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hist_text-digest Wednesday, November 12 2003 Volume 01 : Number 1265
In this issue:
-áááááá MtMan-List: bedding
-áááááá MtMan-List: Deer hides for winter use
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: bedding
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: The Northwoods
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: bedding
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: bedding
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: bedding
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: bedding
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: bedding
-áááááá MtMan-List: Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 05:39:04 -0600
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: bedding
-áááááá MtMan-List: Moose Head
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: bedding
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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:13:56 -0600
From: "Frank Fusco" <Rifleman1776@cox-internet.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: bedding
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Lahti wrote, <I hear that a brain tan deer/elk/moose/whatever hide =
holds it's hair
well but not the commercial ones>
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I have a hair-on deer vest that I have been using since about 1973. =
The hide was given to me by a friend and it has the thickest and longest =
hair/fur I have ever seen from a deer. I had the hide commercially =
tanned and it is still in excellent shape. It loses hair constantly but =
from appearances you would never know it.
Frank
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<DIV> Lahti wrote, <I hear that a brain tan=20
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<DIV> I have a hair-on deer vest that I have been =
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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:19:00 EST
From: GazeingCyot@cs.com
Subject: MtMan-List: Deer hides for winter use
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I have found the hallow hair of Deer, Elk and Caribou very good for
insulation come winter.
They are bit messy from the air lose but can keep one warm even when wet. I
have had winter Mocs made out of them both and found them to be very warm to
ware even when wet. The leather on them wore out long before the hair lose
became problem for warmth. They also make good insulation from the ground for your
bed but like Randy said ya want to put an old blanket or something on top of
them or you will have hair every where in your bed.
Crazy Cyot
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<HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>I have found the hallow h=
air of Deer, Elk and Caribou very good for insulation come winter.
<BR>They are bit messy from the air lose but can keep one warm even when wet=
. I have had winter Mocs made out of them both and found them to be very war=
m to ware even when wet. The leather on them wore out long before the hair l=
ose became problem for warmth. They also make good insulation from the groun=
d for your bed but like Randy said ya want to put an old blanket or somethin=
g on top of them or you will have hair every where in your bed.
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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:32:01 -0800
From: "roger lahti" <amm1719@charter.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: bedding
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Thought for a minute that your experience proved what I had heard was =
wrong but that's not the case. Commercially tanned hides hair on do seem =
to loose hair one way or the other. Those few fellas I know who have =
brain tanned hides hair on make note that they are not loosing hair nor =
is it breaking off. I think there is something to this.
Capt. Lahti'
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thought for a minute that your =
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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:10:16 -0700 (MST)
From: beaverboy@sofast.net
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: The Northwoods
Sparks,
That extreme weather certainly makes the animals act differently! The
predators really have to keep moving on days like that. I watched that
Red Drifter mousing out in the neighbors field on that -18 degree
morning and it was dancing around like it was a spring day!
The deer and elk move a lot too until the warm morning sun starts to
warm up the southern exposures some when they bed down. I could barely
stay warm enough to sit on my stand for more than an hour and I was
wearing three layers of clothing, I could barely shoulder my fusee in a
normal way, I was so bundled up.
I saw over 200 deer in several groups two days before the cold hit.
They were all out feeding hard, they knew it was coming.
It's going to get into the 50's this weekend. Quite a change, the snow
all about melted on the flats and the ice is starting to go off.
I'll go for a morning hunt tomorrow if it's not blowing too hard.
Really blowing out now.
Good luck down the trail,
bb
> Beaverboy,
> When it is quite cold, like -18, or even 5 or 7 above, animals act
> differently than they do when we are hunting them on the balmy days of
> September and October. I have this from two sources.
> First, a wildlife biologist and guide told me that waterfowl wait until
> it is a bit warmer to move about...like the same time of day we would
> consider moving about...mid day. another wildlife biologist source said
> that deer stay bedded until more comfortable times in the face of a
> storm or cold temps. Makes sense to me, I see many more moving
> waterfowl between 10 adn 2 when it is mostly frozen. I have seen plenty
> of deer in mid day during Idaho's muzzleloader season (November).
> Sparks
>
> beaverboy@sofast.net wrote:
>
>>SMB,
>>They weren't just the plews, they had the beaver in them too!
>> Got down to -18 below in the Sun River valley last night. I almost
>>didn't go to my stand this morning but you don't get deer watching
>>the Today show.
>> Well, I should have watched the the Today show because all I got
>> was
>>cold toes! The bitter cold really makes the sound travel. The dry
>>snow squeaked when I hiked in.
>> People ask me all the time about beaver tails, I've never found any
>>references to them being used for anything but a meal. Not a big
>>deal to me. I have a knife sheath made of one too, but seldom use
>>it. Looks good though!
>> Stay warm,
>> BB
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Well, Huzzaa to you!!! It's a good day when you get a sore back from
>>>carting
>>>off all those plews!! MMMM fresh bever stew............. I've served it
>>>to
>>>a few pilgrims who didn't know what it was. I'm now relegated to
>>> bringing
>>>the potato chips............... If you've never tried it that tail if
>>>skinned and dried tight then oiled will make a pretty durable knife
>>> sheath
>>>if you use it as an outer cover on a soft piece of leather. I have a
>>>new/old
>>>knife I'm planning on doing just that with. When I get some of the
>>>yellow
>>>toothed critters for my self.
>>>
>>>SMB
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: beaverboy@sofast.net
>>>>Reply-To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
>>>>To: hist_text@xmission.com
>>>>Subject: MtMan-List: The Northwoods
>>>>Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:27:28 -0700 (MST)
>>>>
>>>>Dear List,
>>>> Winter reared it's ugly head early here in north central
>>>>Montana.
>>>>Bitter cold and blowing snow for the last five days. It was 5
>>>>degrees above when I got up at 5:00AM to go deer hunting. I was
>>>>up not ten minutes making coffee when I heard a rap on the front
>>>>door! It was the newspaper lady. She was stuck in a snow drift
>>>>nearby and needed a tow, she came to my house because my light
>>>>was on. It was the first time we met though I have passed her
>>>>many times in the early morning on my way to work. She was
>>>>running an hour behind schedule due to the snow. I usually pass
>>>>her around 3:30 - 4:00AM. She starts her work day at 1:00AM which
>>>>made me feel pretty good about my work hours. She's a
>>>>Grandmother, tough old gal! She was bundled up and had a
>>>>flashlight. I told her to knock anytime she was in a bind whether
>>>>the light was on or not.
>>>> I only have to hike a short distance from my home to hunt
>>>>whitetails which is why I can sleep in so late. I even have time
>>>>to enjoy some hot coffee and watch the news before leaving. The
>>>>weather the last three mornings has been bitter cold! This is the
>>>>weather they write about in the journals like that of Fort Clark
>>>>and Fort Union!! Bitter, bitter cold with a stiff north wind and
>>>>snow with deep drifts in spots! It's all I can do to sit in my
>>>>stand for an hour and a half before getting too cold. And I am
>>>>bundled up. Once I get moving I'm fine, but everyone knows it's
>>>>tough to hunt whitetails on the move.
>>>> I have to keep a close watch on my lock steel and blow snow from
>>>>it.
>>>> I decided not to set traps for the Red Drifters (red fox) yet as
>>>>it
>>>>is soo bitterly cold, I want his last day on earth to be a little
>>>>more comfortable. Remember, I'm an old softy now. I did wade out to
>>>>an island on the Missouri River yesterday and set 7 beaver traps.
>>>>These were all killer drowning sets so I did not worry about them. I
>>>>checked them this afternoon and had 6 beaver in the 7 traps! It
>>>>doesn't get much better than this! For those of you who don't know,
>>>>rolling a wet rat, mink or beaver in snow dries it instantly. You
>>>>have to take it quickly out of the water and put it right into the
>>>>snow and roll and rub it all over with snow. It will work too if
>>>>you ever take a spill in icy water and need to soak up some of the
>>>>water quick.
>>>> I had to make two trips off of the island with my trapping pack
>>>>loaded down. One trip it weighed 88 pounds not including ax. The
>>>>second trip it was 93 pounds. I couldn't even make it up the snowy
>>>>bank with the heavy pack. I had to take it off and push it up
>>>>ahead of me.
>>>> I rough skinned two of the smaller beaver right off so the dogs
>>>>could have fresh meat tonight. They are ravenous eaters in this
>>>>bitter cold. I cut off all four hams (8 total) and saved the
>>>>remaining carcass for cat trappers I know who use what's left for
>>>>bait. Nothing goes to waste in the north woods.
>>>> Life has been good for beaver boy. With 6 beaver in one night, I
>>>>guess I can go by beaverboy for another 6 month's anyway.
>>>> It's clear out now and I just checked my thermometer and its -10
>>>>below at 8:00PM! Tomorrow's hunt should be interesting.
>>>> These are shining times! I'm having a hot toddy tonight and
>>>> built
>>>>a
>>>>fire in the woodstove. Hey, I'm on vacation! Oh, and I took two
>>>>aspirins too.
>>>> Good luck to all of you down the trail,
>>>> beaverboy
>>>>
>>>>
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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:10:09 -0700
From: James and Sue Stone <jandsstone@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: bedding
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...kinda what i figgered...thanks
sparks
roger lahti wrote:
> Hair side next to you.
>
> Capt. Lahti'
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: James and Sue Stone <mailto:jandsstone@earthlink.net>
> To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
> <mailto:hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 6:57 PM
> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: bedding
>
> Just out of curiosity, which side of the hide do ya'll sleep
> on--fleshy side or hair side?
> Sparks
>
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...kinda what i figgered...thanks<br>
sparks<br>
<br>
roger lahti wrote:<br>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Hair side next to you. </font></div>
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<a title="jandsstone@earthlink.net"
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Just out of curiosity, which side of the hide do ya'll sleep on--fleshy
side or hair side?<br>
Sparks<br>
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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:18:12 -0700
From: James and Sue Stone <jandsstone@earthlink.net>
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Thanks! that's kinda what I figured, but just makin sure.
Sparks
Randal Bublitz wrote:
> ooops.... I lay the hide down with the hair up, so the hair is
> towards me underneath and over. Randy
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: James and Sue Stone <mailto:jandsstone@earthlink.net>
> To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com <mailto:hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
> Sent: 11/10/03 6:57:20 PM
> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: bedding
>
> Just out of curiosity, which side of the hide do ya'll sleep
> on--fleshy side or hair side?
> Sparks
>
> Randal Bublitz wrote:
>
>>Larry, I have a braintanned buffalo robe (winter kill cow, from Wes
>>Housler-New Mex.). I , too, swear by it. I have slept in near 0 temps
>>with it, a canvas tarp, and a wool blanket- and woke up warm and cozy.
>>Before the buff robe, I have used a sheep skin as padding, and ground
>>insulation, and highly recommend a sheep skin. I have used an elk robe, but
>>the hair is brittle and breaks off (making you feel like having had a fresh
>>hair cut- scratchy). I solved this by using the elk to lay on top of, with
>>a mexican saddle blanket over it. Half of the trick to beating the cold is
>>having insulation under you, as well as a cover over you. I agree that a
>>wool blanket works better when combined with a piece of tarp to keep the
>>air flow down. The best/ cheapest bed roll I have used is a 10 X 10' tarp,
>>a sheep skin and a good wool blanket or two. Lay the tarp down, put the
>>sheepskin wool side up on half the tarp. lay the blankets out flat on top
>>of the sheep skin. Lay down (with tarp, sheepskin, blankets under you)
>>fold blanket(s) over you with other half of tarp. This arrangement works
>>pretty good for me. The buffalo robe , tarp and maybe a blanket works
>>better for me. It was hard to spend so much money for a good brain tanned
>>buff robe, but I don't regret it now that I have one. Yfab, Randy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>[Original Message]
>>>From: Larry <L.Renney@bresnan.net>
>>>To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
>>>Date: 11/9/03 9:09:32 PM
>>>Subject: MtMan-List: bedding
>>>
>>>for bedding, the best thing appears to be a buffalo robe. unfortunately
>>>
>>>
>>not
>>
>>
>>>all of us can afford a buffalo robe right off. (I am saving up my
>>>
>>>
>>pennies
>>
>>
>>>and dimes though). so how do the alternates measure up?
>>>deer hide
>>>elk
>>>moose
>>>bear
>>>caribou
>>>what's the next best thing?
>>>larry
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Thanks! that's kinda what I figured, but just makin sure.<br>
Sparks<br>
<br>
Randal Bublitz wrote:<br>
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<div>ooops.... I lay the hide down with the hair up, so the hair is towards
me underneath and over. Randy</div>
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Re: MtMan-List: bedding</div>
<div><br>
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<font size="2">Just out of curiosity, which side of the hide do ya'll
sleep on--fleshy side or hair side?<br>
Sparks<br>
<br>
Randal Bublitz wrote:<br>
<blockquote cite="mid410-220031121105911400@earthlink.net"
type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Larry, I have a braintanned buffalo robe (winter kill cow, from Wes
Housler-New Mex.). I , too, swear by it. I have slept in near 0 temps
with it, a canvas tarp, and a wool blanket- and woke up warm and cozy.
Before the buff robe, I have used a sheep skin as padding, and ground
insulation, and highly recommend a sheep skin. I have used an elk robe, but
the hair is brittle and breaks off (making you feel like having had a fresh
hair cut- scratchy). I solved this by using the elk to lay on top of, with
a mexican saddle blanket over it. Half of the trick to beating the cold is
having insulation under you, as well as a cover over you. I agree that a
wool blanket works better when combined with a piece of tarp to keep the
air flow down. The best/ cheapest bed roll I have used is a 10 X 10' tarp,
a sheep skin and a good wool blanket or two. Lay the tarp down, put the
sheepskin wool side up on half the tarp. lay the blankets out flat on top
of the sheep skin. Lay down (with tarp, sheepskin, blankets under you)
fold blanket(s) over you with other half of tarp. This arrangement works
pretty good for me. The buffalo robe , tarp and maybe a blanket works
better for me. It was hard to spend so much money for a good brain tanned
buff robe, but I don't regret it now that I have one. Yfab, Randy
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Date: 11/9/03 9:09:32 PM
Subject: MtMan-List: bedding
for bedding, the best thing appears to be a buffalo robe. unfortunately
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<pre wrap="">and dimes though). so how do the alternates measure up?
deer hide
elk
moose
bear
caribou
what's the next best thing?
larry
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Date: 11 Nov 2003 20:00:19 -0600
From: Phyllis and Don Keas <pdkeas@market1.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: bedding
Wool blankets have always done me very well. The coldest I have slept is =
12 below and two Witneys. I did all right, but now I am older and plan on =
carrying three in the winter. Old age you know. Don
On Monday, November 10, 2003 11:42 AM, roger lahti <amm1719@charter.net> =
wrote:
>I got to agree with bb on bison robes being a pain if they get wet. But I
>suspect that, well I know my robe is warmer than an equivalent weight of
>wool blanket. To make the blankets warm at all you still need some sort =
of
>air barrier like a canvas bed roll to cut the air movement by the blanket.=
>The robe comes with it's own barrier but it's not water repellent at all.
>Brain tan is very light though when done right with plenty of hide =
shaving
>to get it thin as possible.
>
>I still have good use for my wool blankets.
>
>Capt. Lahti
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Date: 11 Nov 2003 20:12:40 -0600
From: Phyllis and Don Keas <pdkeas@market1.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: bedding
Put a chin strap on your stocking cap. Works for me. Don
On Monday, November 10, 2003 7:02 PM, roger lahti <amm1719@charter.net> =
wrote:
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>Sparks, et.al.,
> =A0
>I've never had much success with a stocking cap but since I got
>me a Scottish tam from Jas Townsend and sons, I've not had a
>problem keeping it on all night. It may end up turned around a
>couple times but it's always there where I left it. <G>
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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:18:21 -0800
From: "roger lahti" <amm1719@charter.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: bedding
Don,
Well to be honest I hate stocking caps to start out with. So no chin strap
and as I said, with my tam I don't need one. I put it on at night and it's
on in the morning and anytime in-between I happen to wake up.
Capt. Lahti'
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Subject: MtMan-List: Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 05:39:04 -0600
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animals he shot in Alaska, British Columbia and elsewhere. One, a huge =
moose (the spread of the horns is about 80 inches), is one of the =
largest and finest mounts I have ever seen. He has decided to sell it, =
but has no sense of how to determine its fair value. Can anyone suggest =
a site, company, or individual who might be able to give advice on this =
subject.
Thanks,
Paul
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Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 07:55:11 -0700
From: Ole Jensen <olebjensen@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: bedding
Don,
For years I have used 1 hudson bay, 1 whitney, and 2 Barron 5 point
blankets wraped with canvas.
In the future I will use the same with the addition of 3 hudson bay's
and 1 whitney as a ground pad wraped with russian sheating.
Ole
On Tuesday, November 11, 2003, at 07:00 PM, Phyllis and Don Keas wrote:
> Wool blankets have always done me very well. The coldest I have slept
> is 12 below and two Witneys. I did all right, but now I am older and
> plan on carrying three in the winter. Old age you know. Don
>
> On Monday, November 10, 2003 11:42 AM, roger lahti
> <amm1719@charter.net> wrote:
>> I got to agree with bb on bison robes being a pain if they get wet.
>> But I
>> suspect that, well I know my robe is warmer than an equivalent weight
>> of
>> wool blanket. To make the blankets warm at all you still need some
>> sort of
>> air barrier like a canvas bed roll to cut the air movement by the
>> blanket.
>> The robe comes with it's own barrier but it's not water repellent at
>> all.
>> Brain tan is very light though when done right with plenty of hide
>> shaving
>> to get it thin as possible.
>>
>> I still have good use for my wool blankets.
>>
>> Capt. Lahti
>>
>>
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Subject: MtMan-List: Moose Head
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In a message dated 11/12/2003 3:42:08 AM Pacific Standard Time,
pwjones@myexcel.com writes:
Can anyone suggest a site, company, or individual who might be able to give
advice on this subject.
Pablo, Try Lietzau Taxidermy in Cosmos, Minnesota. Phone is 320-877-7297.
Hope this is of some help. Barney
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Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:31:27 -0600
From: "Paul Jones" <pwjones@myexcel.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: bedding
Ole,
What do you estimate the total weight to be of 1 Hudson bay, 1 Whitney, 2
Barron 5 point blankets wrapped with canvas, together with the addition of 3
Hudson bay's and 1 Whitney as a ground pad wrapped with Russian sheeting?
Can you carry this or does it require some other means of transportation?
It will surely keep you warm and dry, but the bulk and weight seem somewhat
intimidating in my view, and I would assume that this set-up is not for a
walk-in situation, or am I mistaken?
Regards,
Paul
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Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: bedding
> Don,
> For years I have used 1 hudson bay, 1 whitney, and 2 Barron 5 point
> blankets wraped with canvas.
> In the future I will use the same with the addition of 3 hudson bay's
> and 1 whitney as a ground pad wraped with russian sheating.
> Ole
> On Tuesday, November 11, 2003, at 07:00 PM, Phyllis and Don Keas wrote:
>
> > Wool blankets have always done me very well. The coldest I have slept
> > is 12 below and two Witneys. I did all right, but now I am older and
> > plan on carrying three in the winter. Old age you know. Don
> >
> > On Monday, November 10, 2003 11:42 AM, roger lahti
> > <amm1719@charter.net> wrote:
> >> I got to agree with bb on bison robes being a pain if they get wet.
> >> But I
> >> suspect that, well I know my robe is warmer than an equivalent weight
> >> of
> >> wool blanket. To make the blankets warm at all you still need some
> >> sort of
> >> air barrier like a canvas bed roll to cut the air movement by the
> >> blanket.
> >> The robe comes with it's own barrier but it's not water repellent at
> >> all.
> >> Brain tan is very light though when done right with plenty of hide
> >> shaving
> >> to get it thin as possible.
> >>
> >> I still have good use for my wool blankets.
> >>
> >> Capt. Lahti
> >>
> >>
> >>
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