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hist_text-digest Thursday, March 18 1999 Volume 01 : Number 260
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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 23:36:30 -0500
From: "sean" <sean@peganet.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: Lube
Not sure about authenticity, but a friend of mine who is a bee keepper,
makes a great patch lube from bees wax and some toher stuff. I'll look at
the tin and see if it says what is in it. Reduces the fouling by at least
half, and it is SO much easier to clean afterwards...
Sean
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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 20:14:16 -0800
From: Pat Laughlin <pat1@pe.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 18:27:03 -0800
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John,
I have taught American history for many years, done research for many
more. I have participated in living history events and many personas
over that period. I have always felt that a comfortable group of
scholars that can interact and learn as well as enjoy themselves makes
for a more cohesive group and one that can really get to the source and
share information in a fun and entertaining way. I'm sure that
mountainmen and women didn't spend all their time doing business at
their gatherings.
Sorry if we have offended you!
john c. funk,jr wrote:
> Dean, First, let me thank you, again, for your efforts to establish a
> historical forum in which some of us have gained much valuable
> information. I for one, truly appreciate your web site and what it
> potentially offers.Having said that, it appears that the site has
> turned into a "chat" line for those who wish to exchange jokes, snide
> remarks and other assorted drivel, none of which is of any value to
> those of us who originally subscribed and who remain in the shadows
> waiting to pounce on anything resembling a pertinent, Fur Trade Era,
> exchange of historical information. During the "early years" of this
> site there were some vibrant exchanges of real historical data which
> prompted us to head for the books and do some research to either add
> to or (cordially) dispute various assertions. That atmosphere appears
> to be suffering a rapid death.I am wondering if there any way a
> monthly admonishment, for lack of a better term, could be
> automatically posted on the site which reiterates the principal under
> which the site was originally established?I know you've done a lot for
> the site and I apologize for hanging this on you, but I for one have
> about had it with some of this B.S. and I know of a couple of others
> who have a wealth of potential valuable information to share who have
> really been done in by the superfluous trivia that now exists on the
> site. It would be a shame to loose what you originally established
> and which broadened the knowledge of us all concerning the enchanting
> era of the Fur Trade.Yr. Obdnt. Srvnt.John Funk
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John,
<P>I have taught American history for many years, done research for many
more. I have participated in living history events and many personas
over that period. I have always felt that a comfortable group of
scholars that can interact and learn as well as enjoy themselves makes
for a more cohesive group and one that can really get to the source and
share information in a fun and entertaining way. I'm sure that mountainmen
and women didn't spend all their time doing business at their gatherings.
<P>Sorry if we have offended you!
<P>john c. funk,jr wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> <FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE=-1>Dean,</FONT></FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE=-1>First,
let me thank you, again, for your efforts to establish a historical forum
in which some of us have gained much valuable information. I for
one, truly appreciate your web site and what it potentially offers.</FONT></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE=-1>Having
said that, it appears that the site has turned into a "chat" line for those
who wish to exchange jokes, snide remarks and other assorted drivel, none
of which is of any value to those of us who originally subscribed and who
remain in the shadows waiting to pounce on anything resembling a
pertinent, Fur Trade Era, exchange of historical information.
During the "early years" of this site there were some vibrant exchanges
of real historical data which prompted us to head for the books and
do some research to either add to or (cordially) dispute various assertions.
That atmosphere appears to be suffering a rapid death.</FONT></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE=-1>I
am wondering if there any way a monthly admonishment, for lack of a better
term, could be automatically posted on the site which reiterates the principal
under which the site was originally established?</FONT></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE=-1>I
know you've done a lot for the site and I apologize for hanging this on
you, but I for one have about had it with some of this B.S. and I know
of a couple of others who have a wealth of potential valuable information
to share who have really been done in by the superfluous trivia that now
exists on the site. It would be a shame to loose what you originally
established and which broadened the knowledge of us all concerning
the enchanting era of the Fur Trade.</FONT></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE=-1>Yr.
Obdnt. Srvnt.</FONT></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE=-1>John Funk</FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 22:58:18 -0600
From: "Ron and Gayle Harris" <buckskin@cyberramp.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: LUBE
I use larry"s, lube and think it works really well.
Dennis, Just shut upand don't even go there.)
ron
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From: larry pendleton <yrrw@cyberramp.net>
To: mountain lists <hist_text@xmission.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 17, 1999 8:20 PM
Subject: MtMan-List: LUBE
>Hawk,
> Good to hear from you. The piece on the patch lube was very interesting.
> I have used them all. Some fairly successfully, but most not. I could
>never figure out why you would want to use camphor or wintergreen in a
>patch lube that you would use when hunting. I to make and sell a patch
>lube. I sell it locally, although I have advertised it in a magazine. I
>became quite discouraged by the outrageous claims made by the large
>companies. Also there is no way a guy working out of his house can compete
>with the ad budgets of those guys. The claims that are made by national
>brand lube companies are so outlandish it is unreal, and yet the vast
>majority of black powder shooters buy it hook line and sinker.
> The other fellow Tim Austin was refering to is Gene High. Gene and I are
>in the same area, and are friendly competitors.
>Pendleton
>
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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 23:46:23 EST
From: TetonTod@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 18:27:03 -0800
Well said John! That gets my vote.
Todd Glover
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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 20:57:05 -0800
From: "landis" <aslandis@wa.freei.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: Fw:
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Date: Tuesday, March 16, 1999 6:04 PM
How Do!
I just wanted to say thank you to fellow mlml people who attended the =
show on March 13 and 14.I had a very good time for my first show.All the =
people there were
great and the fry bread was excellent! Thanks to my brother for getting =
me involved
in exploring a part of my long lost but not forgotten history, plus he =
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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 21:02:50 -0800
From: Butch <shabut@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: A Gathering of Women
TrapRJoe@aol.com wrote:
>
> No What did the Indian women do to white men
Are you *sure* you want to know? This knowledge may cause you to try to
walk with your legs crossed for some time.
Butch
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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 05:15:36 GMT
From: rparker7@ix.netcom.com (Roy Parker)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: A Gathering of Women
Uhh, you're not the Barbara originally from Tejas, who up and deserted
us T.A.B.-ers a few years back for the north country, are ya? Gale
Harris (she and Ron post here occasionally) is now the head of the
North Chapter of the Hanta Youin, the local ladies buckskinner group
may well be worth contacting for some ideas. Some of the things
they've done in way of retribution to menfolk crashin' their doins is
pretty intimidating.
On Wed, 17 Mar 1999 20:02:05 -0800, you wrote:
>Pat,
>The one in 1996 was held on Mt. Rainier in Washington. Where are you
>located?
>
>As for men sneaking in, I heard that a flatlander out hiking happened to
>stumble upon the camp. It was a hot July day, and the gals was all just
>traipsing about in chemises, some of them wet from swimming. Margaret
>said he nearly had a heart attack! Don't think sentries would be
>necessary, we'd just scare 'em to death! I told Margaret we ought to
>let in any man who'se willing to cross-dress female, and abide by our
>Mountain Women Rules. (We're working on those rules. Think something
>like full-body shaving with a straight razor might be in order.)
>
>On another note, the lube discussion is very interesting. I'd love to
>know more about this all-natural lube Kinjano has. Thank you much for
>posting all the information about the various brands out there, Hawk.
>I'm a bit confused, though. Was that YOUR speech, or did you raid that
>from somewhere? Anyway, bottom line, are you recommending I use my
>"Natural Ice Mentholated Lipbalm (SPF 14)" for patch lube, or are you
>telling me that I'm gonna get asphalt build up in my rifle if I do?
>
>AND, does anyone have a source of historic documentation as to the
>contents of patch lube used in the early 19th century? I'm not against
>making my own, if that's a better solution. God knows I've got plenty
>of chapstick! If there's a recipe to be had, someone please share it.
>
>Yer Most Disobedient Servant,
>-Barbara, aka Tassee, Ticky Eena, and Miss Letitia Work
>
>
Roy Parker, Buckskinner, Brewer, Blacksmith and other "B"'s, including =
"BS".
1999 SW Rendezvous info available at http://www.sat.net/~robenhaus
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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 05:20:53 GMT
From: rparker7@ix.netcom.com (Roy Parker)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: prices of goods in st.louis around 1800
Muffin takes a can of worms in hand, and promptly opens them....
Traphand, I don't have a real good reply for you. I _think_ Ft. Clark
is a rename/nickname of Kaskaskia due to Clark's capturing of the
town. I don't know where I read this, just sticks in my mind, and
only post this because I saw no other response to your request. I do
not claim to be right.
May I suggest you also post your request for more info on the
moderated newsgroup soc.history.war.us-revolution on Usenet? A few of
the folks who follow that group seem to be very knowlegable in their
comments and are willing to cite references for their
statements/conclusions. =20
I've only lurked on the group for 2-3 weeks. But this may well be a
very good source of info, especially for those more interested in the
Rev War/Longhunter era. The charter of the group (I'm quoting from
memory-pull the charter for exact phrasing) states they will consider
for discussion topics/issues from the early 1700s through the 1860's
so long as part of/main thrust has bearing on the Revolutionary
period. =20
(There is also a newsgroup called soc.history.war.us-civilwar which I
have been lurking for references to the later part of the fur trade,
but so far nothing of interest.)
Best wishes.
On Sun, 14 Mar 1999 00:09:57 EST, you wrote:
>doing a paper on what it was like in st.louis around the early 1800. I'm=
still
>looking=20
>for account books from general stores,blacksmiths,bill of lading from
>keelboats and est,I have some but others also would be helpful.timewise =
would
>be from 1785to 1820.anyone every hear of a town in missouri called New =
Diggers
>in 1813.Also anyone every hear of fort clark in kaskaskia ill.year would=
be
>1779.I got what is on the amm list already.
>
>
> thank you
> rick petzoldt
>
>traphand@aol.com
>
Roy Parker, Buckskinner, Brewer, Blacksmith and other "B"'s, including =
"BS".
1999 SW Rendezvous info available at http://www.sat.net/~robenhaus
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 00:56:38 EST
From: Casapy123@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 18:27:03 -0800
John C. Funk, Jr.
You are a bold man, my friend. While I totally agree with your comments, I
don't have the heart to receive the flaming you will get. You on the other
hand, have two hearts. Good thing!
Jim Hardee, AMM#1676
P.O. Box 1228
Quincy, CA 95971
(530)283-4566 (H)
(530)283-3330 (W)
(530)283-5171 FAX
Casapy123@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 00:57:33 -0800
From: tigrbo1 <tigrbo1@ibm.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Tin ware
Greetings TrapRJoe,
The only way I've seen to keep your tin ware from rusting is to have your
cups, boilers, canteen and such made of tin lined copper, like I did.
Best regards,
Terry
TrapRJoe@aol.com wrote:
> This list has told us how to take care of our castiron so it won't rust
> while we're out, but how about Tin ware. How do you keep it from becoming a
> heap of rust?
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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 08:54:33 EST
From: KINJANO@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: A Gathering of Women
In a message dated 99-03-17 23:03:13 EST, you write:
<< I'd love to
know more about this all-natural lube Kinjano has. >>
Barb......... you must have me confused with someone else......... to date i
have only posted about the dugout cabin/shelter and our women's rendezvous
over here in n.w. ohio........... the lube is someonelse's discussion........
kinjano
(a.k.a. scary mary)
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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 08:51:48 -0700
From: jbrandl@wyoming.com (Joe Brandl)
Subject: MtMan-List: Discussions
Gentlemen and Ladies,
John's point was not made to offend anyone, period. It becomes rather
monotonous to see one line statements about Texas, or any other State. A
joke or two pertaining to history is funny now and then a quip or two is
great, but receiving 25 messages that are just chats get old. Save it for
the campfire or send it personal. This has developed into a close knit
group because of subject matter. Ask questions, provide answers, (thought
out one's) Share club news, point out living history events, advertize
quality historical items you may have or know where to find, debate
questionable historical events or items, but please know when enough chit
chat is enough. I believe if you got something important to say, say it,
otherwise just listen.
Thank you
Joe Brandl
Absaroka Western Designs and Tannery
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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 11:49:03 -0600
From: "Brian McNutt" <b_cory_mcnutt@email.msn.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: What was this book?????
As a wide eyed young un, I read a book, possibly by an European, about two
Trappers. One of the trappers got married at the book's end, and the writer
put himself in the book; he called himself "Two Shoots." I checked my local
library, but it wasn't there. Any help would be appreciated!
Brian
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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 11:25:50 PST
From: "Matthew Hawley" <nastybeaver@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Canadian Cap & rabiit fur
I don't know about the hat company. but the rabbit fur in moccasins i
do. With the on set of winter the indians started making winter clothes
so in order to keep warm they wanted fur. now rabbot fur is warm thick
and very soft so they would make rabbit lined mocs or blankets or mitts
to keep warm. hope this answears your ? ?
White
eagle
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>Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 19:35:52 -0700
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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 13:31:52 -0600
From: "Austin, Tim" <AustinT@doimex2.sill.army.mil>
Subject: MtMan-List: rabbit fur
Good information on the rabbit fur for the moccasins. What is the source?
I know several of the mountain men used buffalo fur to make moccasins, and a
trip of Indians in the west that made blankets of rabbit hides with fur
still on.
Thank you.
Tim Austin
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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 12:42:33 -0800
From: Butch <shabut@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: rabbit fur
Austin, Tim wrote:
>
> Good information on the rabbit fur for the moccasins. What is the source?
> I know several of the mountain men used buffalo fur to make moccasins, and a
> trip of Indians in the west that made blankets of rabbit hides with fur
> still on.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Tim Austin
Rabbit skin blankets are very warm, but I'd recommend you put the blanket
inside an envelope of cloth, etc. Rabbit skin with the fur on sheds
something awful. Good way to wake up with a big old mouthful of rabbit
fur.
These were used as baby blankets,too, IIRC.
Butch
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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 15:42:15 -0800
From: RANDAL J BUBLITZ <randybublitz@juno.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: What was this book?????
Brian, I believe that the book that you are looking for is entitled 'The
Rifleman' by John Brick. The copy which I have is copyright 1953, By
Doubleday & Co. , Inc., Garden City, NY . It was given to me by a good
friend. It's a good read. Hardtack
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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 18:51:34 -0500
From: "sean" <sean@peganet.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: Picture page
I have added a "List Only" page to my Ronnyvous site....
Anyone not having access to a web page and wanting to forward me pictures to
post in it for others to view, send them to me and I will put them on the
site. Be sure to send them in JPG format.... this is the smallest
graphic... Be sure to send a caption with it or what ever you want said ith
it...
The address is: www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Geyser/3216/HistList.htm
(nothing there yet.)
Addison Miller
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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 18:14:52 -0600
From: John Dearing <jdearing@mail.theriver.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: Re:
>
> >Having said that, it appears that the site has turned into a "chat" line =
> >for those who wish to exchange jokes, snide remarks and other assorted =
> >drivel, none of which is of any value to those of us who originally =
> >subscribed and who remain in the shadows waiting to pounce on anything =
> >resembling a pertinent, Fur Trade Era, exchange of historical =
> >information.
Instead of whining about the content of the messages, start a conversation
about a historical subject. Works for me. J.D.
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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 20:26:21 EST
From: GHickman@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 18:27:03 -0800
<< it appears that the site has turned into a "chat" line for those who wish
to exchange jokes, snide remarks and other assorted drivel, none of which is
of any value to those of us who originally subscribed and who remain in the
shadows waiting to pounce on anything resembling a pertinent, Fur Trade Era,
exchange of historical information. >>
Amen...I too am becoming very discouraged.
Ghosting Wolf
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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 19:21:13 -0700
From: jbrandl@wyoming.com (Joe Brandl)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Canadian Cap & rabiit fur
Some natives may have used rabbit for linings, but I find it hard to
believe that given almost any other type of fur or hide, that rabbit would
of been used much. Wild rabbit skin are paper thin, the fur mats easily,
thus loses insulation quality, take a lot of rabbits for a blanket.
Exception were the southwestern tribes that wove blankets with rabbit
skins.
Joe
Absaroka Western Designs and Tannery
Call us about our professional home tanning kit-307-455-2440
Write for custom tanning prices
We produce rawhide lampshades and carry a large selection of leather and
hair on robes
Fine lodgepole furniture, pillows, Indian reproductions, paintings, baskets
check out our new web site: http://www.onpages.com/absaroka
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 18:52:01 -0800
From: Frank <Buckskinner@gbis.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Discussions
Thank you!
I couldn't have said it better or with more grace and I _totally_ agree.
Medicine Bear
Joe Brandl wrote:
> Gentlemen and Ladies,
> John's point was not made to offend anyone, period. It becomes rather
> monotonous to see one line statements about Texas, or any other State. A
> joke or two pertaining to history is funny now and then a quip or two is
> great, but receiving 25 messages that are just chats get old. Save it for
> the campfire or send it personal. This has developed into a close knit
> group because of subject matter. Ask questions, provide answers, (thought
> out one's) Share club news, point out living history events, advertize
> quality historical items you may have or know where to find, debate
> questionable historical events or items, but please know when enough chit
> chat is enough. I believe if you got something important to say, say it,
> otherwise just listen.
> Thank you
> Joe Brandl
>
> Absaroka Western Designs and Tannery
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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 21:06:56 -0600
From: "Ratcliff" <rat@htcomp.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Discussions
- -----Original Message-----
From: Frank <Buckskinner@gbis.com>
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Date: Thursday, March 18, 1999 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Discussions
>Thank you!
>I couldn't have said it better or with more grace and I _totally_ =
agree.
>
>Medicine Bear
>
>Joe Brandl wrote:
> This has developed into a close knit
>> group because of subject matter.=20
What Joe said is essentially correct. However, I think that much of the =
close knit nature of this list is based more on friendships than subject =
matter. And friends overlook the slight imperfections in their friends. =
I don't seem much harm if a few people use the list in the manner =
described. I am sincerely sorry if anybody's sensibilities are tweaked =
by this, but when I see posts from people who generally bore me I stroke =
the "delete" command and forget it.=20
Not trying to stir up any crap, just giving my opinion.
Lanney Ratcliff
>>
>> Absaroka Western Designs and Tannery
>> Call us about our professional home tanning kit-307-455-2440
>> Write for custom tanning prices
>> We produce rawhide lampshades and carry a large selection of leather =
and
>> hair on robes
>> Fine lodgepole furniture, pillows, Indian reproductions, paintings, =
baskets
>> check out our new web site: http://www.onpages.com/absaroka
>
>
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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 21:23:56 -0600
From: "larry pendleton" <yrrw@cyberramp.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Discussions
Lanney I agree. No doubt I am more guilty than most. If I have offended
anyone I appologize. I am afraid it is just my nature to B.S. A very dear
friend of ours has the philosophy that, 'You ain't gonna get out of this
life alive so you might as well have some fun while your'e here." I figure
if we can have some fun and learn as much about history as is possible on
this list, then we are accomplishing some thing on both points. I will try
to keep a lid on the B.S. as much as I can in an effort to keep from
bothering the folks who don't believe that you can do both.
There are postings on the list everyday that I am not interested in. Like
you I know what the delete button is for.
Pendleton
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> From: Ratcliff <rat@htcomp.net>
> To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Discussions
> Date: Thursday, March 18, 1999 9:06 PM
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frank <Buckskinner@gbis.com>
> To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
> Date: Thursday, March 18, 1999 8:52 PM
> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Discussions
>
>
> >Thank you!
> >I couldn't have said it better or with more grace and I _totally_ agree.
> >
> >Medicine Bear
> >
> >Joe Brandl wrote:
> > This has developed into a close knit
> >> group because of subject matter.
>
> What Joe said is essentially correct. However, I think that much of the
close knit nature of this list is based more on friendships than subject
matter. And friends overlook the slight imperfections in their friends. I
don't seem much harm if a few people use the list in the manner described.
I am sincerely sorry if anybody's sensibilities are tweaked by this, but
when I see posts from people who generally bore me I stroke the "delete"
command and forget it.
> Not trying to stir up any crap, just giving my opinion.
> Lanney Ratcliff
> >>
> >> Absaroka Western Designs and Tannery
> >> Call us about our professional home tanning kit-307-455-2440
> >> Write for custom tanning prices
> >> We produce rawhide lampshades and carry a large selection of leather
and
> >> hair on robes
> >> Fine lodgepole furniture, pillows, Indian reproductions, paintings,
baskets
> >> check out our new web site: http://www.onpages.com/absaroka
> >
> >
>
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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 22:48:08 -0500
From: deforge1@wesnet.com (Dennis Miles)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Discussions
Hey all...
I may catch hell for this post down the road, well, so be it....Those what
know me, know I say what I think..
I really love this list, along with my Brothers & Friends that are
participants. Humor has a large part of our lives, in each day and
especially at the times on the trail that it really counts... Like when a
canoe swamps with lotsa $$$$ worth a gear in it, or when you get to the end
of a trail and discover that the only way down, asides from backtracking 10
miles is a 50' hell of a first step, and you toss your partner a rope and
says.."You First"..
Gentlemen, I don't know about y'all,( especially those that would prefer a
technically dry, humorless, impersonal list) but I prefer this to be like a
large campfire.... With folks from different locals, skill levels, and walks
of life's paths to get together and discuss and , God forbid, joke among
themselves.. Mebby share some and learn some things...
Hell, I do each day I turn this damn thing on.... But , if ya can't have
some fun doing it, why bother??...A delete button is an easy thing to
master...(ask privately, I'll teach you how to do it)
This list is a great asset to many people, AMM and not, and if we want to
converse occasionally or trade jabs... Why grouse?? Hell, my Dad always
told me"Keep your damn mouth shut boy, and listen between the words, ya may
learn something."
'Nuff said.
Respectfully
Dennis Miles
AMM #1622 Hiveranno
"Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e"
DOUBLE EDGE FORGE
Period Knives & Iron Accouterments
http://www.wesnet.com/deforge1
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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 21:50:28 -0600
From: "larry pendleton" <yrrw@cyberramp.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: HORNS
Ok guys a serious question. Where can I get really high quality cow horns?
I am talking about scrimshaw quality with good turns that will make Golden
Age period powder horns.
Pendleton
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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 22:55:13 -0500
From: deforge1@wesnet.com (Dennis Miles)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: HORNS
Larry..
The Log Cabin shop sometimes has some good 'ens.. It is in Lodi, Ohio
D
"Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e"
DOUBLE EDGE FORGE
Period Knives & Iron Accouterments
http://www.wesnet.com/deforge1
- -----Original Message-----
From: larry pendleton <yrrw@cyberramp.net>
To: mountain lists <hist_text@xmission.com>
Date: Thursday, March 18, 1999 10:49 PM
Subject: MtMan-List: HORNS
>Ok guys a serious question. Where can I get really high quality cow horns?
> I am talking about scrimshaw quality with good turns that will make Golden
>Age period powder horns.
>Pendleton
>
>
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