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hist_text-digest     Thursday, September 24 1998     Volume 01 : Number 143




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Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 04:58:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Sam Keller <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: more on fires

If you do, be sure to stand clear. The "Mouse(sic)" in their hair may
burn like crazy. Cheaper to just shoot them.




- ---Lanney Ratcliff <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> Allen
> My step-daughter has brought home a few of those pierced nose,
shaved head
> punks that I would gladly started a fire with...offered to with a
couple of
> them.
> Lanney
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Allen Chronister <[e-mail]>
> To: chat <[e-mail]>
> Date: Tuesday, September 22, 1998 11:03 AM
> Subject: MtMan-List: more on fires
>
>
> >More on firemaking.  Someone questioned how much
> >char cloth would be needed to start 3 fires a day
> >for extended periods of time.  Someone else very
> >correctly noted that once a fire is started it
> >need not be put out as long as camp stays in the
> >same place.  This is certainly the practice when
> >we camp, and it is reflected in period journals.
> >O. Russell stated that the jobs of a camp keeper
> >(his original job description) included guarding
> >horses, cooking and keeping the fires going (p.
> >51).
> >John Kirk Townsend described drying meat, during
> >which time the fire was "going constantly."  (p.
> >106)
> >I also found another reference to making fire.
> >David Meriweather mentioned striking fire with
> >flint and steel and "some punk we had taken with
> >us."  (p. 59).  "Punk" of course probably means
> >charred plant material, not some guy with a
> >pierced nose, shaved head and a motorcycle jacket.
> >Allen Chronister
> >
>
>
>

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Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 08:04:46 -0500
From: "K. Carpenter" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Powders...

Michael Pierce wrote:

> i FORGOT TO WARN A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT IN MY EXPERIENCE ABOUT 50 % OF
> THE oLD BARRELS  THAT I HAVE UNBREACHED HAVE BEEN LOADED WITH POWDER AND
> BALL---BE SURE TO CHECK THE BARREL BEFORE APPLYING HEAT TO THE BREACH
> PLUG---
>
> YOU COULD HURT SOMEONE OR SOME THING---ALWAYS CHECK TO MAKE SURE OLD
> BARREL IS NOT LOADED---USE A RAMROD OR A METAL ROD TO CHECK---CHECK
> PENITRATION TO THE BARREL LENGTH---
>

I'll share a story along these lines that, hopefully, may keep someone
safe.  Just a few years ago, two friends of mine were restoring some guns,
found in the basement of a grandfathers house of one of them.  They were a
Colt Walker, a Kentucky rifle, around .40 caliber and a percussion, side by
side shotgun, all originals.  The nipples on the shotgun were both
flattened, probably from being dry fired too many times.  In order to
attempt to back out the nipples for replacement, they began grinding them
flat, on a bench grinder, so an easy out could be used.  You guessed it, a
powder charge, still in the gun, discharged and sent a load of buckshot into
the wall of the workshop.  Fortunately, they were practicing good firearm
safety and not pointing the muzzle at anyone.  This may have been more luck
than anything else.  Just something to keep in mind.

Carp

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Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 19:56:53 -0400
From: "Addison Miller" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: more on fires

heh... I usually made it a habit of cleaning all my BP rifles when my
daughter brought her boyfriends over.  Funny thing.... never say many of
them more than once... Musta been because I had my stone and most of my BIG
knives layin beside the rifles... Ya think ??

Seanbear
- -----Original Message-----
From: Lanney Ratcliff <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Tuesday, September 22, 1998 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: more on fires


>Allen
>My step-daughter has brought home a few of those pierced nose, shaved head
>punks that I would gladly started a fire with...offered to with a couple of
>them.
>Lanney
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Allen Chronister <[e-mail]>
>To: chat <[e-mail]>
>Date: Tuesday, September 22, 1998 11:03 AM
>Subject: MtMan-List: more on fires
>
>
>>More on firemaking.  Someone questioned how much
>>char cloth would be needed to start 3 fires a day
>>for extended periods of time.  Someone else very
>>correctly noted that once a fire is started it
>>need not be put out as long as camp stays in the
>>same place.  This is certainly the practice when
>>we camp, and it is reflected in period journals.
>>O. Russell stated that the jobs of a camp keeper
>>(his original job description) included guarding
>>horses, cooking and keeping the fires going (p.
>>51).
>>John Kirk Townsend described drying meat, during
>>which time the fire was "going constantly."  (p.
>>106)
>>I also found another reference to making fire.
>>David Meriweather mentioned striking fire with
>>flint and steel and "some punk we had taken with
>>us."  (p. 59).  "Punk" of course probably means
>>charred plant material, not some guy with a
>>pierced nose, shaved head and a motorcycle jacket.
>>Allen Chronister
>>
>
>

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Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 20:26:51 -0400
From: Linda Holley <[e-mail]>
Subject: MtMan-List: guns in the house

Unfortunately, when I bring my boyfriends home for the first time, they see the
guns on the walls, knives on the fireplace, tipi furnishings all over and then
say good-bye.  Cannot find a decent man who understands me or my weapons or my
camping style, or the strange smell of smoked buckskin in the air.  So what if
my favorite Glade stick is Ode-de-smoked-skin.  Isn't there anyone out there
that understands me?????

Linda Holley     ........except you guys.


Addison Miller wrote:

> heh... I usually made it a habit of cleaning all my BP rifles when my
> daughter brought her boyfriends over.  Funny thing.... never say many of
> them more than once... Musta been because I had my stone and most of my BIG
> knives layin beside the rifles... Ya think ??
>
> Seanbear
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lanney Ratcliff <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
> Date: Tuesday, September 22, 1998 7:19 PM
> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: more on fires
>
> >Allen
> >My step-daughter has brought home a few of those pierced nose, shaved head
> >punks that I would gladly started a fire with...offered to with a couple of
> >them.
> >Lanney
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Allen Chronister <[e-mail]>
> >To: chat <[e-mail]>
> >Date: Tuesday, September 22, 1998 11:03 AM
> >Subject: MtMan-List: more on fires
> >
> >
> >>More on firemaking.  Someone questioned how much
> >>char cloth would be needed to start 3 fires a day
> >>for extended periods of time.  Someone else very
> >>correctly noted that once a fire is started it
> >>need not be put out as long as camp stays in the
> >>same place.  This is certainly the practice when
> >>we camp, and it is reflected in period journals.
> >>O. Russell stated that the jobs of a camp keeper
> >>(his original job description) included guarding
> >>horses, cooking and keeping the fires going (p.
> >>51).
> >>John Kirk Townsend described drying meat, during
> >>which time the fire was "going constantly."  (p.
> >>106)
> >>I also found another reference to making fire.
> >>David Meriweather mentioned striking fire with
> >>flint and steel and "some punk we had taken with
> >>us."  (p. 59).  "Punk" of course probably means
> >>charred plant material, not some guy with a
> >>pierced nose, shaved head and a motorcycle jacket.
> >>Allen Chronister
> >>
> >
> >

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Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 19:27:52 -0500
From: "Lanney Ratcliff" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: more on fires

Lots of things worked pretty good.  About the best, however, was when they
realized that I am licensed to carry a concealed handgun and the handgun I
habitually carry is a big Ruger D/A Automatic in .45ACP.  One of them asked
if he could "touch it".  I told him he would need a note from his mother.
Lanney
- -----Original Message-----
From: Addison Miller <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Wednesday, September 23, 1998 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: more on fires


>heh... I usually made it a habit of cleaning all my BP rifles when my
>daughter brought her boyfriends over.  Funny thing.... never say many of
>them more than once... Musta been because I had my stone and most of my BIG
>knives layin beside the rifles... Ya think ??
>
>Seanbear
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Lanney Ratcliff <[e-mail]>
>To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
>Date: Tuesday, September 22, 1998 7:19 PM
>Subject: Re: MtMan-List: more on fires
>
>
>>Allen
>>My step-daughter has brought home a few of those pierced nose, shaved head
>>punks that I would gladly started a fire with...offered to with a couple
of
>>them.
>>Lanney
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Allen Chronister <[e-mail]>
>>To: chat <[e-mail]>
>>Date: Tuesday, September 22, 1998 11:03 AM
>>Subject: MtMan-List: more on fires
>>
>>
>>>More on firemaking.  Someone questioned how much
>>>char cloth would be needed to start 3 fires a day
>>>for extended periods of time.  Someone else very
>>>correctly noted that once a fire is started it
>>>need not be put out as long as camp stays in the
>>>same place.  This is certainly the practice when
>>>we camp, and it is reflected in period journals.
>>>O. Russell stated that the jobs of a camp keeper
>>>(his original job description) included guarding
>>>horses, cooking and keeping the fires going (p.
>>>51).
>>>John Kirk Townsend described drying meat, during
>>>which time the fire was "going constantly."  (p.
>>>106)
>>>I also found another reference to making fire.
>>>David Meriweather mentioned striking fire with
>>>flint and steel and "some punk we had taken with
>>>us."  (p. 59).  "Punk" of course probably means
>>>charred plant material, not some guy with a
>>>pierced nose, shaved head and a motorcycle jacket.
>>>Allen Chronister
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 21:16:17 -0400
From: "Thomas H. Harbold" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: guns in the house

At 8:26 PM -0400 9/23/98, Linda Holley wrote:
>Unfortunately, when I bring my boyfriends home for the first time, they
>see the
>guns on the walls, knives on the fireplace, tipi furnishings all over and then
>say good-bye.  Cannot find a decent man who understands me or my weapons or my
>camping style, or the strange smell of smoked buckskin in the air.  So what if
>my favorite Glade stick is Ode-de-smoked-skin.  Isn't there anyone out there
>that understands me?????
>
>Linda Holley     ........except you guys.


Darnit, Linda, why'd ya hafta say "except you guys"??? Shoot, I've been
*lookin'* for a woman who likes guns & knives & stuff, for years!!!
***siiiiigh...***

;-)

Yr most humble, &c.,

Thomas

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Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:51:22 -0400
From: "Addison Miller" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: guns in the house

hehe... You KNOW I understand, Linda :))  Went to the shed today to get
stuff like lanterns, etc...forthis lil hurricane thats coming.  Opened a
chest, and this most    WONDERFUL smell of camp smoke rolled out!!!  Going
to Highalnd Games in Tallahassee just to be at a camp :))

Addison and Mouse
- -----Original Message-----
From: Linda Holley <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Wednesday, September 23, 1998 8:21 PM
Subject: MtMan-List: guns in the house


>Unfortunately, when I bring my boyfriends home for the first time, they see
the
>guns on the walls, knives on the fireplace, tipi furnishings all over and
then
>say good-bye.  Cannot find a decent man who understands me or my weapons or
my
>camping style, or the strange smell of smoked buckskin in the air.  So what
if
>my favorite Glade stick is Ode-de-smoked-skin.  Isn't there anyone out
there
>that understands me?????
>
>Linda Holley     ........except you guys.
>
>
>Addison Miller wrote:
>
>> heh... I usually made it a habit of cleaning all my BP rifles when my
>> daughter brought her boyfriends over.  Funny thing.... never say many of
>> them more than once... Musta been because I had my stone and most of my
BIG
>> knives layin beside the rifles... Ya think ??
>>
>> Seanbear
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Lanney Ratcliff <[e-mail]>
>> To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
>> Date: Tuesday, September 22, 1998 7:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: more on fires
>>
>> >Allen
>> >My step-daughter has brought home a few of those pierced nose, shaved
head
>> >punks that I would gladly started a fire with...offered to with a couple
of
>> >them.
>> >Lanney
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: Allen Chronister <[e-mail]>
>> >To: chat <[e-mail]>
>> >Date: Tuesday, September 22, 1998 11:03 AM
>> >Subject: MtMan-List: more on fires
>> >
>> >
>> >>More on firemaking.  Someone questioned how much
>> >>char cloth would be needed to start 3 fires a day
>> >>for extended periods of time.  Someone else very
>> >>correctly noted that once a fire is started it
>> >>need not be put out as long as camp stays in the
>> >>same place.  This is certainly the practice when
>> >>we camp, and it is reflected in period journals.
>> >>O. Russell stated that the jobs of a camp keeper
>> >>(his original job description) included guarding
>> >>horses, cooking and keeping the fires going (p.
>> >>51).
>> >>John Kirk Townsend described drying meat, during
>> >>which time the fire was "going constantly."  (p.
>> >>106)
>> >>I also found another reference to making fire.
>> >>David Meriweather mentioned striking fire with
>> >>flint and steel and "some punk we had taken with
>> >>us."  (p. 59).  "Punk" of course probably means
>> >>charred plant material, not some guy with a
>> >>pierced nose, shaved head and a motorcycle jacket.
>> >>Allen Chronister
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>
>
>
>

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Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:55:36 -0400
From: "Addison Miller" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: more on fires

<ROFL> I know this isn't specific to the Mountain Men... but it sure brings
back some memories....

SeanBear
- -----Original Message-----
From: Lanney Ratcliff <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Wednesday, September 23, 1998 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: more on fires


>Lots of things worked pretty good.  About the best, however, was when they
>realized that I am licensed to carry a concealed handgun and the handgun I
>habitually carry is a big Ruger D/A Automatic in .45ACP.  One of them asked
>if he could "touch it".  I told him he would need a note from his mother.
>Lanney
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Addison Miller <[e-mail]>
>To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
>Date: Wednesday, September 23, 1998 6:55 PM
>Subject: Re: MtMan-List: more on fires
>
>
>>heh... I usually made it a habit of cleaning all my BP rifles when my
>>daughter brought her boyfriends over.  Funny thing.... never say many of
>>them more than once... Musta been because I had my stone and most of my
BIG
>>knives layin beside the rifles... Ya think ??
>>
>>Seanbear
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Lanney Ratcliff <[e-mail]>
>>To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
>>Date: Tuesday, September 22, 1998 7:19 PM
>>Subject: Re: MtMan-List: more on fires
>>
>>
>>>Allen
>>>My step-daughter has brought home a few of those pierced nose, shaved
head
>>>punks that I would gladly started a fire with...offered to with a couple
>of
>>>them.
>>>Lanney
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Allen Chronister <[e-mail]>
>>>To: chat <[e-mail]>
>>>Date: Tuesday, September 22, 1998 11:03 AM
>>>Subject: MtMan-List: more on fires
>>>
>>>
>>>>More on firemaking.  Someone questioned how much
>>>>char cloth would be needed to start 3 fires a day
>>>>for extended periods of time.  Someone else very
>>>>correctly noted that once a fire is started it
>>>>need not be put out as long as camp stays in the
>>>>same place.  This is certainly the practice when
>>>>we camp, and it is reflected in period journals.
>>>>O. Russell stated that the jobs of a camp keeper
>>>>(his original job description) included guarding
>>>>horses, cooking and keeping the fires going (p.
>>>>51).
>>>>John Kirk Townsend described drying meat, during
>>>>which time the fire was "going constantly."  (p.
>>>>106)
>>>>I also found another reference to making fire.
>>>>David Meriweather mentioned striking fire with
>>>>flint and steel and "some punk we had taken with
>>>>us."  (p. 59).  "Punk" of course probably means
>>>>charred plant material, not some guy with a
>>>>pierced nose, shaved head and a motorcycle jacket.
>>>>Allen Chronister
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 06:21:32 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: guns in the house

Keep looking and be patient.  I met my fiancee at the NMLRA spring shoot.

Red Hawk

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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 07:27:34 -0500
From: Eli Kutzko <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: guns in the house

> Keep looking and be patient.  I met my fiancee at the NMLRA
spring shoot.
>
> Red Hawk

Agreed....  I'm new to the list, so I don't quite fall into the
gun-slinging reinactor category.  I was a professional
archaeologist for years.  Am now playing around with writing
historical fiction dealing with the fur trade (I'm a freelance
writer).  I have a man's name given to me by an all male crew I
bested at digging holes in the ground many, many seasons ago
(keep in mind that I'm 5'6" and 115 lb.).  No one has ever
mistaken me for being male in person however.  But being an
archaeologist, there are certain things that go with the trade.
You spend months living in tents and literally years living in
the middle of nowhere making it through the day by your wits.
My clothing style can best be described as functional.  If I'm
out in the rain, I smell like a mix of leather, smoke, and wet
sheep (lots of wool).  I am far more at home in the desert and
the mountains than I will ever be a town or city. There is that
permanent smoke smell that permeates everything I own.  My
library reeks of it because all of my books have done their
share of time in that atmosphere.  I helped another woman run an
archaeology professional services firm.  It was well known among
our friends and colleagues that we had more balls than most men
and would take our four-wheel drive trucks places most men
wouldn't go. Twelve miles of walking is a nice partial day
jaunt. I've been told that I when I get to swearing it would
make a sailor on a Turkish freighter blush.  While I don't have
any guns, I do have knives that make most men back off....

Point of all of this is that I met a fine man a few years ago
(oddly enough he worked in NPR at the time -- I don't consider
that the most outdoorsy, rough and ready profession) and have
been incredibly happily married for a couple of years now.  Men
who appreciate good strong women with character are out there.
Consider all the sensual smoke scent and hardware to be a weed
out factor.  You are getting rid of the ones who aren't going to
appreciate you anyway before things get too serious.  Any man
who backs off because of all this stuff wouldn't be equal to you
in the character and basic personal brawn department either.
Keep your eyes open.  They are out there....  as I'm sure all
the men on this list will agree.... ;o)

Eli


~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~
Eli Kutzko    <[e-mail]>

"Just once, I wish we would encounter an alien menace
that wasn't immune to bullets."  The Brigader (Dr. Who)

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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 09:26:07 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Michael Pierce)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: guns in the house

linda ---we is a dieing breed----and darn few of us left---glad you is
one of us---jenny says my skins should be put put in a cage in the
garage---only have 12 or 15 years of character on them---Every time i
look at them i remember the shinning times---going to have to make a new
pair in 10 or 12 years---

      "Hawk"
Michael Pierce
854 Glenfield Dr.
Palm Harbor, florida   34684
1-[phone]     E-MAIL ADDRESS: [e-mail]

On Wed, 23 Sep 1998 20:26:51 -0400 Linda Holley <[e-mail]>
writes:
>Unfortunately, when I bring my boyfriends home for the first time,
>they see the
>guns on the walls, knives on the fireplace, tipi furnishings all over
>and then
>say good-bye.  Cannot find a decent man who understands me or my
>weapons or my
>camping style, or the strange smell of smoked buckskin in the air.  So
>what if
>my favorite Glade stick is Ode-de-smoked-skin.  Isn't there anyone out
>there
>that understands me?????
>
>Linda Holley     ........except you guys.
>
>
>Addison Miller wrote:
>
>> heh... I usually made it a habit of cleaning all my BP rifles when
>my
>> daughter brought her boyfriends over.  Funny thing.... never say
>many of
>> them more than once... Musta been because I had my stone and most of
>my BIG
>> knives layin beside the rifles... Ya think ??
>>
>> Seanbear
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Lanney Ratcliff <[e-mail]>
>> To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
>> Date: Tuesday, September 22, 1998 7:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: more on fires
>>
>> >Allen
>> >My step-daughter has brought home a few of those pierced nose,
>shaved head
>> >punks that I would gladly started a fire with...offered to with a
>couple of
>> >them.
>> >Lanney
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: Allen Chronister <[e-mail]>
>> >To: chat <[e-mail]>
>> >Date: Tuesday, September 22, 1998 11:03 AM
>> >Subject: MtMan-List: more on fires
>> >
>> >
>> >>More on firemaking.  Someone questioned how much
>> >>char cloth would be needed to start 3 fires a day
>> >>for extended periods of time.  Someone else very
>> >>correctly noted that once a fire is started it
>> >>need not be put out as long as camp stays in the
>> >>same place.  This is certainly the practice when
>> >>we camp, and it is reflected in period journals.
>> >>O. Russell stated that the jobs of a camp keeper
>> >>(his original job description) included guarding
>> >>horses, cooking and keeping the fires going (p.
>> >>51).
>> >>John Kirk Townsend described drying meat, during
>> >>which time the fire was "going constantly."  (p.
>> >>106)
>> >>I also found another reference to making fire.
>> >>David Meriweather mentioned striking fire with
>> >>flint and steel and "some punk we had taken with
>> >>us."  (p. 59).  "Punk" of course probably means
>> >>charred plant material, not some guy with a
>> >>pierced nose, shaved head and a motorcycle jacket.
>> >>Allen Chronister
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>
>
>
>
>

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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 10:31:43 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Michael Pierce)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: guns in the house(annual meeting and cook out)

linda ---if this match making keeps up we may have to review some of my
single snake eater friends and see if any qualify for you--One chapter of
the special forces association  holds their only  meeting up close to
where you live ever october or november in the Ocalla national
forest---they have a big cook out and camp out there-and fairly close to
your area---probably a hr or hr and 1/2 drive-----bet we could get you a
invite to set up your tee--pee and such--  they will have the big
bondfire one night and memorial to fallen comrads at noon on
sunday---they have the campgrounds from friday thru sunday---good roads
to get to it and plenty of space--they had over 200 members there last
year-----they will be holding the meeting on a camp ground on a nice lake
and it is beautiful up there.  I hope I am back from making winter meat
by then---I missed it last year---there will be a lot of  "been there""
done that" "quite proffessionals" there.  most of the  members of that
chapter dont like orginization  and formality but they have one of the
best run picknicks-camp-outs ever----reminds me of roo'ing back in the
6o's.

I thank they would appreciate a primitative camp and tee-pee--BTW it is a
family affair and no one gets out of order--yet there are usually a few
singles there---some about our age---

I will contact them and see if I can get you a invite if you wish and
have them send you a info pack--overlay map and directions and
such---also will start forwarding Jacks saturday morning episal--darn
fine writeing---he is single and was one of the officers of the
organization---

contact me off-lineif you want  and I will send you details as i get
them---BTW---off to st louis about the 5th so will pick up the skins for
you then and see what we come up with---I know you want the buffilo---may
see you at the alifi and deliver it or may ship it by snail mail--also
have 8 or 10 smoke tans that we discussed---

BTW---ELI KUTZKO you interested in a walk about in arizona we hope to go
out next spring again and go to a Anasazi dwelling with over 200 rooms
- --have some pictures of one of the religious dwellings in that
area--there is also a lot of petriglips, and pottery chards in the
area-----it hasent been dug up---cant do any digging---on federal
ground--but plan on doing some documentation and pictures of the
area---closest we can get to it is about 15 miles and its a good walk
in--must carry in everything you need---good water close so dont have a
problem with that---  we found it about 2 years ago while prospecting in
the area---found a lot of low grade blue rock in the area will have the
camper there--probably have to build road again to get in there--contact
me offline if you are interested---dan and I are big into the anasazi
culture and such--want to put a article together about it--

      "Hawk"
Michael Pierce
854 Glenfield Dr.
Palm Harbor, florida   34684
1-[phone]     E-MAIL ADDRESS: [e-mail]

On Thu, 24 Sep 1998 07:27:34 -0500 Eli Kutzko <[e-mail]>
writes:
>> Keep looking and be patient.  I met my fiancee at the NMLRA
>spring shoot.
>>
>> Red Hawk
>
>Agreed....  I'm new to the list, so I don't quite fall into the
>gun-slinging reinactor category.  I was a professional
>archaeologist for years.  Am now playing around with writing
>historical fiction dealing with the fur trade (I'm a freelance
>writer).  I have a man's name given to me by an all male crew I
>bested at digging holes in the ground many, many seasons ago
>(keep in mind that I'm 5'6" and 115 lb.).  No one has ever
>mistaken me for being male in person however.  But being an
>archaeologist, there are certain things that go with the trade.
>You spend months living in tents and literally years living in
>the middle of nowhere making it through the day by your wits.
>My clothing style can best be described as functional.  If I'm
>out in the rain, I smell like a mix of leather, smoke, and wet
>sheep (lots of wool).  I am far more at home in the desert and
>the mountains than I will ever be a town or city. There is that
>permanent smoke smell that permeates everything I own.  My
>library reeks of it because all of my books have done their
>share of time in that atmosphere.  I helped another woman run an
>archaeology professional services firm.  It was well known among
>our friends and colleagues that we had more balls than most men
>and would take our four-wheel drive trucks places most men
>wouldn't go. Twelve miles of walking is a nice partial day
>jaunt. I've been told that I when I get to swearing it would
>make a sailor on a Turkish freighter blush.  While I don't have
>any guns, I do have knives that make most men back off....
>
>Point of all of this is that I met a fine man a few years ago
>(oddly enough he worked in NPR at the time -- I don't consider
>that the most outdoorsy, rough and ready profession) and have
>been incredibly happily married for a couple of years now.  Men
>who appreciate good strong women with character are out there.
>Consider all the sensual smoke scent and hardware to be a weed
>out factor.  You are getting rid of the ones who aren't going to
>appreciate you anyway before things get too serious.  Any man
>who backs off because of all this stuff wouldn't be equal to you
>in the character and basic personal brawn department either.
>Keep your eyes open.  They are out there....  as I'm sure all
>the men on this list will agree.... ;o)
>
>Eli
>
>
>~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~
>Eli Kutzko    <[e-mail]>
>
>"Just once, I wish we would encounter an alien menace
>that wasn't immune to bullets."  The Brigader (Dr. Who)
>
>
>

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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 09:14:35 -0500
From: "Ken" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: more on fires

Thanks Lanney,
When my daughter gets old enough to date I'll be "cleaning" my XM 15 E2S
and have my Ruger P-85 lying on the table as well! Like they say, a picture
is worth a thousand words!
YellowFeather

- ----------
> From: Lanney Ratcliff <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: more on fires
> Date: Wednesday, September 23, 1998 7:27 PM
>
> Lots of things worked pretty good.  About the best, however, was when
they
> realized that I am licensed to carry a concealed handgun and the handgun
I
> habitually carry is a big Ruger D/A Automatic in .45ACP.  One of them
asked
> if he could "touch it".  I told him he would need a note from his mother.
> Lanney
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Addison Miller <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
> Date: Wednesday, September 23, 1998 6:55 PM
> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: more on fires
>
>
> >heh... I usually made it a habit of cleaning all my BP rifles when my
> >daughter brought her boyfriends over.  Funny thing.... never say many of
> >them more than once... Musta been because I had my stone and most of my
BIG
> >knives layin beside the rifles... Ya think ??
> >
> >Seanbear
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Lanney Ratcliff <[e-mail]>
> >To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
> >Date: Tuesday, September 22, 1998 7:19 PM
> >Subject: Re: MtMan-List: more on fires
> >
> >
> >>Allen
> >>My step-daughter has brought home a few of those pierced nose, shaved
head
> >>punks that I would gladly started a fire with...offered to with a
couple
> of
> >>them.
> >>Lanney
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Allen Chronister <[e-mail]>
> >>To: chat <[e-mail]>
> >>Date: Tuesday, September 22, 1998 11:03 AM
> >>Subject: MtMan-List: more on fires
> >>
> >>
> >>>More on firemaking.  Someone questioned how much
> >>>char cloth would be needed to start 3 fires a day
> >>>for extended periods of time.  Someone else very
> >>>correctly noted that once a fire is started it
> >>>need not be put out as long as camp stays in the
> >>>same place.  This is certainly the practice when
> >>>we camp, and it is reflected in period journals.
> >>>O. Russell stated that the jobs of a camp keeper
> >>>(his original job description) included guarding
> >>>horses, cooking and keeping the fires going (p.
> >>>51).
> >>>John Kirk Townsend described drying meat, during
> >>>which time the fire was "going constantly."  (p.
> >>>106)
> >>>I also found another reference to making fire.
> >>>David Meriweather mentioned striking fire with
> >>>flint and steel and "some punk we had taken with
> >>>us."  (p. 59).  "Punk" of course probably means
> >>>charred plant material, not some guy with a
> >>>pierced nose, shaved head and a motorcycle jacket.
> >>>Allen Chronister
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>

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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 11:32:43 -0600 (CST)
From: [e-mail] (Henry B. Crawford)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: guns in house

>Thanks Lanney,
>When my daughter gets old enough to date I'll be "cleaning" my XM 15 E2S
>and have my Ruger P-85 lying on the table as well! Like they say, a picture
>is worth a thousand words!
>YellowFeather


Friends
I have two daughters, oldest being 11 going on 17.  I'd be inclined to do
likewise, except that you don't want the wrong type of boy to know about
the guns in the house, either.  It takes a bit of cautious judgement, I
think.  They will all get screened to a degree before the "gun shows"
begin.

Cheers,
HBC

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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 20:51:22 -0400
From: Linda Holley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: guns in the house

Gee guys, when I said "except you guys" it was with the understanding that all of
you knew where I was coming from, you do understand me.  Except  it is hard to tell
people what we do.  For men to tell the ladies, they understand your going out with
the boys for the weekend camp out.  With us girls it is, You are going where and
sleeping with whom in what cold bed in the middle of no where....not in this life
time.   Wives are more understanding of men who participate than the husbands.
Must be some kind of macho thing.  I do not really know.   But the last time I said
I was going out for the weekend with the boys... I came back to an empty house,
except for the two dogs.  They died.


Linda Holley


Thomas H. Harbold wrote:

> At 8:26 PM -0400 9/23/98, Linda Holley wrote:
> >Unfortunately, when I bring my boyfriends home for the first time, they
> >see the
> >guns on the walls, knives on the fireplace, tipi furnishings all over and then
> >say good-bye.  Cannot find a decent man who understands me or my weapons or my
> >camping style, or the strange smell of smoked buckskin in the air.  So what if
> >my favorite Glade stick is Ode-de-smoked-skin.  Isn't there anyone out there
> >that understands me?????
> >
> >Linda Holley     ........except you guys.
>
> Darnit, Linda, why'd ya hafta say "except you guys"??? Shoot, I've been
> *lookin'* for a woman who likes guns & knives & stuff, for years!!!
> ***siiiiigh...***
>
> ;-)
>
> Yr most humble, &c.,
>
> Thomas

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