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hist_text-digest       Saturday, July 17 2004       Volume 01 : Number 1377



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-áááááá RE: MtMan-List: Description of Saddlery in the Renwick  Exhibitio n
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Description of Saddlery in the Renwick  Exhibition
-áááááá MtMan-List: The Black Hills!

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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 15:22:56 -0600
From: "Henry B. Crawford" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Description of Saddlery in the Renwick  Exhibitio n

>
> Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 20:43:04 -0700
> From: Pat Quilter <[e-mail]>
> Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Description of Saddlery in the Renwick  Exhibitio n
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> There is a general principle of "fair use" that permits limited copying for
> non-commercial purposes, with no intent of personal profit (particularly
> when out of print). I'm no lawyer though.
> Pat Quilter.
>

Pat is right. The Fair Use doctrine is correct insofar as it applies to
educational uses only.  Individuals may copy *PORTIONS* of a publication or
manuscript for their own personal educational non-commercial uses.  In my
profession we have to think about copyright all the time.  Museums,
universities, libraries, and researchers often copy under the Doctrine of
Fair Use.  If information is published from the copied document, the
document is footnoted and cited as any other source would be.

Having a copy of a chapter of MMM for your own personal use and
enlightenment is A-OK.

HBC (aka Double Mountains)

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Henry B. Crawford
Curator of History
Museum of Texas Tech University
Box 43191
4th and Indiana
Lubbock, TX  79409-3191
[e-mail]
806/742-2442  FAX [phone]
Website: http://www.museum.ttu.edu
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 22:43:06 -0500
From: "Lanney Ratcliff" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Description of Saddlery in the Renwick  Exhibition

Hi Henry, good to see you on the list for the first time in a while.
Lanney


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From: "Henry B. Crawford" <[e-mail]>
To: "Fur Trade list" <[e-mail]>
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 4:22 PM
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Description of Saddlery in the Renwick Exhibition


> >
> > Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 20:43:04 -0700
> > From: Pat Quilter <[e-mail]>
> > Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Description of Saddlery in the Renwick
Exhibitio n
> >
> > There is a general principle of "fair use" that permits limited copying
for
> > non-commercial purposes, with no intent of personal profit (particularly
> > when out of print). I'm no lawyer though.
> > Pat Quilter.
> >
>
> Pat is right. The Fair Use doctrine is correct insofar as it applies to
> educational uses only.  Individuals may copy *PORTIONS* of a publication
or
> manuscript for their own personal educational non-commercial uses.  In my
> profession we have to think about copyright all the time.  Museums,
> universities, libraries, and researchers often copy under the Doctrine of
> Fair Use.  If information is published from the copied document, the
> document is footnoted and cited as any other source would be.
>
> Having a copy of a chapter of MMM for your own personal use and
> enlightenment is A-OK.
>
> HBC (aka Double Mountains)
>
> ***************************************
> Henry B. Crawford
> Curator of History
> Museum of Texas Tech University
> Box 43191
> 4th and Indiana
> Lubbock, TX  79409-3191
> [e-mail]
> 806/742-2442  FAX [phone]
> Website: http://www.museum.ttu.edu
> ***  Living History . . . Because It's There  ***
>
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Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 16:54:11 -0600 (MDT)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: MtMan-List: The Black Hills!

Dear List,
  My son and I just got back from our 1472 mile round-trip Black Hills
tour! The Black Hills are certainly wonderful and it's no wonder so many
Mountain Men and travelers only got this far. They are big enough
mountains for most any Mountain Man!
  I was pleasantly surprised to see oak trees growing among the pines in
our camp! The first oaks I have seen in years. Saw no elk or wild
turkeys but plenty of muley's.
  Found out Sturgis is named for a Captain who died with Custer at the
Little Bighorn while in Sturgis and visiting Old Fort Meade.

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?wp=gcg8yy&Submit6=Find

  But one of the neatest things we saw was the Vore Bison Jump just west
of Beulah, Wyoming! I've seen some of the greatest bison jumps in the
west but this one has got to be one of the most unusual. It is a small
sink hole not too big compared to the open prairie it sits on. It
actually fits between the frontage road and Highway 90. I was very
surprised how small it was. But it has the remains of 20,000 bison in
it! Worth seeing if you happen to be in Beulah Wyoming (pop 33)

http://www.sundancewyoming.com/vore.htm

http://www.casperstartribune.net/articles/2003/06/11/news/wyoming/240dd7ac129a45ebfe206398d42db0fc.txt

  I lived in Wyoming for three years and it was great seeing it so green
out and with the contrasting red dirt.  By time we got to northern
Wyoming just south of Billings Mt. it was the same old Wyoming I knew
and loved, hot, dry, dusty and windy! Must have been just shy of a 100
degrees when we took a hike up a sage brush covered hillside searching
for another geocache.

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?wp=gca708&Submit6=Find

     It was a fun trip and we finished off with a visit to the Custer
Battlefield. It was near a hundred degrees there too if not hotter
and it was easy to imagine those poor troopers sitting on top of
those ridges about dieing of thirst. IÆm most impressed by water
carriers ravine where 16 men volunteered to go down to the Little
Bighorn for water. IÆm sure those men drank as much as they could too
when they got there. With cover gunfire they retrieved water for the
rest of the men. 24 congressional Medals of Honor were awarded for
bravery at the Little Bighorn Battlefield. Those who fought there
where in one heck of an ordeal. All on the list must see this
incredible battlefield. It was my sonÆs first time there and my third
time there but I never get tired of seeing it. We found a cache there
as well.

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?wp=gc6f9e&Submit6=Find

  A nice painting inside the Battlefield museum is titled "After the
Battle" by J R Ralston  In it one Indian can be seen throwing his
flintlock tradegun aside as he grabs a new trapdoor carbine! I got a
chuckle out of that.
  Of course we viewed Mt. Rushmore too which my son really liked seeing.
Now I have to rent North by Northwest for us to watch the famous "faces"
scene.
  I hope the links work. Good to be home.
   bb



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