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From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest)
To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com
Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #1349
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hist_text-digest Friday, May 7 2004 Volume 01 : Number 1349
In this issue:
-áááááá MtMan-List: Rendezvous Magazine
-áááááá MtMan-List: tobacco boxes
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: tobacco boxes
-áááááá RE: MtMan-List: trade gun question
-áááááá MtMan-List: Re:Beavers
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: tobacco boxes
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Re:Beavers
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Re:Beavers
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Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 20:32:02 EDT
From: AvalancheLodge@aol.com
Subject: MtMan-List: Rendezvous Magazine
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Hello,
I wanted to ask anyone on the group if they know where I can purchase some
back issues of "Rendezvous" magazine. I dont know much about the magazine (how
many issues there were, when it was published, etc.) but I have been told that
it contained some great articles. I am particularly interested in finding a
copy of an article that Wes Housler did on hide tipis. Any help would be
appreciated. Thanks.
Ron
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<DIV>Hello,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I wanted to ask anyone on the group if they know where I can purchase s=
ome back issues of "Rendezvous" magazine. I dont know much about the m=
agazine (how many issues there were, when it was published, etc.) but I have=
been told that it contained some great articles. I am particularly in=
terested in finding a copy of an article that Wes Housler did on hide tipis.=
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 12:18:47 -0500
From: "Monte Holder" <sja028@mail.connect.more.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: tobacco boxes
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I have not been able to get any Irish Black Rope Tobacco as of yet, but =
I was able to order some other kinds and got a tin of Liberty and a tin =
of Cross eyed Cricket (just because I liked the name). When they =
arrived, the tobacco was in like a coffee filter inside the tin of both =
(the cricket kind has a plastic lid, and was like a catfood can, which =
was not what I was thinking). This reminded me of the brass or steel =
tobacco box I have that has a magnifying glass in the lid. It had a =
note saying "don't put tobacco in this unless it is in a pouch".
What is it about the tins or boxes that it does to the tobacco?
Also the sonic wall is down at school so I'm going to try to order some =
of that Irish Black rope stuff even though it says its not for the faint =
of heart....
been nice knowin' you all
Monte HOlder
Saline County MO
----- Original Message -----=20
From: DOUBLE EDGE FORGE=20
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: tobacco
I carry the Irish Black Rope tobac. Can be smoked in a pipe or =
chewed....
D
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<DIV>I have not been able to get any Irish Black Rope Tobacco as of yet, =
but I=20
was able to order some other kinds and got a tin of Liberty and a tin of =
Cross=20
eyed Cricket (just because I liked the name). When they arrived, =
the=20
tobacco was in like a coffee filter inside the tin of both (the cricket =
kind has=20
a plastic lid, and was like a catfood can, which was not what I was=20
thinking). This reminded me of the brass or steel tobacco box I =
have that=20
has a magnifying glass in the lid. It had a note saying "don't put =
tobacco=20
in this unless it is in a pouch".</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>What is it about the tins or boxes that it does to the =
tobacco?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Also the sonic wall is down at school so I'm going to try to order =
some of=20
that Irish Black rope stuff even though it says its not for the faint of =
heart....</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>been nice knowin' you all</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Monte HOlder</DIV>
<DIV>Saline County MO</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Ddeforge1@bright.net =
href=3D"mailto:deforge1@bright.net">DOUBLE EDGE=20
FORGE</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dhist_text@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:hist_text@lists.xmission.com">hist_text@lists.xmission.com=
</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 08, 2004 =
1:53=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: MtMan-List: =
tobacco</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>I carry the Irish Black Rope =
tobac. Can=20
be smoked in a pipe or chewed....</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG></STRONG></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
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Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 13:19:43 -0400
From: "DOUBLE EDGE FORGE" <deforge1@bright.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: tobacco boxes
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Monte
The Irish black rope not only is a fine smoke, it is a tolerable =
chew...
D
Double Edge Forge
www.bright.net/~deforge1
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Monte Holder=20
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 1:18 PM
Subject: MtMan-List: tobacco boxes
I have not been able to get any Irish Black Rope Tobacco as of yet, =
but I was able to order some other kinds and got a tin of Liberty and a =
tin of Cross eyed Cricket (just because I liked the name). When they =
arrived, the tobacco was in like a coffee filter inside the tin of both =
(the cricket kind has a plastic lid, and was like a catfood can, which =
was not what I was thinking). This reminded me of the brass or steel =
tobacco box I have that has a magnifying glass in the lid. It had a =
note saying "don't put tobacco in this unless it is in a pouch".
What is it about the tins or boxes that it does to the tobacco?
Also the sonic wall is down at school so I'm going to try to order =
some of that Irish Black rope stuff even though it says its not for the =
faint of heart....
been nice knowin' you all
Monte HOlder
Saline County MO
----- Original Message -----=20
From: DOUBLE EDGE FORGE=20
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: tobacco
I carry the Irish Black Rope tobac. Can be smoked in a pipe or =
chewed....
D
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Monte</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2> The Irish black =
rope not only=20
is a fine smoke, it is a tolerable chew...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>D<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Double Edge=20
Forge</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><A=20
href=3D"http://www.bright.net/~deforge1">www.bright.net/~deforge1</A></FO=
NT></FONT></DIV>
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MS"></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
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MS"></FONT> </DIV></FONT>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dsja028@mail.connect.more.net=20
href=3D"mailto:sja028@mail.connect.more.net">Monte Holder</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dhist_text@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:hist_text@lists.xmission.com">hist_text@lists.xmission.com=
</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 06, 2004 =
1:18=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> MtMan-List: tobacco =
boxes</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I have not been able to get any Irish Black Rope Tobacco as of =
yet, but I=20
was able to order some other kinds and got a tin of Liberty and a tin =
of Cross=20
eyed Cricket (just because I liked the name). When they arrived, =
the=20
tobacco was in like a coffee filter inside the tin of both (the =
cricket kind=20
has a plastic lid, and was like a catfood can, which was not what I =
was=20
thinking). This reminded me of the brass or steel tobacco box I =
have=20
that has a magnifying glass in the lid. It had a note saying =
"don't put=20
tobacco in this unless it is in a pouch".</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>What is it about the tins or boxes that it does to the =
tobacco?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Also the sonic wall is down at school so I'm going to try to =
order some=20
of that Irish Black rope stuff even though it says its not for the =
faint of=20
heart....</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>been nice knowin' you all</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Monte HOlder</DIV>
<DIV>Saline County MO</DIV>
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<A title=3Ddeforge1@bright.net =
href=3D"mailto:deforge1@bright.net">DOUBLE EDGE=20
FORGE</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dhist_text@lists.xmission.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:hist_text@lists.xmission.com">hist_text@lists.xmission.com=
</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 08, 2004 =
1:53=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: MtMan-List: =
tobacco</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>I carry the Irish Black =
Rope tobac. Can=20
be smoked in a pipe or chewed....</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><STRONG></STRONG></FONT> </DIV>
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Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 15:59:09 -0500
From: "Thom Frazier" <mnthom@arvig.net>
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: trade gun question
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Jim The short answer is "no" not the English or "Northwest" trade guns used
by the English to trade for furs. They were the "bic lighters" of the time
and generally cost was kept to a minimum.
Weeping Heart Gunn Shoppe
Thom Frazier
36732 Oak Point Rd.
New York Mills MN 56567
218-385-2074
mnthom@arvig.net
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Jim Zeigler
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 6:24 PM
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
Subject: MtMan-List: trade gun question
Hello List:: Not having seen many original trade guns, I would like
to know if the trigger and guard were browned (blued??) on the original
guns, also what about the bolts and screws...thanks in advance...jim
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D010095620-06052004><FONT size=3D2>Jim The short =
answer is "no"=20
not the English or "Northwest" trade guns used by the English to trade =
for=20
furs. They were the "bic lighters" of the time and generally cost =
was kept=20
to a minimum.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D010095620-06052004>
<P><FONT size=3D2>Weeping Heart Gunn Shoppe<BR>Thom Frazier<BR>36732 Oak =
Point=20
Rd.<BR>New York Mills MN =
56567<BR>218-385-2074<BR>mnthom@arvig.net</FONT>=20
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owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com=20
[mailto:owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Jim=20
Zeigler<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 05, 2004 6:24 PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
hist_text@lists.xmission.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> MtMan-List: trade gun=20
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<BLOCKQUOTE id=3D0>Hello List:: Not having seen many original =
trade guns,=20
I would like to know if the trigger and guard were browned =
(blued??) on=20
the original guns, also what about the bolts and screws...thanks =
in=20
advance...jim</BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 18:45:38 -0400
From: <wjackson2@woh.rr.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: Re:Beavers
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Any N.A Beavers on the list
Beaver 473
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any N.A Beavers on the =
list</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Beaver 473</FONT></DIV>
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Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 15:45:57 -0700
From: "RP Lahti" <amm1719@charter.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: tobacco boxes
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<What is it about the tins or boxes that it does to the tobacco?>
There is enough salts and moisture in the tobacco to get the brass and =
steel corroding which will taint the tobacco something fierce. Besides =
messing up the container. A "tinned" can won't corrode as readily. A =
lacquered brass container won't mess with the tobacco quite as bad as =
long as the coating stays intact. But any break in that layer will ruin =
the tobacco.
YMOS
Capt. Lahti'
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tobacco?></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Microsoft Sans Serif" size=3D2>There is enough salts =
and moisture=20
in the tobacco to get the brass and steel corroding which will taint the =
tobacco=20
something fierce. Besides messing up the container. A "tinned" can won't =
corrode=20
as readily. A lacquered brass container won't mess with the tobacco =
quite as bad=20
as long as the coating stays intact. But any break in that layer =
will ruin=20
the tobacco.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Microsoft Sans Serif" size=3D2>YMOS<BR>Capt. =
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Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 10:50:52 EDT
From: LivingInThePast@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re:Beavers
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In a message dated 5/6/2004 3:44:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
wjackson2@woh.rr.com writes:
Any N.A Beavers on the list
I've got my medallion, but for the life of me can't remember my number. Must
be the after-effects of the incident that got me inducted ;) ......
IIRC it was being handled by someone at Smoke & Fire. Do you know if that's
still the case? I'd like to contact whoever is still doing it.
Barney
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<DIV>In a message dated 5/6/2004 3:44:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time, wjackson2=
@woh.rr.com writes:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any N.A Beavers on the list</FONT></DIV>
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E></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#000080>I've got my m=
edallion, but for the life of me can't remember my number. Must be the after=
- -effects of the incident that got me inducted ;) ...... </FONT></S=
TRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#000080></FONT></STRONG>&n=
bsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#000080>IIRC it was being=20=
handled by someone at Smoke & Fire. Do you know if that's still the case=
? I'd like to contact whoever is still doing it.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 20:46:58 -0400
From: <wjackson2@woh.rr.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re:Beavers
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Contact me, with you name and I can look it up
MadJack
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