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hist_text-digest Friday, November 7 2003 Volume 01 : Number 1261
In this issue:
-áááááá MtMan-List: The Northwoods
-áááááá RE: MtMan-List: The Northwoods
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: The Northwoods
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Indian Robe Dressing
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: The Northwoods
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: The Northwoods
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: The Northwoods
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: Indian Robe Dressing
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: The Northwoods
-áááááá MtMan-List: L&C Rifles
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: L&C Rifles
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: L&C Rifles
-áááááá Re: MtMan-List: L&C Rifles
-áááááá MtMan-List: L&C rifles
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Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:27:28 -0700 (MST)
From: beaverboy@sofast.net
Subject: MtMan-List: The Northwoods
Dear List,
Winter reared itÆs ugly head early here in north central Montana.
Bitter cold and blowing snow for the last five days. It was 5
degrees above when I got up at 5:00AM to go deer hunting. I was
up not ten minutes making coffee when I heard a rap on the front
door! It was the newspaper lady. She was stuck in a snow drift
nearby and needed a tow, she came to my house because my light
was on. It was the first time we met though I have passed her
many times in the early morning on my way to work. She was
running an hour behind schedule due to the snow. I usually pass
her around 3:30 - 4:00AM. She starts her work day at 1:00AM which
made me feel pretty good about my work hours. SheÆs a
Grandmother, tough old gal! She was bundled up and had a
flashlight. I told her to knock anytime she was in a bind whether
the light was on or not.
I only have to hike a short distance from my home to hunt
whitetails which is why I can sleep in so late. I even have time
to enjoy some hot coffee and watch the news before leaving. The
weather the last three mornings has been bitter cold! This is the
weather they write about in the journals like that of Fort Clark
and Fort Union!! Bitter, bitter cold with a stiff north wind and
snow with deep drifts in spots! ItÆs all I can do to sit in my
stand for an hour and a half before getting too cold. And I am
bundled up. Once I get moving IÆm fine, but everyone knows itÆs
tough to hunt whitetails on the move.
I have to keep a close watch on my lock steel and blow snow from it.
I decided not to set traps for the Red Drifters (red fox) yet as it
is soo bitterly cold, I want his last day on earth to be a little
more comfortable. Remember, IÆm an old softy now. I did wade out to
an island on the Missouri River yesterday and set 7 beaver traps.
These were all killer drowning sets so I did not worry about them. I
checked them this afternoon and had 6 beaver in the 7 traps! It
doesnÆt get much better than this! For those of you who donÆt know,
rolling a wet rat, mink or beaver in snow dries it instantly. You
have to take it quickly out of the water and put it right into the
snow and roll and rub it all over with snow. It will work too if
you ever take a spill in icy water and need to soak up some of the
water quick.
I had to make two trips off of the island with my trapping pack
loaded down. One trip it weighed 88 pounds not including ax. The
second trip it was 93 pounds. I couldnÆt even make it up the snowy
bank with the heavy pack. I had to take it off and push it up
ahead of me.
I rough skinned two of the smaller beaver right off so the dogs
could have fresh meat tonight. They are ravenous eaters in this
bitter cold. I cut off all four hams (8 total) and saved the
remaining carcass for cat trappers I know who use whatÆs left for
bait. Nothing goes to waste in the north woods.
Life has been good for beaver boy. With 6 beaver in one night, I
guess I can go by beaverboy for another 6 monthÆs anyway.
ItÆs clear out now and I just checked my thermometer and its -10
below at 8:00PM! TomorrowÆs hunt should be interesting.
These are shining times! IÆm having a hot toddy tonight and built a
fire in the woodstove. Hey, IÆm on vacation! Oh, and I took two
aspirins too.
Good luck to all of you down the trail,
beaverboy
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Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:43:10 -0800
From: "Randal Bublitz" <rjbublitz@earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: The Northwoods
Beaverboy, congrats , and thanks for the update. We've had frost a few
nights this week here on the central coast of Cal. (upper 30s) and I've
felt a little chilly. Heck, after reading your words I've stripped nekked.
I'd like to think that with some conditioning I could deal with those
temps, but really I doubt it. More power to you. Thanks for sharing your
experiences. Yfab, Randy
> [Original Message]
> From: <beaverboy@sofast.net>
> Dear List,
> Winter reared itÆs ugly head early here in north central Montana.
> Bitter cold and blowing snow for the last five days. It was 5
> degrees above when I got up at 5:00AM to go deer hunting. .....
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Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:47:42 -0600
From: "Lanney Ratcliff" <lanneyratcliff@charter.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: The Northwoods
Here in frigid north-central Texas we are still running the damn air
conditioning. It was only in the low to mid 80's today but the humidity
would make Houston proud. Haven't seen the sun in several days.......low
clouds and 10-30 mph winds out of the south west (read Mexico). Be glad
when we get some cool weather.
Lanney
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From: "Randal Bublitz" <rjbublitz@earthlink.net>
To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 9:43 PM
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: The Northwoods
Beaverboy, congrats , and thanks for the update. We've had frost a few
nights this week here on the central coast of Cal. (upper 30s) and I've
felt a little chilly. Heck, after reading your words I've stripped nekked.
I'd like to think that with some conditioning I could deal with those
temps, but really I doubt it. More power to you. Thanks for sharing your
experiences. Yfab, Randy
> [Original Message]
> From: <beaverboy@sofast.net>
> Dear List,
> Winter reared it's ugly head early here in north central Montana.
> Bitter cold and blowing snow for the last five days. It was 5
> degrees above when I got up at 5:00AM to go deer hunting. .....
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Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 22:55:12 EST
From: GazeingCyot@cs.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Indian Robe Dressing
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"For my industry in dressing skins, my clan Aunt, Sage, gave me a woman's
belt. it was as broad as my three fingers, and covered with blue beads. One end
was made very long, to hang down before me. Only a very industrious girl was
given such a belt. She could not buy or make one....I was as proud of mine as
a war leader of his first scalp. I won other honors for my industry. For
embroidering a robe for my father with porcupine quills I was given a brass ring."
Buffalo Bird Woman, Hidatsa, born about 1839
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sing skins, my clan Aunt, Sage, gave me a woman's belt. it was as broa=
d as my three fingers, and covered with blue beads. One end was made very lo=
ng, to hang down before me. Only a very industrious girl was given suc=
h a belt. She could not buy or make one....I was as proud of mine as a war l=
eader of his first scalp. I won other honors for my industry. For embroideri=
ng a robe for my father with porcupine quills I was given a brass ring." &nb=
sp; Buffalo Bird Woman, Hidatsa, born about 1839</FON=
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Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 05:52:53 +0000
From: "Sean Boushie" <flintlocknfur@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: The Northwoods
Well, Huzzaa to you!!! It's a good day when you get a sore back from carting
off all those plews!! MMMM fresh bever stew............. I've served it to
a few pilgrims who didn't know what it was. I'm now relegated to bringing
the potato chips............... If you've never tried it that tail if
skinned and dried tight then oiled will make a pretty durable knife sheath
if you use it as an outer cover on a soft piece of leather. I have a new/old
knife I'm planning on doing just that with. When I get some of the yellow
toothed critters for my self.
SMB
>From: beaverboy@sofast.net
>Reply-To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
>To: hist_text@xmission.com
>Subject: MtMan-List: The Northwoods
>Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:27:28 -0700 (MST)
>
>Dear List,
> Winter reared itÆs ugly head early here in north central Montana.
>Bitter cold and blowing snow for the last five days. It was 5
>degrees above when I got up at 5:00AM to go deer hunting. I was
>up not ten minutes making coffee when I heard a rap on the front
>door! It was the newspaper lady. She was stuck in a snow drift
>nearby and needed a tow, she came to my house because my light
>was on. It was the first time we met though I have passed her
>many times in the early morning on my way to work. She was
>running an hour behind schedule due to the snow. I usually pass
>her around 3:30 - 4:00AM. She starts her work day at 1:00AM which
>made me feel pretty good about my work hours. SheÆs a
>Grandmother, tough old gal! She was bundled up and had a
>flashlight. I told her to knock anytime she was in a bind whether
>the light was on or not.
> I only have to hike a short distance from my home to hunt
>whitetails which is why I can sleep in so late. I even have time
>to enjoy some hot coffee and watch the news before leaving. The
>weather the last three mornings has been bitter cold! This is the
>weather they write about in the journals like that of Fort Clark
>and Fort Union!! Bitter, bitter cold with a stiff north wind and
>snow with deep drifts in spots! ItÆs all I can do to sit in my
>stand for an hour and a half before getting too cold. And I am
>bundled up. Once I get moving IÆm fine, but everyone knows itÆs
>tough to hunt whitetails on the move.
> I have to keep a close watch on my lock steel and blow snow from it.
> I decided not to set traps for the Red Drifters (red fox) yet as it
>is soo bitterly cold, I want his last day on earth to be a little
>more comfortable. Remember, IÆm an old softy now. I did wade out to
>an island on the Missouri River yesterday and set 7 beaver traps.
>These were all killer drowning sets so I did not worry about them. I
>checked them this afternoon and had 6 beaver in the 7 traps! It
>doesnÆt get much better than this! For those of you who donÆt know,
>rolling a wet rat, mink or beaver in snow dries it instantly. You
>have to take it quickly out of the water and put it right into the
>snow and roll and rub it all over with snow. It will work too if
>you ever take a spill in icy water and need to soak up some of the
>water quick.
> I had to make two trips off of the island with my trapping pack
>loaded down. One trip it weighed 88 pounds not including ax. The
>second trip it was 93 pounds. I couldnÆt even make it up the snowy
>bank with the heavy pack. I had to take it off and push it up
>ahead of me.
> I rough skinned two of the smaller beaver right off so the dogs
>could have fresh meat tonight. They are ravenous eaters in this
>bitter cold. I cut off all four hams (8 total) and saved the
>remaining carcass for cat trappers I know who use whatÆs left for
>bait. Nothing goes to waste in the north woods.
> Life has been good for beaver boy. With 6 beaver in one night, I
>guess I can go by beaverboy for another 6 monthÆs anyway.
> ItÆs clear out now and I just checked my thermometer and its -10
>below at 8:00PM! TomorrowÆs hunt should be interesting.
> These are shining times! IÆm having a hot toddy tonight and built a
>fire in the woodstove. Hey, IÆm on vacation! Oh, and I took two
>aspirins too.
> Good luck to all of you down the trail,
> beaverboy
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:46:10 -0700 (MST)
From: beaverboy@sofast.net
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: The Northwoods
SMB,
They weren't just the plews, they had the beaver in them too!
Got down to -18 below in the Sun River valley last night. I almost
didn't go to my stand this morning but you don't get deer watching
the Today show.
Well, I should have watched the the Today show because all I got was
cold toes! The bitter cold really makes the sound travel. The dry
snow squeaked when I hiked in.
People ask me all the time about beaver tails, I've never found any
references to them being used for anything but a meal. Not a big
deal to me. I have a knife sheath made of one too, but seldom use
it. Looks good though!
Stay warm,
BB
> Well, Huzzaa to you!!! It's a good day when you get a sore back from
> carting
> off all those plews!! MMMM fresh bever stew............. I've served it
> to
> a few pilgrims who didn't know what it was. I'm now relegated to bringing
> the potato chips............... If you've never tried it that tail if
> skinned and dried tight then oiled will make a pretty durable knife sheath
> if you use it as an outer cover on a soft piece of leather. I have a
> new/old
> knife I'm planning on doing just that with. When I get some of the
> yellow
> toothed critters for my self.
>
> SMB
>
>
>>From: beaverboy@sofast.net
>>Reply-To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
>>To: hist_text@xmission.com
>>Subject: MtMan-List: The Northwoods
>>Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:27:28 -0700 (MST)
>>
>>Dear List,
>> Winter reared itÆs ugly head early here in north central
>> Montana.
>>Bitter cold and blowing snow for the last five days. It was 5
>>degrees above when I got up at 5:00AM to go deer hunting. I was
>>up not ten minutes making coffee when I heard a rap on the front
>>door! It was the newspaper lady. She was stuck in a snow drift
>>nearby and needed a tow, she came to my house because my light
>>was on. It was the first time we met though I have passed her
>>many times in the early morning on my way to work. She was
>>running an hour behind schedule due to the snow. I usually pass
>>her around 3:30 - 4:00AM. She starts her work day at 1:00AM which
>>made me feel pretty good about my work hours. SheÆs a
>>Grandmother, tough old gal! She was bundled up and had a
>>flashlight. I told her to knock anytime she was in a bind whether
>>the light was on or not.
>> I only have to hike a short distance from my home to hunt
>>whitetails which is why I can sleep in so late. I even have time
>>to enjoy some hot coffee and watch the news before leaving. The
>>weather the last three mornings has been bitter cold! This is the
>>weather they write about in the journals like that of Fort Clark
>>and Fort Union!! Bitter, bitter cold with a stiff north wind and
>>snow with deep drifts in spots! ItÆs all I can do to sit in my
>>stand for an hour and a half before getting too cold. And I am
>>bundled up. Once I get moving IÆm fine, but everyone knows itÆs
>>tough to hunt whitetails on the move.
>> I have to keep a close watch on my lock steel and blow snow from
>> it.
>> I decided not to set traps for the Red Drifters (red fox) yet as
>> it
>>is soo bitterly cold, I want his last day on earth to be a little
>>more comfortable. Remember, IÆm an old softy now. I did wade out to
>>an island on the Missouri River yesterday and set 7 beaver traps.
>>These were all killer drowning sets so I did not worry about them. I
>>checked them this afternoon and had 6 beaver in the 7 traps! It
>>doesnÆt get much better than this! For those of you who donÆt know,
>>rolling a wet rat, mink or beaver in snow dries it instantly. You
>>have to take it quickly out of the water and put it right into the
>>snow and roll and rub it all over with snow. It will work too if
>>you ever take a spill in icy water and need to soak up some of the
>>water quick.
>> I had to make two trips off of the island with my trapping pack
>>loaded down. One trip it weighed 88 pounds not including ax. The
>>second trip it was 93 pounds. I couldnÆt even make it up the snowy
>>bank with the heavy pack. I had to take it off and push it up
>>ahead of me.
>> I rough skinned two of the smaller beaver right off so the dogs
>>could have fresh meat tonight. They are ravenous eaters in this
>>bitter cold. I cut off all four hams (8 total) and saved the
>>remaining carcass for cat trappers I know who use whatÆs left for
>>bait. Nothing goes to waste in the north woods.
>> Life has been good for beaver boy. With 6 beaver in one night, I
>>guess I can go by beaverboy for another 6 monthÆs anyway.
>> ItÆs clear out now and I just checked my thermometer and its -10
>>below at 8:00PM! TomorrowÆs hunt should be interesting.
>> These are shining times! IÆm having a hot toddy tonight and built
>> a
>>fire in the woodstove. Hey, IÆm on vacation! Oh, and I took two
>>aspirins too.
>> Good luck to all of you down the trail,
>> beaverboy
>>
>>
>>
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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:46:10 -0700 (MST)
From: beaverboy@sofast.net
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: The Northwoods
SMB,
They weren't just the plews, they had the beaver in them too!
Got down to -18 below in the Sun River valley last night. I almost
didn't go to my stand this morning but you don't get deer watching
the Today show.
Well, I should have watched the the Today show because all I got was
cold toes! The bitter cold really makes the sound travel. The dry
snow squeaked when I hiked in.
People ask me all the time about beaver tails, I've never found any
references to them being used for anything but a meal. Not a big
deal to me. I have a knife sheath made of one too, but seldom use
it. Looks good though!
Stay warm,
BB
> Well, Huzzaa to you!!! It's a good day when you get a sore back from
> carting
> off all those plews!! MMMM fresh bever stew............. I've served it
> to
> a few pilgrims who didn't know what it was. I'm now relegated to bringing
> the potato chips............... If you've never tried it that tail if
> skinned and dried tight then oiled will make a pretty durable knife sheath
> if you use it as an outer cover on a soft piece of leather. I have a
> new/old
> knife I'm planning on doing just that with. When I get some of the
> yellow
> toothed critters for my self.
>
> SMB
>
>
>>From: beaverboy@sofast.net
>>Reply-To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
>>To: hist_text@xmission.com
>>Subject: MtMan-List: The Northwoods
>>Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:27:28 -0700 (MST)
>>
>>Dear List,
>> Winter reared itÆs ugly head early here in north central
>> Montana.
>>Bitter cold and blowing snow for the last five days. It was 5
>>degrees above when I got up at 5:00AM to go deer hunting. I was
>>up not ten minutes making coffee when I heard a rap on the front
>>door! It was the newspaper lady. She was stuck in a snow drift
>>nearby and needed a tow, she came to my house because my light
>>was on. It was the first time we met though I have passed her
>>many times in the early morning on my way to work. She was
>>running an hour behind schedule due to the snow. I usually pass
>>her around 3:30 - 4:00AM. She starts her work day at 1:00AM which
>>made me feel pretty good about my work hours. SheÆs a
>>Grandmother, tough old gal! She was bundled up and had a
>>flashlight. I told her to knock anytime she was in a bind whether
>>the light was on or not.
>> I only have to hike a short distance from my home to hunt
>>whitetails which is why I can sleep in so late. I even have time
>>to enjoy some hot coffee and watch the news before leaving. The
>>weather the last three mornings has been bitter cold! This is the
>>weather they write about in the journals like that of Fort Clark
>>and Fort Union!! Bitter, bitter cold with a stiff north wind and
>>snow with deep drifts in spots! ItÆs all I can do to sit in my
>>stand for an hour and a half before getting too cold. And I am
>>bundled up. Once I get moving IÆm fine, but everyone knows itÆs
>>tough to hunt whitetails on the move.
>> I have to keep a close watch on my lock steel and blow snow from
>> it.
>> I decided not to set traps for the Red Drifters (red fox) yet as
>> it
>>is soo bitterly cold, I want his last day on earth to be a little
>>more comfortable. Remember, IÆm an old softy now. I did wade out to
>>an island on the Missouri River yesterday and set 7 beaver traps.
>>These were all killer drowning sets so I did not worry about them. I
>>checked them this afternoon and had 6 beaver in the 7 traps! It
>>doesnÆt get much better than this! For those of you who donÆt know,
>>rolling a wet rat, mink or beaver in snow dries it instantly. You
>>have to take it quickly out of the water and put it right into the
>>snow and roll and rub it all over with snow. It will work too if
>>you ever take a spill in icy water and need to soak up some of the
>>water quick.
>> I had to make two trips off of the island with my trapping pack
>>loaded down. One trip it weighed 88 pounds not including ax. The
>>second trip it was 93 pounds. I couldnÆt even make it up the snowy
>>bank with the heavy pack. I had to take it off and push it up
>>ahead of me.
>> I rough skinned two of the smaller beaver right off so the dogs
>>could have fresh meat tonight. They are ravenous eaters in this
>>bitter cold. I cut off all four hams (8 total) and saved the
>>remaining carcass for cat trappers I know who use whatÆs left for
>>bait. Nothing goes to waste in the north woods.
>> Life has been good for beaver boy. With 6 beaver in one night, I
>>guess I can go by beaverboy for another 6 monthÆs anyway.
>> ItÆs clear out now and I just checked my thermometer and its -10
>>below at 8:00PM! TomorrowÆs hunt should be interesting.
>> These are shining times! IÆm having a hot toddy tonight and built
>> a
>>fire in the woodstove. Hey, IÆm on vacation! Oh, and I took two
>>aspirins too.
>> Good luck to all of you down the trail,
>> beaverboy
>>
>>
>>
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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:49:27 -0700 (MST)
From: beaverboy@sofast.net
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Indian Robe Dressing
This is what I'm talking about! Thanks a ton.
Was there anymore in that source?
> "For my industry in dressing skins, my clan Aunt, Sage, gave me a woman's
> belt. it was as broad as my three fingers, and covered with blue beads.
> One end
> was made very long, to hang down before me. Only a very industrious girl
> was
> given such a belt. She could not buy or make one....I was as proud of mine
> as
> a war leader of his first scalp. I won other honors for my industry. For
> embroidering a robe for my father with porcupine quills I was given a
> brass ring."
> Buffalo Bird Woman, Hidatsa, born about 1839
>
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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 13:42:58 EST
From: SWcushing@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: The Northwoods
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In a message dated 11/5/2003 8:47:12 AM Pacific Standard Time,
beaverboy@sofast.net writes:
I have a knife sheath made of one too, but seldom use
it. Looks good though!
Speaking of beaver tail sheaths..... BEAD.....where IS mine?????
Magpie
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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:28:43 -0800
From: "Dale Nelson" <dnelson@wizzards.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: L&C Rifles
The Hawken brothers may have worked at Harper's Ferry but they did not come
up with their short, heavy-barreled rifles until the fur trade era was about
over. Through most of that era the most ordered
rifles (by the fur companies) was the English Pattern put out by Henry,
Derringer, Leman, etc. All were full-stocked rifles with barrels in the 40"
range and of a nominal 53 cal..
Dale Nelson
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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:33:09 -0700 (MST)
From: beaverboy@sofast.net
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: L&C Rifles
Some one mentioned an article in Guns & Ammo about the 1803 HF? I couldn't
find it. Who is the author?
Thanks you,
bb
> The Hawken brothers may have worked at Harper's Ferry but they did not
> come
> up with their short, heavy-barreled rifles until the fur trade era was
> about
> over. Through most of that era the most ordered
> rifles (by the fur companies) was the English Pattern put out by Henry,
> Derringer, Leman, etc. All were full-stocked rifles with barrels in the
> 40"
> range and of a nominal 53 cal..
>
> Dale Nelson
>
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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:47:13 EST
From: ThisOldFox@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: L&C Rifles
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Here are two websites that discuss the rifles.
NPS/Harpers Ferry
http://www.nps.gov/hafe/lewis/photo08-hist.htm
L&C Archives...firearms discussion
http://www.lcarchive.org/firearms.html
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<DIV>Here are two websites that discuss the rifles.</DIV>
<DIV>NPS/Harpers Ferry</DIV>
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Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 13:43:01 -0800
From: "RICK TABOR" <blackshirt75@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: L&C Rifles
The article is in this months issue. Which is their 45th anniversary issue
and comes complete with a commerative decal (suitable for framing).
Rick
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Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 07:00:37 -0800 (PST)
From: Ronald Schrotter <mail4dog@yahoo.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: L&C rifles
The discussion as to whether the '03 Harpers Ferry
rifle went on the grand journey has been interesting,
and if I was an L&C reenactor it would be quite
important. What I feel is more important as a fur
trade reenactor is when did they become available to
the public? Did they appear out west at all? what
about what military units they did get issued to?
Anyone have info on this aspect of a beautiful rifle's
destiny? Dog, Hiv. # 617
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