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Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 06:31:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: DAVID HOFFMAN <dlhj66@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Blank load ?
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Michael,
i've always used between 60gr and 80gr for my blanks, some use more for more of an impression i find even a small load will impress most folks;) what i do is roll the load up in a small piece of newspaper or other light paper, tear one end (not off) pour powder , ram paper down barrel hence small amount of light paper (if not to close to crowd) if the crowd is close just put paper in your bag for later disposal, have fun.
David
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<DIV>i've always used between 60gr and 80gr for my blanks, some use more for more of an impression i find even a small load will impress most folks;) what i do is roll the load up in a small piece of newspaper or other light paper, tear one end (not off) pour powder , ram paper down barrel hence small amount of light paper (if not to close to crowd) if the crowd is close just put paper in your bag for later disposal, have fun. </DIV>
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Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 07:41:03 -0700
From: "Randal Bublitz" <rjbublitz@earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Blank load ?
Michael, we have done parades, etc.... I would advice using a small piece
of cloth on top of a smaller than usual load (30 grains). I would put the
cloth in my mouth to wet, and then wd up and push down on top of powder.
The last thing you want is a burning piece of paper falling down on the
crowd. I have seen a lady get burned, that's when I went to wet cloth for
a wad. Randy
> [Original Message]
> From: <TheGreyWolfe@webtv.net (The Grey Wolfe)>
> and was wondering what size charge
> to use and weather a precut patch would do to tamp it down or a small
> wad of cloth or paper would be best? Any thoughts would be greatly
> appreciated!
>
> Your Servant,
> Michael A. Smith
>
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Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 09:53:58 -0600
From: "Jerry Bell" <jrbell@smartfella.com>
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Cheveruil
Thank you for the reply; however, Thompson says these deer weight between
30-50 lbs. which leads me to believe they are not mule deer.
Jerry
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"Jerry Bell" jrbell@smartfella.com wrote:
>>I am reading Columbia Journals by David Thompson, edited by Barbara
Belyea. In
it he says they eat Cheveruil<<
In the footnote to Glover's edition of Thompson's _Narrative_ (p. 268),
chevreuil is defined as mule deer. Thompson probably isn't eating Roe Deer,
because that is a Eurasian species.
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Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 09:58:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: DAVID HOFFMAN <dlhj66@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Blank load ?
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<<<The last thing you want is a burning piece of paper falling down on the
crowd. I have seen a lady get burned, that's when I went to wet cloth
for
a wad. Randy>>>
which is why i mentioned the part about the crowd, however i neglected to mention if i'm close to a crowd i don't use anything, just powder, you don't get quite as much sound but the flash is still very impressive.
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<DIV><<<The last thing you want is a burning piece of paper falling down on the<BR>crowd. I have seen a lady get burned, that's when I went to wet cloth <BR>for<BR>a wad. Randy>>><BR><BR>which is why i mentioned the part about the crowd, however i neglected to mention if i'm close to a crowd i don't use anything, just powder, you don't get quite as much sound but the flash is still very impressive.</DIV>
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Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 16:57:31 -0400
From: TheGreyWolfe@webtv.net (The Grey Wolfe)
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Blank load ?
Thanks for the info guys! If anyone else has
anymore ideas I'd be glad to here'm!
Thanks again,
M.
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Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 11:01:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: Todd Schrivener <farseer@swbell.net>
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Blank load ?
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Paper smoulders as well. Back in March I was down on the Osage Nation for a tactical, the paper from a cartidge in a brown bess musket started to catch the leaf litter. It was smoking quite nicely, which is how we noticed it and stomped it out.
I would figure buckskin the least likely substance to smoulder of those listed. Interesting. Never considered making cartridges out of leather.
Thom Frazier <mnthom@arvig.net> wrote:
All large reenacting groups recommend PAPER ONLY for blank loads. The reason
is all other materials: cloth (even wet) buckskin, tow, hemp, etc. smolder
and are fire hazards. Never shoot over or in the direction of a crowd. The
belief that someone was hit by something can do as much damage as actually
being hit.
Weeping Heart Gunn Shoppe
Thom Frazier
36732 Oak Point Rd.
New York Mills MN 56567
218-385-2074
mnthom@arvig.net
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<DIV>Paper smoulders as well. Back in March I was down on the Osage Nation for a tactical, the paper from a cartidge in a brown bess musket started to catch the leaf litter. It was smoking quite nicely, which is how we noticed it and stomped it out.</DIV>
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<DIV>I would figure buckskin the least likely substance to smoulder of those listed. Interesting. Never considered making cartridges out of leather. </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">All large reenacting groups recommend PAPER ONLY for blank loads. The reason<BR>is all other materials: cloth (even wet) buckskin, tow, hemp, etc. smolder<BR>and are fire hazards. Never shoot over or in the direction of a crowd. The<BR>belief that someone was hit by something can do as much damage as actually<BR>being hit.<BR>Weeping Heart Gunn Shoppe<BR>Thom Frazier<BR>36732 Oak Point Rd.<BR>New York Mills MN 56567<BR>218-385-2074<BR>mnthom@arvig.net<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE>
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Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 14:27:59 -0500
From: John Dearing <jdearing@brick.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Blank load ?
Go to the range and try different loads until you get the "boom" you want.
In the very few battle reenactments in which I have participated, a load of
100 gr FFFg
in a .75 cal musket made an impressive report, with NO wadding what so ever.
You don't need anything over the powder if you are firing immediately after
loading.
Safety considerations preclude any wadding, or firing in the direction of
the crowd.
If I were to participate in such an event, I would insist on a roped off
area with room to
fire away from the crowd. And would not fire if my conditions were not met.
Remember YOU are responsible for anyone injured due to burning embers,
hearing damage
due to an overly loud report, and for any injuries to the idiot who ducks
under the rope and
runs in front of you just as you discharge your piece.
J.D.
>Greetings to to all! Its been quite a while since Ive been on list but I
>finally have a question that I hope some one out there can help me with.
>Ive been asked by a local Historical group and Museum to re-enact a Rev.
>war era Rifleman
>for there Forth of July Cook Out. Of course the main thing they want me
>to do is shoot my rifle(.50 cal.) off as much as possible which leads me
>to my question, it occurs to me that in all the myriad times Ive fired
>my rifle Ive never fired a blank load and was wondering what size charge
>to use and weather a precut patch would do to tamp it down or a small
>wad of cloth or paper would be best? Any thoughts would be greatly
>appreciated!
>
>Your Servant,
>Michael A. Smith
>
>"Once kick the world,and the world and you will live together at a
