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hist_text-digest       Thursday, March 11 1999       Volume 01 : Number 253




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Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 19:40:01 -0700
From: "Barry Conner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: parched corn

http://www.teleport.com/~walking/clark/
- -----Original Message-----
From: sean <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Tuesday, March 09, 1999 3:27 AM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: parched corn


>Could you please send me the web site?  I missed it....
>
>[e-mail]
>
>Thanks.... :)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
>To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
>Date: Monday, March 08, 1999 11:24 PM
>Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: parched corn
>
>
>>Bob Spencer writes:
>>> Guess I'll have to 'fess up, Barry, I'm even cheaper.
>>
>>No one will disagree with that....specially them that knows ya.
>>
>>On the other hand, Buck sells some fine goods.  His barley grits makes a
>fine
>>trekkin breakfast and the millet flour makes some good hotcakes.  The
>yaller
>>peas are a delicacy when laced with a big chunk of fatback.  You really
owe
>it
>>to yourself to check out his website for some well researched period foods
>for
>>sale.
>>
>>Dave Kanger
>>
>>
>
>
>

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Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 19:54:37 -0700
From: "Barry Conner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: parched corn

Thank You.

Buck
- -----Original Message-----
From: F.Vital <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Tuesday, March 09, 1999 4:41 AM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: parched corn


>
>Bob Spencer wrote:
>
>> Ah, commerce rears its ugly head! <G> Didn't realize Buck had stuff for
>> sale, thought we were having a historical discussion.
>>
>> Maybe Buck can answer a question...since corn sells for plus or minus
$2.00
>> for a *bushel*, why is parched corn a bargain at $4.00 per *pound*? Just
>> the romance of it? I understand about paying for romance, but that's a
hell
>> of a lot of value added! <G>
>>
>
>Cause the utility companies charge for the energy used to parch the corn.
Plus
>someone has to stand there and stir the corn, and everyone figures that
their time
>is worth at least a couple of bucks.
>
>--
>Frank Vital
>Auburn University Mechanical Engineering Senior
>personal page: http://www.auburn.edu/~vitalfr/
>
>web master for: http://www.bpaccuracy.com
>
>
>

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Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 21:26:53 -0800
From: Roger Lahti <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: parched corn

Barry Conner wrote:

> d.
>
>    Yes Roger, blue parched corn is out of Mexico, sure there are several
> other corns native to the southwest, just so happens that the blue variety
> is what we can get in large quanities and is by far one of the more popular
> parched corns.

Buck,

Wasn't trying to work up a frackis over this, just adding what little I know to
the original short post. I  always appreciate the full story. Thanks for the
additional comemtary. I remain.....

YMOS
Capt. Lahti'

>

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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 04:27:31 PST
From: "Bill Jackson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: parched corn

Can I get some help on the proper powder charge for a 58 cal. North West
trade gun?
MadJack



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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 06:40:39 -0600
From: "larry pendleton" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: parched corn

Yep, Keep addin powder til ye cain't stand it no more. Then back off til ye
ears quit ringin. That'll bout doer.
Pendleton
- ----------
> From: Bill Jackson <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: parched corn
> Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 6:27 AM
>
> Can I get some help on the proper powder charge for a 58 cal. North West
> trade gun?
> MadJack
>
>
>
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 06:35:05 -0700
From: "Barry Conner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: parched corn

No problem, I always enjoy what you have to say. We all learn from each
other and hopefully no-one gets burned.

If everyone uses common sense and weights out what works for them, uses what
can improve things for their use, everyone is further ahead and had some
interesting reading too.

Thanks Roger

Buck

PS
Let's becareful with remarks like I just read about how much powder for a
.58 cal gun. Have seen a few mishaps from new shooters, one lost an eye, the
other has a useless right hand. Remember we all were green when starting on
this trail.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Roger Lahti <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Tuesday, March 09, 1999 10:30 PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: parched corn


>
>
>Barry Conner wrote:
>
>> d.
>>
>>    Yes Roger, blue parched corn is out of Mexico, sure there are several
>> other corns native to the southwest, just so happens that the blue
variety
>> is what we can get in large quanities and is by far one of the more
popular
>> parched corns.
>
>Buck,
>
>Wasn't trying to work up a frackis over this, just adding what little I
know to
>the original short post. I  always appreciate the full story. Thanks for
the
>additional comemtary. I remain.....
>
>YMOS
>Capt. Lahti'
>
>>
>
>
>

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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 08:13:18 -0600
From: "Paul Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: parched corn

Buck--- Having imported coffee, can agree that the profit and headache make
for a narrow margin.  Now I just save the effort and buy from you.

Keep up the good work, and thanks for the information.  Paul
- -----Original Message-----
From: Barry Conner <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Tuesday, March 09, 1999 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: parched corn


>OK boys,
>   "Ah, commerce rears its ugly head!" NO that's not it at all, I am not
>trying to sell you anything, just answering a question once in a while on
>edibles, culitivated and foraged.
>
>   Yes Roger, blue parched corn is out of Mexico, sure there are several
>other corns native to the southwest, just so happens that the blue variety
>is what we can get in large quanities and is by far one of the more popular
>parched corns.
>
>This is from one of our ads:
>    Blue parched corn is written about in early journals, and found on
trade
>lists from the French Fur Trade in the North to the Spanish settlements in
>the South, across the Mississippi Valley to the Pacific in the West. A
>Native American product that was found on most of the trade routes
>throughout the Louisiana Purchase and its territory.
>
>    Blue parched corn is roasted and then washed in a sea salt brine, (as
>done for centuries by Native Americans). Per references found in journals
>about Keaton, Boone, Bridger and others, this was done to make corn last
>longer.  It's also note worthy that they coarse ground their parched corn
>and mixed it with nuts, dried fruits and different sugars, depending on
what
>was available in their area.(probably ground as its easier on their palate
>and digestive systems).  A produce of Mexico's trade.
>
>   The four wholesalers of parched corn use a commerical coffee roaster to
>produce their products, parched corn is only one of several items roasted.
>The cost of fuel, electricity, labor and product material, packaging runs
>the cost up considerability, look at what coffee is going for. After a
>finished roast, blue corn is washed in a sea salt brine, left to dry, more
>time and handling, before its ever packaged. I've seen it as high as $4.75
>per pound, we have tried to keep its price down at $3.95, but some of the
>folks (dealers we sell to) still jack it up, sorry.  I really think another
>reason Bob as for the high price is two of the four roasters have had to
>been rebuilt after having fires from the dust of the parched corn,
>understand that's like $8500 a wack and guess who the cost is pasted on to,
>right. I buy 300-400 lbs. at a time to get the best price and make a deal
to
>the dealer and traders.  Look at coffee, it just keeps going up, don't know
>how much the market will bear.  The only romance is the money the
wholesaler
>gets, the farmer and the retailer don't see it.
>
>   Dave can tell you, there's very little profit in this business, with
>advertising, postage and phone bills, its touch and go. Would hate like
heck
>to try and make a living off of period edibles, hell the suppliers dry up
>quicker than some products that I have to trash, if it wasn't for the
>fellowship and friends we have made, like Dave and many of you others, I
>would have never started this business. Just so happened i knew a few
>sources and it grew from there, like anything one works with.  For example
I
>live in Colorado, work for the telephone company and was taking classes in
>Lisle IL, low and be hold a customer lived in that city, Dave Kanger. We
>started talking on e-mail and he was nice enought to pick me up and take me
>to a great group of folks that have a club near by, had a great evening
>visiting, if not for this little business it would never of happened, how
>can you put a price on that.  Sorry to get so long in a reply.
>
>Buck
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bob Spencer <[e-mail]>
>To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
>Date: Monday, March 08, 1999 9:40 PM
>Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: parched corn
>
>
>>>On the other hand, Buck sells some fine goods.  His barley grits makes a
>fine
>>>trekkin breakfast and the millet flour makes some good hotcakes.  The
>yaller
>>>peas are a delicacy when laced with a big chunk of fatback.  You really
>owe it
>>>to yourself to check out his website for some well researched period
foods
>for
>>>sale.
>>
>>Ah, commerce rears its ugly head! <G> Didn't realize Buck had stuff for
>>sale, thought we were having a historical discussion.
>>
>>Maybe Buck can answer a question...since corn sells for plus or minus
$2.00
>>for a *bushel*, why is parched corn a bargain at $4.00 per *pound*? Just
>>the romance of it? I understand about paying for romance, but that's a
hell
>>of a lot of value added! <G>
>>
>>I'll check out the site, TOF, thanks.
>>
>>Bob Spencer <[e-mail]>
>>non illegitimi carborundum est
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 09:26:28 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: parched corn

In a message dated 3/10/99 6:28:55 AM Central Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> Can I get some help on the proper powder charge for a 58 cal. North West
>  trade gun?

60 to 70 gr. of 3F will give you a good accurate load out to 50 yards.  Use a
patched .570 ball.  You may experience a fouling ring about a foot from the
muzzle under certain conditions which can be irritating at times.  If using
unpatched balls, be prepared to swab frequently, unless using a lubed wad.

OldFox

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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 08:45:21 -0600
From: "Ratcliff" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: parched corn or how to load a .58 tradegun

I find that about 2 tablespoons full of finely powdered, heavily roasted =
parched corn works best in my tradegun under a cylindrical projectile =
drilled from one of my ex-wife's biscuits...they're just to hard to make =
'em round.  No patch is needed, just a little lard on the biscuit to =
prevent damage to the bore.  Some of her cornbread, pounded to a =
suitable size, makes good birdshot if used with under and over wads =
whittled from her gravy.
Lanney Ratcliff
expert on the varied uses of parched corn and ex-wives
Bill
I hope you can take a joke.  Just funnin' you about the parched corn =
load.  However, if somebody doesn't change the subject line to "loads =
for .58 tradegun" pretty soon the humorless types that are lurking on =
the list will surely start bitching.
I use a pretty mild load (about 65 grains of fff) under a patched .590 =
roundball in my .62 for casual target shooting.  I haven't worked up a =
hunting load yet.
I would start with something lighter for you .58 and work up slowly =
until the accuracy and power of the load suits you.  Your gun will tell =
you what you need to know.
YMOS
Lanney
- -----Original Message-----
From: Bill Jackson <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 6:28 AM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: parched corn


>Can I get some help on the proper powder charge for a 58 cal. North =
West=20
>trade gun?
>MadJack
>
>
>
>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>

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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 09:42:41 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Dennis Miles)
Subject: MtMan-List: how to load a .58 tradegun

I like Lanny's idea...
I use 75-85 grains fff for my .62 for hunting, only had to trail one dear in
10 yrs with that load, sets 'em right off their feet.  Uncleaned tow for
patching for my roundball.
D

   "Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e"
          DOUBLE EDGE FORGE
  Period Knives & Iron Accouterments
    http://www.wesnet.com/deforge1
- -----Original Message-----
From: Ratcliff <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: parched corn or how to load a .58 tradegun


I find that about 2 tablespoons full of finely powdered, heavily roasted
parched corn works best in my tradegun under a cylindrical projectile
drilled from one of my ex-wife's biscuits...they're just to hard to make 'em
round.  No patch is needed, just a little lard on the biscuit to prevent
damage to the bore.  Some of her cornbread, pounded to a suitable size,
makes good birdshot if used with under and over wads whittled from her
gravy.
Lanney Ratcliff
expert on the varied uses of parched corn and ex-wives
Bill
I hope you can take a joke.  Just funnin' you about the parched corn load.
However, if somebody doesn't change the subject line to "loads for .58
tradegun" pretty soon the humorless types that are lurking on the list will
surely start bitching.
I use a pretty mild load (about 65 grains of fff) under a patched .590
roundball in my .62 for casual target shooting.  I haven't worked up a
hunting load yet.
I would start with something lighter for you .58 and work up slowly until
the accuracy and power of the load suits you.  Your gun will tell you what
you need to know.
YMOS
Lanney
- -----Original Message-----
From: Bill Jackson <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 6:28 AM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: parched corn


>Can I get some help on the proper powder charge for a 58 cal. North West
>trade gun?
>MadJack
>
>
>
>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>

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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 10:39:29 -0700
From: "Charlie P. Webb" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: parched corn

Must admit I am confused about these posts. :-)  I have never tried
to use parched corn as a main charge in one of my shooters.  How
fine do you grind it?  I am also interested in this process as the price
Buck quotes per pound is nearly half of what I normally pay for
Black. Buck do you offer ffg and fffg parched corn? How about
ffffg for priming flinters? <<<GGG>>>
A cornfused,
Old Coyote


On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 06:40:39 -0600 "larry pendleton" <[e-mail]>
writes:
>Yep, Keep addin powder til ye cain't stand it no more. Then back off
>til ye
>ears quit ringin. That'll bout doer.
>Pendleton
>----------
>> From: Bill Jackson <[e-mail]>
>> To: [e-mail]
>> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: parched corn
>> Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 6:27 AM
>>
>> Can I get some help on the proper powder charge for a 58 cal. North
>West
>> trade gun?
>> MadJack
>>
>>
>>
>> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>
>

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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 09:49:21 PST
From: "Bill Jackson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: how to load a .58 tradegun

aye, no harm taken here, been around to many camps to be offended by
this little humor. I got my trade gun from Curly, who used to own North
Star trade guns. I want to learn how to shoot the trade right.
Madjack



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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 09:52:11 -0800
From: Roger Lahti <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: parched corn/TG load

Bill Jackson wrote:

> Can I get some help on the proper powder charge for a 58 cal. North West
> trade gun?
> MadJack

MadJack,

Start with about 60 grains of parched corn and work up and down from there.
70-80 grains ought to be tops and just below 60 ought to be bottom. Blue
corn seems to be the favorite but the reds and chinmarks will work and I
have some that is dang near black that should work but never tried it. Parch
it up in a skillet, oven, or corn popper and grind it up to what ever
fineness you want. Seems to go down better. <G>

Just funnin ya. In all seriousness, I have good luck with fffg in my Tulle'
(20 ga) with about a 70 gr. load so your .58 should do well in that range
too. Just work up a load like you would a rifle. What ever combination works
best in your gun. A bit over grain weight of powder per cal. seems to be a
good starting place. Good luck and let us know if you run into problems. I
remain.....

YMOS
Capt. Lahti'

>
>
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 13:26:44 -0500
From: L A Hazard <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Broken Hand Fitzpatrick

This is my first time posting to the list. I have enjoyed learning quite a
bit about what it was like to be a mountain man via many of the list
members discussions about doing things the way the original mountain men
did it.

What I am writing about is to ask a question. Do any of you have any
information regarding Broken Hand? He is my great,great,great Uncle. His
sister married into the McCarthy line from which my dad came.

I have read all of the material by Hafen and Carter that I could get my
hands on. As well as many other authors who have included bits and pieces
of his life and work.

I am currently working on two projects involving his life. One is a factual
updated biography, or as factual as history can be. After all, much of
history is interpreted through the eyes of the historian! I am especially
interested in examining any relationship between his death and the
beginning of the governments "final" attempts to "solve" the "Indian
problem" by waging war against them. This aspect is what the second project
is about. A  novel about something that has been a "rumor" within my family
for a long time. There were some in my family that had the belief that he
did NOT die from natural causes, i.e. pneumonia, but rather that he was
"removed" from the picture because as Indian Agent, he was against what
some in the government wanted to do. Remember, this was a time of growth
and expansion, with the Gold Rush and the desire to expand the railroads.
Within six months of his death, all hell broke loose. If none of the rumor
is true, it still makes for a great mystery novel!

Although I may not agree with his position in all aspects, (i.e. his desire
to absorb the Indians into mainstream society and to utilize military force
to assure their cooperation with the treaties being signed) I do believe he
wanted to make sure that the government held up their side of the treaties
as well. I believe it was his failed attempts to hold the government to
their word that resulted in his family questioning if there might have been
a conspiracy on the part of some to remove him.

Does anyone have any ideas about where I might find copies of his own
writings, esp his reports to the BIA? I am planning a trip to the Library
of Congress and would appreciate ANY help in narrowing down what sources to
pursue?

Thanks for your time and consideration of my request.

Louis A Hazard
1710 B Walker Aver
Greensboro, NC 27403
336-275-6761
[e-mail]

P.S. Anyone interested in pursuing this topic with me, I am more than happy
to share authorship. My goal is not to get some kind of credit for the
project, but rather to introduce Broken Hand to new generations. I must
have 3-4 dozen books that mention "the famous mountain man Thomas "Broken
Hand" Fitzpatrick" but never go into detail about WHY he is "famous."
Mention Kit Carson, and people all know the name, if not the man. Mention
Broken Hand, and hardly anyone knows who I am talking about.

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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 11:47:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Lee Newbill <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: parched corn n Trade guns

On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 [e-mail] wrote:
> 60 to 70 gr. of 3F will give you a good accurate load out to 50 yards.  Use a
> patched .570 ball.  You may experience a fouling ring about a foot from the
> muzzle under certain conditions which can be irritating at times.  If using
> unpatched balls, be prepared to swab frequently, unless using a lubed wad.
> OldFox

Boys... ya betta check the heading afore you start writing.  Trade guns
and loads ain't got nuttin to do with parched corn.

Subject headings are vital to going back later and retrieving worthwhile
discussions.

Regards

Lee Newbill of Viola, Idaho
NMLRA member 058863
email at [e-mail]
Keeper of the "Buckskins & Blackpowder!" Webpage
http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Gorge/7186

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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 13:43:48 -0700
From: "Sickler, Louis L" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: upbraid

See, we knew we we're going to get yelled at over this.....

> ----------
> From:     Lee Newbill
> Reply To:     [e-mail]
> Sent:     Wednesday, March 10, 1999 12:47
> To:     [e-mail]
> Subject:     Re: MtMan-List: Re: parched corn n Trade guns
>
> On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 [e-mail] wrote:
> > 60 to 70 gr. of 3F will give you a good accurate load out to 50 yards.
> Use a
> > patched .570 ball.  You may experience a fouling ring about a foot from
> the
> > muzzle under certain conditions which can be irritating at times.  If
> using
> > unpatched balls, be prepared to swab frequently, unless using a lubed
> wad.
> > OldFox
>
> Boys... ya betta check the heading afore you start writing.  Trade guns
> and loads ain't got nuttin to do with parched corn.
>
> Subject headings are vital to going back later and retrieving worthwhile
> discussions.
>
> Regards
>
> Lee Newbill of Viola, Idaho
> NMLRA member 058863
> email at [e-mail]
> Keeper of the "Buckskins & Blackpowder!" Webpage
> http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Gorge/7186
>
>
>

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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 18:28:08 -0600
From: "Ratcliff" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: how to load a .58 tradegun

Good.  Sometimes I just can't help myself.  Maybe we can share a =
campfire and perhaps a jug sometime and swap stories. =20
Lanney
- -----Original Message-----
From: Bill Jackson <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: how to load a .58 tradegun


>aye, no harm taken here, been around to many camps to be offended by=20
>this little humor. I got my trade gun from Curly, who used to own North =

>Star trade guns. I want to learn how to shoot the trade right.
>Madjack
>
>
>
>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>

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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 19:50:51 -0600
From: "McKee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: upbraid

Some people you could'nt please if you hung um with a new rope.  Regards:
Long John
- -----Original Message-----
From: Sickler, Louis L <[e-mail]>
To: '[e-mail]' <[e-mail]>
Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 2:56 PM
Subject: MtMan-List: upbraid


>See, we knew we we're going to get yelled at over this.....
>
>> ----------
>> From: Lee Newbill
>> Reply To: [e-mail]
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 12:47
>> To: [e-mail]
>> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: parched corn n Trade guns
>>
>> On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 [e-mail] wrote:
>> > 60 to 70 gr. of 3F will give you a good accurate load out to 50 yards.
>> Use a
>> > patched .570 ball.  You may experience a fouling ring about a foot from
>> the
>> > muzzle under certain conditions which can be irritating at times.  If
>> using
>> > unpatched balls, be prepared to swab frequently, unless using a lubed
>> wad.
>> > OldFox
>>
>> Boys... ya betta check the heading afore you start writing.  Trade guns
>> and loads ain't got nuttin to do with parched corn.
>>
>> Subject headings are vital to going back later and retrieving worthwhile
>> discussions.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Lee Newbill of Viola, Idaho
>> NMLRA member 058863
>> email at [e-mail]
>> Keeper of the "Buckskins & Blackpowder!" Webpage
>> http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Gorge/7186
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 19:03:36 -0700
From: "Barry Conner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Re: special grinds and such

Charlie,

If ground carefully you can get a true FFF powder out of blue parched corn,
and if you like I'll tell you where to pack it <<<GGG>>>, I'm sure it won't
be the first time you were told that, seeing how you are dealing with the
members of the Colorado State Muzzle Association now. I would be told where
to put it several times a year after a Board Meeting, isn't it fun all the
baloney we get ourselves into.

One serious note, we all have a good time with what Dean has setup, lets try
and make his job as easy as possible, with correct "subject titles", he's
very busy with several other issues, web sites, etc. and doesn't have time
to wet nurse us too.

One other thing please be careful with replies where someone may just try
what is suggested being new to the sport or whatever, we get enough bad
press as it is with the anti- everybodies. Don't need to give them fuel to
help these groups with their daily attacks, sad but true, they'll turn any
and everything possible around to their benefit. Was on the NRA Whittington
Board for a period, the cramp that we would see being said would make any of
you sick.  Sorry for getting on the soap-box.

Buck


- -----Original Message-----
From: Charlie P. Webb <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: parched corn


>Must admit I am confused about these posts. :-)  I have never tried
>to use parched corn as a main charge in one of my shooters.  How
>fine do you grind it?  I am also interested in this process as the price
>Buck quotes per pound is nearly half of what I normally pay for
>Black. Buck do you offer ffg and fffg parched corn? How about
>ffffg for priming flinters? <<<GGG>>>
>A cornfused,
>Old Coyote
>
>
>On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 06:40:39 -0600 "larry pendleton" <[e-mail]>
>writes:
>>Yep, Keep addin powder til ye cain't stand it no more. Then back off
>>til ye
>>ears quit ringin. That'll bout doer.
>>Pendleton
>>----------
>>> From: Bill Jackson <[e-mail]>
>>> To: [e-mail]
>>> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: parched corn
>>> Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 6:27 AM
>>>
>>> Can I get some help on the proper powder charge for a 58 cal. North
>>West
>>> trade gun?
>>> MadJack
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>>
>>
>

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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 20:14:46 -0600
From: "Jody Carlson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: Snapsacks?

Members of the MtManList;

Are any of you familiar with a carrying instrument called a 'snapsack'?  I
am curious as to it's construction, appearance, and authenticity.  Perhaps
a picture on someone website?

Any information would be greatly appreciated.  In advance I thank you, and
rest assured I remain,...

YMHOS,

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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 20:38:50 -0600
From: "Ratcliff" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Snapsacks?

Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary lists the following:

SNAP'SACK, n.  A knapsack. [Vulgar.]

KNAP'SACK, n. nap'sack.  A soldier's bag, carried on his back, and =
containing necessaries of food and clothing.  It may be of leather or =
coarse cloth.

I hope this helps, at least a little.
Lanney Ratcliff

=20
- -----Original Message-----
From: Jody Carlson <[e-mail]>
To: MtManList <[e-mail]>
Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 8:17 PM
Subject: MtMan-List: Snapsacks?


>Members of the MtManList;
>
>Are any of you familiar with a carrying instrument called a 'snapsack'? =
 I
>am curious as to it's construction, appearance, and authenticity.  =
Perhaps
>a picture on someone website?
>
>Any information would be greatly appreciated.  In advance I thank you, =
and
>rest assured I remain,...
>
>YMHOS,
>

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Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 06:54:54 -0700 (MST)
From: [e-mail] (BRUCE S. DE LIS)
Subject: MtMan-List: Parched Corn Recipes

Someone mentioned the other day that this "Parched Corn" was
so easy to do, and there was little work involved in making
Parched Corn.

So could you share the Recipe.

B

- --
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     Is Not Free"

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