<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Hi Frank and Gene, Thanks for the reply. Larry responded to me. Thanks to you two for your response. If I can get the pattern ready to go, I'll go that route. Otherwise I'll try to figure it out. Larry says he'll send me a pattern though. The local mission found out recently that the resident padre arranged for 3 russians to visit the Lompoc Mission from up North. The reason was to try to learn from them the science of windmill building. The Mission has a 'Candle Light ' tour every year. Folks come and explore the mission at night, and all sorts of scenerios are played out for the tour. George Thompson, Pat Quilter and I have been asked to portray the russian craftsmen. I'm trying to put together a believable outfit for this event. We'll have lots of fun, as we usually do when participating in Mission events. Check out some of the fun at this website; look under 'activities'. Thanks again, Randy</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" PTSIZE="10">here are some directions for a cap. If someone has already posted the directions, sorry for the repeat<BR><BR>frank sablan<BR>midland,texas<BR><BR><A href="http://www.northwestjournal.ca/XII3.htm">Making A Clerk's Cap</A> </FONT></FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 13:31:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: mike hodges <cannonball208@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: footwear
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Hey, Keith. Come in and welcome. If you've got a list of prices for elkskin, I'd be interested. Did you check out swrr list of rules for pilgrims. It's perty informative. I just started myself. Fun ain't it. Cannonball (Mike)
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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 14:47:12 -0700
From: "RP Lahti" <amm1719@charter.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: footwear
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Keith,
Welcome to the list. I'm sure others will have some good info/offerings =
for you but I'd like to put my spin on this subject of proper moc's.=20
You ask about "shoe packs" and whether they are proper for the Rocky Mt. =
Fur Trade era? The short answer is "probably not" since as I recall they =
are patterned off one pair found back east in a dig site. But as you =
have found, the other options aren't suitable for foot travel in the =
"Rockies". Keeping in mind that virtually all original participants in =
the RMFT era were mounted it's understandable how they got by so handily =
in the various soft sole moccasin styles. And there were many. Eastern =
Center Seam with and without a vamp. Side seam, tall and low cut. And =
many others. There are rawhide soled moc patterns that might have seen =
use in the American West but they are a desert moc where moisture isn't =
much of a concern. The point is that I believe folks made what they were =
familiar with. And that covers a lot of styles.
Your not going to see many people in center seam shoe packs like Mark =
favors but I personally do not see anything wrong with using them. That =
is "how you were taught" to make them by those you grew up with from =
wherever back east you came from and everyone except the native Indians =
came from back east. It would be expected that in time you would likely =
adopt the contemporary favorites or that might be the only style you =
could get the local Indian ladies to turn out for you or............... =
but at the moment your wearing what you know how to make and that is =
shoe packs.
Enough justification for ya? <G>
YMOS
Capt. Lahti'
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