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To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com
Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #1361
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hist_text-digest Sunday, May 30 2004 Volume 01 : Number 1361
In this issue:
-áááááá MtMan-List: trumpline
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Tumpline defined
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Tumpline defined
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Tumpline defined
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Tumpline defined
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Just looking
-áááááá MtMan-List: BEWARE off topic
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Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 16:42:04 -0500
From: "Frank Fusco" <Rifleman1776@cox-internet.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: trumpline
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or burden strap which very you want to call it.
CC
Either way, I would still call it a headache. <G>
Frank
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Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 16:57:41 -0600 (MDT)
From: beaverboy@sofast.net
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Tumpline defined
> Maybe the words 'pack strap' would be more applicable if the original
> meaning is not used.
> YMOS
> Glenn Darilek
> Iron Burner
It's a tumpline not pack strap. Maybe I read that wrong, but why change
terms. I've been reading about this era for 20+ years and have never
even heard other terms for it like "burden strap" or "hoppis"? I have
never heard of a tumpline being worn across the chest either.
The late great outdoor writer Calvin Rustrum, who forgot more about
tumplines then all on the list compined, talks a lot about tumplines. He
once met a Cree Indian on a portage trail that was tumplining a cast
iron stove on his back and a five gallon jerry can of kerosene in each
arm. Rutsrum said the Indian never even laid down his load as they talk
briefly on the trail. These Indian are of course like sherpas that have
spent generations packing incredible loads.
I joked right off about Pasquinel using a tumpline in Centennial but at
least he was wearing it right, over his forehead.
bb
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Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 04:11:29 +0000
From: "don secondine" <dmdhsecondine@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Tumpline defined
Hoppis is used repeatedly in the 18th and early 19thc. primary sources. Not
a rare or a new term at all.
Don
>From: beaverboy@sofast.net
>Reply-To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
>To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Tumpline defined
>Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 16:57:41 -0600 (MDT)
>
> > Maybe the words 'pack strap' would be more applicable if the original
> > meaning is not used.
> > YMOS
> > Glenn Darilek
> > Iron Burner
>
> It's a tumpline not pack strap. Maybe I read that wrong, but why change
>terms. I've been reading about this era for 20+ years and have never
>even heard other terms for it like "burden strap" or "hoppis"? I have
>never heard of a tumpline being worn across the chest either.
> The late great outdoor writer Calvin Rustrum, who forgot more about
>tumplines then all on the list compined, talks a lot about tumplines. He
>once met a Cree Indian on a portage trail that was tumplining a cast
>iron stove on his back and a five gallon jerry can of kerosene in each
>arm. Rutsrum said the Indian never even laid down his load as they talk
>briefly on the trail. These Indian are of course like sherpas that have
>spent generations packing incredible loads.
> I joked right off about Pasquinel using a tumpline in Centennial but at
>least he was wearing it right, over his forehead.
> bb
>
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Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 01:19:38 EDT
From: GazeingCyot@cs.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Tumpline defined
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Beaver Boy
said:
I've been reading about this era for 20+ years and have never
even heard other terms for it like "burden strap" or "hoppis"? I have
never heard of a tumpline being worn across the chest either.
Well, Beaver Boy all I can say to that is, I guess ya haven't been readin the
right stuff and your only about ten years behind some of us on readin. (VBG)
Hope to see ya at Nationals
Crazy Cyot
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<BR>said:
<BR>I've been reading about this era for 20+ years and have never
<BR>even heard other terms for it like "burden strap" or "hoppis"? I h=
ave
<BR>never heard of a tumpline being worn across the chest either.
<BR>
<BR>Well, Beaver Boy all I can say to that is, I guess ya haven't been readi=
n the right stuff and your only about ten years behind some of us on readin.=
(VBG)
<BR> Hope to see ya at Nationals
<BR>Crazy Cyot
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Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 00:20:41 -0600 (MDT)
From: beaverboy@sofast.net
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Tumpline defined
your only about ten years behind some of us on readin.
> (VBG)
> Hope to see ya at Nationals
> Crazy Cyot
I guess I'm just a slow reader.
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Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 13:31:16 EDT
From: TrapRJoe@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Just looking
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Getting ready to spend a few months around Farmington, NM. Any buckskinners
around there I might buy a cup of coffee?
Ridge Pole
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Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 17:59:33 -0500
From: "Lanney Ratcliff" <lanneyratcliff@charter.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: BEWARE off topic
Ho the list,
I have a pair of virtually new......bought last Monday with fewer than 8
hours of use .....Wolverine ST steel toe, EH electrical hazard 8 inch work
boots, size 14 Medium (essentially D width), that I cannot wear. They have
an ever so slightly pointed toe design that bears on my big toes in a
tearfully painful manner. If you have bunions or big corns on you Great
Toes these ain't for you. The boot dealer is not cooperating worth a damn
and I will contact Wolverine Tuesday for help but I will pass these on to
anybody who needs them for less than I paid to rid myself of the nuisance..
Click here and scroll down to see them:
http://www.bootplace.com/steeltoe.html
BE SURE TO CONTACT ME OFF LIST AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS SHOWN BELOW
Lanney Ratcliff
lanneyratcliff@charter.net
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Aux Aliments du Pays
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