@voyager.co.nz>
Subject: MtMan-List: cranberries.
When I was in the US a couple of years ago I developed a taste for
Cranberries. They are almost unknown here in NZ but I did manage to find 1
small plant which I got and planted.It is now about 2 feet high and this
year had it's first crop. I have just picked about 2LB of fruit off, but I
think I may have left it too long to pick as the fruit while very sweet and
tasty is very fleshy and about half the crop has already dropped onto the
ground. Can anyone on the list tell me when the correct time to pick is? and
also what can I do with them now that I have them. I don't think there is
enough to make jelly or to juice but maybe in a couple of years. How big
will my bush get and how do I propagate the one I have to get some more
bushes. And last question did they grow wild in the paths of the MM and
Indians and if so did they use them or have they too been introduced into
the states from somewhere else.Will they dry well to be used as trail food?
Kia Ora
Big Bear
In stinking hot and muggy Marlborough NZ.
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 17:32:03 -0500
From: deforge1@wesnet.com (Dennis Miles)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: cranberries.
Dry them.... They are great!!
Dennis
"Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e"
DOUBLE EDGE FORGE
Period Knives & Iron Accouterments
http://www.wesnet.com/deforge1
- -----Original Message-----
From: The Brooks <ghbphoto@voyager.co.nz>
To: hist_text @lists <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Date: Monday, March 29, 1999 5:25 PM
Subject: MtMan-List: cranberries.
>
>When I was in the US a couple of years ago I developed a taste for
>Cranberries. They are almost unknown here in NZ but I did manage to find 1
>small plant which I got and planted.It is now about 2 feet high and this
>year had it's first crop. I have just picked about 2LB of fruit off, but I
>think I may have left it too long to pick as the fruit while very sweet and
>tasty is very fleshy and about half the crop has already dropped onto the
>ground. Can anyone on the list tell me when the correct time to pick is?
and
>also what can I do with them now that I have them. I don't think there is
>enough to make jelly or to juice but maybe in a couple of years. How big
>will my bush get and how do I propagate the one I have to get some more
>bushes. And last question did they grow wild in the paths of the MM and
>Indians and if so did they use them or have they too been introduced into
>the states from somewhere else.Will they dry well to be used as trail food?
>Kia Ora
>Big Bear
>In stinking hot and muggy Marlborough NZ.
>
>
>
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 18:47:19 EST
From: ThisOldFox@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: cranberries.
In a message dated 99-03-29 17:28:49 EST, you write:
> How big will my bush get and how do I propagate the one I have to get some
> more bushes.
To propogate any woody perennial:
Gather river willow saplings whenever the sap is running. Early spring is
best. Cut them into small pieces and crush them in a washtub. Then cover
with water and leach. You will get a soup. Use this as your rooting medium.
Willow is a "magic" growth enhancer.
Take fresh cuttings from your plant, place in a jar, and cover 1/3 with the
soup. You will get hair roots forming after a while. When they are
sufficiently long, transfer the cutting to it's own pot filled with excelsior
or potting soil. Continue to water with the willow soup. After a time, you
can transplant the rooted cutting into the soil. Prepare the soil so that it
is loose, and you might want to put a cut up carp or other trash fish in with
the loose soil. Be sure to keep the plants well watered, but don't drown
them. You should have plants growing within a month or so.
Dave Kanger
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 16:15:21 -0800
From: "landis" <aslandis@wa.freei.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: bear jerky bug
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So what did people do back in the day when there was no test for bear =
meat and they made jerky or dried the meat? take their chances? would =
they not have done
for fear of getting sick? I had the bear jerky and did not get sick. =
Maybe I have an iron gut. Maybe I'm just lucky! =
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 16:33:27 -0800
From: Roger Lahti <lahtirog@gte.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: bear jerky bug
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landis wrote:
> So what did people do back in the day when there was no test for
> bear meat and they made jerky or dried the meat? take their chances?
> would they not have donefor fear of getting sick? I had the bear jerky
> and did not get sick. Maybe I have an iron gut. Maybe I'm just
> lucky! adam
>
> Adam,
>
> I think you have been lucky! I suspect that they either caught a case
> and didn't know it or the bears back then didn't carry it cause they
> hadn't been exposed to the same garbage our modern bears are exposed
> to. It may have not been the practice to make jerky from bear meat
> anyway. In any case it's a matter of common sense safety in this day
> and age. We know that bears carry the trichinosis bug today just as
> pigs do and we don't take the chance. We don't make jerky out of pig
> meat either.
>
> You can drink from lakes and streams many times and not catch a case
> of Giardia but the one time you do catch it you will wish you had
> always treated your water in some way. The effects of such diseases
> are never pleasent and many times can be life threatening. Why take
> the chance with your health and the safety and well being of your
> family while you are flat sick and not working, etc. Not worth it at
> all in my book. Beef and such makes better jerky anyway and it is
> safe. Take your bear meat and treat it like pork, make ham and bacon
> and chops and sausage, etc. Leave the jerky for another type of
> animal. I remain......
>
> YMOS
> Capt. Lahti'
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<p>landis wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE> <font size=-1>So what did people do back
in the day when there was no test for bear meat and they made jerky or
dried the meat? take their chances? would they not have done</font><font size=-1>for
fear of getting sick? I had the bear jerky and did not get sick. Maybe
I have an iron gut. Maybe I'm just lucky!
adam</font><font size=-1></font>
<p><font size=-1>Adam,</font><font size=-1></font>
<p><font size=-1>I think you have been lucky! I suspect that they either
caught a case and didn't know it or the bears back then didn't carry it
cause they hadn't been exposed to the same garbage our modern bears are
exposed to. It may have not been the practice to make jerky from bear meat
anyway. In any case it's a matter of common sense safety in this day and
age. We know that bears carry the trichinosis bug today just as pigs do
and we don't take the chance. We don't make jerky out of pig meat either.</font><font size=-1></font>
<p><font size=-1>You can drink from lakes and streams many times and not
catch a case of Giardia but the one time you do catch it you will wish
you had always treated your water in some way. The effects of such diseases
are never pleasent and many times can be life threatening. Why take the
chance with your health and the safety and well being of your family while
you are flat sick and not working, etc. Not worth it at all in my book.
Beef and such makes better jerky anyway and it is safe. Take your bear
meat and treat it like pork, make ham and bacon and chops and sausage,
etc. Leave the jerky for another type of animal. I remain......</font><font size=-1></font>
<p><font size=-1>YMOS</font>
<br><font size=-1>Capt. Lahti'</font></blockquote>
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 20:27:34 -0500
From: "Bob Keefe" <bobkeefe@nextek.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: Newbe needs advice
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Hello to all of the list
I am just trying to put together needs for my first season of =
rendezvous. I have run across an add in the local classifieds for a =
civil war officers wall tent and fly. How deferent would this be to fur =
trade? How much work would it be to convert to period. I thank you for =
any and all help
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 =
size=3D2> I am=20
just trying to put together needs for my first season of rendezvous. I =
have run=20
across an add in the local classifieds for a civil war officers wall =
tent and=20
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 17:43:43 -0800
From: "john c. funk,jr" <j2hearts@shasta.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: cranberries.
Big Bear,
Give me an address, if you like, and I'll send you some of what I purchase
locally. There GREAT......sweet,dry and not pithy. Give me a little time.
Got to get to town which is about 70 miles away. We buy dried cranberries
by the bags at an extremely reasonable price. Sorry, neither of us remember
the price or quantity.......but I'll send them anyway....if you like.
John Funk
J2hearts@Shasta.com
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From: The Brooks <ghbphoto@voyager.co.nz>
To: hist_text @lists <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Date: Monday, March 29, 1999 3:19 PM
Subject: MtMan-List: cranberries.
>
>When I was in the US a couple of years ago I developed a taste for
>Cranberries. They are almost unknown here in NZ but I did manage to find 1
>small plant which I got and planted.It is now about 2 feet high and this
>year had it's first crop. I have just picked about 2LB of fruit off, but I
>think I may have left it too long to pick as the fruit while very sweet and
>tasty is very fleshy and about half the crop has already dropped onto the
>ground. Can anyone on the list tell me when the correct time to pick is?
and
>also what can I do with them now that I have them. I don't think there is
>enough to make jelly or to juice but maybe in a couple of years. How big
>will my bush get and how do I propagate the one I have to get some more
>bushes. And last question did they grow wild in the paths of the MM and
>Indians and if so did they use them or have they too been introduced into
>the states from somewhere else.Will they dry well to be used as trail food?
>Kia Ora
>Big Bear
>In stinking hot and muggy Marlborough NZ.
>
>
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 17:31:32 -0800
From: "landis" <aslandis@wa.freei.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: bear jerky bug
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thanks for the info i was just wonderin what they did if anything.how =
about muskrat jerky? =
adam
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Lahti <lahtirog@gte.net>
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Date: Monday, March 29, 1999 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: bear jerky bug
=20
=20
=20
landis wrote:=20
So what did people do back in the day when there was no test =
for bear meat and they made jerky or dried the meat? take their chances? =
would they not have donefor fear of getting sick? I had the bear jerky =
and did not get sick. Maybe I have an iron gut. Maybe I'm just lucky! =
adam=20
Adam,=20
I think you have been lucky! I suspect that they either caught a =
case and didn't know it or the bears back then didn't carry it cause =
they hadn't been exposed to the same garbage our modern bears are =
exposed to. It may have not been the practice to make jerky from bear =
meat anyway. In any case it's a matter of common sense safety in this =
day and age. We know that bears carry the trichinosis bug today just as =
pigs do and we don't take the chance. We don't make jerky out of pig =
meat either.=20
You can drink from lakes and streams many times and not catch a =
case of Giardia but the one time you do catch it you will wish you had =
always treated your water in some way. The effects of such diseases are =
never pleasent and many times can be life threatening. Why take the =
chance with your health and the safety and well being of your family =
while you are flat sick and not working, etc. Not worth it at all in my =
book. Beef and such makes better jerky anyway and it is safe. Take your =
bear meat and treat it like pork, make ham and bacon and chops and =
sausage, etc. Leave the jerky for another type of animal. I remain...... =
YMOS=20
Capt. Lahti'
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>thanks for the info i was just =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Original =
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</B>Roger Lahti <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:lahtirog@gte.net">lahtirog@gte.net</A>><BR><B>To: =
</B><A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:hist_text@lists.xmission.com">hist_text@lists.xmission.com=
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<<A=20
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<P>landis wrote:=20
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE =3D CITE> <FONT size=3D-1>So what did =
people do=20
back in the day when there was no test for bear meat and they =
made jerky=20
or dried the meat? take their chances? would they not have=20
done</FONT><FONT size=3D-1>for fear of getting sick? I had the =
bear jerky=20
and did not get sick. Maybe I have an iron gut. Maybe I'm just=20
=
lucky! &=
nbsp; &n=
bsp; =20
adam</FONT><FONT size=3D-1></FONT>=20
<P><FONT size=3D-1>Adam,</FONT><FONT size=3D-1></FONT>=20
<P><FONT size=3D-1>I think you have been lucky! I suspect that =
they either=20
caught a case and didn't know it or the bears back then didn't =
carry it=20
cause they hadn't been exposed to the same garbage our modern =
bears are=20
exposed to. It may have not been the practice to make jerky from =
bear=20
meat anyway. In any case it's a matter of common sense safety in =
this=20
day and age. We know that bears carry the trichinosis bug today =
just as=20
pigs do and we don't take the chance. We don't make jerky out of =
pig=20
meat either.</FONT><FONT size=3D-1></FONT>=20
<P><FONT size=3D-1>You can drink from lakes and streams many =
times and not=20
catch a case of Giardia but the one time you do catch it you =
will wish=20
you had always treated your water in some way. The effects of =
such=20
diseases are never pleasent and many times can be life =
threatening. Why=20
take the chance with your health and the safety and well being =
of your=20
family while you are flat sick and not working, etc. Not worth =
it at all=20
in my book. Beef and such makes better jerky anyway and it is =
safe. Take=20
your bear meat and treat it like pork, make ham and bacon and =
chops and=20
sausage, etc. Leave the jerky for another type of animal. I=20
remain......</FONT><FONT size=3D-1></FONT>=20
<P><FONT size=3D-1>YMOS</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D-1>Capt.=20
Lahti'</FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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From: "landis" <aslandis@wa.freei.net>
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From: landis <aslandis@wa.freei.net>
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Date: Monday, March 29, 1999 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: bear jerky bug
thanks for the info i was just wonderin what they did if anything.how =
about muskrat jerky? =
adam
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Lahti <lahtirog@gte.net>
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Date: Monday, March 29, 1999 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: bear jerky bug
=20
=20
=20
landis wrote:=20
So what did people do back in the day when there was no test =
for bear meat and they made jerky or dried the meat? take their chances? =
would they not have donefor fear of getting sick? I had the bear jerky =
and did not get sick. Maybe I have an iron gut. Maybe I'm just lucky! =
adam=20
Adam,=20
I think you have been lucky! I suspect that they either caught a =
case and didn't know it or the bears back then didn't carry it cause =
they hadn't been exposed to the same garbage our modern bears are =
exposed to. It may have not been the practice to make jerky from bear =
meat anyway. In any case it's a matter of common sense safety in this =
day and age. We know that bears carry the trichinosis bug today just as =
pigs do and we don't take the chance. We don't make jerky out of pig =
meat either.=20
You can drink from lakes and streams many times and not catch a =
case of Giardia but the one time you do catch it you will wish you had =
always treated your water in some way. The effects of such diseases are =
never pleasent and many times can be life threatening. Why take the =
chance with your health and the safety and well being of your family =
while you are flat sick and not working, etc. Not worth it at all in my =
book. Beef and such makes better jerky anyway and it is safe. Take your =
bear meat and treat it like pork, make ham and bacon and chops and =
sausage, etc. Leave the jerky for another type of animal. I remain...... =
YMOS=20
Capt. Lahti'
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>thanks for the info i was just =
wonderin what=20
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</B>Roger Lahti <<A=20
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</B><A=20
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</B>Monday, March 29, 1999 4:38 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: =
MtMan-List: bear=20
jerky bug<BR><BR></DIV></FONT> =20
<P>landis wrote:=20
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE =3D CITE> <FONT size=3D-1>So what did =
people do=20
back in the day when there was no test for bear meat and they =
made jerky=20
or dried the meat? take their chances? would they not have=20
done</FONT><FONT size=3D-1>for fear of getting sick? I had the =
bear jerky=20
and did not get sick. Maybe I have an iron gut. Maybe I'm just=20
=
lucky! &=
nbsp; &n=
bsp; =20
adam</FONT><FONT size=3D-1></FONT>=20
<P><FONT size=3D-1>Adam,</FONT><FONT size=3D-1></FONT>=20
<P><FONT size=3D-1>I think you have been lucky! I suspect that =
they either=20
caught a case and didn't know it or the bears back then didn't =
carry it=20
cause they hadn't been exposed to the same garbage our modern =
bears are=20
exposed to. It may have not been the practice to make jerky from =
bear=20
meat anyway. In any case it's a matter of common sense safety in =
this=20
day and age. We know that bears carry the trichinosis bug today =
just as=20
pigs do and we don't take the chance. We don't make jerky out of =
pig=20
meat either.</FONT><FONT size=3D-1></FONT>=20
<P><FONT size=3D-1>You can drink from lakes and streams many =
times and not=20
catch a case of Giardia but the one time you do catch it you =
will wish=20
you had always treated your water in some way. The effects of =
such=20
diseases are never pleasent and many times can be life =
threatening. Why=20
take the chance with your health and the safety and well being =
of your=20
family while you are flat sick and not working, etc. Not worth =
it at all=20
in my book. Beef and such makes better jerky anyway and it is =
safe. Take=20
your bear meat and treat it like pork, make ham and bacon and =
chops and=20
sausage, etc. Leave the jerky for another type of animal. I=20
remain......</FONT><FONT size=3D-1></FONT>=20
<P><FONT size=3D-1>YMOS</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D-1>Capt.=20
Lahti'</FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 20:58:18 -0600
From: "Ratcliff" <rat@htcomp.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: bear jerky bug
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Adam
Listen to that old Finn. He is pretty smart.
Lanney Ratcliff
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From: landis <aslandis@wa.freei.net>
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Date: Monday, March 29, 1999 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: bear jerky bug
=20
=20
thanks for the info i was just wonderin what they did if =
anything.how about muskrat jerky? =
adam
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Lahti <lahtirog@gte.net>
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Date: Monday, March 29, 1999 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: bear jerky bug
=20
=20
=20
landis wrote:=20
So what did people do back in the day when there was no =
test for bear meat and they made jerky or dried the meat? take their =
chances? would they not have donefor fear of getting sick? I had the =
bear jerky and did not get sick. Maybe I have an iron gut. Maybe I'm =
just lucky! adam=20
Adam,=20
I think you have been lucky! I suspect that they either =
caught a case and didn't know it or the bears back then didn't carry it =
cause they hadn't been exposed to the same garbage our modern bears are =
exposed to. It may have not been the practice to make jerky from bear =
meat anyway. In any case it's a matter of common sense safety in this =
day and age. We know that bears carry the trichinosis bug today just as =
pigs do and we don't take the chance. We don't make jerky out of pig =
meat either.=20
You can drink from lakes and streams many times and not =
catch a case of Giardia but the one time you do catch it you will wish =
you had always treated your water in some way. The effects of such =
diseases are never pleasent and many times can be life threatening. Why =
take the chance with your health and the safety and well being of your =
family while you are flat sick and not working, etc. Not worth it at all =
in my book. Beef and such makes better jerky anyway and it is safe. Take =
your bear meat and treat it like pork, make ham and bacon and chops and =
sausage, etc. Leave the jerky for another type of animal. I remain...... =
YMOS=20
Capt. Lahti'
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000>Adam</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000></FONT>Listen to that old Finn. He is =
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<DIV>Lanney Ratcliff</DIV>
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</B>landis <<A=20
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MtMan-List: bear=20
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>thanks for the info i was just =
wonderin what=20
they did if anything.how about muskrat=20
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jerky? &=
nbsp; &n=
bsp; &nb=
sp; &nbs=
p; =20
adam</FONT></DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:lahtirog@gte.net">lahtirog@gte.net</A>><BR><B>To: =
</B><A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:hist_text@lists.xmission.com">hist_text@lists.xmission.com=
</A>=20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:hist_text@lists.xmission.com">hist_text@lists.xmission.com=
</A>><BR><B>Date:=20
</B>Monday, March 29, 1999 4:38 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: =
MtMan-List:=20
bear jerky bug<BR><BR></DIV></FONT> =20
<P>landis wrote:=20
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE =3D CITE> <FONT size=3D-1>So what =
did people=20
do back in the day when there was no test for bear meat and =
they=20
made jerky or dried the meat? take their chances? would they =
not=20
have done</FONT><FONT size=3D-1>for fear of getting sick? I =
had the=20
bear jerky and did not get sick. Maybe I have an iron gut. =
Maybe I'm=20
just=20
=
lucky! &=
nbsp; &n=
bsp; =20
adam</FONT><FONT size=3D-1></FONT>=20
<P><FONT size=3D-1>Adam,</FONT><FONT size=3D-1></FONT>=20
<P><FONT size=3D-1>I think you have been lucky! I suspect =
that they=20
either caught a case and didn't know it or the bears back =
then=20
didn't carry it cause they hadn't been exposed to the same =
garbage=20
our modern bears are exposed to. It may have not been the =
practice=20
to make jerky from bear meat anyway. In any case it's a =
matter of=20
common sense safety in this day and age. We know that bears =
carry=20
the trichinosis bug today just as pigs do and we don't take =
the=20
chance. We don't make jerky out of pig meat =
either.</FONT><FONT=20
size=3D-1></FONT>=20
<P><FONT size=3D-1>You can drink from lakes and streams many =
times and=20
not catch a case of Giardia but the one time you do catch it =
you=20
will wish you had always treated your water in some way. The =
effects=20
of such diseases are never pleasent and many times can be =
life=20
threatening. Why take the chance with your health and the =
safety and=20
well being of your family while you are flat sick and not =
working,=20
etc. Not worth it at all in my book. Beef and such makes =
better=20
jerky anyway and it is safe. Take your bear meat and treat =
it like=20
pork, make ham and bacon and chops and sausage, etc. Leave =
the jerky=20
for another type of animal. I remain......</FONT><FONT=20
size=3D-1></FONT>=20
<P><FONT size=3D-1>YMOS</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D-1>Capt.=20
=
Lahti'</FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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